#trism

[lillifaba]

Liir is the embodiment of gay son and thot daugther all in one.

[someonetookmyawesomename]

Hi! Sorry if I'm being a bother, but I just finished Son of a Witch and Out of Oz, and I noticed that Liir only refers to Candle as his 'wife' (the family tree in the beginning of the book says otherwise), but he's always very creative with his nicknames for Trism. You're kind of the expert on these things, and I was wondering if you noticed them too.

Oh this isn't any trouble at all! I'm actually happy to see a new person get interested in Liir/Trism!

Anyway, I DID notice that Liir's way of referring to Trism is much more colorful compared to Candle! Though NGL, I haven't read the books in a hot minute 'cause Uni is kicking my ass, so my recollection of details may be hazy, but I'm gonna tell you anyway HAHAHAHAHA

I think Liir refers to Candle as his "wife" because he feels devotion towards her. As the mother of his child, and the first person to care for him when he became an adult, she's played a very big role in his life. He calls her his wife because she's basically the only person he knew who's willing to put up with him and hasn't abandoned him.

Throughout his youth, Liir has struggled with his loneliness and despairs the fact that "Nobody will ever come looking for him". When Candle arrives, he's no longer alone and he finally has someone waiting for him whenever he goes somewhere.

On the other hand, Liir is much more creative and flowery with his thoughts about Trism, because he's completely and utterly besotted. Unlike his feelings for Candle, Liir's feelings for Trism are brought by attraction, not necessarily devotion.

I mean, if you read the books, Liir goes to great lengths to reminisce about Trism's looks. From his blonde hair to his apparently very nice ass (I still think it's hilarious Maguire added this detail), Liir spends an inordinate amount of time admiring Trism's appearance.

Not only that, bur Trism also plays a very impactful role in Liir's life. While Candle may have given Liir the domestic life he always wanted and spent roughly 2 decades with him, Trism is the one who is present during the turning points in Liir's life, not Candle. So it makes sense that Trism takes a lot of space in Liir's head.

Trism was the one who told Liir how to enter the military. He helped him complete his plans. Finally, when liir had to pick sides during the climax of his life, it was Trism who told him to "make his own choices for his own reasons". Basically confronting him head-on with his biggest flaws, his lack of initiative and self-identity.

Unlike Candle who is mainly a comfy person Liir can go home to, Trism is the one pushing him to take action throughout his life. They may not have spent that much time together, but every encounter they have sends their lives spiraling into a completely different direction. That's why I think Trism takes so much real-estate in Liir's mind.

Those are my thoughts anyway. Glad you decided to ask me! I'm flattered you think I'm an expert on this, but I'm really not TBH. I'm just a zoomer who's completely in love with the relationship between a neurotic witch boy and his sexy but really full of himself soldier BF.

I hope I gave a satisfactory answer, and feel free to give your own two cents! Don't worry about being a bother too! Talking about Liir/Trism is a stress-reliever for me!

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[phantomstatistician]

Fandom: Wicked

Sample Size: 1,381 stories

Source: AO3

[beetle-oxart]

[haveyoulistenedtothisalbum-poll]

Tracklist:

Legal Tender • Whammy Kiss • Song For A Future Generation • Butterbean • Trism • Queen Of Las Vegas • Don't Worry • Big Bird • Work That Skirt

Spotify ♪ YouTube

[chavisory]

"She'd known about Trism already, if only theoretically. Her reaction of, oh, shock was it, didn't derive from the substitution of this beloved man for her mother. Any equation of simple replacement would be mere math--the situation called for melody. No, her being appalled wasn't as obvious as that. Nor was it squeamishness about the maleness of their mating. Or not much. It was rather that she'd left her father a single man, serene in his independence, building himself a solitary hideout and losing himself in his quiet work, and she'd returned to find he'd gone--common. Seeking common satisfactions. Or common enough. Companionship. Attention. Yeah, love too, in all its mess and cost. So what am I left with, she wondered. What is it. Simply more aloneness, is that it. I felt less isolated flying alone on my broom than I do coming home to a cottage with dishes drying on a towel and farm animals braying and snorting in the barn. Where everything is a matching pair. Except me, who matches no one and nothing."

-Gregory Maguire, The Witch of Maracoor

[kirby98archiver2024]

Looking for a friendly role player who can be Meryl, Paula, Trisme, Hinawa, Kumatora, and Ana for me. I only rp on private chat and if you prefer discord let me know! You must agree to rp at least as any of those girls I request! look at pictures below!

[jillibean06]

Trism. :3

[lillifaba]

Boosting this again, but we've got a Liir/Trism discord group!

If you're a book fan or musical fan who is interested in talking more about the novels past the first book/other Wicked related things and want to get into Liir/Trism, then please hop in!

[someonetookmyawesomename]

"What had survived - maybe all that had survived of Trism - was Liir's sense of him. A catalog of impressions that arose from time to time, unbidden and often upsetting. From the sandy smell of his sandy hair to the locked grip of his muscles as they had wrestled in sensuous aggression - unwelcome nostalgia.

Trism lived in Liir's heart like a full suit of clothes in a wardrobe, dress habillards maybe, hollow and real at once.

The involuntary memory of the best of Trism's glinting virtues sometimes kicked up unquietable spasms of longing."

It's been a hot minute since I last read these words and DAMN!!!

I just realized how sad Liir's ending was!

Instead of remembering Trism fondly, those happy memories just remind him of what he'd lost and how he'll never experience something like it again!

It kind of reminds me of the story of a man who gathered a compilation of stories and memorabilia of other people's happiness so he can show them to his sickly wife who couldn't experience them for herself. Instead of being overjoyed, she killed herself because she was reminded of what she was missing out on.

AHHHHHH!

I can just imagine poor Liir sitting in his little cottage in the middle of nowhere, trying his best to busy his mind by writing his treatise. But then in the lulls of his writing, flashes of his time with Trism remind him of just how alone he is. Then he just sits there, hoping that maybe for once in his life, someone might actually come looking for him.

BUT NOOOOOO, OUR BOY GREGGY MAGGIE JUST DRIVES A KNIFE STRAIGHT INTO MY FEELS AND TWISTS IT!

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