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I miss you Imperial Trio...
#my art#jason grace#reyna avila ramirez arellano#octavian pjo#pjo#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus#digital art#fanart#imperial trio
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I personally think it's Lucius because it would be ironic that he tried to stab his own father but oh well...(Also Lucius means 'light' so that's another factor)
I'm so unwell about them someone Help me please
Ignore my ranting in the tags
#➴᧔ spirit yaps ᧓➶#trials of apollo#lester papadopoulos#pjo hoo toa#lucius pjo#is that even a tag#idk I guess#toa#I'm pretty sure it's already confirmed that Cassius is a child of Zeus tho?#like he's described as looking like Jason many times#soooo#Gods I think about them everyday#Also Marcus? I'm pretty sure he was described as looking like If Nico was raised by jackals#which might suggest that he was a Hades kid#its sad that he was murdered tho#Dont know about Aemilia tho#I hc her as a child of Athena#or an ex hunter of Artemis that was taken in by Nero#its probably just me tho#percy jackson#pjo#meg mccaffrey#Wait is Marcus even a demigod#Nevermind#Nero's Imperial Household
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Some More Random Worldbuilding for PJO, this time, Mythic Metals
*Note: this refers specifically to metals that Greek and Roman demigods can use. I'm not including other pantheons*
*Most common in this sense refers to most commonly used by demigods*
So we, of course, have the canon Stygian Iron, Celestial Bronze, and Imperial Gold, but in addition, we also get Adamantine, Orichalum, Artemisian Silver, and Apolloin Gold.
Starting off with more facts about the basic metals (ones known in the series):
Celestial Bronze: most common mythical metal. Primarily used by Greek demigods, however anyone within the two pantheons can use a celestial bronze weapon. Can't kill mortals.
Imperial Gold: equally as common as Celestial Bronze, only "rarer" among demigods because Roman Gods are the ones who control the mining and usage of the metal, and these gods are stricter regarding privledge to use the metal. Primarily used by Romans, however anyone within the two pantheons can use a imperial gold weapon. Can't kill mortals.
Stygian Iron: third most common mythical metal. However, stygian iron can only be used by chthonic demigods, gods, and other underworldly creatures. If stygian iron is used by non-chthonic demigods, it weakens their life source and can take years from them. If used by a non-chthonic god, their powers are weakened for many years. Stygian iron cannot be used by mortals-- it kills them near instantaneously. Stygian iron can kill mortals.
Now into my own ideas:
Orichalum: tied with Stygian iron for third most common mythical metal. Mined in Atlantis, orichalum, like stygian iron, cannot be used by all beings. Instead, orichalum can only be used by aquatic gods, demigods, and creatures. In this sense, aquatic refers to both the ocean (Poseidon, Oceanus, the Nereids, etc), but also all other bodies of waters like lakes and rivers (river gods, nymphs, Naiads). Riptide is not actually made of celestial bronze, it is made of orichalum. It's effects on non-aquatics are similar to that of stygian iron. Orichalum cannot kill mortals. Sort of bronze-ish looking.
Apolloin Gold: the fifth most common metal. This can only come directly from Apollo or Helios, as the metal is quite literally ored from the sun. Technically Eos and Hemera can also give it out, but they have many fewer connections with mortals. As such, should it be one of the rarer metals? Yes. It's more common than it's parallel, however, because Apollo used to hand the metal out quite frequently-- to mortals who impressed him, his lovers, his children, and the metal just made it's way into other people's hands. Can be used by anyone. Cannot kill mortals.
Artemisian Silver: the sixth most common element-- or second rarest. Artemisian Silver can only come from Artemis, Selene, or Hecate. As Artemis is the main goddess of the moon at this point, artemisian silver most closely represents her other domains, and as such can only be used by girls and women, *except in cases of Hecate's boy children or those blessed by Artemis*. Artemisian silver can harm werewolves, which is where the silver werewolf stereotype came from, and why Reyna's pocket knife, although silver, did not work. Cannot kill mortals.
Adamantine: rarest of all. This metal is most closely guarded by the gods, and only a few known weapons remain in demigod weaponries. Bright, almost blinding white, the metal looks like a cross between diamonds and silver. Completely unbreakable, and cannot be bent or harmed in any way after being forged. The only demigods who can use adamantine are children of the Kronides and Aphrodite (eldest gods), although even many of these demigods have to dilute it to use the metal. It burns through other demigods and mortals until their hands are ash if they touch it. The full olympian council must decide to give any demigod an adamantine weapon. It can hurt mortals.
There's also, of course, Drakon bone, although that's not technically a metal. Drakon bone is the only well known bone weapon in the series, however, divine bone from any being can be forged into a weapon that can kill monsters. Has to come from a spoil of war, as the being will dissolved if killed, and as such, is never seen outside of Tartarus, with the exception of Annabeth's sword.
The titans also had their own metal, similar to adamantine. Some call the metal Everlasting. Rarely known, never wielded anymore.
#pjo hoo toa#riordanverse#pjo#pjo fandom#pjo series#celestial bronze#imperial gold#stygian iron#fanfiction#headcanon#headcanons#pjo headcanon#percy jackon and the olympians#heros of olympus#percy jackson#pjo worldbuilding
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Did Nero homeschool each of the Imperial demigods or do half of them just.. Not know how to read. Because last I checked he had 12-20 8-18 yr olds up in there. And they stay for a presumably long time.
Because on one hand, I can imagine that a guy raising child soldiers wouldn't really care for them to know calculus, but on the other, I can imagine him wanting them to be smart for bragging purposes.
I also imagine he wouldn't want them at public school, much less let's them outside during the day. Did Lugeswela and Meg's father teach her how to read? Does Lester ever forget that his servant probably hasn't had any education past the third grade? Do these kids know pop culture? Were they exposed to sunlight at all? What were they fed??? MEG PLEASE TELL US
#toa#pjo headcanon#nero#tower of nero#lester papadopoulos#meg mccaffrey#imperial demigods#angst potential???
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Do you think that where the triumvirs are geographically would affect what kinds of demigods end up being drafted into their households? Like, Nero might have a higher number of Greek demigods due to his vicinity to Camp Half-Blood, Caligula might have more Roman demigods due to being so close to Camp Jupiter, and Commodus has a mixture of both since he's directly in the middle of both of them.
I know that demigods come from all over the place but it makes sense to me how while they're headed in one direction or the other they might end up getting caught up into them on the way there.
#toa#trials of apollo#triumvirate holdings#toa nero#toa commodus#toa caligula#just a random thought I had#I don't necessarily know the process behind how they gathered demigods into the imperial households#if they just kind of yoinked them off the street or something like that#idk#Also do these imperial demigods know who their godly parent is? and if they do how?#Meg knows because she was claimed in camp but what about the others who never made it to either camp?#is there some kind of a system in place or what?#Something to think about I guess#Or do they just grab random kids off the streets and hope for the best
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Jason Grace is like a combination of Namor and Superman. He's got the optimism and that sense of hopefulness to him, like Superman. But he's got all the roman influences of namor. I mean…namor at his most noble and regal sort of reminds me of jason. A little different, but I can make comparisons. Namor really would've blended in with Camp Jupiter, with all his fine regal might and standing.
#I really think namor belongs with camp jupiter#he's got all those cool roman qualities#even his name backwards is roman!#he is clearly a true son of neptune!#imperious rex#jason grace#superman#clark kent#namor#namor the sub mariner#namor mckenzie#sub mariner#the sub mariner#camp jupiter#percy jackson#marvel#dc#dc comics#pjo hoo toa
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DARE I SAY MEG MCCAFFERY
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Okay but why did Meg get to keep her name while all the other kids in Nero’s household got Roman ones? Is it because she’s the favorite?
#Rick I don’t think you thought this one through😭😭#toa#the trials of apollo#Nero’s imperial household#meg mcaffery
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The Metal Men comics actually back this up. Iron and Lead are used as the tough metals. Gold's whole thing is that he's really ductile, and capable of stretching himself out over long distances. Also, the book taught me the word ductile. And that gold is so flexible. I always thought gold would be hard, based on how things like gold bars and stuff look. But no. Apparently it's one of the most flexible metals. So that's kind of interesting.
Totally random but, other than because it’s a well-known metal that sounds flashy, I’ll never understand why Rick Riordan decided the roman demigods would use golden weapons. I get that it’s “reinforced by the gods” or whatever his explanation was, but gold??? That’s such an awful metal to make a weapon fully out of???? Especially considering that flamethrowers and Leo exist.
Like, gold is ridiculously heavy for its size, and it’s got a super low melting point compared to most metals, and you can bend gold super easily in comparison to most metals. Overall, it’s an awful metal for a weapon.
A gold dagger might be okay-ish in comparison to a gold sword but, either way, it’s just not worth it? It’d probably be expensive because gold can be pretty expensive, while also being much worse than most similar weapons that are made of different metals???
Also, from what I’ve read, the real life Romans didn’t even really use gold for weapons!
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i saw ur requests are open and i got excited 😵
would u be willing to write a jason grace x apollo!reader one shot? specifically one that’s kinda angsty but has a happy ending?? maybe the reader gets really hurt on a quest with Jason and he’s genuinely scared but she ends up being okay in the end? i’m not sure what other details but i’d love to see what you do with this (if you want!!!)
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we’ll be a fine line, we’ll be alright.
content: jason grace x apollo!reader
warning: bad BAD writing, angst but then it’s fluff, blood, almost dying experience, octavian’s still alive, cursing, post Blood of Olympus
a/n: hello! this is my first request and i wanted to post it before the other stuff i’m working on (especially cause i can’t finish any of the shit i’m working on). this is kind of fast paced but don’t blame me, it’s 12am in brazil right now so.. yea. also, i kinda diverted from the whole hurt in quest thing, i’m sorry! i didn’t have enough ideas for a whole quest. but i hope you enjoy! oh and this is placed after the first book of TOA
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Sure, a heartbreak did hurt. But have you been stabbed by Imperial Gold? Dude. Brotha.
Sure, it was a normal thing for you to argue with Octavian. Hell, it was. normal thing for everyone who’s sane to do. This scrawny boy was just… a piece of shit. Yeah. And the worst part? You’re related. He’s one of the “legacies”, whatever that is. That stupid roman dipshit.
And today was no different. You two were arguing about some trivial shit, as always, but things escalated quickly. Soon you two were sparring (how was a mystery, since you didn’t even know that thing knew how to hold a sword) and it was quite fun.
You see, you got to camp Half-Blood when you were just seven. Since then you’ve been trained all year, since you didn’t have any other family - besides the godly side of it, duh - and Octavian was… well, Octavian. You were much better than him.
The whole problem is that Octavian likes to play dirty. So eventually he makes you trip and fall and he leaves gashes around your arms and legs. But with imperial gold it was sort of painful.
Till one of those times came again, but this time he didn’t leave a gash or a scratch. He stabbed you right in your stomach.
“Oh, gods!” He said, with fake concern. “I’m so sorry, cousin! My bad. I should go looking for your boyfriend, right? But… i didn’t see nothing. Bye!” The blond said with a devilish grin and left.
You knew you needed help. You were applying pressure to the wound, trying to use your healing powers to at least slow down the bleeding.
You tried to get up to look for help, but it was almost impossible. Even with that, you had to. ‘Oh, come on,’ you thought, ‘i’ve faced Kronos, Gaea and Annabeth mad at me. I’m not gonna die for a stupid legacy.’
And that’s exactly what made you move your body towards the via principalis, where you knew someone was gonna help you.
When you got there, the first person you saw was - thanks the gods -, Reyna. When the praetor looked at you, her face was horrified.
“y/n? What-“ She began, but you cut her off.
“I-i’ll explain later. Just… medical cabin. Please.” You begged, your words barely above a whisper.
Reyna nodded and helped you lean on her for support, as she walked you towards the medical cabin. You didn’t know the name of the boy who was currently there, but he looked as horrified as Reyna.
“Oh gods. Oh, my gods.” The boy said and you smiled, trying to fight back the urge to pass out.
“Ha, thanks. I thought it was bad.” You half joked as Reyna and the unkown boy put you on a vacant stretcher. When you were laid down, you looked up at Reyna with pleading eyes. “Bring Jason here, please?”
“Of course. I’ll go find him. The brunette said and left the medical cabin.
“Ok. uh… care to tell what happened with you?” The boy asked and you turned your gaze back to him.
“Got stabbed by imperial gold. What’s your name?” She asked, but the look in the boy’s face didn’t seemed to register the question.
“My gods… i’ll do my best to help you.” He said and grabbed a bottle of nectar, pouring it to your mouth. “Ok, i need to-“
Before he could finish, a certain blonde boy barges past the doors, looking around the medical cabin, desperately trying to find you.
When his gaze fell into you, he rushed to your side, grabbing your hand. His eyes were glossy behind his glasses and she knew he already wanted to cry.
“Y/n, what…? What happened? Are you okay? Who did this?” He asked, and she tried to laugh, but the pain was becoming unbearable. You couldn’t even talk anymore, as the only thing that came out of your mouth was a whiny breath. “It’s okay, i’m here with you, hm? I won’t leave.”
He kissed your forehead and you squeezed his hand softly just before you felt a tear fall in your cheek. That was the last thing you heard or saw before passing out.
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Jason is desperate. He’s beyond worried about you.
He knows what imperial gold does to someone. Gods, he was stabbed by imperial gold before. And if she wasn’t treated in the right way… he didn’t even want to think about it.
But other than that, he needed to know who did this. He was going to kill this person with his bare hands.
It had been two days since you blacked out and you hadn’t woken up yet. He was starting to get even more worried, but he hadn’t left your side for one second. You couldn’t even go back to Camp Half-Blood (obvi), so your closest friends and family came to visit.
Will had cried his eyes out when he saw her there. Nico had to comfort him as his pupils leaked salty water. Lester/Apollo was back from his quest with Meg, and he also came to visit his daughter. The man was very… emotional, let’s say that.
But on the third day you were finally beginning to wake up. Of course, Jason was there.
“Hey, honey… you’re back, hm?” He asked, caressing you hair as you smiled, trying to reassure him. It still hurt as hell, but it could be worse. You could be dead.
“Hey…” She mumbled, her voice a little smudgy. “How long was it out?”
“A few days. But you’re back now, that’s what matters the most.” He said as he gave you a soft kiss on the lips. It was no tongue, just affection. He was showing you he was there for you.
“I feel fine. Like, not fine, but definitely better.” She said, as she pulled away from him.
“Yeah, i imagined. But, baby, i need you to tell me something.” Jason said, still holding your hand softly.
You nodded, waiting for him to elaborate.
“Who did this to you?” He asked, and you felt him squeezing your hand tighter. His voice was also harsher, as if he was restraining himself from killing someone.
“It was… it was Octavian.” She said, in a whisper-like tone. His face hardened immediately as he got up and went to the boy that was standing at the door.
“I need you to call Reyna and Frank. Tell them it’s an emergency.” He said and the boy quickly left.
Jason rushed back to your side. “I swear i’m gonna kill that son of a bitch.” He muttered.
When you were about to answer, Reyna and Frank rushed past the door, both looking worried. Behind Frank, there were a few other people - Will, Nico, Hazel, Annabeth, Piper, Leo and Percy -, all looking worried.
“You’re alive!” Will shouted and rushed to your side, tears welling up his eyes again.
“What, you thought that a little stab was going to kill me? Please.” She scoffed and Will laughed.
“So, who did this?” Reyna asked, also going to your side and stroking your shoulder softly.
“The most stupid, idiotic, son of a bitch augur that we ever had.” Jason said through gritted teeth.
“Octavian did that? I knew he was annoying, but at this level?” Percy asked, his face contorted in a mix of anger and disbelief.
“Mhm. We were sparring but… he likes to play dirty, i guess.”
“I’m gonna murder him.” Will groaned.
“Get in line.” Jason, Percy and Nico said at the same time.
You chuckled a bit, even if it hurt. Cause you knew, with that family right there, everything was gonna be fine.
a/n pt2: so… i like it but i don’t but i do. u get that? yea. i don’t know, i think i could do better, but i kinda liked it. I was going to make octavian’s trial and all but it would be too fucking long, so i gave up. that’s it for today, sorry that it took so long!
#postcards from leah#jason grace x reader#jason grace#heroes of olympus#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus x reader#percy jackson#jason grace x you#jason grace x y/n
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Nero's Imperial Household HCS
⚠️ Anything about the Gods that are written about here refers specifically to the RRverse. I am in no way talking about the actual deities themselves.
• Son of Hermes
- I'm calling him Dolios for now because it's an epithet of Hermes and it makes it easier to remember him.
- Son of Hermes, either one of the athletic epithets or the Psychopomp epithets.
- About 18 years old? Honestly what even was the age limit of Nero's stepchildren?
- Ok so I'm still confused as to what his powers would be but I'm leaning into the psychopomp side of Hermes. Although I'm also leaning on him being stronger than the average person because there's no way Nero didn't teach his step children to defend themselves without using their powers (Also Hermes is the god of Athletes sooo)
- I headcanon the Hermes kid as the oldest, partially because I don't know who else to make the oldest stepchild of Nero, and partly because I have a feeling that Nero would make the "calmer" cabins (AKA Cabin 11 and Cabin 7) really really feral just so he can showcase his strength in a "Hey I made the kids from the calmer cabins really feral HAHA IMAGINE WHAT I CAN DO" kind of way and also because he's an asshole and can't let kids be kids. Also because Nero's a furry.
• Nero definitely gave all of his stepchildren jewellery that represented their godly parent btw. I headcanon Dolios to have something like this.
Because why not? (And no this is not an excuse to show literally every piece of jewellery I have saved in my pinterest board) Meg has half-moon shaped rings that turn to scimitars but I have no idea what weapon these earrings would turn to so if y'all have any ideas tell me!!
• Lucius
- Nero really wanted the entire world to know who his step childrens' godly parent was huh 😭 Anyways onto his character!
- Son of Apollo, specifically Apollo Nomios.
- 16 to 17 years old (probably).
- LISTEN. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T CHILDREN OF APOLLO WHO HAVE SHEPHERDS AS THEIR MORTAL PARENT. HOW DARE RICK FORGET ABOUT BRANCHUS MY BABY. Anyways in my head Lucius's mortal father was a shepherd which is how he attracted Apollo. Again, I'm not sure what powers he would have but he definitely knows how to fight (because like I said, there's no way Nero didn't teach his stepchildren to defend themselves without using their powers). Also he can talk to ravens. And crows. And sheep. Because how come Percy is the only one that can talk to his father's sacred animals? That's unfair!
- I'm pretty sure he is one of the oldest demigods in Nero's Imperial Household? In my mind he's the second oldest out of them all.
• His jewellery is probably something like this bracelet.
It turns into a Gladiator btw. Not sure how that works but then again we have no idea how Meg's rings work either so yeah.
Also a bow and arrow seemed way too basic to me. Like may the Gods forbid that their children use anything other than the ones their godly parents use.
• Aemilia
- At first I got really confused over what godly parent she could have but then I searched up the meaning of her name and.... yeah.
- Daughter of Athena, not sure which epithet tho.
- Same age as Lucius, about 17 years old.
- Oh gods I know damn well that Nero made this girl suffer. Like you already have people having high expectations about Athena kids and then your step parent is NERO. Like this girl was probably given some big ass sum to solve at the age of 7 or something ( WISDOM IS NOT THE SAME AS KNOWLEDGE NERO). Oh my poor little girl. We know next to nothing about her but I'm gonna make her and Lucius my pookies.
- Either the third oldest stepchild in Nero's Imperial Household or the same age as Lucius.
- Not sure what jewellery Nero would give her tho. An owl necklace? Something that looks like this?
What weapon could this even turn into? A shield maybe? Y'know the thing with Medusa? (RR messed up her myth so bad in PJO that now I'm confused as to whether it's following the Greek or Roman myth).
• Hunter of Artemis
- I have absolutely no hcs about her whatsoever because I'm still confused as to who her godly parent could be. Like we know that Meg is supposed to replace Demeter which means that his other stepchildren are also mostly the children of the god they're supposed to replace.
- Still, I'm gonna have to make her a daughter of Diomedes and an ex hunter of Artemis otherwise I don't know how it'll work. I'm not sure about her name either.
- Younger than Aemilia and Lucius by a year or two, so that makes her 15 to 16 years old.
- She and Lucius are probably always paired together since Artemis & Apollo are twins. I'm not sure what power I want to give her so I'd love to know what you guys want her powers to be!
- Third oldest stepchild of Nero.
- Her jewellery turns into a bow and arrow because that's usually the weapon that the Hunters of Artemis use. I HC it to look something like these two.
How would this turn into a bow and arrow you ask? I have no idea!
These are only for the four oldest demigods, if you guys want I'll make one for the others too! (I've basically divided it into 3 parts, there are 4 children in each group and the groups are -Oldest, Middle and Youngest, the same way Apollo divided them)
Tagging- @actual-gremlin @arihuntress @humburgercheeseburger @sahebro-apollosangel @lesbianbanana @whats-a-lester @please-be-nice-im-sensitive me if any of you want me to remove you next time!
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I'd really appreciate it if y'all actually read it tho....
Please don't let this flop I beg you pls
#➴᧔ spirit yaps ᧓➶#trials of apollo#toa#lester papadopoulos#pjo hoo toa#pjo#Nero's Imperial Household#the tower of nero#tower of nero#the dark prophecy#meg mccaffrey#Lucius pjo#Cassius pjo#Aemilia pjo#gods they make me so feral#please don't mind the jewellery part#I can't have them for myself so I'm giving it to them😭
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I need a break from Ch 5 of the DLAU so fuck it, have headcanons n stuff for ToA until I get it out-
-Lester literally never had a haircut in the entire six months, so obviously it's actually pretty long. Maybe shoulder length?
-OH AND HIS EYESSS his eyes turn gold when he gets a burst of godly power! The ToA discord also came up with them turning entirely green when he has a vision and I love that.
-So Apollo is more than happy to become Lester again, but I like to think he made a few tweaks to the form. For one, replacing the acne with a ton of freckles (on his face and shoulders especially) and maybe dying a few of his curls blonde. Oh, and his eyes are still blue, but around the pupil itself is like a gold ring. So Lester, just with subtle changes to reference Apollo's godly form.
-Meg absolutely has sunflowers planted in Aeithales dedicated to Apollo, and he makes sure they stay alive and healthy no matter what.
-I believe Caleo split up to better focus on themselves. Sorry, I just don't like the pair and it didn't make sense. They're still friends though.
-Georgina is a legacy of Apollo, I will not answer your questions
-Apollo makes it a point to visit the two camps at least weekly, mostly just to say hi and check up on his old friends. He avoids giving out quests, but if he absolutely has to, he makes sure it's easy and even provides an asisst at times.
-Hell, in fact, he might come from nowhere in his Lester form and save you from that fall or dangerous trap, or that horde of monsters about to make a meal out of you. Those in-person interventions are rare though, as Apollo is trying his very best not to alert the other gods on what he's up to.
-The only one that knows is Artemis, but she says and does nothing about it. She understands that this is just Apollo's way to keep himself busy so that he doesn't break down over the memories, over how many died for him. Of course, it's mainly due to the promise he made with Jason that he does so much to help the demigods.
-Apollo spends a lot of time w Meg, helping her garden with the rest of the Imperial Household. He makes sure no harm ever comes to her, that she lives long and happy, and she's grateful for her dummy being there for her.
-Despite how much he now cares for mortals now, he's still a god. Apollo's very reluctant to unleash his plague arrows and whatnot upon humanity, but it's his purpose. So he tries to make any damage minimal when he has to attend to his more destructive godly duties.
#trials of apollo#lester papadopoulos#toa#toa headcanon#apollo pjo#apollo toa#apollo#meg mccaffrey#headcanon
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Also, look at Apollo's response to Percy insisting all demigods be claimed and taken to CHB just a chapter or two prior:
"They won't be left out in the world on their own at the mercy of monsters. I want them claimed and brought to camp so they can be trained right, and survive." "Now, wait just a moment," Apollo said, but I was on a roll. (TLO 353)
To Percy at the time, and on a Doylist level in terms of where the series was at with his characterization in fuckin' 2009, his protestations come across as typical self-absorbed drivel in the face of being accused of anything less than perfection. And while him framing his protestations that way fits with his characterization as it emerges in the rest of the series, in light of the wonderful readings that others in this thread have performed there is another level to them, one that spurs him to try to rebuild his foothold in camp asap and damn the consequences.
As the previous rb mentioned, Apollo has just lost several children to this war. He has just had it driven home in the worst way possible that CHB may not, in fact, be the safest place for his kids; it may be a streamlined way of giving them to Zeus to use as pawns in his power struggles. But now, Percy is forcing the gods' hands. Percy is institutionalizing CHB and binding all of the gods to it. This makes complete sense from Percy's perspective. He is a kid, camp is his home, and he is in the moment where he is speaking feeling fairly lenient and well-disposed towards the gods. He is willing to assume the best of them, willing to forgive Hermes, willing to ignore Ares' abuse (side note: I hate that motherfucker, get the fuck away from clarisse, I stg i will kill him), and willing to overlook the atrocities he has learned Zeus and Hades committed. He just wants the gods to be part of their kids' lives, at least enough for the kids to understand what's going on. And yeah that's a better deal overall for the half-bloods than they've had so far. But from Apollo's perspective, given his waning power within camp, Zeus' growing influence, and the recent fates of his children, jesus christ that is a terrifying ultimatum.
Building on what everyone else in this thread has established, Zeus has been elbowing him out of camp, repeatedly using it as a blackmail chip to get heroes to do what he wants them to. (I'm thinking of the way the weather reflects his threats in TLT and TTC, the way Percy is pressured into quests through fear of what Zeus will do to his friends and to their sanctuary). And now Percy is giving Apollo no choice - he *will* keep turning over his kids. No wiggle room. Camp's size and influence seems like it has been fading over the past years. Many demigods are said to have "disappeared"; not died, just not come back after a summer. I wonder how much of that could have been those who cared about them - parents both mortal and immortal - wanting to keep them out of the action, preferring their chances against monsters to their chances in a war. Point being, camp has not been the default in the time leading up to the Titan War. Not being at camp is dangerous, but being at camp has been dangerous as well.
Percy wants camp to be the default. Percy wants there to be systems in place, a safety net for demigods to rely upon. And he's so so right to want that. But he is a kid and he does not fully recognize (or want to recognize, understandably) how fucked it is, how capricious the safety net can be (the conditions of Zeus' protection), how it is paid for in blood (the quests, the unnecessary dangers, the poorly-planned 'training exercises'), how there is so much room for abuse within it (Tantalus, Mr. D at his worst, bullying on an inter-camper level with Clarisse, Drew, Sherman). But, at least to some extent, Apollo does, even he pretends not to. So when his hand is forced, he immediately moves to try to have some oversight of camp, some more involvement, to build up some of his power to protect or at least monitor it more. He instates Rachel as oracle immediately after the council concludes before anyone has time to react. Camp Half-Blood has been (re-?)established as Thee place for Greek demigods, and if that is inevitable then god damn Apollo going to put all his effort into being a part of it again rather than letting Zeus continue to alternately manipulate and abandon it uncontested.
oo now im interested in that apollo is chb'd patron thing would you care to elaborate on that??
@stereden also asked this! There’s not so much canon for this as some of the other things I’ve talked about but there’s still a few things to say on the topic, and not only am I going to talk about him being the patron, I’m going to talk about how that works with the things that happen with CHB during the PJO series, and of course because we’re talking about Apollo, there’s the odd little titbit from TOA that makes its way into this, too.
A lot of this will be extrapolation, but I’ve done my best to keep more floating headcanons out of it, so this should at least all stem convincingly from canon.
I’m going to address two things under this umbrella, because I think they’re related and also because I find them fascinating: Apollo as the patron god of CHB, and Apollo’s loss of jurisdiction over CHB by the events of canon.
So, Apollo and the patronage of CHB. While Camp Half-Blood Confidential is pretty goofy and daft in tone, it gives us a few important little nuggets of information regarding the founding of the camp, namely that it was Apollo’s idea - or at the very least, Apollo foresaw that it would happen/needed to happen.
Continua a leggere
#toa#Need to write up a separate post on this but some quibbles with the belief-fuels-gods element of the original post#because. Fascinatingly. This is not textually an ‘American gods’ type belief-equals-power situation. Not exactly.#the gods in the first two pjo books at least are said to be tied not to belief but to the nebulous concept of ‘western civilization’#a framework that makes the potential downfall of Olympus even more thematically interesting and satisfying#so while riordan has for understandable reasons shifted away from harping on that in the later books#i will continue to use it as canon. yeah it ages like milk because like uhh wtf#but the milk is turning into a fine cheese now with toa because get in losers we’re gonna fight the systems#Of imperialism and the racism embodied within appeals to ‘western heritage’ and all that#anyway heres how ‘defeating Zeus as bbeg’ ending can still win-#pjo#rick riordan#this came out way more apollo positive and centric than i actually think. huh. sometimes i just say stuff i guess#having a full on hegelian dialectic on my blog about interpretation of some dumb kids books. i love existence so much sometimes. this rules
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Slightly back on my bullshit in regards to roman portraiture but also linking it to Trials of Apollo because why tf not.
So, quick recap for those who don't know: Roman portraiture is to be taken with a grain of salt; especially Imperial portraiture. These are not realistic pictures of the people they portray, but rather carefully crafted, idealized images that would have been pre-approved by the subject before they were shown off to the world. They might include some individualized aspects (Pompey's portraits are a good example) but we really don't know what they look like.
On the other side of things, we can't really trust written accounts from people like Sutonious either, because in the case of the Julio-Claudians, he wrote about them some hundred years after that dynasty ended, and whatever sources he might have used in his describing of these people have long since been lost, and probably greatly embellished. Really, we have no clue what these people looked like. We don't even have remains to do facial reconstructions of because I'm pretty sure most imperial Romans would have been cremated.
So, what does this have to do with ToA?
I know within the universe of the books, the triumvirate is described in ways that look very similar to their surviving portraiture, it makes sense, these are the only images of these men we have left, but I thought it would be kind of cool if they only started looking more like their portraiture, after they became minor gods. Stay with me for a second.
These portraits were widely circulated, usually made as a means for the emperor to stand in during official events where he would need to be present, as well as just to remind everyone who's the boss. Most people in the Roman empire probably never physically saw the emperor himself, only these portraits, so this is the image of him that they would have known. I doubt, with the triumvirate being only minor dieties, that they have the ability to change their appearance at will like a major god can, but maybe one of the things that happened from transition from mortal to god is their appearance changed to fit more in with the widely circulated images around the empire. With some individuality sprinkled in as well.
Just an interesting thought I had.
#toa#trials of apollo#triumvirate holdings#toa nero#toa commodus#toa caligula#friendly reminder that I am a Nerd when it comes to ancient portraits
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octavian HAD to die in HoO bc if he lived to ToA he would’ve joined the imperial household ASAP 😭😭😭
#wait:…#thoughts r being thunk…..#just 4 me#pjo hoo toa#hoo spoilers#octavian hoo#octavian pjo#heroes of olympus#trials of apollo
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Round 2 Match-Ups: September 2024 Vocaloid Song Tournament
Set 1:
TRAFFIC JAM by Niru Kajitsu (NILFRUITS) vs. Imperial Girl by R Sound Design
A Born Coward by 164 vs. Chururira, Chururira, Daddadda! By Wada Takeaki (KurageP)
Usseewa by syudou vs. Otome Dissection by DECO*27
Goodbye Sengen by Chinozo vs. Envy Baby by Kanaria
Set 2:
Aishite Aishite Aishite by Kikuo vs. Dramaturgy by Eve
Literary Nonsense by Eve vs. Au no Beats by Hanyuu Maigo
ROKI by mikitoP vs. Love Trial by 40meter-P
Darling Dance by Kairiki Bear vs. Shoujo Rei by mikitoP
Set 3:
Deep-Sea Girl by Yuuyu vs. MKDR (DSCF) by DECO*27
phony by NOMELON NOLEMON vs. Shun-ran by john (TOOBOE)
Lagtrain by inabakumori vs. The Lost One's Weeping by Neru
Romeo and Cinderella by doriko vs. Kagerou Days by Jin
Set 4:
Melty Land Nightmare by Harumaki Gohan vs. Happy Halloween by Junky
Bitter Choco Decoration by syudou vs. Tokyo Teddy Bear by Neru
Charles by balloon vs. Telecaster B-Boy by Surii
An Unaware Drunk by Kanaria vs. Ego Rock by Surii
Set 5:
Villain by Teniwoha vs. Fragile by nulut (Lanndo)
Six Trillion Years and an Overnight Story by kemu vs. Patchwork Staccato by TOA
Venom by Kairiki Bear vs. ECHO by Crusher
Hated by Life Itself. by Kanzaki Iori vs. Egoist by Oonuma Parsley
The current scores for each idol groups stands at 7 songs left for Leo/need, 8 songs left for MORE MORE JUMP!, 8 songs left for Vivid BAD SQUAD, 5 songs left for Wonderlands x Showtime, and 12 songs left for Nightcord at 25:00. So far, Nightcord has the highest odds of winning while WxS has the lowest odds of winning, but will it stay that way? Round 2 starts in a few moments, so don't forget to vote, reblog, spread harmless propaganda, and have fun!
#vocaloid#project sekai#prsk#proseka#pjsk#pjsekai#project sekai colorful stage#hatsune miku colorful stage#colorful stage#leo/need#more more jump#vivid bad squad#wonderlands x showtime#nightcord at 25:00
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