#tpn ch 180

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When Sora in Re:Chain ending said

In a world without you I’ll dream of you

That gots MAJOR human world Emma / ch 180 Emma vibes

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tpn ch. 180 rant (spoilers)

EMMA I LOVE YOU BUT WHY-

ahem-

okay, so. i’m kinda at a loss. i don’t know what to think, and i don’t know what to expect.  i had mixed emotions when she looked up and it wasn’t yuugo or lucas (i’m glad she’s alive, but i miss them so badly. i wanna see them again-), but I was expecting... i’m not sure. i wasn’t expecting him to look like santa clause, but appearances aren’t what matter. i’m really glad she found a nice person who is willing to take care of her. i also think the touch of her not having her id number was important and a good touch.  

i’m also glad that she’s in the human world, and still has (even if they’re very slight) a somewhat understanding of what’s going on, and emotions relating to her family. thanks mujika’s necklace :D

but, what happens when she runs into Ray and the others? i feel like the most likely thing to happen will be she doesn’t remember, but is still able to reunite and live with her family. they’ll tell her about what happened, and santa man will probably have to separate from emma. but i’d like to think, if that happens, santa man won’t have to leave emma. he’s taken care of her, i want him to continue to live happily and have a sort-of-family. he could maybe be our substitute for the dads? what if the entire story is actually something sort of like Pandora Hearts, where you could see it as a character explaining everything that happened to another character. what if the story is supposed to be seen as ray (i’m just throwing him out there cos i love him and he’s emma’s bestie <3) explaining everything to emma?

on the other hand, what if seeing them triggers her memories. demon god said that she’d never see them again. if she remembers, will it kill her? reverse the promise? take them back to the beginning of it all? holy crap imagine the last panel being emma waking up in grace field house- 

i feel like this one is less likely, but what if she, most literally, cannot see them. ever again. what if she’s blind to them? physically can’t see them. i can’t see that happening, but i mean... i’m just throwing that out there. 

i feel like the plot twist of emma not remembering (though kinda predictable) was good. i don’t think it’s fixed the... very-not-good that was every arc past the dads’ deaths. it was a good twist tho, in my opinion. i also like that mujika’s necklace is still important, and that there’s a part of her that somewhat remembers even just a liiiiittle bit about her family. in the frame showing her family faintly, it also included yuugo. which made me pretty sad. is she going to have to mourn again...? i feel like his (and lucas’s) death was one of the hardest on her, and i hope she doesn’t have to feel all of that again..

i’d also like to know what santa man’s name is. and what he named emma. just cos i feel like it’s something we should know. i don’t wanna forever know him as santa man :(

overall, what the heck. it’s going to be very hard to wait a week to see what happens aaaaaaa

[yuseirra]

tpn spoilers (ch 180)

I immediately thought norman wasn’t there in the latest chapter because he was seeking Emma on his own but a lot of people were guessing he just couldn’t make it because he’s out sick or something

That makes sense too, I think this is what might happen if Ray’s told him to stay put and rest (he’d say yes, but escape from the ward to look for Emma himself)

considering his personality, I don’t think he’ll be able to rest like he’s told if it’s related to Emma (and much as he cares for him, he never listens to what Ray tells him to do..ppft)

[just-like-playing-tag]

Emma - Chapter 180: Your Everything

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Aaaahh remember when chapter 180 came out and it was revealed that Emma had not in fact sacrificed a single thing about herself? What a beautiful, heartwarming chapter! I got a bit sad about the fact that it seems like she's still far away from her family, but I'm sure she'll find them at the end, because that's how Emma is. I'm so happy the authors didn't ruin her character!! I knew it was dumb on my end to fear that when there's this few chapters left (I mean, it has to be very hard to completely screw up a characterization in just two chapters) but you never know 😂😂

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Me @Shirai right now:

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It's so funny how Scribbles removed the whole ID from Emma's neck, but at the same time didn't mind giving her her ear back? So you're telling me he basically went: "here, you forget the trauma, but you keep the poor hearing"

Btw, doesn't it make it much easier for the other kids to find Emma? I mean, one thing is to look for a 14 y/o red haired girl, another is to look for a 14 y/o red haired girl who misses a whole ear. I don't think there's that many in the world, and with a bit of help from the Ratri clan (granted that they're helping them right now) and a bit of buzz from medias (granted that they have as much influence in people lives as they have in our days), it shouldn't be that hard to find her actually. If you then add "weirdly long antenna popping out of her head" to her identikit the chances of finding her basically rise up to 100%

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A bunch of people liked the post where I asked if anyone was interested in my criticism for chapter 180 and @wannabe-everythings said they wanted to read it so! Here we go I guess! I’m just posting it as it was, sorry if it’s a little messy.

Under the cut to not spam anyone who liked the chapter with useless negativity.

Ok this is the last post I’ll make about chapter 180 because I’m tired of my own negativity but I really feel like I need to clear things up:

I’m not upset because Emma has lost her memories. I mean yes ofc it’s a bit sad but I’m sure she’ll manage to reunite with her family and remember her past (or more likely not but even in that case she’ll create new memories) because their love is just that strong™

What I’m saying is that you could have had all of this, plot twist, heartbreaking chapter and everything without making Emma go for that decisions? Just have Scribbles be a jerk end not respecting the agreement, he ended up being one anyway.

I’m sorry, Emma lying to her family to me sounds so wrong character arc wise? I’ve never been let down by this series and I know it’s just a small thing (I don’t even think anybody besides from me cares), but to me it was very relevant?? I think there’s two major things about this that bother me tons:

Emma doesn’t lie.

Emma doesn’t believe in sacrifice.

I don’t know but I find these two pretty much key points of the character?

Emma doesn’t lie. Emma has learnt that lying is wrong. She has made her mistakes in the past (friendly reminder that in the manga she’s the one who came up with the idea of lying to Gilda and Don in the first arc), because she’s flawed, as all well written characters are! But she has learned from her mistakes, and that’s what makes her good. She’s not Norman you know? Norman has been lying since the start, and untill the most recent chapters he had never accepted that his lies were wrong. But she’s different.

Emma doesn’t believe in sacrifice. She just does not. It’s been basically her most important trait since day one. She doesn’t believe in no-exit-scenarios. It made her look naïve in chapter 4, and as soon as you realize there isn’t, in fact, a single thing about her that is naïve, made her look freaking amazing. She believes that the world can be made a better place, that her family can be happy (note: she’s part of her family!!) and that they have the power to do that. They may struggle, but they have the power to be happy at the end. That’s what all the fight has been for.

Ok now… Going from this to actively choosing to sacrifice herself????? I don’t know that doesn’t sound quite right… Emma has believed through the whole thing that when there’s no escape route, you have to create one yourself. She believed they could have escaped from GF and so they did. She believed they could find a safe place to live and so they did. She believed the GP suffering could end and so they did. She believed demons were sensible begins, she was compassionate enough to sympathize towards the race that has been eating her kind for hundreds of years, and believed they deserved to be saved, and so they did. She believed every single one from her plantation had to be prevented from being eaten, and so they did. Was it easy? Of course not! They struggled and lost many things. But still they did it. She did it. She granted happiness without compromises, because she believed in it. And now you’re telling me Demon god went “you have to sacrifice yourself” and she accepted just like that?

Also… Emma has self conscience. She isn’t vain, but she recognises her self worth as much as she does of her limits. She understands that she’s a person worth of living happily as much as any other person. It’s not a selfish thought, and honestly it’s a quality I really look up to!!!

Again, she’s different from Norman and Ray. I don’t know it makes me feel low-key sick to think about all the talks that Emma made to both Ray and Norman about how sacrifice wasn’t the answer? Doesn’t it all sound just meaningless and empty when she decided to take that path herself?

Ok also… She’s in no way dumb, she knows sacrificing herself is another way of precluding her family’s happiness forever. She understands she’s just as important for them as they’re for her. Then I don’t get why she would chose that?

Not to be sentimental™ and political™ and stuff but like… That’s what I like about tpn? I mean, how it kept sustaining the themes of hope, and to be able to build a happier future for yourself. That’s the main reason I had found this different from any other piece of media. There’s so many cynical, dark, the-world-sucks-humankind-sucks-and-there’s-nothing-you-can-do-about-it medias already! But medias ment for adults that display so neatly a character that no matter how cruel the world she lives in, how unfair and ruthless it is, keeps fighting for her family’s and her own happiness? That’s amazing!!! And quite unheard of as well.

What am I left with now? She had to sacrifice something about herself. She decided to give up on her own happiness. That’s sad indeed, but… Also pretty unoriginal? I mean, I’ve already read this story.

The only thing I can see is Emma deciding to sacrifice herself only because she was *sure* she would have been able to reunite with her family because she believes in the power of their love™ and stuff. But still that doesn’t make up for how she lied and nnghh… I still find it terribly ooc…

Tl;dr: Emma deserves happiness for herself 😭😭😭

I just hope she can be happy with her family again because that’s what she deserves.

That being said, basically my sole consolation about this is that someone else was able to enjoy the chapter, even when I disliked it! If you’ve got any criticisms / think there’s things I haven’t considered please feel free to discuss them with me, because I’m trying really hard to find a way this makes sense for Emma’s character but right now I’m miserably failing 😔

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Ok a few days ago I made a text explaining why I didn't like the latest chapter, but ended up not posting it. Tbh I don't want to spread useless negativity, so I'm asking is there anybody interested in reading it?

[yuseirra]

tpn spoilers ch 180 related!!//

I think emma is counting on her family and friends to find her!

it’s the tag game from ep 1 again and she will be found like always

[yuseirra]

tpn ch 180 spoilers related

remembering names again & retaking the photo