#twenty one pilots theory

[scraemoo]

I'm reading through explanations of the Odyssey (specifically if Odysseus went to the underworld or not (he didn't)) and then I found something interesting:

It reminded me of Twenty One Pilots and Tyler's phrase "East is up". Twenty One Pilots discusses many mentally challenging experiences which include the discussion of life and death.

My theory is that, if Tyler took inspiration by that belief that the West portrays death, he wanted to portray East as life and something he motivates the listeners to strive and look for.

Addititonally the "up" from "East is up" can indicate a portrayal that we are currently stuck in our own problems, much like a bird in a cage, or an insect caged in a jar. Insects try to crawl up to try and get free. Birds fly up to try to avoid the danger on the grounds and have a greater view from above.

Therefore "East is up" is a symbol of freedom that can only be achieved by following this destination on a journey. May it be alone or in a swarm.

Thanks for listening to my TED talk

[fleetinggabi]

I got recently thrust into knowing about twenty one pilots stuff and as such I seem to have Blessed Unbiased Hot takes (or as I'd like to call them, good opinions), so I have a theory about the Saturday line in Backslide;

So the already established readings are two: A meta commentary on the fan response to the album as a whole and Saturday specifically (the boring reading, Tyler don't come across to me as someone ashamed of his work, plus Saturday fucks) or an actual opinion that Clancy holds in universe due to being forced by Dema to write it.

What I suggest is kind of a bit of both! The callbacks to Blurryface on this video, aka the guy who "cares what you think", as well as the theme of trying to get better and evolve past his mistakes are central to Backslide right? And the whole lore is to a certain degree an abstraction of this depression and the tension within him, the pull to relapse into an insecure person who isnt proud of their work.

So it's a commentary on the refusal to make music which appeals to that expectation (Dema) while fighting back at the actual real expectations that clashed with the release of Saturday without stepping out of the fictional narrative, thus keeping the integrity of his work.

Anyways it's kinda silly and I've written a lot so may be hard to get what I mean but point being Tyler is aware of the Saturday backlash, stands for and defends why it was written, reivindicates it in this song and keeps everything in lore to boot because they're cool 🙏🤓☝️🌄

[blurryface-never-left]

Been really thinkin of what Tyler meant by "Over take your former self". What former self is he talking about? Is he talking about the person he was when he was a blind believer in Dema? Is he referring to the person he was when he started siding with Trench? Is this a subtle hint to how his newfound powers are slowly taking over his sense of self, and turning him power hungry? Maybe draining his morals? He did seem pretty proud of himself for controlling some poor guys body...

[sleepyjim]

hay im . i'm working on a lore doc for all the tøp shit i know if you want to take a look id rly appreciate it :)

it isnt 100% complete yet and itll probably take a little while to finish but im getting a little chunk of research done every day B)

so far ive covered most of the blurryface lore that im aware of, vialism, trench, ned, dmaorg, blurry's twitter account and the main trench trilogy mvs

ive already started on drafts for scaled and icy and some more trench stuff, but please let me know if there's anything i should include/remove or even just spelling/grammar errors etc! id appreciate it lots :)

[blurryfce300]

i could be working on several other things but no here i am making presentations about my theories. i'm normal (clearly lying to himself).

anyways here is my presentation on why i do not think nico and blurryface are the same person. enjoy.

[dirtyoldrocknroll]

Okay but the letters now make so much more sense. After I saw the I am Clancy video, I went to the dma.org again, and look at this. It was here the whole time.

[i-am-a-megalodon]

This is honestly where I think the story is gonna go. Clancy will get drunk with power and almost become what he sought out to destroy, but the Torchbearer's gonna be like NOPE not today

dangerøus bend symbøl

[silverlininghills]

"300 tracks"

you know those hand signals tyler does during the line "300 tracks in my Adidas track jacket"?

i, like probably everyone else, assumed that was him signing 3-0-0 with his hands.

but no. he's signing F-0-0.

consider the ASL signs for F vs 3:

yeah, he's definitely signing F there

so what does F-0-0 mean? well, funny thing about that--you know hexcodes? those 6 digit codes that indicate a specific colour? well, there are also three digit codes as well, where you basically double each number to get the full 6 digit code. wanna guess what #F00 is?

yup, that's pure red babey!!

and, better yet, wanna know what its complementary colour is?

why it's pure cyan of course!!! y'know, like the whole __cla_im00FFFF.jpg = CLAIM CYAN = I AM CLANCY thing.

tyler, you sneaky sneaky bastard.

[mysadblacksoul]

[blurryface-never-left]

Ya know, I think I'm lost on something regarding the lore...

Idk if its been confirmed, but what do the people of Dema worship??

Is it the act of suicide? Is it the Bishops? Is it the Neon? Can you even worship an action? If its the Bishops, is it just the one they work/live under, or is it all of them? If its Neon, do they believe the Neon is sentient, like a deity?

Or is Vialism more of a lifestyle rather than a religion? That suicide is just to be expected in this type of living, and no actual worship of anything takes place? But that begs the question, why would a lifestyle need religious authoritative figures like bishops?

[i-am-a-megalodon]

I noticed that, both in the original Trench map and the updated one, there are clouds seperating DEMA from everything east of it. Perhaps, this is to show that everything east of it is "unknown". Or, at least, that is what the Bishops want their citizens to believe.

tøp clique theory chain lets go

OKAY SO since we're all freaking out about the new stuff, I'd like to start a post chain where we all share our observations on the new stuff! please feel free to add to this post all your theories and ideas, or your current observations about the new stuff we've gotten.

I've mentioned in the discord server, but I noticed the messed up letters in the new letter that @shesacarver recieved in the mail read STILL ALIVE, and also (thanks to the idea @silkysong pointed out about the Red Tape being a metaphor for bureaucracy within dema) that all the red tape on the albums might signify the suppression of information; as it seemed to cover up all dissenting albums and ONLY keons on the BF cover.

other than that, I'm interested to hear what u guys think, so please feel free to add a comment or reblog this post with your insight!

[sleepyjim]

this has probably already been said before but i think the reason nico/the bishop in heavydirtysoul drove the car so horribly is because he couldnt see the yellow lines on the road

(metaphor to how depression/mental illness doesnt see the yellow lines of ur life and can and will be sporadic as fuck)

also could be why he kept getting really close to hitting josh, but never actually hitting him? since his hair was yellow in that mv . maybe the bishops cant touch yellow either

josh is not real josh is not real josh is not real josh is

[twentyonepurrlots]

This is my attempt at reaching the right audience and gaining more tøp moots. I need more clique friends. I wanna see all your goofy art, and tour content. I wanna discuss theories and just connect in this fandom!

Following everyone who likes/reposts this in hopes they’ll continue doing the same! <3

[i-am-a-megalodon]

An elaboration on this theory:

The Bishops have been isolating Clancy/Tyler for a while. Think back to the Livestream Experience. Dan and Sally completely ignore Josh to the point where it seems they don't think he's even there. During the actual performance, the only time we see Tyler and Josh and no one else onstage is during Choker. Every other time, we either see Tyler front and center with Josh in the background alongside multiple musicians and dancers, or we see Tyler completely isolated.

Now, the Bishops are isolating him again, this time painting him as a threat. They failed to paint him as an idol because he escaped their clutches, so they have no choice but to label him as a threat, which he is. They know that strength is in numbers, so they know that isolating him will make him an easy target.

Of course, this won't work because Tyler has Josh. He has the Banditos. He has the Neds. He's not alone.

Also, watering down a conflict into a simple "us vs a singular Big Bad" thing is a common propaganda tactic in order to make ordinary citizens fight for a cause without thinking things through. I don't wanna compare it to any real-life examples, but I think that's what the Bishops are trying to do. They want their citizens to take up arms against this Big Bad called Clancy.

Summary of my thoughts on all the New Stuff after talking about it since I woke up: The new letter is not Clancy at all to me. Sure, a few parts of it SOUND like him, I'll give you that. But what new information have we gained from this letter, really? Not the other pages, not what the Bishops wrote. Just the Clancy letter. Clancy is standing at the edge of the water, thinking about this new power that he now wields. He knows he must cross back over the water and head back to Dema to enact a plan. It is a very watered-down version of the last handwritten letter that we got from Clancy. We know from the Evidence note on the side of the most recent letter that this was a transcription. However, I believe that this is not a one-to-one transcription. They took his words and changed them to suit their own needs. They took out the parts where he was unsure of the power that he now has. His questions, his talks of his experiences- everything that humanizes him is gone, leaving only the sentiment of "I have this power. I'm stronger than them, and I am going to use it." It uses/references old gimmicks- gimmicks that the Bishops would be aware of if they knew of Clancy's letters. The doubling up of the letters to communicate something. "Their compass lies". To me, they are looking back at old letters and trying to copy the style to produce something new. Interestingly enough, it also removes any and all mention of the Banditos. Clancy can outsmart the Bishops. Clancy stands there, at the shore. Clancy's left "embers of inspiration". The difference in the lines "This new power of psychokinesis worked, and I believe it can work again." of this new letter vs. "We both believe that we can use it [psychokinesis] to change the momentum of this war." of the old letter shows this best. The Bishops have removed the Banditos from the narrative entirely, giving the citizens of Dema a singular enemy to fear. They want to point fingers at this singular entity, someone who can harness this new power. They know that people have noticed Clancy. They know that they've read his letters. This is all just more propaganda, created to discredit him. It's a smear campaign.

[suns-blood]

(Me whenever a new song releases) ok but how does this connect to the Car Allegory

[teeentyonepilots]

for everyone that keeps saying that Clancy Tyler hasn’t seen the real Torchbearer Josh since the Levitate music video: you’re forgetting Bandito Josh was literally looking for and found him in the SAI Livestream