#tigerspawn

[cryptidclaw]

Here’s all 6 of the Tigerspawn sketches from my ask requests together <3

[troutfur]

wait was the bramblehawk post serious do you ship them

To an extent I'm being edgy in order to drive away the harassing people about ships crowd. I have already gotten hit by one of these moral panics before and I'd rather scare away the people who'd do that to me again.

That said: I am willing to entertain most any idea really, but with Bramblehawk specifically the angle I see is a comedic one. Like that one post where Brambleclaw is being a dense idiot and doesn't get that the reason Squirrelflight disapproves of them dating is because they're brothers but he's too self-absorbed in his self-wallowing to see that Squirrelflight pointing out he's Tigerstar's son doesn't mean she universally thinks Tigerspawn are bad.

I honestly think that at my worst anything that I reblog/post surrounding unhealthy dynamics is at most provocative and definitely never outright endorsing or romanticising. The tone is either comedic or when treated seriously it surrounds subject matter that to a 13+ audience like Tumblr is supposed to be shouldn't be their first exposure (e.g. arranged marriages and incest amongst royalty).

So yeah.

[bonefall]

Ashfur should have a huge litter, like six or eight in Hawkfather AU, lol. Just tons of kits, make Bramblestar's life HARD. And when Squirrel and Ash reform their friendship, Squirrel just....let's them do whatever so long as it doesn't hurt the clan but its fine if it bugs Bramble.

How is Hawkstar going to react to the imposter and Tigerstar the 2nd?

I remember clearly being taught that the definition of a Clan in human terms is, "Three or more families acting as a social unit." So I always felt like it was a waste that no warrior Clans had family-based politics, y'know? We only JUST got it in ASC with Snowbird's descendants but I feel like there should be more.

So I like the idea of Ashfur and his 4 kids being a really solid block that consistently supports Squirrelflight, causing trouble but being united enough that they can usually wiggle out of consequence.

"REMEMBER KIDS; IF NOBODY TALKS EVERYBODY WALKS."

-On Hawkstar

That'll depend a bit on how OotS goes down in Hawkfather/Sweet Nothings. The reason why I could have never put these concepts into the Bonefall Rewrite is because Hawkstar makes canon SUPER divergent.

Hawkstar has come a long way from the ambitious youth he was. He won. He got everything he personally wanted. He's leader of RiverClan at an extremely young age, Mothwing under his claw (and he'd probably do something to get rid of Willowshine, so StarClan can't undermine him), allies in all Clans... and this is all overwhelming. One Clan is hard enough to run, always having to keep his cats busy, fighting pointless battles, making sure the pile is stocked, and also keeping up his Dark Forest training

Doing the evil ACTIVITIES was a lot more fun than doing the evil PAPERWORK.

Eventually he has to pay the piper, the Dark Forest put him in power, and it threatens that it will pull him out, too. But anyway,

If he was reacting to Thornclaw Impostor, I think there's a strong chance he'd go along with Bramblefake enforcing the code. Before Tigerstar started speaking to him, he cared at least partially about it. I can see him feeling like his life really started to go downhill when he fully abandoned it.

He would probably be Bramblefake's closest ally, until he realizes that this time HE'S the one who's been deceived.

As for Tigerheart? It's complicated but largely negative. He feels some resentment towards him for so obviously being one of Tigerstar's favorites even though Tigerheart isn't nearly as loyal as he was. Hawkstar narrowly escaped being impaled in some stupid attempt to give Brambleclaw power, and his father still prefers his bloodline through Goldenflower

But at the same time, he IS family, and they share a ton of classic Tigerkin traits. As a leader, Tigerheartstar and Hawkstar would be in a LOT of conflict over the borders and their schemes would clash with sparks flying.

It also probably doesn't escape WindClan that 3/4 Clans are now directly lead by Tigerspawn, and Breezepelt probably gets a lot of trouble for it.

[quiverpaw]

What if...... u fused tawnypelt and mothwing into the ultimate tigerspawn

what if i did….

please send requests im bored

[spottyissleepwalking]

What are some of your favorite unexplored dynamics in Warriors? Mine have to be Kestreflight-Jayfeather-Willowshine and the Thunder-Shadow tigerspawn cousins (Holly-Jay-Lion and Dawn-Flame-Tiger).

Firestar and Tigerstar :/

In canon they just… they don’t feel like they have a relationship, y’know? A good narrative conflict should have the two opposing sides be close, know each other, have personal stakes and conflict and a sense of “you’re a bad person, who has done horrible, terrible things, but you’re still a person”.

Tigerstar just doesn’t feel like a person to me. He’s just a narrative antagonist, point blank, and while that works for a children’s story, diving deeper into it, it’s just… dull. Flat. Disappointing. Firestar doesn’t feel like a person to me, to a point, especially not in comparison to his major antagonist foil. Their relationship is boring and nonexistent.

That’s part of the reason why I merged Whitestorm and Tigerclaw into one character in OFND; White’s presence is almost like a pseudo-mentor to Fire. He’s Fire’s first deputy! He’s calming and wise and good. What would happen if it turned out that Whitestorm ultimately betrayed his Clan? How crushed would Fire be? How reluctant would he be to approach him, with the intention of doing harm to one of the cats who essentially raised him?

Idk I just feel like there’s a lot to be explored between the og villain and hero of Warriors…

Honorable mentions would be: Ferncloud and her last litter (Foxleap and Icecloud), Poppyfrost and Jayfeather (I love their friendship and want to see more of it), and definitely the ThunderShadow Tigerspawn cousins ^^

[i-have-bees-in-my-brain]

tigersiblings thoughts are in my head

So i always found it really interesting that in tpb, there was a lot of attention on Bramblekit/paw being Tigerclaws kit, notably because he looked exactly like him, giving Fireheart a heart attack every time he sees him. This caused Goldenflower to be protective over him and made Fireheart decide to mentor him himself in order to keep an eye on him, but also to give him a chance to be the kind of respected, strong, good warrior Tigerclaw could have been. I also imagine being the apprentice of the deputy, later leader, saved Bramble from at least some of the hostility as tigerspawn.

Tawny, however, does not seem to get that special attention, and must feel like Goldenflower (who only aims to protect both of them but Bramble is the one Firestar worries about) favours her brother. Her mentor Brackenfur is just a random young warrior at that point, being apprenticed to him is no special honour. For bonus drama points i headcanon that she overheard parts of the conversation between Fireheart and Sandstorm, with Fire telling Sand (who is overdue for her first apprentice) that he wont let her mentor Tawny, consolidating her belief that she will never have a chance to be accepted, not even to prove herself in the way Bramble gets to.

It is canon to me that Tawny really looks up to Sandstorm as the best hunter of the Clan and an overall strong, respected, awesome warrior, cmon tawny said as a kit that she also wants to be the best hunter, this makes so much sense!

She does get targeted for who her father is, though, and it really gets to her, making her feel like she has no place in ThunderClan, will never be fully accepted there and would be better off with her father in ShadowClan. And then her own family barely try to stop her? Bramble was sad for like 5 seconds and then just said okay if thats her choice bye forever:) girl that is your SISTER and the only cat that really understands your struggles rn!

I wish this sibling relationship had mattered more. The potential of Bramble trying to be close to Hawkfrost, bonding over their heritage, as an attempt to have what he cannot ever have again with Tawny because he let her leave... The fact that both of them chose to follow their father once and the complex feelings thaese incidents caused... man. Actually Goldenflower and her realtionship with her kits shouldve also mattered more.

In conclusion why isnt there a book focussing on bramble and tawny as kits

[lightningwaters]

[warriors-au-nonsense]

I find it highly amusing how Tigerstar, the biggest douche cat to ever douche, canonically makes beautiful children. Like Bramblestar? The cat equivalent of a Grecian God. Tawnypelt? Could probably seduce fucking anyone just by looking at them. Mothwing? Beautiful. 10/10. Absolutely gorgeous. Hawkfrost? It's his eyes. I guarantee it. I mean he was pretty enough to get away with being a complete fuck wipe. Tadpole? I don't know much about him other than what's on his wiki but there is no doubt in my mind he is drop dead gorgeous.

[dawnfinchh]

ive also been stewing on an au where sasha splits up moth and hawk for their safety. moth goes to rc and hawk goes to wc. one tigerspawn for every clan

also meaning one tigerspawn leader for every clan? 👀

[cryptidclaw]

Bramble and Tawny!! (so the Four Tigerclones of the Apocalypse will be complete 😈)

I drew my roc designs so they aren’t too canon accurate hehe

Should I draw the bonus Tigerspawn (Swift and Tadpole) too?

[troutfur]

Fun fact about omnis vir tigris: the Jayfeather and Lionblaze portrayed in that series would absolutely hold a "Firestar is dead" party. Even if my plans for the conclusion have them both come to terms with their childhood trauma re: being judged for being Tigerspawn and coming to be on if not amicable at least politely distant terms with him, they kind of still hate the guy deep inside and are glad to not have to see his stupid face ever again.

[root-spring]

"I'll always be here if you need me. I may not share your faith, but I will always help you fight for what you believe in."

[quiverpaw]

May I be enlightened more on this redux, I’m very intrigued 👀

thank you im glad you like it! theres a lot of changes.

—first off, darkstripe is very young in tpb, the same age as longtail, this is so he’s relatively young enough to live until po3 and have tigerheart. his baby daddy is brokenstar. dont think too hard about it

—brindleface is the tigerstar character instead of typical tigerspawn, thanks to @/goobiestar’s au! brindleface mothers brambleclaw, hawkfern, mothwing, ashfur and spiresight.

— leafpool and hawkfern have the three, renamed to hollyhawk, jaywing, and lionblaze as usual.

— whitewing is swifthound’s and Brightheart’s kit. cloudtail exists in this story, but is just a friend to them.

— brackenfur and thornclaw are merged into brackenthorns.

— shadowsight and frostcurl(paw in canon) are a thing. keep in mind frostpaw is aged back slightly to be born mid tbc, and is only about 2 years younger.

— darkstripe is willowdawn and stonefur’s kit.

— bristlefrost and shadowsight, alongside lightleap, are siblings

[nyxiesilverfire]

Okay but I came up with a new part that I love.

Hawkfrost as a shitty uncle that gives his nieces and nephews bad advice and purposely fucks with them for his own amusement.

Hawkfrost: *tells Jaypaw that if his brother ever annoys him to put a thorn in his nest*

*tells Tigerpaw it's perfectly okay to "accidentally" unsheath his claws in training if the other apprentice is annoying him or a cat he doesn't like*

*tries to convince Flamekit that pine needles are a medical remedy*

*tells the three and Sparkpelt and Alderheart when they were all kits that if they listen really closely to the shells Mothwing brings them they'll be able to hear the water cats that live in the sun-drown-place*

*gives them actually good advice so that they can argue against their parents when they're told not to listen to his advice or that he only gives bad advice*

*brings the three fish, knowing they'll probably hate it and is more than satisfied when even polite little Hollypaw almost spits it out*

*convinces Dawnpaw that Riverclan has a very close friendship with the water cats and that none of the clans should pick a fight with them because the water cats will come through the shells that decorate their nests and attack*

Warriors Concept:

Hawkfrost is kind of redeemed but actually not really? He doesn’t die because Tawnypelt got her paws on him and beat some sense into him before he tried to get Bramblestar to kill Firestar. He just becomes the Loki sibling of the Tigerspawn.

Hawkfrost: “we should murder them”

Tawnypelt: “Hawkfrost. What have we told you about murder?”

Hawkfrost: *is mildly annoyed* “not to do it without reason. But I have a reason this time”

Brambleclaw: “they’re in your way and you hate them are not good enough reasons for murder.”

Hawkfrost: “damn it.” *considers it anyway*

Tawnypelt: *gives hard look and flexes claws, reminding him she can beat his ass again if she has to*

Hawkfrost: *groans but stops considering murder* “you don’t let me do anything”

[iotnonii]

There were good times, right?

Hi I'm Io and I would kill for some decently explored sibling bonds between the two halfclan/rogue tigerspawn. They had to have been pretty close at some point and there's so much angst potential in them

[lightningwaters]