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@curseofbreadbear this is literally just gregory and gretel bickering
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freddy fazbear
#hamster and gretel#fred grant#phineas and ferb#candace flynn#perry the platypus#my art#laughing at the thought of freds mom and vanessas mom on a facebook group for mothers of goth teens setting up a meeting for them#i know hng probably takes place at a different time than pnf. but i dont care… Friendship#anyways so i think that if candace and fred were to meet itd be through vanessa via fred meeting vanessa from the goths moms facebook group#im playing with my touys
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the dwampyverse and all its timelines
welcome to the analysis i've been promising for like two years! this will be phineas and ferb centric simply due to the sheer amount of episodes compared to milo murphy's law and hamster and gretel. with the inclusion of hamster and gretel, i will admit this has gotten a little less easy to navigate, but i'm hoping with a bit of analysis and suspension of belief, it'll be okay. ready? lets go!
the best way i can describe this first part is by providing a visual of how i see it. and using a three-circle venn diagram makes perfect sense with all of the overlapping and individual parts.
so - pictured above is said venn diagram. each part is its own timeline. ones where each show is their own timeline, ones where pnf/mml overlap, mml/hng overlap, pnf/hng overlaps and the one right in the centre where they all overlap. this doesnt include timelines where "endings" are separate (read: quantum boogaloo, act your age, doof 101, owca files... any ending that isnt last day of summer. but i'll get to those ones later). make sense?
1. where only phineas and ferb exists.
this works best before 2015. this timeline is the one that has zero murphy crumbs on it. dan and swampy haven’t yet had the idea of doing a show about a kid with awful luck and time travelling shenanigans. this is the most nostalgic timeline, for phineas has reigned over the disney channel cartoons for eight years. the lumberzacks dont exist, hamster and gretel dont save danville each week. pnf is its own show. no other shows have an influence on it.
adding to this - if you ignore any of the alternate timeline episodes and stop at last day of summer, you get my personal favourite way of watching the show. this one is basically just ignoring owca files, doof 101, all of mml and most importantly - act your age. I love the idea of an open book ending for these characters, especially for ones we saw on our tvs for over eight years [when it aired]. the events that take place after last day of summer are simply giving an idea of what COULD happen to our beloved cast, and without them, they really make no impact on the original story. the events before the end of summer are in no way impacted by the other alternate ending episodes.
2. where both phineas and ferb and milo murphy’s law exists
this is the canon, everything-exists-all-at-the-same-time timeline, pre-hamster and gretel. every piece of context works together, and everything is all connected. everything is canon! everyone is friends with each other! the pnf effect works! doof moves in with the murphy's, and this timeline is basically if you watched pnf and mml chronologically, without any of the alt ending episodes (in case you forgot which ones: quantum boogaloo, act your age, doof 101 and the owca files). this is the one i think we're all familiar with - it also includes candace against the universe (mostly uh... broadly speaking, the lumberzacks are the only mml thing in there).
3. where only milo murphy’s law exists
a timeline where pnf and hng are nonexistent. this timeline would probably exclude anything past season one, really. the crossover would not work. maybe even in this timeline the pistachions take over everything and the human characters cease to exist. (eleanor shellstrop this is the bad place!.jpeg) this further pushes the point (that I haven’t made - I’ve been thinking it I just haven’t said it lmao) that you can’t have milo murphys law without phineas and ferb. the crossover plot proves it. both in the real world AND in mml.
4. where just hamster and gretel exists
this one is a little hard to explain, especially since hng has only just finished its first season. there are a few pnf references in this show but it stands on its own feet much more than mml did. i think the likelihood of hng existing in its own timeline works a lot better than mml - but the chance of there being a surprise crossover is moderately high. like i said, it's a little hard to analyse this since its that much more removed from its predecessors.
5. where milo murphy’s law and hamster and gretel exist
this is a very unlikely scenario, but there is a chance a timeline like this exists somewhere. it’s a bit difficult to analyse or even prove since there haven’t been any kind of references or even characters that pop up in hng from mml. I wouldn’t expect the opposite either, considering that mml ended in 2019 and hng didn’t exist until after that, so hng within mml is basically impossible without a third season.
these last two timelines make a lot less sense, especially since hng still has stories to tell and we havent seen mml characters there yet (well... unless you count doof. hes technically a mml character, right? as much as some of us dislike that fact? haha. ahahaha.)
6. where phineas and ferb and hamster and gretel exists
this one works. i think it’s basically how dtva thinks it works (basically completely ignoring mml’s entire existence lmao) but this is basically the canon timeline of hng currently. but we’ll wait and see if there’s a crossover.
7. where all of phineas and ferb, milo murphy’s law and hamster and gretel exist all at once
like I say, a surprise crossover could happen (but based off what happened with the pnf effect I can’t even imagine how messy this would get) so yes, they could exist all at once. and they probably do, just that hng is a lot further removed from its predecessors in terms of references and characters popping up out of nowhere (doof and his inators don’t seem to have much importance yet, but who knows how it’ll end). this timeline, basically, is for those who don’t really mind that everything’s in a collective universe, and it seems like the easiest one to comprehend if you aren’t pedantic about all of this.
but what about the episodes where timelines end?
you’re probably here thinking okay, so what? there’s different timelines. this isn’t news. what about the other individual episodes that are within the umbrella timeline? I like to think of them as individual timelines within the show, along with all the other ones mentioned above.
quantum boogaloo
timelines have been a thing pretty much since season 2 of phineas and ferb, notably in the episode quantum boogaloo where they go forward in time and see a potential future where stacy is the president of uruguay. this is an example of something ‘canonically’ happening after last day of summer, 20 years in the future. this episode has a couple of potential timelines - the one where everything is fine, and the one where doof is emperor and everyone is named joe. the first timeline has candace ending up with jeremy and having three kids, along with ferb at camp david and phineas at an awards ceremony in switzerland. however, this particular timeline doesnt match up equally with act your age, since their ages dont line up. in quantum boogaloo, pnf are aged 30 twenty years later, in aya, pnf are aged 18 ten years later. this means they could either be 8 or 10 in the original summer, depending on the timeline. the second one is pretty much null to me since they time travel back and both of the future timelines cancel out.
doof 101
so. this is an episode i havent seen for a while. however, this is one of the perfect examples since the theme for doof 101 says "and this all takes place in fall so don't let the timeline throw you" like hiiii thank you for acknowledging that this is a separate timeline! there's a short bit in the title that shows doof facing either prison time or teaching at the high school in court, and its something we don't see the events leading up to. sure, he's done crimes against humanity but there weren't ever any consequences during the show. who turned him in? why is he on trial? what happened between him being evil and becoming a high school science teacher? and why does this monobrow edward rooney ass guy have beef with him and charlene out of nowhere? timelines, dude. got me stressed out and its not even my show.
act your age
[through gritted teeth] this episode also shows another potential canonical ending for the cast. phineas ends up with isabella 10 years after last day of summer, showing that this particular timeline has the kids aged around 8 or 9 in the original summer. we all know my thoughts on this particular ending, notably posted here. this timeline is easy to ignore if you dislike it, like the majority of us.
what does line up with the original summer, however, is doof's b-plot in act your age. I'm not a huge hater of his arc in this episode, and honestly, it might be his most in-character timeline ending out of all of them. yes, you heard me, theres something i dont dislike about act your age. like i said in the post linked above, i dont find it hard to believe he would bowl with perry and carl and monogram every week. he would totally have a mid-life crisis that wasn't real, like this guy canonically can't even hate christmas. this is so in character for him! in terms of it being a different timeline though, the only proof i have is that it's one of many different timeline ending episodes.
last day of summer
this episode is kinda like a flagship for the timelines, and as mentioned above, my favourite ending. i don’t think I need to reiterate it, but it really just provides an open ending for the entire cast, and makes room for anything else to happen. I’m curious to see how it pans out in the reboot; if they keep the continuity and acknowledge that ldos happened, or if they just kinda skip over it if it’s true that the new seasons will happen in the summer after the original one. but don’t worry - if the reboot adds any kind of canon divergence (I’m literally counting on it) You Will Certainly Hear From Me About It. lol
the owca files
I'll admit i haven't watched owca files for a number of years but i still remember bits of it. its a very strange timeline to me. i understand that doof is legally an ocelot and can be an agent but it does feel like the beginning of that out-of-characterness he displays in mml. and i guess the owca files is canon there, right? the bit with monogram during the pnf effect?
this also includes the pine tree. it feels like a way of letting us know owca files is in a different timeline. the flynn-fletcher house gets blown up, they get new plates, and we have symbolism of the end of an era with a pine tree in their backyard.
milo murphy's law
this one in particular is mostly just the pnf/mml overlap but ensures that doof ends up as professor time. if you've seen mml i don't think i need to explain it - after last day of summer (and owca files if ur nasty) the events of mml occur chronologically as if its one continuous timeline.
wait! what about the other canon divergent episodes?
ones that aren’t necessarily an ending but are set smack bang in the middle of the show with no explanation? don’t worry. I got you.
phineas and ferb christmas vacation
this episode features doof being evil in the middle of winter. dan povenmire has said he relapsed, but this is a perfect example of different timelines. a lot of the “ending” episodes were written and aired well before last day of summer so the chance of them knowing how the show was going to end was likely very little, if not zero. so, let’s imagine that last day of summer doesn’t happen. none of that arc happens, it’s just doof being passively evil throughout the year and then this christmas event happens. i don’t think he ever stopped being evil in this timeline. the chance of him just getting less… violent with his schemes is probably the best way of thinking about it. hell, he got perry a present. yes, it was a vase, but would the s1 heinz have done that? probably not. he’s definitely less evil as the show progresses, and even an episode like this one that aired in season 2 shows how quickly they turned it around.
on the other hand - the boys make their santa clubhouse invention and candace stresses what to get jeremy as a gift. does she try and bust them? surprisingly, no. her main focus is jeremy, and when it all goes south she’s in on what the boys are doing when santas elves show up. she mentions “what’s different this year than last year?”, insinuating that the boys weren’t inventing anything before the summer that the show is set in, and that this episode is definitely set after that summer. the B plot is definitely more solid proof of the alternate timeline, with heinz “relapsing” although I struggle to believe that with all the canon divergency that happens within the show and in mml/hng the chances of it just being a relapse are very remote.
that’s the spirit!
this one is similar in that it diverges from our last day of summer ending. doof is still evil, and candace - wait, she doesn’t even try and bust them. she’s keen to trick or treat with the gang and then go to jeremy’s party. she doesn’t even try and bust them. (man, it’s almost like it’s another timeline or something.)
back to doof though - he might have relapsed like in the christmas vacation episode, but he’s not necessarily evil here either. sure, he declared war on grass for an unknown reason and turned himself into a were-cow, but it’s not established that he wants to take over the tri state area like usual. if anything, it’s the opposite. he runs from the masses like it’s a witch hunt.
the curse of candace
this episode is all fine until the end where candace turns to dust and phineas says "we're gonna need a dustpan and some glue." there isnt much else to say about this one, but it indicates another timeline where candace is glued back together afterwards. and she’s also a vampire.
happy new year!
this is set after the summer the show is set in, considering that jeremy and coltrane are at the party as candace and stacy's respective dates. doof is still evil as his plot is to become ruler of the tri-state area. candace makes one last attempt at busting her brothers. this is definitely another timeline, and also apparently one where gangnam style exists. pretty easy to understand - doof doesnt have his giving-up-evil arc and continues to be passively evil like always. this could also work chronologically with christmas vacation, where he tries his naughty-inator and then a week later comes up with the resolution-changer-inator. candace's arc is a little different, she could have stayed consistent and tried to bust the boys from summer onwards, only getting to new years and wanting to change her ways with a new years resolution.
for your ice only
evil doof is back again in the fourteen days of winter vacation that fall between christmas and new years'. for him, this could be an evil scheme that takes place at some point in between christmas vacation and new years, or it could be its own timeline altogether. candace also attempts to bust the boys again, as per usual.
what's interesting about this one though, is the fact they refer back to football x7 when talking about hockey z9. and you're probably thinking 'obviously? whats ur point' and yes. obviously they bring up the original episode when referencing the sport with the same name format. but this also implies its in the same timeline as the football x7 game, meaning there's at least two timelines that divert off my fair goalie - one that doesn't include hockey z9 and one that does (this episode). and this one (i'm circling back) includes evil doof. bam!
escape from phineas tower
what! this is a normal episode, right? if that was your reaction upon reading that subtitle, you'd be thinking the same as me, until you remember the ending where the tower extends its forcefield around the entire milky way galaxy. but here's where things get really interesting. what film, may i ask, has a plot where the ensemble cast has to fly to another planet to rescue two other ensemble cast members? thats right, candace against universe! this means that catu is set in a timeline that doesn't include the escape from phineas tower episode, since they're able to exit the milky way galaxy and enter the vroblok cluster. this would be impossible if it were in the same timeline as this episode, since they would have stopped at the dome and wouldn't have been able to get to feebla-oot.
she’s the mayor
honourable mention to this episode since it features time travel and timeline fuckery and I never see anybody talk about it!
"Back at the golf course, Roger is astounded at how fast the game is going as Dr. Doofenshmirtz points out that the slight chance that the Accelerate-inator could destroy the very fabric of space-time and possibly the entire universe is a small price to pay to get done with the game. Perry then breaks the Accelerate-inator using a golf club, causing time to flow backwards at the exact moment when Linda and Candace are about to bust Phineas and Ferb, also undoing all of the day's events back to the announcement in City Hall and causing an alien from another universe to appear.
At City Hall, Mayor Doofenshmirtz prepares to announce the winner of the Mayor-For-A-Day Essay Contest. The alien destroys the Accelerate-inator, causing the time-line to be altered once again as the new honorary mayor is announced: the old coot and telling everyone that any gold that they find is now his, causing Candace to lament, "I was robbed."" (from the pnf wiki)
what would’ve happened if doof's machine wasn’t destroyed and set the timeline back into place? the fabric of time and space would have been destroyed, and there is a very high chance there would have been a last-day-of-summer-esque situation where everything within the void would cease to exist. right from the start of the episode, it begins with a clock chiming, so from the beginning we are made aware that time will somehow have significance, which it does. after the timeline resets, we hear the clock chime again, which lets the viewer know we're now in a different timeline. there don't seem to be any repercussions of this timeline fuckery later in the show since it doesn't get mentioned again.
night of the living pharmacists
second honourable mention goes to this ending that @momphineasandferbmadeablog reminded me of (tysm bestie) where it "ends" with stacy turning off her tv as if the entire episode was a horror film the whole time. however, even before verifying, i had a feeling it was debunked and its just the ending of the grievance film. and i was right.
"Dan Povenmire made it clear that the entire episode was canon instead of a film Stacy was watching, and that the "The End" card on Stacy's TV was merely the "The End" title card of the Grievance movie she was watching." (from the pnf wiki)
there isnt a citation for it and none of his tweets showed up while i was looking for actual proof but i definitely remember him saying it somewhere, but please, absolutely feel free to think of it as a separate timeline! without dan saying it's a canon episode, there isn't actually any proof within the episode that it isn't its own timeline.
across the second dimension/tales from the resistance: back to the second dimension
and for our third and final honourable mention, this one is basically the existence of the second dimension. I haven't added it as its own since the concept is pretty obvious - its another dimension where a different timeline occurs. i mean, idk if i need to fully explain it, if youve seen the film and the s4 episode you know what happens. it's explicitly stated to be another dimension, however the specific mention of timelines is nonexistent. semantics, yes, but i do really feel like atsd is separate from all of it.
it's certainly a timeline that could happen - doof could lose his choo-choo and eventually take over the tri-state area and the events of the film would occur, but the fact that the main characters cross over and meet each other puts it into a different category for me. but by all means, feel free to think of it as yet another timeline!
I want to specifically mention: this list of episodes is not at all an exhaustive number of timelines. the way I see it, this is just the ones that are “labelled” (for lack of a better word) as their own timelines. there can be as many or as few timelines within the dwampyverse as you like. this analysis is not a rulebook, but rather answering the conundrum with one solution out of an infinite number of possibilities.
the dwampyverse and its "current year syndrome"
i think we can all agree that phineas and ferb is a relatively timeless show, in that you could watch it at any point in the past fifteen years and it wouldn't feel particularly out of place. that being said, the technology used in the show makes it feel aged or weirdly out of time. most notably, the switch between candace having a flip phone in the first three seasons and a touch-screen phone in everything post-season four. this is clearly influenced by the smartphone boom that occurred in the 2010s when iphones became mainstream, and thus impacted everyday life, including in tv and film.
so, when the animators jumped on this trend, phineas and ferb became a lot less timeless. candace owning something like a flip phone, something that didn't even exist for a long period of time in real life, felt less like something that was trying to keep up with the times than when she suddenly appeared on screen with a smartphone. not to mention the alexa joke in candace against the universe. now that was a jumpscare.
if you did want to carbon date the summer that the show is set in, like this post did for example, and if you're like me, you might headcanon phineas and ferb's summer taking place somewhere between 2009 and 2012. the other times where they've crossed over is set whenever it makes sense. the pnf effect? i think its pretty much canon that it takes place in 2017, what with all the pop culture references like pokemon go, dabbing, and uptown funk. definitely things you can date back to that mid 2010s era.
milo murphy's law also makes sure it stays current too, like specifically mentioning the year 2016 when the lumberzacks formed, milo's bag of toothbrushes labeled 2012-2014, and king pistachion doing a selfie with everyone which is like the most 2016 thing ever. (you guys remember the oscars selfie?) there's certainly some purpose behind dating some of the events within the show, since its entire B-plot is about time travel, but it doesn't feel like its really trying to be a current show. at least, not until they have references and allusions to pop culture things like ducky mo-go.
hamster and gretel has what is unfortunately the worst display of the three - there's a lot of social media references in the show. not necessarily memes, but just a lot of display of the characters using social media. the first one that comes to mind is the destructress, where her typical Thing is her doing a livestream or some kind of story update announcement with her phone, clearly showing that this is a 2020s cartoon, and it feels the need to be very current. hell, eight year old gretel has an iphone in this show, but i won't go down the track of why that fact alone is so weird to me since it'll derail this entire analysis.
granted there are a LOT of inconsistencies throughout these three shows but the current year syndrome, although sometimes unavoidable, proves the fact there are multiple timelines - and they can be traced back to candace's flip phone.
so, what do we do with this?
I personally love cherry-picking the parts of canon that exist, purely from a selfish point of view but also because this universe allows for it. there are a lot of different endings or alternate paths these characters can go down, and as exemplified by act your age, we can either ignore them or embrace them. sure, it’s unlikely but there are some people who like the aya ending and say it’s their own canon, and others who like the ending where doof becomes professor time. or there's others, like me, who absolutely adore last day of summer as their timeline end. the openness of it in such a positive light makes it feel like it’s not even the ending for these characters.
it also begs the question - does everything go back to the status quo at the end of every phineas and ferb episode? well... it can't, really. most character arcs within the show are tied to events that happen, like monty and vanessa getting together, or buford joining the backyard gang, or even doof's slow arc to being a good, if not morally grey character.
no, it’s not a big deal that there’s a lot of different timelines in the sense you have to constantly think about it as you watch it. but it does present us with the classic conundrum: which one is actually canon? and to this, i say, pick your own ending. if you like cherry picking as much as I do, indulge yourself. skip episodes you don't like. ignore parts of canon that don't actually have that much impact on the timeline. hey, its not like the show doesn't allow for it!
#phineas and ferb#milo murphy's law#hamster and gretel#dwampyverse analysis#you thought i was in my insane era before? think again
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I had a dream last night that there was a new Hamster and Gretel episode released, and it was centered around Hiromi and Fred. I don't remember most of the plot, it was something along the lines of they were sneaking around in a big warehouse or something and the villain of the episode was running it.
The important part is that when Fred and Hiromi were trying to rescue the workers from the toxic smoke or whatever that the villain had released, the villain called out “Girls!” then corrected himself and was like “I mean kids! Kids!!” and now I really want something like that to happen in an upcoming episode.
#hamster and gretel#fred grant#hiromi tanaka#hamster and gretel fred#hamster and gretel hiromi#I just want some more Fred being nonbinary moments please#random thoughts
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This is one of my latest school work, we had to choose one of three prompts. The one I chose was "Hansel and Gretel except the oven doesn't work. What happens then?"
#my art#artists on tumblr#illustration#traditional art#fairy tales#hansel and gretel#pastel gore#original art#I am guessing this counts as pastel gore?#people at school really liked it so I thought I could post it here as well :)#if you ask yes everything was made with a ballpoint pen sksk#I mean the sketch was obviously made with a pencil but you get what I mean sksksk#my secret passion is working with ballpoint pens#vestiges from drawing shit in my notebooks
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there's just something about identities.
you lie as you breathe, weaving the illusion into reality until not even you know what's real and what's not. you start believing you truly are who you pretend to be, until the two of you are so deeply intertwined that it's impossible to separate fiction from fact.
you discard names and faces as needed, move on to a new life and a new opportunity, but you cannot forget what brought you to this point. you will not forget, because if you forget, then that time and place will be lost forever. if you forget, then there's no reason to keep going.
you really did think you were them. you delighted in their joys, mourned their losses, let their goals and beliefs shape you into who you are today. your entire sense of self has been built on them, on who they once were. but they're gone. and you are nothing but a pale imitation of their light.
you know you're not them. you could never be them. you think their loved ones know it too, but they can't face it. you're a liar, a fraud who has taken their place, but even that is better than admitting that they're really gone. that their light was snuffed out long ago, and this twisted version of them is all that remains.
you can't escape who you once were. your sins taint everything you do, your inner darkness pervades every inch of the life you've carved out for yourself. and every lie you speak, every false tale you tell in order to keep this new life, it's all just another weight on your shoulders. you will never be able to truly escape, and you know you deserve it. there's nothing that has happened to you that wasn't entirely your own fault.
you live only for their sake. they are the only thing you have left. you've destroyed anything else you could have had, all to protect them. they are everything to you. they have to be. you must live for them, die for them, offer up everything you are at their altar, because if you don't and they lose, then what was it all for?
you live and die and live and die again and again. you will never be granted the sweet embrace of death for long, for there is something twisted and broken in your very soul that spurs you ever on. you have to find something to cling to, something that will never die. your other half is with you always, until they're not, and you know you'll be reunited in the next life, but you're still alone now. madness threatens to consume you whole, so you throw yourself into blood and death in the hopes that it will keep the monster at bay. you are a broken vessel, a tool for others to use as they wish, and it has been so since before you ever came into this world. you attach yourself to one of the worst monsters of all, for they will protect you and stay with you, for they are the only trace you can find of the mother you lost so long ago.
you are not real. you were never real. you are simply a reflection, an ideal of someone in some long-forgotten land. your wishes, your hopes, your dreams, none of it mattered. the malice that threatened to tear your mind to shreds was manufactured, made to make their mistake disappear. you are not real, your life was a lie, your entire world was just an experiment to see if they could. you are not real, nothing was ever real, and now it's all destroyed.
you are not yourself. who you were is gone, your past self entirely erased. you are just your title now, a false prophet. you are revered as you sit atop your throne of lies, and your true name is never spoken- not even by yourself. still, you hold it close to your chest, clinging to those days when you were still free. you are trapped within a gilded cage, a puppet to be played with as they please. are you even human? or are you just a broken doll, without a heart and without any true life?
who are you? you cannot remember. there are so many people you could've been, so many lives and stories that might have once been your own. your story was always a tragedy, and it is only a matter of discovering which tragedy it was. you don't know if you want to remember, or if you'd rather forget. you don't know anything.
there's just something about identities.
#evillious chronicles#eve moonlit#irina clockworker#elluka clockworker#master of the court#riliane lucifen d'autriche#allen avadonia#gretel salmhofer#levia barisol#maria moonlit#michelle marlon#just some random thoughts#this got a little out of hand
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Ooooh so I'm beyond repair. I see
#saw hansel & gretel and little red riding hood and immediately thought of Cerise & those little fuckers from eah#im so ill#i should be put down#eah#ever after high
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Okay, I'm just going to gently put this out there.
If almost all your characters end up being neurodivergent-coded...
Chances are, you might be neurodivergent too.
That's just the vibe I'm getting, that's all.
One example of this I found was with Dan Povenmire and his (and Swampy's) shows.
Like, way too many characters could be read as neurodivergent. And then I found out he has ADHD, and then I'm like, "Oh, that makes a lot of sense!"
And now I'm low-key wondering if other creators that created the shows neurodivergent people tend to love are neurodivergent too. And video games.
It's just the vibe I'm getting.
#not undertale related#my thoughts#also i love phineas and ferb and milo murphy's law#shocker i know#hamster and gretel is great too :)
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Oh Nordle is Messed Up messed up.
It just kept getting worse. Professor Exclamation is a horrible parent. Which was obvious from the beginning but it just kept getting worse. He put on an act of normal nice parent, but he's constantly putting down Nordle and he's just accepted it. Like Nordle doesn't even feel insulted.
This would be his villain origin story if he wasn't rebelling from his villainous dad. I don't know what's worse. Professor Exclamation acting like he loves Nordle while constantly putting him down, or Doofensmirtz's parents not even bothering to pretend. I believe Professor Exclamation believes he loves his son, but that doesn't mean he DOES.
Also Professor Exclamation keeps referencing this Industrial accident that took his elbows. But he had to be pretty terrible before that too if he's been raising his son the way he has. Was the industrial accident just a convenient excuse to get into crime?
I was kind of worried that Tobor would be a worse off Norm, but unlike Norm who is still fighting for Doof to recognize him as a son, Tobor has been now recognized as Nordle's parental figure. Which is a relief. Nordle probably modeled the way he treated Tobor from his father. So he's continuing to break the cycle but this poor child.
Speaking of which where is this kids mother? How exactly does she fit into this mess? She's got to be a bad mother if this is happening, but like how bad?
Also while Nordle needs Help, he should not be getting that help from a fellow elementary student. Gretel is in in over her head. Gretel feels obligated to help Nordle, and while they are genuinely friends, Gretel should not have to take on the entire burden of helping Nordle work out his family issues. And his villainous upbringing. While also secretly being his father's greatest enemy. This will not end well. Most of these Nordle plotlines are falling on Gretel's shoulder alone. She needs more than Bailey's help.
I would NOT be surprised if Nordle doesn't take the reveal well if only because one of the few people who supported him was very likely only his friend to get at his dad.
#Sometimes I wonder if H&G isn't as good as Dan's previous shows I'm just biased in favor of it#But no#H&G is funny in its own right#I was laughing#but someone please help these children#hamster and gretel#nordle exclamation#hamster and gretel spoilers#i guess#h&g#please watch this show#I thought the Gretel shenanigans would be my least favorite part of the show but I have been pleasantly surprised
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CREATURES. MEDIEVAL . CAN YOU GUIDE ME?
(YES. OF COURSE)
@gert-the-disaster
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Alright.. Get this..
Ler!Hansel and Lee!Gretel >:3
I would love to see Gretel smile and laugh :3
And Hansel's claws just makes this even better-
And I'm sorry if you have to witness this (╥﹏╥)
Characters are NOT mine, credits to TheEdgyVerse for the characters TvT 👍
These two characters are from the comic "Hansel and Gretel" which y'all should check it out.. because this comic series is the most amazing (☆▽☆)
#Fpe#Fpe tickles#Lee!Gretel#Ler!Hansel#My dumb thoughts#I'm sorry about this TvT#I'm also sorry for the creator T^T#I'm sorry if y'all had to witness this (╥﹏╥)..#Sfw tickling community#sfw tickle#sfw tickle blog#sfw tickle art#sfw twords#Creator talks#creator thoughts#No hate pls (╥﹏╥)..
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New Hamster & Gretel theory: The superpower-granting aliens are (or are at least connected to) the same aliens from Season 2 of Milo Murphy's Law. Joanna Hausman voices a prominent member of both groups, so perhaps they're the same character?
#my thoughts#random thoughts#cartoon animation#disney animation#disney channel#hamster and gretel#dwampyverse#cartoon theories
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Do Nothing Day 🤝 Just Messing Around 🤝 Out On The Town
#I don't think I need to explain my thoughts here#phineas and ferb#pnf#milo murphy's law#mml#hamster & gretel#hamster and gretel#h&g
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Being in London is a constant stream of "Hey! That reminds me of a Doctor Who episode!"
I went to the Globe Theatre today (well, it's a replica, not the original, but it stands on the original site) and all I could think was "This is the building from that one Doctor Who episode!"
#hylian rambles#doctor who#anyways they did a musical version of hansel and gretel and it was good#my dad took photos of me with a phone box because he thought it was like the tardis#it was a red phone box not a police box but A for effort?
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bam! fairy tale au. which old fairy tale character is ur muse
#i can't decide on one for hana yet...#my first thought was the witch from hansel and gretel but it doesn't seem quite right mglfmb#i'm the video game boy; i'm the one who wins! 。・゚✫ ooc
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[sometimes the journey is easy]
sometimes the journey is easy, and sometimes you have to find the way back to yourself by hansel and gretel bread crumbs in the dead of night, when the witch is you, and every part of you is weary, and aching for the oven-- and sometimes you wind up being your own coven--just you and the heather, and the hateful weather, and the voices in your head grimly taking the stead of all your lovers and family and friends and you think: is this where it ends? is this what life has made of me? am i nothing more than tottering feet on the wrong road trying to find the wrong way home?
#poetry#poem#poems on tumblr#spilled ink#spilled poetry#original poem#writing#writers on tumblr#writerscommunity#spilled thoughts#hansel and gretel#fairy tales
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