#this is not even like as an akechi stan this is as a stan of writing that makes sense

[justanothershippingcan]

Out of everything, my favorite "We didn't mean to make 'em gay" Atlus moment with Shuake and P5R is how not engaging in any of the romantic routes, overall, doesn't affect the gameplay at all. You even get the best White Day bit with Soujiro + Ryuji choco, as a treat.

But not liking Akechi enough by either not completing his confidant or not choosing the right options means you don't get the complete True Ending. The game itself punishes you for not letting Akiren go to their pecualiar Akeshu-brand dates, or for not making him admit how much he cares about their proposal promise.

I hate them.

[sunriseinorbit]

my favorite male persona 5 character is akechi and my favorite female persona 5 character is makoto which has doomed me to suffering more than jesus

[raven]

the persona designs in persona 5 are so absolutely dogshit like looking at them next to the ones from other games makes me wish i was dead. theyre so busy and not even in a good way... absolutely swagless... especially when the rest of the rest of the game does have a lot of swag. like im a severe persona 5 apologist** but i hate all of the main party personas a lot

[volt-reblogs-n-rambles]

I did it. The blorbos.

Thoughts below the cut.

Ok so if you clicked read more WELCOME this is a LOT of thoughts coming at you so like:

•Rankings are approximate, and not commentary on anything in terms of actual character analysis. I am not comparing the crimes, actual or social, of these characters in a serious way

•Samus was originally in the center and then I was like "no. No she's more creature than that."

•also shout-out to Sablegear0 for the fic line around the lines of "nice humans not say they nice" and that's what I was thinking about.

•Some of the Bastard rankings are for crimes and some are vibes. Some are both!

•For example, Stan has an immense criminal record! MB tried to kill all humans.

•Meanwhile, Bill Cipher is a Bastard AND a criminal! I hate him he's great.

•Goro Akechi is a mess that needs like. A good friend and therapy and some self-discovery. He also committed crimes but I think he'd do better outside of jail.

•That Appletun is George, he's my apple son, I love him, I hold him gently, that IS my art from like 2020 don't worry about the horns it's a long story

•I know Shy Guys are villains but. No they aren't.

•Good news, I would trust like all of the men here with my drink? With a few OBVIOUS EXCEPTIONS.

Ok actually that needs an elaboration. Obvious exceptions are the two in The Pit and Ridley Metroid because I don't. No I don't trust them.

As for the rest, trust reasons: two are below the age of 16, Ren supports women's rights AND wrongs don't at me, Akechi I don't think I would ever approach because Oh No He Needs Therapy but for background and general vibes reasons I think he would fight someone trying to do anything. Zagreus gives me similar vibes to Ren even though Greek Mythology but like just I don't I don't think.

Ford is a great uncle and would also fight someone. Same with Stan, and I went back and forth on this but landed on the great uncle point but also he would just steal the drink. And that's funny.

•Adam Malkovich exists but he's a computer he can't hold anything. But he's also just Man. That's it. None of the other qualities. That's a guy.

•wait I forgot Link. Same boat as Ren but like if Link doesn't give me ace vibes. Yes I'm projecting. I can project on a lot of these guys!

[akechi-stole-my-heart]

With one of the most impactful sections of the game with Akechi (in my opinion) being his very emotionally fuelled breakdown during his boss fight, you would think more people would realize just how much of his reasoning for what he does is based on his emotions and not logic

akdbudhehf yeag

It's as if people just block out the engine room scene entirely, tbh. All the most popular misinterpretations of his character are blatantly contradicted by that scene. It's absolutely wild to me when it's incredibly obvious to me that that scene is Akechi at his most genuine/least filtered in the game and therefore the most important one if you want to understand him as a character. But it is so often completely ignored.

Arguments like "Akechi hates Joker" or "Akechi doesn't regret anything." Or "The Phantom Thieves hate Akechi and don't sympathize with him," even. I've even seen people (Akechi stans! in multiple fics!!) interpret Akechi as not giving a shit about popularity or what the masses think of him. Hello??? Guys!! Goro "I was extremely particular about my life, my grades, my public image, so someone would want me around" and "you'll all be heroes. as for me, people will find out my past deductions were just charade. my fame and trust will vanish" Akechi very very much does give a shit what people think about him. That is. actually. kind of his entire thing. (Yeah, after the public turns against him he gets jaded, but he never doesn't care. Having the public turn on him, I would argue, was actually a kind of personal hell for him, because he cares so much.) Anyway. I already wrote that meta.

But yeah, people love ignoring the engine room scene. Maybe they just forget a lot of it because a ton does happen? Or they just aren't insane about Akechi like me and haven't practically memorized bits of it. (Hey, I'm working on it. It'll get completely memorized eventually...) Akechi haters are gonna misinterpret him, that's not surprising. But it is absolutely wild to me when Akechi stans ignore the most important scene with him and understand who he is and why he did the things he did.

I've even been told that the engine room isn't Akechi at his most genuine and actually is him at his most extreme and shouldn't be taken at face value. Which is just......what??? Yeah, he's having a mental breakdown, but as a result all of his masks come off and he says shit that is real and genuine and that wouldn't have come out at any other time. The extreme emotions of the situation are what make it so genuine. That interpretation is so baffling to me, but maybe it's more common than I think, and that's why Akechi stans ignore it, I dunno.

But yeah, anyway, if you wanna know what Akechi actually believes about something, look at the engine room. It's the Rosetta Stone to Akechi's character and the scene through which you should interpret everything else. I don't know why everyone loves ignoring it so much.

[theketcherrrr]

U know what we're talking on the ketcher tonight. One of the main reasons i hate the "akechi was a test subject" thing is bc its always saying like, wakaba did bad stuff too. Which is fine. and even if it leads futaba to have an arc about having doubt about her mother: thats fine. I host the complicated women podcast, like id stan wakaba all the more for it, but just the Vibe I Get. And it may not be intentional but the Vibe I Get is that "since wakaba abused akechi, futaba should forgive him for killing her." And thats just so wrong to me. I dont think I've really liked anyones take on futaba forgiving akechi, but this one is kind of evil. They genuinely have enough going on that you can write. like is it not enough that akechis mom killed herself, something he likely holds a lot of guilt over, and then he turned around and did the exact same thing to futaba? like, thats beautiful. thats poetic. thats the smartest thing persona has ever done. you dont need to make wakaba a bad person or akechi somehow MORE traumatized

[p5x-theories]

Sorry (not) to be shuake stan here, but. So, the bosses in the crossover events right? They are variants of the original bosses.

I know there will he prolly a fake shido battle. But

What if there is an Akechi's too. Like. Joker just lost Akechi and he has to see a fake version of him that dosent even have a human face.

Im kinda going insane atm sorry

Heh, as someone who isn't personally a fan of that ship or romantic shipping in general, I do feel obligated to point out that he could have intense emotions about facing someone he just lost even if they weren't in a romantic relationship!

That aside, assuming we do have a Shido chapter, I'd be a little surprised if they had a fake Akechi fight, mainly because the Palace rulers are significant to the existence of the Palace in a way that the other boss fights within Palaces aren't? They haven't preserved any bosses in the collabs besides the rulers, up to this point. Futaba being able to hack in a ballista again strongly implies the fake Palaces are still tied to the ruler's cognition in some way, though it was explained rather vaguely.

Of course, Akechi's sort of an unprecedented situation (fighting an actual Persona user)! So who really knows for sure. It's possible it could be a fake cognitive Akechi instead of a fake real Akechi, as well? He was actually present in the Palace even before Akechi entered it, after all. Even then, though, I'm not sure I'd expect him to be tied to a klesha/poison the way that the Palace rulers are? So he might still just look like Akechi.

On that note, though, it's worth noting again that the timeline is kind of weird here! If the cruise ship is paired with the casino, then the Phantom Thieves wouldn't have gotten to the Akechi fight yet (most likely; they generally seem to have started exploration, but not secured the infiltration route yet, for whatever Palace they're currently exploring. Akechi dies when they secure the infiltration route). If they somehow pair the cruise ship with the Depths of Mementos, Akechi would be dead, but this might be odd. And if they pair the cruise ship with Maruki's Palace, as theorized before, then Akechi would be "alive" again! So we have a bit of a Schrodinger's Crow in regards to the end of the collab, at the moment, hehe.

[no-psi-nan]

Real Answer:

I've cried about this before on here multiple times but this is my favorite line, and the one that made me an indefatigable Akechi stan:

Yeah I'll have feelings about this again, why not.

"I can still be your playmate" literally recontextualized the way I think about love hsfjdlshfks. Like. Play is such an essential part of living. Not just for humans, pretty much every animal we've ever studied turns out to engage in play when given the opportunity (feels safe, not hungry/thirsty).

And playing with others is especially important in social species! Notice how core playing is to human society: all games obviously, but also sports, gambling, a huge chunk of media dedicated to various games or using games as a base for a story, etc.

Anyways, Kusuo just hasn't gotten the opportunity to play, really play, since he was a small child. Even if those early games with Kusuke counted, they no longer did once Kusuke installed the limiters. After that, every game was tinted with the danger of basically losing his life should he lose, essentially destroying any fun that Kusuo could have gotten from it. Not at any point does Kusuo wish he could play a game with his brother again – it's something he would rather avoid at all costs.

And we can see that Kusuo does not really know how to play on his own either. When left to his own devices, he only reads/watches/plays shitty/obscure media, watches live TV, or stares at the ceiling. His powers prohibit him from doing a lot of things, and if he's up to anything else, it's usually training to improve his control (like when he threw a baseball back and forth a billion times to get better at it).

So when Akechi comes up with a game for Kusuo to play, it's actually groundbreaking. Especially because Akechi purposely does not place any limits on Kusuo in order to do it! That's HUGE!

Kusuke ALWAYS tries to limit Kusuo when they play, handicapping Kusuo in London with a GPS tracker and 2 friends to limit his power use, and using Toritsuka as a hostage during the Cat Tank arc (and there's no way Kusuke didn't shoot at Toritsuka directly multiple times to make Kusuo take the hit). The only time Kusuke doesn't handicap Kusuo is for the fireworks "birthday surprise", but that was explicitly because he was testing the limits of Kusuo's powers to adjust the Cat Tank.

On the other hand, Akechi doesn't put any limits on what Kusuo could do to play, and in fact, watches him obviously using his powers (specifically clairvoyance and distance telepathy). To him, Kusuo using his powers is not cheating, because Kusuo's powers are as much a part of him as his hands or eyes.

The wording of Akechi's comment in the first panel, "I guess [...] I'm still better than you when it comes to betting on horse races", and then "It seems there may still be plenty of things we can go head to head in", shows that Akechi didn't actually know whether he would be able to provide Kusuo with a challenge. And that he's happy he can! Because it means that he and Kusuo can play together!

And tbh, Akechi himself probably has trouble finding people who can keep up with him in games. He mentions in the same chapter that he doesn't have any friends and isn't even sure what social people do for fun, rip.

So anyways, it just really hit me that the ability to be playmates is so important for a deep personal relationship. Like if you can't feel safe enough to relax and be silly and vulnerable, and try new and different things together, how good is that relationship really, y'know??

Yeah. That line gets me every time lol.

Stupid Answer:

Love that he's trying so hard to take the conversation away from anything that could mess up the manga rating but as soon as someone makes an incorrect statement about dick, he immediately has to correct them with penis ethnography. We stan this pan king lmao.

My special interest is cock and brother, I'm about to start info-dumping.

[deinococcvs-radiodvrans]

Looking for RP partner

Hello! I’m Blue, I’m over the age of 21. I’ve been roleplying since highschool, so it’s been a while. If you are interested in roleplaying any of the following fandoms, please dm me:

-Durarara!! (These are the characters I rp as: Izaya Orihara, Shinra Kishitani, Anri Sonohara, Masaomi Kida)

-Hetalia (These are the characters I rp as: Italia, Japan, UK, France)

-South Park (These are the characters I rp as: Craig, Kyle, Stan, Kenny, Mike, Michael, Larry, Trent) 

-Persona 3,4,5 (These are the characters I rp as: from P3: Fuuka, Mitsuru,  Kotone Shiomi, Makoto Yuki. P4: Teddie, Yu Narukami, Naoto, Chie, Rise. P5: Ren Amamiya, Akechi, Futaba, Kasumi/Sumire, Maruki, P5S: Sophia, PQ: Rei PQ2: Hikari, Nagi)

-Danganronpa (These are the characters I rp as: THH: Makoto, Celestia, Chihiro. Goodbye despair: Mikan, Chiaki, Mahiru. V3: Kokichi, Shuichi, Maki, Himiko.)

There’s also other fandoms and also OCs, but these are the ones that come to my mind. 

Things to take in consideration:

My first language isn��t English. So if you see mistakes (grammar wise) please let me know so the replies are better.

My replies will vary on my mood, they can be long or they can be short, I’m still a student because college (so I won’t reply constantly, but I will do my best to be as fast as I can and I hope you can do the same). 

If you don’t like the plot or any of the storylines we get to do (that is if you decide to rp with me) please let me know, so we can change the plot or even start a new one!

I mostly rp on discord.

[x1e3ju]

sigh. another shuake rant that literally makes no sense god be with me pls…

title speaks for itself. not in the best mood rn but i feel like transness was in the air today and even if it gloomy as heck, the air is more pretty.. hmmm sounds like transfeminism to me.

i always and i mean always fall for the transgirl characters even transgirl irl i love transness sm i love femininity, not feminine identifying myself but MY GOD feminine presentation is beautiful, all kinds. and yes, i have to make everything about shuake. i feel like one reason i really like them so much is cuz of my own projections onto them, its uhm.. a lot that goes into all that but in the general, i based akechi on someone i heavily care about and met last year (which when once talking to them told me about how they would think about transitioning like mtf when they grew older) and with that, was born my akechi transfemme headcanon. didnt realize it at the time, didnt realize many things but i also ended up learning apparently i have a thing for transfemme characters and just feminine presenting characters in general! like to list some characters i have hyperfixated on in the past esp in the art category goes from maya fey to saki tenma to akechi in that order and when it comes to some of favorite characters i wasnt able to draw more often due to a bunch of other stuff were characters like phoenix wright and mizuki akiyama and further in both lists is a bunch more. and its true i only listed two characters i really like headcanon as transfemme there but i see phoenix more of a feminine guy, still being cis but liking more pink girly “gay” shit lol and obviously the struggles that come with that. i see saki and maya as more femme girls liking pink and struggling with their femininity in a way that goes with sexuality and what it feels to be the femme one in a relationship or a feminine presenting woman which brings me into my bigger topic.

mi nina bella arquita (arca the singer lol) posted on her story a tumblr post about transfeminity and how difficult the experience is for trans women and mind you im not a trans woman myself but just knowing the experience of being a woman or being born female more like it like i cant imagine what that must be like to somebody who is new to that concept, even if it’s scientifically not very different, i can’t imagine learning that so late in life or whenever u learn it to someone treated as a complete outsider if that makes any sense. and again like i stated early and in no little more to my adhd i always think about akechi, its just a necessity atp. but he was somebody who never got the chance to even think about things like that, like i know what that experience feels like, as a trans person myself and mind you my upbringing was very different than his aside being born female and all, i had the time and the support even if very little and not the best to be honest to think on all those things but he didn’t he had nobody else. that even brings me to akira. i dont headcanon akira as transfemme at all i see him as transmasc very heavily to the point i treat it as canon but anywho, its the same sorta contrast. akechi is so closed off to the idea of his transfeminity, even i feel he would already know he’s gay and interact probably with others online who are, very distantly but yea lol i think he would be a stan twitter reveluv but to the idea of being trans and not just trans but transfemme, is a completely different story for him.

while on the other hand, i feel like akira would be so open to the idea. yea maybe he wouldn’t be outwardly telling everyone “HEY IM TRANS!!” yk lmao but thats not really pride, thats not really what it looks like contray to popular belief and also dont even get me started with the fear of the people around you, the first most prominent point. its a whole other fear a whole other level of boundaries that people cross just to know if you have boobs and a pussy or not, from personal experience its disgusting disturbing and just plain out insane. but i feel like with the right people that he trusts its something its more comfortable to share, even sharing with it sojiro despite his age and the fact that most adults don’t care to respect to understand transness. i feel like akechi would be so terrified to even think about it, the fear of even asking someone he knows is trans (little stalker lmao) because it forces him to think. and it makes others question yk you don’t really ask someone “hey what does it feel like to be trans” for a friend lol.

i also think about shuake as a whole too the fact that i think akechi would grow that level of comfortability to even ask at some point, probably right before he’d die but the effort was put you know? the question was asked, the barriers were broken and i think their love is so beautiful because even with anything and everything, akira would still be there for him. not just because akira loves him which to be honest, probably has a much bigger sentiment but in a way, that just sorta feels like an obligation right? akira wants to be there for akechi because he knows what that feels like even if, no he really doesn’t because being a trans woman and being a trans man are very different experiences it all ties back to the same string. men and women really aren’t that different, we’re all human and the literal same species. we all have brains and can think for ourselves and oh does the list go on. the experience is obviously very different societally, which can not be ignored with our current society but again, he wants to be there for him because hey, you’re a transgender person like me too. the support and comfort i never had. pushing that extra level of questioning and testing and support and validation and whatever it may be because yes being a transwomam not have been the same experience akira went through but he is still trans and in that simple word lies some kind of a connection and the type of support he was never given. he had to learn it himself and he’s just passing it onto akechi. like again again, yes he loves him but he knows what he needs and like ugh. that is just so beautiful i love solidarity

its so many things that make their relationship for me that i feel i will never find again. something so beautiful in the complex, no little thanks to my multiple personality disorders as if one wasn’t enough. something so beautiful in the support and love you can offer somebody and i wish wish wish wishh transphobia wasn’t such a PLAGUE in everything! like ugh naoto, the storyline you deserved… honestly fuck atlus with all my heart tbh♥

[235uranium]

actually I'm gonna be self indulgent here. I think it would be really good if the p5r arena equivalent we've been waiting for since fucking 2017 is the akechi game and focuses on tying together the modern persona trilogy with the first two games.

p5(r) was incredibly successful and even people who aren't diehard persona fans are interested in a proper sequel to the game. diehard fans have been begging for arena bc we VERY MUCH want to see the shadow ops interact with the thieves. and a high percentage of diehard fans are also akechi stans and we want proper akechi backstory + survival confirmation fuck you

if team persona finally has permission to bring in p1+p2 lore and characters from the og writers, then p5r arena would be a pretty good opportunity. that was what ultimax did with p3 and p4. and ofc everyone also wants the p3 + p4 teams to properly meet the thieves

using akechi would be smart not just bc a significant portion of fans want him back, but bc:

it would be virtually impossible to bring him back without a significant portion of the plot being dedicated to him. he's the deurtagonist and tends to steal the spotlight in every scene if he's there.

cognitive psience has to be related to previous persona research and there seemed to be one major funder. who then used that research to train a metaverse assassin. which is akechi.

like- it would be pretty stupid to make a true p5r sequel and not address cog psi directly. it comes up constantly, yet there's no explanation as to why the fuck shido got involved. ig you can hand wave and say it was yaldy, since shido certainly... sees himself as chosen by god.

but we still don't know what wakaba was doing. why the fuck was shido so dead set on her research specifically. what does he mean that he "taught" akechi how to use his powers. and featherman seeker certainly... suggests that akechi was used as a test subject at some point.

I really do think this is all a pretty damn good way to bring in p1 + p2 + p3. the connection is pretty easy to make.

p4 doesn't come in as directly, but I think it's reasonable to have naoto trying to figure out what was actually going on with the mental shutdowns (since I doubt shido or joker implicated akechi by name). or just working with the shadow ops, since I maintain the shadow ops stepping in and managing akechi's ""probation"" would be a good entry point

[yusuke-of-valla]

Your recent poll just made me think of how I've seen certain toxic stans try to claim that 'OH IF AKECHI WAS A GIRL THEN EVERYONE WOULD SEE HER AND JOKER'S STORY AS A LOVE STORY!'

Like ignoring the inevitable discourse that come from a fem!Akechi being a morally complicated female character. No, it would be treated like any other ship in a fandom where some people will love it because they love the dynamic and some people will hate because they don't like the dynamic and don't need the characters to be a certain sexuality to like a ship.

Yeah. I specified Joker as fem in that poll because I was trying to get a gauge on how much people felt Akechi's popularity was tied to the ship and m/f ships aren't as popular as m/m ships in my experience (though. That might be because I'm usually here), and Akechi being Female added wayyyy too many variables (because as i said i was trying to figure out why people who like Akechi get way more mad at other characters doing stuff that isn't as bad)

But you're right that it would be a love story *if it was a love story.* Like even if it was a romance option it would ALWAYS be optional. If you want to argue that you'd have also have to argue that ShuMako is a love story

Basically yeah. Like as much as I will joke about a ship i like being canon whne they're two feet away from each other, i don't. Actually think they're canon or the only way to ship something

If Atlus was gonna intentionally write a love story that'd be a different game you know?

...not sure any of that made sense

[epitomees]

Dedicated didn't even come close to the varying degree of diligence and downright loyalty some of her 'fans' have shown in the past. More obsessive, and troublesome in most instances. Who would have thought someone out there found it pleasurable to slap her face on a bathroom towel, or replicated her newsboy hat for that matter.

Some even appeared to her with shirts, plastered with various emoji hearts and her name printed in a cutest text. They called themselves 'Shirogane Stans.'

SS.

How unimaginative....

"Your name has been circulating in great numbers as well, Akechi-san." How many times did she have to hear another squealing fangirl fawn over one of his selfies? Or comment about another café he visited? Teenage girls were...another breed of admirers. She never messed with the likes of them. "Is there...anything in particular you would like me to sign for you?"

Just this once. It was rather harmless considering he's one of the more civil enthusiasts.

Her advice was beginning to feel more and more pointed, but he expected as much. His predecessor never cared much for the spotlight, nor did she try to appear jovial in public. He did wonder, for a brief second, if she somehow knew about other things hidden in darkened corners, but he brushed that aside. She was intelligent, but not a superhuman.

“I’ll keep that in mind.” 

But still.

“...May I receive an autograph? I’m sure it’s relatively harmless compared to the... other things I’ve seen. You have quite a dedicated following!”

[nebulaleaf]

heehee hoo hoo procrastinating things so i rant here

[takirasu]

whenever i read people's lists on how Persona 5 could have been improved and I come across Redemption arc for akechi, I log out of tumblr, close the app and call it a day

[discountdyke]

*wakes up* and what was even the narrative purpose of killing off akechi? I can only assume it was an extremely half assed attempt at redemption - reveal sad backstory and then sacrifice life thus indebting the team to him - but like. it would have been SO much more meaningful to have him join the team, esp since u have a full scene of nearly every member begging him to join them, and atone that way. it could have been SUCH an interesting take on the justice system and what it really means to atone and not earn forgiveness, exactly, but to grow in spite of the horrible things you've done. dying in what was quite frankly not even a life threatening situation is not only pointless for the story as a whole but it also like... is not redeeming in any sense? he literally did not have to do any of that. it just feels like the writers didn't know what to do with him at that point so they were like fuck it just kill him off.