#thoughts about sherliam

[femboykyo]

William and Sherlock playing in the snow because those two need more moments of healing their inner child. I need to read fics/see art of the two throwing snowballs or speeding and drinking hot chocolate. I want sweet kisses near a fireplace as they snuggle on the couch. I want them making cookies and (in a modern setting) watching Christmas movies with the only lights on in the house being Christmas lights. I want them to walk around town while the snow slowly falls and Sherlock almost falling and causing William to laugh so hard he's crying.

[ryuusea]

「 With you 」 (always)

[clockajoy]

i need someone to make a blog full of relationship prompts except they're all reddit posts please

like just read this .

[fallingyams]

(Sorry my Op.5 hype is off the charts: super long post up ahead with a bit of analysis into why Sherlock says the things he does to convince William to live)

Can I just say that Morimyu Op. 3 does a fantastic job at setting up the confrontation between William and Sherlock?

William sings, conflicted, about whether he can still find forgiveness. His mind is set on dying (alone), but there's a part of his heart that wavers.

AND THEN. AND THEN!!!!! SHERLOCK MEETS HIM IN DURHAM AND TELLS HIM

A crime is still a crime, no matter how noble the intention. He cannot forgive killing others and using the deaths of people, even despicable people. (Which is beautifully contrasted against the Jack the Ripper case btw). He will catch the Lord of Crime and punish him for his actions.

It's at that point that William turns a bit sorrowful and resigned (and Shogo's expression is so!!!! SO!!!!! wow his despair is palpable) almost as if he's thinking to himself 'as expected, there is no forgiveness for someone like me' and probably solidifies his idea that death is the only suitable recompense for him.

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ANYWAY back to the manga itself

His sorrowful condemnation:

I think that it's precisely because of this, the only person whose forgiveness can change his mind is Sherlock.

It doesn't matter that Fred or Louis or what any others think. They can call him a good person all they want, but it doesn't change the fact that in his mind, he is already condemned.

(Besides that, his accomplices are all evil because their plan is inherently evil to him. Their words hold little weight. A sinner can't save another.)

That is, until Sherlock tells him this.

And suddenly his entire worldview is upended. Because all this time, he believed there was only condemnation to be found for someone like him.

Sherlock, his righteous actor in the stage of London's crimes, has deemed him worthy of redemption.

And if the one good person thinks that William can be saved...

But no! How can believe that? William James Moriarty is the devil incarnate. He is stained. His sins are unforgivable, no matter what Sherlock says. Murder is unforgivable, right?

So Sherlock flips the script.

He reminds William that HE is also a criminal and murderer. (It's a perfect crime in the eyes of the law, but William knows the truth)

He becomes the mirror reflecting William's image so that William can come to the realisation that they are all capable of good and evil.

The greatest evil is capable of good.

The greatest good (Sherlock - in Liam's eyes, at least) is capable of evil.

And if William can still think of Sherlock as good despite this,

And if William can forgive Sherlock for murder...

Then why can't William himself be forgiven for murder?

I think, in some ways, here Sherlock also confesses that he has lost the mandate or the right to catch William as a detective on the right side of the law.

He's not standing there as someone catching a criminal.

They're now standing as equals. Friends (or whatever you call that tension they have going on LOL), rivals, equals.

It's no longer "catch" in the criminal sense, but to "catch" a falling friend. A trust fall, if you will.

(It just occurred to me that the whole chapter is just a trust fall exercise on a large scale LMAO)

This changes the whole trajectory of what William believes in. That seed of doubt has been planted in him - that he could, perhaps, still find forgiveness.

More importantly, that he has Sherlock's forgiveness.

And that is what allows him to live on.

[shreddedleopard]

More Sherliam thoughts/headcanons:

I present to you;

Sherlock Holmes who is averse to physical displays of affection/ fondness, who has spent his life avoiding the typical family hugs, elbow and back touches, shoulder bumps, even the playful shoving and back and forth of teenage boys. It gets on his nerves.

Then along comes Liam, and Sherlock is suddenly gripped with this need to touch, in any way shape or form — the urge to tease and shove and poke and throw an arm around shoulders or guide by the elbow or steady at the small of the back or shoulder barge playfully or grab a hand or or or —

And it’s so new and terrifying and exhilarating all at once and he cannot control the way it all spills over when they’re together in New York and he fucking knows Billy is watching him and smirking but bugger it.

Is this what normal people do? Is this the result of pointless but typical human urges?

Liam doesn’t seem to mind. Does he? Or does he? He’d push back if he did, wouldn’t he?

How the hell is Sherlock meant to know how all this works when he’s never given a rat’s ass about any of it before??

UGH.

And then, Liam:

The boy who was the rock from such a young age, who never received gestures of physical affection, only gave them when needed to his baby brother, but never asked or expected anything for himself, even at the nice orphanages, even from the kindest sisters.

Who avoided typical rough-housing child’s play because he had bigger things to worry about and plans to see through their end and adults to impress with his mind so that he could provide for Louis.

The touch starved man who now, suddenly, finds himself on the receiving end of frequent, fleeting body contact from his newfound friend and intellectual soul mate; who is absolutely acutely aware of each and every brush of an arm or tug on a sleeve or elbow to the ribs or arm around a back or forehead against a shoulder or toe to a shin beneath the kitchen table or or or —

And it’s so new and terrifying and exhilarating all at once and he cannot control the way he aches for every touch to come more frequently; for the contact to last longer; for the gesture to become more.

But he’s taught himself not to want and not to ask and not to be any trouble to anyone, because that’s how you get by in life and make acquaintances who feel like they need you, so he doesn’t voice any of this aloud. He just grins softly and accepts the gestures gracefully and contains the spontaneous combustion he feels inwardly, in case it might burn Sherlock or put him off continuing to be so physically present with him.

Billy, however, is neither touch-repellent nor touch-starved and can see through the both of them and if they don’t snap the goddamn tension soon he’s gonna snap it for them.

[blue-howlite]

William fell first, Sherlock fell harder.

[liliumofthevalleyy]

I actually see the point in this, but I also want to back up the reverse.

William, around strangers he geuninely helps/people he cares for in general, is a literal sun, his support and aid shines like fire (Helena who has a condition that lets her see people as shapes and textures by their sounds, and what not, said William is like a bright warm flame)¹. His inner circle, mainly Albert, Louis, and Moran see him as their light.

Arguably, the opposite could be said for Sherlock, not many people see him as a "bright light/fire" but rather the opposite. His "light" doesn't affect people directly or as brightly, but subtly/indirectly. His ways of doing things seem inconsiderate at first (and straight-up mean/a bit ridiculous?)² but it ends up helping the target peron/people in the end.

Now I see William as the moon and Sherlock as the sun, BUT that's strictly for these two's relationship. William would not hesitate to help someone in need or be their comforting shoulder. Tho, he himself needs one more than anyone, and is pretty closed off about himself no-one knows what he is thinking at times (Albert is said to be the only one so far to be the closest to know much about what Will keeps hidden behind his heart before the final problem)³. He's kind of the moon in this sense, closed-off, quiet, dark. And speaking from the anime pov, whenever he's honest about his "issues", the whole scene is just dark and low-dimmed (like when he was honest with Fred)⁴.

Sherlock still wanted to befriend him even after William's identity as LOC was confirmed to him, and despite the stage that was played out for him to "kill" William in front of all the citizens in the Final Problem. He didn't. He went out the extra mile and kept on trying to help Will even when Will fought seriously and refused his help. And when Sherlock still stretched out his arm for him when they were literally falling to their death, (still have no idea how in the manga logic did they survive that), the whole scene in the anime episode became "brighter" and in the manga William later explains how his world "lit up" with the illustrator using an unlit fireplace lighting up as a refrence. What lits up a fireplace? Fire.

Later we see their interactions with Sherlock being out-going for William.

Basically, Sherlock is William's sun but he is(used to be?) a Moon, and William is vice versa.

Guides:

1- The spin-off manga yuukoku no moriarty: The Remains, chapter 5.

2- Main manga, chapter 7. The way he planned for Miss Hudson to get into THAT kind of trouble just so she approves of John as a flatmate was too much honestly.

3- main manga, chapter 64.

4- main manga, chapter 49. Anime, season 1 part 2 episode 12.

This is entirely unimportant, but I'm surprised by the amount of times I see this reversed in fandom, so:

William is not the moon, he is clearly the sun, and Sherlock is not the sun, he is clearly the moon.

And not just because of the super strong fire and water motifs.

You know what's a light in the darkness? Not the fucking sun.

You know what's so bright everything around it seems dark? The sun.

William is warm and bright and consistent and sheds light on and warmth on everything and everyone near him and if you get too close, you burn and can't see anything but darkness around you.

Sherlock is cool and moody and turbulent and reflects the light he can find to create a softer guiding light for those who can no longer see the sun.

TL;DR William's stupid and we should ignore things he says sometimes.

[rifulofthewest]

My take and analysis on why MTP anime adaptations is so bad

(I recently rewatched anime and wrote a whole list of reasons)

1. Intentionally left out details

At its core, MTP is a detective anime.

The details in a detective stories are very important. The writer left them there on purpose, they all lead to something

• Starting with the biggest change: only Albert kills a human being during the first burning of the estate (with his own hands; all the residents died from the fire they created)

Which, from the perspective of the progress of plot, cancels out all Albert's internal conflict.

All the time he worries that it's his fault that Will has become murder. That their joint murders are the only thing that keeps Will and Louis close to him, otherwise they would have long since forgotten about his existence.

This is the reason why Albert moves Jack to their estate, to give Louis more free time to participate in the murders and to convince himself that they will stay with him until the end BECAUSE all 3 of them are killers now.

None of this makes sense if Will only broke a chair for him and Albert was the only one who killed somebody that night.

This is also the reason why adult Albert is almost always absent from the anime. His character no longer makes sense.

2) Ignoring the political component (in political anime, hilarious)

There are many examples here, so I will mention just a few.

• The case of poisoning:

1. For some reason, Mr Burton is working in the aristocrat's garden instead of representing the interests of farmers

2. The whole rent storyline simply doesn't exist when it is Moriarty's main weapon to win good publicity from the townspeople

• the Kidnapping chapter, which was a direct continuation of Will's investigation into drugs at the university (the pregnant girl on opium who was thrown off a bridge)

3) Missing characters and missing backstories of characters who are present in the anime

Moneypenny

The Man with the Golden Army chapters (Sebastian's backstory)

3) The change in perspective was not replaced by anything

In the manga, we - readers - observe everything from the 1st person perspective: right from William's head.

We see his thoughts (sadness, empathy, planning), even if he cosplays a rock and shows no emotion

In anime, we observe from a 3rd person perspective: we act as a surveillance camera.

The characters either have to voice their thoughts in dialogue with others or do something to let us know what they are thinking

Which William does not do. His whole point is that he lies to everyone around him.

Therefore, the adaptation had to either make him more open with one of the characters (Albert was right there❗❗) or keep the first-person perspective and give the voice actor opportunity to voice over silent, emotionless William

In general, rewatching I got the impression that while the manga was actually focused on Moriarty's plan (albeit not to the desired level but still), the anime's goal was to adapt Sherliam only (even here they missed a couple of moments)

[karereiko]

The fairy tale of the Merman and the Seaweed (part1, page 1-4)

The first part of my big sherliam project is done.

Thank Ryo Hirano for this story because I watched Morimu op3 commentary video and he started a joke that he plays Sherlock in such swingly way, as if he was a seaweed, and until the end of that video Morimu cast kept joking about it. He even said that he can see in his mind all Seaweed Sherlock comments on the twitter after fans will watch this commentary.

I don't know if fandom did any Sherlock seaweed jokes back then anyway this was the moment the idea for story about Sherlock Seaweed started to born in my head and my mind quickly added to this that the merman William would be perfect for that setting.

The first image I saw in my head was that joke scene with merman William showing seaweed Sherlock to his family. From that moment story grew into ways I didn't think it will grow, but that you will see in the future, no spoilers for now.

This story will be my biggest project in years for sure. I wanted to try Witch Hat Atelier style since this story is kinda fairytale and because I wanted to do something pretty once in my life and draw nice backgrounds since I never liked doing them.

How many parts this story will it have? Well, for now I have half of story fully done in text matter, around 2/3 of rest is in draft stage so I kinda need to write the ending of it to have story in text form done. As for full pages with drawings, well I will try to upload 3-4 pages every month, since doing those details take some time. I think full story will be around 30 pages? I will know surely after I write last part. Pray for me to finish it, my goal is to do it this year.

Thought to not get annoyed while doing it I will do other, smaller stuff from Yuumori too.

[mirrorcatcreditcard]

List of your favourite MTP characters and why

This has been sitting in my inbox for so long that I just decided I need to answer now: there aren't many characters I don't like or enjoy watching but my favorites are

Louis

Fred

Milverton

"why"

Easy, seeing them on screen is hypnotizing.

Louis captivated my interest from the moment he picked up that burning piece of wood, and the fascination never dropped. His loyalty and love are often overlooked in the fandom, and nobody really talks about how objectively attractive he is (that I see, when I see; the whole fandom feels like SherLiam and then a few people holding for their dear lives to ask you to love other characters and their dynamics). His character really resonates with me, despite the fact that outwards we're pretty different.

Fred, the ever silent curious boy. I had a squish on him when I was younger and read this series; I used to daydream that we were besties and he'd show me around the city. He's such a cutie too, like a wild animal peering out from the bush (or in his case, his scarf). His actions speak for him, and he cares so much. I guess my type in favs to dissect is the often overlooked category. That's why I keep him as my pfp, even though I've wanted to change. We need more Fred lovers in this fandom.

"Why Milverton tho"

I didn't actually like hearing about him at all for the longest time and wished him a very "go to hell", but then I found his one true fan on Tumblr (you know who you are but in case you don't you're that dude that ships him with his right-hand and made/makes [I haven't been in the fandom tags recently] analysis content on him) and converted to enjoying the nuance of his character. He makes you enjoy hating him and is truly detestable. He's a very well written villain. If he wasn't scum of the earth, I'd want him as an ally. I don't like him, but he is my favorite antagonist in this show to see in action. I'm so glad he's gone.

P.S. I'm sorry for the late and low quality reply. It's been a pleasure having you in my inbox, reminded me that someone cared about what I thought on the low days.

P.P.S. I found the person who makes Milverton content that I admire it's @/miwhotep

[femboykyo]

If Sherlock and Liam are not a couple, why they wearing matching outfits like those kinds of couples huh 🤔😏

[ryuusea]

sleeve garters and shirt stays

they got carried away (my hands got carried away)

[user-needs-new-hyperfixation]

Trying to start a giant-ass meta on why I ship Mycroft/Albert and what there is to see of it and right off the bat I'm like...I want people to look at every single panel of their interactions.

No, it's not Sherliam levels. And BIG OLD DISCLAIMER: very little of what I'm going to present here is like "We were clearly intended to read it this way." I'll always argue that Sherliam is meant to be romantic: it hits so many well-established notes and tropes it's almost impossible to think otherwise. MycAl is a bit different. I do think it's definitely like...we're welcome and even invited to see it. But a LOT of my shipping it comes from the way I personally read and interpret things. So this is about explaining what I'm seeing that makes me ship it, rather than trying to be like "This is canon and you should agree with me." Anyway, for reference, I'll be using the official translation as far as it goes and then swapping to teawaffles' wonderful translation for the rest!

So...like right off the bat throughout the entirety of their Chapter 4 interactions their body language and expressions and ways of talking are so flirty? (Also, I still find it funny that in the manga Mycroft is introduced before Sherlock and thus Mycal is introduced before Sherliam. Older bros first lol.)

Maybe it's just that 2 decades on the internet have skewed me towards reading suggestiveness into everything, but the way Mycroft addresses Albert feels so flirtatious even if he's literally just being normal. "And what would an Indian Army official such as yourself want from an intelligence official such as myself this late in the evening?" Like...am I crazy? Does that not kinda sound like a porn intro? 😂 (This could also be Sherliam Side-effects. The way they call each other Professor and Detective in That One Scene is like...almost undeniably foreplay. Now every time anyone calls each other by title/profession/rank is this series I assume they're hitting on each other.)

But also Albert is just so...handsy throughout that scene. He's touching Mycroft's knickknacks, and just sort of limp-wristing all over the place. And I mean, I think that's just one of Albert's public-facing personas (customer service peeps, you know what's up) but it definitely lends itself to the existence of Vibes.

Anyway, there's this parallel of "You have my attention. What do you want?" that I think is kinda neat. (But look how comparatively sad Mycroft looks in the second version!!!)

Chapter 4:

Chapter 23:

Btw, in Scandal in the British Empire...why does Mycroft introduce himself to the Queen? Never mind, not why we're here. Again, my weird innuendo sensors perk up in Chapter 17 at "I did not drag you out of bed this early for nothing." Maybe it's because my perception of Victorian niceties, whether it's factual or not, is that there was this sense of avoiding talk of physical realities. We don't speak of pregnancy, we speak of "her condition" and "confinement." We don't "go to bed," we "retire." And so on. So conversely, it feels almost suggestive to even acknowledge that someone was in bed. In whatever state of undress the might imply. *Kellen Goff Sasaki voice:* OOOH how sCanDaLOus. (Mind you I DON'T believe there is anything of authorial intent in this, again, just trying to explain the factors that make me read things a certain way.)

The little mind games: Albert immediately recognizing that he's being tested, and Mycroft well aware that something is off, that he and Albert are using each other to their own ends. All juicy ship ingredients.

Then there's this...I can't articulate why it's important. But it is. Something about mouths and thoughts. If I wasn't terribly lazy, I'd go digging for examples in various manga series and I have a pretty firm suspicion that I could prove that, often, Mouth-Focus Thinking Panel + Name = Ship.

Jumping forward to the start of The Riot in New Scotland Yard (Chapter 29), Mycroft's demeanour has really changed. During the meeting at the British Museum he's radiating "I'm not angry I'm just disappointed" energy. He's tense, he's not sure if the Moriartys are enemies and when he understands their plan he seems understandably sad about it even as he accepts it. But now, he's radiating an almost Sherlock-like excitement. He's just gotten to see a miniature version of The Plan in action during the Jack the Ripper case, and it worked. He says he's just visiting Albert as an acquaintance (read: friend in Mycroftian), and that's what it feels like. They're chummy. It's cute. Also Albert teasing Mycroft over his squabbles with Sherlock when he leaves? When did Albert find out about that, hmm? (I mean, could be spying of course. But I like to think it just suggests they've talked more than we've seen.)

Annnnnd....cutting this part off here because I'm bored of it for now and it's long. I'll do the rest when the mood strikes. 😂

[fallingyams]

I have work to do but this thought has been rotting away at my brain for days now and so here I am just thinking back to Sherliam's first meeting and how fascinated Liam must have been???

Think about it. William is raised around people full of lies and deception and appearances. The noblemen are all about keeping up pretences and good relations and reputation. So meeting Sherlock with his honest and brazen attitude must have been a breath of fresh air.

Sherlock picks apart his entire thought process, laying out an analysis of clues about William's habits and profession. By any standard, this might be considered somewhat rude, especially to do this to a stranger you've just met. (And Sherlock isn't humble about it either lol)

And I can't help but wonder if this is why William was so enraptured from the first moment - he manages to do it right back to Sherlock (even sniffing him) and perhaps this was the moment that he realised that he doesn't need to have his guard up around this man.

Sherlock is brutally honest and can't be bothered with pretences. (He'll pick them apart anyway)

And so, around Sherlock, perhaps for the first time in a long while, William realises that he doesn't need to put on pretences in front of him.

With Sherlock, he doesn't need to be the second son of Moriarty. He doesn't need to be the lord of crime. He doesn't need to be any of these roles that he performs from day to day.

At least in front of this refreshingly honest man, perhaps Liam feels like he can just be

himself.

[shreddedleopard]

Sherliam-shaped ramble incoming 🥴🥺

Rewatched Morimyu op. 3 for the millionth time and can’t stop thinking about Albert’s words to William about leaving the real Jack The Ripper culprits’ bodies there for Sherlock to find, and how much trust William had in this man despite only having met him a handful of times.

Like he really said ‘you and I are on the same wavelength to the point that I trust you not to fuck up this whole scheme to unite the current discord in London between Whitechapel and the Yard without even exchanging an actual word with you on the subject.’

He must have really felt so … vindicated to have found someone who could take one look at his actions and piece together his real motivations behind his criminal acts. Sherlock quickly paints the Lord of Crime as a ‘Robin Hood’ figure who’s seeking to rebalance their world, and although he can’t forgive the law-breaking methods employed by Liam, he recognises that Liam took on that role and condemned himself for the sake of the common people.

William found someone who could identify the real heart of him, and then he trusted that person with his life — to carry out the real justice to balance out his wrong-doings.

You know, the more I think about it, the more it hurts and the more I love Sherlock. I think for William, the answer to Sherlock’s ‘why me?’ (Why not a perfect actor instead?) is that an actor might see William’s acts but not really understand them in the way Sherlock does, or care to, and that is incredibly important to William.

William knew he had to die because what he was doing was passing judgement in a way he shouldn’t really be allowed to do, in a fair and righteous world, but he has to do it that way in order to make an impact and affect change. But at least let the person who ends his life truly understand why they’re doing it — not because William is rotten and hateful at his core, but actually, filled with love and compassion for others, so much so that he’s willing to become the villain for everyone else’s sake.

I believe it was the last comfort he could hope for — to have his act, his show, his existence brought to an end by an individual who would not hate him or misunderstand him as they ‘pull the trigger.’

He called Sherlock ‘the real devil!’ angrily in their final (and only) fight on the bridge because Sherlock hesitated, and William’s hard-wired view of his own guilt pushed him to think that Sherlock’s moral compass might suddenly be off, and he lacked the conviction to condemn William to death as William believed should be the just and moral end to his plan.

But then he realises that actually, it’s not that Sherlock is weak hearted and unwilling to follow through with the path of justice. What William has underestimated is Sherlock’s own depth of compassion — but compassion for him, specifically. In all his planning, even in his joy at finding Sherlock — a man who would understand his goal and dream and what it might take to bring it to fruition — William had failed to account for the possibility that someone might be moved enough by his sacrifice to want to save him.

The idea that he is as deserving of love as everyone else is not a thought he’s allowed himself to entertain, and he steels his resolve and decides that he will jump himself if Sherlock cannot do it.

But this idea that Liam is an individual hugely deserving of love has been at the forefront of Sherlock’s mind for a long, long time before they faced off on that bridge.

Sherlock sees the role William has taken on — completely by himself. He understands the lonely truth of William’s compassionate and self sacrificing nature beneath the facade, and to this he says, I’m here, I am your friend, and I won’t let you do this by yourself anymore. I won’t let you fall alone.

They are just. Everything. The love is like a physical weight on my chest, I cannot. 😭

[getosbf]

I saw some people talking about yuumori character sexualities and just wanted to add my own headcanons <33

Sherlock: see now, we all know sherlock has been explicitly stating his... Repulsion (yes, not "oh im not attracted to them" straight up repulsion at the thought of being in a romantic and/or sexual relationship with them)

And im not saying sherlock is misogynistic. He has been seen very happily helping women with their cases. And might i add that on the Noahtic, while everyone was prancing around with a lady on his arm, sherlock was standing in the corner. Even though he was also with ladies he was CLEARLY in it only for their appreciation of him. Because you see, Sherlock is a clever man. He saw these bunch of women who had no one to dance with and was aware that they would be head over heels for his skills. And he was probably sent to the Noahtic by mycroft, so why not pass some time and get some praise?

But as soon as he met Liam he felt an instant obsession connection. Not necessarily romantic, but this is where that japanese feeling that i forgot the name of comes in. The feeling of meeting someone and instantly knowing that while you dont feel anything now, you could potentially be dynamic (is that the correct word, for sherliam i think it is)

And as i said and will say again, sherlock is a clever man. Of course he's not gonna sit around sexually frustrated, when he can easily use his charms and skills to find the right people. But as per literally canon, until he met Liam he didnt feel romantic (that comes later though, first was obsession) "attraction".

Conclusion? Gay demiromantic.

William: now while william never had a "repulsion" to women, I'd say he quite literally has a repulsion to any idea of a romantic relationship at all. He looked at london and got his "lemme fix that" hyperfixation game so heavy that he forgot he was alive most of the times. That man falls asleep on random occasions at literally anywhere at any time because he avoids sleep for his plans. Do you expect him to have any sort of romantic or sexual relationship? No, sir.

Then waltzes in Sherlock. Like i said, instant obsession. Though for William, that japanese feeling never came. While he was always hoping for a different reality where he and sherlock could be together, he never acknowledged his feelings enough to let himself feel something.

But talking about sexual attraction, while i do firmly believe Liam doesnt feel it for the better part of his life, he did start to feel some things a while after meeting sherlock. He fucking KNEW what he was doing with that "catch me if you can, mr holmes~" I think it surprised him too, all this strange emotions trickling in slowly after years of not feeling anything.

Conclusion? Demisexual AND demiromantic.

John: thought he was straight, but you all have seen his reaction to irene when they dressed up as the king of bohamia right? I'd say bisexual, but he's still learning to embrace that part of his identity. And even when he does embrace it, i dont think he's gonna do anything about it. Cuz like cmon, its 19th century London. Do you think he'll damn himself by loving a man when he is capable of what most people like him are not (to love someone of the opposite gender)? But I DO think he had a crush on louis for a while but i think that just for shits and giggles hehe

Louis: aroace. No questions asked. He loves in a very... Devotional way. Like liam and possibly albert, he has an unbreakable attachment to them. His love for their found family? He is soooo aro ace coded.

Albert: wineromantic. bisexual disaster.

Moran: pansexual just cuz. He loves his women but he has had something with albert and possibly james that is simply not heterosexual. And he was in the army cmon if there's a hole there's a goal

James: pansexual BECAUSE, hear me out, he had known this since he was a teenager. Which is why it took him until he got to Moriarty's to realise he actually wants to be a man. He had known men love him, so he was styling his hair and wearing tight corsets. He had known women loved him, so he was putting on disguises to kiss and snog. I think he was just so comfortable in his identity he never felt the need to be the opposite gender. But he was and, well, we're happy for our boy.

Fred: ace, maybe demi, and genderfluid. I might be projecting on the genderfluid part here but can you blame me? He/they pronouns.

Jack: he's above such measly attractions (idk maybe he was young he could have had something but idk anything while looking at him now)

Mycroft: gay gay homosexual gay. No straight man spends 30 minutes every morning putting pomade in his hair (hiding a part of your identity, already? Huh myckey?)

Miss hudson: straight because she didn't feel any (okay maybe somewhat) attraction to irene but when she met JAMES ouahahahaha

Herder: married to the grind 💪💪💪 making love to the game 💯💯💯 he only loves one thing and thats his craft 🔥🔥🔥

Just kidding he definitely has something gay going on

Billy: he has some WAY GAYER going on. Have never seen him interact with women (how gay) so i can't say much but he definitely gives bi/leaning on gay vibes