#toxic yaoi could've been more toxic

[waterwizardcat]

more hijacked satosugu

[sapphyreblayze]

The J'onnMax toxic yaoi in Booster Gold 2007 #9 was crazy. Love loses 💔

[eremin0109]

Not to dunk on the worst of evil on the eve of its finale but like gurl, you could never be the absolute whoreslut that is evilive.

[maulfucker]

If you look at my blog it might seem like I only care about Satine as an accessory to my pet toxic yaoi ship, but I do actually care about her as a character who could've been so much more interesting than the very basic characterization they gave her. I've said this before and I maintain it - she should've been a pacifist with a gun. defending that pacifism applies to institutions and governments not to individuals. she should've worn mandalorian armor and she should've kept her blasters eternally set to stun but still visibly carried blasters. she should've punched pre vizsla in the face. she should've punched maul in the face. she should've been padmé's idol, a role model for what she could've been. not impulsive and lovesick like padmé, not willing to risk her life or forgive anything for love like padmé, but a powerful politician who cared for her people and her culture and wouldn't hesitate to pick up a blaster if she had to.

[yurtb0y]

GNAWING ON THAT OC GIVE ME INFORMATION

YESYES OKAY!!! *inhale* SO.

(this all might change later since he's still pretty new)

General info I guess (haven't fleshed out his backstory much yet.)

was a Catholic priest before the AM takeover (obvis)

he's roughly in his mid/late 30's- early 40's

he doesn't have a name yet because I'm stupid.

He lived in the United States when AM attacked. He was born in Poland and moved to the US in his mid 20's. (probably someplace like Texas or Utah... )

probably gay or in some way queer but DEEPLY in denial. (also in my mind IHNMAIMS takes place in the 60s/70s somewhere around that time so like... y'know... also makes room for the religious guilt plotline.)

Kinda stopped believing in god after long enough in AM's complex because like really who wouldn't. throwback to Ted's entire spiel about AM being god y'know the one.( Ik that wasn't meant litterally but the sentiment still works.)

As for his relationship with the other survivors and his torture.

Ellen- He'd most likely be less harsh on her and not really like.... *ahem*. use her. He'd always been a pretty compassionate man he was never like the freaky creep kind of priest/pastor. He can most likely sympathize with her past a bit as well- or atleast as much of it as she's willing to share which I imagine isn't much.

Nimdok- This mf is Polish. He does not like Nimdok. (If we're talking game Nimdok which is what I'm basing this... AU, I guess? off of.) I don't think they'd actively beef but they'd prolly just try to avoid eachother within the group. In terms of book Nimdok I think there's a slight possibility they could've gotten along. Honestly for Nimdok like... (Idr if where I saw this I think it was from a fic somewhere) but I like the idea that he wasn't actually a n*zi but since it's mentioned his memory is fucked AM just convinced him and the others he was so pin them against him and fuck with him some more. idk man allied mastercomputer behaviour. It also makes me dread thinking about him a little less.

Gorrister- Surprisingly, I think they'd get along. Even if they don't share a religion I think they'd find solace in confiding their guilts in eachother, esp with Gorrister's guilt over what happened with Glynis-- also since it's mentioned in the book Gorrister used to be an activist (which I think is more interesting than his trucker backstory from the game so I'm sticking with the activist storyline.) I feel like he's the least likely to be quite as homophobic as the others (cause let's be real here.) so maybe. MAYBE. He'd eventually try talking about some of those buried up feelings with Gorrister. Unlikely though. Overall I think they could be the closest thing to friends I can imagine with their situation.

Benny- I think they could've gotten along pre-monkey'd, (For Benny I like to combine his book and game backstory in my mind so tldr he was a professor and was later fired when it was discovered he was gay and then the enlisted in the military and killed 3 people. boom.) I think Priest oc would've respected them but after the monkey moment I feel like he'd kinda treat him like the family dog just as the other survivors do.

Ted- Ohhh boy. I have some words I'm not sure I'm allowed to use on Tumblr. They'd either get along or beef or some secret third evil and more sinister thing. Toxic without the yaoi. They make eachother worse. I need to map my thoughts out better before I write anything about them out. giggles but not in a good way.

wow I really used this as an excuse to dump about my ideas for the other survivors too huh.

Whilst I haven't sat down to ponder how AM would fuck with him I do know I wanna play off the theme of guilt somehow. I can imagine him being ripped apart by wolves for some reason that's just been like stuck in my head the whole time I've been typing all this out. Also maybe almost something with sacrificial themes? I'm kinda thinking about how Benny's part in the game ends for inspo on that it's hitting the right vibe. Please don't cancel me I'm Polish and all my family is Catholic.

Annon I hoped you liked reading this cause I had fun writing it. Also here he is again for anyone who's seeing this but didn't see the og post.

also I'm SO open to name suggestions for this freak cause I've got NOTHING.

[totaldrama-showdowns]

Unused Submissions for the Favorite Rivalry Showdown!

justin and trent

please im so tired of seeing fluffy ship art of them THEY DO NOT LIKE EACH OTHER

justin literally got him eliminated i cant imagine they had a good relationship after action

"one time justin threw a tambourine at me and that kinda hurt >:|"

THE GUITAR SNATCH AND GLARE IN CELEBRITY MANHUNT

you know they had the nastiest most jawdropping arguments in the recording room during drama brothers recording sessions

uhh yeah they hate each other they should get to fight to the death as a treat

Alejandro and duncan

they're perfect

Scax

is this a rivalry? idk

Dave vs Leonard

IT'S ME! I DON'T BELIEVE IN YOU! NOW PICK UP THE PIG!

Lindsay vs Courtney

it was brief but it was enjoyable

Izzy and Justin

They're sooo funny, especially cause they're exes

Julia vs Priya

I don’t actually think this is the best one I’m just putting it here because we need more reboot characters in this bracket

Whatever Lindsay and Beth had with Heather after Island

you go girls

Geoff and Trent

hockey bros vs birds

why do they get beat up by birds so frequently

Dawn and Scott

Ok sure they lasted for two scenes but THEY COULD'VE BEEN SUCH GOOD RIVALS MAN

Julia vs Every Other TD '23 Blonde

Nominating this because I think it's funny

Julia and Caleb

I don’t actually gaf about them but i like when julia hit him with a frying pan or something

the roti writers and gen 2 female characters

they did them so dirty :(

bowie vs straight people

he's seen enough

chris vs blaineley

divorced enemies sweep

lightning vs cameron

it was ooc but it kinda slayed

Chris and Sierra

The New York episode. Please Chris should've been a hater the whole season and Sierra wouldn't notice it would be funny. See my vision

Ezekiel Vs Death

I just know Death keeps snapping those bony fingers any time Ezekiel escapes death

Emma and Julia

white on white violence

Terry and Chref

We saw that tweet

Mal and Julia

Mal plays the game really well and Julia's getting insecure. But I have faith Julia will triumph

Marmaduke and Garfield

I love tti

Me vs Blaineley

We are currently fighting over who gets 2 date Kelly (I'm winning)

larry v chef

chef’s gotta defend his man what can I say

Everyone (- Priya) Vs Caleb

He literally has no friends.

priya's personality versus the writers

season 2. need I say more?

Heather Vs Blaineley

I cannot tell you how funny it is that Blaineley turned up to the TD jumbo jet and chose violence against a girl half her age

Ezekiel and Chris

demolish that monster zeke

Sky vs Dave

He tried to kill her I think this counts as a rivalry at least a little bit

Damien vs Millie

Yeah! The finish line!

Duncney

toxic yaoi

Noah anf Harold

autism on autism violence and we love that

do alejandro and noah count,,, if not im voting leshawna and heather

brainrot says so

jasmine and shawn

just being a hater here, they were much more tolerable (but still crappy) when she hated him over them being a couple

dramarama ella and dramarama max

why couldnt this be their dynamic in the canon show

Damien & Julia

WE WERE ROBBED OF THEM!!!!

MK vs the bear

They literally fought in a duel together

Geoff/Bridgette and blaineley

Ma'am that's a child. Leave him by

Mal Vs Duncan

They suck I hope they get in so they're elimination fodder so someone else can go forward easily.

alejandro puppet and heather

1984

Wayne and me

I hate you little white boy! Get a job

[mouseratz]

tagging game! tagged by @yarboyandy

-three ships

uhhhh. Off the top of my head. 1.lisacreature duh. the whole movie. they're not a healthy relationship but like they're fine they just destroy everything around them. i lurv it . also of fucking course I wanted a zombie boyfriend as a teenager. I won't lie to any of you

2. danbert bc gay people in my phone. classic case of toxic yaoi. so toxic I've been thinking about them for years. if only reanimator had like been gay on purpose we could've had it all

3. also based off of "what's in my camera roll". the evil scientists from mst3k are gay also. Dr Forrester and tvs frank.... is this even disputed. I don't care. I've known this since I was a child. "they're gay married and kill each other in looney tunes esque situations daily" feels like part of the character concepts.

-first ship

Inuyasha x Kagome, most likely. it's like one of the first obsessions I can remember where a show had like, a romantic throughline I cared about at all. although, to be fair, I was still mostly into the comedy and supernatural stuff, and this was Very Young.

-last song I listened to

I stumbled upon the tiny desk concert performance and well. I am not immune to popular things. chappell roan is pretty awesome. I love the videos and performances, but the pop music is also really solid, and I find myself enjoying it way more than expected. this songs good but I haven't listened to it a lot yet....my first time actually

-currently reading

Perry Mason and the Glamorous Ghost. I'm only like a chapter in. idk it was an impulse buy on my birthday because the cover was awesome. also pictured: my copy of Frankenstein. I read that in October. loved it

-currently watching

uhmmmm. still rewatching always sunny in Philadelphia. forever. watched a couple episodes of space ghost coast to coast earlier. I still want to keep watching twin peaks the return but I haven't because. idk. its hard to be me....

-relationship status

very incredibly single. it is very hard to date when u can't drive where I live. I mean it's hard in any circumstance but whatever shots I had are dust. would love to date sometime in my life possibly. I have been feeling that way for um. like four years now. so. we will see how that goes.

-current obsessions

Lisa Frankenstein, obvs.....my hobbies and such though? kind of in a slump. I've been like.....learning how to apply makeup for once for fun. I'm still very bad at it but idgaf it is what it is what's always made me uncomfortable about it was that it never "looked right" and I didn't want to be judged. instead of just treating it like a for fun thing. ie I want Colors On My Face I don't even cover up my acne atp. oh and the gender thing. like if I didn't do the makeup right I was being bad at being a girl. and now I do not have to worry about that at all.

-currently craving

like, food? um. I hope the brownies I made tonight taste good in the morning. I let them cool overnight so idk how they taste yet.

-favorite color

green, but I'm a big fan of what pink and black (I KNOW it's not a 'real color' IDC) and some shades of blue and yellow and orange have going on. I just like colors lmao

-tagging

hiiii I won't mind if you don't do it this is just a little shout-out okay :) @mahkari @jokeryuri @homokommari @mushroom-in-space

also anypony else who wants to do it can.....I won't be mad

[ghoooooooooooooooost]

my thoughts on 'my home hero' now that it's over:

(not rlly that long but i put a buncha images in there lol; mhh spoilers also)

tldr; should've ended at the 1st part imo. one of those things u only keep reading bc u like the protag

the first part had this sense of like, claustrophobia? the protag was some 47 year old father working at some average company who ended up committing a crime with a murder weapon as mundane as a ricecooker... he only knew how to deal w a body bc he likes mystery novels... the wife-husband teamwork was fun n cutes. absolutely love how the final fight here was 2 dads pathetically swinging at each other while crying (AND it was thematic bc they both got to this point for their kids). i haven't reread it so idr what "woah??" things happen other than the tetsuo beat-up-naked scene n the reika kidnapping-that-wasn't-real(?) but it was def tamer compared to the rest

2nd part went so berserk - a huge n sudden escalation especially with the massive death count. also made me grossed out; it was mostly supposed to do that but could've been handled with much more restraint... like we did not need to see all that w the cult (side note i also don't like them making the age gap b/t tetsuo n his wife awkward). while this plot was foreshadowed somewhat in part 1 it still felt so disconnected to me. i just wanted it to be over already like get tf out of there!!! final confrontation was neat tho

3rd part started big then felt like it was trying to tone it back down by the end?? despite the terrorism. somehow. n why tf was iraq inserted into the antagonists' backstory. shino was a very strange man; i was majorly uninterested for most of this part until it just turned into him n tetsuo shooting at each other in the woods. the toxic old man yaoi triangle going on was so wild

reika n tetsuo's convo after the last fight got me i'm ngl. i shook my head at her being a cop but then the final chapter revealed that she quit n i clapped (implied she's still perusing law tho?)

final verdict: should've ended on ch 48..... man......

(don't read it tho)

[randomidiocyncrazies]

@lishenkaaa okay so. ngl this kinda possessed me a little bit lol lol (rancid toxic doomed yaoi that makes everything worse!)

long incoherent ramble about possible Ruka/Saionji (SaiRuka?) dynamics under the cut

timeline-wise, Ruka is introduced when Saionji already had his duel and lost miserably, and dies before the culmination of Touga's manipulation of Nanami takes place—it's difficult to think of a situation where they'd meet at all, given that Saionji seems to drop out of the dueling game in earnest and only comes back when Touga reached out for help in the last arc.

but... there's nothing that outright contradicts any combination of Touga, Saionji and Ruka being classmates before Ruka got sick and left school. They're implied to all be third years, and the middle school flashbacks of Juri and Shiori suggests that Ruka did not exist back then. So it's possible that Ruka went to a different middle school, attended Ohtori for high school and became fencing club captain in his 2nd year, and left at the end of his 2nd year/beginning of 3rd year (at which point Juri took over). The passage of time is entirely vibes-based in Ohtori, but if you lay it out like that, then it's possible that Ruka and Saionji would know of each other before the point we see them in the show. (I still don't think they'd give a shit about each other, but it gives us more possibilities to work with.)

Judging by the flahbacks, Saionji's inferiority complex towards Touga started early middle school at the latest, so Ruka wouldn't be on Saionji's radar during their first year in high school, since he's already fixated on his competition with Touga. (Plus, Touga's self-worth in part comes from his ability to manipulate Saionji, so i think he'd sabotage any attempts to make other friends even if Saionji had been so inclined.) And once Juri joins the high school fencing club, Ruka would've been drawn to her potential and hidden vulnerability, wanting to 'save' her from her emotional turmoil.

...All of this is a very long-winded way of saying that I think it's possible that Ruka could've noticed some of the underlying issues between Saionji and Touga's toxic friendship if he shared classes with at least one of them, but only in a distant manner—it's none of his business, and he thinks they both suck. Being a fellow manipulator (or at least having a similar capacity for manipulation as Touga, even if he wasn't actively manipulating anyone back then), Ruka could see through Touga's shtick, while Saionji is too damn brutal and hostile towards everyone to have much of the 'potential' or 'nobility' that'd compel Ruka to want to 'save' him, even if he pities him in a distant and somewhat condescending way.

The fact that they got more and more toxic doesn't help. (Yayyy being entrenched in abusive cycles/unhealthy patterns!) If Saionji was unworthy of being 'saved' in the past, he deserves it even less now. So Ruka comes back, lives a "normal school life" and sets up his scheme, and comes into contact with Saionji to learn more about the duels from an outside source/not Touga and Akio. He kind pities Saionji in a "wow this loser is so pathetic" way in part because he sees how much Touga and Saionji's unhealthy friendship took a toll of them, though Saionji's disdain for EotW might pique his interest and probably is the only thing that he kinda respects Saionji for.

As for Saionji, Ruka's vague smug pity would've been enough to piss him off without Ruka trying to 'save' him through manipulation. Being pitied means he's inferior to Ruka, means he's fundamentally not seen as an equal, means he's 'weak'—and it'd be extra infuriating if Ruka is so much better at swordplay that he genuinely can't beat him... which could be a similarity Ruka shares with Touga? (Though to be honest isn't a very clear-cut indication that Touga's skill level was on a completely different level from Saionji's, so perhaps Saionji's whole "we've sparred so many times, today he just happened to win" in ep 9 wasn't just lying/trying to save face.) I think there's also an additional layer about trust and expectation that could be kind of interesting to explore, in that he wants to trust Touga but past experiences have taught him that he should expect some kind of hidden barb, while with Ruka there's no reason to trust him aside from the fact that Ruka doesn't really care enough about him to have to manipulate him in earnest. And like... I do think Ruka would be more honest with him than with, say, Juri, because Saionji is nobody to him.

TL;DR: Ruka might see some similarities between Saionji and Juri's situations, but deems Saionji 'undeserving' of being 'saved', because he lacks potential/nobility and is just a violent brute*. Meanwhile, Ruka's condescending pity pushes all of Saionji's rage buttons, but because he doesn't care enough about Saionji to manipulate him, their interactions are more genuine in a really bizarre way.

*Juri's "hidden face" is discussed in ep 7, and she herself jokes about how it makes her sound like a "wild beast." Could this potentially be something? idk. Juri and Saionji are fundamentally very different people, who may share some similarities, but remain very distinct individuals

P.S. It's even more hilarious if you add Touga into the mix. Ruka and Touga were essentially colleagues when Ruka was around in canon, and their dynamic seemed to be some variant of "i know you have an agenda, but i won't get in your way if you don't get in mine"—which potentially raises a complication re:Saionji.

Given that Touga had other ongoing schemes, I think he probably stopped actively keeping tabs on Saionji at least until his BS with Nanami was over—if we stick to Ruka's canonical death, then Touga might not even have noticed or cared about any connection between the two? He had no reason to actively keep tabs on Saionji, he was busy with other mind games, and he knows Ruka's goal is tied to Juri. Touga is still confident in his own prowess and position as Akio's right-hand at this point.

But... if Ruka survived until after Nanami, then Touga might be more Concerned™, since i think Nanami somewhat shook him up? (I interpreted her final arc as her starting to pull away from Touga/not depend on him so much.) Akio also moves onto Utena in earnest, which both threatens Touga's position as his right-hand and also dredges up his feelings for her—Touga would be vulnerable at this point, and might have a stronger reaction to Ruka honing on his territory/his chewtoy. Touga would probably feel threatened that someone else was messing up his status quo—in canon he reached out to Saionji on his own terms, but if Ruka is involved here, he might be more desperate to regain the upper-hand, making his reconciliation with Saionji into yet more manipulation bullshit, which traps him and Saionji in their toxic cycle.

Also, if Ruka didn't die and had diverted Saionji's attention away from Touga by starting his own rancid relationship with him, would Saionji still have supported Touga as much during Touga's final duel? Would Touga be able to come to the conclusion that he really does genuinely care for Utena in some way, and would he have any inkling that Akio's machinations ultimately keeps them trapped in their coffins? Probably not! It's Saionji who asks whether he loves Utena, and it's Saionji who makes the observation that they're all still trapped.

So if Saionji and Ruka are in dysfunctional yaoi by the time Touga wants to reconcile and get a second opinion, Touga's probably more doomed than he was in canon���he'd probably cling even more to Akio's way of doing things without a sounding board who challenges him. And if Touga didn't reach out to Saionji, would Saionji realize they're all still trapped within their coffins? Maybe! But probably only deep down in his subconscious, remaining unarticulated, which isn't really that helpful.

Meanwhile, with Ruka still around, Shiori would probably keep fixating on him, which hurts Juri because she can't get away from the people who wounded her or have a chance to recuperate and re-evaluate her relationships in private/move on, which hurts Ruka because he essentially gave up everything and made Juri hate him for this one desperate gambit, but was unable to 'save' her anyway.

TL;DR: SaiRuka really does make everything worse lmfao

has anyone considered ruka and saionji. i don't think anyone would be fixed but it would be incredibly entertaining.

[fwacchi]

On mobile & sorry if I said anything weird my first language isn't english & for not using puntuation I'm not good at it

Hello! This is just a mini rant(kinda)(since no one that I currently know are into vtubers or know what they are & I just wanna talk about it) but I just came across this tiktok short/edit (don't really know what to call it 😅) but she basically trying to expose? Vtubers (mostly nijien) (mostly nina in this case) but she was a minor (it's in her prof.) & I found on one of her edits/videos she was asking ppl for shoutout bc she 'needs her fame back' & that just makes me feel weird about it like.. Idk.. I think that recently I just had seen some ppl trying to cancel some vtubers on tiktok for stupid things like fu-chun getting 'cancel' for liking/reading BL even though he's bi if I'm correct (ik that some of the cancel aren't really recent but tiktok just kinda stated to put those videos on my for you page recently) like for vox I kinda get why he's was cancel but at the same time not bc sure you can feel uncomfortable & all but for me personally I think that calling him a p*do was too mush like lately ppl have been throwing that word around to losely & I just think that he over share to much but yeah

Btw it's ok if you don't want to respond to this you can just ignore it but have a good day/night also I hope that your first day in college was good! My younger sister also just started college & she was saying the same thing as you so just know that you aren't alone 🤣🤣

Your English is reallyyyy good!! <3 and good luck to your sister too!!!

I've wanted to talk about this topic before but didn't really have the chance to but now that you've ranted about it, I'm gonna reply to your rants with a rant of my own so buckle up 😌

(there's literally an essay down there so enter at your own risk 👁️👁️)

This is exactly why I barely go on tiktok anymore. when I used to be a diehard fan of kpop artists, shits like this was way more worse. At some point, it started disturbing me to the point I actually never went back on tiktok again. That's how much I hated that app back then. Literally just one or two months ago I opened that app again, thinking I could have a peaceful life in vtubers fandom but oh lord I encountered a hate video.

It was something similar to what you said, but what I saw was a video saying "canceling nijisanji en" and I thought it was a joke or something so I went to the comments section to see what it was about. And the whole comment section was filled with "omg yes" "ugh shifting to nijisanji jp right now" "well at least shu is safe💀" honestly, I was like huh??? seems that they were talking about most of the nijisanji en boys interacting with an artist who was apparently racist (or something else i'm not really sure) but yeah that's the bits of it. [I saw a comment under the specific post saying something like "if this is how yalls attitude is, then don't even think about coming to the jp side" and I was like SLAYY GIRL YOU RIGHT ASF] sorry I'm pretty much gatekeeping niji jp from toxic fans like that who could just hate on their so called "oshi" on a baseless rumour.

First of all, I'm on twitter literally everyday and have heard nothing of that issue. Or maybe it's possible that I could've totally missed it. Secondly, even if the issue is true, I'm pretty sure the en boys wouldn't have interacted with the said artist if they knew about it. Like girl, vtubers don't have to know everything about everyone on internet. Just because they don't follow up on who is who and who is supporting what doesn't mean you have the fucking rights to cancel them.

Let me tell y'all something mind blowing. Reading BL isn't a crime. Surprising? Get that into your fucking mind. BL is a genre just like Mystery, Romance, Historical and etc. Even if you're straight you can read/watch BL it's not wrong. It's not wrong as long as you don't fantasize about it and get off on it. If you're a straight person reading BL (yaoi) and getting turned on about it and being public about it, then seek help. That's just so wrong. You girls don't like it when men jerk off to lesbian porns so it goes both ways.

This is me speaking for myself as someone who enjoys BL and I would love to read GL genre too. But there's just none that suits my taste and BL stories are being published more and more rather than GL. That's the main reason I read more BL and not GL. It has nothing to do with me being a freak. I don't even read much yaoi like BJ ALEX, painter of the night, etc. I mostly enjoy fluff BL genre because I see it as any other romance. (if you have good gl manhwa/anime/donghua/manga recommendations, please share it with me👁️👁️)

And calling vox a p*do? that's just way too offensive and wrong. Did you see him having dirty talks or actually having sex with a minor? No you fucking didn't so stfu. You don't even know who he truly is behind the avatar so what gives you the rights to say something so horrible about him? And this goes to everyone else. Even if a person you know, or barely know, is a prostitute, slut, playboy or whatever, you do not get to judge them. You're not their parents/family members so you get no say in their life. Just stfu and live your own life instead of judging others'. UNLESS you see them committing real crimes which is against the law of your country then report them to the police. That's all you have to do.

Now, I don't want to categorise all tiktok users as one group but most of the people, I repeat, MOST of the people in tiktok are underage, or simply just utter fools who have no morals in them. Especially those hate accounts (and this goes to EVERY hate accounts. not just the ones dedicated to nijisanji/vtubers).

I see some accounts saying "this is a troll account. i actually love [insert name] so much🥺" no. If you love them as much as you claim to, then you wouldn't even think about hating on them like that even for a joke. That's just disrespectful.

What do they really get out of this hating behaviour? likes? shares? comments? fame? well if that's what they want then they're really doing it in a wrong fucking way. I didn't know people could be happy getting those achievements from such a nasty way. They have little to none shame. Possibly bringing down someone's career because of their stupid behaviour isn't something to be proud of. Their parents surely wouldn't be proud of it either. Am I mean? well not as much as they are and at least I'm only speaking facts.

It's literally so easy to shut up your mouth if you don't like something. Like, go find something else you enjoy instead of hating.

+the nijisanji en family has been getting bigger these days which is why they're getting more hate that are visible. The only thing we can do is comment something to put some sense in their shitty mind(which will end up going over their head considering how dumb they are), report, block and scroll away. Fools like them can't be fixed unless they themselves realise what they're doing and how it harms others around them. We really shouldn't be wasting our time and ruining our mental health over some dumb asses.

[rouge-heichou]

I swear to god, the EreMika and EreHisu war is the funniest thing.

But the EM shippers are lowkey the worst.

me: *doesn't ship EM*

EM people: LOOOOL SUCK IT, you're just mad that EH isn't canon haha go cry

me: ???? I don't ship EH either? Go away with shipping in AoT. Only thing I ship is Levi x Zeke the tea shop he's always wanted

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It's the funniest thing, as soon as you say something like "EH makes more sense tbh bc it isn't shoehorned into the last 3 chapters of the story" they'll tell you "YEAH WELL ALL THE THINGS EREN DID FOR HISU HE'D DO FOR HIS FRIENDS TOO" yes, you are correct here, but the same fucking thing applies to Mikasa

This one fucker lowkey told me:

"hey idiot I remind you that when he hit dina's titan in his human form not even as a titan since he didn't know about the founder's power, he did it knowing that he could die at that moment and only to protect mikasa."

Like yeah? Remember when Eren flung himself into a titan's mouth facing certain death only to save Armin??? You telling me now that's evidence that Eren's having the hots for Armin??

or:

"he went on his own on a killing spree to save mikasa!"

Yeah? He didn't even fucking know her back then, it could've been coonie for all I care and it'd been the same fucking thing. This wasn't about Mikasa this was about someone having their freedom taken away.

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EH shippers are just as fanatic but at least they're making sense and are able to construct proper arguments

people be saying yaoi shippers are toxic but this whole EM vs EH is fucking peak comedy

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Im honestly so done with aot fandom wars really. I now let people spew whatever shit they want. It gets toxic in the end. I started hating so many characters because of this irritating fandom till I realized that a bunch of teenagers dont have the right to steal my love for this story away from me. Theyre so ridiculous really it looks like a bunch of kids decided to watch AOT and miss the point entirely. Yams wrote a beautiful story that gets more interesting when you reread it. I wasnt even aware of shipping wars till I finished the manga only to realize its hellfire here. I just assumed oh Erwin loved Marry but chose the corps how sad. Shadis had a thing for Carla. Bittersweet. Oh Ymir and Historia loved each other. Tragic. Reiner is a historia simp great. Oh Levi and Hanji are closeted lovers who just cant accept they're into each other. And thats it. But I went online just to see wow manga discussions yaaay and I ran into middle school children shipping Levi with Eren/Mikasa I mean are you ok? Are you not unhinged? Do you need therapy? Seriously guys wtf? Levi/Erwin? WTF? They're literally brothers wtf? Hange/Moblit, WTF? Are you even aware of the concept of friendship and loyalty that runs in the army? Do you think everyone in the army is in love with each other wtf is this logic Im sorry Im so done with this fandom. AOT deserved better fans who'd appreciate the story and its depth. Apart from a few plotholes that made no sense. (Especially hanji's useless fking death, dude she could've lived ok its so unfair. Anyways) I also can't stand it when people start making Yuri and Yaoi ships of two clearly straight characters. I don't mind if you ship characters within a show that have some sort of legitimacy FROM THE SOURCE MATERIAL. But literally changing everything about characters just so they can fit your idea of a stupid ship is pathetic. A character is so much more than someone you ship with someone. Grow tf really.

Anyways, I just wanted to rant really. Im so sick of this fandom and the toxicity it holds. And sadly its just growing.

Hi anon,

Feel free to rant about it here haha. Given what's been happening recently and yeah even before that, I have seen a lot of toxic parts of this fandom. Stuff which make me wonder if people actually have lives outside the fandom because the amount of effort people go to just to be angry is just amazing.

There are parts I don't agree with though. Personally, I just think that people can ship whatever they want, they can hc whatever they want, they can write whatever they want, they can draw whatever they want.

Like I'm not a fan of other ships in AOT, as much as I am of Levihan but what just irks me about the overall fandom is this need to police everything and this need to push preferences on other people.

Fiction is powerful. Fiction can be a reflection of reality but a lot of people like to use their own strict preferences as some means of putting themselves in a higher plain of moral existence. Lmao, news flash, the best determinant of how 'moral' someone is is for one, how they treat others and how they navigate morally gray situations.

A person’s fandom preferences is not a good indicator of their moral compass.

And I just hate this general need to attack Levihan and the Levihan fans just because one has other preferences, attack peoples favorite tropes or hcs just one has different 'favorites.'

Let's just stay in our own backyards and just enjoy our own food??