#toxic gnostics

[divinecomedyproductions]

Fandom and Literary Woes: The Arrogance of The Information Age and Literary Intellectuals

One thing I've noticed with the RWBY fandom and pretty much modern pop-culture and literary intellectuals is this nasty habit of locking concepts and tropes down into theories and formulas and try to completely rationalize what is "interesting" and what's "boring" and ruling everything else as corruptions or worthless little parasites upon what's the supposed "objective reality" and the end-all-be-all of a concept.

My first experience with this was with the "literary experts" coming out to rule out what's the end-all-be-all of concepts like Jaune and Pyrrha and Arkos in epic fantasy/sci-fi after the RWBY Volume 3 Finale

Baically

"Arkos ended tragically worked, ergo all couples and characters in epic stories like Jaune and Pyrrha(the dork knight and the warrior woman isolated by society) especially if they are directly inspired by them must also end that way to raise steaks and consequences, and they only way they can have a happy ending is in a sitcom/romcom. Doesn't matter what the epic story is about, what happens, their roles, or why, or why it makes audiences happy, if they don't end up dead in an epic, it means nothing."

Any anyone who actively disagreed either was exiled to RWBY Chibi, or been implied

"Okay, do your thing(AU/OG Work), but keep in mind, it ultimately means nothing, it contributes nothing, its nothing but a worthless little parasite upon the glorious meaningful tragedy that is Arkos and same can be said what you plan to do with the rest of RWBY.

You have no objectively good reason what makes you happy unlike us who have every objectively good reason in the cosmos for our satisfaction and contentment."

with and underlying gnostic attitude of

"Because we, the experts, know what things truly are, what they can ever be, and in what specific ways and genres and you don't."

and much like Andrew Ketterley, they are often arrogant and hypocritical and are not bound by the rules of logic like everyone else.

"Men like me, who possess hidden wisdom, are freed from common rules just as we are cut off from common pleasures.  Ours, my boy, is a high and lonely destiny.”-Andrew Ketterley, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Magician's Nephew

When snobs consider your work or what you enjoy a bad because its only enjoyed by a smaller audience which then they pride themselves on they liking something thats enjoyed by the masses "it speaks to the human condition"

Then if you like something thats resonates by a larger audience, they flip it to "enjoyed by the unwashed masses" which then these prigs boast like something thats niche its because "we enlightened few understand something deeper and higher."

When it was the reverse logic 5 minutes ago

Cliche, niche, broad, what makes money, and tampering around with concepts in dissent and distaste is "bad" unless "the right people" like it and get what they want

Because they alone are the alchemists who can turn lead in to gold

Which is why they say its "interesting" to make evil superman out spite for superheroes like that in The Boys but a sexy magical girl Captain Marvel with her own set os sailor scouts like in Kamen America, especially made out of dissatisfaction and distaste how the inspiration was handled is "derivative" because the "experts" supposedly know what's the objective end-all-be-all reality of a concept and we don't.

They know, with a capital "G" and we don't.

And because they have "The Gnosis" and perfectly rooted in "objective reality" logic is fluid to whatever makes their way right.

They hav exclusive dominion over these concepts and tropes

Because again, they have "The Gnosis" and we don't.

Because it’s the Information Age and we have so much info, those who are oh-so objective and intelligent can use said information to find what’s the apex of a concept or a trope rule out everything else.

All as they judge, shame, and lecture us peons high up in their ivory towers hundreds of yards away on social media now to supposedly stay “objective” and not catch the disease of “subjective feelings” which they never elaborate

And like RetroBlasting said in his doing nothing video it’s no longer the analogue world and they know better than anyone else so they see our stuff on their feed and stop and jump in and lecture us

And and the critics often the resort to greedy reductionism(aka “Nothing Buttery”) to reduce our stuff to whatever makes it sound stupid/immoral which then they proceed to gloss over, ignore, and label the details

[runerapier]

If you don't mind me asking, what makes you interpret Angeal as anything other than a straight man? He's the least gay character I've ever seen and he doesn't act gay either.

I'm going to assume this isn't sent in bad faith but this is pretty on point with the definition of stereotyping. I mean if you’re defining being gay by how someone looks or acts that is your first problem. Angeal has very outwardly masculine actions and appearance, I’m not really a fan of the insinuation that masculine men don’t “look” gay enough. Angeal isn’t even a hyper masculine or toxic masculine character, he is almost always described in a way that is seen as nurturing or caring. His own fan club compared his hobby of cooking to that of a wife. Things like gardening are often seen as more a “feminine hobby.” This isn’t to say Angeal breaks insane boundaries but Angeal isn’t this rigid masculine character in the first place. Besides my personal headcanons, Angeal and Genesis' stories take quite a bit from The Fall of Mankind (and religious and mythological symbolism in general but I'm going to try to stay on track). They purposely made two male characters represent Adam and Eve, and this isn't the first time they have done something like this in a final fantasy game. For example: while they are more developed than Genesis and Angeal, characters like Fang and Vanille are based on the Nordic myth of Ragnarok. There is a lot of information that couldn't be included in the final game of Crisis Core but is still intended canon, I'm going to be using a lot of that as a reference point. The full explanation is pretty extensive and I'm also not an expert on The Book of Genesis. I tried my best to do research for this, but it is possible I am still missing things and that this can still be expanded upon.

I'm going to start off by giving a deeper explanation on how Angeal represents Adam and how Genesis represents Eve. Genesis already has a very strong connection to The Book of Genesis because of his name. Rhapsodos comes from rhapsody, his full name is literally "genesis reciter". Genesis and Angeal were the first two attempts at an artificial “cetra” created by Shina representative of Adam and Eve being the first humans created by god. (While there is some debate if the first woman is Lilith, she is often been seen as a demoness.) The kanji for Shinra already is a direct reference to god, and is symbolism for how they like to play god themselves. The image below has a great explanation that is much better than what I can do, but to keep it short 神 (shin) literally means god or divine and 羅 (ra) is derived from 網羅 (mōra) which means "encompassing".

The fruit of knowledge is typically portrayed as an apple, which connects with banora whites. It represents temptation, Genesis offers the apple to others when talking about truth and revelation. Instances like in Nibelheim, Genesis offers the fruit to Sephiroth after telling him the truth of his origins. Sephiroth rejecting the fruit is a sign of him rejecting the truth, and we see he continues to go along with a story he is happier with. Sephiroth decides to believe misinformation that is less painful, the rejection of knowledge is indication he is not Adam or Eve.

Banora is heavily connected to the flow of the lifestream, which is what makes Banora whites grow any time of year. The lifestream is said to contain knowledge of the planet and its people, that being what powers the fruit further reinforces the idea that they represent the fruit of knowledge. Banora being the source for what is essentially miracle fruits powered by the planet, it is clear Banora is meant to be Eden.

Minerva is said to be sleeping in the caves of Banora, she represents the will of the lifestream. Though Minerva is connected more to Roman Myth and Sophia from Gnostic belief, I would still say she emphasizes the holiness of Banora's land.

Angeal has a story about not stealing to reflect Adam trusting god and not taking from the garden. God's words to Adam were "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, for when you eat from it, you will certainly die." (Genesis 2:17) Angeal stole from other trees besides the big one that had the most delicious fruit. While it can be argued Angeal didn't steal from Genesis in general, Angeal's story focuses solely on the biggest tree with the most tempting fruit, that tree represents the tree of good and evil. At the end of the game, Zack eats an apple under this same tree with Genesis, protagonist and antagonist sharing from the same tree. Shortly after eating the apple Zack learns the truth about how long it's been and leaves to meet his fate.

Hollander approached Genesis with the truth of his origins, convincing Genesis to help him with his plans in exchange for a cure that Hollander never had. Eve was afraid of eating the fruit and dying because of what God told her, but the serpent convinced her she would live. “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3:4-5). Both being deceived, they were convinced that they would live if they defied God, and become the catalysts for knowing the truth. Eve did not want to be alone in her defiance so she looked to Adam, much like how Genesis approaches Angeal to persuade him to take revenge against Shinra.

Besides Eve being referred to as Adam's wife, Adam also placed his trust in Eve above god. He decides to listen to her and trust her despite his creator telling him he will die. Angeal places his trust in Genesis above Shinra when he decides to defect, believing he can rationalize with him despite this being high treason.

This has happened before already, Angeal placed his trust in Genesis above Gillian and defies his mother to join Shinra. Gillian didn't want her family to be connected to Shinra and despite how highly Angeal respects his mother he still defied her wishes for the sake of following a dream with Genesis.

This leads into the next part, less about how they parallel The Book of Genesis and more about how they parallel other characters in the narrative. This makes me a little nervous to talk about so I’m going to put a small disclaimer that I am not arguing for any canonicity of ships because I think it is a waste of time. However, I think discussing characters' feelings that push their motivations is important.

In the narrative, Angeal also greatly parallels Cloud, I feel like this isn’t something that is talked about enough in general. They share a great deal of small parallels like both enjoying landscape photography, being associated with wolves, and elementally representing lightning. Besides surface level things, both Angeal and Cloud have a guilt complex and feel responsible for the people around them. The main parallel that’s important to this conversation is their childhood friend from the same countryside town.

Cloud was inspired by Sephiroth and his desire to protect people he loved like his childhood friend, Tifa, to join soldier. This is similar to Angeal joining to be with Genesis; their childhood friends are motivators for both of them.

This is something that’s pointed out in DFFOO as well, Angeal hears about Tifa and immediately draws the connection.

Both Cloud and Angeal feel responsible for protecting and looking after their loved ones, Angeal is seen as a caretaker type for this reason. Both Cloud and Angeal want to help fulfill the dream of their childhood friend, Tifa's was being saved by a hero and Genesis' being to share an apple with his hero Sephiroth. We see this when Cloud berates himself for not being the hero Tifa wanted and Genesis telling "Angeal" the dream has been fulfilled implying it has been something he knew about and wanted to help him achieve. Angeal's will in Lazard only fades away after Genesis said the dream came true, like there was a sense of fulfillment and that he could finally pass on after holding on for so long.

I find it interesting they intentionally draw parallels between Genesis & Angeal and Cloud & Tifa, people who have more explicit romantic feelings. I think Angeal and Genesis are supposed to represent a more “genuine” version of Cloud and Tifa’s relationship. Angeal represents the story cloud wanted to have throughout ffvii, having a childhood friend who never grew apart, who stayed together, and who followed a dream together. Angeal genuinely made soldier, and for a time he felt like he was in control of protecting others unlike Cloud. This contrast stays until the end, Cloud and Tifa learn to repair their relationship while Angeal and Genesis fall apart. Despite having everything Cloud wanted, it was not enough to sustain. This contrast is important in emphasizing that it is not about your background or your past, it is about what you do now and having people to fall back on. None of this is meant to be used as proof Genesis and Angeal are canon, but rather talk about Angeal's strong devotion and feelings for him since he was at least a teenager. They do not perfectly replicate the fall of mankind but it is interesting nonetheless. Here's to hoping we get to see more of how they interact in ever crisis.

[90sdiablo]

you know, why do I have a feeling that the Vivziepop critics are just jealous and have a boring sex life?

like, I'm all out for criticism because it gives ppl new ideas (like for me, I'm thinking about having some gnostic mythology for my rewrite of Hazbin and the Hellverse), but I just draw the line at "omg this show is so ass why do these characters swear so much Stolas is a rapist you can't like Val and toxic relationships yaoi fujoshit BDSM bad furrybaiting DeviantArt OCs Vivziepop bad blah blah blah"

c'mon, guys. since when criticism became synonymous with crapping on a writer?

[heartmilheart]

I have so many post ideas but the release of the first chapter of "Ouroboros" by @yesterdayoats on ao3 made me shift my priorities

At first I thought the title was complete gibberish but I decided to search it out of curiosity

I found out that Ouroboros is an actual thing

"Ouroboros is an emblematic serpent of ancient Egypt and Greece represented with its tail in its mouth, continually devouring itself and being reborn from itself."

- https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ouroboros

"What does Ouroboros symbolize? Ouroboros is a gnostic and alchemical symbol that expresses the unity of all things, material and spiritual, which never disappear but perpetually change form in an eternal cycle of destruction and re-creation."

- same site

So what could this mean in the context of the fic?

Looking only at the tags there's some that I think are the reason of the title: deception, hurt/comfort, ccodependency.

By looking only at those tags, Arisu and Chishiya's relationship will be codependent with manipulation and deception. In this case, the Ouroboros symbolizes how their toxic codependency makes them destroy but also "re-create"/support each other. Their relationship will be mutually toxic but also with a side of support (hurt/comfort).

(All just my opinion)

Ok that's all I wanted to say.

Heartmilheart out 😅

[vxn3lla]

https://www.tumblr.com/creature-wizard/761018683964424192/the-law-of-assumption-isnt-a-cult-mmm-are-you?source=share

Hm? I supposed it depends on who in the community you interact with.

Me personally I don't see there being a founder. All forms of manifestation are connected in a way, the only difference being terminology and way of applying the knowledge. People in the community have a tendency to act like Neville Goddard is some all powerful being when he's just a dude who wrote about his experiences

The original post linked an article about "demystifying the double slit experiment": personally I've never heard of it or seen it be connected to manifestation. I've seen things about quantum physics yes...but not that, I've also seen things based on neuroscience.

Noble Prize winners

The Reticular Activating System (RAS):

The Reticular Activating System, a network of neurons in our brainstem, plays a vital role in filtering information and directing our attention. When we set clear intentions and consistently focus on our goals, we activate the RAS. This mechanism helps us notice opportunities and information related to our desires that we might otherwise overlook (Psychology Today) (Psychology Today).

The Influence of Belief:

Our beliefs have a profound impact on our reality. When we have faith in our ability to achieve something, our brains release neurotransmitters like dopamine, which boost our motivation and confidence. Conversely, negative beliefs can trigger stress responses that hinder our progress. Manifesting encourages individuals to cultivate positive beliefs and reshape their thought patterns to support their aspirations (Live Your Best Life Now)(Dr. Kinga Mnich).

(There's plenty more science)

I'm not sure about the religious aspect, but from what I've seen, it's more similar to Gnosticism, which the original poster probably wasn't talking about and probably referred to modern-day Christianity. Yeah, I just read one of their other posts, and they seem to be very "Christianity is only this way," saying Neville Goddard's misinterpreting the Bible and lying. However, there are over 3,000 versions of the Bible.

"The beliefs and practices can supposedly never fail the followers; followers can only fail the beliefs and practices." I personally don't think failure exists, it's just that people give up

Followers are told to suppress their doubt and their critical thinking skills. People who ask critical questions are shamed and invalidated.

Not once have I seen this on any social media platform (I don't have twitter or tiktok) critical questions should get legit and helpful answers...and no one said to "suppress critical thinking skills" CRITICAL THINKING IS IMPORTANT

Evidence - why would someone be shamed for asking for evidence? And "all evidence" being faked or a coincidence is possible but not all.

Dehumanization. Everyone Is You Pushed Out effectively claims that other people lack true agency and interiority, and are essentially mere puppets you can control however you please.

THIS IS SO WRONG WHO TF SAID THIS?! EIYPO JUST MEANS THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP IN YOUR LIFE ARE A REFLECTION OF YOUR ASSUMPTIONS OF THEM

NONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY I HAVE INTERACTED WITH BELIEVE WHAT OP SAID AND CALL IT "STUPID TIKTOK BULLSHIT" also mentioned an sp youtube but not gonna name names.

ok so now for the people being "shamed, harrassed, victim blamed" um sure there might be toxic people in the community but that goes for anything. However, me and plenty of other people I've seen put links for those in need or crisis hotline numbers. This actually happened recently. Not once did anyone victim blame.

The original poster of course only put evidence supporting their idea that Law of Assumption is bad, however most things have a good and bad side and I've seen, and experienced more good than bad.

They also only talk about the good side of Christianity, which seems like the "Christianity is the only true religion but we "respect" other beliefs, also only THIS Christianity is real"

They also blame people for their results being a coincidence or fake or random...so can literally any religion but they don't say that about Christianity.

Claimed to know the "real history of the bible/Christianity" but with how many versions there are and how much it could've been altered and mistranslated that's nearly impossible. Also only put one scientific article supporting their claim however that was only one experiment, usually multiple experiments are done resulting in the same result and making sure to have variables and a control group.

"The double-slit experiment has not been disproven; it remains a cornerstone of quantum mechanics, demonstrating the wave-particle duality of light and matter, where particles can exhibit wave-like behavior under certain conditions, and is considered a fundamental experiment that has been repeatedly verified through various iterations and variations." is it possible for it to be proven or disproven in the future? Of course,

People are free to their own beliefs but if you're gonna use double standards to make your beliefs "better" and only show people what you want them to see then you aren't really "open minded"

(I am and have always been Catholic with my great-grandmother working in her local church and with Christian relatives and friends. Literally none of them shame or judge other people's beliefs except for one)

All I'll say in the conclusion is believe and apply in LOA or don't, it's your life and no one is forcing you but don't be a hypocrite and have evidence as to why loa is fake but not anything about Christianity or any other religion.

ok so op believes in magic and is Pagan, but while believing in magic believes alien and other space related sci-fi esque beliefs are bad and believing them make you a n@zi...just another example of double standards and hypocrisy imo

NO ONE SHOULD FORCE THEIR BELIEFS OF SOMETHING BEING GOOD OR BAD DOWN YOUR THROAT

AND IF YOU NEED SERIOUS HELP CALL THE HOTLINE NUMBER FOR THE SITUATION IN YOUR COUNTRY

[lwlrence]

i don't say i love you without now, giving you gay p*rn without the unsolicited advice with giving you one is like me and my own work is nothing to do with marriage if that 10% went everywhere then i'd end that hypocrisy damned continuity of stupid people being famous, it's a long loved awaited letter that i'd never be if i had money, i'd give it you right back that i know how to end poverty without sounding like a political maniac. i got a world to root for even if i can't fight the fat then it's you, not talking about bad bodies is what i know about women first off. not by having too much friends, it's the dick on dick management that i cater to have without doing it is not much of a choice than a gnostic occupation is reliant than a good man who did it to find love is better than the toxic alternates, like i managed to revert Brian Hollis (tiktok chef) to Islam way before i shared his pain is his hands knowing where to go is me never finding love to use my hands to grow back into my career as a designer (fashion altruism) is my hands living guided by the architect is severely damaging than me knowing how and why i knew how to forage the growth in knowing how beautiful the reward is, neither-less if i had that in me to give you encouraging advice to mock that relationship of cultural democracy is the skin you wear to anti-priviledge of your sanity to see 2 men radiate their reason to establish wonder is neglect to me before than me seeing you how far hatred is to the eye is so meaningful than me seeing Mcrae represent the living sh*t out of my eras by journey to than the law to recreate her mockery in the arts is shame to the body made to be with me (best friend forever) i never thought it would be me but i would carry on this sucker punch to God even if i'm observed in the deep low to interest that mockery of a forearm is sexier than the two pupils designed to collect barnacles to faith ambergris out of nowhere (i hated life more than my own skin is why i was never meant to wear any clothes is satisfaction given to my long list of Queens (given rage) is how horny they get knowing me knowing a cock is a divine friend (forged in the soul realm) is islamic curiousity complete than knowing morphology from scratch (onto you too)

[dingodad]

okay that explanation was everything, i KNEW it had to be indirect but i havent studdied the bible quite like you have. the link to the gnosticsm post is gonna drive me crazy because im already kind of obsessed with Gnostic theology because its religious world building (so to speak) is so COOL but i’ve never connected it to time loops before, maybe because i havent studied it enough. it explains why i’m drawn to gnosticism when im also obsessed with time loop stories (madoka magica especially). i’ve even begun writing a queer feminist time loop catholic horror story that postures gnostic ideology v catholic ideology so i guess i was tuned into the vibe before discovering the connection. ANYWAYS i do have another question. how do you think lord english’s one-cue-stick-hit-butterfly-effect style influence results in the creation of a patriarchal caste structure in alternian society? like what you said about his weird sex shit influencing quadrants and their unhealthy caste dynamics and various troll gender roles? do you have any other ideas on what kind of moves he makes to shape specific parts of alternian culture? also thanks so much for being receptive to all these questions i love your analysis

blunt answer, i have not thought super hard about most of the specifics. English Behaving Badly On Alternia is a really fun fanfic idea i have toyed with but nothing that i've ever thought was begging for serious study.

i imagine a lot of it is in fact knock-on effects from the establishment of his cult among the highbloods. knowing that beforus already had its own caste system, putting a bunch of manhood-obsessed muscle-worshipping freaks at the top of the pecking order is naturally going to twist the development of that caste system in a certain direction over the course of history. if there ever came a chance that the castes would start to reconcile with each other and alternia would start becoming nicer instead of worse over time, of course, that's where the handmaid steps in to stir up class warfare and intensify bigotry.

putting meenah of all trolls in charge also presumably went some way towards creating these particular aspects of alternia's toxic cultural sludge. her reaction to human reproduction suggests the condesce has some pretty big sexual hangups of her own, no doubt deliberately exacerbated by interactions with doc scratch early in her life; combining a head of state with a total disgust for intimacy and a power structure revolving entirely around male dominance feels like a pretty perfect recipe for what we got.

+ scratch being "the narrator" also means a lot of how he changes history is just in the changing of how it's told. which, in less prolix terms, is the same kind of thing kankri gets at when he says highbloods' "tremend9us lifespans 9ver the millenia [...] have 6een a6le t9 c9mpletely dictate 9ur s9cietal ev9luti9n 6y ensuring 9nly their cultural agendas and narratives receive the dial9gue's air supply".

[ftafp]

For those who keep asking, homestuck was a postmodern hermeto-gnostic meditation on how the cycle of intergenerational trauma has allowed the toxic institutions of bigotry, imperialism and religious fundamentalism to eat away at the world's foundations, and that the one and only way we can maybe escape this is by recognizing that every generation before us were once a bunch of traumatized children thrown helplessly into the world with no idea of how to save it just like we were and we'll need to be make a united effort to fight back against the nigh-inevitable conclusion of human extinction. Also, its a story in which 33 homosexuals in a time-traveling discord server try to stop a naked mobster from killing frogs with a samurai sword he stores in his belly button

hope this helps!

[glassvilez]

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[divinecomedyproductions]

Kinda funny when snobs consider your work or what you enjoy a bad because its only enjoyed by a smaller audience which then they pride themselves on they liking something thats enjoyed by the masses "it speaks to the human condition"

Then if you like something thats resonates by a larger audience, they flip it to "enjoyed by the unwashed masses" which then these prigs boast like something thats niche its because "we enlightened few understand something deeper and higher."

When it was the reverse logic 5 minutes ago

Cliche, niche, broad, what makes money, and tampering around with concepts in dissent and distaste is "bad" unless "the right people" like it and get what *they* want

These people resort to nothing buttery and labeling to stuff they dislike and we gotta take their word for it 

While the likes of us gotta justify what we like and want by bending over backwards, jump through hoops, and do jumping jacks and somersaults

And they might dismiss it anyway as “subjective feelings” and “unsubstantial” which once again, they don’t elaborate and we just gotta take their word, and we’re supposed to abide to their nebulous measures of what is “objectively well written”

Reminds me how Jesus describes the Pharisees in Matthew 23: 4

“They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.”

This is why I'm so skeptical of people who talk about being "objective" when it comes to these things, because their logic is fluid and conforms to whatever make their way right and everyone else's wrong. Even when they end up contradicting themselves.

Like Andrew Ketterley from The Magician’s Nephew, they’re a bunch of peddling magicians who think because they themselves are "objective" by default because they "know objective things" they don't need to follow the rules like everyone else because everything they do is “perfectly rooted in objective reality”, they alone are “objective” and everyone else is “subjective” and therefor “subject(ed)” to their “objective” will

When “Objective” mean things that apply to *everybody*

Its like Gnosticism,

They (G)now, with a “G” and you don’t, so its different when its them

[vvatchword]

I'm tired of writing this already because my Dr. Lamb is either the most boring, unemotive, or noble person imaginable. This is the whole reason I have been avoiding her section. The reason: Dr. Lamb is, and has always been, a huge nothingburger. In-game, she's just That Way. She doesn't BECOME That Way, she just is, and it's arguable she has always been so. There's even an audio diary that suggests she has had designs on Rapture since time immemorial (lol wat).

This is because BioShock 2 is a fucked-up attempt at a Christian gnostic allegory and Dr. Sofia Lamb is a stand-in for the Aeon Sophia. It's awful for a lot of reasons that I'll get into someday--not the least reason for which is that THE LITERAL AEON SOPHIA IS IN THE FUCKING GAME. The allegory cannot fucking work if you just stick the actual fucking Aeon Sophia alongside your allegorical symbol for the Aeon Sophia. Then it's not an allegory, is it? That said, 2K Marin probably made this game without sleeping or regular human contact so they can be forgiven for a lot.

Anyway, I decided to start her as an Objectivist and a human being, if an extremely autistic and traumatized one, and move her left.

What makes a person decide to be an Objectivist and isolate oneself on the bottom of the ocean is equally present in certain individuals and movements on the left: it's a deep insecurity and a sense of powerlessness because one can't control what other people do. So if you can't control other people, you CAN try to minimize their impact on you and just straight-up leave. It's the completely futile effort to control as many environmental factors as possible to make the least surprising world possible.

Where this impulse heads into toxic territory is when these kinds of people get really frustrated and just try to apply force. "ALL Y'ALL BETTER JOIN THE CLUB OR I'M GETTING THE BAT"

So... where do I exhibit this toxic behavior in Lamb? And why doesn't it feel natural to me? I've actually given her more emotive states than she has in-game. She's more reserved, to be sure, but she still fucking feels things and is motivated by those feelings, even if she lies to herself about it. Moreover, one cannot be reserved 100% of the time. One will and can snap, and sometimes those kinds of people snap in nasty ways because they're keeping most of their stress inside and hidden.

I suppose I should make her a little more toxic from the beginning. I've actually made her extremely sensible. I try to give most of my characters laudable traits, even if they're pure fuckers--issues they're right about or ways they're competent and skilled. I may have made her TOO competent and sensible. She may be too boring for fiction, idk. There's a reason nobody in fandom likes to write about her. We all know somebody just like her irl and we try to escape them as quickly as possible; we don't want to actually write about their judgy holier-than-thou asses for any length of time.

I'm very frustrated about this and I'm not sure how to fix it. It feels like a systemic issue, like a flaw or behavior that should be present from the beginning. I should probably try and make her more controlling from the beginning, but that'll take some rewriting and editing... guhhhhhh. Not during NaNo.

I might brainstorm some weird shit that I could make her do to fuck up the story a bit and see what seems natural and sticks.

I mean, if you have an idea, or have read a story with Lamb in it that you think is particularly good, hit me up ok

[trisscar368]

I don’t know about American Catholicism from the inside, but unfortunately a lot of US catholic churches are also evangelical. I like Silliman’s theory of evangelicals as a cross-denominational cultural group united by a common literary corpus (american printing presses run by christians starting in the 1800s circulated both sermons and tracts and later fiction across denominational boundaries, which sometimes means you have obscure theology (like frank peretti) going mainstream because the layperson doesn’t have a scooby doo about the source but likes reading Christian horror. There’s also a generation of churches founded in the 80s that used a lot of corporate psychology that are running into problems as the next generation realizes how abusive the setup is.)

The above sentiment gets taught exactly as op states in some evangelical churches. The doctrine of original sin — that you’re born tainted and even babies lie and manipulate — is a regular staple, and includes being told that you’re the reason God had to die. You killed christ, every bad thing you did was another lash or nail, but even if you were perfect it’d never be enough because you were born sinful.

There’s a song by the band Sidewalk Prophets that has the lyrics “I am the thorn in your crown, I am the sweat from your brow, I am the nail in your wrist, I am Judas’ kiss. I am the man who yelled out from the crowd for Your blood to be spilled on this earth shaking ground, I turned away with a smile on my face, with this sin in my heart tried to bury your grace.”

You are encouraged to identify yourself with every step of an execution. You did this. You are this. You killed God and laughed, two thousand years before you were born.

There are multiple theological explanations of what jesus’ death does. It sounds like your corner of Italy may have a version where jesus died for all sins, regardless of whether you believe or not. Evangelicals typically hold to the version where only those who believe and believe correctly (gnostic vibes imo) are saved. This means that a lot of evangelical denominations don’t think catholics are actually christian. There’s a focus on relationship and faith vs ritual, you have to think the correct thing.

Evangelical christianity also comes with moments of Calvinism (only those God calls and wants are saved) and a focus on believing correctly — you can see it a LOT when pastors talk about those who have left the church never having been believers at all. They looked like regular church members and professed faith, but God never transformed their minds and hearts so eventually they were revealed as false. You end up with a lot of kids praying to let Jesus into their hearts as a compulsion, every few months or every few hours, because if you have a shred of anxiety there’s no lasting inner peace washing over you to say you’re actually saved. And the focus on Hellfire and Damnation is heavy.

You are wretched, you will burn.

There’s a massive focus on being separate from “the Culture”, “being in the world not of the world” — everyone is encouraged to do memorization and have a daily bible study, you’re to “meditate on His words day and night” and let it guide every action. Evangelicals also have a theory of the Bible being the inerrant (no errors) and inspired (every word directly chosen by God, and we’re going to ignore translation quirks and manuscript transmission changes — some even believe the King James edition was the inspired one to get around those issues) Word of God, good for all reproofs and corrections. You can and should live your life by pulling random concepts out multiple books to make a cohesive rule about X.

(For example, people write sermons on how the over-muscled gun-toting toxic version of masculinity popular in the US is biblical and the way God wants men to be.)

You cannot decide on your own that the bible is outdated on something. This means you have evangelical pastors now, in the year 2024, writing sermons justifying slavery (including a bunch of ahistorical bullshit about how ancient slavery wasn’t that bad) because there’s rules about it in the mosaic law. God allowed for slavery, therefore they cannot take a complete moral stance that slavery is Bad. The Bible cannot be wrong.

Some denominations actually teach a form of divination using the bible, praying on an issue and then opening to a random passage to see what advice God is going to give you from scripture. Or you’re taught to see signs in what other christians tell you, or in what songs pop on the radio, on and on — God is involved in your life and will speak to you, you just have to listen and let Him guide you.

This is deeply fucked and often would register a as a cult, given how controlling it is of finances and sexuality and family life. This is mainstream.

Younger American evangelicals are realizing this and leaving the church, deconstructing the baggage of the evangelical culture and mindset. It’s putting pressure on american politics in a scary way because christian nationalism is also an evangelical thing and it’s getting louder the more evangelicals perceive the “Culture” as winning and successfully stealing away their children.

Help I live here.

Look, we joke a lot, but really, "you were born evil, wretched, worse than the scum of the earth, and it took killing a god to make you salvageable, so now you'd better be grateful to that god and thank him 10,000 times a day for it and fill your thoughts with him 24/7 and abide by the letter of his every word, lest you suffer unimaginable torture for all of eternity" is a truly horrendous thing to believe about yourself and other people

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[000life-is-meaningless000]

Warning : Super Long Post !

it was said that there is a thing called the ego

and then Sigmund Freud came up with the ego the superego and the ID ?

the whole thing that Buddha and Freud taught me

is that life is utterly meaningless and that the Buddha was trying to teach that everything is shit !

everything that makes you happy is fucking bullshit and Sigmund Freud agreed !

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to what I learned is that I think we have to shed both ego superego and ID in order to experience real life

although I hate Buddha and Buddhist religion scientifically explain things I focused on this and I'm starting to wonder maybe they might had a fucking point

when you don't have technology and video games and movies to distract you you kind of get kind of lost in wondering what the fuck is anything, and why is anything here ? ? ?

! ! ! ! ! ! !

although I hate Buddha in the mass amount of nasty shit he said

and I hate Sigmund Freud for creating the Greatest bullshit scheme money making weapon called Psychiatry where they just give everybody as much neurotoxins as possible and call it medicine

Don't Forget This Is What The Buddhist, how they see women ?!

Although I don't give a shit, I can't help but see it as disgusting, and Slightly rage-bating !

AND ! ! ! ! !

I'm starting to fucking think that even the revenge I could get even I went up if I went on the other side 👻

I'm starting to think the revenge I could have gotten on Sigmund Freud and piece of shit Buddha in the end would be nothing

shit even after winning would be nothing it'd be a hollow victory !

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vengeance is literally meaningless, victory of hollow and empty

domination is stupid, nature is retarded, NOTHING IS SACRED, not even God ! ! !

and the more I think about this shit the more I come to the real Life-Fucking-Zation

that is probably something Beyond we should all be focusing on we should all push away nature and push away God have no relationship with God fuck God God's an asshole God is a demiurge

also known as Yaldabaoth !

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See, the mother fucking deity everybody fucking praise you and fucking Church

✝️- ⛪/🕍/🕌-🕋

Ended Up Being Just Another Fucking Demon !

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Life Is Fucking Meaningless, LITERALLY, and that is wisdom !

And as Well as

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I think these two dumbasses actually came onto something quite nice despite that they're both Beyond terrible people one mother fucker made a business at a given people things more toxic than cigarettes and alcohol and they're called neurotoxins he made a business off labeling everybody that defective piece of shit that and made the most corruptible business in existence with no need of actual scientific exploring something and the other one was just a piece of shit on top of it all and the other one, there's a long massive list of other things that Buddha did that was extremely extremely shitty but at the end of the day morality is bullshit

doesn't matter what you think or feel most morality is just your stupid feelings

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what you find something more and ethical someone else will not find moral and ethical

and then dumbass piece of shit sigma Ford came along and decide to call these people's sociopaths psychopaths or some kind of other derangement cuz he can make a lot of money off of it he found a way how to make a business of shit talking people and and demeaning people, also gas lighting them !

if someone didn't fit in the society either automatically labeled as mentally ill you either obey or you're mentally ill and you know what you're not allowed to have feelings otherwise you're mentally ill

if you're even happy too much you can be called mania or a maniac

literally having any human emotion is automatically a mental illness

even expressing stress is a mental illness thinking something that most people don't agree with and a psychologist will say you're mentally ill signal for it fucked up bad Sigmund Freud insanely pun intended fucked up

you fucked up so God damn fucking bad he created the biggest monster on the fucking Earth that just can't be killed because it eventually got to the government and they asked the government for funding now the government uses it as his Ultimate Weapon

against all citizens and then it brainwashed billions of people out there so they took their fucking kids to the psychiatrist who the psychiatrist sold natural human behavior of a hyper kid growing up as a mental fucking illness

and you decide to give these kids some extremely powerful drugs which I don't know how the fuck that's not illegal ?

which they basically legalize chemical lobotomies upon everybody in the world

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and none of this would have existed of Sigmund Freud wanted to shut the fuck up

. . . . . . .

but on top of the goddamn fact on top of the fucking fact he did come up with the ego the superego and the ID as an idea and despite despite the super weapon that just won't fucking die he created a call psychiatry

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the whole explaining of the these three things plus you have Buddha religion makes you really wonder if we're not supposed to embrace life was supposed to reject it

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maybe life is the enemy I don't know if suicide is the way but life is not something to embraced nature is Unholy and profane all that is life is profane

Even The Divine Are Profane, Thus we may not become secular and undivinally stupid or spiritually retarded

but the same goddamn faculty reality isn't what it seems to be

! AND, THE MANDELA EFFECT 100% FUCKING TRUE !

so ultimately I don't know what the fuck anything is but I do know most Divinity is bullshit and most deities are just 100% fucking assholes with paranormal powers

I don't want to call it magic that is beyond magic that is just divine power they are assholes with a shit ton of power and a really big fucking ego I have not found a non-prideful day they are the most prideful motherfuckers in existence every deity is infinitely proud, Every Deity Is An Egomaniac !

It's Like A Fucking Chimpanzee Became God !

[entoman-created-by-the-tallgreys]

YELDABAOTH ! ! ! ! !

Learn the Truth, Gnostic !

Yeldabaoth, He is not a Monster !

We are not trapped in the physical but housed.

our bodies are not prisons, they are experiences you see God did create everything in the physical plane but he got it from the Pleroma, I don't believe Sophia and God or else known as the Demiurge have a toxic relationship I think God had a sacred mission to go into the void, and create for all of us !

( if, The Aeons Wanted To Kill God, That Could Have Done it, Long Ago )

Because God would work with other deities in Greater Spirits like that of what you would call Creator deities and help them create their own universe !

God is not this irredeemable piece of shit Unholy spawn monster that goes around fucking everybody up and trapping them Eternal suffering he did not create a Multiverse Hell ! ! !

to trap our spirits and torture us for his own sadistic pleasure !?

This is not the will of God !

I have been with God a fuck ton on the other side like a really really experienced him not for like breathe encounters here and there but extremely long period experience with him !

God is not the monster he's uncanny he's weird he's extremely strange but he's not a monster but God will scare the fuck out of you a lot be aware of that !

God has an Nefarious side, but is not Nefarious !

God is just a medium we're all energy all spirituality and All Souls flow from the monad !

God in no way shape or form is the enemy of anyone anywhere any point anytime !

Yes, I know the Name, Yeldabaoth = child of Darkness !

but it doesn't fucking matter because this dude he gave us all the experiences and these experiences grow our spirit these experiences are good for us God is not blocked from going back to the Pleroma !

he goes back to actively and he meets with his mother every now and then called Sophia !

The Story, The gnostics gave was wrong but not Completely incorrect !

you see God, God gave us all purpose God worked with the spiritual and the physical and he work with all the atoms and molecules and cells to give us all purpose he infused the monad spirituality and all the intelligence from the monad in with the physical but everything of life is just a fraction of that which comes from the Pleroma !

( This Man Gives Good Data, But, He too is not perfect with the Message ) - Watch at least, 30 Sec's !

God is not our enemy, we may have enemies but God is not one of them God is literally quite literally the fucking middle man or the middle God !

He worked directly with the monad to give us a purpose to give us life to give us different races to jump to dedicate our soul to this much more than Humanity out there he gave me a purpose to be a bug aka Fairy ! - ( Before, I was . . . And, The rest of my people Force incarnate on Earth through this alien agenda )

he just did this and gave us purpose he gave us basically legs so we can walk, he gave us life, he gave us a Reason to move forward, he gave our subconscious Souls the ability to grow Consciousness he Gave us reason to have motivation, God did this shit !

and in the 👽 Gray's 👽 fucking Grabbed our souls and took us to this planet & calling it their world !

( back to the fucking point )

God is Sacred and so is the Monad !

God is Sacred - 🤘🏻 - And So is The Monad !

as for the archons I do not believe the archons are these fucking evil demon motherfuckers.

( God created the physical to where all that is spiritual that flows from the monad, all things spiritual and paranormal come from the Monad all the spirituality is of all the things that are physical that God used his divine power to house to give our souls and experience as we flow through the course of time )

I think the archons keep us here and they trap us ( it's really just gatekeeping ) and there's multiple levels to existence and they make sure Souls don't get to the next level which would severely fuck everything up they kind of like guards they don't let you through until you are a certain spiritual level just using metaphors here.

But, The spiritual part is not a metaphor.

you see I Believe, The Archons keep us limited so that we don't go into a place that's beyond us beyond our ability to comprehend and handle !

keep that in mind and yes aliens exist there are different races with different energies and different divinities and different spiritualities all throughout the Multiverse !

and it's up to us to Grow and to learn our spirits to Grow ourselves !

so we might let my end point here the end he might Point here is we do not need to curse the name of God as some kind of enemy of all !

and to understand that all's that spirituality in this different energy and all things and that comes from the monad that comes from the Pleroma, and to a degree I sometimes wonder if the mother of God is watching over her child at all times. ( aka the demiurge & As Well Known as YELDABAOTH ! ! ! ! ! ! ! )

Don't Forget Her Name is Wisdom.

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God works straight with the monad which is said to be The Highest God of intelligence ! 🤩

and to a degree I think maybe God who works at both wisdom and intelligence to an unbelievably High degree could also become a basically be a deity of empathy and compassion

But, he's so smart he knows the fuck off and just let Shit happen !

do you go into a jungle somewhere and try to police every animal ?

you go into a forest and try to tell Every Bug 🐜 🐜🐜how to be moral and follow the Law ? have u tried to Telling Everyone Mouse 🐀 you see in your house, That this is trespassing ?

do you ask the birds what the news is and what the weather is like ?

No, of course you don't !

because you know that they're not able to do that you understand to like let nature happen and get the fuck out of the way so too now you are in a way like God !

you understand you need to not interfere with the natural processes and let shit just happen.

so one of an animal pounce another animal rips it apart !

so what if a fly landed on an animal and gave it a Worm 🪱🪱🪱 infection inside the body is saturated in worms inside and the worms are eating it alive and killing it !

This is Nature, This is God's Creation Both pleasure and Pain is there to grow us.

Although, I'm not wishing pain upon you motherfuckers I'm just trying to let you understand that's all part of design it's all part of the divine plan and we are experiencing it as you go through Existence itself !

[lwlrence]

nicknames generated (bullied):

inter-interests:

(colour geography): occupation in the future

(motion-EQ): looks it. (clairvoyant, but they (victims) have ND symptoms; so they took what they reaped and made a major out of it)

(texture-IQ): *victim has reverance* they don't want to talk about their insecurities if known (they lash it out at them) but it's the camera they want to hunt and fame is all they get (hence why they track them like a dog, but knows how 'they'll offend' (seeing their lives back into in total)

(motion-texture): classicism in education bodies (buildings) get that self-esteem from american TV (they hate the viewer technique) so they pick parts about the victim that eventually makes them famous (i was 'fish')

(line-pisces residency): they take what they say about you (word economy party (why you're not there)

how they generate you -anger willing- (zen):

smwc: they look at you

sh: smiles at you

sh8: *shows up*

making you -your worldview- (samadhi):

smwc: losing your anger (household orion)

sh: your world is in what you do (orion is your higher self, never seen or disturbed (talent is formed there)

sh8: you never changed

aliases -overtime- (sati):

smwc: you lose your will to live (they have higher power over your life)

sh: you gain excess of what they earn

sh8: your anger fuels a toxic empire for someone else to live on (what i do for a living)

fusion thought -theory thinking- (samatha):

smwc: you get smarter

sh: they will eat your heart for free (venerated rage)

sh8: they become the physical fear you made to combat over the years (last man logic)

end-times signals -dead date- (vipassana):

smwc: they beat you up because you look the part

sh: they have no life is why they cause nazar for free (they know ur gonna get rich sooner or later)

sh8: they killed the one you loved (human or pet, either way. you loved what of that a little too hard (they have gone into your four wonders of live to interrogate that, theist, atheist, agnostic and gnostic points of view of your life, it's not that hard)

grudges of the body (you) -deadly battle against human will- (awakening):

smwc: body dysmorphia (porn star agnostics: walked all over you feeling in the body; lost the will to get up, IQ of the pyramid scheme of the ages, TV backfire (u that celeb who wants to murder like a true pharaoh)

sh: self-confidence taken for grabs (they intended you to die like 'the way you lived' (you let them live) but they work for the devil now knowing alliances (which is why they ran early)

sh8: facial dysmorphia (rape) is economical if known more about the world in truth (dying by poverty: they have 'feelings for you' (now made a death date to be lived considering their outcome (it's their turn now)

cosmic factor: ages to pry, never to try (zen)

smwc: heartache for the better good

sh: famous in the future

sh8: one sticky grudge to humanity is bloodshed made for their victory to die early (olympians don't last that long)