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mobblespsycho100 · 6 months ago

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👍psychoanalyze ur kabru playlist now boy

yes I shall #1 boykisser... 🫡

ask game thing

anyway formatting the last post was kinda hell for me. which is why I'll do the same exact formatting for this one...

(rambling all over the place is commencing)

1. Valley of The Dolls by MARINA

baby. where do i freaking begin.

"In the valley of the dolls, we sleep" -> his adoptive mother, Milsiril, is a big fan of collecting dolls. Like, plushies of everything. She animates them to fight, but they're also there to soothe her. She also adopts a lot of children from short-lived races who don't have a family and she got allegations that she treats them all like her dolls lmao... I mean she kind of does in the sense that they're all precious to her. She does respect their autonomy but uhhh still living with such a doting and overbearing/overprotective mother makes u wanna break outta the dollhouse the cage . be free . hashtag transgenderism also gosh im getting off topic . anyway i bet Kabru slept with a lotta those dolls. in his comfy bed . that he left behind because hes not abt that life mama he wanna see the world and save it and get killed in dungeons. boy.

"Got a hole inside of me / Living with identities / That do not belong to me" -> Grouping these lyrics together because it makes sense for my twisted narrative i mean my very real and based takes. Anyway, he's got a hole inside of him the void in his heart (in his mind) and thats why. his autism and ptsd masking swag. thats as eloquent as i can put it. theres a lot more i can say though

"In my life, I got this far" -> He survived the tragedy of Utaya his hometown . the bloodbath because of the dungeon. It has to be for a purpose ™ . It's because he has to save the world from suffering the same fate and it's his burden to bear it's his purpose it was why he survived (the survivor's guilt... goodness man. trauma processing of all time. :[ )

"Now I'm ready for the last hoorah" -> boy . letting these panels speak for itself. putting it under the cut because spoilers for the peeps seeing this maintagged and they're not caught up with manga .

yeah boy hes falling. fallen. uhm. in the pit. Ready for the last hoorah in this case like. yeah 🤣 just leaving it up to laios (Liar . kabru and mithrun dungeon adventure speedrun)

"Dying like a shooting star" -> guy keeps dying. not even like a shooting star really. well. ig hes going out in style somewhat id getting crushed by Falin's chimera dragon claw counts as shooting star style

2. Lip Sinking by The Hoosiers

We all know Sash does not play about The Hoosiers which is why I have 26 damn The Hoosiers songs on there I should get awarded tbh .

Now Lip Sinking is really good because it's another one of those scammer / masking guy anthems i keep talking about. These lyrics in Verse 5 in particular is really easy to match to Kabru's character moment™ though, so let's break it down.

"I float above my body" -> Common depersonalization experience. For trauma reasons, Kabru probably feels like this a lot sometimes but specifically in this scene...

(apologies for no alt text peeps . but this is the friendship confession scene for those in the know if it hasnt loaded in yet)

anyway, back to the show (psychoanalyzing Kabru) . I think this disconnect with his words VS his thoughts and his heart is so real. Like. seeing urself out of ur body is again a depersonalization thing, and idk if hes feeling depersonalization in this moment specifically but he was really out of it and in a sort of , scrambled and intensely anxious state. His usually calm and cool persona slash facade is Crumbling and man he hates that .

"Must be out of my mind / Cos I watch myself / Getting it wrong everytime" -> He's like. man what the hell am I saying

letting the page speak for itself again because It's like. its there i mean its in tha text what am I supposed to dissect hes dissecting himself already 🤭😭 okay. 'What am I saying' 'I can't find the words' so true man idk what the hell im saying either rn

"I can't tell you how I'm really feeling" -> because he doesn't know his own emotions. He thinks he does, he has been so good at controlling them and like being fake about what he's truly feeling in his heart, adjusting his personality for others' sake. So they trust him, believe in him, listen to him. But for Laios, how does he even say anything? Before this, the words just spilling out, he didn't even know how he felt about Laios. It sounds ridiculous even to himself and that's why he clamps his mouth afterwards but indeed it Is what he was truly feeling all along... (and then Laios thinks he's lying and hes like "NO BITCH!!!? what?!!!?! im being vulnerable and honest rn?!?" )

"Cuz I'm just lip-syncing" -> for so long that's what he's been doing. lip syncing, saying things he doesn't really mean to influence others' perception of him... but this time his mouth moved faster than his mind racing with thoughts. that he's able to convey what he truly wanted all along and finally admit to himself and his own consciousness. like. aaaahgh. man hes so special to meeee....

bonus: the outro's lyrics is rlly good aha. he can finally say what he actually feels... he can be #real.

3. Allies or Enemies by The Crane Wives

This one is . a lot of vibes I think.

"Are we allies or enemies? / This will be the death of me / This will be the death of me" -> He legit says this to Laios . like hes still wondering if they're allies or enemies . Technically he doesn't want them to be enemies. he's cautious but he knows Laios isn't really a bad guy but like, his mind just keeps fixating on Laios and the steps he takes to get the dungeon under control so. hes desperately trying to figure it out because goodness this guy is so. waugh

"All is fair in love and war, but I can't fight with you anymore / This will be the death of me" -> his mental conflict is sooo tasty to me. like . all is fair in love and war !!! any method is justifiable !!! means justifies the ends but also he understands that in the end he can't fully wrap his head around Laios' love of monsters but he knows that Laios will be the one to conquer the dungeon because he also loves his family. He can't fight with him anymore and he can't "kill" him anymore because somehow this man has wormed his way in. well, he never wanted him dead in the first place but I find that he often thinks about killing him to save humanity from his... well. freakishness (complimentary) (concerning sometimes) ;;; but in the end Kabru lets him go and is willing to trust and support Laios till the end ... also once again the repetitiveness of "this will be the death of me" because he's stressed as helll!!!!

"What happens now, do we have another go?" -> I think this is post-Marcille being talked down out of being dungeon lord . Kabru's probably like ok so now what. well. Laios goes its my turn with the dungeon lording 😭😭 (and shit goes down) (but its okay he got it covered)

"Do we bow out and take our seperate roads?" -> Now this is probably when they're (the whole gang) is like "WHERE'S LAIOS DID HE DIE?" no he lives guys its fine. and namari toshiro and kabru run at him in relief. wauh. and also ofc the whole people coming together to eat faligon meat and save Falin ... yippeee... so yeah they don't go seperate roads because Kabru is like yeah imma be Laios' pr manager . #royaladvisor . sticking with him fr fr

"I'll admit I had my doubts / But I want to be let in, not out / But I want to be let in, not out" -> again the repetition ... of him wanting to help. I've mostly been talking abt how this entire song is Kabru's conflicted thoughts @ Laios but this can also be Kabru lending a helping hand to Mithrun at the end of everything. Because he's the one to like help Mithrun realize that there is a purpose to living and like . new desires and ppl who care abt him... but also yeah Kabru "i want to be let in, not out" because he wants to help out Laios with running the new kingdom instead of being in the background again and being ignored ahhaa he wants to be friends for real (and maybe even . lovers. lets go gay people)

ANYWAYYY YEAH THATS THE END WOOOOO idk how to close this out. happy belated birthday kabru and ty juno for sending this in ajshjdhsb :33 ♡

#dunmeshi #dungeon meshi spoilers #kabru of utaya #asks #playlist song choice ask game #juno 🔬👁️ !#ty for the ask... lalalala lets go to tge stim zone and . get pacing or whatever #(guy who is chilling on its bed rn)#<- prev i pre wrote the tags. i am at work rn (unpaid internship)

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plaguethewaters · 8 months ago

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@thetiredyuk i am having more Thoughts about that one - ranboo is the sone of death beeduo au. I was about to just send you an ask but also this is almost 2k words so it may be better off as a post lmfao

So like. bullet points time, this is an approximate summary of what i think the Plot would be like - wordbuilding aside

(Temporary mcd, suicide warning)

Year like, 1500 something (to be more well researched but i do want it to be like. something something renaissance. it works) we've got two poor ass kids born of the same year. Except tommy is pretty much a normal guy, liked by his family and such. His parents have enough children they can gamble for at least one to be successfull, so they send him to be a painter's apprentice in the hope he'll make some kind of money. There, in the slighter bigger town thats almost a city but not quite, he meets tubbo. Now Tubbo would have been a normal guy, except he was born with facial deformities so now everyone thinks he's a demonic freak hated by the gods (this renaissance world is politheistic bc kristin needs to be there and also i wil not do christianity if i dont have to lmao.)

Tommy is not intimidated by any gods. obviously. also his dad is really into the goddess of death and he prays enough for both of them, so he's like. protected and shite. And he immidiately hits it off with the cursed boy

surprise hes not actually cursed but people are dicks anyways. Tommy makes him a fancy mask to cover his face - even thought its totally cool as shit, but its cool enough only tommy should ever get to see it - and that eventually does help him. Because tubbo wasnt like, a shit guy. Hes a damn good builder and knows how to read, which are talents big enough that the costruction workers for that church out of town are ready to ignore the whole probably cursed thing. As long as he as the masks.

Tommy: makes him the first genuine gift hes ever received in fifteen years of life Tubbo: never takes it off again. like never Tommy: shocked pikachu face

anyways so tommy dies like. super young. They have their fun for a few years but at like seventeen tommy is called to be the artist for this very fancy duke of the town over - and at the start they'r super happy bc that means Money and Food and Roof over your head and shite. its a very good fucking deal.

except the noble is a bastard. His town revolts against him, and when they storm the castle they aren't exactly asking names or faces: tommy gets immidiately like, super destroyed by the crowd, and dies a few minutes later.

Tubbo hears of this like five months later bc its the fifteen hunderds and hes poor.

He does Not take it very well ngl

He goes a bit murdery - basically hes like "im not living without tommy, might as well burn down a village while im at it right, right."

Now ranboo, in all of this, freshly the equivalent of seventeen for an immortal death being, is starting on their training to actually become death- His mom send him on a quaint little village in europe thinking "hey, the most those guys die of is like. malaria. consumption maybe. itll be easy as hell"

And now like two hundred different souls are around him with FIRE written on their foreheads and Ranboo feels distinctly outside of his range, to be really honest.

he steps a couple ethereak planes down just to see what the heck is the matter - if this is another of those voide beings his mom will be Super Pissed and they want to see that reaction

And it isnt the void people

Instead, in front of their eyes, the singular most beautiful person hes ever seen - and hes seen lots, in this line of work.

He cant see their face, but their actions speak enough. The sheer rage, the almost dance like movement of their body perfectly framed by the light of their torch, seeing no humanity or mercy in whatever their searching for. their hair look angelic in its softness, burnt by the worst flames of hell and yet tended by the same hands who wield it - strong hands, clearly forged by hard work and dedication. This is a guy who has nothing to lose, and there's little Death loves most than someone who doesnt fear it.

He has to go down, has to speak to them immidiately.

So he does.

There's really no time - his mom had given the singular rule not to interact with humans, shell be on them in Seconds- but one question can be asked in the haste: "What brings a mortal to do this?"

"It's all for you, love!" the mortal says. They also say some other things, after, but Ranboo is not very well versed in the human tongue and they are speaking Very Loudly.

(Tubbo actually said "Fuck you, you motherfucker it's Your Fault, you took every single thing i love". Easy mistake, if one thinks about it.)

Their mom is Pretty Pissed but she does undesrtand stupid things done for young love. So she's like "eh, ive loved mortals too. go have fun" and everything

Except a year passes, and ranboo still hasnt even spoken to the guy, and she remembers suddenly Mortality Exists.

Shes never had them take a soul who died naturally - for lack of occasion, mostly - and they may have been. a tad sheltered. They most definitely do Not know what death actually is like for humans, nor how long does it take for them to die

she wonders if it would be a tad overprotective to take this over for them

she thinks about seventy years in the future, at most, when the boy dies. She thinks that her son cannot cry but can definitely cry. she thinks of their screams of sadness ringing through her ears-

Tubbo wakes up in the river, alive.

He did not Intend to be alive, and it's actually quite unfortunate for him to be so.The survivors are quite angry and probably close to him, now. Welp, no way to die is reallt any worse than another, he thinks. Ill just wait here for them.

When the pitchfork collapses his heart and he continues breathing, he understands something might be a little bit wrong.

And like, a good five hundred years pass like this.

Things Tubbo has learned in his five hundred, twenty three and two halves years on this demon forsaken earth:

Clothes get so much shittier over time. he has One (1) tailored shit from the 1800 and Nothing has even barely compared to it ever since.

getting stabbed does not hurt less just because youre not actually dying. Poisoning is actiively way worse since you're not actually dying. Diving off cliffs is Not Fun. In general, try not to do dying things even if youre immortal

theres a hole in his heart where his loved ones were and it will never get filled

Food gets esponentially better over time. Lord bless whoever decided curry should go on chicken because they were Cooking For Real. Chocolate was still better before though.

Working for soulles bosses has not changed At All in all of this time tho.

he works at mcdonalds because no college would accept his non existant resume, and being immortal dosent deprive him of his needs unfortunately. The manager took one look at this kid dressed from like three different centuries with a goat mask on his head and was like. why not. at least youre not a stoner and you know how to read.

His coworkers firmly believe hes a criptid and have a full going investigation to prove it. The highest bet at fifty dollars says hes mothman in disguise, there to eat the fliest that live on their shitty food. The lowest bets hes an angel waiting for the right time to brign down armageddon.

Every night he goes in the woods to an almost forgotten Death altar and he prays. Half of his prayers consist of insults and the other half are pleas for her to fucking kill him already

This does not help the criptid chronicles

Kristin also has like. only so much patience. Hes holding up the prayers line - which is actually still pretty fucking used in central asia - and hes generally annoying as shit.

She takes ranboo by the scruff, gives them a passable human form, and throws them down there. Get your shit together boy youre like a thousand years old. Get your man (to stop fucking with the phoneline)

Ranboo is Not Enthusiastic about this but cmon. Hes death. How hard can working at a mac really be?

Spoiler it is

Spoiler it does Not matter, because awkwardness aside ranboo is funny, and easy to talk to, and compassionate and caring. He doesnt want to kill tubbo, he doesnt look at him like hes a fictional creature (and yes marcie, hes seen the bet table), he isnt his soulless boss. Tubbo is grieving but he also very desperstely wants a friend.

One day someone stops at his shitty apartment at like three am

Ranboo stands in fron of his door drenched from head to toe, holding the possibly smallest kitten tubbo has ever seen in his Life. Hes miserable but the cat is miracoulously dry, screaming their head off - and ranboo is panicking. Are they okay are they dying? Do you have any food i dont know what he eats but its so small and i didnt know where else to go- please i dont want it to die or something and-

The moon shines on their long, wet hair and their stupid fucking suit is as wrinkled as ever. They look like they desperately want to rub their hands against each other but there is a kitten in the way and it probably makes them even more anxious - theres very little messes bigger than him, right now.

Tubbo falls in love.

They heal the kitten and keep enderchest in their now shared apartment.

They grow closer, and closer, and something is forming. Ranboo is aware a relationship cannot be based on lies, as much as it worries him how tubbo will react.

so he prepares like a romantic ass evening

roses and candles and a nice dinner with a fancy wine

tubbo almost gets flustered

except at the end of the night the confession isnt "i love you" but "im the guy who took away your only ffamily".

and he sees Red.

Ranboo doesnt remember what tubbo screamed, not exactly. He remembers grief, and crying, and feeling worse than he ever believed he could. He remembers the endless guilt sitting in his chest, and the slam of a door - maybe from the inside out. Hes definitely outside, now, and the house ifìs far away enough eh cant see it, but that could also be the tears.

His mother finds him crouched in a patch of grass, tears steaming down their cheeks in a constant flow. Shes not aware if they'd returned to death form to feel safer, or because they believed they deserved the burn. Shes not sure what option makes her feel worse.

shes aware that this is. pretty much her fault

TO HER DEFENSE she was not really aware humans were so touchy about death. The souls she reaps arent very talkative and the guy shes with is chill about it so like. maybe this one is weird

(the guy she's with is Phil, whos Decidly not a human but has also decided not to tell her yet. For the bit, yknow? He's been a live a couple thousand years, it would be awkward to drop it now. He's also somewhat a serial killer and Not Normal about death At All)

BUt this is still here fault and she does have to set it right a little bit

So she summons Tubbo to her persnoal room in the palace and goes like. "oi. why r u so mad little guy"

And hes like: you took away the single person whos ever loved me ever

"Wait that's the only problem?"

"What the fuck else would it be"

"thought u were mad at him cause he lied lol"

"LYING IS NOT WORSE THAN KILLING A GUY"

Anyways Kristen is so relieved rn. She thought tubbo was phisically like, repulsed by the concept of death and all, and he was mad that Ranboo lied to him and all. Which he is, but the rage is so so much less than the grief yknoe. And she knows how to fix it if its just one (1) measly soul

Tommy is so fucking confused

Th modern world is full of sounds and weird textures and the food is fucking fantastic but also Too Much, and Tubbo introduced him to this weird ass potion hed called a bong and now hes seeing gods the likes of which had never been discoveres

Over all hes just happy to be alive and with his best friend

He kinda hates ranboo. The fucker threw a scyte at him for no reason when tommy would have Almost Certainly survived because he is simply That Cool. Ranboo didn't believe in his awesomeness enough and is thus a Bitch

Tubbo is. iffy

He cant deny he has a teensy tiny crush now, because hes far too deep in this for that

But also ranboo did like. lie straight to his face

but also tubbo would Not have believed him if a random guy showed up at three am at a mcdonalds saying they were the child of death

and he Did trust that what he saw in ranboo was real, betrayal aside. No one fakes looking That much like a wet cat

so it does take a while. couple years in fact, to get back at the level of trust they had before (inster a cool anime montage where they have lots of fun together as roommates and cats coparents and all)

One night when they are - not back together, because they hadnt been dating before, but back to that almost definitely dating just not officialized stage- ranboo asks him if would ever want to be mortal again.

And tubbo thinks of it. His time on earth had been so plagued by grief hed never really ecperienced anything it had to offer. Hed never seen the sights or did anything at all besides praying for death, and thats kind of a shitty way to pass five hundred years

'But tubbo what about your humanity? wouldnt it be irrevocabily lost by giving awau something so fundamentally human as death" someone would ask. And tubbo would anser "ehh who cares"

He hasnt been fully human since hes burned that whole village down, anyway. And he likes the benefits of this life more than whateer moral superiority a Normal human would have over him

just-

"and tommy too, obviously. I get the feeling you dont like him dead" Ranboo jokes.

There's no decision at all then. Fuck yeah, immortal boyfriend and immortal brother what more could a fucker want.

They get to cause chaos on earth and probably kill a bunch of rich people for a long long time

the end :)

Im like. very tentatively calling this Deathless Death, in the vane hope that i will write something for this better thant bullet points. But for now bullet points it is

#beeduo #cbeeduo #ctubbo #cranboo #ctommy #dsmp fanfiction #dsmp fanfic #this is the longest thing ive written in Months #plague writes

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arthrobug · 2 years ago

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Yo yo yo! I'm exhausted and it's 1:30 AM

Vote for an idea of mine, my broken kneecaps and back are on the line homies, please reblog and vote

I kinda suck at deciding for meself, since I like all of them (of course some are favourites I'll get to dat later), so I need some help if y'all don't mind! If you want to, you can simply comment which idea is your favourite! It would be GREATLY appreciated!

First up, is a story I made almost two years ago now (April 3rd-5th 2021), The Living Void!

The Living Void follows 24 skeleton children who seemed to appear out of the blue! They all have different goals they're pursuing, but a question that's on all their minds in one way or another is: 'Why are we here?' or 'How are we here?', or something else to that effect! Muscadine is the appointed leader of them, and he is the one most motivated to answer this question, due to the fact he seems to be 'strangest' one. Fighting through their multiverse, Muscadine and the other Living Void kiddos will have to encounter various enemies, such as a group dedicated to eradicating kids like them, a fellow group like them, of course a Destroyer of Universes, and various others!

The Living Void is one of the top three stories! This is because I love my kids and honestly I love the intractability of it.

(By the way this description is so much shorter than the others because it's an interactive story, and details are asked by other people, so if you wanna know Muscadine's backstory, than ask for it if this story is chosen!)

Secondly, is Killer and a Baby, my oldest story yet! I made it in September of 2020, which is two years ago, and since I go by years and not months cuz' my brain's a bit lazy, almost three years ago. (Feels longer being honest lmao)

Killer and a Baby follows Sans in a post-apocalyptic world, driven mad by the death of dozens of monsters close to him, and watching hundreds, maybe even over a thousand other monsters be slaughtered by discriminating humans. Sans slowly takes the name 'Killer', and due to his new 'lifestyle', determination now drips from his eye sockets, and his soul can now be seen out of his body at all times. One day, while scouting out an abandoned city, he hears human soldiers acting up nearby and hides until they can no longer be heard. Killer leaves his hiding spot only to pass by a dumpster with a small skeleton baby inside. It starts to cry black tears like his when he plans to just leave it there, and he panics and grabs it. Later on, Killer shockingly discovers the baby's soul is also permanently out of it's body as well, but in a shape of a bright star instead of a red target. What an oddly similar child.

KaaB is a tie between bottom three and top three for me, since it's my oldest and I REALLY wanna finally flesh it out, and while I like making backgrounds, backgrounds are still super tedious for me and I also suck at drawing them sooooooooooooo,,,, oh and just as mentioned there's mass genocide so violence/heavy themes warning

It'd be tubular if y'all voted for it, but just know this one will take quite a while because of the details it'll def have.

Third is Glitch Dad, a more recent story I've never even posted about ANYWHERE yet! Due to that, I don't really know exactly when I made it, I just know I made it sometime this year, maybe mid 2022, whoopsy.

Glitch Dad follows Erratum, a sort of 'reincarnation' of another Multiverse's version of Error. That Error somehow fell into the void, and was scattered across time and space until two great deities decided to give him another chance at life, and placed him in a far of multiverse where he could finally be free of his forced destruction. Error awoke as Erratum, and decided to try to find other monsters (preferably skeletons) like him, his fellows. Instead, the first one he finds is a skeleton toddler, named Ragnarok. Throughout the years, Erratum does find fellows, but in skeleton children that were either abandoned, orphaned, or mistreated in some other way. Because of his slight resemblance to the Error of that multiverse, this giant version of him being still standoffish but quite kind was causing quite the ruckus in the multiverse.

There is seven fanchildren in this that I will include, such as Ragnarok (Hatemare), Meteo (OuterKiller), Somber (Crossmare), Kenza (DustLust), Starcross (Cream), Belladona (DustLust), and Mute (AfterDeath). If I am not allowed to use these characters, PLEASE someone inform me of this.

Glitch Dad is the story tied with KaaB for top three and bottom three, because there will of course be a story in all six of these, but Glitch Dad will be comprised of mostly memes and softness/fluff (AKA an absolutely ginormous traumatized guy being a nice/good dad to equally traumatized kids), so this one is tied because I think it'll be fun to make awsedtryftygouh

Number four is Bloody Buttercups, the second oldest story! This started because I like the trope of someone hurt caring for another hurt person or something similar to that lmao.

Bloody Buttercups takes place in SaveFell, an AU that exists for (currently) unknown purposes, all that's freely known is that the Sans somehow is in possession of a Determination Star/Save Point, and there is no Player in the files or anywhere. Sans is commonly bullied for being known as the 'soft' monster of the Underground (SaveFell isn't entirely based around strength/LV, it's based around personality and what you do. Strength is still important though-), and one day after leaving his post because he couldn't handle seeing humans from the surface enslaving skeleton monsters due to their heightened magic/strength capabilities, he goes to the Ruins, and sees the usually clean river streaked with fresh blood. Sans follows it until he finds the source, an odd skeleton monster with small destroyed wings. He seemed to have maybe fallen from the surface, somehow, but he had no chains whatsoever. Only odd clothing, ripped up wings, and the large skull of a bird placed upon his own skull. Sans decides that for once, he's going to act like the 'softie' he is, and with some struggle, brings the skeleton to his home to care for in secret.

Bloody Buttercups is one of the top three! This is because it's one of the older ones, has not too many characters, I REALLY like the trope/main character interactions included, AND, this story, when finished, could connect to two other stories that are included! I'm not telling which ones though hehehe

Number five, UNDERRINK! Probably the newest story I can't remember lol

UNDERRINK follows Frisk, a nonbinary child who is a selective mute, and resides in a rural orphanage. There is some good snowfall one day, and one of the other kids invites Frisk to ice-skate. Frisk doesn't know how, so they reject the kind offer. However, he does take the skates that are given to him. They wander into the forest nearby, but they suddenly feel the ground dropping. Suddenly Frisk falls under the ground, and she lands on a large pile of snow. Soon, she wakes up, to be met with a yellow flower, wearing a yellow scarf, calling themselves 'Flowey the Flower'.

UNDERINK is simply UNDERTALE but played with battle/competitive ice-skating in mind! Everyone simply has a skill and clothes change, nothing magic related! Oddly enough though, 'Sans' looks very different. He has a scar under his left eye, has snowflake shaped eyelights, and even though the story is a basic change, 'Sans', who prefers to be called Frost instead, uses Ice magic?

Oh well, you'll only know the story and why Sans is unique if this is voted for! (And, if this is voted for, and the story finishes, it won't exactly end yet :].)

I'm going to be honest though, UNDERRINK is in the bottom three, specifically the VERY bottom,,,, Mainly because I have no clue how ice-skating works GNEKGHWNAS so if there's someone who knows a lot about ice-skating and is willing to teach it easily to me that would be a w e s o m e , also I have to draw the entire/main points of the UNDERTALE game so this could either be the longest or shortest one lmao

OH! And, one of the characters (bet you can guess who lmao-) could (keyword, could) be included in one or more of the other stories, hehehehehehehe

LASTLY! Tunnels, my autistic arse's favourite! (but on the bottom three and I'll explain why in a moment-)

Also pretty new, but older than the last one!

Tunnels is a multi-perspective story following humanoid Arthropods, except Crustaceans, f*ck Crustaceans, no one cares about them right now. This is basically the 'bugification' of the UTMV characters lmao

Some of the main characters include Paint, the dragonfly version of Ink, Sun, the wasp version of Dream, Passion, the moth version of Lust, Slayer, the centipede version of Killer, Grimm, the true bug version of Reaper, a couple of humans too, such as Alphys, and even more!

Since there's so many, I couldn't possibly provide a story example of each one lmao so y'all are just getting this:

Each one has some sort of trauma, minor or major, and they're all dealing with this one detail- Humans have discovered their existence and that might cause a bit of problems, especially violent ones.

By the way, 'Oh wowie bug story!' Gets slapped in the face with some REALLY MESSED UP SHIZ. I think this is the darkest one other than KaaB, which is mass genocide and regular gore (but mass genocide is in UNDERTALE so um). So that's your warning if you're still interested-

The EXTREMELY dark themes warning is because when I was just awfully explaining the backstory of one of the characters to my mother, she had to stop me because she was getting uber uncomfortable with how gory it was, from me just t a l k i n g about it,,,, So U H , major warning! I didn't even really realize how dark this one is until I started explaining some of the story awesrdtfyijnmokl-

Anyways, this one is on the bottom three even though it's a favourite of mine is because: The story and world is absolutely MASSIVE. The large amount of characters require an amount of meticulous detail, and as mentioned previously, Tunnels is one of the darkest ones out of the six. It'll be fun for me that's for sure, but I haven't even fleshed out a solid storyline yet, it's just in bits and pieces for each character.

If you guys want this before all the others though, same as the others as well, totes rad I need a singular thing to focus on lol

ALRIGHTY THEN!

That's the six I'm willing to work on, this took about maybe two hours to write out holy he c K my back and neck hurts

PLEASE CHOOSE ONE! If you can't decide or if you want to list out your favourites to least favourites, PLEASE DO SO! Literally any sort of decision other than just going, "this sucks" is awesome ersdtyfiohjk

Have a nice day/night lads! PLEASE VOTE/TELL ME WHAT YOUR FAVOURITE IS!

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nochi-quinn · 2 years ago

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candela obscura chapter 1 episode 1: 🎶who you gonna call🎶

I'M HERE I'm just gonna stop playing totk on thursdays (lie)

background!!

matt!!

matt's scandalous naked wrists

oh the spotlight

oh auggie's art is good

the unintroduced characters being in shadow is nice

I need anjali in period dress forever

I'd vote for him

maybe even….president…..

ashley's face sjdflks

"I just GOT HERE"

don't keep ice atronachs in your furnace

the art camera panning around a desk instead of just the fade-in

"tol hat"

"as I expected" rude

laura noticing the light on her and perking up

murder hand MURDER HAND

voice!

art!

that is the correct response

donald :(

not the swamp gas

"who are you >:["

auggie (ashley?): mark me down as scared AND horny

robbie and laura already gossiping

"candela's recruiting fetuses now?"

void stuff

auggie is surrounded by posh weird women and is utterly unable to enjoy it

"we ain't found SHIT"

howard's kind of a bitch

she said the thing

"imagination!"

force hands

CHARLIE

"I don't think that was charcoal"

familiar (derogatory)

"well let's go home" mood

the more arlo talks the more I love her voice

"auggie's education goes far beyond book smarts" I love charlie

"did you need some help pulling that stick out of your ass?" I also love auggie

auggie is reminding of my kid when we ask her one clarifying question too many

I don't mean this in any kind of negative way, it's a totally valid frustration

"trauma bonding" sdkfjsl

calling panic attacks brain marks from now on

deeply enjoying auggie vs howard

not a chair

"we need a distraction. I'll go :D"

I love matt's Dumb Guard voice

"I'd love to help but I'm off flirting"

"I'm not very good at seeing things that are here"

"this is wood" dlkfjsl

Ghost Donald

"are you okay" auggie.

"you're so warm" that's. not great.

charlie

"it's FINE 👿"

"ROLL THEM BONES"

"I know who you are charlotte" lmao rip

fuckin leila

donald no. have you tried consent.

laura picking apart no matter what game system they're in

tiny magic messenger pigeons

Abodeless Individuals

ghost hand GHOST HAND

fable npc voice

"you're a bit older than I remember" "yeah, that's what happens"

oh bless her

mala: the circle learns about poor people

I was about to say "r.j. maccready vibes" and then I Remembered

roll for vibes

I like charlie as a bridge between the classes, as it were

"what's so funny?" "usually doctors are useful"

"rikers over it"

"sorry about the laughing at you" (lie)

howard has a death note

unecessary parkour

that one bit from arcane

can't wait for this ride at critical role land

"the children" howard

"help him, doctor!" AUGGIE

I'm a DOCTOR but not THAT kind of doctor I have a DOCTORATE but you can't HELP people with a DOCTORATE you just SIT THERE and you're USELESS

I may have seen treasure planet one too many times

this music is a+

charlie I don't know what you expected

mala: you're not his real mom

"I don't like the way you said 'great'"

oh ow

miroku

is this going to be the equivalent of trying to drive stick

"NO my sweet student"

not the final destination

fuck! all fails

vax get back in your own game

"you did it to yourself!"

mala: Matt: good rp. suffer more

"did it work?" "no! :D"

arlo and howard are A Pair of Characters

any time ashley does that half-lean shrug question thing

The Food Of Our Woes

hungry hungry ghosties

"you're bleeding out of your head"

not the chetney noises

oh shit

rip auggie

everybody keeps forgetting they can roll again

"SPOILER ALERT"

"leave it up to fate - no that's stupid"

robbie's so into this sdlkfjnls

old as balls

eddie? whomst?

"the gilded rainbow" gay as shit

"we were part of an industrial accident" swamp gas

"I crashed a truck into a building! it didn't work!"

"there's a reason he's a professor" it's bc he's a bitch

"don't set it on fire"

"your club tried to kill me, not sure if want"

in a few hours the sun will rise

gay

ah the true fantasy setting - free rent

"I slathered a nice man up" hate it

acted bizzare

they got a good grade at ttrpg

oh I love arlo

of course it's doc cochran

I heard the "mmmmakinmway" in my head

#candela obscura #critical role #candelatag #spoilers #crititag #liveblog #reaction post

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Waa thank you! I’m glad i’m able to give that feeling! <3

I am so so soft over the idea of Secondo needing you in so many ways. I love what you said about him feeling used and controlled, of him having trouble with his own personal autonomy. He’s not used to indulging in his own personal desires which is intensely ironic because this man is known for being a party animal and pursuing pleasure but maybe even that feels forced sometimes? Of course he enjoys it from time to time, but maybe it’s become somewhat of a front now, he feels like people have expectations when he goes out and perhaps he has his own expectations of himself. And after a while, it’s just… exhausting. I really like the idea of him in love with hearing your stories from followers about how he’s doing ;w; I can imagine sometimes during aftercare, he asks for you to talk; and you ramble about his followers while he holds you, and it soothes something broken in him he long thought unmendable.

Him sleeping on top of you unlocks something feral in me, the way you talked about him holding you around your waist and rumbling softly against you 🙏🙏

There’s something so sweet about the way you describe Secondo as you lay in bed together 🥰🥰🥰that’s another thing he loves about you; is the lack of expectations. I feel like most people around him would expect him to get freaky before bed, when maybe it’s the opposite, maybe him needing softness and to be held is something he needs, y’know? Like don’t get him wrong, he LOVES getting freaky lmao, he loves nothing more than pressing you into those sheets and feeling your skin slide against his, loves how he makes you scream his name; but he’s someone that’s dealt with a lot of harshness and expectations and control from the church. He likes being reminded he can be soft too, that there’s still a part of him in there that’s the young man he was before <3 -loveletter anon <3333

HIII sorry for the delay get ready for my depressive Sec HCs there are just my opinion but I got mournful so I really leaned into them

Yes yes yes!! How I see it is that he enjoys his partying, loves reveling in the "carnal pleasures" of papacy, but often wakes up feeling an emptiness that he can't place. This is mostly based on what he says at the end of Papaganda 2 after waking up and looking around like 'where ami/is everyone ;-;' "in order to stay sane, I try to remember the souls of the night, as I stare into the eyes of a new day." I think he just feels terribly lonely despite having so many people around him when he's out partying like that. Because the parties are fun, but they're not what fulfills him, and then he has to ask, in his older age, 'what does?' by the end of it all, which adds to that feeling of lostness. I don't think they are to fill a void for him, but I do think that he does have one, and I think it comes from feeling severed from who he is by the church, not so much in his character, but in his soul...

Ehehe okay I have a confession I am really bad at writing smut so I was like I do feel like things might get sexual when he's like kissing on your stomach or right after the bath but I'm so bad at that stuff and I always go soft with it I think still though like you said that he enjoys the subversion of expectation or perhaps the fact that he finally has someone who is compatible with in that way, where he can enjoy the softer forms of intimacy and love on his partner in a way that is as much about your inner children as it is about who you are as adults. They say that the reason we struggle so much with romantic intimacy is because of the inner child. The love we share with a partner is second in the depth of it's intimacy to the one we share with our parents, which is actually why we baby talk our partners!!! We are taken to a place of total vulnerability and softness, which can be deeply healing or damaging, depending on the partner you're with!!!

Sorry if this didn't give much to play with I got kind of Serious about it but I was thinking about it with him.

#love letter <3

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schlurp-schlurp · 6 months ago

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realised a trans guy i know hates trans women & children irl and i gotta say, jesus christ, i ????? idk what i even want to say, i just want to scream at the void and check i'm not going insane

dude came out like 8/9 months ago and i've ended up being somewhat of a mentor for him regarding wtf UK laws are and answering questions about binding, packing, etc. had no clue he was so vile / slurping up misinfo on the side.

anyway i was at the pub when we found out a mutual acquaintance is transphobic (he thought the other trans man was a GNC girl and that i was a cis guy, topic never came up before) so i was started to gently guide this guy towards less extremist views and just kind of like?? explain that trans people are people?? i was exuding a pretty chill aura and tried to basically hold his metaphorical hand and be patient.

anyway, i was fully expecting the conversation to be uncomfortable, but jesus christ it got so bad so fast because the trans man i know started expressing HIS opinions on trans people and hoooo boy. hoo boy. ohooooo boy.

if he ever has a trans child he won't let them go on puberty blockers, particularly if their future hypothetical trans child is A Female because "it's important they go through puberty" and went on a rant about bones????

he completely refused to listen to me when i explained that PB's as a kid require biyearly bloods and x rays and that there's 101 ways side effects can be prevented *if there are any at all*

he went off about how you can't know you're trans until you're over 18, but specified that "females, sorry, yknow, like biological females, yknow, people like us" (brother in christ, there is no "us" rn) actually can know they're trans earlier because their biology means their brains develop faster so they can have kids early, while "male" brains don't develop properly until they're 25 or older because ?? well, there was no weird bs explanation for that, he just decided that trans women specifically have to suffer for an extra 7 years if they need to medically transition or access any kind of therapy.

i bought up that this is literally the same talking point that transphobes are using to restrict trans healthcare in the UK, referencing The Cass Review ("what's that?" - HOW HAVE YOU NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS???) and how there are suggestions to disrupt the trans healthcare of adults between 18 - 25.

i also mentioned that, yknow, i knew i was trans at 13 and came out a month later at 14. hells, i would've known i was trans earlier if i knew what the word trans was.

he claimed that he *always* knows if a woman is trans based on her looks ????? fucking what??? bro. buddy. what the hell.

i rebutted this by trying to explain that for all he knows, all our friends could be trans. he won't 'clock' trans people that pass, so of course he's only going to notice the ones that don't pass.

it's dumb as balls - i know so many stealth/somewhat stealth trans men and women. hell, just this week i found out one of my mates is also a trans man LMAO, i've known him for a year and had no fucking idea. he also had no idea that i was trans until this week. monumental spider man moment

claimed that trans women are inherently dangerous bc cis male rapists can pretend they're trans women and advocated the idea of making trans people use the wrong bathrooms until they'd had bottom surgery.

seemed to be completely confused by the concept that if trans women are made to use the men's and trans men are made to use the women's, all those hypothetical cis male rapists can pretend to be trans men to get into women's spaces. plus they could just walk in, or claim they're a janitor.

he also had no fucking clue this would be enforced when i questioned wtf the plan would be. he seemed to believe that "you just know" when someone's had bottom surgery. how????? what????? dude, if you want to root around people's pants to check their genitals, you do you, but i'm quite happy just using the cubicles regardless.

he bought up transtrenders. i had flashbacks to 2016 tumblr ngl. hnnnngh why??? why??? ??? gods.

ironically, if he was on tumblr back in the horror days, he absolutely would've been called a transtrender and gotten death threats - like me! thank u random tumblr and instagram users for telling me to kill myself as a 14 year old wearing a flowercrown who was already being bullied irl and just wanted to experiment with his fashion style.

but yh, he wears fishnets and skirts and eyeliner - he absolutely rocks them, but like, bro how are you gonna complain about trans people not conforming to strict gender norms and how every trans man that's pregnant/wears skirts/touches a colour is a dirty faker bc they didn't immediately kill themself while you're literally rocking a GNC look?? bro. BRO.

on the topic of transtrenders - he mentioned a cis woman we met at a pride event, a lady with PCOS & facial hair - he claimed that she "wasn't even trying" to pass as a woman, and that he thinks she's faking being trans.

SHE'S NOT EVEN TRANS!!!!!!!!!!! bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gah. hells, even if she was it's still fucking stupid to decide someone's gender based on whether they've got hair coming out their face ffs.

said u shouldnt medically transition until you've had trauma therapy, and explained that that's why he's having trauma therapy, bc he wants to make sure he's "all good" before the NHS "rushes him" into treatment. buddy you've got another 4 years MINIMUM before you even get seen. i'm glad he's seeking therapy for his issues, but his experience isn't a bloody monolith for all trans people.

TLDR - i can't. i can't even exist rn. this happened last week but it's just been killing me.

#transphobia

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thelanor-s-astame · 6 months ago

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You're generally incredibly lgbtq+ friendly, so I have to ask, why is it that you consistently misgender the vessels?

I promise I'm asking in good faith. You trust me, don't you? I'm random anonymous person on tumblr, your most trusted confidant!

Very good question! And unfortunately with a good question the answer is a little complicated. But I'll do my best to try and explain Now I'm amusing that you're talking about how the Vessels are non-binary, if it's not, then I'm not sure what you mean. And if that's the case it's because I did not know I was misgendering them and legitimately do not know what you mean lmao But assuming the former is true. The answer is, because, at some point, I couldn't tell you when, but HKR became a different story then Hollow Knight. And quite a bit of that story is about the Dude Currently Haunting The Narrative, The Pale King In HK proper, The Pale King was *correct* about what he was doing. Moral implications aside, he did create void vessels that could trap or even destroy the radiance, he was trying to save his kingdom, no strings or frills or secret plots. That's what he was doing. The vessels are nb, because they are Void. They Were Built For A Job kind of like a machine. The Pale King just chose the wrong one. When The Hollow Knight started feeling, even if it was a little bit of love for his father, the machine broke. Despite it all, he was a good enough father that one of his kids loved him, and thus into downfall, and horrible tragedy. The Main Character Vessel, especially after turning the kings soul into the voidheart and being able to capture the Voids essence, was proof that the plan did, actually, work, it just took some more time. In HKR the pale king, spoilers, is kind of a Lying Bastard who is mostly interested in continuing his hegemony at any cost. He created children who he beveled were empty vessels that he could put anything into, that would continue to grow his empire. Charlie is not that. He chose a name and a gender for himself (and did for his compatriots too, even if they didn't entirely like it.) He was a person even if the world saw him, and constantly told him that he was a tool for his father's plans. (Big reason I'm lgbtqia+ positive is because I'm queer as shit myself, and so I got daddy issues that go STRAIGHT into the fanfic lmaooooo). when he got out of that he met several men that were kind, and caring, and honorable and he wanted to emulate them. Hornet did the very same thing except there were women around her, and that's who she felt most conformable identifying as. They're both extremely similar in that regard, but, like the siblings they are, took very different roads to the same destination. That's why I voice both of them! As for everyone else essentially immediately assuming Charlie and the rest of the vessels are male, That one is easy. Hallownest is a patriarchal society that used to be a matriarchal one, is bordered by matriarchal societies, many that it has subsumed into itself, and is, even after it's death, trying to assert cultural dominance. You know how it is. This sort of didn't really come up as a thing in the game, because the game wasn't terribly interested in that aspect of it's world and didn't really need to be. I'm just a freak about that sorta thing. So, I guess the main answer is, due to the theming of these two stories and how I sorta divested from cannon somewhere along the way The Knight is Non-bianry Charlie is not Now, does that mean that the other vessels might've been non-binary if they were given the same opportunities as charlie?, and charlie might be jumping the gun a little by just gendering them all as male? Yeah. But he's not the brightest bulb in the box. Or even thinking about any of this consciously. The only one who is, is Hornet. And she's only thinking about it in, like, an early 2000s girl power sort of way.

#hkr #hollow knight resurrected

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Can we please have more thoughts about Hollow having a strong maternal instinct? Because it’s smth I absolutely agree on. Smth about their patience and being that gentle giant characters screams “good with kids” for me.

I also think some of it is just leftover good memories of baby hornet. It might just be the projection but having a baby sibling at some point really nails in a positive association with kids for me, that I really think they’d have too. Happy memories of bby hornet zooming down the halls without a care def plays into why they would like and tolerate kids so much. They saw first hand a lot of key moments with hornet and I think that does really shape them, esp when their other internalized experiences almost entirely consist of “git gud to contain an angry god. Also you’re not a person.”

Side note: I once read a fic where Midwife teaches Hollow how to be a midwife/grub sitter for the post infection kingdom and I cannot for the life of me remember the name of it but it really opened my eyes to maternal Hollow.

That fic is Broken Open Revealing Hollowness and Vibrance!! It's written by my friend @vivifrage and is honestly my favorite fic in the fandom, so I'm always gonna plug it when I can :3

But lol yeah you can blame that fic as well for giving me the hcs for maternal Hollow, because I think that it just fits really well with them. They never really had a choice to become the Hollow Knight, but they did seem to want very badly to be truly hollow, and I've always interpreted that as them having a naturally protective/nurturing nature due to the presumed benefit of their sacrifice. We know that the Pale King cared for his civilians very very deeply, enough that he would ruin his entire family for their benefit, so I can easily see Hollow picking up on that as well, especially since their sacrifice working means that the death of their other siblings wouldn't have been in vain. So even if they failed in that end, them guarding whatever nurseries might be around in a slowly-rebuilding Hallownest would allow them to extend that protective instinct to the few remaining survivors that exist, and to show it in a manner that's a lot softer and gentler than fighting fang and claw.

And then, like you said, there's all the good memories they had with Hornet when she was small! Which likely opened their mind to being a gentler protector anyways, and gave them a soft spot for looking after the little ones. That, paired with the headcanon that the Void is more social than PK or WL on account of the vessels all being born from blood of a dead god, and you have someone who's primed to look after any grubs or nymphs that need watching- a young god who failed in their task of caring for the mortals under their wings, and is still somewhat incapable of fighting due to their scars, but can certainly curl up around a nest and make sure nobody gets near it while the parents are out hunting. They're terrifying enough that any adult bug would give pause before approaching, and Hollow's big enough to be a jungle gym for the babies that don't understand what makes a bug or not just yet. The lanky nightmare void creature that was made to kill gods and was sired from the union of three Higher Beings is, in the eyes of a child, just as valid for climbing as any other piece of furniture around them. And Hollow loves them for it!

(also lmao I'm the opposite the entire reason why I can't stand children is because I have two younger siblings. I don't hate kids, not in the slightest, but when you're someone who gets socially drained by merely sharing a room with one person, can't stand loud noises, eye contact, and don't understand irrational behaviors, being around children is hell. Which is why I prefer to write about them instead of be around them, lol, and appreciate maternal/paternal people like Hollow- their patience and tolerance for all the crisises little people have to go through is nigh-godly in my eyes. Much love to those who can manage children!)

#kids are better than adults they just drain my battery way quicker #hollow knight #the hollow knight #the pure vessel #demonicintegrity #see also: why i love writing pk with his kids #i can project all my weird feelings about kids onto him lmAO #i am the cat thats fine with sitting in a room with a toddler until they scream and pull my tail #then im running away and hiding in the bookshelf #or the shoecloset #i like childcare in theory but in reality if a kid starts screaming and having a meltdown then im going down with them #reply

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atopvisenyashill · 1 year ago

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@transdimensional-void

don’t apologize, i love hearing people’s thoughts! especially on this one, i was kinda nervous about posting it bc while it’s generally accepted that jae is terrible to saera (altho i’ve seen people excuse his treatment of saera smh), i also have alarm bells ringing about his potential relationship with viserra, daella, and gael, and i was worried accusing jae of csa was gonna be considered super spicy as a take lmao.

the "there has to be something lurking beneath the surface" is basically where i come down as well. i’m not sure if he necessarily meant to imply csa in the strict definition of the term (ie, jaehaerys actually does rape or otherwise sexually assault his daughters) instead of “just” the creepy control of & obsession with their sexualities, but i do feel grrm meant to comment on the fact that even “good” kings are hiding this really evil side of themselves and can get away with it because they have unlimited power at their control (and also dragons). the drinking in particular + aly & alyssa’s use of language that targ women are “for” a man, and this language almost immediately being used to harm them (with jae’s rape of aly & alyssa’s death in childbirth) was really what made me start to suspect grrm might want to call our attention to a deeper layer of abuse going on.

the fact that both twoiaf and f&b start with in character “notes from the author” about the political landscape they’re writing the book in makes me think he wants you to take note of gyldayn’s biases and the biases of his sources as well. that’s the main reason i think a lot of people (specifically fans of aly & jae) came away from f&b confused. they felt like jaehaerys isn’t written as the good king he’s supposed to be and “is this what grrm feels a good king is when jae is so relentlessly misogynistic?” but a) gyldayn is wildly sexist as well, i think he posits a lot of stuff as being positive that our main characters wouldn’t [like cersei, the based baelor the blessed hater] and b) i do not think jae is meant to be a “good” king lol and he never was! like we can definitely argue over whether grrm got lazy wrt some aspects of ruling in jae’s reign (jae is often just super lucky in battle ya know) but when it comes to jae needing to be talked into all of his famous “good” decisions by aly & barth or his general treatment of his family, i think it’s very much on purpose that he is a menacing figure in their lives.

ALSO...tbh yeah that makes a lot of sense re: them marrying back into the family. If Viserra had lived and had children with Theomore, any daughters could have married Daemon without much pushback because Theomore has six goddamn children to find matches for, he doesn't need his seventh for any political alliances the way a firstborn daughter would be treated. And of course, if he really wanted, any sons could always marry back into the family but that seems to happen way less than girls marrying into the family (altho tbf we don't have a lot of second and third sons that live long enough to marry lol). It definitely means that his daughters and granddaughters are still basically under his control (they're "for" him) even though they've left home; he still gets to have control over their sexuality and marriages like he does his daughters.

on a more sinister level, there's something about him not just finding husbands that are old and ugly with heirs already but also a kind of weird fixation of like, making sure his daughters don't like their husbands, almost. like, it stood out to me that alysanne considers theomore a good match because he was a hot shot when she was a child, never mind that she's a grown ass woman right now!! to me, it almost reads like jaehaerys saying "oh if you think i'm an old creep i'll show you an old creep" as a way of trying to reclaim his youth, when he was still a promising boy king and not an aging old man who butchered peasants emotionally tortured his daughters. it also means he still has access to young girls even after alysanne reaches menopause :(

patterns of abuse with jaehaerys

this post made me deeply depressed and i reread f&b which was my first mistake.

tldr i’m making the argument that jaehaerys definitely sexually abused saera and alysanne, and likely viserra and gael, and also i hate this man. if you disagree and want to say so *nicely* that’s cool but if you hardcore love jae and don’t want to hear criticism, maybe just scroll past bc i’m not nice to him at all (obviously, i’m accusing him of csa lol).

breaking this down by each woman, so there’s 6 sections: saera, viserra, daella, gael, alysanne, and alicent.

saera targaryen

If she were the king’s firstborn, or better still his only child, she would be well content. Instead she finds herself the ninthborn, with six living siblings who are older than her and even more adored. Aemon is to be king, Baelon most like will be his Hand, Alyssa may be all her mother is and more, Vaegon is more learned than she is, Maegelle is holier, and Daella…when does a day go by when Daella is not in need of comfort? And whilst she is being soothed, Saera is being ignored. Such a fierce little thing she is, they say, she has no need of comfort. They are wrong in that, I fear. All men need comfort.

that’s septon barth’s opinion on her and barth is always right. simply put, she’s a deeply neglected child who acts like a brat to get her parents attention because she’s learned the only way they’ll pay attention to her is if she’s causing a problem.

Before she was eleven, she was stealing wine and ale instead. By twelve, she was like as not to arrive drunk when summoned to the sept for prayer.

The king’s half-witted fool, Tom Turnip, was the victim of many of her japes, and her unwitting catspaw for others. Once, before a great feast where many lords and ladies were to be in attendance, she persuaded Tom that it would be much funnier if he performed naked. It was not well received.

stealing alcohol at 10 and being a committed alcoholic at 12 is not normal behavior. it is a sign of something deeply at wrong at home. also, the way she kind of, sexually humiliated tom, someone who is too “innocent” to even realize she’s sexually humiliating him…gives me the ick re: how she views sex.

Saera had learned the art of getting anything she wanted from her father: a kitten, a hound, a pony, a hawk, a horse (Jaehaerys did draw a firm line at the elephant). Queen Alysanne was far less gullible, however, and Septon Barth tells us that Saera’s sisters all misliked her to various degrees.

i don’t like this. nothing wrong with giving your child gifts (see ned going above and beyond to get arya not just instruction on how to fight but also a specific style that would gel with being smaller than your average opponent) but in conjunction with “jaehaerys ignores saera unless she’s pressing him for an expensive gift which he immediately gives her and alysanne doesn’t get why he caved so quickly” its an alarming dynamic.

also speaks to how isolated saera specifically was, that the only siblings that like her (aemon and baelon) are usually out and about, and there’s a clear wedge between saera and her sisters, even viserra.

The screams were coming from Tom Turnip, who was lurching helplessly in circles trying to escape from half a dozen naked whores, whilst the patrons of the house laughed uproariously and shouted on the harlots. Jonah Mooton, Red Roy Connington, and Stinger Beesbury were amongst those patrons, each one drunker than the last. They had thought it would be funny to see old Turnip do the deed, Red Roy admitted. Then Jonah Mooton laughed and said the jape had all been Saera’s notion, and what a funny girl she was.

again with sexually humiliating tom.

it continues with her friends. it’s not unusual for a 15 year old girl to want to fool around with other 15 year olds but alys and perri are all guilt ridden and upset and alys is with child. it reminds me a lot of cersei sexually abusing taena in affc. when she’s caught (now, mind you, she’s been marched in front of her parents sitting on the throne and not brought to them in their private rooms. she’s being treated right off the bat as if she’s guilty of a crime and not guilty of being a shitty teenager):

“She went from denial to dismissal to quibbling to contrition to accusation to justification to defiance in the space of an hour, with stops at giggling and weeping along the way,” Septon Barth would write. “She never did it, they were lying, it never happened, how could they believe that, it was just a game, it was just a jape, who said that, that was not how it happened, everyone likes kissing, she was sorry, Peri started it, it was such fun, no one was hurt, no one ever told her kissing was bad, Sweetberry had dared her, she was so ashamed, Baelon used to kiss Alyssa all the time, once she started she did not know how to stop, she was afraid of Stinger, the Mother Above had forgiven her, all the girls were doing it, the first time she was drunk, she had never wanted to, it was what men wanted, Maegelle said the gods forgave all sins, Jonah said he loved her, the gods had made her pretty, it was not her fault, she would be good from now on, it will be as if it never happened, she would marry Red Roy Connington, they had to forgive her, she would never kiss a man again or do any of those other things, it wasn’t her who was with child, she was their daughter, she was their little girl, she was a princess, if she were queen she would do as she liked, why wouldn’t they believe her, they never loved her, she hated them, they could whip her if they wanted but she would never be their slave. She took my breath away, this girl. There was never a mummer in all the land who gave such a performance, but by the end she was exhausted and afraid, and her mask slipped.”

What does Jaehaerys ask after all of this? “Have you given any of these boys your maidenhead?” Her response:

“True?” said Saera. It was in that moment, with that word, that the contempt came out. “No. I gave it to all three. They all think they were the first. Boys are such silly fools.”

Now mind you, Alyssa and Daella have both died of childbirth recently and her parents are mad she had sex as a 16 year old bordering on 17 year old, and not the fact that she like, at best peer pressured her besties into having sex and now one of them is pregnant. jaehaerys has only asked if she’s still a virgin.

“I will be married,” the princess said. “Why shouldn’t I be? You were married at my age. I shall be wedded and bedded, but to whom? Jonah and Roy both love me, I could take one of them, but they are both such boys. Stinger does not love me, but he makes me laugh and sometimes makes me scream. I could marry all three of them, why not? Why should I have just one husband? The Conqueror had two wives, and Maegor had six or eight.”

i keep trying not to give my opinion and just lay it all out but the thing is i’d just be reposting the whole scene because it’s just filled with so much weird sex stuff. if you don’t remember it, go reread it. it doesn’t feel (to me) like regular “george is bad at writing sex” vibes but “george is purposefully trying to skeeve you out” vibes but i am willing to admit i could be wrong and he really just doesn’t understand what he wrote.

anyways remember how i said saera acts out to get attention from her parents? all she’s done here is act out, her “crimes” are basically nonexistent; beyond how alys feels about being pregnant, saera consensually had sex with boys around her age who aren’t married, and then blithely compared herself to some asshole relatives. if your teenager idolizes dick cheney that’s probably worrying but not a crime! this is not how jae treats it however.

When the princess heard his words, she rushed toward him, crying, “Father, Father!” but Jaehaerys turned his back on her, and Gyles Morrigen caught her by the arm and wrenched her away. She would not go of her own accord, so the guards were forced to drag her from the hall, wailing and sobbing and calling for her father.

The king was angry and unyielding, for his shame was deeply felt, and he could not forget Saera’s taunting words about his uncle’s wives. “She is no longer my daughter,” he said more than once. Queen Alysanne could not find it in her heart to be so harsh, however. “

saera tries to escape.

This time the princess was not allowed to return to her own chambers. She was confined to a tower cell instead, with Jonquil Darke guarding her day and night, even in the privy.

Princess Saera watched from the window of her cell. Jonquil Darke, her gaoler, made certain that she did not turn away.

that’s as her dad is murdering stinger btw. is he a creepy 19 year old? yeah. but like, making your 15 year old watch you murder her 19 year old trust fund baby stoner boyfriend sure is something.

so then they sent her to the silent sisters where she’s beaten all the time and has to pray all the time and she runs away, becomes a sex worker and literally never looks back.

The truth did not come out until a year later, when the former princess was seen in a Lysene pleasure garden, still clad as a novice. Queen Alysanne wept to hear it. “They have made our daughter into a whore,” she said. “She always was,” the king replied.

“You need her as a Dornishman needs a pit viper,” Jaehaerys said. “I am sorry. King’s Landing has sufficient whores. I do not wish to hear her name again.”

but before we move on, let’s look at one more related ick, when saera’s sons show up to the great council:

From Essos came three rival competitors, grandsons of King Jaehaerys through his daughter Saera, each sired by a different father. One was said to be the very image of his grandsire in his youth.

after her drinking, acting out, and jaehaerys’ focus on calling her a whore, explicitly pointing out that one of her grandsons looks just like jae is a choice. i know they’re super inbred. it’s still uncomfortable in context.

viserra targaryen

alysanne makes no sense here but i’m just gonna quickly explain instead of lay it out or we will be here all day bc viserra’s engagement is completely nonsensical. theomore manderly is old, ugly, has a shitton of heirs, and viserra clearly doesn’t want to marry him. also if she wanted to be queen, why is she going after baelon, aemon is still alive. anyways jaehaerys is no help here, then she goes to baelon for help, but she’s also super drunk.

Frustrated, Viserra next turned to her brother Baelon in hopes of rescue, if court gossip can be believed. Slipping past his guards into his bedchamber one night, she disrobed and waited for him, making free with the prince’s wine whilst she lingered. When Prince Baelon finally appeared, he found her drunk and naked in his bed and sent her on her way. The princess was so unsteady that she required the help of two maids and a knight of the Kingsguard to get her safely back to her own apartments.

she gets drunk with some friends again, goes riding, breaks her neck. i wanted to point out this pattern of drinking and acting out at a young age. as well as this pattern of targaryen daughters who aren’t “meant” for a brother and are promised to men who are old and with heirs

daella targaryen

i wanted to add daella because her getting married at 15 makes as little sense as viserra, and her match to a old man with several heirs is equally nonsensical. but also this:

“I would never marry her,” the boy said, in front of half the court. “She can barely read. She should find some lord in need of stupid children, for that’s the only sort he will ever have of her.”

where did vaegon get that mouth.

Daella was not clever, even her septa had to admit. She learned to read after a fashion, but haltingly, and without full comprehension. She could not seem to commit even the simplest prayers to memory. She had a sweet voice, but was afraid to sing; she always got the words wrong. She loved flowers, but was frightened of gardens; a bee had almost stung her once.

Jaehaerys, even more than Alysanne, despaired of her. “She will not even speak to a boy. How is she to marry? We could entrust her to the Faith, but she does not know her prayers, and her septa says that she cries when asked to read aloud from The Seven-Pointed Star.”

The queen always rose to her defense. “Daella is sweet and kind and gentle. She has such a tender heart. Give me time, and I will find a lord to cherish her. Not every Targaryen needs to wield a sword and ride a dragon.”

so daella is 12 at this point.

Her sixteenth nameday was fast approaching, and with it her womanhood. Queen Alysanne was at her wit’s end, and the king had lost his patience. On the first day of the 80th year since Aegon’s Conquest, he told the queen he wanted Daella wed before the year’s end. “If she wants I can find a hundred men and line them up before her naked, and she can pick the one she likes,” he said. “I would sooner she wed a lord, but if she prefers a hedge knight or a merchant or Pate the Pig Boy, I am past the point of caring, so long as she picks someone.”

i just don’t like this. other “simple” targs are not required to marry, like vaella and aelora, two of daeron ii’s grandfaughters so i don’t get why daella is pressured into marrying before she’s even of age. at least jae 2 forced rhaella and aerys because of a prophecy? what is jae’s reasoning for so sexualizing his daughter?

gael targaryen

this one is definitely a reach but i’d like to point out that this is basically all we know about gael:

Princess Gael, a sweet, shy child of seven, became the queen’s constant shadow and support, even sharing her bed at night.

and our information on how she dies is so shady:

A sweet-natured girl, but frail and somewhat simpleminded, she remained with the queen long after her other children had grown and gone, but in 99 AC she vanished from court, and soon afterward it was announced that she had died of a summer fever. Only after both her parents were gone did the true tale come out. Seduced and abandoned by a traveling singer, the princess had given birth to a stillborn son, then, overwhelmed by grief, walked into the waters of Blackwater Bay and drowned.

how does gael get pregnant by a traveling singer when she never leaves her mother’s side? why doesn’t anyone in court know gael got pregnant and killed herself until after aly and jae both die and how was this even found out?

am i implying that jaehaerys sexually abused all four of his daughters? yes because he literally sexually abuses his own wife.

alysanne targaryen

“I am forty-two years old,” she told the king. “You must be content with the children I have given you. I am more suited to be a grandmother than a mother now, I fear.”

King Jaehaerys did not share her certainty. “Our mother, Queen Alyssa, was forty-six when she gave birth to Jocelyn,” he pointed out to Grand Maester Elysar. “The gods may not be done with us.” He was not wrong. The very next year, the Grand Maester informed Queen Alysanne that she was once more with child, to her surprise and dismay.

he uses the birth that killed their mother and that is condemned by rhaena and alysanne as reckless and cruel of rogar to force on her. that birth.

at this point as well, he had abused saera and daella, then they’re gone, then viserra starts drinking and dies, then jae marital rapes aly into having gael, giving him access to another young girl to abuse…i’m aware this is a very uncharitable reading of him but…

alicent hightower (and kind of alyssa targaryen)

Ser Otto’s precocious fifteen-year-old daughter, Alicent, became his constant companion, fetching His Grace his meals, reading to him, helping him to bathe and dress himself. The Old King sometimes mistook her for one of his daughters, calling her by their names; near the end, he grew certain she was his daughter Saera, returned to him from beyond the narrow sea.

saera is the one he fixated on yet again but notable that he’s fixated on his daughters as he dies and not his sons, despite jaehaerys turning to drink after aemon died bc he was so upset.

He announced his intention to wed Lady Alicent of House Hightower, the clever and lovely eighteen-year-old daughter of the King’s Hand, the girl who had read to King Jaehaerys as he lay dying.

The Hightowers of Oldtown were an ancient and noble family, of impeccable lineage; there could be no possible objection to the king’s choice of bride. Even so, there were those who murmured that the Hand had risen above himself, that he had brought his daughter to court with this in mind. A few even cast doubt on Lady Alicent’s virtue, suggesting she had welcomed King Viserys into her bed even before Queen Aemma’s death. (These calumnies were never proved, though Mushroom repeats them in his Testimony and goes so far as to claim that reading was not the only service Lady Alicent performed for the Old King in his bedchamber.)

i know it’s just mushroom being a perv but a rumor that 15 year old alicent “serviced” jaehaerys existing besides rumors that he mistook 15 year old alicent for the daughter he last saw when she was 17 - and viserra was 15, gael 19, and daella 15, all around alicent’s age and all died before age 20. all the targaryen girls that weren’t born “for” a brother exit the narrative after some sort of sexual abuse that centers around jae, as teenagers; daenerys was born for aemon, alyssa for baelon, and maegelle for vaegon before they both fucked off and maegelle was too pious (and too old). this idea of being “for” a brother leads directly to alyssa’s death before 30:

“You were made for battles, and I was made for this. Viserys and Daemon and Aegon, that’s three. As soon as I am well, let’s make another. I want to give you twenty sons. An army of your own!” It was not to be. Alyssa Targaryen had a warrior’s heart in a woman’s body, and her strength failed her. She never fully recovered from Aegon’s birth, and died within the year at only four-and-twenty.

and alysanne being “for” jaehaerys is how he excusing sexually abusing her into a risky pregnancy. essentially what i fear is that because saera, daella, viserra, and gael aren’t “for” someone, jaehaerys gets it into his mind that that are for him. even without him raping them tho, that subtext is there! he is entitled to saera’s virginity and calls her a whore multiple times, even decades after she’s left, and murders her boyfriend in front of her. he claims a weird sexual ownership over his neurodivergent daughter daella and his alcoholic, depressed daughter viserra, and we get zero information on gael’s pregnancy or his reaction to it. but jaehaerys deciding his daughters are “for” him certainly has a basis in canon just judging from the erratic and worrying behavior of his younger daughters.

jaehaerys is a creep and i hate him and i don’t know how much of this is on purpose (like, will aegon vi or dany find out jaehaerys was a shady pedo and it shatters their world? will dunk and egg find it out and it affects their plot somehow? did george just put it in there to make a comment on power and monarchy and misogyny, similar to aegon iv raping the bracken women? or is just there for window dressing creepiness, like “i will pepper in the fact that jaehaerys is sexually obsessed with his daughters” thing?) or if george just made jaehaerys sexually obsessed with his daughters on accident?

on the one hand, it seems out of character for george. he romanticizes drogo thru dany’s eyes but it’s clear he’s meant to be seen as a creep (dany talking about being pregnant followed by “she had just turned 14” is sickeningly jarring for a reason) and also, drogo dies bc of his own pride. sansa doesn’t like any of the old dudes touching her; she is at least marginally freaked out by her wedding night, the unkiss, and lf & dontos taking liberties with her, and rightly. the story that’s told about the mountain raping a girl and making the father pay him is meant to disgust us. the walk of shame is a harrowing chapter to read, because whatever cersei’s crimes, this sexual humiliation is not something she deserves. on and on. yes, we all hate the way arya is sexualized in the mercy chapter, but crucially, she’s not blithely and happily seducing these pervs, she’s going hard candy on their asses. is this just messy set up for something like that?? i think, given how little dany knows about her family’s crimes that somehow learning jae sexually abused (and maybe even impregnated) his own daughters after she herself experiences sexual abuse would be huge. the same goes for aegon vi learning that sexual abuse runs rampant in his family tree; would he empathize with saera hiding out in essos to escape the sexual abuse of her father, see some of elia and his own plight in her? in gael?

or did george really just. not realize how sexually obsessed jaehaerys was with his daughters?

idk how to end this. where’s the winds of winter george i need answers.

#replies #much to think about......and none of it is good lol #once again i'm super wordy. one day i will learn how to write in a more succinct way.#i do think some of this is also that grrm doesn't have any middle management in westeros.#like just one dude in charge of the entire treasury???? the hand doesn't have an entire political faction?????#the queen doesn't have any real lady's court??#irl viserys and daemon aren't just allowed to fucking freeload in the red keep you know those bitches would have been given government jobs #like queen charlotte and king george had a million kids and they put those bitches to work!! they were viceroys and governors and commander #why do no suitors put themselves forward for gael?? queen victoria was out here calling beatrice 'baby' for like 50 years but people still #asked for herhand in marriage even tho victoria said no.#the french literally had built in official mistresses. george u don't have to name all the jobs just mention they have one.#jaehaerys targaryen #gael targaryen #daella targaryen #saera targaryen #viserra targaryen #gael and the bard

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sandra screaming into the void about dres2 (with a side of almodovar film nerding added in for flavor and wordplay joke explanation bc watching this twice once without the subtitles and once with the subtitles is a trip):

i am a samantha apologist but i agree w diamante, i wish ariel had stayed (that being said, diamante my love, be smart, say that sort of stuff in confessionals, not out loud w the entire room, hay que tener una poquita de por favor de verdad), yes estrella has a point we couldn't stop looking at her but that isn't always a good thing even if it is what samantha does best

... pretty sure what juriji calls samantha is mamarracha in french when they're all walking into the workroom making animal noises (... or the lot of them, more like 🤣 which i mean.. fair enough)

the ariel joke estrella makes about cleaning the dirty clothes is close to the spanish equivalent of that saying about "washing your dirty laundry in public"

the wordplay supremme does before calling the pitcrew after introducing the goose game is bc chicks (pollitas) is yet another euphemism for dicks lmao (pollas)

sharonne's (wrong) answer was funny bc higo (fig) is a coloquialism for vagina (like eggplant for dick in english), the spanish saying is "en tiempo de higos no hay amigos" (lit. "in time for figs there's no friends"/"there are no real friends when it's fair weather") and her answer was "i don't have a fig"

ofc supremme is playing putricia lmao she used to do "supremme's diary" in the gran hotel de las reinas tour during intermissions when she interacted with the audience and you can tell she's having the time of her life, it's a parody of a trash talk show that caused controversy here (pretty long running it was like 10 years on air? the biggest controversy is that a russian girl was murdered by her ex after she said no to his marriage proposal in the show and the show was denounced pretty often bc it was on air during children's protected viewing times but it was, ofc, very much not suitable for kids)

at the end of the intro of supremme as putricia you can hear someone say 'pero usted quién es!?' (but who are you!?) which became a meme bc of this show (it's a vid of a guy telling a girl he wants to date her, her face says it all really but her asking who the hell is he makes it even funnier)

tortilleras (omelettiers) is an euphemism for lesbian so diamante, sharonne and estrella are calling themselves team lesbians (the other euphemism for lesbian in spain is bollera, which juriji said earlier in the episode when talking about being sad ariel left)

what the fuck was it with estrella and whatever was the black thing coming out of her mouth 💀 (edit: she said on IG that apparently it's supposed to be dirt from a snippet that got edited out from the show I can't lmao)

speaking of tortilla española, if you want to start a new civil war, ask a group of spaniards how does spanish omelette have to be cooked, not one of them will agree, in december one of my mutuals almost did start a war amongst our friends by accident when he posted this, another one of the mutuals decided to "settle" the debate making a poll. it did not help. but if you want to see the results here they are (and the correct answer is without onion btw <3)

sethlas is basically playing valentina in this challenge and I have to say it's hilarious and it isn't even jarring bc canarian accent sounds like an accent from latam, i liked this one lmao i think all of them were pretty good (i do however think that if someone would have been in the bottom, that'd be marina because she was sort of just... there), you have one guess for what does polla gorda (the name of sethlas' character) means (hint: f*t d*ck); and the joke jota makes about suppositories is not about jota herself but about the character sethlas is playing (why do the subtitles think she's talking about herself here idk)

when the subs say samantha, onyx and juriji are "the weird one, the funny one and the sexy one"... cachonda actually means horny lol

speaking of juriji, i am obsessed and i love you can ship her with half of the cast, including marina if enemies to lovers is your thing lmao (that being said so far my vote is for her and onyx)

the flan thing did kind of make me gag ngl but they did really good (it was horrifying but it was good)

idk if jota's shawl belonged to lola flores or not but estrella being a hater is really entertaining i have to say (also dancing flamenco with shawls is so much fun i automatically like it simply bc all i can think of is twirling but it's a damn a workout)

there are no words for how excited i was about the almodovar runway when they announced it and i am so sorry but you did click the read more knowing this was coming

the intro quote supremme says is a reference to an interview almodovar did around the release time of 'con los brazos rotos' which is a love declaration to cinema, ambrossi's intro line is also a ref to another interview (about being a young adult during the most hardcore years of la movida madrileña when drugs were rampant and everyone was dying for partying too much or the aids crisis), anna's line is actually 'i don't mind the genre (of the movie)' (not size) which i mean... fucking duh considering the theme of the runway and almodovar filmography (the word for gender and genre is the same in spanish); calvo's intro is literally the name of an almodovar movie of the early 00s named 'talk to her'

eduardo casanova (guest judge) compares ana locking to ana polvorosa (a spanish actress)... personally i think ana polvorosa looks more like lady camden (as in she's freaking identical) ((he became famous for playing the first openly gay kid character on the same show he acted in with ana polvorosa.. it's called aida btw))

the quotes supremme makes before announcing the runway ('existe alguna posibilidad, por pequeña que sea, de no acabar con lo nuestro?' and 'que heavy eres juana') are from the flower of my secret and kika; she also spoofs penelope cruz screaming 'pedroooo' when he won the oscar for best foreign film in 2000 (sharonne did the same in episode one when they're getting out of drag for the maja desnuda challenge)

ok now for the actual runways:

sethlas does tilda swinton in the human voice (which i have to say is freaking brilliant bc it's the one thing this man has made in english, it's a short film but it's the most likely thing to be recognizable for both younger and not spanish speaking audiences... besides juriji's penelope cruz look), the 'is that jose luis moreno?' comment casanova makes is bc jose luis moreno is a tv producer that was hospitalized bc he was attacked by two robbers with an axe in the mid 00s (yes the axe was in his head, the dude is almost 75yo, he must've been 60-ish when he was attacked, no idk how did he come out of that one alive, it's a meme)

estrella is the main character from kika and damn is that prosthetic nose identical to rossy de palma's (disgusted as i was with the sketch -which was the objective of the challenge anyway- between her performance on the sketch and this runway i was pretty sure she was going to win this week ngl), the judges make a reference to kika lorace which is another famous drag queen (she was the invited guest for snatch game last season), casanova quotes a line juana (rossy de palma) says in kika when she is on the runway

samantha starts the runway as lucia (the insane ex-wife) from women on the verge of a nervous breakdown and then turns into pepa (the lover of lucia's ex husband) which is probably one of the best known of the almodovar films? (it's definitely the one in which his films started to actually have plots for one... wacky plots but they at least started to have plots 🤣) and honestly? had samantha not been twice in the bottom already i would have been pretty content with it, it was well executed and she played to her strength bc this is what samantha does, her entire thing is changing characters and improvising, so she does reveals and plays two characters at the same time very often

venedita von dash did that, she's the main character from the 2004 bad education in which gabriel garcia bernal crossdresses for a film and it's fucking great (i don't remember what is the reference to calvo's comment on the runway but i bet you anything it was about carmen maura liking big dicks? something like that)

diamante merybrown is vera from the skin i live in which is literally the stuff of my nightmares come alive (thanks for that, pedro), if samantha got critiqued for being too simple i think the same should have applied to diamante, much as i love her (and much as it was time for samantha to go), both of them did a pretty close reproduction of the actual looks of the movies, although fake blood is always a plus (and a nice nod to the dialogue of the movie, THAT is the one thing that made it a safe for me but barely)

sharonne as marisa paredes in high heels is also fucking uncanny, the subs doesn't pick it up but ambrossi ofc makes the unavoidable marisa > marica (faggot) pun and casanova says 'oh damn eusebio poncela looks great', eusebio poncela is an actor that hates almodóvar's guts after working w him (same w carmen maura btw, she's always beefing with almodovar in public), this is brilliant bc in this movie her character is a famous singer that has a terrible reunion with her estranged daughter and they go see a drag show in which the drag queen's whole gig is imitating marisa paredes' character so she could be playing either marisa paredes or miguel bosé as marisa paredes

jota is andrea caracortada from kika; her character is the presenter of an exploitative tv show that focuses on macabre and bizarre things who wears very over the top clothes, i get ana's argument for the two tit windows being the selling point for that gautier costume design but i did like it 🤷‍♀️ (the look and 'the tampax ponytail' apparently 💀 i am sorry but i think that was rude af from ambrossi) ambrossi calls her alba flores on the runway (the granddaughter of lola flores)

juriji did that too, she's sailor pluto penelope cruz in broken embrace in a replica of vintage chanel and she looks like is a vision (i don't think i have anything else to say she's fucking stunning)

marina is zeca from the skin i live in which is still the stuff from my nightmares but given how many gender subjects are in the movie? fitting, marina is a huge almodovar fan but it would have been criminal for her to reference a different movie of his; her shoes are based on the poster of high heels (same movie sharonne's character is from); supremme makes a reference to the same lola flores song jota referenced in her intro line on ep 1 about being eaten by a tiger; idk if the 'what does she have in that bag?' 'her patience' is a ref to something else but for me it's a reference to a viral tweet by la vecina rubia, i sorta felt like she was just barely there in the acting challenge but i did love this runway (even if i don't think it's entirely on theme bc zeca is v much a straight male character not an almodovar leading lady so yay good for her)

onyx also does a look inspired by andrea caracortada from kika; casanova saying 'you won't film me anymore' is another meme quote reference (to isabel pantoja, a singer, telling off paparazzis stalking her home, it's iconic bc she basically left her house with the express purpose to beat some punks); supremme says 'kitt i need you' which is a reference to both knight rider the tv show from 1982 and a song called 'kitt y los coches del pasado' by ladilla rusa which a man called jose maria turns out to moonlight as a woman called mariví

that quote from agrado in all about my mother makes me weak i really did love this runway okay

juriji vs marina backstage? i live lmao 'no me busques que me encuentras' indeed (fuck around and find out); i in confessionals marina references 'donde estás corazón' which was a gossip show

when the judges all started to cry i wanted to cry as well; the lipsync song is a song from the movie high heels and okay damn jota did so good, samantha did what she does best but it was time, sadly

LA PROHIBIDA IS A GUEST JUDGE NEXT WEEK I CAN'T WAIT i've been waiting for her to show up on drag race since they announced season 1, she was the most famous spanish drag queen before drag race, i am so glad she'll be there next week🥰🥰🥰

watching this twice once in spanish and once with subtitles is truly an experience bc sometimes you can tell when they have a hard time discerning accents (it's not actually bad, just disconcerting bc it's close but it's not what they're saying like in episode one when onyx and samantha were messing around with the breastplates, they changed onyx saying 'my tuck is getting undone/popping up' to 'i am getting tachycardia' bc tuck is close to tach and the verb was jumping up which works with tachycardia, it really feels like them having a hard time just making out words sometimes because enunciation isn't really a thing in castilian spanish)

#personal #drag race españa #this is l o n g 💀#CAN YOU FEEL THE IMPACT HAVING TO STUDY FILM HISTORY DID ON MY SANITY #I HOPE YOU DO #rpdr spain #sandra's translator era

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error403hrd · 3 years ago

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[Image description: three figures are shown. The one on the left is floating in the air, he has dark tan skin and tons of freckles. Scattered on his skin are light green swirls, circles, and dots. His eyes are a bright green. He has an orange bandana, a light blue vest, an off white shirt, light brown pants, an orange strip of fabric tied around his waist, and dark brown shoes/short boots. Beneath him is written: "Waker, God of Winds, Age 10 (468)". In the middle, standing barefoot, is a boy with curly blonde hair and golden eyes. His skin is a healthy pale, and he's dressed in a dark blue robe with light blue trim, decorated with small golden hourglasses. Above him is written: "Sand, God of Reality, Age 12 (1728)". The last person has long blonde hair, flowing over their shoulder with silver clasps to keep it out if their face. Their eyes are a bright teal and their skin is a deathly pale. They wear a black dress shirt with a tiered ruffled skirt. The skirt's band is a dark purple, and the skirt alternates between dark turquoise, dark purple, and dark turquoise again. They're wearing high heeled black boots. Above them is written: "Phantom, God of Souls, Age 19 (935)".]

I drew this and i'm super proud of the skirt.

Phantom uses they/them, Sand doesn't care but defaults to he/him, Waker uses he/him.

So this is for my fic, the one with the super cool unreleased artwork. I changed Scribe's name to Sand because I changed the story to add in two more God!Winds

Here's a rundown of their powers and backgrounds and stuff:

Waker: When he died, the wind waker merged with his soul and Zephos and Cyclos claimed him and made him a god. He's more powerful than both of them because of the wind waker and the triforce. They trained him to use his powers, so he's the most well trained of the three God!Winds despite being the youngest. He can manipulate air in every way: he can make it solid, manipulate its flow, cause harsh storms, and even speak through it. He'll survive the merging of his timeline, Zephos and Cyclos won't. He's a bit of a showoff, and also rather childish, but he knows when to behave: he was a king after all!

Sand: Oshus shattered the remains of the Phantom Hourglass, killing himself on accident. When Wind died, his soul was spirited to the Inbetween, and he was confined to the Temple of the Ocean King, even when all of Oshus's islands disappeared. All that remained was an incomprehensible void. The hourglass chains him to the dais, he can't be more than five feet from it. Without Oshus he doesn't really know the extent of his powers, he can see all timelines, start timeline merges, and see the future under certain circumstances. Through the course of the story he learns that he can time travel and manipulate the sand itself into whip-like weapons and solid objects (which means all three God!Winds are capable of flight in their own way lmao). He has yet to realize that he can create false realities like Oshus, and consequently create false souls. He also has the ability to merge fantasy and reality, which would understandably cause chaos. He can also dream walk, but it's kinda useless so I doubt he'll ever find that out. He has a lot of mental issues, and he's tried to kill himself a lot, without success. He's the only god that literally can't die because of his job as the "timekeeper." He's very depressed and does his best to drown his depression in science and learning. It doesn't always work. He also has attachment issues because he knows he'll inevitably be alone again, but he can't help his gushing and talkative nature when around people he likes. He needs therapy very badly.

Phantom: When they died, their soul reacted with the Spirit Flute, a recently discovered artifact that they'd been studying. They'd been able to see ghosts after the Bellum debacle (all Winds can do that), and the Spirit Flute was in tune with their magic and soul because of it. One thing led to another, and Phantom accidentally became the God of Souls (thanks in part to the blessings from Zephos and Cyclos). Zephos and Cyclos did their best, but they couldn't really do much to teach them. It took a while, but Phantom figured out that they could change their age, physical gender, clothing, hair length and style, and that they could turn into a ghost at will (though the lack of taste, smell, and touch unnerves them so they don't do it very often). They can also tell when and how someone is going to die, and they can see every single memory and feeling that person felt if they wish (though the invasion of privacy makes them uncomfortable). They can change how someone dies, but only if it's a murder or accident, because illness and old age aren't exactly easy to fix. They also have the power to exorcise ghosts, but they only do it to violent assholes that refuse to move on. Their job is to make sure the ghosts can move on and do their best to hurry up the process. They've got a quiet maturity about them. They've been around a long time, but not long enough that they've started to develop issues (like Sand, though he was alone for nearly 2000 years, so). They quietly fulfill their duty, leading innocent children and heinous villains alike to peace. They don't really know what happens when a ghost achieves peace, but they know it has to be better than endless wandering. They're a kind person, but they've got a fair bit of sass. A mom friend, essentially.

So yeah. I love them all very much. My babies. Feel free to use them.

It's 4am....

#mine #my artwork #fan art #linked universe #lu fanart #oc #original character #lu wind #phantom hourglass #spirit tracks #wind waker

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quicksilver-rain · 5 years ago

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@crocophant Oh nah, I feel you, that's kind of a weird opinion to just shout into the void at approximately 7:40 am on a Monday lmao

Honestly, I think it's partly saturation and partly just that... I don't get it?

Like, technically, I understand that its a well executed piece, and like the inspiration and stuff is super interesting to read about?

But... it does nothing for me. I don't think it's particularly romantic or tender, maybe I've only ever seen really shitty scans, but I'm not crazy about the colour.

It's kinda boring to me, to be honest, and I'm honestly just real fuckin' tired of seeing it.

Which is fine!

It doesn't really bother me that people like it! I dislike a whole lot of fine art, taste is subjective and all that, yanno?

But I guess it's just one of those paintings that people go fuckin' ga-ga over it. I cannot tell you how many fandom versions of "The Kiss" I've seen, and again, that's fine, but like, there are a lot of other pieces of art that also lend themselves to that kind of reference in my opinion.

I think "The Lovers" series by Magritte is really fuckin tender, though I understand why people don't reference them much, there's only so much you can do without showing a person's face, I guess:

Mary Cassat did a lot of soft stuff, though admittedly it mostly features children, and doesn't lend itself to shippy fanart very well:

Renior has a lot of beautiful paintings of couples hanging out in their own little bubbles while parties happen around them, which is just, so good, even if they're not his most popular pieces:

Manet's got a couple paintings of couples hanging out that have massive potential to be good references for soft shared moments (look how intently he's listening to her!):

Egon Schiele has a lot of uh... Interesting nudes in his body of work (pun absolutely intended), but there's some good, tender, soft shit there, as well!

I'm not gonna post anything here, because it's all nudes and I don't want to get flagged inappropriate by the tumblr police again, but the pieces I'm thinking of specifically are called "Seated Couple"/"Couple Embracing" series, "Lovers," and "Two Women Embracing" which is honestly the most visibly sapphic piece of fine art I have ever seen.

Look him up at your own risk tho, because all his works are incredibly NSFW.

Also Egon Schiele worked with and inspired (or vice versa) Klimt, to the point that if you look Schiele up, Klimt's "The Kiss" also shows up in the results!

But to return from my tangent, there are so many other, really good pieces to reference off of that I guess I don't understand why "The Kiss" gets the spotlight so often.

The Expressionists (most of the above examples), especially, all have a ton of pieces with these soft, tender moments that I think lend themselves really well to being referenced for fanart or whatever.

Baroque and Rococo artists also did a lot of beautiful pieces that you could reference for all your Tender Moment Shipping Needs (though you kinda have to dig for Baroque pieces that aren't religious, and Rococo's defining feature can be summed up with the phrase "needlessly elaborate," but that's beside the point).

Here's a Rembrandt (Baroque) that I think has a lot of potential:

And a Watteau (Rococo)!

Honestly, I think it all really just boils down to the fact that "The Kiss" is just one of those pieces that I see over and over and over again, and its consistant presence in my sphere of perception made my opinion on the piece shift from a resounding "meh," to a much more visceral, "ugh, again?"

Which isn't to say any of the pieces I've seen referencing "The Kiss" is bad! They're all so fucking good and well-executed and tbh everyone is so fucking talented that their pieces are 90% of the reason I don't throw my phone every time I even think of "The Kiss," but I guess I wish it wasn't such a popular piece to reference?

(I didn't realize I had so many feelings about this? Like I get most of those feeling were just simple dislike turned up to 11, but I didn't expect to get so into explaining that fact lmao)

Random Aside, but boy howdy, do I fuckin' loathe Klimt's "The Kiss"

Like obviously a lot of people love it, and that's why it's referenced so often in art (especially recently, I've noticed) and that's fine! People have differing opinions and shit, but ohmygod I hate that fucking picture so fucking much.

#quicksilver rants

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ruthlesslistener · 3 years ago

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Just did the White Palace again to revitalize my hatred for PK so I have writing fuel when I realized that the object on the left was likely a toy box D:

As for the two things on the right, my guess is a dresser and maaaaybe a chair for PK? One that had been turned around and pushed away from the cradle, so that the person sitting in it wouldn't be able to see it. That might be a bit of a stretch, though, because all I really am going off here is the fact that it looks like his throne, while the other chair is obviously supposed to belong to WL. Then again, almost all of the storytelling directly involving the King's personality compared to the Queen's is environmental, so it might not be (for example, compare the Queen's station- a beautiful open area that used to be full of travelers, connecting Greenpath to the Fungal Wastes- to the King's station, which is not only a dingy little thing hidden away in the corner of the City of Tears, but also has a false entrance to help hide it. Then recall what Lemm said about him being a reclusive figure, lmao). Unlike the Radiance, who screams out her disdain for the Knight in most of the enemies she possesses and has few environmental or visual cues to her name, the Pale King is a character whose personality and mindset is set visually through the environment, so it very well could be his chair for the nursery, carefully pushed to the corner and turned away so that he wouldn't be forced to look at the empty cradle, and so those who walked in on accident wouldn't immediately recognize his presence in the room.

I'm also once again struck by how primal the nursery is, in a way, with elements from both parents coming into play. There are many hidden rooms in the White Palace that pertain to important aspects of the Pale King's life, but this room is hidden away directly under his throne, where he likely would have spent a great deal of time. Not only that, but it is a well-disguised tunnel (the entrance does not make the clicky noise that other breakable floors in the game do) that has one of his statues beside it, almost as if he is guarding it. Going in is very reminiscent of entering a burrow, and the nursery itself is small and dense with the White Lady's foliage, giving it the impression of a nest. I can't quite describe just how visceral of an emotion that evokes, but whooo boy it is not to be sneezed at. The King's regrets echo strongly throughout the entire White Palace, but this is the room that really shows you just how much sacrificing his children to the void hurt him, even if it's not something that he would likely have admitted to in canon.

As for the challenge of the White Palace itself- I've seen some people claim that it represents a bossfight against the Pale King, and I agree wholeheartedly with that. Unlike the Radiance, who is ruled by emotion and will rush into battle when challenged without a second thought, the White Palace mirrors its creator- its elusive, evasive, needlessly convoluted, deeply frustrating, and an indirect way to go against his will, which is pretty much exactly how he decided to fight the Radiance in canon. Unlike the Radiance's fight, however, I don't get that impression of it being a frenzied duel to the death, with both sides fighting for their life. Instead, it feels more like the Pale King's way of testing the Knight's resolve and willpower before handing his half of the Kingsoul over, like Hornet's fights magnified by a thousand. There's a lot of puzzles, there's a lot of frustrating sections, there's ample opportunity for them to just straight-up leave the Palace, but they persist anyways, and when they take their prize, they're ejected from the Dream Realm, with a narrator- presumably the King- naming their progenitors. To me, the White Palace feels almost like the Knight's chance to prove themselves to the King as a vessel that is not only worthy of obtaining the role of Hollow Knight, but the entirety of Hallownest itself. Only by showing that they are strong, willful, clever, and capable of withstanding great challenges are they allowed the option of forging their own path, with the Kingsoul being given over with nary a fight from the King's desiccated corpse. I don't have much canon evidence for this other than the fact that Hornet seems to mirror his role of training the Knight the way that he was for the Pure Vessel, and that the vessel leitmotif plays in the instrumental style of the White Palace when they sit on the throne, almost as if he is accepting one of the Abyss's progeny as his child despite denying that fact in the past.

As for what the Knight thinks of the King? The way they beat up his body and then sit over his corpse says more than enough, I think. The true ending of the game is all about breaking free of the expectations of others to forge your own path, so even if winning the King's approval is necessary, it's certainly not something that they were trying to achieve, and don't seem to care about when its offered to them. They will sit next to the people they respect when asked, they will give flowers to those they pity when given the opportunity, but those that hurt or betray them (like Millibelle, and the Pale King) get their nail and disregard. Both parent and child offer quite a clever way of establishing character purely through show rather than tell, and I love it.

#hollow knight #hollow knight lore #hollow knight meta #the pale king #the knight #the knight hollow knight #little ghost #pale king #pk hollow knight #hk #shut up aren #the white palace is so fucking goooood #and hk is such a good example of how powerful environmental storytelling is #you don't need to be told what it is #you just need to sit and listen

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