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Liir is the embodiment of gay son and thot daugther all in one.
#Cherine this is for you#pride month going strong still#wicked#wicked musical#wicked the musical#son of a witch#SOAW#liir#liir thropp#liir ko#trism#trism bon cavalish#liir/trism
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Hi! Sorry if I'm being a bother, but I just finished Son of a Witch and Out of Oz, and I noticed that Liir only refers to Candle as his 'wife' (the family tree in the beginning of the book says otherwise), but he's always very creative with his nicknames for Trism. You're kind of the expert on these things, and I was wondering if you noticed them too.
Oh this isn't any trouble at all! I'm actually happy to see a new person get interested in Liir/Trism!
Anyway, I DID notice that Liir's way of referring to Trism is much more colorful compared to Candle! Though NGL, I haven't read the books in a hot minute 'cause Uni is kicking my ass, so my recollection of details may be hazy, but I'm gonna tell you anyway HAHAHAHAHA
I think Liir refers to Candle as his "wife" because he feels devotion towards her. As the mother of his child, and the first person to care for him when he became an adult, she's played a very big role in his life. He calls her his wife because she's basically the only person he knew who's willing to put up with him and hasn't abandoned him.
Throughout his youth, Liir has struggled with his loneliness and despairs the fact that "Nobody will ever come looking for him". When Candle arrives, he's no longer alone and he finally has someone waiting for him whenever he goes somewhere.
On the other hand, Liir is much more creative and flowery with his thoughts about Trism, because he's completely and utterly besotted. Unlike his feelings for Candle, Liir's feelings for Trism are brought by attraction, not necessarily devotion.
I mean, if you read the books, Liir goes to great lengths to reminisce about Trism's looks. From his blonde hair to his apparently very nice ass (I still think it's hilarious Maguire added this detail), Liir spends an inordinate amount of time admiring Trism's appearance.
Not only that, bur Trism also plays a very impactful role in Liir's life. While Candle may have given Liir the domestic life he always wanted and spent roughly 2 decades with him, Trism is the one who is present during the turning points in Liir's life, not Candle. So it makes sense that Trism takes a lot of space in Liir's head.
Trism was the one who told Liir how to enter the military. He helped him complete his plans. Finally, when liir had to pick sides during the climax of his life, it was Trism who told him to "make his own choices for his own reasons". Basically confronting him head-on with his biggest flaws, his lack of initiative and self-identity.
Unlike Candle who is mainly a comfy person Liir can go home to, Trism is the one pushing him to take action throughout his life. They may not have spent that much time together, but every encounter they have sends their lives spiraling into a completely different direction. That's why I think Trism takes so much real-estate in Liir's mind.
Those are my thoughts anyway. Glad you decided to ask me! I'm flattered you think I'm an expert on this, but I'm really not TBH. I'm just a zoomer who's completely in love with the relationship between a neurotic witch boy and his sexy but really full of himself soldier BF.
I hope I gave a satisfactory answer, and feel free to give your own two cents! Don't worry about being a bother too! Talking about Liir/Trism is a stress-reliever for me!
#wicked#liir thropp#liir#son of a witch#trism#trism bon cavalish#liir/trism#out of oz#BTW just a random thought: I can't believe this is all just based on wizard of Oz fanfiction by Gregory Maguire
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Fandom: Wicked
Sample Size: 1,381 stories
Source: AO3
#elphaba thropp#elphaba#galinda upland#galinda#fiyero tigelaar#fiyero#trism bon cavalish#liir#crope#tibbett#boq#nessarose thropp#nessarose#wicked#fanfiction#ao3#statistics#phantom statistician#gelphie#glinda x elphaba
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Glinda isn’t just the step mom she’s the mom who stepped up
#wicked the life and times of the wicked witch of the west#wicked movie#wicked years#wicked witch of the west#wicked#glinda the good#glinda upland#elphaba thropp#fiyero tigelaar#boq woodsman#nessarose thropp#dr dillamond#liir thropp#trism bon cavalish#kaworu nagisa#there’s no official pic of trism so I just used a picture of kaworu#hope that works#it’s like adult kaworu from the rebuilds#why am i yapping#abt Eva rn#Glinda liir mother son relationship is my favorite thing#also I know his dad is fiyero#i just like liir and glindas dynamic a lot
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Took me 15 years to draw my first ever fanart of SoaW
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Me: [pacing in the therapist office] But what really kills me are the people who believe that Musical Gelphie has more development than Fiyeraba and that Fiyeraba came out of ~nowhere. Putting Book Wicked aside for a hot second, the whole reason why Musical Elphaba and Glinda became friends in the first place in the musical is because Glinda played a mean trick on Elphaba, and Elphaba completely misunderstands it. She thinks Glinda gifting her the black hat was genuine! This leads her to ask Madame Morrible to include Glinda in her seminar and Glinda feeling guilty about her cruel attempt at humiliation and trying to assuage it by dancing with Elphie. That’s when they truly become friends. In so doing, the musical bases their entire friendship on a misunderstanding (!!). That’s what I mean when I say that Musical Wicked is fundamentally the Glinda Show. The two of them don’t become friends when they recognize their similarities or as a natural reconciliation of their differences. They are friends because Glinda felt white liberal guilt for a hot second. And then in the very next scene, Glinda tries to make Elphaba “popular” by making her to act and look like her. She still doesn’t accept Elphaba! So yeah, Musical Gelphie is a cursed ship to me, very cursed. I may bitch about Musical Fiyero being a Glinda clone (basically Book Avaric + Book Fiyero’s background), but at the very least he did accept Elphaba, green skin, Animal rights, and high C#5s and all. And the musical has at least a handful of Fiyeraba interactions pre-As Long As You’re Mine which shows their attraction to each other. I don’t know, does that make sense?
Therapist: Musical Wicked just sounds cursed all around.
Me: I know!
#wicked meta#wicked book#wicked musical#fiyeraba#cristina metas#it’s just cursed all around#also the heteronormative accusations make me laugh so hard#it’s less likely than you think#these must be like young teens who don’t know the book#because elphaba was emotionally destroyed when fiyero died#not when glinda didn’t come with her! not when her family barely searched for her!#yeah famously straight author gregory maguire forcing his fiyeraba endgame#🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣#maguire made drosselmeyer queer don’t @ my homeboy#best he could do is make glinda closeted sapphic#because there’s no way elphaba would have stayed with glinda or for glinda to go with her#also he made liir bi with liir/trism so yeah#occam’s razor he had very good reasons for faeyero/fiyeraba
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Hello!
May I have flags of transMS (multiple sclerosis), CisMS (multiple sclerosis), and TrisMS (multiple sclerosis)?
I understand it’s a lot, okay if not! Thank you and I luv ur flags :3
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— cisms [ cis-ms ]
when an individual is cisms !
— trisms [ tris-ms ]
when an individual is cisms and transms !
#transms#cisms#trisms#transid#cisid#trisid#slothqueer#radqueer please interact#pro radqueer#radqueer safe#radqueers please interact#radqueer 🌈🍓#radqueer 🍓🌈#rq safe#radqueer#radqueer coining#transid safe#pro transid#transid coining#transid community#transid flag#transid labels#transid please interact#transid positivity#transid pride#transids!#pro transx#rqc#radq interact
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liir’s not very smart but whenever trism’s in the same room he gets 100x stupider stg
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kind of adore the way that part of the painful ending of the original wicked novel is lessened by the point in son of a witch that elphaba’s life and goals and memory live on in liir…”elphaba lives” indeed :’)
#thought the ending of this one was really good#also kinda love that liir is just a 25 yr old single teen mom with his green baby now#I hope he reunited with trism tho their parting was very open ended
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No fucking way there was only one bed!
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Alright you guys, I need you to do me a favor.
If you've read SOAW or the other Wicked Years books or are going to (please do they're so good and you're missing out on so much) then please read and share some love for @shelltergod 's fic Dragonshell. She worked so hard on it and it's so good and so well written. Cherine writes almost EXACTLY like Gregory Maguire, you could almost mistake it for something he wrote but left out of his work. It's so unfair how this fic doesn't have enough kudos and comments. In my honest opinion I think Cherine is one of the best Wicked fanfic writers we have <3
Go go read it now don't walk RUN RIGHT NOW!!
#love you Cherine <3#wicked#wicked musical#wicked the musical#SOAW#son of a witch#liir#liir thropp#liir ko#trism#trism bon cavalish#liir/trism#wicked fanfiction
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Ah yes, took me almost two months but I can finally catch-up on that new Liir/Trism chapter
I hate it when life gets in the way of me and my gay fanfics
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/ / been thinking about this for the past 2 days UGH
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Wicked characters as things in my photo album
Candle
Rain
Liir
Killyjoy
Avaric
Trism
Fiyero
Sarima
Elphaba
Glinda
#I’m gonna confess I’m lowkey confused by ky oomfs hatred of candle#also is liir talking about Dorothy killing his dog or trisms mass arson#you decide#I’m not the only one who headcannons avaric pfanee and shenshen as a couple right#also sarima x Elphaba supremacy#enby Elphaba so based#wicked#wicked the life and times of the wicked witch of the west#wicked years#candle osqua’ami#rain thropp#oziandra thropp#liir thropp#killyjoy#Avaric Tenmeadows#trism bon cavalish#fiyero tigelaar#sarima tigelaar#elphaba thropp#wicked witch of the west#glinda upland#glinda the good witch#gelphie#this is book verse if that wasn’t obvious#fiyeraba#son of a witch#out of oz#a lion among men#another day
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