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yuarru · 1 month ago

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#doctor who #doctor who fanart #the master #thoschei #spy master #twelfth doctor #twelvespy

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thetorturedlovergirl · 2 months ago

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#12spy always real always canon #he wants to fuck that old man #he’s crying about it ofc #ghost understands me well #doctor who #dr who #dw #the master #sacha dhawan #dhawan!master #spy master #spymaster #spy!master #12spy #twelvespy #thoschei

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thegoldenghost4 · 2 months ago

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butchtwelfthdoctor · 3 months ago

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the short answer is no the long answer is that there are a few possiblilties for how twelvespy would fit into the existing canon. the first is that twelve & the spymaster meet before twelve has experienced the events of world enough & time / the doctor falls, and the art in question that i just reblogged 18979187398 times shows him with his s9 hair, which does work timeline wise, if it was s10 i dont think he'd be able to cope both essesntially living with missy (OH MY GOD. HE IS PRETTY MUCH LIVING WITH MISSY IN S10. BWEEEUHHH..) and also being around the spymaster in any capacity, but yknow its that A Problem Happens in Space show so there could be but NAYWAYS, in that scenario missy has died on the colony ship, killed by simm!master, had her moment as the lumiat, been killed by missy iirc (if we're including audio continuity), and then regenerated into the spymaster, who is so so determined to never be anything like missy, never fall that far, to never (in his view) scrape the ground in front of the doctor, let alone admit he had any measure of attraction to them. spymaster burns down gallifrey because the timelords lied to him & also because he was so mad the doctor really was as fucking special a they always acted like they were. So. bearing this is mind.

would spymaster risk the timeline by telling twelve, if not that he probably dies on that colony ship too, that missy died there, killed by her past self, just as & becuase she was about to go stand with the doctor and probably try to save him - something thatspymaster would find embarrassing at best & disgusting at worst, BUT there's also like. A Lot to unpack there. esp if spy & twelve end up getting along fine (i think they'd complement each other's quietly and then explosivley deranged and angry sides, like thats a dynamic i want to see) - how do they ever discuss that. esp if twelve is with missy & if spymaster has met thirteen already then They Both Know that each other died during the events of the end of s10. how do you possibly talk about. that.

another option is that twelve bumped into the spymaster during one of the times he was disguised & stranded on earth but that doesnt quuiiiitteee work well for longer interactions cos then the doctor knows where he is & how hes disguised sooooo

BUT. the other option and the way funner (read : more messed up) option Is That. missy still dies on the colony ship in The Doctor Falls, from simmmaster shooting her, but that she somehow manages to regenerate, find the doctor again - maybe even save him??? from dying there?? maybe even before she fully regenerates you know? simmaster says 'dont bother trying to regenerate, you got the full blast' so if she thinks that she;s Dying For Real she might try to find the doctor before then. but she dies there and the doctor doesnt. bill & heather can still have their exit, just with less of the 'i cant leave the doctor' stuff. SO twelve Knows that missy dies (can probably infer some details that spy isnt willing to tell him), and now has spymaster with him who is far angrier (some of that directed at the doctor) - he didnt die alone as much but he still has tgat resentment there that make him into who he is, in such stark contrast to missy. the way simmaster reacts to her, the way spymaster decides conciously to never ever be like her ever again, BUT with twelve still there who Knows that missy was trying to be god, that she does have good in her heart like he always thought - OOH and spymaster could have this as some of the resentment towards twelve as well, that he Knows how close missy came to actually being good. and even though hes Not Like That Now he can still feel it insided of him and twelve is still there with his stupid sad eyes and its not like either of them could just say 'ok uhmmm see you round i guess' after that but its not like he was going to lock spymaster in the vault again ESPECIALLY if he saved twelve life even a little bit sdo thered be Tension and like what are they gonna do stay in the tardis???? together?????

ahah. uhm anyways

#thanks for the ask!!#uhm. sorry about the essay i uhhh got side trakced. half an hour later.......#twelvespy #doctor who #jordan tag :D

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clowns0cks · 21 days ago

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hi im sending you an ask about doctor who uhmmmm which thoschei version do you think would be the most catastrophic for them. like disregarding canon interactions. personally i think an immediately post-s9 twelvespy would be disastrous because spymaster Knows what twelve is going to do to missy because he's lived it already & twelve is still upset over losing clara but not remembering why

(from butchtwelfthdoctor its a sideblog i cant send asks from there lol)

OKAY but CONSIDER. twelvespy in the middle of season 10. Twelve seeing missy making progress and then meeting spy and realising it's not gonna work out. OR nineroberts. Nine is fresh out of the time war, and the master has no idea there's gonna be a war. He has no idea of what's gonna happen.

#just a thought #there's surely more but the implications are infinite #doctor who #ask box

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yuarru · 3 months ago

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