#tvl ch9

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tvl adrien in marinette‘s pov is so funny bc he seems almost healthy and well adjusted. he’ll be like hey marinette if you’re upset with me for any reason please don’t try and protect my feelings :) I want to know so I can fix it :) and then u get to HIS pov and he’s doomposting about it. contemplating death for causing her a slight inconvenience

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tvl marinette in her dreams (ch8) vs tvl chat noir’s inner monologue (ch9)

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Now that ladynoir are overrrr will we have adrienette hookup in the next chapter???

im guessing this is the post ch9 mood

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HELLO AND WELCOME TO -> the fundamental misunderstanding tvl ladynoir have leading up to ch9 (if u haven’t caught up to At least ch9 THIS IS UR SIGN TO SCROLL AWAY)

this will be kind of an unpacking and detailing of why ch9 unfolded the way it did. ch9 consists of two main parts -> 1. tvl ladynoir navigating a misunderstanding in their relationship. chat noir handles the situation sort of badly, and you’d think that would cause a big fight, which it almost does, but ladybug shows a Vulnerability that causes them to start Communicating and find a Solution. it ALMOST looks healthy. it ALMOST looks right. but really, it’s a red herring. and it lowers both their guards. to the point that 2. a tiny incident allows long lost misunderstandings (chat noir not knowing ladybug used to be in love with him, ladybug not really realizing he didn’t know) to resurface, and this mixing in with their Messy Current Dynamic makes it all implode, which is how you got tvl chat noir confessing his doomed love

but why DO things explode so bad? why does tvl chat noir handle the knowledge of tvl ladybug’s past love (s5 love square flip) so destructively?

it’s largely because it recontextualized their relationship in a very painful way. all this time he only HUNG ON because he thought ladybug could never love him back, that getting to have sex with her was the Most it could go, the most he could get. he’s upset because if she DID have the ability to love him, why didn’t she? and why didn’t he know before it was too late?

it doesn’t help that she’s been so accommodating of SEVERAL of his wants and needs. BUT he sees all these needs as… emotional. romantic. in nature. whereas SHE has seen them as physical. and sexual.

it’s why they have ‘worked’ so surprisingly well up till the blow up in ch9! it’s why tvl ladybug has been so ‘comfortable’! unfortunately, she THINKS he’s been viewing it through the same sexual lens she has been using

starting w their first conflict that gets explicitly laid out in ch6 -> tvl chat noir being unwilling to sleep with tvl ladybug UNLESS she agrees that it will happen MORE THAN ONCE

tvl chat noir: wants this because he cannot handle the coldness of a One Night Stand. he’s well aware that he WILL get emotionally attached if he sleeps with ladybug and he WILL get very frustrated if it all stops there. he wants it to be indefinite. because INDEFINITE screams commitment. and affection. and some mimicry of love. which is why he was so afraid to bring it up for so long -> he thought she would be against something that would connect them so deeply

tvl ladybug: was MOREEEE than okay to accommodate such an arrangement because she viewed his request as one borne of sexual desire! greed for more pleasure of a lustful nature! mutually beneficial exchange!

this brings us to our next Accommodation. tvl chat noir gets bolder, more presumptuous, and asks to be ROOMMATES bc his previous request was accommodated so easily

which throws her off, obviously, but he manages to make good excuses, scale down his request. realizes that’s too much, that he’s taken an inch and asked for a mile

and this instills The Fear in him again. but while he gets scared off, she decides to recompartmentalize his request as a simple matter of Loneliness. which she relates to! a Specific form of loneliness that only she can really understand as well. so she accepts to a degree! <- have more sleepovers. helping him meet a PHYSICAL need of requiring human companionship. a SOCIAL need to be around someone who’s experienced their very specific double life

this brings them to their next dilemma. tvl chat noir having difficulty sleeping without her. in ch7, he now becomes once more afraid to ask if they can share a bed at night, since he jumped the gun with his previous request, and she also made them two different custom bedrooms for their sleepover… reiterating to him that sharing a bed (like a couple would) is NOT something she would want. he is WELL AWARE that his problem is deeply emotional in nature. he has fallen for her again in debilitating ways. he wants to respect her wishes, and yet a part of his sleep deprived, desperate self cannot help trying to scheme his way into spending more time with her -> this causes him to act strangely during their sexual activities (terrified to come early and get sent back to his room, failing to exhaust her sexually enough to not care whether he sleeps in her bed or not)

however, she surprises him again by SORT OF figuring him out. but AGAIN, she categorizes his problem as a PHYSICAL need. to just sleep next to ANYONE. and that she’s only helping him bc she’s available and willing to. not… because she’s the only one who can

…which he very sadly realizes. but he also realizes that it’s better that she keeps Slightly misunderstanding everything. bc it’s how he’s getting So Much of… everything he’s ever wished. everything he desperately wants from her, that he wouldn’t get if she knew the truth -> he doesn’t just want to have sex. he’s in love with her (again) (electric boogaloo)

and in his eyes. she’s NEVER loved him Like That. so how could she understand? in a selfish way he wants to keep this a secret from her because he’d rather love her in halves than not at all. it’s also selfLESS. bc she gets to have sex without worrying about complicated feelings. and really. it’s a blameless thing. he can’t be blamed for falling in love with the easiest person to fall in love with ever, and he can’t blame her for not falling in love with him. she just isn’t capable of it, right?

yet the way she’s been acting SCREAMS of someone deeply in love. tvl alya very clearly recognizes this, despite not being present for any of their trysts. if anything, she’s only witnessed them interacting in chapter FIVE, which is literally all the way before they even HOOKED UP and started what tvl chat FEARED would get him so attached

we even find out that tvl marinette is TOTALLYYYY ok and chill w tvl chat noir occasionally getting a crush on her. or having feelings. because it’s the perfect way for her to excuse HER ‘occasional’ crush and feelings. as long as he doesn’t tell her! as long as he remembers he needs to squash it down every once in a while! just like she does (tries to)

in ch8, tvl alya accuses marinette of acting like she’s on honeymoon with chat noir. in ch9? she starts acting like his wife

-> chasing him for not being home, nagging him when he stays out late. welcoming him home with a tasty dessert when he arrives. fussing over his health, his rest, his sleep, wanting constant access to him, even when he’s busy or ‘with friends’

-> very obvious constant flirting, aka kissing him outside of a sexual context, like in the beginning of ch9’s last scene, when he alludes to the fact that she’s been kissing him non-sexually Very Often. obviously this has started even before ch9 but it’s clearly gotten worse (‘This is the eighth time you’ve done something like that this week!’)

…and… that’s how tvl ladybug managed to get SO comfortable that she doesn’t realize how STUPID it is to bring up that she used to be in love with him

even though she assumed he knew somewhat, and had let her down easy (I love you, but as a friend.), all those years ago. as time passed her memory shifted slightly. became -> he DEFINITELY knows! he DEFINITELY doesn’t want to be with me anymore! he DEFINITELY understands that us being together is a bad idea! he DEFINITELY doesn’t care that we have sex because that’s all he could want from me now!

and they’re terrifyingly WRONG assumptions to make. cue dramatic breakup in the pouring rain even tho they didn’t date. but at the same time, they were practically married

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idk like some random guy stopping me on the street or something: why do you write smut and sex? are you a filthy whore sinner demon or something? you have a rotted mind?

me: yeah for sure all that. but also because i get to make stuff like this ->

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trick or treat!!! if u even care!!!

here’s ladynoir texting in tvl for you…… if you even care if u even love me….

ask box trick or treat!

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shes so horny for both hahah love that for her!

SO REAL! also here’s the ch9 title ^_^ see u guys in 11-12 hours

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TVL question: if ladybug and chat noir had to go a while without seeing each other whod go insane first

wow interesting question! lets find out ^_^

ch9 is up now guys!! excited to see everyone’s thoughts

also, if you’ve ever wanted to see nsft tvl art, click here

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TVLERS IM DOING A BIT OF TWEAKING W CH9 PLEASE DO FORGIVE ME BC I MIGHT BE LATE I JUST WANT THIS THING TO BE THE BEST IT CAN FOR U GUYS!!

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Operation: Make My Friend Read TVL with No Miraculous Knowledge Other Than My Rants seems to be working. I showed her the part of chapter 9 where Adrien is making his own situation worse and then later I showed her the massage scene and she wanted to read more. HOWEVER, she had work so she couldn’t and I told her I could send her the link if she wanted. She didn’t accept the offer but I’m sure that if I show her more she will. She’s definitely interested so I don’t think it’ll take much more to get her to read it. I’ll keep you updated though

U GOT THIS ANON!! maybe ur friend could benefit from a mlb s5 crash course bc while I do think tvl can be read w no prior knowledge it’s very much linked to canon events and thus even somewhat knowing what goes on slash went on in s5 could be really useful in terms of understanding the characters’ trauma and how that could’ve impacted their actions, predicting and theorizing what happens, etc etc etc? IDK THO ITS ALL UP TO U ANON AND IF UR FRIEND DOES PICK UP TVL I HOPE THEY ENJOY IT!! if they’re confused they can always ask you (or me!) questions hehehe

DEF do keep me updated anon!! always so excited when u guys drop by in my inbox ^_^ miss u already teehee

once again I’m here to remind everyone that tvl ch9 is up!! i heard there was some email issue that happened w ao3 the other day but its fixed now so I’m praying you people found out about the update if ur subscribed!! im gonna reply to ch8 comments soon but that only goes so far bc not everyone who’s subscribed leaves comments etc etc

ALSO plugging the tvl art discord for anyone who hasn’t seen the Secret Forbidden tvl art HEHE -> feel free to post tvl art on there if u want! or like u can send it to me and I’ll post it for you :)

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THERES ONLY 3 CHAPTERS LEFT?! why did I think there were more than 20 ?! NOOO

JDJSKDKSDJ anon baby why DID you think there was gonna be more than 20??? Godspeed anon wow maybe this is a lesson on how we should appreciate the few chapters we have left 😔😔😔 <- is actually so nervous that there are so few chapters remaining

hi guys ch9 of tvl is out now… id love to hear all ur thoughts and theories and questions and comments etc etc etc… also if you want to see tvl art that Can’t Be Posted On Tumblr (wink wink) join this discord

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WOW you already have 30+ unique comments on chapter 8. Does this mean that we will be able to get a new chapter ahead of time? 🥹🥹🥹

HI EVERYONE. thank you all SO SO SO SO much for all the love on tvl ch8 and tvl in general, it’s been so fun watching people catch up like ive said!

wanted to say I FINISHED REPLYING TO ALL THE CH7 COMMENTS YAYYY i mean. well. all the ones that were sent Before i posted ch8 that is. ILL GET TO THE OTHERS AFTER I POST CH9

which will be soon! i want it to build up a little bit more kudos and also get a little more writing done but EH WHATEVER IT SHOULD BE FINE ch9 is all good

either this Wednesday/Friday id say!!!! <- which means either tomorrow or in 2 days. or is that not enough warning. should it be Thursday? IDK LMAOOOO SORRY

im trying to give some friends/regular commenters some more time to get to ch8 but if they don’t it’s okay!! i guess ill go to bed and decide when i wake up ❤️ so if ur reading this and wanna comment on ch8 please do!!! it would def make me lean more towards posting on Wednesday/Thursday rather than Friday to know more people are caught up (esp if u r a familiar face in the comments hehehe i miss all of u always)

sorry if you’ve been missing tvl!! things have been a little busy for me in my personal life recently, i promise i will check on ch9 and make sure she’s like COMPLETELY worth the wait thank you all so so so much for you patience and kindness ❤️ i truly do appreciate it

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TVL CHAPTER 9 SPOILERS to anyone who might be seeing this if this ask ever gets answered avert your eyes i don’t want anyone else to suffer the same fate as me

NOOOOOO I GOT A NOTIFICATION THAT SAID “now that ladynoir is over” before i even KNEW that the new chapter was out 😭😭 so going into chapter 9 i knew they were gonna break up somehow and it Ruined The Vibe 😔 ANYWAY still very good chapter either way as always!!! i wish we could see marinettes pov more i am writhing in agony on the floor

IM SO SORRY MY DEAR ANON… I SERIOUSLY FELT SO GUILTY I WANTED TO THROW UP. that other anon made me snort when I read it but well. I failed to convey that what anon said shouldn’t be taken to seriously. that being said!! I’m glad a lot of u still enjoyed reading it!! sorry once again for Ruining Your Vibe anon. should’ve never happened

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What are ladybug's and chat noir's top breakup up songs?

HI DAGGER. this is so funny bc when i was writing tvl i listened to songs like. 505 by arctic monkeys (AND I CRUMBLE COMPLETELY WHEN YOU CRYYYY) <- a helpful tool for later AND um. haunted by laufey (there’s a reference to this song in ch9) and fragile by laufey and like a lot of songs by laufey also the perfect pair by beabadoobee… idk if tvl chat was listening to any of these songs in particular. but if he were id get it bc well laufey is very Sad Unlucky In Love vibes whilst her music itself has a lot of traditional inspirations! like jazz and bossa nova and a bunch of piano and classical stuff etc etc WHICH I think he’d be really into. it also has a ‘we fucked but im not loved’ vibe which FJSJDJJSSJSJSJSJSJ well. YOU GET IT.

as for tvl ladybug the first thing that popped in my mind was wwe rhea ripley’s theme song demon in your dreams (THIS IS MY BRUTALITYYYY) like um. I just think she would be drowning in very AHHH!!!! loud rock music. grunge. scream music. she would scream into her pillow. occasionally go into some kind of trance like silence. but no matter the case it would be loud angry music. in universe she’s prob listening to some of jagged stone’s more edgy sounds… the angrier songs… in our universe? aside from what I already mentioned. probably fall out boy. i think she would like fall out boy. maybe she’s blasting this ain’t a scene it’s a goddamn arms race rn. who knows

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tvl chapter 10 dropping on my birthday is the best birthday gift ever ❤️❤️❤️ I am very excited :)

AWWWWWW HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO U ANON!!!!!!!!

no ch10 title preview but. i am getting this chapter to you AS FAST AND AS SKILLFULLY AS I CAN