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drop-dead-dropout · 6 months ago
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Fuck's a pro shipper?
We've got a new one boys try not to scare em off /j
Okay but seriously, I'm more than happy to explain. I assume that if you're asking this question you're not aware of the proshipper vs antishipper, uh, "conflict", I guess. So, here is what both of those terms mean, to the best of my descriptive abilities:
Antishipper (often just "anti"): someone who vaguely believes that consuming problematic fiction (usually specifically problematic sexual fiction like lolicon or incest) is either a true reflection of them as a person or a corrupting force that will cause them to play out these desires in real life, onto real people. Basically, if you read age gap, you touch real kids in real life or secretly want to.
Proshipper (sometimes "profic"): someone who does not believe the above, and believes that fiction is not the same as reality because it doesn't harm anyone and therefore people should be left alone as long as you have no reason to believe that they would ever do something like that irl. Often hand in hand with things like anti censorship, kink positive, etc, though being a proshipper does not necessarily mean you have a problematic ship or kink yourself (example: me).
You're probably asking this question because you saw me day in my bio that I am a proshipper. I've tried to stay neutral in this initial description, but obviously I probably didn't manage to be completely unbiased considering that I believe myself to be right (most people do) so if you want to ask further questions after this that's perfectly fine. That being said:
Why am I a proshipper?
So, to understand this, let's first look over the issues within both communities— every group has issues, after all.
What problems do proshippers have?:
- sometimes 4chan assholes co-opt the label "proshipper" just because they're lolicons, even though there's good evidence to suggest that they would do or even have done criminal sexual acts in real life, or that they possess actual csam (child sexual abuse material, a term being used in favor of "cp" these days as porn implies consent). Proshipping has nothing to do with the harmful idea that you should be allowed to exploit and abuse real children.
- there are still many gray areas which proshippers themselves don't agree on. For example: I've seen a bunch of arguments about if writing fanfiction of live action shows or movies changes the equation. The general consensus of proshippers is that writing fanfiction of a character played by a child actor is definitely a more delicate situation and should not be sexual as it's inextricably tied to the image of a real child, but there are others who believe differently.
- I'm genuinely struggling to come up with more of these. Um, sometimes lolicons are really shitty people, like in point 1. This isn't SUPER relevant though cause in reality the overlap between predominantly queer or female proshippers and Reddit incels who just wanna jerk off to a petite anime girl is pretty small, though I'm sure it exists somewhere .
Now, what problems do antis have? (Fair warning, this is gonna sound even more "biased" but I hope my logic is still sound from the outside :p):
- I don't have any statistics on this (haven't exactly been many research papers on fandom drama), so you're going to have to trust me when I say that antis are absolutely NOTORIOUS for extreme harassment campaigns. The first time I was exposed to the word "antishipper", it was attached to a story of a former animator committing suicide because antis had gotten them fired by "exposing" their porn alt on Twitter and they could no longer afford medication for their disability. So, hell of an intro!
- their opinions are, in pretty basic ways, not backed by science or even practical common sense. The human brain can distinguish between fiction and reality after around age four or five
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and people certainly aren't trying to hand nsfw content to children that age so I think it's safe to say that the people who are reading these things won't be "confused" by them or whatever. Also, even just using your brain and talking to these people, you find out most of them project onto the YOUNGER character.
- they claim to support victims but often simply don't. I won't keep dragging threats into the spotlight because I know there are probably antis who aren't as violent, but it's honestly astonishing to me how often they jump straight to wishing death and terrible things on people, and this has included more than once telling a rape victim they hope they get assaulted again just because they're a proshipper. See, a lot of these "taboo" sexual fantasies like age gap and incest actually themselves stem from a traumatic experience, and any therapist will tell you that fiction is a much healthier way to explore intrusive thoughts and urges than more dangerous coping mechanisms like self harm or substance abuse. And when confronted with this, in my experience and many others', antis will simply ignore that fact or say that the therapist is some sort of evil enabler.
-the general cognitive dissonance of believing an incest fanfiction will make you "forget" that incest is bad vs being fine with horror movies and slashers speaks to a deeper and honestly kind of worrying anti-sex mindset. I'm not sure I'm qualified to tackle this particular topic, but I definitely agree that it's a thing; after all, I have no idea how else those two things could coexist.
Anyways, I'd like to close this off by saying not everyone is as crazy opinionated as I am, I'm just autistic and like talking lol. A lot of people who id as proshippers just have a sort of minding their own business, ship-and-let-ship mentality, and a lot of antis are unfortunately just teenagers who were told proshipper = evil pedophile groomer and thus they put "proship dni" in their bios just cause they don't know and don't really care what it means. It is undeniable that many antis are kids themselves, and that does worry me, because fandom drama (especially Twitter fandom drama) is dangerous and vitriolic and also they're putting extremely serious threats on their digital footprints at the tender age of 14! But whatever, I'm not their parents, that's just my worry. Sorry for rambling this long lol, I wouldn't blame you if you dropped out halfway through but this is basically my summary of this whole thing. Do with this knowledge what you will! Or, you know, don't! I'm not a cop!
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sicklyseraphnsuch · 2 months ago
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"We're gonna pull the greatest prank on Earth C."
Everyone turns to Egbert, a question in their eyes on the tip of their tongues. Egbert is wearing pants today but that's not always indicative of Egbert's preferred gender. As if sensing their confusion, Egbert grins widely.
"Hey guys, it's ya gurl, June here, with another behind the scenes video-" There's a flash of light and the aged copy of Colonel Sassacre's tome appears in her hands. "-we're about to push our prankster gambit through the roof."
"You keep saying that, as if saying it twice will explain anything," Jade points out.
"Well, I was thinking..."
"A dangerous endeavor for a rank amateur like yourself." Terezi cackles.
"Hush, grown ups are talking." June flaps a hand towards her, causing a burst of breeze. "Guys, we're gods."
"An astute observation," Rose says wryly.
"We're off to a great start," Dirk adds.
"Yeeeeeeees, but gods are like boom thunder lightning pchoooo floods and famine. They're like big freaking deals with fifty thousand stories. We're nothing like that!"
"Are you saying we should be?" Dave fakes a gasp. "Bug, is this the start of your villain arc?"
"Of course not, don't be an idiot, Dave! I'm just saying... what if people you know... Like right now, we have one actual story - our story - the way we lived, blah blah bluh. But so I was talking to Callie and they brought up a really good point about interpretations of characters and sure there's a singular canon characterization but reading is translation - it was a whole thing. The point-"
"So you do have one?" Terezi jeers.
"The point! If we want to not get freakin' mobbed by all of future Earth C-ians? C-ese? Whatever, then we gotta be a little more... mysterious. We gotta make them think they know us, but they really don't. We gotta have fifty thousand fan-interpretations. So when we walk down the street, we won't be recognized!"
"What if we want the recognition?" Jane cuts in. "We're gods now, as you said, and Earth C is our world to shape and rule as we see fit!"
"Woah, Janey..." Roxy sighs.
"Well, it's true."
"I wouldn't mind a time in the spotlight, myself..." Jake murmurs.
"With all due respect," Rose says to Jane. "We're sixteen going on seventeen. Of course, we want recognition - attention - perhaps even worship. But there's no reason we can't gain that masquerading as mortals. I'm sure a young woman of your caliber would be up to such a task." She crosses her arms and tilts her head up. "Not to put too fine a point on it but would gaining fame through godhood really satisfy you? Are you not a woman who like things a little hard, maybe even rough?"
"I love the way you make everything sound so gay," June jumps in. "But can we not hit on my ectomom in front her ectokid?"
"Seconded," Jade says, with ears flat against her head.
Jane puffs up. "Are you really trying to goad me into joining this-"
"It's a prank! Janey, I thought you looooooove pranks!" Roxy chimes in, cutting off Jane before she could really get going.
Dirk frowns, catching Rose's eye. "You seem really into this... Did you See something?"
"Are you saying I can't enjoy the occasional jape or jest, father dear?"
Dirk grimaces with his whole body. "Woah. How about no - never -"
"I'm down," Dave says, because Rose smells blood in the water and she's ready to tear Bro a new one. You just don't set Rose loose on an unsuspecting Bro. It's like part of the Bro-code.
"What? Seriously, Dave?" Karkat shouts.
"C'mon dude, like what's even the harm if we let her pull off this prank?"
"I - Sure! I fucking guess! Apart from we're trusting her to do anything right-"
"Hey!" June yells.
"Check it - she's basically throwing down a smokescreen all ninja style, confusing enemies and vanishing into the night. That's pretty dope."
"Whatever! Fine, I said it's fine! I just wanna go through the damn door before we fucking jinx ourselves again."
"As much as it pains me to admit, Baja Blast has a good idea," Terezi says as if each word was a pulled tooth from her mouth.
"I'm sorry, did you say something?" June smirks. "I couldn't hear you, way up here. Mind saying that again? Louder this time so everyone can hear?"
"Oh June-buggy, I hope you die and I hope I'm there." Terezi licks her teeth.
"If Rose is championing June's cause, then I trust her," Kanaya adds.
"We can live like superheroes!" Jake claps his hands, wrapping his head around the idea. "We'll have secret alternate identities while we go about our mild-mannered lives! That's sporting good fun!"
Dirk and Jane share a look. Despite his shades, they somehow manage to communicate via expression alone. After many seconds of silence, Jane sighs and shrugs, which in turn causes Dirk to nod slightly.
"It does sound... fun..." Jane offers a shy grin. "The mischief we could accomplish with such a trick! I can only imagine."
Dirk turns to June. "So how are we doing this? How are we making this happen?"
June cheers. "I'm so glad you asked! Because I'm gonna need your help!"
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ncrosha · 3 months ago
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i'll probably do a big ole meta post down the line, but suffice to say josh has some... complicated feelings about the older x-men.
the problem is he learned the hard way that they are not parents. they're really barely even teachers. they're more veterans trying to give the next generation some vague sense of comfort and normalcy. they don't really possess the nurturing needed to help their students through trauma, and really, every day their students are still alive is a enormous win for them.
but josh was a teenager. and josh was often the only healer, which meant he was essentially a wartime medic before he could even drive. they hauled him out of bed and into the infirmary and put people's lives in his hands, which gave him a huge complex. especially when he either could not save someone, or was put into a position where he was also injured and had to mend himself just enough to survive but heal the other party fully so they could keep fighting.
it's a fucked up situation for a teenager to be in.
worse still, his powers then develop into something more useful to them just when their backs are against the wall. and josh doesn't get a say in what happens next, he's not a student he's a soldier and that means there's even less nuturing. less comfort. less guidance. just orders, orders that heap on more trauma.
the worst part is he understands the necessity of it... but that doesn't stop the resentment. his childhood, his innocence, his choice to just be a healer was ripped away from him. and then his healing powers were too, and he ran away. no one came looking for him. seeming to cement to him that his worth was in whether he was gold or not.
josh admits later on that he developed a pretty severe complex about his use to people and his healing powers. one that he seems to have overcome with his time with xorn, but still one that haunted him badly enough to send him into hiding when he encountered something he couldn't fix. and being buried was really the final straw for him.
he doesn't trust the x-men. he's seen too much of their dark side to ever allow himself to trust them, but he understands that dark side needs to exist. he just resents that he was pulled into it, time and time again, and then was left with no one to talk to about these feelings. he said over and over he didn't want to kill people or use his powers to cause harm and he was anyway.
but what right does he have to be angry when he knows full well that krakoa wouldn't be here if he didn't do what he did?
( granted, logan stabbing marrow in front of him and giving him 'hey better move quick or she's gonna die / i'm gonna murder your boss so you gotta pick' gave him extra 'why the fuck are you like this' feelings like imagine this scuttling towards you with murder in his eyes. traumatizing )
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its hard to realize your heroes are fallible and human. and its harder still when you know they can be more than that, you just saw their worst side over and over and over again. there's no easy reset that fixes that.
but he's not a student anymore. they're not his teachers. so there's the chance to know them when there's no power imbalance happening. he's also under no obligation to follow their orders if he doesn't want to, because he - well he knows they sure as shit can't hurt him more than he can hurt them.
he's also just really desperate to have connections, to have someone at his back because he's been alone for so damn long. josh keeps drifting from team to team, knowing it will end badly for him but staying all the same. he's a people person, he gets lonely, and he's dealing with so fucking much and no one in his peer group understands because they have not done half of the shit that he has.
tl;dr in any thread with an older xman, josh will have his back up and will be wary as hell. but he's also just as run down and cynical as they are now, so he'd just really like a drinking buddy.
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spidori · 11 months ago
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WAIT! WaitWaitWaitWaitWait!
It's a cult based around protecting children? Like specifically children? And has iconography which can be recognized as Batman or Bruce but only if you're really looking for it, and possibly a genius like Tim? Am I getting that right?
Because if I am, you know who is definitely a card-carrying member of said cult? Red Hood. Because you cannot tell me with a straight face that the vigilante who rolled into crime Alley and managed to make kids off limits wouldn't be the type of person this group would want to at least reach out to.
And sure, Hood would absolutely do his due diligence, dig through any information his contacts can get a hold of, and try to find the catch. But after a couple of months go by and he's only found evidence that these people are actually helping from the shadows, maybe he starts considering actually meeting them.
He probably won't join or anything, but it never hurts to have more contacts. And hey if these guys are even half as legit as they seem, then they're all gonna be on the same side most of the time whether he's part of their club or not.
But then he goes to a meeting as a possible recruit. (Just to be clear, this is all happening years before Batman gets lost in the time stream, I'm imagining early Hood, like before he's even made it onto the Bat's radar as more than another new wannabe local crime boss). Hood expects, ya know, a cult, because that's how it was described to him. Robes. Flickering candles. Arcane rituals and prayers.
He gets the robes, with every single person present dressed seemingly at random in solid black, white, or grey. And kinda the candles, but they were only there to provide light since the abandoned warehouse didn't have power, so he doesn't really feel like it counts. Then, after a short prayer of "may the light be strong enough to reach through the walls abusers hide behind, the shadow deep enough to hide those they would abuse, and may the place they meet be the threshold to escape and safety," the whole meeting seems to become a mix of mutual aid and grief support group.
People break out into packs, some even pulling casserole dishes and baked goods out from under their robes. Jason is only a little disappointed to realize that the food is a lot more prevalent in the couple of groups talking about grieving (with a lot more of the grey robes, he notes) than in the mutual support planning he'd been led over to.
He can't really be mad though. It's not like he'd be able to eat anything with his helmet on anyway.
More importantly, by the end of the cult meeting he was thoroughly impressed by the group. The group passed the tests and checks Jason had drilled into his memory in his training before. They were still a cult in the classic sense of worshipping some secret gods, having a couple of strange rituals, and the secrecy. But Jason can definitely see some ways he could work with them.
So he goes to a few more meetings. He learns a lot from them about setting up a robust mutual aid organization, and applies a lot of it to his growing gang; they both have to deal with the powers that be trying to break them up the same way, so a lot of the same things apply. Eventually he trusts the cult members enough to call them when one of his raids on a rival gang leads to him busting into a room full of child slaves while checking the basement for any remaining members of the gang.
It's that call, more than anything else, which leads to him being offered initiation into the rights of the cult.
And fuck, but he kinda wants to join.
They're good folk! Mostly Crime Alley natives too; Jason can tell, even without his training from before, Crime Alley natives know their own. He can trust these people. So fuck it, why not?
The initiation itself is pretty basic. There's a ceremonial swearing of oaths. To protect the vulnerable, especially children. To never intentionally put them in harms way. To call out or punish those who do. Really it's what Jason aims to do as Red Hood already.
Then comes a blood oath, with each member adding a small amount of blood to a bowl on the altar beneath the print of a tapestry said to depict their Light and Shadow (who reminded Jason ironically of the Bat, given how said Bat went against the cult's teachings with his Robins, but c'est la vis). They even sterilized the knife between each member, Jason was impressed! The glow effect when he added his own blood to the bowl last as the new initiate was a bit cheesy, but he could see how it would leave an impact on the type of person who hadn't seen a Lazarus Pit, aka most even semi normal folk.
After the ceremony, it's business as usual for the rest of the meeting. Or it was until the door slammed open to reveal another cult member, this one in a mostly black robe, but with a white star on the point of their hood.
It only takes him a few seconds to guess that the special robe meant someone important. All the other cult members bowing, curtsying, or kneeling was a good clue. Something in him kept him standing rigid though, and not out of any pride or issue with bowing to someone.
No.
Jason was all too familiar with this tensing and stiffening of his muscles. With the cold sweat and taste of dirt and coffin wood heavy on his tongue. With the way his lungs felt like they couldn't get enough air. Some part of him was terrified, verging on triggering an all out panic attack, at the mere presence of this stranger walking through the door and up to him.
Then, as suddenly as the terror welled up, it just as quickly dissipated as the figure's slender hand moved from his chest to his arm and she(?) began to bodily drag him out of the room.
"Sorry for scaring you" she said, and it was definitely either a she or at least someone partially female presenting judging by the voice, as soon as she'd pulled him into a private room. "I thought you might be trying to steal my group for your own. Although I don't think I could even be that mad if you had been, it looks like you haven't had a proper meal in ages!"
Ok... That last part felt out of place. "What, did you think I was going to try to drink the blood after the ritual?"
"Hah! Good one, but it's obvious you're not that type of dead" She said. "Trust me, I know vampires, and wannabe vampires, and you're clearly not either of those" she continued seemingly uncaring about the gun Jason had pointed at her head.
"Want to unpack what you mean by calling me dead before I take it the obvious way, as a threat to make me dead, and make you dead first?"
"Hey! Chill! Chill! I know you're probably really hangry, but c'mon dude! I'm just saying that you've died."
The FUCK!?!? "Who are you and how did you know that?!"
"My name is Elle." The woman said, pulling down her hood to reveal the face of a young woman with white hair with a black streak, mirroring Jason's own under his helmet. "And dead recognizes dead dude. Plus, you triggered one of the safety measures I set up to warn me about potential threats trying to sneak in when you put your Ecto into the bowl. Didn't you notice it glow?"
"Ecto?"
"The green stuff that runs through your veins? The stuff pretty much every single ghost or undead except vampires- which we've already established you're not- and some extremely rare exceptions called halfas have?"
"Hate to disappoint such a pretty girl, especially after I just joined your cult, but I have normal, red, blood, see?" Jason said, holding up his palm to show the cut scabbing over there.
He wasn't sure what he expected the woman's- Elle's, he supposes- response to be, he sure hadn't been able to predict a single turn of this conversation so far, but even then her suddenly vibrating with excitement was enough to throw him even more off balance. So off balance that he just stared as she pulled out a positively ancient flip phone, dialed a number, and, as soon as the other end picked up, full force yelled into the receiver "New Halfa just dropped, cuz! And he's cute too! Get your ass over here! And bring some Ecto! The guy feels like if he tried to survive on nothing but ambient since his death."
And I'm going to stop here. Mostly because I have an early morning and long day of travel tomorrow. I have more ideas, but anyone is absolutely welcome to run with this if it sparks anything in your brain. I absolutely love bouncing ideas back and forth and continuing to build.
Prompt 171
Danny would like everyone to know it was a complete accident. Look, normally he was really good at not altering the timeline! He was! 
But the dude was definitely not in the right Time, and he had to get his trust which took so long, like damn he thought he had anxiety. Seriously though, kevlar in the 1700s? Yeah that wasn’t right, and Peepaw always complained about the messes that the speedsters caused, so he was trying to prevent a mess by tugging the dude away and helping him out. 
Falling in love maybe a little, was not in the plan. But honestly the man had a worse sense of self preservation than he did as a teen and was also straight up adorable, in a wet cat  who could kill you sort of way. 
So maybe he helped the dude grab a child that was going to be drowned. It wasn’t like anyone else saw them! Even if similar situations might’ve happened a few different times. 
Still, no one saw them! 
So why is there now a small cult who worships the Shadowed one and Radiant one, aka his companion (who would not give his name save for B, which, fair, probably didn’t want to accidentally wreck the timeline either) and well, him?! At least they worship them as guardians of children, but uh. Should he maybe, perhaps, fix this…? 
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batmanisagatewaydrug · 2 years ago
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One of my friends is going to give their brothers (cis, 10 and 13, multi-gender attracted) the Talk and isn't sure where to start. Do you know any resources or guides to help them make sure they hit the highlights?
hi anon,
first off, tell your friend that a stranger on the internet is stoked that they're taking the initiative to have this conversation with their brothers! that's awesome, and I hope it will lay the groundwork for them to be a safe person for their brothers to talk to as they continue to grow up and change.
for a well-rounded first conversation (which I think we can safely assume will not be either boy's first introduction to sexuality, especially the 13 year old), I would recommend your friend consults the circles of sexuality first developed by Dennis Dailey:
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we use a similar model to this in Our Whole Lives, where I teach kiddos in a similar age range to your friend's brothers. it covers a lot of territory, is easy to adjust for any age, and can be a great way to let the kids steer the conversations by bringing up the things that may feel most pertinent or troubling to them. the five outer circles basically break down as such:
sexuality identity: honestly maybe not the most precise name for this circle, since it also includes things like personal expression and sense of gender that are sometimes completely detached from sexuality; editing this one to just be "identity" can work just fine. regardless, I've found kids grasp this one pretty easily, and it can be a great starting point to the others. talk to the boys about who they like, how they like to dress, what their sense of boy-ness feels like, how those pieces interact or could be different, etc.
sexual health and reproduction: all kinds of health and safety fall here! later is could entail things like frank discussions of safer sex, but right now we can talk about things like bodily changes brought on by puberty (what have they noticed? how do they feel about it? what do they like about puberty, and what feels difficult?), everyday precautions such a protective gear if they play sports, and how to safely remove pubic hair if they choose to do so.
sexualization: this one's IMPORTANT. this is where we talk to kids about how sexuality and peer pressure can be harmful such as objectifying advertisements, people making you feel uncomfortable by talking about your body in ways that feel bad, or pestering you to send nudes or look at other images that may make you feel uncomfortable. this is also an important place to talk about consent and good ways to express interest in people without making them feel unsafe.
sensuality: what helps the kids feel nice? responses I've heard range from dancing, nice-smelling shampoos, hugging a pet, snuggling with a blanket or stuffed animal, eating good food, getting hugged by parents, and playing a favorite sport. this can also be a good spot to talk about how masturbation is normal, healthy, harmless, and a great way to safely explore one's sexuality in private!
intimacy: a good place to end, because this whole conversation about sexuality is a powerful act of intimacy! this is a great way to start a convo about trust and safety, and how sex is fine and rad but people with whom you want to be sexual deserve to be treated well and with care. also a great space to talk about how intimacy and closeness IS NOT just for romantic/sexual partners, which I think is really important for young boys to hear especially! these little dudes should know that they deserve to have close friendships with people who make them feel good and support them and let them talk about their feelings.
your friend is probably gonna miss some stuff and not get everything 100% right, and that's okay! being available as a non-judgmental resource who's willing to admit you don't know everything and learn along with the people you want to teach is more important than being infallible!!
also for your friend, might I recommend checking out Peggy Orenstein's book Boys & Sex? it's a pretty good look into the sexual cultural a lot of teens and young adults are currently swimming in, and may be very helpful for someone trying to help two young boys navigate it.
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animeyanderelover · 4 years ago
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Hello there! Hope you're doing well on your holiday! This is my first time requesting oof. Could I request how Sebastian, Ash, Prince Soma and Hannah react to their darling outright asking them why they are genuinely interested in them. Darling is confused and believes they're not that interesting to even bring the attention of people like them. They're pretty closed off from others and was at first weary of the intentions they had and just finally just asked to get a firm answer. Thank you! Love your writing!
I enjoyed my holidays whilst they lasted, sadly they’re over now and I have to wait about 3 months until summer break😣.
Tw: Yandere themes, unhealthy mindset, unhealthy relationship, possessiveness, obsessiveness, paranoia, delusions, kidnapping, manipulation, sabotage, isolation, emotional guilt-tripping, self-harm
Why do you like me?
Sebastian Michaelis
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🐈‍⬛He pretty much openly courts you by now, after his time observing you for a bit, finding out what his darling likes and what’s not, how he can get closer to his darling without any problems. Sebastian has every intention to pamper you if you don’t throw a tantrum in which case he has to be more strict on you. And the fact that you are closed off from others is such a delightful thing to witness. It makes the whole situation a lot more easier, he doesn’t have to worry too much about you being interested in someone else or dedicating your time to someone else. I personally believe every demon in Black Butler is isolating due to their posssessiveness.
🐈‍⬛He was prepared for this question of yours, he sensed your suspicions since quite some time and why wouldn’t you? Sebastian is a mysterious man for everyone. On the one hand he is charming and handsome and can do anything, on the other hand there is this mischievous and evil vibe around him that tells you to stay away. It is also a bit unnerving how he seems to know everything about you, from your favorite flowers down to your favorite color.
🐈‍⬛Sebastian is known for keeping his calm and his charm and since he expected you to ask him this sooner or later, he already had much time to prepare an answer, even though he would have been great in answering you that question even if he wouldn’t have known about this. He would give you a charming smile and be very smug about this question of yours, somewhat teasing you by asking if it shouldn’t be obvious by now. He’s trying to court you, kitten. He would find enjoyment if you would look baffled whilst also being fluttered by this answer of his, which might just earn you more playful teasing mixed with fluttering comments why he likes you.
Hannah Annafellows
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🟣Similar to Sebastian, she would start expressing her interest openly to you after a while, even though she would even before that try to be a close friends with you. From all the demons in this Anime, I would say Hannah is one of the worse types to have, it’s either her or the triplets Timber, Thompson and Canterbury. She uses isolation and letting people disappear from your life as a way to draw you closer to her and trust her more. So whilst she will be definitely pleasant upon discovering that her darling is a loner, she will also have to think of another ways to make them trust her more since making important people for them disappear isn’t too possible except family which Hannah doesn’t want to kill as long as they don’t do something to annoy her. She has after all only a true place for her darling in her heart.
🟣She just senses how much you are weary of her, especially in the beginning. You have surely your reasons, after all she is from the Trancy manor and there are certain rumors about this place. Next to that she is a demon and whilst being talented in anything can amaze people, it can also scare them. And here as well the fact that she knows so much, too much about you is unnerving as well. Trying to distance yourself wouldn’t really work though, it’s as good as impossible to escape a demon and given your mistrust, Hannah will also start intensifying her strategies to make you cling onto her more.
🟣Different from Sebastian she relies a lot on guilt-tripping to persuade her darling into many things. So there is a chance she will pretend to be a bit hurt by this question, asking how you couldn’t notice. She uses this question as a chance for being so distrusting of her. She will act all saddened and upset, maybe even she’s the one or another tear. This will make you feel most likely bad for her. Secondary to that she will also tell you in a mellow and sincere voice what she likes about you, using it as a way that will hopefully make you fall for her.
Prince Soma
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🍛Try to explain to him that you don’t feel the way he does and you’ll quickly discover that his lovesick brain will twist everything you say into what he wants to hear. Soma is together with Finny heavily delusional to the point where about nothing can convince him that you don’t feel the same. For that it is not even courting what he does, it is already acting like you and him are already a couple and will marry later on (which will happen in his mind anyways). Whilst Soma is someone who gets easily jealous, he also doesn’t want you to be alone. He means, you aren’t. You have him. But at the very least Ciel and Agni will become people you will often interact with.
🍛Privacy is gone the moment he fell for you and his interest is painfully visible for everyone. He starts spoiling you, giving you a lot of affection and is everywhere you are all over you. It’s highly uncomfortable given the fact that you don’t even like him and it’s only thanks to Agni that he doesn’t completely monopolies your time and makes you move in with him. But Agni is also loyal to his prince and for that will at least try to talk you into giving Soma a chance. That boy is too oblivious to realize that you are hesitant around him, he’ll just brush it off as shyness.
🍛He is confused, to say the very least. He thought you were just as much in love with him as he is with you. Why would you even ask him this? And try to guess what he will interpret it as, with that sense mind of his. Your prince will start thinking that he didn’t show you enough affection, that he didn’t make his love clear enough yet. It causes him to give you a more childish reaction, suddenly suffocating you in a really tight hug and whining. He’s upset with himself, thinking it’s his fault for making you think that way. Oh well, then he’ll have to show you even more.
Ash Landers
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▫️I’m so sorry to say this, but Ash needs not a lot of time to kidnap you, the longest would be a week in which he would act at first more as a secret guardian for you. I mentioned it a lot of times before, but Ash is a lot more hesitant with giving you affection, even though he would honestly die to be able to. You’re perfection in his eyes and he does not think that he deserves you or to be honored enough to touch you. You’re gonna be isolated anyways the moment he takes you, but he would definitely kidnap you even faster when noticing how you seem to avoid people. You’re literally begging him to take you away from the filth. And who is he to neglect you that wish? He will take you and afterwards treat you like a royalty.
▫️Keep with this man always one thing in mind, he wavers very easily, too easily when it comes to you. It’s understandable that you would throw tantrums, but for the love of god, please calm down. He would never show you, but behind the scenes, Ash punishes himself heavily whenever you seem upset with him. He has an obsessive fixation on keeping you happy and safe and by acting that way, showing him how unhappy you are plus the incredibly distant acting due to not trusting him (who wouldn’t when being kidnapped?), you’ll throw him into a whirlwind of dreadful fear and shame and a good piece of paranoia.
▫️He will react emotionally and affected. Ash’s goal is it to show you how special and pure you are, to make it clear to you that you deserve more than the best. He feels like he did pretty much everything wrong if you ask him still what he sees in you, though I’m sure he held already very long speeches about why he had to take you. But it’s still understandable why you would ask. You probably thought that there were far more pure people than you in this town. It’s not the worst reaction you got to see from him though, there were far more unnerving ones. He will very likely burst out in tears since someone like you shouldn’t ask this. Will beg for forgiveness to not be more clear about it and afterwards he will start rambling in a maniac way about why you’re perfect.
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fangaminghell · 2 years ago
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Okay, this is a bit weird since the Rejuv trio had already met Hauyne and you've already sent an ask about how Orion would react to the reborn trio... So I'll spice it up a bit!
The reborn trio's thoughts on Hauyne? And also, the Rejuv trio's thoughts on Orion?
Ooooh, yeah that's interesting. Hmmmmm
Well to get the easiest out of the way.
Leo, pointing at Hauyne: Who is this sassy lost child.
This was gonna be Blair, but Leo is funnier.
On a more serious note, with both Suraya and Leo being aura users ( and having psychic powers), I feel they could easily sense the vast potential and power that Hauyne has. If this was during the reborn arc, Leo would be pretty intimidated while Suraya is more curious than anything. If this was following the timeline with the reborn trio being older......it's still the same but Leo is much more calmer than he would be during the reborn arc. He'll leave the testing and whatnot to Suraya.
Blair during the reborn arc would be more cautious around Hauyne. Partly because, in xyr eyes, she's a child, and you know that Blair has a soft spot for children( even if Hauyne is a teen). The other half of Blair would be cautious because xe see Hauyne as a potential threat, especially if xe notice how Suraya and Leo react to her. Basically, xe are keeping an eye on her. Older Blair would still keep an eye on her but not to the degree of xyr reborn self. Xe are much more laxed compared to how xe were then, and xe trust Suraya and Leo to take care of themselves and Hauyne. Still keeping a watchful eye, just in case. Also generally a bit more friendly here.
Oh, and Blair would still be annoyed with the " is this your long lost cousin" joke lol
Now the rejuv trio thoughts on Orion.
Well, for one, they all would think they're more approachable ( sorry Hauyne!). Imani is quick to chatter, being the most talkative of the trio. For both Reborn! Orion and Future! Orion, she would be ask soooo many questions about their battling style, maybe ask for a battle if she's really excited ( she probably gets swept by Future! Orion lol. Not sure about Reborn! Orion though)
Flynn is still very shy, but is also just as curious as Imani, since she wants to improvise her battling skills. Not as confident as Imani though, so Imani has to pull her in for questions. I think you said something before about Orion and Flynn having some similarities but I can't seem to remember what. But I'm sure they would bond over them!
Orion 🤝 Arrow: cool older siblings
I feel like they would bond fairly quickly, especially over mechanics and motorcycles. That, and the fact that the two would be the oldest of the group here( especially with Future! Orion). Arrow would have a great deal of respect for Orion, especially when it comes to Hauyne and wanting to protect her. Maybe they would talk to them about their insecurities on suddenly being an older sibling to Imani and Flynn. Sibling to sibling.
Now, if Hauyne and Orion tell these groups about the whole ' hey I'm from a different reality where this is a game,' I don't think any of them would take it well ( i'll be honest, Imani's reaction and conclusion was much nicer compared to what everyone else's would be, especially Blair), but I do think, once given context and time to think, they all can agree that the two never meant any harm, and don't think of these worlds a game( I mean. It kinda is, but not in this context).
So yeah, that's how I think each group would react to the other. Thanks for the ask!
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daugterofthemoon · 11 months ago
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Hi, hey, hello. Welcome to the essay(?) where I pick apart this blogger-response which nobody asked for. I have a lot to say about this.
Let's set the record straight, nobody in this community wants drama, don't even go there. No one is accusing you of anything yet, so don't get so defensive. They're just being concerned and they're vocal about it. Nothing more. Nothing less.
However I thought it was obvious that other's would feel uneasy about the chance of being scammed in this community, especially because of manifestation-tumblr's history with scammers in the past.
This is just to make sure you understand where @gorgeouslypink's and @/automaticladyphilosopher's concerns are coming from, since it's quite obvious in your response that you don't understand their perspective, at all. You provided no validation of how they might've felt about this. You immediately got defensive, and to me this doesn't say "I understand where you're coming from". Neither does it say "I am telling the whole truth". This won't make anyone feel "safe" about soya's coaching, whatsoever.
"not everyone who charges money is a scammer!" You're right! However, when you're being defensive about this matter, it only justifies their suspicion of it being a scam.
Why? Because being immediately defensive is a passive aggressive response in every situation, and it automatically means "I'm caught doing something I shouldn't be doing". I know this for sure, because I get passive aggressive all the time whenever I have to come up with a backstory for why I didn't do something I definitely did.
Kira, a past blogger, promoted entering the void for people who paid them and as it turns out; that was a big, fat scam. What's the bottomline in this section? Being scammed is uncool, and it betrays trust they had to the scammer. In this day and age on tumblr we have to be cautious of who we place our trust in, sadly. That's just how this community has transformed itself into. Nobody want's to have a Kira 2.0.
"If I just wanted to scam people then Why would I fake to be someone else ?" Because you wouldn't want to be cancelled on your main account.
"Being scammed is uncool, and it betrays trust they had to the scammer." - Notice how I didn't write "the promoter"? Because you as the promoter isn't directly scamming anyone. In this case it would be your friend, soya.
Risking being caught scamming on your main account would mean you'd lose everyone's trust, have to deactivate and leave tumblr. My common sense is telling me that faking being someone else will help you dodge that bullet. It's pretty stupid to fake being someone else, because people will find out if you did, sooner or later.
"I can just tell everyone that I will give u coaching, that way I could have gained much profit because ofc people are gonna believe me not someone I'm mentioning to take coaching from." As stated above, no. No, you could not. And hopefully you would not, because that would also be quite stupid. Hypothetically, yes, you'd profit, but at what cost? Your followers trust would be out of the window as soon as you get called out for scamming. Everyone don't believe you less when you promote your own, nor if you promote someone else's, coaching. Your followers believe you and the one you're promoting, because they trust in your judge of character. They trust that you won't promote something to harm us in any way. I thought this was common sense to think? When you have a good reputation you have everyone's trust, until that trust is broken.
This is also common sense, and it is obvious common sense was, in fact, definitely not here.
"My blog isn't a ad for her coaching services for God sake. [...] everyone wanted me to post them and so I did . I post them on my blog with her permission, to motivate my followers ! What's wrong in it ?" You can argument all you want about this, but that does not change the fact that you're indirectly promoting it. You also hype up her coaching, which is a form of promoting her services. If it's not proming her coaching, then it sure looks like one, since that seem to be the only thing you post on your blog. Why do I say this? Because you have no posts about anything else other than just success from her coaching (which btw is also promoting her coaching). No posts about law of assumption, no motivation for your followers, no posts interracting with your anons that aren't about soya's coaching.
"And why would she charg only $24? She could have charged $100-$300 [...] none of them came and told everyone that soya scammed my money, don't take her coaching ? WHY ?" Okay, "funny" (read: ironic) story about that. So back in November I actually contacted soya for her void coaching. I then recieved information that (and I quote) "the amount has changed" to $80. Not $24, so don't come here asking why she would charge $24 when she doesn't. Not $100 either for that matter, but still quite a lot more money than you originally promoted on your blog. She did tell me she could lower the amount, and that she would ask you to change the amount on your blog as well. However I can't see you've posted any updates of her coaching price on your blog. Not even now, January 3rd, and it's already been soon 2 months. I also thought common sense was to update everyone about the new price of your friend's coaching as well. I guess some people really do lack common sense.
This is actually embarrassing to admit, but I actually paid for her services november 16th. The full price of $80, at that.. On desember 19th I told her I felt discouraged, because nothing she provided had worked for me, so she offered to enter the void for me. She told me she normally refused to do this when someone asked, and therefore she didn't offer to do it for anyone either, but because of my circumstances she wanted to. And low and behold, she charged $300 for that. In other words, she has, in fact, charged $300 for her services, so your attempt of guilt tripping (yes, guilt-tripping, because you're making people feel guilty for thinking it's too much money for that kind of service. And do remember, if this wasn't your intention; this is just how i perceived it, and you can easily debunk this in a grown up matter.) everyone into thinking that "it could've been worse" is pretty much failing.
I couldn't afford it, as I only could use $50 at the time. We agreed upon the price of $70 and she then allegedly entered a couple days later. Or, I assume she did. She warned me that there was no guarantee, so I knew what I was getting myself into and that there was a chance it wouldn't work. And it didn't work either. Now I am frustrated about my void journey, more than ever, and it sorta hurts, to be honest.
"Don't u think before making a shitty post about me without having ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF, u should have massaged me? And talked to me about this?" I got screenshots of my conversation with soya, and I know for a fact I wouln't want to message you about any of this. Not even my experience with her coaching, because I'm afraid that you'll lie to me. If you'd lie to me about any of this it would make me even more confused about everything. More than I already am, so excuse me for setting boundaries for myself.
I am not going to say the success stories and the pictures from soya's coaching are fake, because I honestly don't know if they are and I frankly don't care. I really hope you're not wondering where you're in the wrong after reading this, if you'll even read it at all. I gather you're one of the "big bloggers", so this response of mine will probably be drowned out by your other notifications.
"I beg u please let this community live in peace , let people peacefully manifest their lives" It's hard to peacefully manifest my dream life when I have potentially been scammed. Even worse if it turns out soya was you all along.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I will be reading pink's Doubts post for probably the 5th time, as well as @soquimic's posts to build myself up again.
Void journal note: At least I can say I've learned that paying for coaching doesn't really help, especially since the information is free. Now I just need to depend on only myself and my own power to enter the void state, as I should've done in the beginning.
i just wanted to bring something to your attention bc you're the only blog that i think people acc trust
i think u know @trynafindbarbiee
sorry if this doesn't link but she blocked me so lol
basically she used to be a good void blogger but you can go look at her page yourself and now it's all just an ad for some random Instagram manifesting coaching account that she claims isn't hers (apparently it's someone who helped her manifest before she entered the void state but she never mentioned this before) but for some reason, keeps on advertising for and lowk gaslighting people into joining bc she says stuff like "do you not want your dream life? why don't you just pay already?"
her exact quote: “She’s open for coaching guys What are fucking waiting for? Don't u want your dream life? Are u not tired? Are u not fed up with all this? ARE YOU NOT?”
This is so disgusting to me to gaslight desperate people like this
Also, I was there when she first posted about that account. She said the insta account only charges $11.99 and then she changed it to $23.98.
Also all the success stories seem so fake. I'm not one to doubt success stories but the first few all seem like they're the same Indian girl and then the last 2 sound like random fictional novels. The second to last is a woman who was hospitalized and over 400 people visited her, like even presidents or celebrities don't get that many people and apparently she had money problems but none of the 400 people could give her any money or like the most recent one. the reason i even decided to call her out was because she made up a ridiculous story of a woman who got pregnant because she was taking antidepressants. i am majoring in healthcare and am very passionate abt this topic because some uneducated people believe this "that antidepressants can cancel out birth control" so they use that as a reason to not take them even though this is completely false and there is no evidence of antidepressants cancelling out birth control❗️
i am pretty sure trynafindbarbie is spiritual soya, it doesn't rlly make sense why she would be advertising her like this and ive noticed certain things like them both saying "peoples"but yeah i hope you can atleast just share this with your followers so they don't get scammed
i looked into this and you're absolutely right, it's a bit disappointing and i just get upset when i see people trying to gaslight and scam this community because the majority of this community are just young girls trying to get their dream life. i hope you guys know that you are so powerful and you can get your dream life on your own!
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hiii good morning jenx!! may i ask how did you find out about your psychic ability/ies? were you aware of it even when you were a kid? im sorry if this is too personal i was just curious about it ><
Hi pretty!!
I hope you're having a good morning so far and no worries its not at all personal I think I talked abt this briefly before but never got into it🥳
So I found out young, very young. Like seeing spirit animals after a family member has passed, talking to "deity", sensing their presences and being more intuitive than others. There were signs scattered around yet I did not once take it seriously. I brushed them off a lot because my mom is someone who's a certified hippie, does this 24/7 and growing up I was just like 😐naw that aint gonna be me😐 but it seems that the more I run away from it the worse it gets? Also I had this mindset from when I was younger that I am protected from evil spirits, like I know that nothing can hurt me for some reason and I don't get spooked by paranormal as others do. My little nerdy ass simply thought "Oh. I'm a good person aka my spirit is protected from all that is bad." And I say this with certainty but I think my childhood was A MESS. So its good that I started to take an interest in all of it later on in life, when I was 13ish I think. Started to talk more to my mom and got a lot of clarity haha
I think at one point its like the second I accepted it the stronger it gets? I worked with divination tools first like tarot, pendulum, runes but I was sure something was up because the voices that I hear during my readings make more senses everyday. Its incredible that once you accept that part of yourself things just align. Since then I indulged more in spirituality and theres just more signs here and there everyday. However I have only one rule though, never do Tarot for myself. There are loopholes ofcourse. But I try my best not to, especially if its about something close and personal. Daily card pull is fine but reading into a whole situation is something I refrain from doing and I'll ask other spiritual workers instead. I do this because of the 2 reasons:
1. My skeptical ass refuse to be too subjective. I need to hear it like it is and I refuse to be left out of anything I don't wanna channel into. (Unless that someone is tryna cause me harm then it's different)
2. My cards and spirits scream at me. 😀 They're just like don't you got better things to do this is not an emergency why are you trying to interfere with the energy we align for ya tf. Respectfully I think others may have this more undercontrol. But this is how my spirits work and every reading where I'm too close to the situation (excluding all the stuff we mentioned) then my guides are just gonna give me the same old answer, trust in the pLaN💀💀💀💀 So nah, I'd go to others when its like that and follow my intuition instead of doing that to myself💀💀💀
Ksks I started to change the subjects again but I did brush through a bit of it in the start, I hope this helps you baby. Just know that in the start, things never are easy at first and you'll always doubt yourself. My advice is, don't. Everything you feel and think matters. Trust your instincts baby.
love,
saint jenx🪐
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agoddamnedrayofsunshine · 2 years ago
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What’s the point in avoiding materials from animals as long as it doesn’t harm them? Is it a religious thing? /gen
Hiya, thanks for asking, I'll do my best to explain.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to convince anyone to go vegan or anything, nor do I speak for every single vegan on the planet. You can do with this information whatever you will. I'll also admit that I do still own a few leather and wool articles that I had from before going vegan. They're already here, I'm not just gonna scrap perfectly usable material or anything, I just will not be purchasing any new products.
Anyway-
Basically, the issue is consent. An animal can't really give affirmative consent, so to me it seems to be weird to take it- for example, cutting my hair off to make something out of wouldn't hurt me, per se, but I'd be pretty damn mad if someone did so without asking. It isn't a religious thing, per se, more of a I wouldn't much like that to be done to me kinda thing. For other vegans it may well be a religious thing, but I myself am not religious so for me it's more of a personal code of conduct, if that makes sense.
I totally understand that part of that is me anthropomorphizing animals. That's just like, my opinion, man.
Another part is that there are unethical conditions in the wool/honey/etc industries that I am not okay financially supporting, both of the animals and of the workers who handle them. There are for sure humane operations that treat their animals well, but I don't trust myself to be able to accurately judge how much is real humane treatment and how much is theater.
Again, thanks for asking. I hope I made sense.
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obscurexodd · 3 years ago
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Okay this is not in any way meant to encourage substance abuse BUT if you've decided you're going to experiment with recreational drugs, here's some very basic advice for the sake of safety
- Research any drug you take before you take it. Unless you are literally in the ER being handed a medication, do your research. Not all drugs work well together. If you have a medical condition, certain drugs may be especially dangerous for you. Look into any potential dangers, and yes, read the "don't do drugs" horror stories. "But don't you do drugs?" Some of them, yeah. That's why I insist on being as informed as possible. So I can make informed decisions on what I do or don't want to try. Know the worst case scenario before you decide.
- Look, this may seem like a stupid thing to say, but ask yourself why you want to do something before you do it. Usually the answer is "Because I'm curious and want to experience this" or "I want to have fun with my friends and I enjoy this" but if it's due to a desire to self harm, numb emotional pain, or peer pressure then admit it to yourself and use better coping skills/leave the situation.
- If you don't know where the pills you were given came from, don't take them. If you don't know for damn sure that they're not cut with something, don't take them.
- MDMA can have a pretty intense comedown and I don't see that mentioned enough when people talk about it. Another thing no one ever seems to talk about is how it affects your temperature and your sense of thirst.
- Nothing is ever "only" affecting your brain. It's going to have effects on your body as a whole and you need to be aware of that.
- As someone who's been in and out of psychiatric treatment for over a decade and has had a Xanax prescription for years, I've seen a lot of Xanax (among other controlled substances, but anyways) and yet I've never seen an actual bar like you see in those drug grunge skins 2k14 aesthetic pics. If someone were to offer me one, ever, I'd inherently assume it's fake and likely laced. Also snorting it is a waste. Don't bother. Just take the pill like a normal person if you're gonna take it at all.
- If you're doing something for the first time, let someone know you're high so they can check on you. Same thing with using a higher dose or if there's any change in circumstances. It's best to let someone know every time you get high, but that's not always realistic. At the very least make sure someone checks on you when you're doing something new. You don't know how it'll affect you. Maybe you get giggly or disoriented. Maybe you have a full psychotic break. You won't know and you need to be safe.
- Especially if you're doing psychedelics or anything that alters your perception of reality. Ideally I suggest not being alone at all if that's the case but at the very least make sure someone is checking in on you. At the very least.
- Avoid shopping. Lock your card on before you get high. Just trust me on this one.
- If you have any medical condition you need to look into how various substances will interact with them. One time I snorted [substance] and it caused an asthma attack (yes I know I'm an idiot and that should've been common sense). High blood pressure? Stimulants will make that worse. Clinical depression? Anything that will increase impulsivity is potentially especially dangerous.
- Yes there's long term effects of substance abuse. Yes addiction is real. Acting like it's not to justify substance use does not make you a woke stoner or a liberated spiritualist or anything of the like. It makes you anti science and spits in the face of those who have suffered from addiction and long term problems due to substance abuse. Whether or not you choose to use recreational substances is up to you, and I'm not going to argue with you about it either way. Still not an excuse to deny reality in such a dangerous manner.
- Don't do meth. Don't do heroin. I know that seems like a weird line to draw after all this, but I stand by that.
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did-we-imagine · 1 year ago
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That's some very good meta, and I do agree with the majority of lt. However, I also think it was fucked up in that Iroh ended up a prisoner at Ozai's mercy (which in a show aimed at an older audience would probably have resulted in his execution) which is something that fans also fault Azula for in S2 when she comes to bring them home. (My personal 2 cts)
I 200% support what you said about Iroh being too passive and not direct enough with Zuko. I did wonder whether it was because Zuko idolized Ozai so much he would end up rejecting Iroh, but he didn't even quite take any chances if only to see where he stood and whether he could be reasoned with or not. Especially when Zuko ended up in such a situation because he questioned Ozai (through his rejecting the general's plan!), and also his talk with Zhao where he says that his father is a fool for thinking that the world would willingly follow him.
I also believe that them never addressing the Agni Kai's circumstances (because let's be real, while the majority of the fandom likes to consider Iroh a saint for dealing with S1 Zuko, i am pretty sure that the real reason he stands by him isn't so much saintly patience as much as it's guilt for not saving him from Ozai during the Agni Kai). I'm gonna get lots of hate (despite the fact that I really do love Iroh, and his relationship with Zuko), but Iroh has acted as an enabler* -no matter how unwitting- and also miscalculated when he allowed him to join the war room. This particular point reminds me of a person I know in real life. They're perfectly nice and all, but their passivity has made way for an abusive person to unleash their toxicity.
I'm not saying that it's Iroh's fault that Ozai is an unhinged child abuser, but that he could have taken a stand and done something in a diplomatic way or at least minimized the risks for Zuko. I also think that this is why Zuko doesn't seem to fully trust him in S1, because in Zuko's mind, the cryptic hedonistic old man was neither willing to save his ass when Ozai fried his face (or at least validate him for opposing such a plan...Because the fact that Zuko is willing to go back to the asshat who fried his face for not wanting to use soldiers as bait not only means that he doesn't see that what was done to him was wrong, but that he thinks he was wrong for wanting to save them and accessorily going against Ozai), nor is he helping him "own up" his fuck-up to go back home. I don't want to go into details, but it reminds me of my personal experience, it feels like he isn't helping at all because of these mixed messages, no matter how involuntary. And honestly, while I understand that Iroh was heartbroken from Lu Ten's death, if he and the white lotus were a little bit more proactive and he tried to get back his throne, if only for the world's sake -because innocents were being harmed and if Aang is gonna be faulted for running away at 12, then all the more the reason to judge Iroh for it!!!!-, then many bad things wouldn't have happened.
Of course, the reason why I don't like criticizing him too much is that because the plot needed all of these events to move forward (it's as if the writers had an idea, but the problem is that it was somewhat too contrived at times and ended up not making as much sense as they would have wished because they would make things up on the go at the same time), and that Iroh was not meant to be what he ended up as + even Zuko was only there because they figured out that Ozai couldn't chase Aang himself as thr king of an imperialistic super power. Iroh was supposed to be a mole working for Ozai and slowing back Zuko, rather than the dethroned crown prince uncle fuddy-duddy who genuinely cares.
I hope this shit makes sense because english is my 3rd language so I worry my grammar or the way I write doesn't do my ideas justice (not that they are particularly stellar).
PS: *= enablers in real life don't have to be monsters or to agree that the abuse is rightful, they just have to be passive enough, no matter how right or wrong their reasons are, for it to happen, while supposedly having the power to stop it (NB: to the folks who are blaming Azula for Ozai's abuse, well...I hate to break it to you, but Iroh holds more responsibility in stopping it than she, a child, no matter how mean-spirited or competitive she was, actually did and this is very very very important for those of you who like to think about how Azula should have killef Ozai/intervened in the Agni Kai blah blah blah). Talking from personal experience, not gonna go into details.
On Zuko apologizing to Iroh
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So I'm probably in the extremely low majority here, but I honestly don't think that Zuko should of had to apologize to Iroh for the choice he made back in Ba Sing Se at all.
The two of them were at sea for three years. During those three years, Zuko only wanted one thing: to return home and restore his honor. To get Ozai's praise and love. Iroh knew this. However, Iroh also knew how much of a bad person Ozai was at this point. I mean, he literally watched him burn half of his son's face. And yet he never tried to persuade Zuko that Ozai wasn't worth it, and that going back to him would do more harm than good. Especially once the two of them were on the run? That would have been the perfect time to get it into Zuko's head. To try and convince him that there was a better path than the one they were currently on. But Iroh never does this. He just continues to feed into Zuko's desire to return home.
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Iroh, how exactly was Zuko supposed to just know what the correct way was when you, the only adult with him, never tried to tell him what it was? At least not in a way that made any sense to Zuko? Living in the Earth Kingdom and serving tea wasn't what Zuko wanted at that point. That wasn't the path for him. And yet Iroh tried to force it on him. So I honestly can't even blame Zuko for choosing what he did in the end. Azula gave him a clear path to return home with her, which was the path that he wanted. The path that Iroh gave to Zuko was unclear. The last thing you want to do is walk on a path that you can't see.
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razrbladekiss · 3 years ago
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Tyrants | Chapter Three - Presage
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WARNINGS: Brief mentions of Wendy’s drug use. Nothing explicitly *bad* goes on here, just some of the usual SOA shit is hinted at. :) Tig <3
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Ninety degrees was horrendous. Ninety-six degrees saw Isla spiraling toward a fully-fledged mental breakdown, desperate to climb out of her own fucking flesh and melt into the parking lot outside of St. Thomas.
Seeing the Sons sporting leathers, hoodies, and long-sleeved shirts underneath their cuts made her skin crawl, too.
She'd thrown on the flounciest summer dress she owned, thin and wispy, and she was still roasting to death underneath the Californian sunshine.
It felt like they were living in the fucking ass-crack of hell.
Though, with their current state and Charming's infestation of ATF and other federal agents, hell wasn't too far off the mark.
"Thanks for the ride." Isla expressed her gratitude as she slid off of the back of Tig's bike, pulling the helmet away from loose blonde curls.
"No problem, baby--you good to get home, yeah?"
"Yeah. I'm meeting Gem here, so she'll take me back to T M in time to pick my car up," she confirmed, readjusting herself.
She couldn't risk Tig Trager getting an eyeful of her asscheeks today. Not again, anyway.
"Perfect. See 'ya later, beautiful." Isla leaned in for him to peck her cheek--which was habitual for the pair--and she did the same.
Her smile was wide. She was beaming. "Bye, Tiggy. I love you."
"Love you too, kid." He reciprocated the smile, squeezing her hand as she broke away and padded toward the steps, brushing her fingers through wind-tousled strands.
Things were, for the first time in about a week, finally looking up. Resuming a sense of normality, perhaps.
She and Trager had been on precarious terms since that day, and had been avoiding one another altogether. Which, for them, was strange.
Days went by without even so much as a word being uttered between the pair, no backhanded comments, or even sideways glances.
Usually, they'd be bickering like kids, arguing nonsensically until Clay or Chibs broke them apart--but it was all just their little bit of fun. Because they bounced off of one another.
They lauded the relationship they shared because, really, it was one of the strongest.
He'd been her official favorite since the very day that they met--he and Bobby were the two she liked to talk to whenever she felt that she couldn't confide in her father.
But the last few days were so fucking hard. She was struggling with the weight of all that she did, coupled with the stress of not being able to discern Tig's current feelings on her.
And after she'd lashed out, had bitched at him for no fucking reason, she was pretty certain that Tiggy didn't want to know anymore.
That was thrown out of the window this morning, however, when Isla's clutch blew out, and she needed a ride from the garage to the hospital to see Abel.
Of course Tig was there for her. He always would be.
"Hey." Isla spoke softly as she held the little blue bear close to her chest. "I stopped by the gift shop on the way up here--Jax said he's already got bears and balloons comin' outta his ass, so I thought what's one more?"
Gemma couldn't help but smile, gesturing for the blonde to sit with her opposite Abel's isolette.
"He'll love you for it," she joked, though she knew that she was appreciative. For her company more so the stuffed animal.
With their commitment to the club and the current battle against the ATF, Jax and Clay weren't as hands on as what they usually would've liked.
Of course, Teller was at that baby's side whenever he got the chance to break away from SAMCRO, but he wanted more. He wanted the satisfaction of knowing that his little boy was being provided with the best possible care at St. Thomas.
And he was. He absolutely was. But he needed to know--for his own peace of mind, he needed to see that. So, his mother was there every waking fucking moment, giving him that love he could only get from his Grandma.
"How's he doing?" Her query was braided around a whisper, worried she'd disturb Abel's peaceful rest. "Jax said he should be coming home soon."
Gemma simply affirmed with a nod, gazing affectionately at her grandson.
It was heartwarming to see so much love, so much adoration from a woman who had a reputation for being a fucking cunt--thus proving that Gemma's main priority was her family, and their health and happiness.
That, somehow, made Isla love her even more than what she already did.
It also made her a tad jealous of Jax and the fact that he still had his mother in his life.
"He's gettin' stronger and stronger everyday. Tara said he'll be set to leave Friday--"
"Tara?" Her brow lifted as she put the bear amongst the pile of gifts. "I thought she was a doctor, I didn't think she had anything to do with the babies?"
Gemma's smile faltered a little. "She's a pediatric surgeon. Been takin' care of Abel since the start."
"Oh."
Now, she would've known that if she'd taken the time to visit her best friend's kid since he was born. But she hadn't--she hadn't even considered taking a trip over to St. Thomas to check in on Jax's baby.
And it was for the simple fucking reason that she couldn't bear the thought of facing Wendy and having to be nice to her. Especially after what she fucking did to that poor little boy.
She subsequently landed her own flesh and blood in the hospital after shooting heroin while pregnant? And she wanted Jax to pardon her for it?
Isla wasn't a hateful person, she didn't care about what people did in their spare time because that was their time.
But the moment an innocent person was harmed due to the carelessness of others...That was when she felt a scathing animosity.
"She's good with him." Gemma stated bitterly, snapping Isla from her ire-fueled daydream. "Kills me to say it, but she's a gem. A real fuckin' star."
"I'd bet. She was always good with kids."
"Yeah?" Suddenly interested, the older woman crossed over her arms. "Who's kids?"
Finally, Isla took a seat beside her on top of plush blue leather.
"A few of the girls we were in high school with had kids pretty young and Tara was usually super keen to hold them, or just hang out at their places whenever we weren't at school. Or it could've just been the wannabe doctor in her, now that I think about it."
"She's pretty maternal," Isla hummed in agreement, "but I'm glad she and Jax never had kids when you were teenagers--I don't know how that would've looked for him."
Suddenly, she was staring at Gemma like she had two fucking heads.
"I don't trust her." She elaborated, drawing another confused glance from Isla. "She and Jax would have been a fucking disaster had she stayed--"
"And things worked out so much better with Wendy?" A little more vehemently than intended, the blonde asked.
Now Gemma was the one shooting dirty looks.
"Look, Gem, I'm just saying. Jax and Tara are history now, yeah? You don't have to trust her. Just thank her for what she's doing for your grandson because when he's outta this place, you won't need to worry about her."
"And you're so sure about that, huh?" Skeptically, she asked. Arms folded over. "You know what they're like--like two fucking magnets or something. They always find a way back to one another."
That line gutted her.
It hurt her--it was agonizing--but she wasn't sure why she was so beaten by it. Because it was the truth, wasn't it?
Tara and Jax were, at one point, the strongest couple she'd ever known, and when it fizzled out he was fucking broken. She hadn't seen him so downtrodden since JT had passed, and he was suddenly left without the strength and guidance of his father.
She was his everything. Isla was a fool to think he'd be able to see her back in Charming and not feel something for her. His first love.
"I think we should throw Abel a homecoming party on Friday--if he's coming home then, that is." Gemma shifted the topic of conversation, getting to her feet.
"Absolutely. I'll help."
"Yeah?" She asked a little doubtingly, reaching over to pick Abel up. "You don't have to--I know you work Friday's."
Isla waved her off, standing beside the brunette. "I do, but it's no bother. If everyone's gonna be there, then I wanna show my face too. Offer a helping hand of some sort."
"Alright, perfect," Gem stated softly, holding the baby close to her chest. "When we get back to T M, we can figure out what we need to get."
"Sounds like a plan--" Isla was cut off by a soft knocking at the door, irritating her a little bit because she'd only just gotten there and hated the idea of having to leave already.
She made a mental note to stop by a little earlier tomorrow.
"Hey, sorry to bother you--" Tara stopped herself when she needed her estranged friend, almost dropping the clipboard she was holding against her chest.
Isla Telford was the last fucking person she expected to see today.
"Hey," with a fake smile, she greeted.
The tension was palpable.
Gemma felt the irritation washing over her favorite of the duo, urging her to turn her attention back toward her grandson before she said anything to worsen the situation.
Because she would've.
"Uh, I've gotta run a few tests on Abel before we determine that he'll be ready to leave this week, if that's alright?" Tara gestured to Gemma, ignoring Isla's presence.
That stung a little bit.
"Yeah. It's fine." The response was blunt. Terse, to a point.
"Great."
Isla realized that she wasn't wanted in that space any longer. She grabbed her purse, turning toward the door. "I'll meet you outside."
"Yeah, alright," Gemma put the baby back into his crib, smiling at Isla. "You want my keys?"
"I'll wait on the steps--I'm gonna smoke--"
"Before you go," Tara cut in. She cleared her throat, trying to smile--but she just couldn't.
Telford sensed where it was going, however. There wasn't a reason for her to stop Isla in her tracks, in front of Gemma no less.
She wondered how long it'd take for it to be brought up.
"Thanks."
Gratitude genuinely swept over the doctor, letting Isla know she was truthful in her acknowledgment--or, was it more like a form of praise? Because Jax definitely told Tara what they both did for her, and she was astounded that the woman would even float the idea of helping out.
It was a strange notion. To know what she did--when she looked and acted like that--was fucking weird. And nobody would've believed her if she said that Isla helped to dispose of a dead body, which did make her laugh a little.
She knew how to hold, load, and fire a pistol, but she wasn't capable of committing the unspeakable the same way that Jax, or Chibs, or Clay were capable of it.
But she was slowly earning her title as 'Daughter of Sgt. At Arms/ Man of Mayhem.' And she wasn't sure how she liked that.
"You're welcome," she spoke plainly. "Hope everything is alright now, Tara."
"It is."
"Good." Her retort was immediate, laced with that same genuineness the other woman expressed. "You free this coming friday?"
Hesitantly, she nodded.
"If all goes to plan--and Abel is good to come home--we're gonna throw a little party for the boy," Gemma confirmed with a nod. "You wanna swing by? Everyone'll be there--Donna, Ope, their kids, Wendy, the rest of the Sons. You should come. It'll be nice for everyone to see 'ya again."
Wendy's name falling from those pink lips, in such a positive light, maimed Isla. She and Jax were starting to get along a little bit better now, but she was still wary of that woman.
"Yeah. It'll be great," the older woman added.
Tara felt cornered. She knew that she wasn't really wanted, and she also knew that was a way for Isla and her menopausal best friend--old enough to be her fuckin' mom--to keep the doctor as close as possible without explicitly saying that they wanted to keep an eye on her.
"Sure. I'll stop by."
"Brilliant." Gemma conceded, slipping past the pair. "Address hasn't changed, sweetheart."
It was passive aggressive, sickly-sweet, and it was Gemma to a fucking T. The woman was loathing every second she had to spend with Tara Knowles and she wasn't even trying to hide it.
But it didn't have to be for very long, she thought.
"What was that all about? Why'd she thank you?" Gem queried as they got outside, passing the lighter to her left.
"For not breaking her fucking neck when I had the chance to all those years ago, probably."
Isla sparked her cigarette, pacing alongside her as they headed toward the car.
"That's bullshit."
"How so?"
"Just is." She could read Chibs's little girl like a fucking book. "But I won't press--if it's something between you and Tara, I don't care to hear. Just lemme know if it goes south. I can put a bullet in her for you, baby."
Isla would've laughed had she not known that Gemma was deadly fucking serious about blowing Tara's brains out.
But it was a relief. For her to give it up just like that--uncharacteristically so--was a kind of relief that she never thought she'd feel from Gemma Teller.
She was used to being protected. Used to being viewed as the one that needed to be shielded from the horrors that shrouded the Sons. But Isla wasn't innocent, nor was she fucking stupid.
The security was appreciated, however. Because, lately, things just didn't seem to be going too great for her.
And, if she'd learned anything, they'd only worsen from here on out.
"You don't have to go full mama bear mode, Gem. I'm a big girl."
She laughed, turning to face Isla.
"I know," smoke blew from her nose, "but you've gotta protect the ones you wanna keep close, y'know? The ones you love."
The tip of Gemma's boot pulverized her cigarette into the sidewalk as she fished for the car keys, avoiding eye contact all together.
"I haven't been able to protect everyone I've wanted to from the shit that goes on in this town, honey, but I'm really tryin'. And I couldn't live with myself if anything happened to you or my boy."
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aresrl · 3 years ago
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Helloooo, I want to try this too, it's sounds very interesting.
I hope you don't mind me being anon.
Could you write me a matchup for a vision, a male partner and a best friend and, only if you're in the mood, a enemy?
WARNUNG: It's a long text. I'm sorry ;.;
Most people are telling me "I'm too good for this world." because I'm always friendly, I try to help the best I can, doing my duties without complaining and never really fight with someone.
But actually, I'm just someone who likes to analyze people and react accordingly to they behavior. I want to understand people and I think the easiest way is to watch them. I'm very calm with a lot of patience and like to give advices. That's why people often come to me if they have something on they minds. I'm getting kinda uneasy if there is something I can't figure out. So, I like when people give me detailed explanation or description about something they want or need.
And even if people think I'm so friendly and kind, what I am, don't get me wrong, I love my peace and alone time. I'm way more productive if I'm on my own, because I can focus more and it's quiet. Also, I'm not the type of person who likes to be surrounded by many people. Mostly because I'm not so good at keeping a conversation alive, but I try. I like being around people I'm close to.
The friends and family I have are everything to me. I hold them dear and I always be there for them and try to keep them away from any harm. If they would betray me (what some really did) I would be completely heartbroken. I'm always scared that my loved ones will leave me. It's my biggest fear.
For a relationship, I think the person need a lot of patience with me because, like I said, I like to be alone. I'm also not a very affectionate lover, because I don't have many experiences. I'm fine with all those holding hands, cuddles, kisses and all but I would rarely be the one who make the first moves. If my lover is upset about it, I would trying to be more affectionate for the love of my partner to make him happier. I just want him to be happy.
But there is one thing I absolutely adore. Lying down, holding each other and just enjoying the atmosphere. No words (maybe a few) just cuddling and listen to each others heartbeat.
Some more informations if they're necessarily:
Things I like: dogs, drawing and painting, reading, warm weather with a soft breeze (I love this), respectful and understanding people, nighttime (including stargazing), meaningful conversations
Things I don't like: heat, arrogance, loud noises, to be bossing around, uncertainty, crowds
I'm sorry, it truly is pretty long. I hope you don't mind.
I hope everything I wrote makes sense to you. Thanks for doing this, I'm looking forward to read it :D
Have a nice day and stay healthy!
(chin up if your day was not so pleasant❤️)
Hey! I don't mind people being Anon at all! I don't know if you will find it funny or scary but I always think people “too good for this world” will die early. Eh anyways here are your results!
You received... A Hydro vision! Generosity, devotion to people, always helping others, and mastery are the main characteristics of the Hydro vision. • Last time I forgot the mastery thing and reading the analyzing part made me remember that it was also a characteristic of the Hydro vision. It seems that you are a great analyzer, you have your own way of analyzing people and you seem to do it accurately. • I feel that if you want to have clear indications on what you need to do for someone it's not only to greatly fulfill the task (which would mostly look like a Geo trait) but it's to satisfy the person the most. • You have a strong bond with people. I don't know if that's the case but I wouldn't be surprised if every time you have to make a decision or you think about something important, you will first think about people you love, like if it would hurt them if it would be more convenient for them or what would they think about it. Your partner would be... Diluc! A silent but soothing relationship. Two icons of Mondstadt. • The first time he heard your voice was at Angel's Share where you were talking with Eula. The bar wasn't crowded so you were feeling comfortable enough to talk properly with her. You were debating about Kaeya. You didn't really know him but you still shared the feelings you had about him with her. Because of Eula's presence, the few present people at the bar became a bit more silent, letting Diluc hear better of what you were saying. “Kaeya? Hmm... I don't really know him but I feel something off... The few times I've seen him he seemed quite dramatic. But the kind of drama attitude you use to hide weakness.” • In addition to your calm voice, he also liked your perception. He wanted to know more about you. As you were about to pay with Eula at the counter, Diluc spoke: “I heard you talking about Kaeya earlier. You seem to have good intuition.” He paused and crossed his arms, looking elsewhere. “You can only trust half of what he says... At best.” • Sometimes you went back to Angel's Share (not purposefully but most of the time it was during his shift) to buy a bottle of a drink to your liking, and little by little you began to appreciate each other pretty well. • At the beginning of your relationship, both of you would be clumsy because of your lack of experience but slowly, you would learn together. After being more confident, you'd both engage things equally. Diluc would be very romantic with you. • You share a common thing with Diluc: serving Mondstadt. You during the day, helping people, friends or friends of friends with their tasks or problems and Diluc at night, preventing the evil to reach the city. • Even though his facade can show a grumpy man, you can see what's really inside and that's what you love. • You would share a lot of relaxing moments privately. Both of you like a calm atmosphere, perfect to share a great moment together. • You two are popular in Mondstadt. Diluc already has his reputation but you, you are loved because of your pure kindness towards everyone. You won't spend a lot of time together publicly but when you do, people feel like seeing celebrities in front of their eyes. Your friend would be... Eula! “How dare they befriend me while being so popular? They will just bring more attention to me and my plans of vengeance! For this, they must pay!” • You get along very well with everyone in Mondstadt (except one person that we'll mention later) but your best friend remains Eula. • You are very close and actually, there are no specific reasons why you get along well but you do! • Both of you talk freely and most of your discussions are interesting. • When you hang out, you always go somewhere to eventually improvise things. • She likes the fact that anything you'll engage you into, you'll do it with finesse and without a complaint. Your enemy would be... Kaeya! And it's not even Diluc's fault • You find him suspicious and you know for sure that you will never truly know why. • He considers you like a sort of threat so he will be especially careful
around you. He knows how to lie but he would get better at it to cover himself even more. Which is a clumsy move from him because it will make him even more suspicious to you. • You try to avoid his case with Diluc for fear of getting him annoyed. • Deep down, there is no hate between you two. Kaeya knows you're perceptive and it just makes him insecure while you just wonder what he is hiding, by innocent curiosity. Worth to mention (but you mentioned you didn't like uncertainty plus, this is a long list, so you can ignore it if you want) : • You would be a great ally for Beidou but I think you would refuse to be a part of her crew because of the inconvenient lifestyle. • You, Xingqiu, and Chongyun would form a great trio! It would be mainly led by Chongyun who's heading out for an exorcising, Xingqiu willing to join him and by the way, inviting you. You would accept because all the moments spent with them are wholesome and also because you would be curious about ghosts, even if at first you thought you'd be more of a bother than anything else. You'd be a great ally for Chongyun too: he needs calm and you are, both of you don't like heat and you could help him with anything, it would always be easy and not tiring tasks. • Xingqiu finds you honorable. • You are a great support for Ganyu. • Jean respects you a lot, she could even admire you. • You share similar values with Keqing so you get along well too. You can count on each other and you would even be invited to a shopping session with common friends. • There could be interesting things between you and Xiao because he would truly appreciate you. A common situation would be you going to Wangshu Inn because you'd need a place to sleep for a night or two and during your stay, you would meet Xiao randomly. You would both say hi, pleased to see each other, Xiao's face would relax by seeing you. But there's nothing more. If this happened in a universe where there is a reincarnation process, I'd say that you were together in a past life, only death has managed to separate you, and now, you meet again but live your lives respectively. I hope it suits you and I also hope you don't mind Diluc's part being very long (and the worth mentioning too) and actually my answer being longer than your description eventually haha I almost did nothing yesterday so I'm gonna catch up today. But before, I have to do my dailies
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haljathefangirlcat · 4 years ago
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Ranking Hagens
Nibelungenlied Hagen: Clever, dependable, super loyal, actually loves his friends and family A Lot, may start praising them at the vaguest prompting. Also RUTHLESS, a bastard, Will Not Hesitate to kill you and/or ruin you if he feels you're a threat and/or he doesn't like you, is a-ok with harming women and killing children. King of bullshit excuses that somehow work even tho they really really shouldn't. Besides killing ppl and stealing their stuff, skills set also includes lying, scheming, and knowing how to use scorn "full well", which means not only you don't want to fight him or trust him too much, you also Do Not want to get roasted by him. Really dislikes Siegfried (relatable!) and is very very proud of himself for killing him (adorable!!). Drawn to cool weaponry like a magpie to shiny objects. Very pragmatic and straightforward, has probably never met a moral dilemma he didn't immediately stab in the back or dump into the Danube. Is the protagonist of what I honestly consider to be the single most (darkly) hilarious moment of the poem (seriously, go read Adventures 25-26, they're a WILD ride). Asking what his True Motivations are, how his character Should be interpreted, or even which historical or mythological figures he might be based on will probably start a fistfight between academics (tho that goes for everyone in the Nibelungenlied tbf) which makes him a bastard even on a meta level. Canonically long-legged and broad-chested and with hair "mixed with grey" at least in the second half of the poem, so I feel (almost) completely justified in calling him a leggy DILF/silver fox with nice tiddies. Engages in situational blood-drinking and gets his friends into it as well, which definitely doesn't justify me calling him a sexy vampire but shh, whatever. Once I posted a meme about him and tumblr removed it because it was just too hot. 11/10, literally my second literary crush right after Hector from the Iliad, been thinking of him and sighing romantically since I was literally just a kid. *sigh*
Waltharius Hagen/Hagano: Young and a bit naive and very emotional, therefore babey. Loves his friends and family A Lot and WILL start praising them completely unprompted, will also refuse to fight them until he's pretty much forced to and then needs to be comforted with kisses and hugs to actually go through with it. Still Not Sure how to deal with conflicting loyalties, thus Angst. Doesn'react well to ppl badmouthing his dad. Launches into overwrought speeches on mankind's folly and how greed is a terrible evil, but that's when his nephew's being an idiot and clearly going to die on his watch so I'll cut him some slack because he might actually be rehearsing what the hell he's gonna tell his sister later. Gets to duel his vaguely suggestive Best Bro Forever while both of them mourn the loss of the "famous harmony" between them and are generally very dramatic WITHOUT either of them dying heroically and/or tragically (tho they both end up mutilated, but it's ok because they then decide it's nbd and get drunk together). Has an awful sense of humor but Walther's is horrible, too, and apparently it's all Attila's fault for teaching them to use gallows humor as a coping mechanism. Geographically and historically confused but Very Soft. The lack of bastardness is a little disappointing but is easily excused by his youth and compensated by his adorableness. 9/10, would kiss on the forehead.
Der Rosengarten zu Worms Hagen: A giant?? But nearly EVERYONE is a giant in this so idk. Just a guy trying to do his job and be courteous while he's at it even while Kriemhild and Dietrich are being stupidly overcompetitive. Curses Kriemhild out at the end of one manuscript despite her saving his life, apparently, which is not very nice (come on, Dietrich was being an asshole as well!) but tbf he went from taking part in wars and dangerous expeditions to guarding some flowers and fighting in a dumb tournament with knights killing and maiming each other for literally just a kiss and a garland, and he's just had a rough day full of ridiculous shit like Hildebrand pretending to be dead to get Dietrich to fight better and Siegfried sitting in Kriemhild's lap and hiding under her veil to escape from a "grieving" Dietrich AND Volker showing up to his duel with a golden fiddle strapped to back like some sort of Impractical Giant Anime Sword AND Ilsan the warrior monk with the anger issues and sadistic sense of humor and absolutely no fucking chill (who is his own warning, really), so he should probably be lauded for not just giving everyone the finger and fucking off on some hill like in the Waltharius. 6/10
Kudrun Hagen: Not really an Hagen? Confusing. Probably shouldn't even be here but the characters in this are supposedly inspired by/an answer to Nibelungenlied characters. Still, why does he become supernaturally strong via dragon blood like Siegfried. Why is he Irish. 0/10
Volsunga Saga/Edda Högni: One of the lucky (?) few with common sense & chill in the whole mess - except when it comes to listening to his own wife being Right about everything, then all of that evaporates for some reason?? Doesn't appreciate ppl being loud for no reason (same) and tries to prevent a servant from being killed in his place (if only because the servant begging for his life is what's getting too loud for no reason, in his opinion - still a nice gesture imho). Either has a very weird sense of humor like Waltharius Hagen, or just laughs at very inappropriate moments. Really badass death scene, tho, and enough of a badass attitude in life that even HIS HEART is cooler than regular human hearts. A good brother to Gudrun despite everything. NOT a good half-brother to Guttorm, which is ironic considering other Hagens and Högnis. I've got a lot of stuff to read AND reread AND read better and paying more attention but right now he's at least a solid 7/10.
Thidrekssaga/Didriks Chronicle/Danish & Faroese Ballads Högni: The one who always goes out with a bang... because he keeps asking for sex as his dying wish. *ba-dum-tss* But it's all just a devious plan to knock up random women and get a bunch of avenging children who'll one day kill Atli or Kriemhild or both. Weaponized horniness, if you will. Or weaponized monsterfucking, since iirc he's the first half-human half-brother Högni/Hagen? Has to deal with Dietrich breathing fire/becoming scalding hot and NOT in the sexy figurative way/turning into a dragon and spitting venom all over him (it's ok, they still hug and kiss a lot), Kriemhild throwing random stuff on the ground to trip him up, Brunhild hitting on him, and at least one author saying he's ugly and looks "nasty" one moment and having all women constantly stare at him for his fame and "manliness" *cough* the next. Murder-happy even for an Hagen. Genealogy and role are all over the place. Goes from Gunther's and Kriemhild's half-brother to Volker's brother to Sigurd's foster brother & Brynhild's husband to idek anymore tbh. 8/10 just for how Extra his stories always end up being, and also for that one where Gunther is like "why can't you just be happy without doing evil shit?!" and he's like "we're literally going to our death, nothing matters anymore and I can and will have a little evil as treat."
Ring Cycle Hagen: Murderous angsty depressed teen (don't believe anyone who tells you he's a middle-aged guy in a suit or an old man with a big beard and a horned helmet, he's just one year older than Siegfried at most - so if Siegfried is an Innocent Yet Vigorous Adolescent Hero Prone To Youthful Follies or whatever, then Hagen is a goth teen, sorry not sorry, I don't make the rules) who is a bastard both literally and figuratively. Daddy issues of the "dad raised me to hate everyone and everything and ensured I'd never be able to feel any joy and would always hate and envy anyone who could, but we're secretly plotting together to take over the world so guess we're a team and I have to put up with his shit, but he's CLEARLY going to backstab me and besides I hate him, too" variety, mommy issues of the "everyone always compares me to or associates me with mom when they're trying to compliment me and I can never reply that I actually hated her for fucking dad and conceiving me unless I'm talking to dad and can't help but remind him of how much I hate both of them" variety, sibling issues of the "I think my half-siblings basically see me as a servant because I'm illegitimate and only half-human and in spite of how much they actually rely on me and hang on my every word, so instead of talking to them about it I'll just manipulate and use them and then smugly soliloquy about how THEY are really the servants doing MY bidding even if they don't even know it" variety. Plus a lot of self-loathing, because he means it when he says he hates EVERYONE, no exceptions. Also constantly tired and cold and complaining about being cold and tired, possibly because his dad keeps randomly showing up to discuss the great secret evil world conquest plan in the middle of the night ("Are you awake, my son?" Geez, he sure is NOW!) so when the fuck does this boy even sleep. Always looks miserable and the one time he cracks a joke nobody even cares it's unfunny and pretty tasteless because such a rare and unlikely occurrence is obviously a sign of The Happiest Day Ever When No One AT ALL Can Possibly Be In A Bad Mood... aaand ofc, it's all really just another part of the secret evil plan. But he's genuinely very pleased with himself for killing Siegfried (again, ADORABLE, even if a tad inconsiderate towards his own sister in this case). Clearly wants to fight everyone but, regrettably, has to play it smart and keep his cool. Needs a hug but if anyone were brave enough to try he'd probably try to claw their face off like an angry cat - and the closest thing he gets canonically is the Rhinedaughters embracing him to pull him down and drown him. My son, my baby, my perfect child. Deserves all the love and all good things. Did everything wrong and I know this and I love him. Where are the sappy, wish-fulfilling, whump-y, hurt/comfort fanfics where he is happy and loved? Where?! 10/10, would hug at my own risk.
Hebbel Hagen: Technically shouldn't be here because I can't find an Italian OR English translation and I'm not quite desperate enough to put the whole German text through Google Translate yet but I know he spends the whole opening scene complaining because no one will go out hunting with him on Easter morning and acting like Jesus only came back from the dead to ruin his fun so he's already a 7/10.
Füssli Hagen: Constantly naked, occasionally chained up. 100/10, why couldn't this man illustrate the whole Nibelungenlied, have you seen the Brunhild/Gunther bondage thing.
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If she was worried about Remy being alone in this hospital with a bunch of people they maybe couldn't trust, then she could only imagine how Remy must feel. He'd been out cold for quite a while, no way to protect himself, no way to assure no one would try to harm him. All it took was one shitty nurse or a doctor with a vendetta and Remy could wind up knocking on death's door. Oath be damned. There were cruel people in every facet of life, but here? Here they had the potential to be especially dangerous. She was gonna keep her wits about her. Even more so when she knew that Remy might not be quite so capable of the same. He was bed ridden. Recovering. He couldn't exactly keep an eye on himself if he slipped back out of consciousness or if they had to put him under for any reason. So she'd do it for him. As best as she could, anyway.
"Ya keep playin' savior, sugah, yer gonna wind up hurtin' a lot more'n this one'a these days," A concern disguised as a warning. Leave it to Remy to do the chivalrous thing and try to play protector. She loved him for it and was agitated at him for it in the same breath.
She might have scolded him further if not for that gentle press of his thumb. He was well enough to do this much, at least. She could be thankful for that. Still, she was torn between the need to raise her voice at him and the need to comfort him. This playful banter, however, was a much easier thread to follow. Less conflict in her head, a little more relaxed.
She scrunched up her nose in mock agitation when he brought up how she'd spoken to the nurse about him. "Only one needin' their head checked's you- bein' so pleased over somethin' so simple as that..." She muttered. Truth told, Rogue was a bit embarrassed, but it's not like there had been some chance he wouldn't have heard nearly every word of her outburst with as loudly as she'd been arguing. Hell, she was pretty sure that he could have still be unconscious and he would have picked up on those two words if just to tease her with them later.
"...Had t'make sure they knew I wasn't kiddin' around," She tried to argue, as if that made much sense. Of course they knew she wasn't messing around right from the start. As soon as she'd heard where he was, she'd marched in there like she owned the place, demanding to see him. If they'd done something to hurt him, she would have all but burned the place to the ground in her anger.
Despite that little scrunch of her nose a moment earlier, she found herself giving a soft laugh, relaxing just a bit. "Might'a overdone it, huh?" She asked. "Got in though, didn't I?" Even if it had been mostly because Remy had told them to let her in. Though they both knew she would have fought them until her voice gave out or until they forced her hand and she just pushed past someone and let herself into his room by use of force. One way or another, she would have ended up here, anyway. "An' now they're gonna have a hell of a time tryin' t'get me t'leave."
She gave his hand a little squeeze, resisted the urge to lean in and kiss him. "How ya feelin', by the way?" Of course she knew he was likely still in some pain, even despite the drugs coursing through him right now. But she hoped he'd pick up on the fact that that's not entirely what she meant. What she'd wanted to ask was if he was feeling off. If he thought someone might have done something to him while he was out- changed medication, a bit of something extra in the IV to mess with him... or worse.
The irate reaction to not being allowed in his room or being given his details was to be expected. He found it vaguely amusing she was making so much of a scene, but only barely. He was on the same page as her with preferring her be in the room with him, another mutant in a building full of humans in positions of authority, and the awful fact they'd had access to him unconscious, even if it were necessary to save his life, made his skin grow crawl. On paper, hospitals were supposed to treat you properly regardless, but paper and practice didn't always line up, and he wasn't one to trust the better angels of people when he knew all too well how prejudiced they could be, oaths taken or not.
He didn't have much time to dwell on that before the nurse had allowed Rogue in, and the anger and worry was palpable. "Gettin' full named? Mus' be in some kinda trouble." He eyed her, standing there quietly with so much tension in her body he wondered if she was going to start yelling some more.
Remy wanted to protest he didn't actually remember doing any such thing but that didn't change the fact he knew it sounded like him. And put a child or other not so capable mutant on the line and it definitely was something he would do, outmatched or not. Either way he was being shushed and he didn't have the energy fight her on her getting her say in.
Thumb shifted to grip her hand, humming a laugh since that seemed to be safest bet with how banged up he was. "You wouldn' have to. Would take Death back up jus' t'get back y'ya, mon coeur." He smirked at her, although he could tell the gesture probably wasn't enough to calm her down, the shaking translating to her touch on his face. "Fuck you mean tryna get out? You need your head checked while you in here? Sure your bell ain't been rung too? Be smilin' f'de rest de week over you hollerin' 'mah man' f'de whole floor t'hear. M'fine. Jus' need a few days rest, be good as new."
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