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while on the topic of iron posting. a very small very insignificant thing that i really enjoy is that nobody really harasses it for not speaking. and like. we don't know precisely why it doesn't speak. it could be because it's mute, it could be due to an unseen injury, it could just be a selective choice, it could be that it never bothered to learn human language to begin with, etc etc. but there's never been a scene (at least as far as i can recall) where mr iron is specifically called out or pressured or anything of the sort. not even by its own haters 4 haters coworkers. and yeah this is realistically probably because its an ESPECIALLY deadly space bat that could kill you six ways from sunday if you pissed it off, but also, y'know, sometimes it's really nice just having a mute character that's treated Normally for once
#mr iron doesnt talk and that's just. A Fact Nobody Questions. it's just what it does.#nobody's like ugh stop using that stupid blackboard. they're just reading and responding bc that's just its method of conversation#and again! we don't actually know why it does that! for all we know its always been mute. or it chose that for a very specific reason#but. yknow. idk. in an incredibly weird halfway backwards sorta way. it's just really nice to have it treated as nbd#idk maybe this post is incoherent and im just going insane bc today is. A Trainwreck lmao#yin-thoughts#fallen london#a lot of nonspeaking characters (and real life people) usually get overlooked or dehumanized on some level#bc they (supposedly) cant communicate for themselves (at least on a level people understand)#idk. it's like. suddenly if u cant verbally express urself ur just not on the same level as people#i like that iron is different. i like how nobody really complains or draws that much attention to it.#and yes. this is almost definitely just because it's a giant evil space bat in a position of Significant Power#that can and Will kill you in an instant#but. it's still nice nonetheless.
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back from a night out and I took my usual stickering route home to check on what got scratched off -- come to find someone else has wheatpasted a gender abolitionist feminist poster to a lamppost and tied some suffragette flag ribbons to a nearby fence. Knowing another local feminist has seen my stickers and known she's not alone makes me glad I continued doing this for as long as I have. :)
#consciousness raising has always been the number 1 goal#number two is letting gender ideologue extremists [as in those who threaten violence against dissenters] know#that 'terfs' live and walk among them and the possibility that they're interacting with one at any given time#not quite as easy to dehumanize your neighbours#and that their views are not necessarily ubiquitous
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honestly, re: my last reblog, but it's so funny to me how unbearably annoying humans in mass effect are, like you guys!!!!! calm down!!! you JUST arrived!!! maybe take in your surroundings for 5 seconds before declaring you should be treated like the most special princesses of all and have all the advantages ever without any drawback and be recognized as the supreme leaders who have all the clarity and drive and righteousness to solve everything and be the victims of everyone's envy and meanness and the ultimate heroes who will save everyone in spite of themselves...... 😔😔😔
#thoughts#mass effect#honestly though it's VERY realistic#it's probably the most realistic portrayal of how ego-driven humans would be in a first contact scenario I've ever seen haha#but gggod you guys are SO annoying!!!!#it's why I've never been fully onboard with anderson for example#this guy is so humanity-patriotic to the point of completely “dehumanizing” a lot of the aliens he meets#especially in the novels#not to say it's normal that only 3 species are at the top making decisions#and the democratic system of that society is fucking busted like it's an actual joke#but humans don't seek to fix that and make it more fair#they don't ally with voluses and hanar and elcor and vorchas and batarians and krogans to make a democratic coalition#no they're like ????? but?? but me???? but I'M special????????#but ME deserve to be on top??????#not questioning the system but just being like “okay how can I climb on top and become the ultimate girlboss of space aliens”
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Shigure's relationship with Kyo drives me crazy. he doesn't hate Kyo in the slightest - in fact, he pities Kyo, and not in the condescending "oh you poor little boy, cursed to be a horrible, disgusting monster" sort of way that everyone else does. Shigure pities Kyo for the reason he should be pitied: he's just a kid caught up in a system so inhumane it can't possibly be survived without some seriously unhealthy coping mechanisms.
and it drives me crazy because - listen, Shigure is the only zodiac member who's emotionally aware enough to see the other zodiac members as exactly what they are. he knows Yuki is a severely traumatized kid who projects all of his self-hatred on a single convenient target. he knows Akito is really a scared little girl with a raging god complex (literally) and no concept of a healthy relationship. and he knows Kyo is a regular-ass human being who doesn't deserve to be locked up for the rest of his life just because some arbitrary system says so. he KNOWS it's stupid. he KNOWS it's ridiculous and unfair. and he has to share a house with Kyo knowing that Kyo is living with a sword over his head, hating himself and hating others in perfect tandem because he has no other way of coping with the insane amounts of negativity he's had to deal with his entire life.
but the thing about Shigure is that he KNOWS all of this, and the same time he doesn't really CARE. he feels sorry for Kyo, but an apathetic sort of pity, a disinterested "this is how it is. such a shame." sort of pity. in some ways he's worse than the other zodiacs because he DOES see Kyo as a person, someone he likes being around even, but he still considers Kyo below his attention because all his focus is on Akito and breaking the curse. and sure, once the curse is broken Kyo will theoretically be set free with the rest of them, but that's more of a coincidental side effect than anything. despite being in a much more dangerous and precarious mental space AND comfortably in Shigure's reach, Kyo is about as much a priority for Shigure as Ritsu or Momiji.
and it drives me CRAZY because i think Shigure does start actively caring about Kyo as the series goes on, but it's hard to tell when that happens and to what extent. when Kazuma told Shigure he planned to reveal Kyo's true form and Shigure said he was going too far - whose sake was it for? was Shigure trying to protect Kyo, who would be hideously traumatized/emotionally scarred by such a cruel betrayal? was he trying to protect Kyo and Tohru's relationship, which was still formulating and might, under such severe testing, ultimately end up damaged beyond repair? was he only trying to protect Tohru, who wasn't ready to be burdened by such a horrible aspect of the curse so soon, or perhaps simply didn't deserve it? or was it all for the sake of himself, trying to protect his still-forming plans of using Tohru's positive effect on the Sohmas to break the curse?
Shigure cares about Kyo, but they're not close and Kyo clearly isn't a priority. he treats Kyo like a person - offering him genuine advice, teasing him like he teases anyone else, even speaking up on his behalf once or twice - and yet he's too entrenched in the long game to spare much active interest in Kyo. for a very long time, he doesn't care about Kyo the way he cares about Yuki or Tohru, and it's never made clear when exactly that changed. and the thing that gets me about this whole situation is that right from the start, Shigure is in a position where he can meet Kyo at his level - as equals, just one human being to another - but he doesn't, because Shigure is a chessmaster, Shigure is someone who observes and calculates, Shigure never steps in unless one of his chess pieces makes a wrong move and he absolutely has to.
it drives me crazy. Shigure drives me crazy. this series drives me so so crazy.
#i think my point here was “shigure sees kyo as an actual human being but still treats him badly”#which is kind of the point of shigure - it's why he's such a gray character#he plays with people's lives like they're toys#but this post actually originated from the realization that shigure doesn't hate kyo in the slightest#(honestly i don't think the majority of the zodiac actually *dislikes* kyo. i think they're just too used to dehumanizing him)#and i was like “okay. so how *does* shigure view kyo?”#and then i thought about it more and went progressively more insane#tbf i think shigure knew he was being immoral in the way he treated kyo#he's incredibly self-aware and knows exactly what he's doing#he just chooses to do it anyway. that's why he calls himself “despicable”#i think the fact that kyo clearly suspects shigure has something more going on under the surface probably didn't help either#it's a very interesting sort of complex#anyway. them#fruits basket#shigure sohma#kyo sohma#analysis#edited for your convenience#(<-capitalized all the names bc it was driving me up the wall)
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^ Me when I definitely understand why fascism and fascist tactics are actually bad and not just something to say I hate on surface level to give me liberal brownie points /sarcasm
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For those calling for dehumanization, please read
I don't see this a lot in the alterhuman/nonhuman communities, but I still do on occasion and I feel like something is being misunderstood here. To be not human is not to be dehumanized, that is not what the term is used for! It doesn't mean "to be considered not human", it means "to be considered less than human". Being nonhuman doesn't mean to be dehumanized, dehumanization is not a good thing! Being treated and treating others humanely is! Even animals should be treated humanely!
Dehumanization is a very real issue minorities face all over the world. To be dehumanized is to be stripped of rights, autonomy, selfhood, etc, to be treated as lesser and worthy of nothing. It's troubling to occasionally see people in the alterhuman/nonhuman communities asking for such a thing, presumably not knowing the weight and connotation of the word "dehumanize". Please please please stop it, dehumanization is not something we as a community should be asking of anyone.
#alterhuman#otherkin#otherkind#therian#therianthropy#nonhuman#i see way too many people asking to be dehumanized because they're nonhuman
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Any theories or thoughts on what might've happened with the Flevance royals?
It's possible that the Flevance Royals were installed as royalties in a different Kingdom. The same happened with Wapol, so this isn't something the WG doesn't do.
But I think they were killed.
It's almost impossible to not develop any symptoms while living in a country for generations where the use of a toxic metal is extremely widespread. Even if it was cured, the risk of the disease's re-emergence in future generations would remain. I don't know if genetic treatments were a thing, but I doubt the WG would go so far to treat a bunch of fallen royals who were no longer of any use to them. Better to play it safe and eliminate everyone so the trouble stays under the rug.
Then what was the point of sending a ship for their evacuation? Maybe to escalate the state of chaos, and trigger instability near the borders. In absence of a government, the civilians armed themselves and engaged in a war.
The WG waited until the situation reached a point where all neighboring countries wanted these people dead, so the marines could enter the scene as 'heroic peacekeepers' and wipe them out without a fuss.
How ironic would it be for the most prepared and privileged to be eliminated while a boy alone survives and cures himself..
#the book doffy was reading has to be banned/illegal/lacking information bc no way the government would allow the truth to spill#an entire population so dehumanized that no one bats an eye when they're wiped out#wish it was something that only happens in fiction#one piece meta#one piece theories#asks#trafalgar law#mine
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Still thinking about how Clover on the No Mercy Route likely would've given up their quest for vengeance and lived with Martlet had Axis not told them that he killed Integrity. The only real difference between Aborted No Mercy Run Clover and No Mercy Run Clover are a few more destroyed robots and the knowledge of what Axis did, which sent their LOVE skyrocketing to LV 19.
Look at them. They can't even look Ceroba in the eye after they inflict the final blow.
#undertale yellow#personally i see Clover's journey on the No Mercy Route as them feeling immense guilt and disgust with themself for killing monsters#but they HAVE to. it's self-defense. they're monsters. any one of them could have killed one of the other children. anything they can#tell themself to justify their own actions. but they can't lie to themself. not entirely. on some level they know what they're doing is#wrong and that's why they gradually lose their ability to recognize themself. and when they get to Axis that's when they're at their most#stressed. they just slaughtered dozens of monsters. they watched the monsters around them (like Angie and Gilbert and Dina) act like people#would under threat/treat them like they would a monster. they terrorized this robot throughout the Steamworks. maybe if they kill this one#they'll feel a sense of fulfillment/finality (they won't. deep inside they know they won't). and then Axis admits to having killed one of#the kids they're looking for and suddenly everything clicks into place. killing him feels like the easiest thing in the world. why were#they so caught up on remorse? just because they got distracted by a society more complex/civil than they thought it'd be? they're all#still kid-killers at the end of the day no matter how nice they all acted.#even then fighting against martlet they still have to deliberately dehumanize her by calling her ''the enemy'' in the first part and remind#themself of what they're fighting for/their freedom and home on the Surface in the second half. their SOUL blasts (which are a#manifestation of them/their will) barely do anything to her unlike Axis and Asgore who are brutally killed by one blast. i think Clover#genuinely liked her (a worthy opponent/they search her memories for a reason to hate her) and regretted killing her but they felt like they#had to. no loose ends.#take away the whole LOVE jump and finding out that Axis killed Integrity and what you have left is a kid who thought they knew what the#right thing to do was yet killed dozens for nothing. they're deeply remorseful and want a chance to better themself. one that Martlet would#offer bc she would see some good in them.#anyways. fat paragraphs in the tags once again#uty analysis#char: clover#yippee. you can see how badly i did in this fight with my remaining hp. jokes on you i beat her first try (this time around)
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Me, watching some YJS fans justify what Shauna did to Mari by using clips of Mari and Jackie giggling in s1 (normal teenage girl things), or Mari speaking the truth and trying to take Jackie's jacket (even though it was the middle of winter and the group were already sharing clothes), with said fans saying that they've would've done worse to Mari in response, acting like that makes them any better:
#yellowjackets spoilers#yellowjackets#like this fandom continues to disappoint me#“she's traumatized” not an excuse especially since she specifically was targeting mari for the thrill and dehumanized her body after#something in which she hadn't done to the other kills mind you and then wore mari's hair as a trope#*trophy#that is beyond being traumatized and just shauna being horrific. it's okay to admit that#what isn't okay however is to dismiss valid criticism (largely from poc fans) about how dehumanizing it was that she did to mari#by saying “women can't commit wrongs” or “let women be wrong” when you know damn well that isn't the case#(or are you mad that you can't live out your violent fantasy thru shauna without being called out? hmm)#and all the reasons those fans use to justify it are just mari being 1.) a teenage girl 2.) being truthfully honest and 3.) worse sins have#been committed by the other characters like SHAUNA#when you bring up how shauna slept jeff and got pregnant by her best friend's boyfriend it's just “oh teenage girl things”#but when mari is also doing “teenage girl things” one which includes being shady and a bit mean suddenly that excuse no longer applies#largely bc fandom often times doesn't sympathize much with poc characters as they do their yte counterparts#especially if they're young#shauna shipman#mari ibarra#anti shauna shipman#if i ever said that shauna was one of my faves i take it back SO HARD#shauna's ass crying back in the adult tl like she's innocent....i need her to die#but watch the show give her a graceful send out bc it's the shauna show (even tho it's an ensemble cast)#it's kind of annoying to see these fans use lottie as a comparison saying that people care about mental illness as long as the person#doesn't react violently like shauna and while to a degree i can understand bc that is true#in this case it kind of falls flat when you take into consideration how in the show and fandom lottie and her mental state haven't been#treated with the same response or care that shauna has (lottie is beaten brutally while experiencing an episode by shauna)#and it's done dirty throughout the show until her death with only really simone speaking up angrily against how she's portrayed#(same people who are justifying shauna lashing out in anger regarding her trauma were the same ones who were hating on travis in s1 & s2)
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I resent getting dragged into the discourse but it's wild to me that there are people out there who read the HP books and laud Harry for being brave and having a big heart and redeeming the wizarding world with his unusually great ability to love, yet can't comprehend how he could learn to appreciate Snape's sacrifice.
I'm very specifically thinking of the fact that Harry watches Snape die. Snape, who is lying on the floor, gripping Harry's robes, and whose eyes Harry is looking into and seeing the life leave. I don't understand how people can humanize some fictional characters and treat them as if they were real and completely dehumanize another. Not even for Snape's sake, but for Harry's sake, do these people not understand what it is to watch someone die? What's the expectation, that the Capacity For Love Posterchild protagonist steps out of character and doesn't care about the guy he watches bleed out and die suffering because you, as a reader, don't like him?
Which is it? Does Harry have a huge capacity to love or not? Pick a lane. Either you value this character trait in Harry or you don't. But you have to take or leave everything it comes with, otherwise you're a hypocrite. Or maybe illiterate.
I just don't GET it.
#Harry watched Dumbledore die and took the locket from his corpse.#Harry held Dobby in his arms as he died.#And then Harry watched Snape die. The kid has seen a lot of death and it has a profound effect on him.#What kind of person expects him to walk away from Snape's death and go 'yeah but he was still an asshole.'#Not to mention that Snape was the only person Harry ever met who told him stories about his mom and showed him what she was like.#Even if you're too emotionally dense to understand the emotional shift that happens when an antagonistic authority figure becomes vulnerabl#with you - let alone to such an extreme degree#How do you not understand that being part of someone's death is an intimate experience that bonds you to some degree?#If I only saw this kind of attitude from people who treat the books and characters as fiction I'd get it maybe.#But I see it from people who will argue on behalf of Harry and/or the Marauders as if they were real people with agency and not characters#created by the same author as Snape and/or whoever else they hate#but their treatment of them as real people either ends at characters they like or they're just the kind of people who dehumanize#anyone they don't like in real life too I guess?#and I see this AGAINST MY WILL because I don't even want to see this discourse AND YET *gestures at my feed*
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sorry thinking about my hc that hunting dog surgeries leave autopsy scars
#and you know they could heal those#they don't need to leave them#but its a way to dehumanize them#remind them they're government property#and if they step out of line all they'll be are cadavers#bsd#bungou stray dogs#bungo stray dogs#bsd hunting dogs#hunting dogs bsd#tachihara michizou#teruko okura#tetchou suehiro#tecchou suehiro#jouno saigiku#fukuchi ouchi
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the dehumanization and infantilization of the players in squid game makes me insane. they're all assigned numbers and only referred to by staff as that. they aren't people, just numbers. gi-hun says that they treat the players like horses to bet on (and they do!). the trackers in their skin. the way all the games are inspired by games for children; all of the competitors are grown adults. the tracksuits that look like school sportswear. even simple, accidental, human mistakes are punished. they aren't meant to be seen as human. they're just players of a game, in the eyes of the creators.
#squid game#trevor.txt#not to metapost about squid game of all things but like#does anyone understand. its suchhhh an interesting thing to me how the game is set up#so horrendously dystopian. which sadly does have some truth to it. the super mega wealthy don't see the poor as human#and plus the vips fund this for their own entertainment. what would they have to gain if they treated the players like human beings#what i also find interesting is even though the pink soldiers have authority over and kill the players they're still dehumanized#they wear masks covering their faces. voice changers obscuring identity. if they show their face that's a death sentence#they have no problems with killing their own men for not following the rules either they are straight up expendable#IDK does this make any sense 2 anyone
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While it would be nice to think of Knives giving Legato his name as a moment of kindness, you know what else people name? Dogs they intend to use and abuse.
Knives and Legato's relationship is, well. Fucked up to put it mildly, there's a good reason so much of the fandom is drawn in by it. But at the end of the day, Knives actively refuses to see any person, even ones that he "loves" (*waves pointedly at Vash*), as an individual, and since the day he was born, Legato has only served a purpose and served others. He has no sense of self or self-worth, only blind devotion and extremely self-destructive behaviors.
In the end, this name is just a different mark of ownership from another abuser. The antagonists of this story excellently portray the cycle of abuse continuing instead of managing to break, and god is it so painful.
#Trigun#Trimax#TrigunBookclub#This is just always how I've read the scene tbh#Since Knives has SO ACTIVELY tried to dehumanize even his own brother#His own followers#His own species#All in a desperate attempt to not look at himself#To find his own flaws and mistakes and traumas#God they're so fucked up#Nightow Wrote them so well
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Probably surprises absolutely no one what my gen rex ship is
#gen rex#generator rex#rex salazar#noah nixon#noex#is he... you know -whip crack noise-#best friends to lovers is my bread and butter#bonus points if one of them is dehumanized by the people around them and the other one makes them feel normal#this will only make sense to the 10 people who know my ocs but my sister pointed out that i like them so much because#they're jaden and collin coded hfkdjlscdk
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the forever knights have "facts" about him.
#ben tennyson#ben 10#forever trapped au#ft!ben#i hid some lil messages in there for ppl who want to find them :3#it's not too hard just messages on a low opacity layer#i see them as a sort of cult in this au#the forever knights i mean#and this is the sort of stuff they'd show to dehumanize ben in the eyes of their followers#like 'ooh hes actually an evil alien in disguise and he wears the skin of a child to trick you into sympathizing with him'#when in reality. no hes a terrified kid who is attached to the most powerful device in the galaxy#he is HUMAN first and foremost#but the easiest way to desensitize someone to torture is to dehumanize the person getting tortured#'they deserve it they're not even human they're a monster'#type stuff
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"it came to me in a dream" except it actually came to me in a dream.
a few nights ago i had a pretty coherent dream where these five were younger kids and living on an ARK-type research facility as test subjects. this might be a stupid concept, but im planning on spending the next few days playing with the idea. more information coming soon :3c (maybe) (also in the tags pls read the tags)
this will probably be tagged with 'lab au' depending on if i come up with a better name
#sorry if u cant see my writing ;;#they all have like. something enhanced about them#like thats how sonic got his speed#knux his strength#tails his intelligence etc.#shadow is purposefully very little because i imagine hes kept in his lil pickle jar half the time#cus the researchers are worried about letting him loose#so as a result he hasnt grown much in size#also. questionable ethics regarding the experiments as a whole#i want to play with the dynamic between humans and mobians and i wonder if the kids were picked specifically BECASE they're mobians#do humans see them as lesser than them? it feels dehumanizing but very in character for the human race#sonic the hedgehog#sth#sonic fanart#sonic au#lab au#amy rose#miles tails prower#rouge the bat#knuckles the echidna#shadow the hedgehog#art#btw no shipping in this au theyve grown up together and theyll all like family :3c#jaxa art
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