#tmagp 13 spoilers

[brettanomycroft]

"Managing the bad guys"?

The computers have started talking out of nowhere, your IT manager had a mental breakdown and is now sneaking into his own place of work, one of your external operators just stole a corpse, two of your employees broke into a condemned building where a man had his eyes ripped out(?) and have possibly unleashed a new and vengeful horror, another one of your employees woke up on the side of a motorway with no memories of how she got there, your externals liaison girlbossed too close to the sun and is in the middle of an existential crisis, and there's still 👏no👏tea👏in the👏break room👏!

The O.I.A.R. is managing bad guys the way I "manage" my anxiety or "manage" my time.

[theanxiousghostartist]

A collection of theories and speculation from TMAGP 13

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Celia: It's interesting that (assuming she is telling the truthee about Jack/his age) that she would have chosen the name Jack for her baby. Jack is an old nickname for John. I know names aren't really a big factor in the show (Jonathan Sims took his name for the main character of TMA lol), but it's still interesting. Also, she mentioned that it had been a few years since she "moved here" but we know that Chester, Norris, and Augustus showed up about a year and a half ago (the first episode mentions a year, but Same mentions in this episode that it had been about 6 months since he got the job). So we have 3 possibilities, assuming that Celia is from TMA and that Chester and Norris are Jon and Martin (and Augustus is probably Magnus):

1. Time works differently. Celia showed up a few years ago, probably 1-2 years before Jon and Martin, therefore time could work differently for Jon and Martin in the computer system.

2. Celia is lying. I don't remember hearing an glitches while she was talking, so this may be unlikely, however, it is possible that Celia showed up around the same time as Jon and Martin and lied about it to Sam to giver her more of a past. In this episode, she said Jack is around a year old, which could fit into this timeline, if Jack was a premie or if Jack came with her either from TMA or he randomly showed up when she arrived.

3. Celia could have just said the time frame wrong. It's possible that Celia could have said a few years, when she actually arrived around a year and a half ago. This would be untrue, but technically not a lie as a year and a half could be counted as 2 years, which could be counted as a few years. It's possible that she did this intentionally or it's possible that she actually thinks it was a few years. Since she was having "a werid time," her memories could be messed up, especially if she traveled from TMA.

Sam's past: Sam said everything started going wrong after the Institute, which eventually landed him at the OIAR. Could this be the Web's doing? We know that the Web has manipulated a future archivist before, with the Web being the first to mark Jon, so it's possible that it's doing the same to Sam.

Lena & Gwen's discussion: Lena says that her group is "managing the bad guys" which makes me wonder: Is something else controlling the fears? Did the Web take over? Or did this world just figure out how to deal with the fears?

Personally I think it's either a different entity entirely controlling the fears/keeping them in line or the Web (we already know that the Web has manipulated most of the fears before, with Gertrude's/Agnes's bond, Jon, the eyepolcolypse, ect).

[xthexrawringx20sx]

THE GLITCHING WHEN ALICE SAID “I’M HAPPY THAT YOU’RE HAPPY”?!?!

[mlmmom-evy10]

"Personal Projection Short Sell"

It kind of reminds me of Piecemeal, where pieces of you are given up in return for a goal.

Whether it be for revenge, (failed through a broken deal), or for money through sacrificing pieces of your happiness etc.

[theseuscloud]

IT GLITCHED

[vvanillavveins]

ok but Alice "sober up & stop trying to make an impact" Dyer would get along well with Cecil "if you see something say nothing & drink to forget" Gershwin Palmer

[hawstar]

the magnus protocol episode 13 “future”

[neo--queen--serenity]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 🎲📱

[hikaaa-bi]

what does this mean? i don’t know. but it is interesting.

[jamiekb]

I feel that with this latest episode it’s more obvious the emphasis on physical damage in Protocol. You pay with your body, you change yourself, you give blood to this entities so that you might reap a benefit.

There’s the self harm in ep.2 and this one, the doctor in ep.3 changing completely into a tree, the violin from 4 always takes blood in one way or another, the guy from the liminal spaces ended up with one finger missing, we have the descriptions of mangled bodies from ep.9 and 12

It feels like nothing can stay under the surface anymore. You will become a living tapestry of your life and it will be the norm rather than the exception.

[rebeccasteventaylor]

Ok, let’s look closely at Celia’s statement because Magnus Archives made it clear the exact use of language is important.

Spoilers..

Celia didn’t say she was a mother. She said she had a baby and she doesn’t know who the dad is

In Marked, when she woke up the side of the motorway, she tried to call someone to get help…

Which suggests to me - someone else is at home. Or at least there’s someone she could call for help. Because someone looks after that baby while Celia is at work

What if the baby is not hers? She’s raising Jack, possibly with someone else? And that’s why she doesn’t know who the father is - because she’s not the one that got pregnant.

When she says she had a wild couple of years, that could mean all sorts of things. It could mean a lot of drinking and drugs. It could also mean struggling through the end of the world. It could also mean coming through the new world and trying to find her place - fighting monsters here.

Because her date with Sam seemed to have an awful lot of digging about Sam’s background and the Institute and the cases.

Anyway. That’s my theory. She cares for Jack, but Jack is not her baby.

And my favourite theory right now is - it’s Agnes’ baby. And the baby is in hiding, safe with Celia, where whoever is using Agnes can’t find it…(and if it is Jack Barnabas’s baby that would explain why Agnes called it Jack)

[mita-vittua-olivia]

love how tumblr has decided not to feel bad for the victim of tmagp 13 simply because he’s a finance bro

[murderandcoffee]

hmmmmm hey celia? celia darling? what makes you pretty sure that the cases are real? why would you think that? do you have any evidence? any personal experiences, mayhaps? something to do with a carousel or a burning ghost or a cult in the tunnels under a specific institute, maybe? hmm?

[cirrus-grey]

A theory:

Category: What caused this incident?

Category 1: Direct interference from the OIAR or one of its affiliates. (Bonzo, Needles, the person who reanimated Arthur Winstead)

Category 2: The location where it happened was marked. (Guy who turned into a tree, the charity shop, the liminal architecture)

Category 3: The victim walked into it on their own. (Violinist, dice guy, finance app guy)

Rank: What was the result of this incident?

Rank A: Net positive. There will be a price to pay. (RedCanary is the only A)

Rank B: Net negative. There is a benefit to reap. (Bonzo, Needles, dice guy, finance app guy, horror movie guy...)

Rank C: Net neutral. This incident balanced itself. (Guy that turned into a tree, violinist, charity shop)

Combined categories have more than one cause. RedCanary (23) went to a marked location, and chose to investigate the symbols they found. Gordon (23) chose to investigate the corpse, but was also affected by the cliffside location.

Combined ranks balance differently depending on whose perspective you take. Harriet (BC) was terrified of her reanimated husband, but Arthur had a balanced experience between being reanimated and losing parts of himself. Daria (BC) had a negative experience with Ink5oul, but balanced their own cost/benefit relationship with the tattoo. RedCanary (AB) had nothing but negatives after going to the Institute... but something else benefited from it.

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Two notes:

1) Both dice guy and finance app guy successfully balanced their experiences as long as they rode the catastrophe curve between loss and profit. It was only when they tried to break the cycle that the final (deadly) negative blow came. This contrasts with the violinist, who reaped the benefits and paid the price willingly into old age.

2) The trailer with Sam's job interview was marked as Category 1, Rank B.

[thswrtchdthng]

Darrien was like if violin guy and dice guy had a cryptobro kid

[mintytea-exe]

the episode starting with developing the chronology of Sam's bad luck and then launching into a casement immensely focused on luck doesn't look good for Sam at all