#those are my ship name ideas
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(holds all three in my hands) I just think they're neat
#listen Im not that into starop#but I do think Skyfire x Optimus (SkyOp?? JetOp?? they got some potential ship names) has some funny potential#skyfire and optimus trying to move on from their decepticon exes and falling in love with each other#meanwhile starscream in the back like ''exCUSE ME? YOU'RE DATING OPTIMUS FUCKING PRIME? NOT ON MY WATCH'' and becoming a weird third wheel#then they all kinda accidentally fall in love. all three of them. they try to make it work#I love the idea of ''divorced autobots trying to heal and learn to fall in love again while starscream tries to foil their relationship#only to accidentally fall in love with those two''#this is Also just the biggest middle finger they can give to Megatron and i think that's perfect#optimus looking at skyfire and starscream before going at megatron like ''well if you dont want them they can be with me''#megatron ''what''#imagining megs seeing his two greatest enemies and one of his traitor getting together. imagine being so shitty all your exes got together#the fire burns#the fire crackles with joy#low quality shitpost#transformers g1#transformers#skyfire#jetfire#starscream#optimus prime#skystar#starop#skyop#skystarop#new ship name dropped. at least their combined names actually work as a ship name
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also the version without speech bubbles has already been posted on the boop! day ;)
#spiderverse#atsv#deadpool#wade wilson#miguel o'hara#spiderman 2099#spiderman#spideypool#spiderypool#poolfang#fangpool#99pool#deadfang#i want to draw more stuff with them#because for once crackship took over my life XD#and i don't really want to spam the spideypool tag#but hey maybe people dont mind?#also if you have an extra ship name idea i'm so finding the best or funniest or just eye catching one and so doodling you a special request#obviously of those two idiots ;P
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Day 7: "female bullying" (reference under the cut)
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#I wasnt sure if I wanted ship on this blog#cuz I want it more about Amy than any ships in particular#but Metamy week starts tomorrow and I wont have time to do more than one drawing a day probably#so I'll prob be making those my Amy dailies as well#as for why i made this image its because a friend of mine showed me the reference and I thought it would be funny#amy rose#amy rose daily#sth#sonic#sonic fanart#please donate!#blazamy#metamy#blaze the cat#metal sonic#metblazamy?#blazemetamy?#i have no idea what the ship name for the three of them is oops
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is this anything at all
#homestar runner#i usually dont swear on my social medias idk what possessed me#champeen would swear though#trust me#marzipan#champeen#marzipeen#champizan#<- i dont think there’s ship names for this one… those are my ideas#also sadstar is mentioned
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Um. Very interesting caption.
#art#my art#epithet erased#naven nuknuk#yoomtah zing#epithet erased fanart#epithet erased art#naven x yoomtah#nyoom#zapped apples#I have no idea if those are the ship names
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big believer in keiko and kuwabara being besties like. you're my best friend's best friend and instead of it being awkward they realize "hey i really like hanging out with you!" this is ofc extremely detrimental to yusuke who now has two people on his ass
they share textbooks keiko quizzes kuwabara til he drops and she asks for fitness advice. why do i think this? I simply think it'd be funny asf if Keiko randomly got abs of steel. yusuke walks in on them doing sit ups while testing each other on vocab and almost breaks into tears.
"Keiko stop turning kuwabara into a fucking nerd he's wasting all his time studying instead of goofing off" "yusuke shut up and feel my abs" "holy shit these guys are like rock hard" "right??"
Kuwabara gets glasses and yusuke genuinely thinks it's a bit at first but kuwa is like "man seriously I realized part of the reason school was hard was cos I couldn't make out the words in my books half the time I need these things fr" classic yyh collapse in shock moment
Keiko and Kuwa are there for each other when yusuke goes off doing god knows what in Makai. They know he'll be back but it can be shitty not knowing what he's doing when he'll be back. Kuwabara reassures her that Yusuke does give a shit even when he leaves and Keiko reminds Kuwabara of why he doesn't need to drop everything and join him. He'll be back he'll be back he'll be back.
Kuwabara can only make simple meals Shizuru forced him to learn and Keiko doesn't really cook even tho her parents own a restaurant so when yusuke is in the human world there's cheers and applause "finally I get to eat 🙏🏼" "aren't you guys graduating college soon how are you surviving when I'm not here" "get back in the kitchen boy" "yeah I need another bowl 😌" "im poisoning ur food"
because girls and guys apparently can't just hang out school mates are sure Keiko is dating kuwabara but some think she's with yusuke and others think the two are fighting over her and she just looks at them like they're stupid if anyone ever asks directly
as for Kuwabara nobody knows whether he has a gf or a bf cos sometimes a polite brunette with a sweet smile visits him on campus and they talk at a picnic table (she's seen hitting him sometimes tho) but other times a guy with slicked back hair and devil may care attitude like. swaggers up to kuwa when he's with some classmates and drops a homemade lunch in his lap "you forgot this dumbass" "ahh thanks yusuke you're a life saver 🥺" "just eat your food" inside is the cutest box lunch and yusuke's glare keeps the people kuwa was with from cracking jokes. kuwabara acts like this is very normal
anyway i just think it'd be cool if they hung out and yusuke was equal parts delighted and grumpy about it
#this could be poly tbh i was really just going for a friendship angle but literally either makes sense#I just think Keiko would randomly wanna get fit to put some energy into something besides school and kuwa could help#yusuke is like oh no my smart friend and my strong friend are merging their traits and hanging out w/o me :( by talos...#he doesn't get left out ofc but they do gang up on him sometimes because they think it's hilarious#it's not lost on me the idea of yusuke being into intellectuals considering how smart those 2 are#I was just thinking about this cos I'm writing a kuwameshi fic rn#And it's Keiko pov so it focuses on her relationship with Kuwabara and how she fits into his and yusuke's dynamic#yu yu hakusho#keiko yukimura#yusuke urameshi#kazuma kuwabara#i guess i should tag this#kuwameshi#cos i do look at through that lens#idk if they have a poly ship name tho#important to note that when kuwa thanks yusuke for bringing lunch he's being insufferable and#using the the most over the top sweet voice poking fun at yusuke for basically malewifing himself
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You know what I find like intensely bewildering about the FOP fandom.
Is the fact that somehow it's still a debate among people about whether the kids in the Channel Chasers flash forward, Tammy and Tommy, are Timmy's kids with Trixie or Tootie.
Like they're very obviously supposed to be Tootie's kids.
Even when I saw Channel Chasers' ending as a literal kid, I instantly clocked the fact that Tootie was the mom and not Trixie, because neither kid looks anything like Trixie, and both have stuff inherited from Tootie.
So I'm putting this debate to bed right now.
The girl looks essentially like a mix of Tootie and Timmy's design (with long-ish hair that's down), while the boy is just Timmy with black hair and Tootie's nose and skin tone.
[What Tootie's skin tone was at the time Channel Chasers came out.
The show runners change the saturation of the show like 3 or 4 times over the years, and outright change some character's skin tones at some points.
Wanda for example also originally had lighter pinker skin in the earlier seasons, but it was changed to the same tanner/more orange toned skin as Timmy and Cosmo's.
Tootie however retained the lighter pinker skin, it's just that as they upped the saturation, her skin turned more pink.]
The Twins:
Tootie:
Timmy:
"But Trixie has black hair and blue eyes too, and the girl is wearing a headband just like Trixie's, so Trixie could still be the mom"-
Trixie is asian. Trixie is asian. Trixie. Is. Asian.
We can see Tommy's eyes, and we can tell he didn't inherit Trixie's eye shape, even though that would be perfect for making him not look like Timmy with his hair dyed black.
Not to mention neither has Trixie's nose. Or her height. Neither are rocking a turtle neck sweater, or boots.
Neither have Trixie's straight across bangs, the girl doesn't have Trixie's winged little eyelash, she has the same tri-prong eyelashes as Tootie.
Not to mention the girl twin's styling. She wears a plaid skirt and glasses just like Tootie's.
Sure she's got a pink headband instead of high pigtails like Tootie, but you know what other female character wears a pink headband?
Both Timantha and Timeena (only showed up in the comics, and is also a fairy), Timmy literally as a girl, wear pink headbands:
"What about the fact that Tootie has braces and Tammy doesn't?"
Tammy doesn't have any kind of tooth division at all, not even one showing where her top and bottom teeth separate in a lot of her scenes.
Even if the kids aren't a total one to one match with Tootie, they still look far far more like Tootie's kids than they do Trixie's.
Like even if the mom of Tammy and Tommy are someday confirmed to officially not be Tootie (which I doubt they'll ever do), I still wouldn't believe it's Trixie over just someone who looks pretty similar to Tootie and has a lot of the same features as Tootie.
As I've gotten older I've just become convinced that the people who honestly believe that Tommy and Tammy's mom is Trixie have just always been hardcore Timmy/Trixie shippers, and just didn't want to believe Timmy ended up with Tootie.
Which is fair. I don't want Timmy marrying into Vicky's family, or to Tootie at all. Girl has no boundaries, and is part of the worst possible family situation to marry into.
Considering A New Wish shows that Vicky hasn't changed at all in 20 years.
Also I know the show runners say that they have some traits of Trixie also thrown in to the kids to make it ambiguous who their mom is, but like where?
They don't have her eye shape, her eye color (they don't have Tootie or Timmy's eye colors either), her eyes being wide set (compared to Timmy and a lot of other characters), her nose, her height, her bangs, her eye lashes, her fashion sense, her straight hair.
They have literally nothing from Trixie, on either of the kid's designs.
Other than the fact that the girl wears pink and white, and a headband. But that's also just the color pallet of Tootie & Timmy combined (or just Timantha's), and all of Timmy's girl versions also wear some kind of headband.
They 100% designed Tommy and Tammy to be Timmy & Tootie's kids, and then decided that the mother was "intended to be ambiguous" when Timmy/Trixie shippers decided to head canon Trixie as the mom because we never see the mom or have her name dropped.
Because shipping drama fuels fandom interaction, which fuels ratings, and they didn't want to alienate the Timmy/Trixie part of the fandom by confirming Timmy/Tootie was endgame.
Though they tossed the idea of it being ambiguous who Timmy ends up with out the window in the live action trilogy and just made Tootie the end game of that canon.
So yeah, I've always thought Tootie was Tammy and Tommy's mom, but here's all my proof and reasoning.
Which as someone who did ship Timmy/Trixie as a kid, you could imagine that seeing Timmy's future kids look like Tootie and my main ship for the show wasn't endgame was kind of upsetting.
I could ramble on about the reasons why Tommy and Tammy are obviously Tootie's kids and not Trixie's for a whole lot longer. And the fact that they show up on Trixie's family tree on the wiki but not Tootie's, even though it's canonically supposed to be unconfirmed either way, irks me to no end.
But I'm going to cap this post right here. Maybe I'll bust out my punnet squares, and show why I think Tommy and Tammy being Trixie's is genetically impossible, some other time but I've thought about this too much today. But that day isn't today.
#fairly oddparents#fop channel chasers#fairly oddparents channel chasers#fop tammy and tommy#fop timmy#fop trixie#fop tootie#those kids are 100% tootie's kids#I was upset about this as a kid but eventually came to accept my ship (Timmy/Trixie) was not endgame#then shocked as an adult when I went to check out the wiki looking up all the godkids Cosmo and Wanda had#only to come to the twin's page to see their mom listed as both Tootie and Trixie and that the mother was intended to be ambiguous#I- bitch ambiguity where???#like Tootie and Trixie are different races there's no way to make the kids look like they have an equal chance of being either's kid#without inadvertently making the other an impossibility#giving Tammy long hair and a headband isn't enough to imply Trixie is her mom and I refuse to apologize for that stance#like I'm sorry but those kids are just white#I wanted them to be Trixie's too but even 5 year old me could instantly tell the girl was heavily based on Tootie#like Trixe/Timmy shippers have to let go of the idea that Tommy and Tammy are Trixie's kids#first of all I don't think Trixie would let them go around being called Tommy and Tammy#not to mention Tammy's middle name is just Tricia as in the shortening of Patrica#and I don't think she'd go along with her husband and both kids all having the initials TTT#only Tootie is a big enough Timmy fanboy to want that
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(024) Due to [plot device/s], Garp winds up at the Baratie, immediately getting into a fight with one of the chef's and breaking at least two tables in the process. This, of course, pisses off the owner, Zeff, who gives the marine a piece of his mind in the form of a kick in the ass.
And thus begins the romance between two old men with far too much time on their hands and far too little shame.
#op fic ideas#one piece#monkey d. garp#red leg zeff#garp x zeff#idk the ship name#EDIT:#zarp#geff#i have been informed that those are my only options#but i would also like to propose a third:#zerp
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Those aus where the characters never meet but it’s hannigram and they just don’t have a reason to. Not that that would stop them but maybe Will was recommended a different psychiatrist or left the field entirely, dropped off the face of the earth. He would be the talk of psychiatric circles but Hannibal would never have a reason or opportunity to seek him out. Hear his name in passing and move on, never see his face and fall in love. And maybe they walk by each other but by the time they look back it’s too late. A brushing of shoulders Hannibal would find rude and that Will would go out of his way to avoid but didn’t. A scent that Hannibal inhales and can’t let go of (he wants to, it bothers him) but can’t trace its source because Will already walked away. But he had gone still. Just for a moment, uncertain of why…
They never do get an answer. Not this time. Perhaps they’ll both feel something missing, distantly and locked away.
It’s like outside forces divine intervention are keeping them apart.
#i hate these kinds of ideas because i refuse to believe a ship did not find each other in every universe but it doesn’t stop one from#thinking otherwise#this is only a loose thought#courtesy of a different idea of them meeting years earlier seeing each other entirely but Will makes the decision that they are better off#without (they’re not. they’re ruined without each other). and somewhere along those years apart Will forgets. it’s difficult but easier#and he isn’t any happier and doesn’t realise what- who he is missing until they see each other again#the silly part: Hannibal was caught but it’s because of an agent’s dumb luck and having backup. so it’s in a bit of sotl fashion#he is unaware of who is meeting with him and Will either is too occupied in his mind to really catch the name of the man or only goes#in with what information he already has on the previous case he refused (subconsciously turning a blind eye to) so they’re surprised#and Will remembers. and somewhere along the line he decides (probably from the start) Hannibal is on the wrong side of the glass#dumping a bit of that here for no reason i suppose#hannibal#nbc hannibal#will graham#hannibal lecter#hannigram#text post#my stuff
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and what if i was thinking about my werewolf jimmy + vampire tango au more?? what if i was thinking about OTHER characters? this is spinning around in my head so i'm gonna dump it here,, dshjshjk
it's mentioned one-off in the fic, but tango knows the only werewolves in the city live ACROSS THE CITY from him meaning that jimmy was literally trekking across the entire damn city to go see tango and walk him home from work ;-; they're both so dumb hsjhsjkdk
Joe is one of Tango's co-workers at the cafe where he works. no-one knows what's up with him, but when he starts telling a story you have to sit and listen to him finish it. you can't leave until he's stopped talking. those that are aware of the supernatural know that he's not some kind of siren, but they still don't know what he is. they've got a discussion going on in the "supernatural circles" they've got going on. Joe finds this endlessly hilarious.
There's several other vampires in the city, all of which try to keep out of each other's way. Tango and Mumbo are two of these vampires (the others are undecided/background characters). HOWEVER! they do meet up once a month at Tango's place of work (mainly because he's always working a shift when they want to meet) to discuss what areas to avoid because someone's gone and bitten a few too many people there recently and the locals are setting up Facebook pages to try and figure out what's happening
Scott and Lizzie are both sirens. Scott is a swim teacher, and parents bring children that have difficulty with fear of water/swimming to where he works because he just seems "magical" with how he's teaching their kids to swim (he's enchanting them. he's enchanting them into enjoying swimming)
Grian, Joel and Jimmy are the only pack of wolves in their city, and they all call each other "brothers" despite not actually being related because they all got turned around the same time and were friends in school together. (they all got bitten together because they were all being IDIOTS together)
Pearl lives in the next city over and is also a werewolf, but is more of a lone wolf than the others. She lives with her dog Tilly, and that's her "pack"
There's an actual werewolf pack in this other city, which is home to Ren, Martyn and Bdubs. Etho is also technically part of this group, but he's also a "were-fox" (idk even know if those exist it just seems fun to me) and goes between the two cities because he has friends in both
just ouagghh, cannot write for this at the moment because i've got exams but i am THINKING about this, spinning it in my brain like it's a microwave, come talk to me about it please hdsjhdsjksjk ;-;
#the series name idea i have for this is so silly too#it'll just be the werewolf jimmy au for now#but the actual name is:#i bet you howl at the moon don't you?#idk why. i just find it funny#jimmy solidarity#tangotek#solidaritek#trafficshipping#is this gonna have other ships too? probably but they wont be the forefront#current thouts are treebark and ethubs. bc those have been tickling my brain recently
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them,,,,,
i messed up so badly on mary’s eye omfg it looks horrid😓
#samuel seabury#mary hicks#mary hicks seabury#ngl they need a ship name give me ideas#thinking something like seahicks#<- but at the same time what if it was one of those cool silly ship names like how the bmc people have#idk ill think about it 🤗#if anyone draws my mary design im kissing you on the lips#hamilton#hamilton musical
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Guess who's playing Steamworld Heist 2 and isn't being normal about it
#dw this isn't spoiler#tho i wish quincy having two moms was real#clearly we're overlooking a clear answer here people#krakenbane and piper faraday can both be Quincy's moms. they're secretly dating this entire time.#he just doesn't know#listen the idea of Piper x Krakenbane wouldn't leave my mind#like just think about it and it gets better the longer you think about it#they were dating before canon started? they got together when Krakenbane went to the Core system and met Piper. they hit it off great#they were dating when canon was happening? Piper went out to Quincy without realizing he was Krakenbane's son. it was far too late when she#realized and knew it was too awkward to bring it up after they're working together so she just doesn't and hope Krakenbane will tell him#they're dating after canon? Piper and Krakenbane get to be cute together out in space while Quincy has no clue his hero is dating his mom#it's funny. its great. there's so much potential#i might make a different post altogether about those two#anyway#piper faraday#krakenbane#piper x krakenbane#NEW SHIP JUST DROPPED#i need to come up with a ship name for them#steamworld heist 2#steamworld heist#quincy leeway#spoilers#kinda?? its real vague but its there ig#the fire burns#the fire crackles with joy
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Ippo doodles and unfinished stuff
#kebb's art#hajime no ippo#hajime no ippo fanart#ippo makunouchi#sawamura ryuhei#sendo takeshi#miyata ichiro#volg zangief#these sketches of ippo and sawamura were the firsts i drew of them in what. 4 years. yeah.#you can see i like sawamura a normal amount.#sawaippo#i have no fucking idea what ippo/sawamura ship name is but i am a bit insane bout them idiots so yeah. sawaippo. ipposawa. eh.#many people in the ippo loving club but those four are the first ones that came to my mind yeah
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sometimes like this. But also like that.
#trainer kieran#rival kieran#hydrapple#kieran's hydrapple#cw: suggestive#aaand idk what else to tag this with but you know you can always ask me to throw in tags 'w'#man my hand hurts a bit after wee 3h of drawing??? geez#anyway had this idea in my head for maybe three weeks now and i am glad to have this one out#maybe i could work more on it but i dont wanna overdo myuself so#those two dont have a ship name and i'm sad#uhhh#cw: pokephilia#oh yeah that's an important bit lmao#watch me and my fail art#yeah it is a bit ns for t but i see no reason to not post so whatevvvvvv#yeehaw
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okay. massages temples. it's time for. a star trek update. last night we did voy's "the omega directive" and (grits teeth) ds9's "his way."
the omega directive (voy):
right out of the gate, it's really difficult how many times they said the word "omega" in this episode. i tried very hard to take it seriously but only succeeded for about 60-70% of the time
we had our first real seven/chakotay scene in this episode, outside of him being the one to help sever her from the collective. i still don't totally see janeway/chakotay/seven in my mind palace but i'm working on it.
loved also the chakotay and janeway conversation but "closest friend" lol like we are literally being hetbaited. tuvok is her closest friend. b'elanna is probably chakotay's closest friend. janeway and chakotay are not close friends, they are lovers. not that being lovers means you can't also be friends! but that's not how they made him say it.
i thought this was a really good episode like...touching on seven's idea of religion/spirituality (even if we had to work in some racism re: chakotay's spirituality) without being too heavy-handed or dumb
janeway and seven clashing once again...mwah. ✌👅 or whatever. i admit sometimes this feels a little repetitive, but because both actresses deliver such good performances, i can't be too disappointed.
i am grinding my teeth a little at the logistic details of this episode. while the character stuff was very good and a WELCOME relief after a string of truly horrendous episodes, the plot was like swiss cheese. destroying this particle supersedes the prime directive? what happened to it being, you know, prime? in fact, BECAUSE they destroyed it, an entire civilization will die...not because of the prime directive but because we chose to ignore it. which you can't do! it's the prime directive! how imperialist for the utopic fedderation to impose their laws on civilzations that haven't even reached warp yet! janeway is trying to protect the safety of this quadrant? it's not even her quadrant! what gives her the right! is she just that afraid of losing warp capability and hiding behind federation regulations? let's dig into that! except they dug into none of that. a glaring flaw on an otherwise really good episode.
his way (ds9):
i don't want to talk about it........BUT I'M GONNA
(i actually ran into the character limit for paragraphs talking about it, so i have abandoned the normal bullet list format lol)
man, okay, like...how do i even begin to express my disappointment. not just in a ds9 let me down way but in like your favorite teacher being disapointed in you kind of way. the old janeway lecture in the ready room kind of disappointment. just a bone-deep, didn't-know-anyone-was-capable-of-fucking-up-this-bad, disappointment.
ik i said this already but no WONDER people hate kira/odo as a ship, down to even the actors. i've had some problems with how it's been portrayed lately (6.03 and 6.04 what were we DOING), but i've been willing to ignore them because i'm used to giving ds9 the benefit of the doubt and because i like the ship so much. after reading the summary i knew this episode would be bad and possibly also have kira/odo content and was prepared to try and enjoy whatever i could and write off the rest. but this was just unforgivable start to finish. i couldn't find even a single moment i liked.
let's start with the obvious, most egregious offense: kira does NOT want to be hologrammed. we had an ENTIRE EPISODE about it in which ODO HIMSELF helps her yell at quark about it. making her up as a hologram for odo to practice his kira wooing skills on was a huge violation of her rights, wishes, autonomy, etc. she should have been furious. this episode definitely commits a lot of sins, but i think this is the one that is most blatantly disrespectful, and also ties in to the biggest issue i had (more on that in a second).
the holodeck character was fine, or could have been fine. as far as holodeck episodes go, if any show could make me like them, it'd have been ds9. and the guy himself was FINE, and likable even, until he started breaking the rules of what was possible (contacting odo through the communications system when his hologram should have been deactivated, for example), and what was ethical (setting odo and kira up under false pretenses). now suddenly he is annoying and i hate him (and i feel bad saying this, because i know fandom likes him and his actor recently passed away - this episode was not his fault!!). illogical and unethical holodeck fuckery is the LAST thing i expect from ds9, which always sets out to critique some of the things from other star trek shows that make no sense or ignore potential ramifications of hand wavey world-building, which, again, HAD AN EPISODE ABOUT IT BEING UNETHICAL TO HOLODECK KIRA.
i think also it's really weird and unfair to suggest, through quark, that odo "waited too long" to make a move on kira when they SPECIFICALLY had an entire conversation (that i loved!) about how odo had been thinking about asking her to dinner and then decided not to because of the impending threat of cardassian takeover. they MUTUALLY AGREED ON and were MUTUALLY RELIEVED BY the idea of putting the revelation of odo's feelings to the side to focus on business, and that conversation actually allowed a really unique and lovely dynamic to form in a very organic way - odo loves her, and she knows he loves her, but the burden of having to give him a response to those feelings is totally removed. he's not asking for a response. he isn't asking for anything. she isn't obligated to give him anything. and on the flip side, he is relieved from the burden of having to hide that love. it is simply allowed to exist peacefully between them. this ALSO ties into the biggest issue i had with this writing, which is...
where were kira and odo? cuz they weren't in this episode. we seemed to forget their histories, their desires, their dynamic, and even their god damn personalities in order to replace them with some vaguely uncharming couple from a low-budget hallmark romcom?? hello???
like, think of the popular trek romances, or the couples that fans think of romantically. spock and kirk (and bones if you like) are people defined by loneliness who understand each other on a deep level they can't get elsewhere and soothe that loneliness with each other. both spock and bones and janeway and seven challenge each other's ideas of humanity and how the world works. chakotay finds peace in serving janeway's needs after the turmoil of a hopeless war and she finds a safe place to let go of her captain job with him. dax's flippant personality encourages worf to relax and his strict personality gives her someone to both tease and rely on. sisko and kassidy get to nerd out about baseball together, yet both understand their duty/morals come before their feelings. julian and garak both understands what it is to need forgiveness, and julian's compassion plays well off of the cold-hearted nature of a former obsidian order operative. even in fucking TNG, you had will and deanna who both love trying new things and are down to clown and want to go on adventures together. kira and odo have a dynamic, too, but it was not present in this episode - this, the episode where after FOUR SEASONS OF BAIT they finally make it official??
like, odo is stiff and unyielding, yes - but that means he doesn't find it in himself to loosen up by playing a fake piano for fake people. even DATA, in fucking tng, recognized that when he told bad jokes to a fake crowd and they laughed anyway because they were programmed to do that, that the entire exercise was without meaning. and data is WAY more autistic than odo, all my love to both. odo is not some nice guy incel type who wants to have kira simply for the sake of having her - he didn't fuck anybody in his entire life until like season 5 and that episode was ALSO really fucking bad. odo doesn't need to loosen up in order to pursue kira - IT IS KIRA WHO MAKES HIM LESS UNYIELDING. that is the entire point of them! when they first met, they were both seen as beings without personhood, whose lives had no value. she appealed to his humanity and asked him to see hers so she wouldn't be left to the mercies of the cardassians. it worked because she appealed to the HUMAN inisde him (for lack of a better word) which no one had ever done before. in heart of stone, he even says to the fake kira that she changed the way he felt about his OWN NAME, which was given to him because it was the cardassian word for NOTHING. HE WAS NOTHING. SHE SAW HIM AS MORE THAN THAT. this is, CANONICALLY, the basis of this relationship. this episode was so good BECAUSE he discovered such a pivotal moment was based on a lie. it was IMPORTANT.
and kira in this episode had almost no voice at all. she was someone to be sought after, chased, and then ultimately had after her "perfect moment of clarity" - which then lost meaning because she had two in a row - and which we never got to HEAR about. how does she FEEL? this is the episode where they get to together! but she never gets to tell us. it's an egregious offense considering her voice is usually a loud one, like her emotions - so loud, in fact, that odo is usually kira's rock, her calming presence. from the very first season, she has gone to him in times of emotional turmoil, because he so rarely lets that kind of turmoil rock his boat. he keeps a level demeanor, and he is able to sort through a lot of her anger and fears with a level head. when she is considering betraying an old friend in the THIRD!!! EPISODE!!! odo is the one she turns to. odo always has her coffee and reports ready on time. he will inform her if anyone she knows comes to the station or goes missing or whatever. he respects her wishes even when he doesn't agree with them. the fake kira, a perfect replica by most estimations, even agreed that they were not the type to bullshit each other. odo is safety and predictability in the stormy environment of a post-war bajor. WHAT WAS HER MOMENT OF CLARITY? probably not that, but we'll never know because SHE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO TELL US. she existed only to be pursued. the episode is even called "his way" - yes, a play on "my way" by frank sinatra, but still - it's like odo finally got HIS WAY and was able to have kira like he'd always wanted. "i've waited so long to hold you like this" is there really NOTHING else he wanted from that relationship? one might even argue odo wouldn't know what to do with that kind of love, how to express it in ways like physical affection - that could be part of why he was able to love her silently for so long. we saw hints of this in the season 5 episode, with future odo - there was a distinct lack of that odo telling her what she meant to him and why, which is nuts, considering our own odo was able to do that for lwaxana troi at their FAKE WEDDING when he only loved her platonically - but at least that episode had personality and merit. this had none.
and for all the trappings - the candlelit dinners, the music, the fancy dresses - this episode was DEVOID of true romance. the only moment where they had any chemistry at all was the kiss, and it was entirely out of character. a bicker-bicker-kiss scenario is GREAT and it's one of my favorites, but it doesn't fit THESE CHARACTERS. the kiss they shared in season 5, with future odo, had more personality than the one from this episode. in that, you could feel his longing, the release of his pain, and her uncertainty, along with her compassion in wanting to give that to him. in this, they got mad, and it happened so fast...but they aren't a bickership. i love kiraodo, and i love bickerships, the two things are just NOT the same. kira and odo argue only very rarely and when they do it's about very serious shit, like, kira's fucking worldview in "you take down the cardassians with me or i will fight you too" kinda shit. "our first meeting was based on a lie" kind of shit. they COULD have had a knockdown dragout fight about odo's use of a holo-kira (which wasn't even his idea, to be fair, but given his normal respect of her autonomy was EXTREMELY out of character for him to agree to use), but she wasn't allowed to have opinions or a personality in this episode, so they instead argued over absolutely nothing to shoehorn in a romcom scene that did an injustice to both the characters and their relationship.
furthermore: ableism. walk with me here. again, odo and kira MUTUALLY AGREED to put the question of a romantic relationship on hold for the time being. if both or one of them were ready to pursue that question again, both of them are capable of bringing that up like the adults that they are because part of this dynamic that they have is that they don't BULLSHIT each other. that's why the Big Lie was such a big deal! that's why kira feels so safe unloading on odo! that's part of why odo admires her! the idea that kira has gone to bajor to hook up with shakaar either because she was genuinely tired of waiting for odo to make a move (WHEN THEY HAD AN ENTIRE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY HE WAS NOT YET AKING A MOVE AND SHE WAS RELIEVED WITH HIS DECISION) or because she was trying to HINT that it was time for him to make a move is ridiculous. kira nerys does not HINT at people. if she wanted something from odo, she knows good and damn well all she has to do is ask. in fact, unwilling though it was, he has already laid his feelings on the table - the ball is technically in HER court. (even in the 90s, this idea that the guy always has to do the pursuing is old and tired and sexist.)
but i am getting off topic. how does this come back around to ableism? it's the idea that, in the defiance of this canon, odo does not have to simply bring up to kira how he feels, or what he wants to do, but that he has to "loosen up." the idea that he's too weird, too socially inept, and that his natural personality and preferences and way of doing things and his past experiences are obstacles to be erased and overcome rather than THE UNIQUE REASONS KIRA LIKES HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE is insulting at best and yeah at its worst ableist. what did he even do at the dinner with kira that was so different from what he normally does? he stammered a lot and paid her a couple of compliments. he reminded her that he likes her. it was technically a date - one he didn't even ask her out on. are we saying odo, in-character, could not have done a better job than that without tired, outdated, "get the girl" lessons from (sorry, doc) a fucking hologram? even BARCLAY got better treatment than this. in tng! tng, which isn't even good! barclay, who is not even a good character! the things that ACTUALLY made him weird and undatable were things people venerated as "representation" while odo's less palatable personality traits need to be trained away during a self-playing piano musical number in order to make him fit to date kira. like it's un FUCKING believable.
finally, and this is a petty little nickpick, but i think i'm entitled at this point: the kiss being in public. kira and odo are both STUPIDLY private people. they are both REALLY uncertain about how their relationship will change by adding romance. they don't like people poking their noses into their business. kira only told ONE person about odo's feelings for her and only one person knew about odo's feelings for kira (if you don't count mommy changeling, which i don't). at one point it was one of odo's most closely guarded secrets, to the point of him hiding it from garak UNDER TORTURE and giving him the other big truth instead (that he wanted to go home) because of how vulnerable it makes him. and you want me to believe these two people just lost their heads in front of everyone on the promenade? you could have sold it to me if the rest of the episode was good and i might have loved it, but this episode was GARBAGE.
i have no idea what will happen with odo and kira from here out...i really hope it will be good, because i absolutely love the ship, but more and more i worry that they're just reducing them to "nice guy who finally got the girl" and "girl" and if that is the case i want no part of it. i find it MINDBLOWING that ds9 - ds9! - could screw up this monumentally, but it has, and now i just have to. deal with that, aaaaaugh.
anyway. TONIGHT: voy's "unforgettable" and ds9's "the reckoning." sheesh.
#personal#star trek blogging#voy lb#ds9 lb#i wrote this instead of working on my fanfic smh#if not for that fic i'd already be halfway thru some kind of fixit because that was ridiculous. unforgivable.#i feel so bad for the 90s girlies who liked this ship and waited 4 real life years for this. i cannot imagine the suffering#i read on memory alpha the guy who wrote this episode actually called fans who didn't like it names#he was like they just haven't had their tiny minds opened to the idea of a cheerful episodes but those are actually harder to write#if they're that hard to write my guy then don't write them. or let someone else do it#and definitely don't pull out the insults bc people didn't like your work. talk about tiny minds.
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didnt know what to post so just have this
I fucking need ideas before art blocks catches up to my ass 💔💔
yeah humanization yeahhh
#yeahhh#trio#how does a american green bunny a Australian daschuand and a Scottish sea otter become my favorites#i would die for them#poly relationship type shi#digtial art#I NEED IDEAS SNIFF SNIIF MIMIMJI#SNIFF SNIIF HUH HUH SNIFF SNIIFF#octonauts#octonauts tweak#octonauts shellington#octonauts dashi#dashi x shellington x tweak Octonauts#whats the ship name for those three oml
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