#this is just loki mobius vibes tbh

[zingaplanet]

Absolutely hilarious to me that Tom Hiddleston, realising Owen Wilson knew zit nada bout the MCU, gave him a full community college crash course on the entire universe's storyline complete with flashcards, powerpoints, videos, and visual effects.

Then when he started to lose Owen to afternoon naps, literally started crashing into his hotel room for revision time, bringing the 'Loki notes' he made him do, and basically denying him sleep for weeks??

[royalnugget42]

Ok tbh I love Loki and Mobius, and their relationship has more chemistry than Loki and Sylvia do (tbh I don’t think Sylvie likes him that way anyway, it gives me unrequited love vibes in canon) but that being said, Sylki is FINE

It’s not great, it’s not as good as Lokius imo, but it’s FINE.

“Ohh but it’s self-cest that’s so gross 🤢” THIS from the self-cest webbed site?? This from the onceler website??? You can admit to yourself that you’d be fine with the self-cest if it was two male lokis it’s ok you can be free.

If you’re mad abt it bc it’s “heterosexual” then just say that! It’s fine! Just feel like a few of these people are lying to themselves is all

[mobius-m-mobius]

Fave shows tag game

Rules: List 5 favourite shows (in no particular order) and answer questions accordingly.

Life on Mars

Good Omens

Mad Dogs

Loki

Psych

@loki-is-my-kink-awakening Thank you so much for the tag lovely!! Putting my answers to the questions behind the cut 😊

1. Who is your favourite character in 2?

Oh no not this😅 Don't wanna start off totally indecisive but In all honesty Aziraphale and Crowley are such a package deal I've never been able to decide who I liked more so both it is!

2. Who is your least favourite character in 1?

Probably Frank Morgan since he's meant to give everyone the creeps and totally untrustworthy but if we're talking main cast then Ray because everyone else is just too good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3. What's your favourite episode of 4?

Episode two THE beloved my one and only 🥺💖 12/10 would gladly watch Owen and Tom sit around chatting and mirroring the cafeteria vibes either as Lokius or themselves for the rest of my days

4. What is your favourite season of 5?

Gotta be S2!! All the earlier seasons are gold so was very tempted by the latter half of S3 but S2's like a tour de force

5. What's your favourite relationship in 3?

Baxter and Quinn would an obvious one since John and Phil are married in every role and this is no exception but the dynamic between Baxter and Rick is so weirdly fascinating?? They just clash so instantly, usually to great disaster but will never stop themselves or learn from their mistakes, absolutely obsessed tbh

6. Who is your anti relationship in 2?

I don't really have one?? If pressed I wasn't interested in Anathema and Newt being shoved together for no real reason or the implication of ending up with someone because you're told but I don't have any active dislike for them or their pairing

7. How long have you watched 1?

Well I was pretty late to pick the show up and watched for the first time around three years ago, have since rewatched the entire series at least 5 times in full, and various clips more times than I could ever count lol

8. How did you become interested in 3?

Thank my url namesake, lol. Truly the most stunning TV experience start to finish I've had with a flawless all star cast and just criminally underrated show in general!!

9. Who is your favourite actor in 4?

🤣🤣 Feel as if I've walked right into this one and y'all don't even need to hear the answer but that would be Owen Wilson, whose take on Mobius has honestly been life changing for me 💖

10. Which show do you prefer 1, 2 or 5?

Oh man as much as I adore Psych I'm stuck between Life on Mars and Good Omens on this one... Oh this is the worst, okay, I'm going... Life on Mars! When taking the point of how much I love both main pairs out of the picture there are more elements of and characters in LoM I think I enjoy more

11. Which show have you seen more episodes of 1 or 3?

I've watched both fully through multiple times but Life on Mars just edges by with having more episodes so that'll be the one!

12. If you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?

Loki or Ravonna just for sheer proximity of how much time would be spent around Mobius lmao, literally my only primary consideration

13. How would you kill off your favourite character in 5?

Laughing so hard at this because ironically my favorite character in Psych has pondered many scenarios potentially resulting in his own death lmao. If necessary he'd probably prefer a blaze of glory gunfight but I don't think he'd mind being taken out by his favorite land mine going off?? "Sweet music. And then…nothin' but red mist." 😂

14. Would a 3/4 crossover work?

Not necessarily unless you mean would it work in terms of turning me on in ways I've yet to experience in this life because yes, yes, and YES 😳😳

15. Pair two characters in 1 that would make an unlikely, but strangely okay couple.

Idk if it would be the most unlikely but Sam and Chris would've been cute and I always enjoyed how earnestly Chris ended up admiring Sam's approach to the work and who he is as a person

16. Overall, which show has the better cast, 3 or 5?

I mean Mad Dogs is my favorite show of all time in part because of how talented the cast is in balancing their roles and I can't see that changing plus I'd follow those guys anywhere

Tagging @faylights, @too-funky, @safedistancefrombeingsmart, @symphony-in-silver, @colourfulwatson, @bebx, @linz33y, @michaelsheens, @veraynes-blog, @aleerax, @abitofboth, @eyeldritch, @lovingvincent, @seekers-who-are-lovers, @z-aliada, and @alternatively-undesignated as always only if y'all feel like it plus anyone else who wants to join! 💕

[our-blood-is-our-ink]

@spider-starry you can't just leave that in the tags

[hansoeii]

Did you see this? We're getting closer to an actual answer about what this mess is.

Ohh, interesting! I kinda vibe with the "exploration of self-love" statement tbh, it plays into the idea that both Sylvie and Loki are just completely lost and confused about whatever the hell they're feeling since neither of them have ever experienced friendship and trust (Loki with Mobius, but it's recent and new to him too). I wish they would just properly try to talk about it, you know? Like a romantic relationship absolutely wouldn't work since first off: they're the same person, but also they're too different personality wise from each other as we've seen. Loki wants so little while Sylvie wants so much. But they absolutely do care about each other, a platonic relationship between the two would be absolutely iconic, they're amazing together!

I'm glad to see that Sophia is sorta aware of how the Sylvie and Loki thing is perceived, I really like her.

[madam-o]

At this point I'm more in the corner of those who want no romantic pairings for Loki (in S1 anyway) than I was before ep 4. Shipping always ruins everything. Personally I'm not buying either of the battling ships here. The Sylvie/Loki thing definitely feels like a misdirect now (plus Sylvie already has her "Post Man"). And I just never got romantic vibes between Loki and Mobius. Tbh I would laugh if everyone's canon ship hopes were dashed because shipping takes up entirely too much fandom time and energy.

All of this is reminding me of Star Vs. The Forces of Evil all over again. Here you have this awesome show with all this cool and weird stuff going on in it but all anybody talks about is Starco vs. TomStar vs. Tomco etc, etc.

[moonlarking]

My thoughts after the first episode of Loki - SPOILERS

The FIRST thing he did upon being approached by a small group of Mongolian people in the middle of fucking nowhere was scramble onto a rock like it was a podium and announce himself. The first thing he did was elevate himself above them like a dramatic bitch and I love him for it

To elaborate on that on a more serious note, I think it gave him some feeling of being in control and not surrounded. Even when it’s just a tiny group of midgardians he feels weak

Was it foreshadowing for when he later admits that everything he does is an illusion crafted because he views himself as weak and needs to be perceived as strong?

Called “variant that keeps killing TVA agents is actually Loki” from the very beginning, just a flex (although we probably all did)

My personal theory is that the evil variant Loki is the current variant loki later in the show

Idk Mobius is giving me serious “turns out to be evil” vibes, maybe it’s just Loki’s “you thought you could manipulate me?” Line from the trailer

Owen Wilson is GOLD. GOLD. The conversation about arson with Loki KILLED ME

Also. The comedy in this show? Hilarious. Predictable but hilarious. The ticket scene? Trying to use his powers? Totally saw it coming but it was awesome nonetheless

“This is Asgardian leather!” *it immediately gets incinerated* GOLD

Props to that arm thing on the monitor from keeping EVERYTHING from being shown 👀

The monitor’s smile just made my day. The monitor in general got like 5 seconds of screen time but that whole scene gave me Thor’s “do not cut my hair” scene vibes. Someone should do gifs comparing those scenes honestly

LOKI WAS DB COOPER BECAUSE HE LOST A BET TO THOR???? I EXPECT ELABORATION AND AT THE VERY LEAST A SHORT FILM MARVEL

I saw a post on here a long time ago that stuck with me and it said that in the dark world Loki thinks his directing the dark elves into the palace killed his mom and therefore he was directly responsible for his mother’s death, and this show really ran with that.

Poor loki is really out here having an existential crisis. Tbh I almost had one right along with him before going “wait wait wait I’m Christian”

He has an existential crisis and then sees the infinity stones and you CAN SEE THE COGS TURNING IN HIS BRAIN and then he goes “is this the highest power?” Like babe we all know what you’re thinking you’re planning on taking this place over aren’t you

On that note, did anyone catch Mobius’s quip about Loki only cooperating when he’s seducing someone he plans on killing and taking over for later??? GRANDMASTER AND LOKI CONFIRMATION???

Jesus my dude really speedruns the five stages of grief I really hope we get to see that grief and trauma and all the character development they erased in endgame later in this series, because it felt like they were rushing through it so that they can have ragnarok Loki’s character doing 2012 Loki’s show

I really really really hope they confirm that Thanos/Thanos’s lackeys had tortured Loki, or at least that the mind stone was influencing him. That theory is one of my personal favorites and it makes so many more things in the original Avengers movie - and things that Loki says himself - make sense, and make all that media, and especially his death, hurt so much more

If we go with that theory, can we just stop and think about how painful it must have been for Loki to watch himself die at the hands of Thanos? To realize that not only was the destruction of half of Asgard’s people, including himself, his own fault because he took the tesseract with him, but that his final act of defiance was meaningless and that his death came at the hands of the person that had caused him so much pain and misery, had made him do such horrible things?

On a lighter note, “you can smell the cologne of two tony starks” BAHAHAHA I mean it’s so in character for tony and I love how it tipped Loki off

Back to the darker note, at the beginning he assumes that the avengers are time traveling to stop him, but I bet that after watching Thanos kill him, he realizes why they were really after the Tesseract, and that it really had nothing to do with him and they had outgrown him as a threat and a villain

Can I just stress how much I LOVED Loki’s little rant about the TVA being weak and trying to instill fear to gain control, and then not half an hour later admitting that he was projecting and that’s really what he’s been doing all along

“I don’t enjoy it. Hurting people.” This is the content every Loki stan has been waiting for since the OG Thor

Honestly seeing as how Tom, the OG Loki stan, was an executive producer, I’m not too worried about this show

I might add on later but these were just my (unasked for, unneeded) thoughts on episode 1

[iamanartichoke]

Tbh maybe this is a weird thing to fixate on but I'm really bothered by the fact that it sounds like Loki says "who actually believes this crap" at one point? Like...in what world is the word crap in Asgardian vocab, esp Loki's, ESP 2012 Loki's??? It was just so kind of...idk, ooc in a way that I don't think is even open to interpretation? Like it's just straight up something Loki would never say, on such a basic level that goes beyond Loki just speaking more casually or smtg...idk it just concerns me about the rest of the series and the writer's understanding of Loki. And btw I for sure don't like the vibe of The Scene either, but I do get the feeling the TVA is going to be framed as bad or at least creepy in some way (I could very well be wrong though)

^^ I hadn’t noticed that bc I couldn’t really hear what he’d said, but I did notice some other people point that out as well, and I agree with you. Tonally it’s just very off. Loki was still speaking Shakesgardian in Avengers and this is supposed to be that Loki, picking up directly after those events, so why is he suddenly speaking like a regular old person? I also agree that it’s not really up for interpretation - it’s tonal whiplash from what we got in Avengers. I mean, unless once the mind-control (or influence) broke, Loki suddenly remembered picking up some Earth slang from, like, Gamora or Nebula or someone. (I don’t know.) 

And yeah, my honest prediction is that the TVA will be framed as the antagonist to Loki, but Mobius is going to be the defector - turning against the TVA in order to help Loki (or at least help Loki not get erased from existence). But yeah, The Scene is just - yeah. Smh. 

Ty for the ask and it’s good to see you, btw! <3 <3 <3 I hope it’s okay that I answer this publicly. 

[nostalgia-tblr]

I get so annoyed at the comparisons of Lokius to fluffy ship Ineffable Husbands (Good Omens) because they have nothing in common. And there really should be more fic exploring the abusive dynamics of Lokius. And ok, I admit I don't like cutesy ships like Ineffable Husbands much either way, but it's such a shame Lokius has so little tasty fucked up content and most fics are boring fluff. And people like OW so much they hardly ever make Mobius the perpetrator. I've seen fics were Ravonna made them do it or another Loki (usu. President) or EVEN TVA!Loki were the perpetrators and those options just rub me the wrong way. Lokius fandom is so quick to make Ravonna irredeemable (but not pure bean Mobius) and the power imbalance is not on the favor of the Lokis (the abuse and literal torture excused from Mobius while Sylvie gets called abusive for calling Loki a clown and trying to complete her life's mission... smdh).

The main issue, I think, is that "the Discourse" is so fraught and neverending that people either hate Mobius and everything connected to him and so they won't write about him anyway or they're on the defensive and don't want to cede what they see as too much ground to hostile takes. (They're not the only ones doing this but this is today's topic and I don't want to digress as much as I usually do.) That plus - the bane of my own existence in so many fandoms tbh - if you're into something enough to identify/be seen as "a shipper" of it then you probably favour fluffier takes on that ship. Which is valid of course, etc etc, but it means there's not many fic people around who are willing to spend the necessary time and effort on Dark Lokius. I mean, I'm fairly into the idea and I still haven't (really) made any fic of it so I am Part Of The Problem myself (I do have a couple of in-theory-WIPs but I have a lot of half-written fics and they won't all get finished). With me that's partly because I fear the reader glancing at the rest of my fic in that fandom and going "oh well OF COURSE she doesn't like lokius and wants it to be Wrong and Fucked Up," even though I fuck up a lot of pairings that I am very into.

Of course with me not being into fluff generally the dominance of that genre here means I read less lokius than I otherwise would and so the problem sort of self-perpetuates.

(Side-note on Ravonna, the comics canon (such as it has been relayed to me) seems to have massively influenced fandom's takes on her because I don't think she was even all that evil on the show? You could take her "brb off to find Free Will" as her having rejected the system and planning to bring it down some other way - which indeed I did until I was told no she's just a baddy. As Mobius's superior she's presumably more awful but what we see doesn't necessarily prove that. (Also there's only 22 - 22!!! - Mobius/Ravonna fics on AO3 and I have to ask HOW THE FUCK?? because I definitely detected a vibe there and refuse to accept that nobody else did. They had a vibe!!!))

BUT I DID DIGRESS LIKE I SAID I WOULDN'T. Added to all that is that the sylki and lokius shippers have become set against each other so again nobody wants to give anyone any extra ammunition for "actually your ship sucks" takes on tumblr by spending "too much" time on the nastier subtexts.

Um... well, the tl;dr is just that varying strands of The Discourse tend to push people away from spending much or any time on the darker lokius readings and that's a damn shame because as of this moment the pairing is tagged in 3,426 fics on AO3 and I feel like that means it could easily cope with a few more stories where it's to some degree fucked up. Bring on the Stockholm Syndrome, damn it, there's more than enough fluff to make it all better with afterwards :D

[cheshire-salvatore-mikaelson]

Loki spoilers ahead for my friends who haven’t seen it yet. (DON’T READ IF YOU HAVEN’T WATCHED)

Ok, Loki fandom, I’m seeing a lot of things that are pissing me off. I’ve been seeing them for a while but it’s really annoying so I’m gonna put this here for anyone who might agree with me. If you don’t, then when can have an adult conversation about it, but if your gonna send hate to me, please don’t comment.

NOW FOR MY OPINIONS!

1) The finale was amazing!!!!!!!!

Yes it was predictable, but it was also validating to know that all the clues in the last few episodes weren’t letdowns (like X-Men Pietro in WandaVision). Not to mention Marvel kept this secret so well that I’m shocked it wasn’t leaked. 

I was so happy when I saw Kang there, and we got a bit of his backstory from one of his variants for the new Ant-Man movie. Not to mention we now know how the multiverse got created and it’s very possible either Loki or Sylvie will show up in multiverse of madness.

ALSO this show was written with the IDEA that a season 2 was HAPPENING. (Sorry for the people who knew this, but I’m seeing some posts that makes me think some of us have forgotten this important fact.) I didn’t think the whole story would be wrapped up in a bow like WandaVision or TFATWS. This was gonna tee up a season two like any normal TV series does.

2) Loki kissing Sylvie is not the end of the world for the love of god.

I am Bisexual. Putting this for context concerning the next paragraph.

Loki is Bi meaning he likes men and woman, so it’s not horrible that he kissed Sylvie. Is it strange/cringe to watch Loki kissing a version of himself? A bit, but a) they’re not related nor share the same DNA according to the MCU so stop saying it’s like incest, b) they ARE COMPLETELY different people with different life experiences, and c) it’s not the end of the world; it’s just one of those canon things that you wished never happened like Steve leaving Bucky, at the end of Endgame, for Peggy after Steve went to her funeral, in Civil War. (Or, for Whovians, the whole Timeless-child story arc in Season 12)

Then I saw a post saying it ruined Loki’s character. It didn’t ruin shit! Loki’s character development is still in tack. HELL! HE GAVE UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE KING TO SAVE THE UNIVERSE. AND HE OPENED UP, TRUSTED SOMEONE, AND FELL IN LOVE. It was Sylvie who didn’t trust him. If your gonna be angry at her (as a character the actress is lovely) be angry that she didn’t trust him then fucked up the universe because -ya know- Kang the fucking Conqueror, and not because she kissed him.

I still love his character and I love this show. It’s become my new comfort show.

Not to mention with her kicking him out and us seeing that close shot of him being hurt by this action…I HIGHLY doubt he’s gonna immediately take her back when they cross paths again. Also this was the first step in Marvel’s plan to bring in LGBTQIA+ people from the comics to the big screen; it’s a baby step (for anyone wondering, they made an announcement about this). They’ll get better at it and will eventually represent everyone (or at least that’s my hope).

Plus I don’t know if Mobius is gay or not (in comics or MCU). So there’s that fact too. I get the representation aspect of wanting Loki and Mobius together but maybe that’s just not apart of Mobius’s character. Or maybe Mobius season 2 will have the character development that makes it canon because tbh there’s still a lot about Mobius we don’t know.

P. S. I ship Lokibus but it doesn’t make me hate that it didn’t happen. I knew it probably wasn’t and all of you were getting your hopes up because I didn’t get that vibe off of this pair before I saw everyone on Tumblr shipping them. It’s clearly not where the writers wanna take Mobius’s or Loki’s character this season. However, my feelings with Loki and Sylvie as a couple are complicated because - I’ll admit - I cringed when I watched the kissing scene…but it’s not like Tom Hiddleston is kissing a Tom Hiddleston CGI-ed to look like a woman. That would be weird and concerning. (For more of my thoughts read the beginning of point 2)

And finally…3)

MARVEL!

(And I can’t stress this enough)

PLEASE.

RELEASE.

SEASON 2.

OF.

LOKI.

BEFORE.

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA.

IN.

2023!!!!!!!!

Or at least give me some Loki type content in Multiverse of Madness. Like Dr. Strange finding Sylvie crying in a palace outside of time (with Wanda possibly.)

I can’t go a whole year with no new Loki content again like 2020…I just - I CAN’T! Not after this gem of a show that only made me love Tom Hiddleston’s acting even more and adore Sylvie and Mobius.

Now again I would like to restate that if you don’t agree with me we can have an ADULT conversation about this. But if your gonna send hate BECAUSE you don’t agree with me - don’t comment. These are my opinions and I’m not trying to force anyone to think like me because of it.

*bows*

Thank you for coming to my Ted-Talk.

Enjoy President Loki because he’s a gem! 💎🐊

[minalblood]

Ok this isnt my usual way of doing things cuz... Well, tbh i dont really care enough to actually make a post bout most things, id just rather reblog shit, but I've now seen several posts comparing the Loki finale with spn's and just... Where?

Spn ended as a show with one of the most hopelessness inducing shit I've ever seen, taking a character thats been consistently seen as at the very least depressed and killing him off with a 'that's what his happy ending looks like' plastered on it, another character who's whole ark was reconciling with himself about who he is only to make him essentially cut half of himself out for a kid and also still be unhappy, and a third who's whole thing was learning what free will is and that he too deserves free will only to have him go back to obeying orders in heaven. It was absolutely against everything the show had portrayed for 15 years, including in the actual season this finale was a part of.

Loki is an on going show (s 2 confirmed), but even if it hadn't been, the shows main narrative themes remained true to the end, Loki did in fact grow as a character, the shows ultimate plot is about free will, tackling also the fact that free will means shit will also happen, its not only roses and happiness and Sylvie stuck to her actual goal and achieved it, aka killing whoever was behing the TVA. Loki's goal throughtout the show wasn't killing the Time keepers, it was having the free will to write his own life story and he's done and doing exactly that, sometimes that means shit happens, no characters died needlessly in my opinion and as I've said, in no way did it go against its own themes that it established initially. Not to mention the fact again that it's ongoing!

Finally to touch on what people are really complaining about (the more vocal post I've seen circulating, I've no doubt some people just genuinely didn't like it and thats fine) which is the Sylvie/Loki thing. Ok lets discuss. Firstly, if it's not ur thing that's entirely fine, its not mine either, but to claim it's a problem for u cuz it's, as Ive seen multiole people say, heteronormative is hella problematic to me since it seems to erase the fact that both characters by their own words are bi/pan. That's shitty. Number 2: 'if Sylvie was male presenting they wouldn't have gone there'... Now while I do think Marvel/Disney wouldnt likely have the balls, I still find issue with this statement since it feels very... Sexist to me. I dunno what exactly about it, but it very much reads like y'all would not complain bout the pairing if Sylvie was male presenting more so than a dig at Marvel/Disney and that is not cool with me. And finally, C the selfcest thing as incest stand-in. Ok so I get that selfcest aint for everyone, which again, fair point if u just dont vibe at all, but the actual issues people seem to have is less with it being selfcest and more that its not mlm, which is highly hypocritical. Now to the people who do just dislike it for being basically incest, ur perogative, ur view , but I'd've hoped that the whole multivers aspect of this show could've made it clearer that while they are variants of each other they are not actually the same person. Also also since the spn parallel is what began this, to the spn fans I ask, how tf can y'all not see this, the multuple versions of Sam and Dean alone should have you realize it's someones history, experience, surroundings, accuaintances that mould a person. We don't even know for sure if they share parents! Its a dif universe they've been born in, oddly enough that means they couldn't be more physically different, even if they may share some personality traits or some history between them. Again, i dont ship it, it feels awkward to me based on their interactions, but that doesnt mean imma say some bullshit bout incest just cuz I dont like the idea. Fact is they're not actually related and, as an aside, the would u fuck ur clone talk has been around for ages with little issues about incest because its already covered in the meme as is the pollar opposite.

Ok this was rambly and well, hopefully some of my points have been made clear. To end I just wanna say I do look forward to season 2, I can't wait to see Mobius and Loki reacquaint now that we have a Mobius that doesnt remember/know Loki it'll be a nice juxtapose to their relation this season (yes i ship it, whatever) and also also wanna see what's gonna happen with Kang overall and with Sylvie. She wasn't having a good time there.

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So quick add, I just realised why the comparison fucks with me so much more than other shit and it's cuz it reduces both finales to shipping, thats why it annoys me, it essentially undermines Loki's whole arc and reduces it to shipping and it also undermines just how bad spn ended and why its bad since it also reduces it to a ship. Neither are bad or good because of a ship being canon or not on its own and seeing this comparison makes it seem very much like thats the reason spn ended bad and equally makes Loki ending bad because of course it would if the ship didnt go the way you wanted it. But thats not the way to measure a show like Loki or Spn, or at least def not the only measurement to apply for the end conclusion.

[blackgirlsuperherorants]

Getting nervous about Lokius shippers. I've seen them on here comparing their ship to Destiel 😳 Destiel makes sense in context, over the decade of Supernatural's existence. Lokius is just two male characters just because they're the only two in the series (before we get to the last episode). Again, I don't care if you ship it, but y'all keep begging for it to become canon. Which, technically it is, on some timeline in this vast multiverse. But it does not need to become the primary Loki relationship.

The only reason it's making me nervous that y'all keep doing this is because I've seen fandoms bully nonsense relationships into existence before (Ol*c*ty). I don't want your fan service to get in the way of the storytelling. Like, yeah, Sylki doesn't really work (which is why I think it doesn't work in the series. One kiss does not a soulmate make, and as you have seen in the MCU, they have thrown random characters together for a hot second before and then like... never addressed it again. Steve and Sharon comes to mind.) But Loki's two options in the entire multiverse are not "Mobius or Sylvie".

I just don't want some fan service thing that makes no sense just because a bunch of shippers are loud.

And tbh if shippers who have more leg to stand on don't get their ship, shippers making stuff up because two characters were nice to each other don't get theirs.

Like, if Sambucky isn't going to be real, why the hell would Lokius be real?

Please stop asking for your ships to be canon every time. Just write fanfic.

I mean, ask for some of them to be canon, but logically. Don't just be like "OMG Hawkeye and Quicksilver should be canon!" Like, no? They shouldn't? But it would be fun to read in a fic.

It also feels weird to me that two men had an in depth conversation and y'all percieved it as romantic. Like... how? Mobius was just investigating him. Or is it because they kept calling Loki "Mobius' Loki"? That wasn't romantic, either. They were just saying that he was being too lenient with this variant.

The whole thing is silly. I mean, the same way Marvel is weird for trying to make Sylki romantic just because they had a deep conversation on Lamentis-1, y'all are weird for making Lokius romantic because Mobius keeps asking him questions about how a Loki works.

Also, shipping someone with their captors is always strange. As much as we like Mobius, he's Loki's captor. The power dynamic alone makes it weird. Loki is powerless at the TVA. He has to do whatever Mobius wants or be pruned. How y'all percieved it as romantic is beyond me.

I get that everyone is thirsty for a canon queer relationship, especially after Loki being confirmed queer. But just picking the next closest man who isn't related is just weird. Do you guys date everyone you have deep conversations with? Do you want to bone everyone of every gender you like?

Mobius at best gives caring teacher vibes. At worst, he's a time cop participating in a corrupt system.

Please keep your ship online and don't ask for it to become main timeline canon. Just let them actually make choices. Don't bully them into satisfying you over everyone else.

[countesskittymeow]

And here we are for episode two. Couldn't watch it last night cz my kid woke up xD anywho, first thoughts, Im kinda digging this green and gold marvel logo a lot more than the boring red one xD

Mind control? Evil Loki Variant does mind control. I wonder if this Variant ever faced Thanos. Also! They used the song! Its one of my favourite songs!!! Now i wanna sing along but unfortunately I can't because my kid is asleep and I dont want to wake her up in the middle of the night. I do wonder why the variant kept the hot commander alive unlike all the other attacks

Why does the TVA have such a retro vibe?

Loki definitely wants everyone to know how awesome he is.

There used to be a HULK LOKI??? Also the look on Loki's face 🤣

The one after the hulk is just... I honestly don't have words to describe that one.. just wut???

I love the geeky Loki telling them about the nuances of magic (Im already creating a headcanon that this is an act and he's only showing them what they want to see i.e. an eager to please, slightly duplicitous version of Loki who wants them to know he's super useful to keep around)

Professor Loki. I do like the sound of that even if I suddenly flashed back to all of the harry potter crossover fics i used to read where Loki became a teacher at Hogwarts.

Mobius just gave Loki an answer from Doctor Who!!! Well sorta like that, not the same one but its all wibbly wobbly timey whimey stuff!

Loki is making his attempts at manipulation very very obvious and somewhat desperate. I'm really really reallllllly hoping this is an act. Come on writer people dont make me regret my decision to watch this show. I really wanna love it but I'm in that once bitten twice shy boat regarding the handling of his character so I'm either gonna come out of this series absolutely loving it orrrrrr I'm gonna hate it FOREVER and happily live in my headcanons.

It was an act! We finally see the real Loki! There is hope for this show yet!

Also the way his voice goes from the higher pitched eager to please tone to that deeper, slightly sinister yet 'i know I'm powerful and you should fear me' tone was fun to see.

This had better still be an act. He's supposed to be awesome at playing the long game.

He got shushed! So he shushed her back!

So wait... The total population on Asgard less than 10,000? Really?

Yeah Loki. Stabbing people in the back is boring. Stab them in the face! Much more fun that way.

Total Doctor Who vibes! They went to Pompeii! Ohhh imagine how fun it would be to see Doctor and Donna strolling somewhere in the background. Not that that would happen but now its my new headcanon and you'll have to stab me in the face to pry this headcanon from my claws xD

Loki, I'm loving your enthusiasm but the word Volcano was coined AFTER Pompeii's destruction. I doubt they know what you're talking about 😂 also, there's a volcano 'splodin! In the background, where the hell are the earthquakes?

Magic lizards. Loki really has a way with naming things doesn't he

Existence is chaos. Loki is the god of chaos. Since in algebra if a=b and b=c then a=c=a SO Loki is the god of existence and the variant Loki has already reached that conclusion so now the magic space lizards are feeling threatened by variant loki's potential and they want the variant dead to keep being the most powerful magic space lizards inside and outside of existence! Guys! I've just solved this season's plotline. If I don't live react to the remaining series episodes, know that I was found by you know who and taken for giving out spoilers.

Mobius: You're very clever!

Loki: and that surprises you? O_o

Asgard getting destroyed was a class seven apocalypse but the thin in 2050 is a level ten? I wonder how these classifications work.

The grin! The grin! They're both doing the grin!

You guys mean to tell me that NONE of the product packagings or designs have been altered or upgraded in thirty years? Dove, Axe, Vaseline, Tresseme, its all literally the same as the stuff I saw on the shelves at the grocers this week 🤣 i know it's a minor thing but I find that kinda hilarious.

Whyyyyyyy does Loki keep getting knocked around so much. Also, why isn't he using any magic. Grrrr... I find this most displeasing

She blond?!? Why is she blond??

Poor Mobius. I feel kinda sorry for him tbh.

And that's wrap on this episode. Still having mixed feelings about the series. There are parts that I like and then there are parts which keep bugging me. I'm not familiar with the various plotlines in the comics so I dunno whatever happened in those to the Loki though I find it interesting that Lady Loki (why is she blonddddd??? Why not make her a redhead instead? Loki was a redhead in most of the depictions pre-avengers, wasn't he?) has that broken horn on her headpiece like that one version from the comics.

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Episode 5 thoughts 💭 in no particular order (almost a week late lmao)

Edited because I figured out how to do a read more on mobile ftw

I really love the opening shot of the TVA starting upside down then slowly panning in a circle to finally be right side up. Love that for the cinematographer and love that for us.

Throg my beloved I really wanted the Loki’s fighting to somehow free you and mew-mew from your prison. Ah at least there’s fanfic for that.

Sylvie was a mood this episode. I didn’t expect her to self prune, but as she knew she wasn’t killing herself I can see where she was coming from. Loki’s survive and she saw that as her best chance to not only survive but to find Loki and discover who is behind the TVA

Also the that shot where she self pruned was amazing. Chef’s 💋

Speaking of Sylvie the team up with Mobius was unexpectedly organic. I expected there to be a bit more tension than we got, but Mobius’s dad-mode was on and kind of great.

I want to read all the fic about that car ride tho. Mobius had to have brought up his theory about what caused the Nexus event on Lamentis. And Sylvie probably asked him wtf he was on. Loki and her being in love with each other? Are you high Mobius? Or just jealous?

Also I absolutely got Sylvie ships Lokius vibes the whole dang time. And now I need to read the fic where Sylvie gives Mobius a very awkward but threatening shovel talk.

Sylvie about Loki:

I gotta admit Marvel has got me curious about Renslayer and I wonder how close MCU and comic canon are going to be.

I kind of think she’s been a little mind wiped, but she could also be a Renslayer variant and Kang is with his “Sacred Timeline” version of her.

One thing is for certain I am absolutely certain she’s going to make it out of the season alive and that she’s set up to become a great antagonist in her own right. And I’m excited for it.

Annual note to say that my boy Casey still doesn’t know what a fish is. ☹️

I know that technically he’s an alligator but he’s still Croki in my heart.

Also it would be hilarious if he was actually a Thor variant but he hid as Croki to be able to hang out with as many versions of his sibling as he could. I think it would be a very Thor thing to do tbh.

Someone already wrote Croki as Thor fic, go read it.

Classic Loki was a treat tbh. Richards E Grant was cast perfectly and I really want to see more of his Loki. And I don’t think he’s dead.

The way he missed Thor and his home on Asgard. I bet he used to recreate Asgard all the time when he was hiding out in self imposed exile. 😭😭😭😭

The way that Kid Loki and Classic Loki seem to be the closest to each other. Both obviously miss their brother and while Kid Loki is King I feel like it’s because he doesn’t truly want the throne, which makes him the best person to have it. If you know what I mean.

Those two probably were expecting to be betrayed by Boastful, but were sill unimpressed to be proven right.

As for Boastful Loki — I wish we had gotten to see more from him. Like yeah we got more of him than President Loki, but I would have loved to see two episodes with Boastful traveling with our Loki and the group. I want to be able to fall in love with his take on being a Loki and then I want the surprise but not of all the Loki’s betraying each other. It would have added to the dramatic tension of the story and further highlighted our Loki’s disappointment in that character trait in himself.

I am also super disappointed that Mobius wasn’t in that scene. Him watching Loki watch his variants betray each other would have sure been something.

Also Sylvie’s reaction of complete Wtf would have been a goldmine.

That Sylvie & Loki scene sure was a thing, but I’m choosing and have almost convinced myself to see it platonically. The way that both Sylvie and Loki called themselves part of the same person the whole episode gives me hope.

I also want to the the dumpster fire that is President Loki again. We barely got to see him and I already know he’s more chaotic than our Loki ever was.

Lokius hug. They did the thing?!?!

Ah we were well fed by that hug. But I still want more and I may be clowning but I really think we’ll see Loki and Mobius interact again before the end of the next episode. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

This is getting long but I got to call out my bestie Loki. I’m pretty sure he didn’t fully stay with Sylvie out of loyalty but because he doesn’t fully trust her. Also his curiosity must be killing him tbh. I think what Loki wants is three-fold:

He wants to know who or what is behind the TVA

He wants to support Sylvie but also make sure that she’s not going to screw over Mobius and the other TVA variants. Loki’s got an emotional stake in this and while I think he genuinely likes Sylvie and can appreciate how awesome she is. He hasn’t forgotten that she’s a Loki variant and as we saw this episode Loki’s stab each other in the back to get what they want.

He mentioned in episode 3 about a power vacuum if someone took down the time keepers and I bet he wants to see the shape of everything before he fully decides what to do about that potential vacuum

What I’m saying I guess is, I think things have the potential to get very messy in the finale.

[the-void-staring-back]

Loki 1x04

a child? really? the tva really aren't the good guys, then :/

oh, it's the backstory of a character i forgot to care about. anyways ...

the timekeepers really did not look menacing

"full scale calamity" - oooooh, so they're definitely gaslighting everyone then

c20 knew too much and they killed her then, huh. they're really going balls to the wall in establishing who is evil here, huh

loki in near-death situations has kinda lost its jeopardy at this point tbh. marvel has become the studio that cried resurrection

they tried to kill her for being a girl? wtf, that's so freaking dumb. i'm also not feeling remotely inclined to care about her tbh

i have 0 interest in this romantic subplot. it's pissing me off, actually, if anything

loki and mobius bickering like an old married couple. love that for them

SIF! yessss! the show is worth watching for her presence alone! come back, hit him some more! oh yaah this is what i'm here for

"your loki" - <3

this whiny, sad version of loki is actually really boring. not much chaos for the god of mischief

mobius waking in after her saying he'll always be alone. poetic cinema.

also, how is torture supposed to warm him to the tva?

mobius is so snarky. i love him so much. something terrible is definitely about to happen to him, i can feel it

"sick, twisted relationship" "seismic narcissism" - yes, this is what i'm saying

he might have had a jet ski!

oof, B-15 my beloved

the boss lady is manipulating him now. there's not a single 'good' person on the show. who am i even meant to be rooting for here?

how come mobius gets a name but B15 doesn't? like ,, who decides the hierarchy?

B15, breaking my heaRTTT!

tom hiddleston’s ass is a gift in those slacks tho ,,,

ohhhhh. i love them i love them i love them

noooooooo! ffs. i knew it was coming and it still hurt! loki looks distraught and i for one am gutted

damn, just can't get the brainwashed staff these days

oh that's cruel. that's like, next level evil. the apathy. damn, i almost felt sorry for sylvie

the timekeepers are pretty much the least convincing cgi people i've ever seen

B15!!!!!!

why not just touch them with the pruing end? wtf? how dumb

i'm not even getting fun battle couple vibes from them

oh, that explains why they looked so bad

“it never ends” - how i’m feeling, bro

i really, really don't need this weird love story. like, thank god for the boss lady tbh

[cyronite]

Thought Dump For the Loki Series ep 1:

Firstly just want to say I love the dialogue in this show so far. Honestly it’s so great and made the episode very enjoyable.

In general I found this episode to be enjoyable.

I’m sad to see the Asgardian leather go but I appreciate the shirtless Loki 👀

Also Loki x tesseract. Let him have his tesseract 😌💅

“It sounds dumb” OMG NO DONT SAY THAT ABOUT HIS TESSERACT 💀💀

I love miss minute. The little animation is cute lol

The panic he has looking for his ticket stuck out for me lol like obviously he doesn’t want to turn out like the last guy, but damn I can’t remember I time we’ve seen Loki like that.

Bruh Loki would literally burn that place to the ground and Agent Mobius knows that 💀 like buddy stop tempting him. I know work sucks but damn

LOKI WAS DB COOPER BECAUSE OF A FUCKING DARE??? Aksjkaka that’s what he said right?? Either way DB COOPER

Also Loki winking 🥰🥰🥰

“You’re just a little pussycat.” Loki is a cat confirmed 👏

That speech about Loki’s purpose. God that hurt and is literally everything that Loki did not want to be.

Honestly Agent Mobius was a better therapist then Bucky’s ever was. (I said what I said)

Of course he escaped lmao. Agent Mobius should have known better.

Also the fish scene with the desk guy 😂😂 the fact he doesn’t know what a fish is made em giggle honestly. probably my favourite interaction in the whole ep tbh.

Loki realizing how much power the Time Variance Authority has 💀 that is not a good sign tbh. I dunno where they’re gonna go with that but like 💀💀💀

Seeing Loki’s pain over his mother’s death and watching his other self’s life.

Loki crying 😭😭

The smile and small laugh we get when he sees Thor in the file player thing. 🥺

That brief change of sadness to anger that we see from him. Like damnnn

Loki messing around with and the Time Variance Authority Lady (I think she’s called a hunter?? I dunno tbh I tried finding her name but couldn’t) 💀 Loki stop pls she’s just trying to do her job and you’re not helping your case at all.

Also I hope we get to see more of her!!! I love her tbh I like her vibe and her interactions with Loki were fun!! I think she would be an interesting character to see develop through out the show. She seems cool and if we don’t get more of her I think I’ll end up really disappointed 🥲

Loki hunting down himself is not exactly where I saw this going. But I had a feeling he had done something/involved in a unique way earlier because of the church scene. The way that agent mobius described the scene and dead guys hinted toward it being done by Loki.

Also I feel like choices may be an important them because they seemed to focus on it a bit in the discussion between Loki and Agent Mobius. Maybe Loki will have to make a huge choice at some point?? I dunno I dunno

All in all nice first episode, 8/10, could have saved the leather, but a good episode none the less.