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Did I mention this show had a love triangle between Christy and the preacher and the atheist doctor?
Spoiler alert: the show got cancelled before it could be resolved and the last episode was actually a cliffhanger ending on Christy trying to decide between them.
According to my mom, in the novel she ends up with the doctor. But I could swear she read the book to us and the last thing I remember was Christy got really sick and then woke up from her fever and the doctor saying her name was the last line. But according to Google they did explicitly end up married, so maybe there was an epilogue my mom forgot to read.
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LI Book Headcanons
I've had this thought in my mind all day and NEED to get it out there.
(content warning: mentions of JK Rowling. Not to worry, it's bad mouthing her.)
Eden: his favourite damn series is Lord of the Rings. My man started with The Hobbit, then dived into Lotr. He's read EVERY. SINGLE. Elf song that the book has to offer. He's a fantasy nerd. However I would also see him read Pride and Prejudice. Perhaps some Terry Pratchett, too.
Avery: she grew up reading her parent's notes and bank account details. HOWEVER she's also read 50 Shades of Gray, and gave her the idea in mind that if she has enough money, she can acquire any lover she wants. REFUSES to acknowledge that it's Twilight fanfiction.
Kylar: speaking of Twilight, he is a FANATIC. adores the idea of being the misterious vampire, that attracts Bella in his unusual charm. He's read every book. And I mean every book, he's read the genderbent version, the Edward POV, anything written by Meyer he's read. He was neither team Jacob or Edward, he was team Kylar. Drew his self insert vampire oc with Bella NUMEROUS times.
Robin: he used to be a Potterhead. He was SO into it. Identified as a Hufflepuff, did the patronus and wand quizzes, his favourite book is the first one. He was in SHACKLES when JK Rowling came out as a gross terf. The level of betrayal he felt is indescribable. He woved to never touch the books again.
Sydney: do you know those books Christian oarents give to kids to let them know about Jesus early? Yeah, Sidney's read them. However, when she got freedom to grab her own books, she discovered that she DIGS Greek Mythology. She has a whole collection of Rick Riordan's books on the shelf, has attempted to draw her favourite characters. The movies don't exist to her and whenever anyone brings them up, she death stares them.
Alex: you know the Grimm fairy tales? Those are his favourites. Just the dark forest themes, the magic, the horror aspect of it... It just works for him. He's lived his whole life in the countryside, so he can fantasize about getting lost in the woods and finding a gingerbread house.
Whitney. I saved the best for last. So in hus childhood, in my headcanon he could never really afford to buy books, let alone his parents giving them to him. He read a bit of Dr Seuss but that was it. NOW that he can actually afford some stuff, he discovered the duality of man. Comics.
On one hand, he absolutely LOVES thise cute, kid friendly comics. Peanuts, Garfield, the Disney Mickey Mouse comics. On the other, he absolutely digs the over-the-top action manga shit. I'm talking Chainsaw Man, DevilMan by Go Nagai, Hells Angels by Shinichi Hiromoto. He doesn't have enough attention span to read a whole book, but he absolutely LOVES comics.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk!
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Who I Write For
Hey everyone this is a list of who I write for.
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Another special guest episode!
Transcript below the break.
Rosemary
(singing) Pulitzer and Hearst, they think they got us.
You going to put my singing on there as a teaser?
Jane
Yes. Yes I am.
Hello and welcome back to The Rewatch Rewind, the podcast where I count down my top 40 most frequently rewatched movies. Usually these are movies that I love for my own personal reasons, but for this episode, I will be joined by my sister Rosemary to talk about one of her comfort movies, which is #32 on my list: Disney’s 1992 historical musical Newsies, directed by Kenny Ortega, written by Bob Tzudiker and Noni White – who I just learned are married to each other, so that’s fun – and starring Christian Bale, David Moscow, Bill Pullman, and Robert Duvall.
It’s 1899. The streets of New York City echo with the voices of newsies, carrying the banner on every corner, bringing you the news for a penny a pape. Our story starts the day David Jacobs (David Moscow) and his younger brother Les (Luke Edwards) begin their newsboy careers and team up with experienced newsie Jack Kelly (Christian Bale). But soon after, the head of the newspaper, Joseph Pulitzer (Robert Duvall) decides that in order to increase profits, he needs to further exploit the newsies, so David and Jack decide to lead a strike.
This movie is truly bizarre, and I don’t think I’ve ever quite figured out how I feel about it. I’ve somehow managed to watch it 16 times, and most of those viewings were either directly or indirectly because of my sister, so without further ado, let’s talk with Rosemary about Newsies.
Hello!
Rosemary
Hi!
Jane
Very excited to talk to you about Newsies, because the only reason that it made it onto this podcast is because of you.
Rosemary
Yeah, that is my fault, I think.
Jane
I don't think I would have watched it again after the first couple of times we watched it if you hadn't gotten into it.
Rosemary
And I don't really know why I loved it so much.
Jane
Yeah, I don't really either, but I think we should tell the listeners how we were introduced to this movie because we were introduced to this movie in the weirdest way possible.
Rosemary
The weirdest way.
Jane
So why are we even there? Why did we go to this Kid Court thing?
Rosemary
So we did this summer camp. It was like a day camp where it was kind of like mock trial. And it was for like 10 to 14 year olds or something.
Jane
It was the summer of 2003, because then you did it again the next year but I was too old.
Rosemary
OK. Well, roughly for like 10 to 13 year olds, putting on a trial to figure out how to be lawyers or something. I think like the premise of the camp, like it was somebody's dad, that was a lawyer and he like, it was through the parks and Rec department. And it was just like a summer camp day camp class and it was a week long class to teach young ones about what it's like to be a lawyer and kind of like, get people interested in criminal justice. And they based it on a movie. And so the premise of the camp was they showed a movie and then had some sort of trial, like a premise of a trial. And we were supposed to play like the lawyers and the people themselves and put this trial on for the parents who would come and be the jury at the end of the week.
Jane
Yes, and why they decided to do a trial based on Newsies, I don't know.
Rosemary
No idea. It is the most random thing they could have picked in 2003. Like this movie that came out in 1992, like 11 years later, we're like, let's do a mock trial on if Jack Kelly or Pulitzer should... I don't even remember the premise of the trial.
Jane
I think it was trying to decide if Pulitzer should go to jail for cruelty toward the Newsies or something. Because I played Pulitzer.
Rosemary
I played Jack Kelly.
Jane
I'd forgotten about that.
Rosemary
Because I had to call you Joe all the time, because that was really cool. Because that's what Jack Kelly did.
Jane
Oh man, I forgot about that. I just remembered that I had a beard made out of construction paper. Because I remember we were trying to argue about whether Weasel had any culpability. Or if he was just taking orders from Pulitzer. But the thing the thing was like we had never heard of this movie before.
Rosemary
We had never heard of this movie and we also were not that interested in becoming lawyers.
Jane
No, so that's, why were we there? Was it because, because, OK, so as we're recording this, my Chicago episode has not come out yet, but it will have before I release it, and the friend that I will talk about in that episode came to this camp with us.
Rosemary
Correct.
Jane
So was it because she wanted to do it? Is that why we were there?
Rosemary
Truly I don't remember.
Jane
For some reason we're at this like mock trial day camp for preteens, and for some reason that makes even less sense, we're doing a trial based on this movie that we never heard of before, and I remember, so it was 2003 cause that was the first year that I was keeping track of my movies and we watched the whole movie. But then we like were watching bits and pieces of it again, but I didn't know how many times to count it, and I remember that being like a real dilemma. And that's kind of a running theme with this movie is a lot of times I'll just watch certain parts of it. So I don't really know how many times I've watched the whole thing. I would count it if I watched most of it. So the the counting might be a little off on this.
Rosemary
Oh dear.
Jane
Anyway, we watched it and we did a trial and the trial made no sense because none of us understood the movie.
Rosemary
Or how to do a trial.
Jane
Yeah.
Rosemary
So anyway, I remember the first day of camp. We're in this like classroom in the Community Center, and they dim the lights, they bring in this TV on wheels, and we watch Newsies. And it was like nothing I'd ever seen before. Like it was singing, dancing teenage boys from 1899, going on strike, singing about it. And I don't know, it was like a mesmerizing experience. And maybe also because, like, we watched it in a group setting and nobody was really that familiar with the movie, I don't think, and we just watched it and we were supposed to like really get into it so we could do this trial. So I remember like watching it with my senses on alert being like, OK, what's the trial going to be and how are we going to defend them?
Jane
I just remember like not following the plot of the movie at all.
Rosemary
Oh.
Jane
Like I liked the singing and dancing, but I did not know what was going on.
Rosemary
Huh.
Jane
So I had a a hard time with this trial because I was like, I don't even understand what happened in this movie. I don't super remember watching it for the first time that vividly, so I think I might have like, just zoned out. I just remember, like when we were doing the trial, I was like, I don't even understand what's supposed to have happened in this movie, so I don't know what we're doing.
Rosemary
(laughing) That's fair.
Jane
I mean, I got that they went on strike. I just didn't really understand, like... there were too many little like intricacies of like what exactly they were protesting and stuff like that. I mean, now I know what it's about, but at the time I just thought, This is weird. I don't understand this movie.
Rosemary
I also remember because we would go back and watch different clips from it because that was our like evidence, it would sit on the DVD menu for long stretches of time, and this one girl in the class she like made this whole dance routine for the, like, menu music that we listen to over and over again.
Jane
Oh yes.
Rosemary
So I think about that. Every time I watch it on DVD.
Jane
I I do remember that. But I don't remember a ton about the mock trial. I just remember that it was weird.
Rosemary
It was weird. Somebody made a poster of brass knuckles.
Jane
Oh, yeah. (laughs)
Rosemary
Um, and... I was supposed to be Jack Kelly, and that's pretty much all I remember.
Jane
Yeah.
Rosemary
One of the witnesses was this random person that was where the milk jugs got knocked over.
Jane
We never actually see that person in the movie.
Rosemary
He's not in the movie. They don't exist.
Jane
Somebody decided to be the person whose milk jugs got knocked over. I realized to the listeners that this is going to sound weird, but it's like weirder than you think it was based on what we're saying.
Rosemary
Yeah, none of this makes sense.
Jane
It almost feels like it didn't happen, like I made it up, but I know that it happened because that's how we got introduced to this movie. But then I don't remember why we watched it again after that.
Rosemary
So how many times did you watch it in 2003?
Jane
I counted watching it twice. Then I watched it again in 2004.
Rosemary
OK. So I know that we rented it from Hollywood Video.
Jane
Oh, OK.
Rosemary
Because they had like, one copy of it. Because why would you need more? And I just remember being like, I need to see this movie again, and one day we were at Hollywood Video and got it. So that must have been the 2004 watch? Because I imagine you counted it twice for mock trial.
Jane
Yeah, I think so.
Rosemary
So we would get it from Hollywood Video and then I think the library had a copy of it that wasn't very good. And then eventually I got it on DVD, which I think was probably in 2005. When we got our DVD player like that was the year of the DVD's right?
Jane
I think so.
Rosemary
I think I got it then.
Jane
But I also feel like I remember being like at work and talking to someone about it and saying that we didn't have it on DVD. And then they got it for me at the same time that we got another copy because we ended up with two copies of it on DVD.
Rosemary
Oh well, maybe I didn't get it in 2005. I definitely had my own copy when I went away to college.
Jane
Yes.
Rosemary
Because I took it with me.
Jane
Yes. Because I think that that someone gave you a copy and one of my coworkers gave me a copy. That would have probably been like 2009.
Rosemary
Yeah, that makes sense. OK, I don't know.
Jane
It was a long time ago. But like your friends were also really into it.
Rosemary
Yeah, I was kind of like, my circle of friends kind of overlapped the theater kids ,and it was big in the theater kid circle. And this was like my like middle school friends. And so we would frequently watch it, like at sleepovers or hangouts or whatever, we would just turn on Newsies and have, like, a whole sing along.
Jane
Yeah, because I remember like being really annoyed by it for a while. And that was like your thing that you did with your friends. And I was like, this movie is so bad though.
Rosemary
Oh, I didn't know that you had that period of time.
Jane
Yeah, and then I don't know, I I kind of came around to it eventually and like, I mean, there's parts of it that are definitely bad.
Rosemary
No, like full disclosure: this is not a good movie.
Jane
No, but it is enjoyable.
Rosemary
(laughs) When it comes down to it, it's not good. Like the acting isn't very good, the singing is fine, the editing needed... it needed to be shorter. It's a very long movie.
Jane
Well, it's almost like it's like two different movies because there's, like, the musical, and then there's the drama.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
The whole, like, Pulitzer part doesn't fit with the rest of the musical because, like, he kind of seems like he's in a completely different world, which maybe was intentional. I don't know. But I feel like it's kind of like they were combining two different types of movie into one, not very well.
Rosemary
Yes.
Jane
But also what's funny about it is that, like it was a total flop when it came out. I think it was like the lowest grossing Disney live action film to date. Or one of them.
Rosemary
Which doesn't like.... it's not a great movie, but that just doesn't feel right. Like, it's fine.
Jane
But the thing is that like then it became really popular later and it's like kind of a cult classic. And so they... the initial box office loss was made up by video rentals, once it came out for home viewing. And now there's like this whole group of people that absolutely love it. I mean, and then it was turned into a Broadway musical, like way later, because it was super popular.
Rosemary
Yeah, in like 2014 or something?
Jane
Yeah like in the 2010s. And so it's just really funny how it was like when we first watched it, nobody knows what this movie is, and then like a few years later, everyone was like, Oh yeah, I love Newsies! And I was like, what? You know about Newsies? I thought that was just our thing. And now it's like, oh, OK, everybody knows Newsies, but most people I think are maybe now more people are familiar with the stage version.
Rosemary
Yeah, especially since they've filmed it and it's on Disney plus, and you can watch it anytime you want, so...
Jane
Yeah.
Rosemary
I think they're different. I think the choreography is really fun and exciting in the Broadway stage show because they have Broadway dancers to do the choreography and not Christian Bale, who I don't think is known for his dancing.
Jane
No, oh, it's just so funny that Christian Bale is in this movie. Like, can we talk about how random that is? Like, he's not a musical guy.
Rosemary
But he's a good singer.
Jane
Yeah, no, I think he does a good job. It's just very not on brand for him.
Rosemary
Nope, but he was also like, a child.
Jane
It's true. And then, like Pulitzer is played by Robert Duvall, and he doesn't get to sing, even though Robert Duvall could sing and sang in other movies. So I do like that the stage musical gave Pulitzer a song. I think it makes him feel more part of the story.
Rosemary
Well, yeah, that needed to happen. And then Ann-Margret is randomly there?
Jane
Her character did not need to be there. I don't understand why her character was there.
Rosemary
Why was anyone there?
Jane
But like, the music isn't great, considering that it's Alan Menken. Like, he wrote much better songs.
Rosemary
But it's fine.
Jane
Most of the songs are pretty good, but Ann-Margret's songs are bad. Like, they are bad songs and I don't know why they're like that because because they change that character a little bit for the stage musical, and gave her different songs that are actually good. And I'm like, why couldn't the movie have good songs for this character?
Rosemary
Um... yeah.
Jane
But I actually do love Carrying the Banner. I think that is a great opening number.
Rosemary
It is!
Jane
The rest of the movie doesn't necessarily live up to that start, but I love that. But there's other good songs.
Rosemary
I mean Carrying the Banner is great. King of New York is fantastic. Seize the Day is fine. The World Will Know is a good song. And it's a play on The World.
Jane
Oh yeah, they do enjoy that pun.
Rosemary
They like that a lot.
Jane
The newspaper is called The World, and so they, like at one point, one of Pulitzer's assistants is like, “It’s like the end of the world. Oh, no. I didn't mean that!” There's a lot of that in that movie.
Rosemary
So it's really just... I mean, even Santa Fe is not a bad song.
Jane
That's true. It's that the songs don't save the rest of the movie and the dancing could have been better. I think that's the thing.
Rosemary
But see, we need to talk about how Kenny Ortega, the director/choreographer, was kind of ahead of his time with this movie. Because, had it come out ten years later or 15 years later, like when High School Musical came out, Kenny Ortega's Magnum Opus, it would have been way more popular. Like, the world was not ready for a musical of teenage boys in 1992, but they were ready for a musical of teenagers in 2004.
Jane
Also like, I wonder if this had been a Disney Channel original movie instead of a theatrically released movie, would it have been more popular?
Rosemary
Well, and they probably would have edited it better if it was a direct for TV movie because it's so long and if it was a Disney Channel original movie, it would have been shorter and a little faster pace. And possibly better. Like maybe they were, they were trying to make this Mary Poppins-esque feature and maybe didn't realize that that was not what they should have been shooting for.
Jane
Well, and it it is long, but it feels longer than it is.
Rosemary
Yes.
Jane
Which is not what you want.
Rosemary
No. (laughs) Like there's so many things that don't need to be in the movie, and I say this as a person that loves this movie, but it's like, pick up the pace, man.
Jane
Yeah, it definitely drags. And I think a lot of musicals have this problem where there just aren't enough songs in the second act. But if it was going to be as long as it is, they needed more songs, like good songs, not just High Times Hard Times, in the second act.
Rosemary
Yeah, that doesn't help because it's like the second act needs more songs, and then the songs that are in the second act are not good.
Jane
Yeah, it really loses steam.
Rosemary
It does. We haven't talked about how Bill Pullman is randomly in this movie.
Jane
Bill Pullman is great and also that they completely changed his character for the musical and turned him into a woman who has a romance with Jack.
Rosemary
Yeah... I mean that's much more like Hollywood, Disney romance. And so it's kind of weird that they didn't do that in the movie version.
Jane
Well, so also like the character of Sarah.
Rosemary
Oh, geez.
Jane
There's like two women in the whole movie that are actually important. There's Medda, who has the horrible songs, and then there's Sarah, who is David's sister, who kind of has a romance with Jack. But it's very forced. It's just like kind of stuck in there. I- there's no reason for it to be there.
Rosemary
No. They were just like, I guess this movie should have some romance in it.
Jane
Yeah. And it's like her, her character is completely underdeveloped and all that. But also like, I don't remember when we read this, but at some point I was looking up facts about Newsies and people were talking about how it kind of seems like Bill Pullman's character, Denton, and David have, like, romantic chemistry? And now I can't unsee it.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
It's a little creepy because I don't know how old David's supposed to be. I think he's supposed to be a teenager, and Denton is a grown man, but there's just like so many moments between them, that's like, oh, this is interesting.
Rosemary
Yeah, they're very flirtatious with each other and are having a good time, and it's... it's just a little odd that they staged it the way they did.
Jane
Yeah, and I don't know how intentional that was or what they were trying to do with that. I didn't notice it before I read it, but it's it's there.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
But I mean, I know it's based on a true story, but I'm not sure like how much they were trying to stick to the true story and how much they were just going off of the basic premise of like, oh, these newsboys went on strike this one time. Because I don't know if, like, they're based on actual people or if they just decided like, OK, we're just going to make up some Newsies, because that might make a difference. Like, maybe there really was a reporter like that who hung out with them and, I don't know. But yeah, Bill Pullman does his best.
Rosemary
He always does his best and we are grateful for that.
Jane
He's a good singer!
Rosemary
He is! Yeah. I have definitely watched the special features on this movie a few times and there is one that's like all about the historical, like the true story of the Newsies. Um... I don't know why I'm saying this, because I don't actually remember so. But there's a special feature on the DVD if you have it, so you can go check it out and learn your history of the Newsies. There is audio commentary from Kenny Ortega throughout the whole movie as well. That's a treat.
Jane
I don't think I've ever watched it.
Rosemary
I definitely have.
Jane
Yeah, I believe you.
Rosemary
You learn little fun facts, but you don't actually have to watch it with commentary with Kenny Ortega. If you're watching it with me, because I will tell you when things come up.
Jane
It's true.
Rosemary
I'm like, did you know this fun fact that I just happened to know? Like I'm doing my own commentary on it. But I was thinking about, like, why did I like this movie so much? Like, why did it have such a hold on me from like 2003 to 2012? Like, why was this my go to comfort film? Why could I spend the whole day like watching it and the special features and going on IMDb to look up the actors? And I don't know. It doesn't make sense knowing like, who I am as a person and the things I normally like and things like that like it's it's kind of odd. But I think I enjoyed the like sense of friends who are family and that camaraderie and these boys have nobody but each other and they care about each other a lot. They know each other's quirks and idiosyncrasies and accept them all into their little family. Like they live in that boarding house together. And I'm sure it's, like, very idealized. And like they were very poor and hungry and cold and probably stinky, and it probably shouldn't be, like, romanticized, I guess. But I think I was really drawn to that like, sense of community that they had. And they're fighting for something. And I think that the little like social justice warrior in me was like, yeah, we just all have to be friends together, and then we can like, change the world.
Jane
Yeah, that makes sense. I I definitely agree that I I enjoyed the ensemble aspect of it, but I like always wanted more from the side characters. Like I want like a whole TV show of just like them hanging out.
Rosemary
Oh yeah! I definitely made-up back stories in my head of a lot of those background guys because they're really good background actors and they did a good job getting like this whole crew together. And I'm like this part is what's truly fascinating is these people that are all part of this story that aren't the Jack Kelly or the David, but they don't want to pay $0.10 more for 100 papes.
Jane
Yeah, and just that they have such pride in what they're doing.
Rosemary
Yeah!
Jane
The whole “Headlines don't sell papes, Newsies sell papes” thing is cheesy, but it's nice, like they're like, yes, we're doing something important. We're bringing news to people and... the movie kind of like glosses over this to the point that I didn't even notice it at first: the whole like branching out the strike to other child laborers?
Rosemary
Yeah.
Jane
That kind of confused me because it's like there's so much that drags and then that, they kind of rush through that in one musical number. But they were really trying to help stop child workers from being exploited, so they have pride in what they're doing, but they also recognize, like we are children and we are being worked way harder than we should be, and this is the last straw. And I think that's really cool. I don't know if that's actually accurate to what actually happened with this strike.
Rosemary
I don't think it was like one strike changed everything but, part of the whole like, labor rights movement at the turn of the century and like safe working conditions and limits on working hours and working ages and stuff like that. And I don't think they did a bad job of telling that story.
Jane
No, it's just they could have done a better job.
Rosemary
For sure.
Jane
But I also think that part is like one of the most moving parts of the movie now that I like catch that it's there. The World Will Know Reprise, I guess is what it is. Where they're like, waiting for people to show up. And they're like, oh, it's just gonna be us. Nobody else is listening to us. And then like that whole group of people come in to, like, stand in solidarity with them. I love that part.
Rosemary
When you've got a million voices singing,
Jane
Who can hear a lousy whistle blow?
Rosemary
And the world will feel the fire and finally know.
Jane
It's like to a certain extent, the reason that I watched this movie is because it's, like, so bad it's good in some ways.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
But also like there are parts of it that are actually pretty good.
Rosemary
Yeah!
Jane
There's a lot of like they almost got there, but it just I think they didn't quite know exactly what they were trying to do, like what story they were trying to tell, and it gets a little unfocused.
Rosemary
But also like, as you said, like the Newsboys take pride in being the ones that deliver the news? Those young actors at the time, took like huge pride in being in that movie and in the special featurettes of like, what was it like on set? Like these teenage boys were like having a great time and were really proud of their, you know, their singing and dancing and bringing this story to life. And maybe Christian Bale doesn't like to talk about it anymore, but you know who among us likes to talk about what we did when we were 16?
Jane
Well, and like Christian Bale is by far the like most famous one of those kids like now.
Rosemary
Oh for sure.
Jane
A lot of those people are still working and some of them are like have done other things that I know about. But like in terms of name recognition, if you named the other actors that played the kids, like Christian Bale is on a completely different level of fame than the rest of them.
Rosemary
Yes.
Jane
And I think even at the time he was, like, embarrassed to tell people that he was making a musical. And I think like everybody else was just like, yeah, of course, we're making musical. This is fun. And I think he was kind of like, this is beneath me. But I mean he still did a good job.
Rosemary
Yeah.
Jane
But it's not a typical Christian Bale movie.
Rosemary
It definitely is not.
Jane
But it’s the only Christian Bale movie that made it in my Top 40, so what does that say?
Rosemary
Something. But I think you know like why did I, why was it my like comfort movie? But it it really was for a time and truly, it's baffling, I don't know.
Jane
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't always have to make sense. A lot of times you just, a movie makes you feel good, so you watch it. Like it doesn't have to be for a particularly deeper reason. I think that that's totally fair. And I think, that that part of why I keep returning to it, is it like makes me think of you, so it's comforting for that and there's a little bit of nostalgia from back when you were watching it constantly when we lived in the same house. So yeah, I don't know. And I don't think we have to know why we watch it a lot, but it is strange. And just like, thinking about trying to tie it into the theme of the podcast of like watching it from an aroace perspective, the worst part of the movie is the romance, and most people agree about that. So it's like, OK, I'm watching it for the, for the friends and most other people are. So I think that has something to do with it, that like, it's more about friendship and camaraderie than romance. But then it's just kind of like, oh, but we need to have romance in here cause there's a female character, which I hate so much.
Rosemary
Yeah, I mean, I would have loved like, we could have done a side story of like those girls that were working in the sewing factory or whatever?
Jane
Oh yeah.
Rosemary
That come to the strike or whatever? We could have had a whole side story about them and their friendship and their camaraderie and all of that to talk about their experiences. And kind of just make it a movie about friendship, which it mostly is.
Jane
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Rosemary
And fighting the man.
Jane
Yeah. Well, and then there's the whole thing about the children's refuge.
Rosemary
Yeah.
Jane
And locking kids up and all that.
Rosemary
The commentary on the pipeline to prison system.
Jane
Yeah. They don't get into racism at all like...
Rosemary
Yeah...
Jane
They have some characters of color, but it's more colorblind casting is what it feels like. But it is definitely a commentary on, like poor people just getting locked up, and there's a little bit about like disabled people because there's the character of Crutchy, who at one point they're doing strike activities and they're kind of, I don't even know. They're, like ripping up newspapers and stuff like that. And everybody gets away except for the kid who can't walk very well. I don't know what his condition is supposed to be, but it's interesting to see how different characters treat him and that, like the other Newsies, are like, yeah, he's our friend. And then the people in power are just kind of like, let's throw him away and beat him up and stuff like that. I don't know if they were trying to say anything in doing that. But I think it's interesting to see his character and how he's treated.
Rosemary
Yeah, that they at least included him, when they didn't have to, like, have that representation at all.
Jane
Yeah, I mean it, it would have been better if he was played by an actor who was actually disabled.
Rosemary
Well, yes.
Jane
That's too much to ask for now, let alone 30 years ago. So...
Rosemary
Yeah... yeah. I mean it's like it is rich versus poor. It is, you know, the powerful against the not powerful, and you know the way that adults treat children, and don't take them seriously and kind of want them to disappear unless they're doing something that makes them money.
Jane
Yeah. And I think that that actually is why Ann-Margret's character is there because she is like, she and Bill Pullman's character are, like, the only adults that really support them and take them seriously. And so I think it is kind of important to show that like, I mean, the kids are doing most of it on their own, but they do have some support and it comes in unexpected ways. You know, romanticizing David and Denton kind of cheapens that a little bit. It is it... they just have weird moments together.
Rosemary
They really do.
Jane
I think ultimately it's not intentional like he's just supposed to be helping them because he wants to support their cause. And he gets silenced temporarily, and it's interesting how they show that like he feels like he has to follow the rules because he'll lose his job and stuff, and these kids have very little to lose because they don't have much. And so it's interesting the way they showed that that like he's kind of ready to give up, but then the kids talk him into staying and fighting.
Rosemary
Doing what's right.
Jane
Yeah, they're they're ready to go on without him. But I like that he comes back and joins up with them and helps them rally all of the other child laborers. So yeah, it's it's an uplifting story. Like it does make you feel powerful in a way. I just, they miss what they're trying to do a few too many times that it, like, doesn't quite work. But there's moments that work. It's just it's a weird tone of a movie, like it doesn't know how serious to be, and I think that part of that is good. Like, I think it's nice to have a balance of like, the lighthearted musical numbers and the actual, like, really tough messages. But I just, I don't feel like it strikes the right balance somehow. And I'm not sure how, like I don't know how it could be better. I don't know exactly how to solve the problem of Newsies, cause I think the the musical like, I like the movie better just because... the thing I don't like about the musical is that they changed the words to the songs that they kept. Like add new songs? Great, but why did you change the words just for the sake of changing the words? That's my biggest gripe with the musical.
Rosemary
And can we talk about the line, “both the Delanceys pee in their pantsies” because like, what is that? I'm personally offended by that. Like what? Who wrote that?
Jane
Like there's no reason to change the words to that song because it was already a pretty good song. But then that they changed it to that of like, what? Oh, also another thing that I was going to mention is that so Alan Menken wrote the music and Howard Ashman was going to write the lyrics, but then he died. And I don't even remember who wrote the lyrics. Sorry person who wrote the lyrics.
Rosemary
Jack Feldman.
Jane
OK, I don't know, did he write the lyrics for the stage show? The reason that I bring up the Howard Ashman thing is, I feel like if Howard Ashman had written Newsies lyrics before he died, people would have felt less OK messing with them because like, he's such a legend. But I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm wrong about that.
Rosemary
I think he did both. Jack Feldman.
Jane
Yeah so it's almost like they recognize, like, OK, the movie didn't quite work, so we're going to try and make the musical work better, which I think that ultimately, overall, it does work better in telling the story. But, they incorrectly identified certain things that didn't work and changed things that didn't need to be changed, and that irritates me.
Rosemary
I feel that.
Jane
It makes it so I don't want to listen to the cast recording because they changed the words to songs that didn't need the words changed. But the new songs they added I think were really good. And the the songs they took out were not missed, so there is that. But they didn't need to change King of New York.
Rosemary
Sorry, I'm now reading an article about Newsies. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
Jane
What?
Rosemary
The tea!
Jane
Oh dear.
Rosemary
Apparently there were behind the scenes drama because Christian Bale and the girl that played Sarah, Ele Keats, they started dating during pre production, but then they broke up right before filming.
Jane
Oh dear!
Rosemary
And so they weren't even, like talking to each other before they had to film these scenes of them being like, “I'm in love with you!” So maybe that's why it doesn't work.
Jane
That's definitely part of it. I was also reading that Sarah was supposed to have a song, but then they cut it.
Rosemary
Mmm.
Jane
Because her character does like very little in the movie. Like...
Rosemary
Yeah, she does nothing.
Jane
We don't need her to be there.
Rosemary
Apparently Howard Ashman died the day before the first songwriting session for Newsies.
Jane
Awwww, so sad. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, again, I like a lot of the songs in the movie and I think that they have better lyrics than the Broadway versions of them. But I wonder how different things would have been if Howard Ashman could have written the lyrics for these songs, but. On the one hand, like I keep saying, like the movie doesn't work, they should change stuff, but also I do kind of love it the way it is. I love that it's broken and and a little bit of a mess. That's part of its charm. And it's sad if you think about some of the issues too hard, but it doesn't let itself get too sad, so it feels uplifting. And I mean it has an encouraging ending. They won, but it's unclear exactly what that means going forward other than that the price they have to pay for the papers is what it was. But also OK. That was the part that really confused me when we watched it the first time. I didn't understand like why raising the price was hurting them because I didn't realize that it was the price-
Rosemary
Of the distribution apparatus?
Jane
Like the Newsies had to buy the papers and then sell them? I like kind of missed that whole thing. So I was like, what exactly are they fighting for? Also, it makes it so much more complicated because it was two for a penny, and then they were raising it 10 cents a hundred. It's like so much harder to get the right change for the number of papers when it's like that. So for that reason alone, they shouldn't have raised it.
Rosemary
It just wasn't a good idea and one that was just sort of thrown out there during a brainstorming session. And, um, they just ran with it.
Jane
It's a really good indication of how big companies operate because the other idea that was thrown out in that brainstorming session was that they cut the salaries of the people at the top and they're like, “We can't do that!”
Rosemary
Mmm-hmm.
Jane
That's still a thing of like we gotta exploit the lowest workers who already are struggling to eat, while the people in charge are making more money than they could spend in several lifetimes.
Rosemary
And it's a Disney movie, is it?
Jane
Yes, it's it's it's a good point. The message does kind of get lost because it is a Disney movie and it's like Disney is in control of the entire entertainment world now it feels like.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
But they're still like, “Oh yeah, no, we champion the underdog. We definitely pay all of our workers fairly.”
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
So... yeah, I don't know. It's hard to explain what we love about the movie because it is objectively bad.
Rosemary
It's objectively not good, but I wouldn't say it's objectively bad.
Jane
Yeah, that's a better way to put it, because there's definitely some great moments in it.
Rosemary
It's definitely watchable, especially if you fast forward some parts.
Jane
Yeah, well, that's why it's hard because a lot of times I would just like go through and watch the good songs and skip everything else.
Rosemary
So when was the last time you watched Newsies?
Jane
I watched it last year.
Rosemary
Oh. Why? (laughs)
Jane
I don't remember why. I watched a lot of movies last year. Last year was the year I watched the most movies since I started keeping track. I might have, like, convinced Mom to watch it on Robert Duvall's birthday. I know I did that once recently.
Rosemary
That checks out. There it is. Not Ann-Margret's birthday?
Jane
No.
Rosemary
Not David Moscow's birthday? Not Pulitzer's birthday?
Jane
Apparently the movie came out on Pulitzer's birthday.
Rosemary
Oh! Interesting.
Jane
It's just funny because it's like, Robert Duvall is this big star who's been in a ton of things, and like, this is the movie of his that I've seen the most?
Rosemary
Well, and apparently according to the special features, he like got super into the role and read like a 500 page biography of Pulitzer, and like, was really into the character and everything, was fascinated by the character. And I'm like, well, maybe for Pulitzer's biopic, but that's not what this is.
Jane
Yeah he's not in enough of the movie to justify it. I will say one of my favorite parts is when he makes all those like adding machine noises.
Rosemary
Yeah.
Jane
That's pretty great. I I do enjoy that.
Rosemary
Yeah, so he tried to stay true to Pulitzer.
Jane
You gotta respect that.
Rosemary
And maybe we do need a Pulitzer biopic one of these days.
Jane
Yeah, I think he's a little bit old now. Is he still acting?
Rosemary
Is he still alive?
Jane
I think so, but he's very old. Yeah, he's 92. Also, we haven't talked about Les, but I love Les. That kid!
Rosemary
He is so genuine.
Jane
He is dedicated. Both the actor is dedicated to being in the movie, the kid is dedicated to the cause.
Rosemary
He’s dedicated to being dedicated.
Jane
He really is. And I love the part in The World Will Know Reprise before all the people show up when they're singing and they're just like, yeah, whatever. And he's like, NO! He's like into it. Like, how dare you suggest that we would give in? He is dedicated to the cause from the get go and he is like, very devoted to Jack, and he's like “Jack knows what he's doing” and all this stuff. It's just, while I think that Sarah could have easily been eliminated, I love that Les is there. I think that he's he's a good addition to the group. And again I would love a TV show of just everybody hanging out.
Rosemary
We didn't talk about Spot Conlon either.
Jane
Oh my gosh. Scott Conlon is iconic and they OK, that's another thing I have a problem with the stage show about: they almost completely eliminated him from the stage show. He’s like barely there
Rosemary
But they did get a song for the Brooklyn crew.
Jane
Yes, but it’s very short. And that's like the only time we see him. Like I couldn't even tell which one was supposed to be Spot Conlon, cause it's just a bunch of people singing about Brooklyn. It's interesting that they kind of get into a little bit of the like politics within the Newsies in the different boroughs and stuff, but they don't explain it well.
Rosemary
No.
Jane
It's like a little bit lacking.
Rosemary
But it's also kind of like, you're just, like dropped into this.
Jane
That's true, and you're kind of following David in that sense, of like he gets dropped into this world and he doesn't understand it at all. And nobody really wants to, like, sit him down and explain it to him. It's just like, figure it out.
Rosemary
Yeah, because they don't really, even like sit down and explain it to themselves. Like it's just the way things are and like, he's this newcomer and they're just, like, catch up!
Jane
Yeah. It's like there's just, it's such a a weird thing of, like, some of it is like, yeah, this is really interesting. And then some of it's, like so boring.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
The pacing is weird.
Rosemary
Mm-hmm.
Jane
There's parts that are boring that don't have to be boring, like the story isn't boring, that they're focusing on. They're just focusing on it in a weird way.
Rosemary
They're just not telling it well.
Jane
Yeah! It's like there's so many things that almost work, but just don't, and I don't even really know how to explain it, which is why I keep floundering about it. But yeah, it's it's just a strange movie that is fun to watch.
Rosemary
There you go. Sums it up.
Jane
I definitely would have completely forgotten about it after that Kid Court if you hadn't gotten back into it.
Rosemary
It just... had a hold on me.
Jane
It did, and I think that that's great. There's lots of movies like that for me, but most of the movies that are in my Top 40 are because I enjoy watching them by myself. And this one I I'm sure I have watched it by myself, but usually I watched it because you wanted to watch it. So...
Rosemary
You're welcome.
Jane
Thank you for keeping this movie in my life.
Rosemary
For carrying the banner.
Jane
Carrying the banner.
Thank you, Rosemary, and thank you to anyone who is still listening. That was a fun chat, although I don’t feel like we were particularly coherent. Then again, I don’t know that there is a particularly coherent way to talk about this movie. Even though we were pretty critical of it, I truly believe that everyone should watch Newsies at least once, so if you’re still here and you haven’t seen it yet, definitely do that, and hopefully you’ll understand.
I’m going on vacation so there won’t be a new episode of The Rewatch Rewind next week, but I will be back the week after, so make sure you’re subscribed or following so you don’t miss that. When I return, I’ll be discussing the first of three movies I watched 17 times. As always, I’ll leave you with a quote from that next movie: “A pleasant little foursome. I predict a hatchet murder before the night’s over.”
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Theatricality (School Sets)
Tina is dressed in total goth look and Figgins look at her with rage in his eyes.
Tina: Am I in trouble?
Will: Come on. You’ve got more self-esteem than that. I think this might have something to do with your perfect attendance last semester.
Figgins: No. Miss Cohen-Chang is in trouble. It has come to my attention that the look you sport is what is known as goth.American teens are coming down with a serious case of Twilight fever, transformed from normal children into vampires obsessed with the occult. And only yesterday, this dark specter reared its head at McKinley High.
Flash Back - Lockers-Lauren and a clique of « Team Edward and Jacob »,Jacob Ben Israel
Some girls are in front of the lockers with Team Edward and Team Jacob T-shirts.
Lauren: This is totally going to get Robert Pattinson's attention.
Hissing
Jacob: Oh, hey. (Girls roaring and screaming jump on him) Oh, dear God!
End of Flash Back
Will: I don’t mean to state the obvious, but you do know that vampires aren’t real, right? They don’t exist.
Figgins: William, denial will not make this problem go away!
Tina: My parents won’t even let me watch Twilight. My mom says she thinks Kristin Stewart seems like a bitch.
Figgins: This is a serious problem! Miss Cohen-Chang, you’ve got to find yourself another style of dress!
Will: Hold on a second. Tina is shy and one way she’s found to express herself is through her clothes. High school is an incredibly important time when kids get to explore who they are. When I was in high school, I had a whole year where I dressed exactly like Kurt Cobain. I mean, come on. There has to be someone who you used to dress like.
Figgins: Yes. For several years in my early 20s, I dressed up as Elvis. But he was a Christian, Will! And he did not possess the ability to transform into a bat!
Tina (whispering to Will): I think he believes vampires are real.
Will: I think you’re right.
Figgins: Studies have shown that a strict dress code fosters a safe and stable learning environment with fewer instances of gang violence and vampirism. So, if I see you dressed in lacy demon clothes again, Tina Cohen-Chang, (pounds desk) You will be suspended!
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In the Choir Room, All the Glee Club and Mr Schue looked at Tina changed her look and wears a jogging that looks like pajamas.
Artie: It’s so weird.
Finn: This so isn't you.
Tina: I feel like an Asian Branch Davidian.
Will: Tina, are there any other looks you can try?
Santana: Biker chick? (Tina puts her thumb down showing she doesn’t agree)
Finn: Cowgirl?
Mercedes: Hood rat.
Quinn: Computer programmer.
Britanny: Cross-country skier.
Puck: Catholic schoolgirl.
Britanny: Happy Meal, no onions. Or a chicken.
Tina: Look, I appreciate it, guys,but it just isn’t me. I know who I am, and I’m not allowed to show it. It’s like communism.
Rachel (showing up in the room): Guys, we have a serious problem. You know how I’ve been doing some deep background on Vocal Adrenaline?
Artie: Isn’t that against the rules?
Rachel: No, not at all. Or probably. Whatever! Anyway, what I figured out; I rooted through the Dumpsters behind the Carmel auditorium and I found 18 empty boxes of Christmas lights.
Tina: Oh, no.
Rachel: Which led me to Joelle Fabrics. I asked them about red Chantilly lace. They were sold out.
Mercedes: Oh, sweet Jesus.
Kurt: Oh, my.
Will: Wait, what?
Kurt: They’re doing Gaga.
Mercedes: That’s it. It’s over.
Rachel: Exactly.
Kurt: We should have guessed it. They’re going for full-out theatricality. They know it’s the easiest way to beat us. Damn them.
Puck: What’s up with this Gaga dude? He just, like, dresses weird,right? Like Bowie?
Rachel scoffs
Kurt (aggresive to Puck): Lady Gaga is a woman. She’s only the biggest pop act to come along in decades. She’s boundary-pushing, the most theatrical performer of our generation. And she changes her look faster than Brit changes sexual partners.
Britanny: That’s true.
Artie: It makes sense that Vocal Adrenaline would pay homage. It's a brilliant move. She’s a perfect fit for them.
Will: Hold on a second. We might be able to kill two birds with one stone here. We can help Tina find a new look and find a competitive number for regionals. This week, your assignment : Gaga.
The girls and Kurt are gasping and murmuring, the guys don’t seem as happy as them of the week challenge.
Rachel: Pens, we need pens. My ideas just come to me.
Will: Uh, my office. Right there.
Rachel: I’m brainstorming. It’s coming.
–—–—
Finn knocks on the door to Will’s office.
Will: Oh, hey, Finn, come on in. (He enters) I’m learning all this amazing stuff about Lady Gaga. She’s got this thing called the "Haus of Gaga" which is like this collective of artists and designers who collaborate on, on her styles and stage sets and her music. I think it’s an exciting model for what we could be doing in Glee Club.
Finn: Yeah, that’s kind of what I wanted to talk to you about. I don’t want to do Lady Gaga. And I suspect that... with the exception of Kurt... that none of the other guysare gonna want to do it either. I just feel like we’re always doing whatever the girls want us to do.
Will: Yeah. Yeah, you’re right. Maybe I haven’t been listening to you guys hard enough. So let’s find a solution.
Finn: Well, I, uh, I actually already have one.
—––—
Quinn was annoyed by Puck by what he just told her.
Puck: You’re wrong. It’s a really good name. It’s a rock star name.
Quinn: You want to name our daughter"Jack Daniels" ? She’s a girl !
Puck: Okay, fine, whatever. Jackie Daniels.
Quinn: The name is not the point. I told you this.I’m giving up the baby so I don’t have to do this with you. This is good for you. Now you can go off and be a rock star yourself.
Kurt and Tina entered the school, wearing outfits that Lady Gaga have wore before.
Tina: I love wearing champagne bubbles! I get to express a whole different side of myself! Because even though I’m painfully shy and obsessed with death, I’m a really effervescent person.
Karofsky and Azimio push them against the lockers but Kurt disagrees.
Kurt: Excuse me! Were you dropped on your heads?!
Karofsky: What was that?
Kurt: I think you heard me. I’m just saying. Pick on me - that’s fine - but don’t throw around a girl.
Kurt : I think you heard me. I’m just saying. Pick on me that’s fine, but don’t throw around a girl.
Azimio: Well, you know, lately, we haven’t been able to tell the difference. We’re not gaga for Gaga.
Karofsky: You dress all freaky, and then you rub it in everybody's faces. I don’t want to look at it all day! It’s weird. It makes my eyes tired.
Azimio: If you want to switch it up a bit, just go from Gap to Banana Republic.
Kurt: It’s called being theatrical. We’re showing off who you are. It’s the same thing you do when you go to school with your football uniforms on. You’re expressing yourself, and we have every right to do the same.
Azimio: Well, you know what? The next time you want to express yourself a little like a circus freak, don’t be shocked when my fist (shocks the locker with his fist) feels like expressing itself against your chin! Okay? Knock that crazy fool crepe-paper nonsense offa you.
Karofsky: Let’s go.
Kurt: Yeah, you don’t want to be late for your appointment at Supercuts!
Azimio: Watch your mouth, Hummel!
Karofsky: And you know what, fancy? You don’t need an appointment at Supercuts. They love walk-ins.
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All the ladies and Kurt were in Lady Gaga iconic outfits as they were all in the choir room.
Will: Little monsters, take a bow. (He laughs, applauses) All right! Ladies, Kurt, I am really, really impressed. Sientete. (They all sat down) You know, you know what the best part is? Each one of those costumes shows off a different aspect of your personalities.
Puck: Wait. Where’s Rachel? I mean, I only noticed because, like five minutes have without her saying something totally obnoxious.
Mercedes: Rachel kinda got some intense news yesterday.
Quinn: We were spying on Vocal Adrenaline, and...
Will (cuting her): You guys, that’s not fair! You gotta stop doing that. But, uh, you know, what, what'd you find out?
Mercedes: Okay, y'all ready? Miss Corcoran, their coach? She’s Rachel’s mom.
Will: Are you serious?
Artie: Way to bury the lead, Mercedes.
Puck: We’re screwed. Rachel's gonna jump ship over to Vocal Adrenaline.
Rachel: Never! (She entered the room in a outfit with stuff animals all over the look.) I really don’t want to talk about it, though. I’m still processing the news. And my dads are moving my therapist to our spare room later this afternoon. All I can know is that I’m not going anywhere, and I’ve chosen a Lady Gaga look that expresses the longing for a childhood I was deprived of.
Britanny: You look terrible. I look awesome.
Mercedes: I think it’s the Kermit the Frog look.
Kurt: And we have a jumper.
Rachel: Well, my dads can’t sew, so these are just stapled on.
Will: Guys, why don’t we worry about this later, and maybe try to focus on the song?
Rachel: Couldn’t agree more. Hit it!
Kurt: Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah, Roma, roma-mah-mah Gaga, ooh la la, want your bad romance!
Tina: I want your ugly, I want your disease, I want your everything as long as it’s free. I want your love, Love, love, love. I want your love.
Mercedes: I want your psycho, your vertigo stick. Want you in my rear window, baby, you’re sick
Girl and Kurt: I want your love. Love, love, love, I want your love. I want your love.
Quinn: You know that I want you and you know that I need you. (Kurt: Because I’m a freak, baby!) I want it bad, bad romance.
Girls and Kurt: I want your love and I want your revenge. You and me could write a bad romance. I want your love and all your lover's revenge you and me could write a bad romance. Caught in a bad romance.
Tina: Walk, walk fashion baby, work it, move that thing crazy. (All girls:) Walk, walk fashion baby, work it, move that thing crazy. Walk, walk fashion baby, work it, move that thing crazy Walk, walk passion baby, work it. I’m a freak, baby!
Santana: I want your love and I want your revenge I want your love I don’t want to be friends! Want your bad romance! (Kurt: Caught in a bad romance) Want your bad romance!
Girls and Kurt: You and me could write a bad romance. I want your love and all your lover's revenge. You and me could write a bad romance (Santana: Want your bad romance) Caught in a bad romance Want your bad romance, want your bad romance. Rah-rah-ah-ah-ah, Roma, roma-mah-mah. Gaga, ooh la la Want your bad romance!
The boys and Schuester all clapped for them.
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In the boys washroom, Finn is drawing a lighter on his face with a Kohl crayon but Azimio and Karofsky come out from the toilet and caught him with the make up on his face
Karofsky: What up, Finn?
Azimio: What’s that on your face? You got a bad pimple or something?
Karofsky: A Finn-ple?
Azimio and Karofsky laugh
Karofsky: Dude, are you wearing makeup?
Azimio: I knew it was contagious. You moved in with that little Kurt kid, and now you got a bad case of the gay.
Finn: It’s just something for Glee Club, all right?
Karofsky: Oh, well, then it’s (He pushes Finn back) definitely not gay, huh?
Finn (pushing him back): Get out of my way!
Azimio: Man, how many times do we got go through this?! You being a jock and being in this Glee Club does not make you versatile. It makes you bisexual.
Karofsky: And if we have to kick your ass to make you understand that, then our schedules are wide open.
Azimio: Get out of my bathroom. You girls, y'all belong across the hallway. Glee boy!
Karofsky laughs and they both get out of the bathroom leaving Finn ashamed. He sighs.
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The girls and Kurt are sitting in the bleachers waiting for the guys to show up their theatricality. Rachel entered the auditorium in a pure Lady Gaga outfit.
Rachel : Sorry I’m late.
Mercedes : Whoa, looking good, Rachel !
Rachel : Thanks. My mom made it.
Britanny (in the background): Very nice.
Will: Well, we’re all here, so without further ado, I’d like to introduce The Boys!
Artie (from the backstadge): Lima, Ohio, get ready to rock!
The curtains open to see the boys in KISS costume and makeup. Girls laugh and cheer the boys as if they were rockstars.
Finn: Well, the night's begun and you want some fun. Do you think you’re gonna find it? (New Direction Boys: Think you’re gonna find it)
Puck: You got to treat yourself like number one. Do you need to be reminded? (New Direction Boys: Need to be reminded)
Artie (with New Directions Boys): It doesn’t matter what you do or say. Just forget the things that you’ve been told. We can't do it any other way. Everybody's got to rock and...(roll) (Whoo, oh, oh)
Artie, Finn, and Puck with New Direction Boys: Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud, shout it, shout it, shout it out loud.
Finn (New Direction Boys): If you don’t feel good, there’s a way you could. Don’t sit there broken-hearted (Sit there broken hearted). Call all your friends in the neighborhood and get the party started (Get the party started)
Puck with Artie: Don’t let them tell you that there's too much noise They’re too old to really understand. You’ll still get rowdy with the girls and boys, Cause it’s time for you to take a stand
Artie, Finn, and Puck with New Direction Boys: Yeah, yeah Yeah! Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud (Puck: You’ve got to have a party). Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud (Finn: Turn it up louder). Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud (Artie: Everybody shout it, now) Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud (Puck: Oh yeah, yeah). Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud (Finn: I hear it getting louder) Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud (Artie: And everybody shout it now). Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud
Finn and Puck: Nooooo-ohhh! (Artie: Whoaah!)
Will: All right, guys, very impressive. Very, very... loud. (chuckles). But what, uh, what does that performance express? And what do those costumes illustrate?
Mike: We did our research, Mr. Shue.
Puck: Yeah, Finn’s demon look is because Gene Simmons liked comic books as a kid, and they called Paul Stanley the "Star Child" because he was a romantic or something. But that doesn’t really explain my whore lips.
Artie: And my Ace Frehley is supposed to be a spaceman from another planet. Mike's iconic catman is because Peter Criss claimed to have nine lives.
Matt: Yeah, and I’m dressed as the guy who replaced Artie when he quits.
Will: Well, congratulations, guys. Job well done. Let’s give it up for the boys!
The girls all cheer them up.
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In the hallway,
Kurt: I thought the boy's KISS number was good, although the lyrics did leave something to be desired.
Tina: And Finn kept sticking his tongue out and I couldn’t stop picturing him licking stuff. It was disturbing.
They’re stopped on their way by Karofsky and Azimio looking angry because of the Gaga's clothes that Kurt and Tina are still wearing.
Karofsky: We warned you.
Azimio: Now Gaga's got to go.
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In the choir room...
Kurt: You look like you should be in orbit.
Tina: My balls keep falling off.
Kurt: I’ve been there. (He looks at Finn with anger)
Finn (whispering to Kurt): I want to talk about this.
Kurt (whispering back to him with arrogance): There’s not much to say. I feel sorry for you. I thought you were different.
Finn: I am different.
They are cutting off in their talk by Mr. Schue.
Will: All right, let’s get things started.
Puck: Mr. Shue. There’s something I want to say to Quinn. And I want everybody to hear it.
Will: All right.
Puck (walking into the room): At first I didn’t really get this theatrical assignment, being larger than life and putting it all out there,'cause I’m kind of like that all the time. That’s how my dad was, too. He was too busy being all crazy and rock and roll to be there for his kid. And you know what? I didn’t care that my dad was a badass. I just wanted him to be there. And he never was. And then I learned all this KISS stuff and while Jackie Daniels is a great name for like a powerboat or something, it’s not right for a baby girl. So if my KISS mates will help me out, I got a better idea. Grab a stool, guys.
Puck: Beth I hear you calling, but I can’t come home right now. Me and the boys are playing and we just can’t find the sound.
Puck with New Directions Boys: Just a few more hours and I’ll be right home to you. I think I hear them calling, Oh, Beth, what can I do? Beth what can I do?
Finn: You say you feel so empty that our house just ain’t a home. And I’m always somewhere else and you’re always there alone
Finn and Puck with New Directions Boys: Just a few more hours and I’ll be right home to you. I think I hear them calling Oh, Beth, what can I do? Beth what can I do?
Puck: Beth, I know you’re lonely and I hope you’ll be alright. 'Cause me and the boys will be playing all night. All night
Puck (to Quinn): I know you’re giving her up, but before you do, I think you should name her Beth. If you’ll let me, I’d really like to be there when she’s born. I’d really like to meet her.
Quinn nods with tears in her eyes.
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Will walks into the Choir Room.
Will: Whoa! Guys, why are you all in your theatricality costumes?
Artie: It’s the end of the week. We were kinda hoping to learn what the lesson of the assignment was.
Will: Well, um... You guys have had some great numbers this week, but I’m not totally sure that I know either.
They all laugh.
Tina (coming into the room in her Gothic clothes): I do. I refuse to dress like somebody I’m not to be somebody I’m not. And I learned it’s good to be a little theatrical.
Flash Back :School Corridor - Tina and Figgins
Figgins is going home but runs into Tina who's dressed like a vampire.
Tina: So here’s what’s going to happen. My dad - he’s the king of the vampires. And Asian vampires are the most vicious of all the vampires. You’re going to let me wear my lady demon clothes, or my dad will fly into your bedroom and bite your face off. He’s really pissed. Is that what you want?
Figgins: No, I don’t want that. I’m afraid.
Tina: Good. I’m glad we had this talk. Now I have to go back to my coffin because the light is burning my eyes!
End of Flash Back
All the members of the Glee Club applause and cheer Tina.
Will: There she is.
Artie: Wait. Where’s Kurt and where’s Finn?
Azimio and Karofsky are holding back Kurt against the corridor wall.
Kurt: Fine. You want to hit me? You want to beat me up? Go ahead. But I swear to you. I will never change. I’m proud to be different. It’s the best thing about me. So go ahead, hit me.
Azimio: I believe I will. (To Karofsky) Sir, would you like to go first?
Finn: You’re not hitting anyone.
Kurt: Oh, my God.
Azimio: Is he wearing a red rubber dress or am I tripping?
Finn: I want to thank you, Kurt. I realize I still have a lot to learn, but the reason I’m here right now in a shower curtain, is... Because of you. And I’m not going to let anyone lay a hand on you.
Karofsky : (chuckles) Oh, really, dude ? 'Cause I'm pretty sure we can take both of you.
Puck (following by all the Glee Club): Yeah? But can you take all of us?
Azimio: Okay. Okay, I get it. I took biology. You know what, Karofsky? We done disturbed the freak hive. The worker freaks is trying to protect the queen freak.
Karofsky: Next time... We’ll bring some friends, too.
They both leave.
Rachel: I’m tired of everyone calling us freaks.
Mercedes: Take a look at us. We are freaks.
They all laugh.
Finn: But we’re all freaks together. (He looks at Kurt that joins them and responds to the smile his almost brother gives him) And we shouldn’t have to hide it.
Will (clapping): Nice job, Finn. I think you just figured out what the lesson was. Kinda makes me wish I had planned it. But Mercedes is right, you do all look incredibly insane.
All the Gleeks: Thank you. Thank you.
Will: You’re so welcome. Anyways, let’s get back to work before you’re all forced to join the circus. Next stop? Regionals.
They all get back to the choir room and Kurt and Finn congratulate each other for their Lady Gaga's outfit.
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#alyssaalhadeff dear Lord I ain't climbing but Alyssa inspirited can come down to the church in spirit you know people when you talk through a ghost spirit box communicator you can talk to anyone of them angels or the ones who died this year Halloween is in October and October 2, we're having candy giveaway and food good Halloween party christian praise team and on November and December thanksgiving and Christmas party at the church Harlem baptist church Christmas christian praise team danyardandsonbarnwellfuneralhome pastor perry brother Marcus brother Cody brother Jacob pastor hades and brother Terry brother Eddie brother Edward brother Tony ghost and pastor Christmas Dr pastor Santa Claus sr and brother turkey Dr pastor Cyrus Renault Sr and deacon Dante falconeri Jr with mother Connie #fyi #danyardandsonbarnwellfuneralhome #christianpraiseteam #harlembaptistchurch May Alyssa rest in peace easy up there let there be peace let there be love let there be joy let there be mercy as we continue
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omg yes I think that's such an important point: different scholar's assumptions will absolutely skew interpretation
More broadly, for everyone not already familiar, I think it's worth mentioning the most accurate summary (or warning) in historical Jesus scholarship:
"When historical Jesus scholars look down into the deep well of the evidence for Jesus, they tend to see a Jesus that looks a lot like themselves."
For folks who don't read much on this, it's not an exaggeration. Mystics see a mystic. Conservatives see a conservative. Marxists see a Marxist. Christians, most famously lol, see a Christian (i.e., some one who thinks Jesus was Christ). Theories on the historical Jesus are a goddam Rorschach test.
The criterion of embarrassment (and any of the other criteria) are only useful when we can make reasonable assumptions about the historical community whose views are represented by a given gospel and by its place in the timeline. For me personally, I think the fact that Jesus was executed does fit that embarrassment criterion.
Not trying to convince you, btw, it's way more interesting and fun when thoughtful people disagree with you than if they all agree. I'm just musing my own musings. I can't over-exaggerate how much I'd love to hear more of yours!
Jesus getting executed probably wasn't a... great time for the initial movement. But, given how malleable reality and memory are to people who Believe In Things, somebody had to have a doubled-down genuine revelation (dream, "vision", whatever) of "he's not actually dead" or the movement would've fizzled out. We see that all the time in various When Prophecy Fails kinds of examples, so that's easy to explain.
To my mind, since the Messiah's role in Judaism is very specific, I think a failure to fulfill those was embarrassing. That's why the gospel with the most knowledge of Jewish tradition, Matthew, tries so hard to prove Jesus fits into that tradition (for those who don't know, Matthew also has clunky Greek-as-a-second-language vibes and Aramaic turns of phrase, which also supports the idea that he wasn't born a gentile). If there isn't a Jewish belief in the Messiah getting executed, but the guy who you, a Jew, believe to be the Messiah gets executed, to me it makes sense that we then see such laborious arguments that prove that otherwise this dude otherwise totally fit all the Messiah criteria. Which then can counterbalance that awkward "executed, resurrected, overdue" thing, which Matthew spends so much energy trying to establish as all having been according to plan, bless him. That's just my take, though!
I also want to give a shout out to Matthew for working so hard on the "Jesus is the Jewish Messiah because he's from the line of David" thing when a key part of the story is that Jesus is the son of God, not our boy Joseph. Genuinely my favorite gospel 10/10 no one worked as hard as Matt.
I'm with you on the women at the tomb thing, though. Or, even if it wasn't a historical event, absolutely as a proof of an underlying history of women's importance in the early church. Like, as a story in circulation, it shows that this memory of the role of women was so fundamental to the communities involved in those earliest rounds of story-telling, and so widely spread, that no one could exclude it from the later phases of gospel transmission. By the time it would've been "embarrassment", we would've in those later pseudo-Pauline epistle* eras.
*For those who don't know, the pseudo-Pauline epistles are letters attributed to Paul, but which we either are super sure or mostly sure Paul did not himself write. My number one most hated pseudo-deffo-not-Pauline epistle gave us this:
If we do a Team Edward and Team Jacob, I'm on Team Peter rather than Team Paul, just because I think it would've been funnier if Peter won. But at least Paul didn't write bullshit like 1 Timothy.
i think its plausible the historical jesus (asuming he existed) was actually executed by the romans, their occupation was very repressive in the first centuries AD and BC, but also "the messiah came and the romans executed him as a criminal" is comically good anti-roman propaganda in roman judea (altho after the destruction of the temple its kind of redundant. i guess you could see them as consonant)
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More modern Newsies headcanons
JACK
His full name is Jeremy Christian Kelly
No, he doesn’t know how he got the nickname “Jack” from “Jeremy”
He got adopted by Medda when he was ten
He’s moderately famous on DeviantArt (his username is i-got-no-use-for-moon-light (as far as I know, this isn’t an actual username on DeviantArt))
He dated Katherine for a while before they both realized they were gay af and broke up to pursue the Jacobs twins
They have more of a brother/sister relationship now
He is madly in love with Davey and has a sketchbook dedicated solely to him
His birthday is March 29th (the day Newsies opened on Broadway)
This man is 100% Gryffindor
His favorite color is green
DAVEY
Okay you KNOW this boy is in all AP classes
He is obsessed with random trivia
Drives a giant van
It used to be his aunt’s until her kids moved out and she gave it to Davey
The others all make fun of him for this until it’s time to carpool, then everyone wants to ride in the van with Davey and their friends
He has a dozen stick figure window cling thingamabobs with all the newsies’ names on them
His middle name is Benjamin
His favorite color is blue
RACE (I know I already made a whole post dedicated to modern Race hcs but I HAVE MORE)
He and Jack are the same age (but Jack is older by a month)
He got adopted by Medda when he was ten
His birthday is April 10th (the day the Newsies movie was released)
He’s Irish and tends to switch to Irish when he’s mad
So if he catches Jack eating his pizza he just starts screaming in Irish and Jack doesn’t understand a word he’s saying but he gets the message that he is PISSED
His favorite nickname for Spot is sweetheart
He tried out for the mathletes once (it didn’t go well)
He’s on the track team (which is how he got his nickname)
His real name is Edward but he goes by Ed so he doesn’t sound like a sparkly vampire
SPOT
He has a Tumblr blog where he posts random shit the newsies say and it’s actually really popular
Race and Albert are frequently featured (because those two are living shitposts)
Race has ADHD so Spot gets him fidget toys and things related to his special interests because he is a considerate boy who takes his boyfriend’s wants and needs into account
Literally nobody knows what his real name is
What they do know is that he has two middle names - Gabriel and Thomas
He is a Hufflepuff but he will say he is a Slytherin until the DAY HE DIES
He’s Irish like Race and he also screams in Irish when he’s mad
I would like to present: Race and Spot screaming in Irish at each other while Jack and Davey try to break up the fight
He makes slingshots out of a rubber band and a paperclip and has little shooting contests with Finch sometimes
He and Race have long conversations about random things in Irish
His favorite color is pink
CRUTCHIE
He got adopted by Medda when he was eight
He’s two years younger than Jack and Race
His favorite color is pastel yellow
He was born with the problems in his leg and he normally uses crutches and leg braces to get around
However he does occasionally use a wheelchair when he needs to
His middle name is Andrew
#newsies#sprace#javid#javey#jack kelly#davey jacobs#david jacobs#spot conlon#jack kelly x david jacobs#jack kelly x davey jacobs#spot conlon x racetrack higgins#spot conlon x race higgins#racetrack newsies#race higgins#racetrack higgins#crutchie morris#crutchie#crutchie newsies
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Hi! What’re your thoughts on the vampire academy trailer?
Sooooo I have a lot of concerns about this lol
The trailer in general doesn't look great. I'm not going to judge anyone's acting because there was pretty little to judge it off of; a lot of action shots, very little lines. And tbh, I can see fans dogpiling on Sisi as Rose from spaaace and like... I don't think that has... fuck all to do with her acting. But in general, the trailer looks like a pretty dry, dated, 2008-2010 era moment. Like when people were trying to copy Twilight but make it more of a "world" and "actiony" because they thought that this!!! Would get them the asses in the seats!!! Kissing vampires sure but also ACTION!!!! FOR THE BOYS!!!
When, speaking as a hardcore Twihard from back in the day, nobody gave a fuck about the action. Twilight was successful because it gave the teen girls (and some boys and nbs) what they wanted--forbidden love, guys with their shirts off professing their undying devotion, boys fights over a self insert, and of course, the MASSSSIIIIIIVE virginity tension, both literal and metaphorical. Like, our girlhoods were trembling, and not for the meager action sequences. And few people got this, which is why shit like The Mortal Instruments flopped, and many YA follow ups that tried to go BIGGER! BIGGER!!!!! have had less of a lasting pop cultural impact (see: The Hunger Games movies--everybody and their mom knows Team Edward versus Team Jacob, but the pool of people who know Peeta and Gale beyond "the Josh Hutcherson one and the Liam Hemsworth one" is more limited).
So yeah, it looks very dated on that front. And to be fucking frank--I read all those books, and the Adrian/Sydney spinoff series. I wasn't picking all that shit up for the action. The fighting added stakes, but everyone was hanging on for the relationships. It's that fucking simple, and I wish more people got that.
But I'm also concerned because Julie Plec can't run a show to save her life, picks (usually white) actors to favor, and is honestly pretty fucking racist and a protector of right wingers like Matt Davis, which makes me think she is probably lowkey or highkey a sympathizer. So I'm super worried about how she's going to handle this. I fucking know she's gonna promote this show expecting a pat on the back because Sisi is playing Rose, Andre is playing Christian, etc. I'm for that myself. But do I think Julie Plec will sensitively navigate Rose being Black instead of white? Lmao no. Tbh, Rose does play what is really an explicitly, societally subservient role to Lissa. While I honestly don't know exactly how Daniela identifies beyond being Venezuelan (and Google has not given me anything), she's at minimum white passing in a way that Sisi never could be; so watching Sisi play a guard who's supposed to lay down her life for this princess is like...? Not great to me? Shades of Bonnie being expected to lay her life down for Elena and Caroline and Damon and everyone?
But also, to be frank, the books succeeded in a way that I honestly think people would be up in arms about today, and I don't really know how that hurdle is going to be covered. A part of the big appeal of that original series was shipping--and Rose/Dimitri was very popular (a ship I totally supported, lol). In the wake of Buffy/Angel it wasn't like... as weird, I think? But Rose was 17, he was 24!!!! Literally her teacher!!! And like, I think we'd be fucking lying if we said that the taboo element wasn't part of what kept us hanging on. You can't do that today. Fuck, you really probably can't do the "Adrian and Sydney get married even though she's like all of 18" shit from the spin off books either.
It's just. I don't know. I feel like the time to adapt the series has passed, they tried it already, and if it was going to happen everyone would probably need to be real cool with some shit I know they aren't cool about, and also get rid of Plec.
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rambling annoying feelings
fully agree that (the post i saw earlier about a harry potter themed wedding) was cringe and weird but 'how do you function among adults' is kind of nonsense. Adults are just people. some people are cringey. if they have their life together enough to throw a wedding with 60 people then they are perfectly functional adults. you dont just stop being a fandom nerd suddenly when you hit 23, you dont drop your whole cringe personality, youre the same person but your back hurts now
when i was a teenager and twilight was coming out my mom was obsessed with it, went to the store at midnight to buy the new books, was always wanting to talk about the the relationships in it, she was in her mid 40s. when i was around 18 and the movies were rolling out my boss (around 50) was desperately engaged in shipping discourse about it-- but only out loud to people she knew, her coworkers, she just didnt have an online fandom aspect. She was a fully functioning person with a career and two kids and a horse and show dogs she brought competitions-- and she had long aggressive conversations with me about Team Jacob vs Team Edward where other adult lab tech coworkers would also drift in to engage.
I didnt even like twilight, i just prefered talking about twilight shipping than i did about how incredibly christian and homophobic she was. Even uncool and unnerdy adults are just people and get sucked into movies-- its what movies are for.
most people are cringey and weird if you talk to them long enough. My aunt hates the very concept of movies, cartoons, video games, and television and she throws football parties and screams at the tv-- but she went upstairs to put on some fucking fish movie for babies at the party and got totally sucked in by it, laughing at all the fart jokes, and forgot to go back down and watch football. This woman almost disowned me once for insisting she had a game system in her house as a child (because my mom said so)-- but she still would watch the worst comedy movies once a month and start crying and sobbing with investment into the characters and universes, no matter how low brow it was.
the woman was a senior member of a well known computer company that got sent to europe every other week to hold meetings with the foreign task forces and im pretty sure was a millionaire built on her hard work and charisma (and luck)-- and she was just full wet sobbing at the movie 'just friends' and completely thinks 'idiocracy' is a portent of the future (yes, she has some clear 'poor people breeding will ruin america and we have to control them' thoughts. this high powered executive type)
'being an adult' doesnt mean your mature or have good taste in media, is what im saying, havign bad taste in media doesnt mean youll never be successful at life or cant communicate with people-- they just live in a nice little bubble and have no concept of the word cringe and are their regular terrible selves 24/7 without worry.
#rant#long post#its not like a GOOD thing that these bad people like bad things im just saying that being an adult doesnt mean you grow out of bad taste#having a good job and working hard doesnt make you a good person#likign a bad thing wont mean you wont ever be successful at life#etc#its jsut silly. this expectation that youll just magically stop caring about stuff you like at 23 is so dumb.#its mass marketed media for as wide an audience as possible#name whatever trashy thing you like its not expecting its entire audience to be under 23#adult cartoonss and r rated comedies are generally the trashiest bullshit out there and it is aimed at the over 18 crowd#and if you think thats 18-23 exclusively youve got a wild ride ahead of you
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#alyssaalhadeff dear Lord I ain't climbing but Alyssa inspirited can come down to the church in spirit you know people when you talk through a ghost spirit box communicator you can talk to anyone of them angels or the ones who died this year Halloween is in October and October 2, we're having candy giveaway and food good Halloween party christian praise team and on November and December thanksgiving and Christmas party at the church Harlem baptist church Christmas christian praise team danyardandsonbarnwellfuneralhome pastor perry brother Marcus brother Cody brother Jacob pastor hades and brother Terry brother Eddie brother Edward brother Tony ghost and pastor Christmas Dr pastor Santa Claus sr and brother turkey Dr pastor Cyrus Renault Sr and deacon Dante falconeri Jr with mother Connie #fyi #danyardandsonbarnwellfuneralhome #christianpraiseteam #harlembaptistchurch May Alyssa rest in peace easy up there let there be peace let there be love let there be joy let there be mercy as we continue
#alyssaalhadeff dear Lord I ain't climbing but Alyssa inspirited can come down to the church in spirit you know people when you talk through a ghost spirit box communicator you can talk to anyone of them angels or the ones who died this year Halloween is in October and October 2, we're having candy giveaway and food good Halloween party christian praise team and on November and December thanksgiving and Christmas party at the church Harlem baptist church Christmas christian praise team danyardandsonbarnwellfuneralhome pastor perry brother Marcus brother Cody brother Jacob pastor hades and brother Terry brother Eddie brother Edward brother Tony ghost and pastor Christmas Dr pastor Santa Claus sr and brother turkey Dr pastor Cyrus Renault Sr and deacon Dante falconeri Jr with mother Connie #fyi #danyardandsonbarnwellfuneralhome #christianpraiseteam #harlembaptistchurch May Alyssa rest in peace easy up there let there be peace let there be love let there be joy let there be mercy as we continue
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Teams: Manly's axing after show-stopping game
The NRL's form player of the year, Tom Trbojevic, is set to make his return for the Sea Eagles after missing round 23 with a facial injury.Last week, Trbojevic was ruled out as a precaution amid conflicting reports the superstar fullback had damaged a pre-existing facial fracture.
Tom Trbojevic (Getty)While serious injury concerns were put to bed, the Sea Eagles took no chance, resting their talisman who is set to make an emphatic return against the Bulldogs this week.Meanwhile, star teammate Moses Suli has been dropped from Des Hasler's squad despite putting up a stellar man of the match performance last week. Suli has been dropped to reserves, replaced by Brad Parker who slots straight into the centres.
Moses Suli. (Getty)Elsewhere, it's tough luck for the Tigers who have the unfortunate task of taking on the Panthers without standout star Adam Doueihi who has been sidelined with a knee injury.To make matters harder for Michael Maguire's men, star winger Brian To'o has made an early return from injury and will line up on Sunday evening.Meanwhile, the Raiders have dumped halfback Sam Williams after back-to-back critical losses to the Storm and Manly.
Adam Doueihi inspires the Tigers to a big win over the Knights. (Getty) (Getty)
NRL Teams
THURSDAYNewcastle Knights vs Gold Coast Titans, 7.50pm at Sunshine Coast StadiumKnights: 1. Kalyn Ponga 2. Enari Tuala 3. Kurt Mann 4. Bradman Best 5. Hymel Hunt 6. Jake Clifford 7. Mitchell Pearce 8. Sauaso Sue 9. Jayden Brailey 10. Jacob Saifiti 11. Tyson Frizell 12. Mitchell Barnett 13. Connor Watson 14. Brodie Jones 15. Chris Randall 16. Josh King 17. Jirah Momoisea 18. Jack Johns 19. Pasami Saulo 20. Simi Sasagi 21. Phoenix CrosslandTitans: 1. Jayden Campbell 2. Phillip Sami 3. Brian Kelly 4. Patrick Herbert 5. Corey Thompson 6. Tyrone Peachey 7. Jamal Fogarty 8. Jarrod Wallace 9. Mitch Rein 10. Tino Fa'asuamaleaui 11. Kevin Proctor 12. Beau Fermor 13. Sam McIntyre 14. Erin Clark 15. David Fifita 16. Moeaki Fotuaika 17. Jaimin Jolliffe 18. Toby Sexton 19. Sam Lisone 20. Esan Marsters 21. Greg MarzhewFRIDAYWarriors vs Canberra Raiders, 6pm at BB Print StadiumWarriors: 1. Reece Walsh 2. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 3. Peta Hiku 4. Adam Pompey 5. Marcelo Montoya 6. Sean O'Sullivan 7. Chad Townsend 8. Addin Fonua-Blake 9. Wayde Egan 10. Matt Lodge 11. Josh Curran 12. Euan Aitken 13. Bayley Sironen 14. Kodi Nikorima 15. Bunty Afoa 16. Eliesa Katoa 17. Jazz Tevaga 18. Jamayne Taunoa-Brown 20. Rocco Berry 21. Kane Evans 22. Jack MurchieRaiders: 1. Jordan Rapana 2. Bailey Simonsson 3. Sebastian Kris 4. Matthew Timoko 5. Harley Smith-Shields 6. Jack Wighton 7. Matt Frawley 8. Josh Papali'i 9. Josh Hodgson 10. Joseph Tapine 11. Hudson Young 12. Elliott Whitehead 13. Ryan Sutton 14. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad 15. Emre Guler 16. Corey Horsburgh 17. Siliva Havili 18. Sam Williams 19. Dunamis Lui 20. Semi Valemei 21. Trey MooneySydney Roosters vs South Sydney Rabbitohs, 7.55pm at Suncorp StadiumRoosters: 1. James Tedesco 2. Daniel Tupou 3. Lachlan Lam 4. Joseph Manu 5. Brad Abbey 6. Drew Hutchison 7. Sam Walker 8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves 9. Sam Verrills 10. Siosiua Taukeiaho 11. Egan Butcher 12. Sitili Tupouniua 13. Isaac Liu 14. Ben Marschke 15. Naufahu Whyte 16. Fletcher Baker 17. Ben Thomas 18. Moala Graham-Taufa 19. Tukupa Hau Tapuha 20. Daniel Suluka-FifitaRabbitohs: 1. Latrell Mitchell 2. Alex Johnston 3. Dane Gagai 4. Campbell Graham 5. Jaxson Paulo 6. Cody Walker 7. Adam Reynolds 8. Mark Nicholls 9. Damien Cook 10. Thomas Burgess 11. Jaydn Su'A 12. Jai Arrow 13. Cameron Murray 14. Benji Marshall 15. Jacob Host 16. Tevita Tatola 17. Hame Sele 18. Liam Knight 19. Blake Taaffe 20. Peter Mamouzelos 21. Taane Milne
Latrell Mitchell (Getty)SATURDAYSt George Illawarra Dragons vs North Queensland Cowboys, 3pm at Browne ParkDragons: 1. Tyrell Sloan 2. Mathew Feagai 3. Jack Bird 4. Zac Lomax 5. Mikaele Ravalawa 6. Talatau Amone 7. Corey Norman 8. Blake Lawrie 9. Jayden Sullivan 10. Josh Mcguire 11. Billy Burns 12. Tariq Sims 13. Jack de Belin 14. Freddy Lussick 15. Tyrell Fuimaono 16. Daniel Alvaro 17. Jackson Ford 18. Kaide Ellis 19. Poasa Faamausili 20. Gerard Beale 21. Josh KerrCowboys: 1. Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow 2. Kyle Feldt 3. Valentine Holmes 4. Ben Hampton 5. Murray Taulagi 6. Scott Drinkwater 7. Tom Dearden 8. Jason Taumalolo 9. Reece Robson 10. Jordan McLean 11. Ben Condon 12. Heilum Luki 13. Reuben Cotter 14. Jake Granville 15. Jeremiah Nanai 16. Mitchell Dunn 17. Griffin Neame 18. Tom Gilbert 19. Daejarn Asi 20. Francis Molo 21. Laitia MoceidrekeCronulla Sharks vs Brisbane Broncos, 5.30pm at Suncorp StadiumSharks: 1. Will Kennedy 2. Sione Katoa 3. Connor Tracey 4. Jesse Ramien 5. Mawene Hiroti 6. Luke Metcalf 7. Braydon Trindall 8. Toby Rudolf 9. Blayke Brailey 10. Aaron Woods 11. Briton Nikora 12. Siosifa Talakai 13. Jack Williams 14. Matt Moylan 15. Braden Hamlin-Uele 16. Aiden Tolman 17. Teig Wilton 18. Kai O'Donnell 19. Billy Magoulias 20. Jenson Taumoepeau 21. Joniah LualuaBroncos: 1. Tesi Niu 2. Corey Oates 3. Selwyn Cobbo 4. Herbie Farnworth 5. Xavier Coates 6. Anthony Milford 7. Albert Kelly 8. Thomas Flegler 9. Jake Turpin 10. Payne Haas 11. Alex Glenn 12. Jordan Riki 13. Kobe Hetherington 14. Danny Levi 15. Rhys Kennedy 16. Ethan Bullemor 17. TC Robati 18. David Mead 19. Brendan Piakura 20. Cory Paix 21. Brodie CroftMelbourne Storm vs Parramatta Eels, 7.35pm at Suncorp StadiumStorm: 1. Ryan Papenhuyzen 2. Dean Ieremia 3. Reimis Smith 4. Justin Olam 5. Josh Addo-Carr 6. Cameron Munster 7. Jahrome Hughes 8. Jesse Bromwich 9. Brandon Smith 10. Christian Welch 11. Felise Kaufusi 12. Kenneath Bromwich 13. Chris Lewis 14. Harry Grant 15. Aaron Pene 16. Tom Eisenhuth 17. Nicholas Hynes 18. Tui Kamikamica 19. Isaac Lumelume 20. Tepai Moeroa 21. Marion SeveEels: 1. Clinton Gutherson 2. Haze Dunster 3. Viliami Penisini 4. Waqa Blake 5. Blake Ferguson 6. Dylan Brown 7. Mitchell Moses 8. Isaiah Papali'i 9. Joey Lussick 10. Junior Paulo 11. Shaun Lane 12. Marata Niukore 13. Nathan Brown 14. Ray Stone 15. Bryce Cartwright 16. Makahesi Makatoa 17. Keegan Hipgrave 18. Will Smith 19. Oregon Kaufusi 20. Sean Russell 21. Jakob Arthur
Ryan Papenhuyzen (Getty)SUNDAYManly Sea Eagles vs Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, 1.50pm at Moreton Daily StadiumSea Eagles: 1. Tom Trbojevic 2. Jason Saab 3. Brad Parker 4. Morgan Harper 5. Reuben Garrick 6. Kieran Foran 7. Daly Cherry-Evans 8. Toafofoa Sipley 9. Lachlan Croker 10. Martin Taupau 11. Haumole Olakau'atu 12. Josh Schuster 13. Jake Trbojevic 14. Dylan Walker 15. Karl Lawton 16. Curtis Sironen 17. Josh Aloiai 18. Moses Suli 19. Cade Cust 20. Jack Gosiewski 21. Kurt De LuisBulldogs: 1. Nick Meaney 2. Corey Allan 3. Will Hopoate 4. Aaron Schoupp 5. Jayden Okunbor 6. Lachlan Lewis 7. Kyle Flanagan 8. Ava Seumanufagai 9. Bailey Biondi-Odo 10. Jack Hetherington 11. Matt Doorey 12. Joe Stimson 13. Josh Jackson 14. Brandon Wakeham 15. Ofahiki Ogden 16. Chris Patolo 17. Sione Katoa 19. Falakiko Manu 20. Jackson Topine 21. Jake Averillo 22. Watson HeletaPenrith Panthers vs Wests Tigers, 4.05pm at Moreton Daily StadiumPanthers: 1. Dylan Edwards 2. Stephen Crichton 3. Paul Momirovski 4. Matt Burton 5. Brian To'o 6. Jarome Luai 7. Nathan Cleary 8. Moses Leota 9. Apisai Koroisau 10. James Fisher-Harris 11. Viliame Kikau 12. Kurt Capewell 13. Isaah Yeo 14. Mitch Kenny 15. Scott Sorensen 16. Tevita Pangai Junior 17. Liam Martin 18. Izack Tago 19. Taylan May 20. Tyrone May 21. Charlie StainesTigers: 1. Moses Mbye 2. David Nofoaluma 3. Tommy Talau 4. Michael Chee-Kam 5. Ken Maumalo 6. Jock Madden 7. Luke Brooks 8. Thomas Mikaele 9. Jacob Liddle 10. Stefano Utoikamanu 11. Shawn Blore 12. Luciano Leilua 13. Alex Twal 14. Joe Ofahengaue 15. Jake Simpkin 16. Tom Amone 17. Alex Seyfarth 18. James Roberts 19. Billy Walters 20. Tukimihia Simpkins 21. Zac Cini
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A dream come true! The Prince's Heart is getting a Voice Over
When we started The Prince's Heart, we never thought we'd find so many wonderful persons willing to collaborate on our project. Here we are now, a month later, with an entire crew of professional and aspiring Voice Actors willing to help us realize our Visual Novel!
Special thanks to our amazing Casting Director, Jacob Wilson, who directed the whole Voice Over process.
Let's meet the entire cast (in order of appearance in the game)!
Nick Chang as Edward (Protagonist)
I was born in Manhattan, but raised in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania, where I currently reside. I also proudly identify as a 2nd generation Asian American (half Hong Kong via my mother, half Taiwanese via my father) and a member of the LGBTQIA+ community (gay and demisexual). Since childhood, I have had a distinct love of music and performance. Having played violin from 4th to 12th grade and sung for even longer, I used music as a primary means to express myself growing up. As I progressed from high school to college, I discovered online voice acting, but it was not until my time in graduate school that I formally decided to become an actor. My interest initially stemmed from a desire to help out in localization projects, but over the time I have spent voice acting, I have come to not only develop a great appreciation of the craft of acting, but also further deepen my love of music and rekindle my love of performance. With my singing experience as a basis to my unique perspectives, I hope to bring sensitivity, curiosity, and innovation to every project I work on!
Jacob Wilson as Adam
I’m a voice actor, Casting and voice director based in Dallas Texas. I’ve been working in this field for almost four years Now. It’s a journey that has taken me literally around the world and I’m so thankful for all I’m able to do and have accomplished. Being a part of amazing projects like this one are what fuel me to pursue my passions. I realized I was bisexual when I was 18. It’s a group in the LGBT+ community that continues to get flak from seemingly all over. But my faith in it and myself has always been unshaken. Outside of VO I am a drag artist in the making under the name “Twilight Stunning”, who I’m going to show more properly in the coming months! I’m so thankful I’m in the position I am, and I can’t wait to see what we have in store for y’all!
Bradley Gareth as Michael (Main Character)
Bradley was raised in Western Pennsylvania, learning piano from age 5 and taking up local community theater at age 10. He pursued the performing arts throughout high school, consistently participating in high school musicals and chorus festivals during his tenure there. At the end of high school, he also took multiple classes in musical composition and began doing online voiceover work.
During his time in college, Bradley participated in numerous professional and amateur voiceover productions both online and at the University of Pittsburgh's student radio station, WPTS Radio. While at WPTS, Bradley also began writing advertisements and online content for websites.
Now out of school, Bradley continues to lend his voice to multiple productions, dabble in musical composition, and provide content writing for WrightlySo.com.
Jared Prize as David (Main Character)
Singing provides me with some of the greatest joy in life. Outside of that, I love voice acting, hiking, and hanging with friends. My day job involves working with computers, so I like to find a bit of an escape into the creative-realm during my free time. My sexuality has always been a struggle, but I find comfort in not putting a label on it (at least for now). Mostly, I am very excited to be a part of an ambition team of lovely people. Working within a project like this brings excitement during the process, and even more-so while waiting for the final piece! I hope you enjoy what's to come xo
Marisa Duran as Lady Marie
Hey there, I’m Marisa Duran. I’m an actress working and living in Dallas, Texas.
I caught the "theatre bug" at a young age. My parents will tell you that it started when I was two years-old, dancing around to the Barney theme song. I agree wholeheartedly.
I grew up in a suburb on the east side of Dallas and was fortunate to have the opportunity to explore a city known for its rich culture and artistic influence. My passion for theatre was fueled by the many musicals that toured through town and I quickly decided that I wanted to spend the rest of my life as a professional actor.
In 2016 I graduated Magna Cum Laude from Texas Christian University in Fort Worth, Texas with my Bachelor of Fine Arts in Theatre, emphasis in Acting. Since then, I’ve had the privilege of working with multiple professional theatre companies in the DFW area. I’ve also expanded my career into the worlds of film and voiceover, landing roles in short films, webseries, and commercials, and lending my voice to over a dozen anime titles at FUNimation.
Art has the power to heal, to change, and to empower. As an artist, I believe that my purpose on this earth is to tell stories, and through these stories I hope to make a positive impact and leave people better than I found them. I consider it an honor to be able to use my talents in such a profound way.
Whenever I’m not rehearsing or recording, you can usually find me at my day-time marketing job, playing video-games, or drinking coffee at a local coffeeshop.
Kiba Walker as Zachariah
Born Arthur Lee Walker III in Tacoma, Washington, Kiba Walker is an American actor, musician, director, writer, and performer based out of Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas.
Kiba trained under the likes of various industry professionals such as Shane Sparks, Donyelle Jones, Tony Oliver, Betty "Waters" Kennedy, Chuck Huber, Sonny Strait, Chris Rager, Justine Reyes, Lorette Spicer, Bill Quinby, Angie Irons, Dan Lorge, Holly Clark Lorge, Spencer Christian, and many others. With 16 years of collective industry knowledge, Kiba has performed with the likes of Alice Underground, The Stereo Killers, Frankly Fictitious, CRVSH, Grant Davis, Ashley Ann Farley, Steve "Warky" Nunez, BASH!, Ryland Lynch, Ross Lynch, Will Jay, and more.
Voice over came to Kiba in his later years, around the age of 18, when he found his love doing an ask blog for Tumblr. From there, he took the craft seriously and networked profusely with various actors and companies in the voice over realm. His first roles were as Boku Temagawa in "Love Games" and Mike Connelly in "Zoolaplex".
Since 2014, he's been cast in various other projects including MY HERO ACADEMIA, HORIMIYA, GENSHIN IMPACT, FRUITS BASKET, ONE PIECE, SAINT SEIYA (2019 Sentai Dub), BLACK CLOVER, BOFURI! I DON'T WANNA GET HURT SO I'LL MAX OUT MY DEFENSE, CAUTIOUS HERO: THE HERO IS OVERPOWERED BUT OVERLY CAUTIOUS, CASE FILE NO.221 KABUKICHO, CAMP BUDDY, FULL SERVICE, TO TRUST AN INCUBUS, TO LOVE RU, O MAIDENS IN YOUR SAVAGE SEASON, EARTHLOCK, POPUP DUNGEON, SOMETHING IN THE DARK, RADIANT, and many more!
He's also directed such titles as FULL SERVICE, IDUEL: BATTLE FOR STARDOM, ISHIDA & ASAKURA, THE TITAN'S BRIDE, and CAMP BUDDY.
As a musician now, Kiba currently has one album out, titled "XO", that released in May 2016. He runs a music channel called "KibaKovers", adapting anime and video game openings into English for a broader audience, as well as regular Top 40 covers. He is also one of the champions of the hit Fort Worth Drag Competition, The 3, as Salem Moon!
Mike Young as Sir Tiphis
Hello, I’m Mike Young. A dynamic, versatile and different British VP voice actor with gravitas, who can turn on various shades of Bristol, and run the spectrum of silky smooth, to warm and friendly.
Under the brilliant tutelage of Tanya Rich, my road to a professional voice acting career begin in 2018, having produced a wide variety of stories and audiobooks.
I lend my talent to a range of different projects:
Hard sell and soft sell commercial and corporate scripts
IVR for telephone systems and mobile apps
Instructional e-learning courses
Promotional adverts and trailers
Public service announcements
Character narration for video games, film, audio dramas and books
…and more!
I love it all, I do it all! And if you like what you hear, contact me! I’ll be sure to make your project gurt lush.
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2020 Eisner Award Nominees
Best Short Story
“Hot Comb,” by Ebony Flowers, in Hot Comb (Drawn & Quarterly)
“How to Draw a Horse,” by Emma Hunsinger, The New Yorker, https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/how-to-draw-a-horse
“The Menopause,” by Mira Jacob, The Believer, https://believermag.com/the-menopause/
“You’re Not Going to Believe What I’m About to Tell You,” by Matthew Inman, The Oatmeal, https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
“Who Gets Called an ‘Unfit’ Mother?” by Miriam Libicki, The Nib, https://thenib.com/who-gets-called-an-unfit-mother/
Best Single Issue/One-Shot
Coin-Op No. 8: Infatuation, by Peter and Maria Hoey (Coin-Op Books)
The Freak, by Matt Lesniewski (AdHouse)
Minotäar, by Lissa Treiman (Shortbox)
Our Favorite Thing Is My Favorite Thing Is Monsters, by Emil Ferris (Fantagraphics)
Sobek, by James Stokoe (Shortbox)
Best Continuing Series
Bitter Root, by David Walker, Chuck Brown, and Sanford Greene (Image)
Criminal, by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (Image)
Crowded, by Christopher Sebela, Ro Stein, and Ted Brandt (Image)
Daredevil, by Chip Zdarsky and Marco Checchetto (Marvel)
The Dreaming, by Simon Spurrier, Bilquis Evely et al. (DC)
Immortal Hulk, by Al Ewing, Joe Bennett, and Ruy José et al. (Marvel)
Best Limited Series
Ascender, by Jeff Lemire and Dustin Nguyen (Image)
Ghost Tree, by Bobby Curnow and Simon Gane (IDW)
Little Bird by Darcy Van Poelgeest and Ian Bertram (Image)
Naomi by Brian Michael Bendis, David Walker, and Jamal Campbell (DC)
Sentient, by Jeff Lemire and Gabriel Walta (TKO)
Best New Series
Doctor Doom, by Christopher Cantwell and Salvador Larocca (Marvel)
Invisible Kingdom, by G. Willow Wilson and Christian Ward (Berger Books/Dark Horse)
Once & Future, by Kieron Gillen and Dan Mora (BOOM! Studios)
Something Is Killing the Children, by James Tynion IV and Werther Dell’Edera (BOOM! Studios)
Undiscovered Country, by Scott Snyder, Charles Soule, Giuseppe Camuncoli, and Daniele Orlandini (Image)
Best Publication for Kids
Akissi: More Tales of Mischief, by Marguerite Abouet and Mathieu Sapin (Flying Eye/Nobrow)
Dog Man: For Whom the Ball Rolls, by Dav Pilkey (Scholastic Graphix)
Guts, by Raina Telgemeier (Scholastic Graphix)
New Kid, by Jerry Craft (Quill Tree/HarperCollins)
This Was Our Pact, by Ryan Andrews (First Second/Macmillan)
The Wolf in Underpants, by Wilfrid Lupano, Mayana Itoïz, and Paul Cauuet (Graphic Universe/Lerner Publishing Group)
Best Publication for Teens
Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass, by Mariko Tamaki and Steve Pugh (DC)
Hot Comb, by Ebony Flowers (Drawn & Quarterly)
Kiss Number 8, by Colleen AF Venable and Ellen T. Crenshaw (First Second/Macmillan)
Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me, by Mariko Tamaki and Rosemary Valero-O'Connell (First Second/Macmillan)
Penny Nichols, by MK Reed, Greg Means, and Matt Wiegle (Top Shelf)
Best Humor Publication
Anatomy of Authors, by Dave Kellett (SheldonComics.com)
Death Wins a Goldfish, by Brian Rea (Chronicle Books)
Minotäar, by Lissa Treiman (Shortbox)
Sobek, by James Stokoe (Shortbox)
The Way of the Househusband, vol. 1, by Kousuke Oono, translation by Sheldon Drzka (VIZ Media)
Wondermark: Friends You Can Ride On, by David Malki (Wondermark)
Best Anthology
ABC of Typography, by David Rault, translation by Edward Gauvin (SelfMade Hero)
Baltic Comics Anthology š! #34-37, edited by David Schilter, Sanita Muižniece et al. (kuš!)
Drawing Power: Women’s Stories of Sexual Violence, Harassment, and Survival, edited by Diane Noomin (Abrams)
Kramer’s Ergot #10, edited by Sammy Harkham (Fantagraphics)
The Nib #2–4, edited by Matt Bors (Nib)
Best Reality-Based Work
Good Talk: A Memoir in Conversations, by Mira Jacob (One World/Random House)
Grass, by Keum Suk Gendry-Kim, translation by Janet Hong (Drawn & Quarterly)
Kid Gloves: Nine Months of Careful Chaos, by Lucy Knisley (First Second/Macmillan)
Moonbound: Apollo 11 and the Dream of Spaceflight, by Jonathan Fetter-Vorm (Hill & Wang)
My Solo Exchange Diary, vol. 2 (sequel to My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness), by Nagata Kabi, translation by Jocelyne Allen (Seven Seas)
They Called Us Enemy, by George Takei, Justin Eisinger, Steven Scott, and Harmony Becker (Top Shelf)
Best Graphic Album—New
Are You Listening? by Tillie Walden (First Second/Macmillan)
Bezimena, by Nina Bunjevac (Fantagraphics)
BTTM FDRS, by Ezra Claytan Daniels and Ben Passmore (Fantagraphics)
Life on the Moon, by Robert Grossman (Yoe Books/IDW)
New World, by David Jesus Vignolli (Archaia/BOOM!)
Reincarnation Stories, by Kim Deitch (Fantagraphics)
Best Graphic Album—Reprint
Bad Weekend by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (Image)
Clyde Fans, by Seth (Drawn & Quarterly)
Cover, vol. 1, by Brian Michael Bendis and David Mack (DC/Jinxworld)
Glenn Ganges: The River at Night, by Kevin Huizenga (Drawn & Quarterly)
LaGuardia, by Nnedi Okorafor and Tana Ford (Berger Books/Dark Horse)
Rusty Brown, by Chris Ware (Pantheon)
Best Adaptation from Another Medium
Giraffes on Horseback Salad: Salvador Dali, the Marx Brothers, and the Strangest Movie Never Made, by Josh Frank, Tim Hedecker, and Manuela Pertega (Quirk Books)
The Giver, by Lois Lowry, adapted by P. Craig Russell, (HMH Books for Young Readers)
The Handmaid’s Tale: The Graphic Novel, by Margaret Atwood, adapted by Renee Nault (Nan A. Talese)
HP Lovecraft’s At the Mountains of Madness, vols. 1–2, adapted by Gou Tanabe, translation by Zack Davisson (Dark Horse Manga)
The Seventh Voyage, by Stanislaw Lem, adapted by Jon J Muth, translation by Michael Kandel (Scholastic Graphix)
Snow, Glass, Apples, by Neil Gaiman and Colleen Doran (Dark Horse Books)
Best U.S. Edition of International Material
Diabolical Summer, by Thierry Smolderen and Alexandre Clerisse, translation by Edward Gauvin (IDW)
Gramercy Park, by Timothée de Fombelle and Christian Cailleaux, translation by Edward Gauvin (EuroComics/IDW)
The House, by Paco Roca, translation by Andrea Rosenberg (Fantagraphics)
Maggy Garrisson, by Lewis Trondheim and Stéphane Oiry, translation by Emma Wilson (SelfMadeHero)
Stay, by Lewis Trondheim and Hubert Chevillard, translation by Mike Kennedy (Magnetic Press)
Wrath of Fantômas, by Olivier Bocquet and Julie Rocheleau, translation by Edward Gauvin (Titan)
Best U.S. Edition of International Material—Asia
BEASTARS, by Paru Itagaki, translation by Tomo Kimura (VIZ Media)
Cats of the Louvre, by Taiyo Matsumoto, translation by Michael Arias (VIZ Media)
Grass, by Keum Suk Gendry-Kim, translation by Janet Hong (Drawn & Quarterly)
Magic Knight Rayearth 25th Anniversary Edition, by CLAMP, translation by Melissa Tanaka (Kodansha)
The Poe Clan, by Moto Hagio, translation by Rachel Thorn (Fantagraphics)
Witch Hat Atelier, by Kamome Shirahama, translation by Stephen Kohler (Kodansha)
Best Archival Collection/Project—Strips
Cham: The Best Comic Strips and Graphic Novelettes, 1839–1862, by David Kunzle (University Press of Mississippi)
Ed Leffingwell’s Little Joe, by Harold Gray, edited by Peter Maresca and Sammy Harkham (Sunday Press Books)
The George Herriman Library: Krazy & Ignatz 1916–1918, edited by R.J. Casey (Fantagraphics)
Krazy Kat: The Complete Color Sundays, by George Herriman, edited by Alexander Braun (TASCHEN)
Madness in Crowds: The Teeming Mind of Harrison Cady, by Violet and Denis Kitchen (Beehive Books)
Pogo, Vol. 6: Clean as a Weasel, by Walt Kelly, edited by Mark Evanier and Eric Reynolds (Fantagraphics)
Best Archival Collection/Project—Comic Books
Alay-Oop, by William Gropper (New York Review Comics)
The Complete Crepax, vol. 5: American Stories, edited by Kristy Valenti (Fantagraphics)
Jack Kirby’s Dingbat Love, edited by John Morrow (TwoMorrows)
Moonshadow: The Definitive Edition, by J. M. DeMatteis, Jon J Muth, George Pratt, Kent Williams, and others (Dark Horse Books)
Stan Sakai’s Usagi Yojimbo: The Complete Grasscutter Artist Select, by Stan Sakai, edited by Scott Dunbier (IDW)
That Miyoko Asagaya Feeling, by Shinichi Abe, translation by Ryan Holmberg, edited by Mitsuhiro Asakawa (Black Hook Press)
Best Writer
Bobby Curnow, Ghost Tree (IDW)
MK Reed and Greg Means, Penny Nichols (Top Shelf)
Mariko Tamaki, Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass (DC); Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me (First Second/Macmillan); Archie (Archie)
Lewis Trondheim, Stay (Magnetic Press); Maggy Garrisson (SelfMadeHero)
G. Willow Wilson, Invisible Kingdom (Berger Books/Dark Horse); Ms. Marvel (Marvel)
Chip Zdarsky, White Trees (Image); Daredevil, Spider-Man: Life Story (Marvel); Afterlift (comiXology Originals)
Best Writer/Artist
Nina Bunjevac, Bezimena (Fantagraphics)
Mira Jacob, Good Talk (Random House); “The Menopause” in The Believer (June 1, 2019)
Keum Suk Gendry-Kim, Grass (Drawn & Quarterly)
James Stokoe, Sobek (Shortbox)
Raina Telgemeier, Guts (Scholastic Graphix)
Tillie Walden, Are You Listening? (First Second/Macmillan)
Best Penciller/Inker or Penciller/Inker Team
Ian Bertram, Little Bird (Image)
Colleen Doran, Snow, Glass, Apples (Dark Horse)
Bilquis Evely, The Dreaming (DC)
Simon Gane, Ghost Tree (IDW)
Steve Pugh, Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass (DC)
Rosemary Valero-O'Connell, Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me (First Second/Macmillan)
Best Painter/Digital Artist
Didier Cassegrain, Black Water Lilies (Europe Comics)
Alexandre Clarisse, Diabolical Summer (IDW)
David Mack, Cover (DC)
Léa Mazé, Elma, A Bear’s Life, vol. 1: The Great Journey (Europe Comics)
Julie Rocheleau, Wrath of Fantômas (Titan)
Christian Ward, Invisible Kingdom (Berger Books/Dark Horse)
Best Cover Artist
Jen Bartel, Blackbird (Image Comics)
Francesco Francavilla, Archie, Archie 1955, Archie Vs. Predator II, Cosmo (Archie)
David Mack, American Gods, Fight Club 3 (Dark Horse); Cover (DC)
Emma Rios, Pretty Deadly (Image)
Julian Totino Tedesco, Daredevil (Marvel)
Christian Ward, Machine Gun Wizards (Dark Horse), Invisible Kingdom (Berger Books/Dark Horse)
Best Coloring
Lorena Alvarez, Hicotea (Nobrow)
Jean-Francois Beaulieu, Middlewest, Outpost Zero (Image)
Matt Hollingsworth, Batman: Curse of the White Knight, Batman White Knight Presents Von Freeze (DC); Little Bird, November (Image)
Molly Mendoza, Skip (Nobrow)
Dave Stewart, Black Hammer, B.P.R.D.: The Devil You Know, Hellboy and the BPRD (Dark Horse); Gideon Falls (Image); Silver Surfer Black, Spider-Man (Marvel)
Best Lettering
Deron Bennett, Batgirl, Green Arrow, Justice League, Martian Manhunter (DC); Canto (IDW); Assassin Nation, Excellence (Skybound/Image); To Drink and To Eat, vol. 1 (Lion Forge); Resonant (Vault)
Jim Campbell, Black Badge, Coda (BOOM Studios); Giant Days, Lumberjanes: The Shape of Friendship (BOOM Box!); Rocko’s Modern Afterlife (KaBOOM!); At the End of Your Tether (Lion Forge); Blade Runner 2019 (Titan); Mall, The Plot, Wasted Space (Vault)
Clayton Cowles, Aquaman, Batman, Batman and the Outsiders, Heroes in Crisis, Superman: Up in the Sky, Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen (DC); Bitter Root, Pretty Deadly, Moonstruck, Redlands, The Wicked + The Divine (Image); Reaver (Skybound/Image); Daredevil, Ghost-Spider, Silver Surfer Black, Superior Spider-Man, Venom (Marvel)
Emilie Plateau, Colored: The Unsung Life of Claudette Colvin (Europe Comics)
Stan Sakai, Usagi Yojimbo (IDW)
Tillie Walden, Are You Listening? (First Second/Macmillan)
Best Comics-Related Periodical/Journalism
Comic Riffs blog, by Michael Cavna with David Betancourt, www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/comics/
The Comics Journal, edited by Gary Groth, RJ Casey, and Kristy Valenti (Fantagraphics)
Hogan’s Alley, edited by Tom Heintjes (Hogan’s Alley)
Inks: The Journal of the Comics Studies Society, edited by Qiana Whitted (Ohio State University Press)
LAAB Magazine, vol. 4: This Was Your Life, edited by Ronald Wimberly and Josh O’Neill (Beehive Books)
Women Write About Comics, edited by Nola Pfau and Wendy Browne, www.WomenWriteAboutComics.com
Best Comics-Related Book
The Art of Nothing: 25 Years of Mutts and the Art of Patrick McDonnell (Abrams)
The Book of Weirdo, by Jon B. Cooke (Last Gasp)
Grunt: The Art and Unpublished Comics of James Stokoe (Dark Horse)
Logo a Gogo: Branding Pop Culture, by Rian Hughes (Korero Press)
Making Comics, by Lynda Barry (Drawn & Quarterly)
Screwball! The Cartoonists Who Made the Funnies Funny, by Paul Tumey (Library of American Comics/IDW)
Best Academic/Scholarly Work
The Art of Pere Joan: Space, Landscape, and Comics Form, by Benjamin Fraser (University of Texas Press)
The Comics of Rutu Modan: War, Love, and Secrets, by Kevin Haworth (University Press of Mississippi)
EC Comics: Race, Shock, and Social Protest, by Qiana Whitted (Rutgers University Press)
The Peanuts Papers: Writers and Cartoonists on Charlie Brown, Snoopy & the Gang, and the Meaning of Life, edited by Andrew Blauner (Library of America)
Producing Mass Entertainment: The Serial Life of the Yellow Kid, by Christina Meyer (Ohio State University Press)
Women’s Manga in Asia and Beyond: Uniting Different Cultures and Identities, edited by Fusami Ogi et al. (Palgrave Macmillan)
Best Publication Design
Grunt: The Art and Unpublished Comics of James Stokoe, designed by Ethan Kimberling (Dark Horse)
Krazy Kat: The Complete Color Sundays, by George Herriman, designed by Anna-Tina Kessler (TASCHEN)
Logo a Gogo, designed by Rian Hughes (Korero Press)
Madness in Crowds: The Teeming Mind of Harrison Cady, designed by Paul Kopple and Alex Bruce (Beehive Books)
Making Comics, designed by Lynda Barry (Drawn & Quarterly)
Rusty Brown, designed by Chris Ware (Pantheon)
Best Digital Comic
Afterlift, by Chip Zdarsky and Jason Loo (comiXology Originals)
Black Water Lilies, by Michel Bussi, adapted by Frédéric Duval and Didier Cassegrain, translated by Edward Gauvin (Europe Comics)
Colored: The Unsung Life of Claudette Colvin, by Tania de Montaigne, adapted by Emilie Plateau, translated by Montana Kane (Europe Comics)
Elma, A Bear’s Life, vol. 1: The Great Journey, by Ingrid Chabbert and Léa Mazé, translated by Jenny Aufiery (Europe Comics)
Mare Internum, by Der-shing Helmer (comiXology; gumroad.com/l/MIPDF)
Tales from Behind the Window, by Edanur Kuntman, translated by Cem Ulgen (Europe Comics)
Best Webcomic
Cabramatta, by Matt Huynh, http://believermag.com/cabramatta/
Chuckwagon at the End of the World, by Erik Lundy, https://hollowlegcomics.tumblr.com/chuckwagon
The Eyes, by Javi de Castro, https://www.javidecastro.com/theeyes
Fried Rice Comic, by Erica Eng, https://friedricecomic.tumblr.com
reMIND, by Jason Brubaker, https://is.gd/T7rafM
Third Shift Society, by Meredith Moriarty, https://www.webtoons.com/en/supernatural/third-shift-society/list?title_no=1703
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Read this lesbian retelling of romance between Guinevere and Lancelot. It’s ok. Wish I could have liked it more, but due to some personal preferences I found it a bit underwhelming.
I like Arthurian legends and chivalric romances, and I like the story of Guinevere and Lancelot. Yes, I’m very much aware most people think it’s a story done to death and Lancelot is considered a boring Mary Sue. I make no attempt to hide the fact that the 2011 Takarazuka musical about the subject is like 98% of the reason I like the story.
I can’t read about Lasse and not picture Makaze Suzuho in a silvery leather overalls armor.
The story is being told in first perspective, from Lasse’s point of view (now my nickname for Lancelot is truly fitting, because in this story she is a lass, heh heh). This is just a personal preference, but I don’t like this style. I prefer to see the story objectively, now Lasse passes her own judgment and opinion on everything and I can’t help but feel that it’s limiting. Also, damn does Lasse self monologue in a weird, cryptic manner. I know Arthurian myths aren’t known as stories grounded in reality and I know poetic language is to be expected. But sometimes Lasse’s thought process is hard to follow and she just says plain weird things. I get flashbacks to Rose of Versailles and Andre spewing out some nonsense about his love becoming a fossil encased in amber.
I do wonder if the writer is into Wicca or paganism, because there’s some pretty heavy anti-christian pro-paganism messages in the book. Lasse holds great respect for the old religion and one of the reasons she doesn’t like Arthur is because he is a Christian king. Which, for storytelling purposes, is understandable. The way Christianity wiped out the pagan religions of Europe by swordpoint (convert or have your head cut off) is a tragedy that isn’t often talked about (because there are other, more violent examples of forcibly spreading Christianity that tend to get the spotlight more). Of course Lasse, who was raised by Lady of Lake, a creature of old myths, would resent having this new religion replace all the ancient wisdoms she’d been taught and seeing the new faith shamelessly slap their holidays over the pagan festivals.
The clash of these religions is an interesting part of world building. But Lasse’s view of the old religion as something sacred and flawless and perfect is naive and childish. It’s like reading the thoughts of someone who was brainwashed by a cult at a young age and so is incapable of finding faults in the doctrine or criticizing anything related to the practices. Pagan religions could (and often would) be used as a tool of power and be rooted in the same harmful ideas as Christianity. For a woman, it makes no difference if the one commanding her to “know her natural place” was a patriarchal male God or a sacred pagan Goddess, her freedom to choose for herself is still being taken away by a religion who wishes to control her.
Lasse is secretly being raised as a boy, Rose of Versailles style. This means that once she is maturing, she must go through “an initiation ritual” meant for boys. This ritual? A fucking date rape. They make her drink some sort of drug or love potion and then provide a woman for her to sleep with so she can “become a man.” Once Lasse sobers up, she feels awful about what happened. And yet, even in this moment, realizing that she was drugged and made to have sex she didn’t want, she will not question the old religion. She will not criticize this disgusting practice, believing that though unpleasant, it must have been necessary for her to become adult. Yeah no, I’m sorry, but whenever religions start including sex in their rituals and pressure people into participating, a siren starts wailing in my head CUUUUUUUULLLLTTT! IT’S A FUCKING SEX CULT! GET THE MINORS OUT NOW!
I was happy, that the drugged rape doesn’t get described in detail. Sex is never described in detail in this book. In a way, I can see a scene where Lasse gets drugged to have sex could be a nod to the begetting of Galahad (which obviously won’t be happening in this version of the story). But still, I would have greatly appreciated if there hadn’t been a rape scene at all. The only kind of sex scenes I want in my books are the Sober and Enthusiastic Consent ones.
I once saw someone make a post that Lancelot and Gawain are the Arthurian version of Team Edward/Team Jacob. I must say, there’s a seed of truth in here. When you have a story where Gawain is the best knight and main character, Lasse tends to be painted as a selfish adulterous asshole who ruins everything, and when you have a story where Lasse is the leading role and painted as super virtuous, Gawain tends to gear up his negative traits. It’s like you can’t have both of them be likable at the same time. In this book, Gawain (and a whole bunch of other knights) get the asshole makeover treatment. Well, Gawain and Lasse do end up becoming friends but Gawain doesn’t stop being a jerkface and doesn’t really deserve Lasse’s friendship (If someone called my mother a whore, I would simply not forgive and befriend them. Rip to Lasse, but I actually care about my mother more than I do about some entitled dudebro.). I find this kind of writing a little lazy, making other characters pointlessly rude just so the main character looks better in comparison.
Ok, I’ve talked about the parts I didn’t like. Here’s some things I liked.
The book is illustrated. The art isn’t particularly fancy, but I liked it. I wish more books had illustrations, not just the books for kids.
The relationship between Lasse and Guinevere begins in their childhood, before Gwen is married to Arthur. I prefer love stories that give the characters a long period of time to develop their feelings for each other (as opposed to stories of them falling in love overnight Romeo&Juliet style). Also, it reminded me of the zuka musical.
Another thing I liked is that the relationship between Gwen and Lasse isn’t adulterous. They are very much in love with each other, but they won’t have sex. I would have forgiven them if they did, since Gwen didn’t have any say in her marriage and so it turned out a loveless political marriage. It’s a whole different thing to romanticize cheating and to understand that women in forced marriages had no other choice but to seek love of someone who loved her as a person, not as a moneybag. But Lasse and Gwen are virtuous, so they are above such thinking. When she married Arthur, Gwen made a promise to be faithful to him, and despite not loving him, she will not break this promise. Well, not until Arthur divorces her in favor of the False Guinevere.
Which brings me to the thing I probably liked the most - Gwen has an evil twin. And no, this isn’t the writer slapping some modern trope over a classic tale, this is a genuine legend. There are stories where Guinevere has a sister who seeks to replace her. Seeing a lesser known legend get adapted brought a smile to my face. We can tell a story of Gwen and Lasse without using the same old stories of Grail quest and abduction of Guinevere. It was fascinating.
Once the False Guinevere has convinced Arthur that she is the real queen, Gwen is cast out (well, after Lasse has to fight for her honour to save her from death penalty). Lasse and Gwen travel to Galehaut’s place (a friend of Lasse’s) and there, freed from her promise, Gwen finally has sex with Lasse. And only now, very close to the end of the book, is it revealed that Lasse is actually a woman. Saving this plot twist to so near the end feels a bit unnecessary, because I’m pretty sure 9 out of 10 people who buy this book already know about it and, much like me, bought the book exactly because of it. I can’t really imagine there being very many who managed to get to the end and actually be surprised.
The book kinda has a happy ending, but that’s partly because it ends before shit hits the fan re: Mordred. Mordred is in the book, but he’s only discussed about, never seen. There’s plenty of hints and foreshadowing that Arthur’s reign will come to a violent end some day. But the book leaves that to our imagination.
This is a decent book. If you’re into women and chivalric romance, go for it. But if you prefer a love story with more overtly sensual take on the intimate scenes, you might be happier with some other book, this one is very chaste. Also, you have to be willing to only see the story from Lasse’s perspective, and you have to be ok with Gawain being a prick. But all in all, it’s not a bad read.
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