#true pacifist spoilers

[torsena123]

ROUGH DOODLE BUT:

M : Before you go, how about one last hurrah?

S : I'm pretty sure my family back home can serve us a feast for a hero like you! Ceroba can handle the guests, right?

C : Yeah, it's just... I can't believe this is happening. (if only it happened sooner...)

thoughts:

i understand that clover had to die but WHY IMMEDIATELY 😭😭😭

GIVE US SOME MORE TIME. THEY HAVE TO BE TOGETHER FOR MORE TIMEEEEE!!!!!!!

CLOVER AND THEIR BUCKET LIST. EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO DO. PLEASE LET THEM AND EVERYONE HELP FULFILL CLOVERS BUCKET LIST AAAAAAAAAAAA

[sososunniest]

this part of true pacifist truly hurts me "just give up I did" THANKS A LOT YOU STUPID SKELETON 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

I am FILLED WITH RAGE how DARE YOU TOBY FOX 😡😡😡😡🙏

i have nothing else to say

[sillysmileyfacee]

undertale true pacifist is NOT GOOD FOR EMOTIONAL PEOPLE LIKE ME CAUSE AGHHHHH

the tapes. where you see asgore and toriel loving eachother and asriel and chara :(

AND ENDOGENY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FIGHT GOT ME TO TEARS

edit: i just finished it. crying actually. I didn’t know this game could change me more than it already has, but hooooly shit.. I could talk about that ending for HOURS. bought the game like years ago and only completed the neutral ending once, gave up on doing any other ending like a million times and just finally had the motivation to do it today and MAAAN IT WAS WORTH IT!!! just had to stay determined haha

[the-great-bonkings]

Damn. This is good.

I really couldn’t help wondering how things went down for Alphys when the amalgams first happened…

Here is Part 2!

And here is Part 3!

[m-chromatic]

Undertale yellow all routes spoilers

undertale yellow.... aggie!!

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THIS SCENE—

[runesofthedelta]

There's some real funny character stuff that occurs post-no-mercy and into a true pacifist.

Chara seemingly returns to their old self, as the narrator, on that post-geno-pascifist. Frisk still gives their name as Frisk at the end.

The game is actually pretty forgiving about both geno and pascifist. Because there's nothing in either or that suggests that the world has fundamentally changed.

... But Chara, isn't forgiving.

Undertale falls with the idea that the characters are people. It asks "if a protagonist can actually Save their Game in real life, how would that affect the world and its people?", It follows every trope when it comes to RPG monsters, asking "If our hero is so heroic, what about all those monsters they slaughtered by the hundreds to get to the end?"

Its a deconstruction on the ideas of RPG. Most of the time, it reconstructs just as well, letting you explore what you'd like and still making it just in time for a happy ending...

... Until you decide to go on a killing spree.

In a reset post-geno, you have only one LV. By the end, the kid we've been playing identifies themselves as Frisk. Chara is still the Fallen Child we name, and is still the fairly amicable narrator.

Until the end.

If we choose for Frisk to leave Toriel (to... gods knows where), the picture we receive has all our "friends" crossed out, and the character of Frisk replaced with Chara.

( This might imply that they went after our friends... but truth is, at 1 LV, shared between Frisk and Chara, they have no killing intent at all. )

Crossing out this picture is a "Fuck You" to Chara. Frisk and Chara finally get a happy ending... but you, the Player? Absolutely Not. Chara won't allow it.

If we choose for Frisk to go with Toriel, Frisk lives with her and can be found sleeping in a bedroom as we watch. Once Toriel leaves a pie slice, Chara turns over and stares at our "camera".

( Still LV1, you can't get the true pacifist run without LV1 )

All this shows...

That Chara and Frisk share the LV. And about after Ruins, in Geno, is where Chara just takes center stage. Only in aborted runs or resets, does the stage return to Frisk and Chara chills out.

That Souls transcend Time and Space. Its the only way Chara would know enough or be around enough, to know what we the player did in a post-geno-pascifist world and ending.

Neither Frisk nor Chara control the Red Heart. We do, the Player. Even though the Red Heart is Frisk's soul, and that Chara is attached to it because Chara is a post-mortem consciouss that should have a Human soul, and persumably, their soul was Red too. ( I would've said that we don't know, because there were other humans... but Chara's speech in Geno specify Frisk. )

Frisk, cannot do a genocide route. At the start of it, Chara takes over right away, and stops talking to Frisk, and starts talking to Us. in every Neutral and Pacifist Route, Chara talks to Frisk. In Geno, Chara takes over, and Frisk isn't a factor. But once Chara gets the Red Soul, from us the Player, Chara will willfully just go back to talking to Frisk. Until we, the player, try to get involved in the ending scene--in which case, Chara takes right back over.

Chara encourages mercy and mischief, when someone is playing the game to be merciful. Very rarely do they interfere with the choice (one known exception is refusing to allow crying), and only in the true lab does Frisk interfere with Chara's set choices... of which Chara will staunchly back up Frisk's reactions from then on.

Even post Geno, Chara encourages mercy and mischief, but this is more specifically pointed to Frisk.

( Because if Chara just wanted to screw everyone, why wait for a geno-play? Why not just do it in a regular True Pacifist... Its because they don't actually want a Genocide. Who does? )

Chara wants to help, and protect, Frisk, as the "narrator".

They read to Frisk, they understand Froggits for Frisk, they give options, give descriptions. (I've got my own personal HC about who exactly is reading the HP, EXP, LV, ATK and DEF, because I'm pretty certain Chara isn't that indepth about monsters they couldn't have possibly met.. but they're definitely the flavor Texts and Descrptions). They kinda translate Frisk for Us the Players, so they do semi-know that there's a third (HC: Or fourth) party here.

( I believe the reason why ties into how the Red Soul operates as a human soul. Free Movement? Prime power to escape nearly any situation? Red Monster Magic about alarms and warnings? Red Text meaning Danger? The Red soul pays attention to Danger, and its first instinict is to Flee--thusly, Frisk is actually a pretty scarred kid. )

Chara's first instinict upon waking up to Frisk, inspite of how much others have claimed that Chara hated humanity... was to help by any means necessary with what little they can do. Especially since Frisk is a scared kid who doesn't know what to do at all.

So when that allpowerful third-forth party comes in, and decides that death by any means necessary is the goal...

What's Chara to do, except, take the brunt of it instead? Let Frisk take the backseat, and Chara does the dirty work so that Frisk doesn't get hurt.

Then Chara performs their ultimatum. They sever our connection to the world, and it stays dead, or we give them the Red Soul.

And upon taking the red Soul, Chara seemingly returns to just the merciful-mischievous narrator, at LV1, with Frisk.

... Only now, they stay with Frisk. And when it looks like that we, the player, are looking at them outside of the underground--Chara looks Back.

They took the red soul to ensure this little kid, Never Gets Bothered or Hurt by Us again.

ADDENDUM:

This ain't the first time in anime fiction where a dead semi-psychotic seemingly soulless spirit, fond of mercy and mischief but also fond of giving those with ill-intent their just rewards, who possesses a younger soul and bolsters and protect them.

Who woke up confused about where they were and what was going on.

Who definitely got themselves killed pulling something that didn't work, and they still had to fix it after they was dead.

Who's actions did result in a friend of theirs becoming a total asshole in his next life.

Who has played both psycho and savior.

And was a royal child.

... And y'know, they just happen to like children's card games.

[lividowly]

I finally played undertale yellow like 9 months after it released and oh my god you guys it's so fucking amazing especially Ceroba she's such a badass I love her

Drawn Late September 2024

Here's some other versions I made of this artwork confidentially it's 9 in total which matches undertales recent 9th Anniversary thats very cool

[iluvvaporeon]

drew this in english instead of taking notes bc i already did them

also bonus wip of my art project that im doing for my art class :3

yes it's clover in the pacifist ending i just really like the scene okay

[braininatankwithalaptop]

I've just been having Undertale Yellow thoughts and I'm just filled with specific angst thoughts on the endings. Because no matter what

Clover is alone.

Clover either drags their dying body to a wall to die with dignity, they're betrayed and killed by someone they thought was their friend after he killed Clover's chance to have a family, or they leave the underground empty and unable to connect to others (remember, LOVE means distancing yourself to more easily hurt others).

Sure, in neutral and pacifist, they briefly travel with Martlet and sometimes Ceroba, but they're either short lived or under false pretenses. Martlet tries so hard but ultimately does little to protect Clover, and Ceroba initially just tries to lead Clover like a lamb to slaughter. She does connect with them a little during the journey, but I feel like it's overshadowed by her plan to kill Clover. Clover at the end of a hard fight and betrayal is faced with an alcoholic widow begging them to kill her. That's rough.

I feel like in the pacifist ending, Clover's main reason to giving up their soul isn't because they really love the monsters, they're just extremely empathetic and care about the injustice dealt to monsters as a whole. The lines in the whiteout don't call to feelings of friendship or camaraderie that Clover experienced, but of how the monsters are suffering trapped underground, and they need Clover's soul to escape.

Frisk gets to end the Pacifist story with a loving family and all of monsterkind knowing their name. Clover's story ends in a tragedy as they can't connect any further with these people who might be the first in their life to care, and no one else would know as four monsters hold a funeral in private.

And ultimately how much does Clover's actions matter? Either they sacrifice themselves, or they have to kill everyone else to survive. There is no option between because Flowey is the arbiter of what happens and no neutral run is satisfying to him. He terrorizes Clover for funsies and then starts everything over again. Clover only gets the pacifist ending because of a whim from Flowey.

No matter what path is taken, Clover's story is ultimately a tragedy. They got to have some fun as a cowpoke, but it seems their story took more after The Great Silence than most other western media.

[thegirlsarethriving]

just finished undertale. ok i see the vision. i now understand yall's Sans-to-Benrey obsession pipeline. and the Papyrus-to-Tommy Coolatta pipeline

[tigerbears]

HOLY $#!%!!!!!!

I finally beat Undertale Yellow and this has to be the greatest UT fan-game boss fight of all time.

and I'm ranking it as second favorite UT boss fight right behind freaking ASRIEL DREEMURR BOSSFIGHT!!!

(You can probably guess seeing as the ceroba boss fight takes huge inspiration from the final boss of UT's true pacifist.)

If you haven't played the fan-game, well you just got one of the coolest moments in the pacifist run spoiled to you out of context but still play it!

[atwas-gaming]

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: "

"but when I became a man, I put away childish things." 1 Corinthians 13:11

This:

is not childish, it's childlike. There's nothing wrong with that.

This:

IS childish, and there's everything wrong with that.

Bonus:

The truest sign of maturity:

[thunderking345]

"Sorry for killing you, besties? :D"

True Pacifist Frisk and Clover: Kay :D

Aggressive Pacifist Frisk and Flawed Pacifist Clover: Wtf bitch no

[cluess-less-ness]

A Justice served like no other 💛🥀

🌼 “ Until we meet again…friend”🌼

[k1ttygam3r]

(Spoilers for Undertale Yellow)