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yoi was cute but the russian yuuri was literally the only character I cared abt lmao. also that one guy's performance was rly gross 😭 it was also way too shiny animation-wise for me but the rep was objectively laudable and it was the only piece of media that ever made me care about a sport. when yuuri collapsed and cried at the end of his piece...yeah I felt that
#ppl were rly mean abt it honestly and EYE prefer mp100 but calling it yaoi bait was so unfair and dumb....#they were ligerally canon#the animation for the skating was nice but otherwise....eugh. I like grittier stuff#and the romance was like. fine.#ppl were losing their minds abt the reveal in ep8 or w/e and I was like. who cares 😭#but it WAS canon! I wish it had been more interesting and compelling but they were actually gay!#cor.txt
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I was debating on YouTube about Sasuke but YouTube deletes comments, especially those that have a link. It was also difficult for me to search for the publications. So I gave myself the task of collecting posts from all Sasuke fans and neutral critics of the work 'Naruto' that talk about Sasuke and his relationship with the other Naruto characters. I have also included my contributions, such as questions to other users and post responses. I hope this post helps you when you need support when you are debating in favor of Sasuke. Without anything else to say, I leave you the links:
Positive qualities of Sasuke.
Sasuke's chakra is extremely powerful, voluminous, and denser than Senjutsu chakra!
It is false that Bee could have killed Sasuke any time he wanted.
¡Sasuke has been shown to nullify mortal wounds with Raiton!
Sasuke is literally the first person to survive the Raikage's Liger Bomb.
All Sasuke received from Raikage was a small lip bleed, while Raikage lost an arm and another Kage, Gaara, had to intervene to save his leg and his life.
Orochimaru's "physical condition" has nothing to do with his ritual and Sasuke's victory.
Analysis Sasuke vs Deidara.
Sasuke killed Danzo; he did not commit suicide.
Are Itachi and Kakashi really prodigies at the level their fans believe them to be? No.
The only reason Naruto managed to hurt Kaguya was because Sasuke forced her to change dimensions more than once and she herself had changed dimensions about four times in total.
Because Sasuke haters say that Haku is simply more tragic and a better person than Sasuke; and Batman too!
What is it about Sasuke that provokes people so much, compared to all the other fictional characters (in and out of Naruto) who have done bad things? Gaara was killing people for fun in part 1, but no one ever complains about him not being punished. Zuko from ATLA burned down a village of civilians, sent a hitman after Team Avatar, and was just lucky that no civilian was injured/killed, but everyone adores him. But Sasuke is unredeemable for threatening to destroy the village?
A back and forth on why Sasuke is a much better realized character, with thematic and narrative depth, compared to Kurapika and Zuko.
Sasuke is the imperfect victim unlike the perfect victims of ATLA and Full Metal Alchemist.
Sasuke's character is too good for the Naruto universe.
Are people upset that Sasuke was going to let the Shinobi Alliance perish?
Sasuke as a feminist icon.
Sakura is a female incel.
Sakura is a narcissistic.
Sakura inserted herself because she wanted validations from people who were out of her league, that's why. She is perfect for self-insert.
The mere idea of turning over an entire manga in your head in which Sasuke hides a raging boner (at age 12) for Sakura is... repulsive. Don't you have anything better to do?
Sasuke never kissed Sakura.
The blow on the forehead is not the maximum expression of love.
Naruto Gaiden is a fucking masterpiece! It proves that Sasuke doesn't love Sakura.
Sasuke retsuden is not canon.
Sasuke retsuden is not canon, Jun Esaka herself said it and if you are a fan of Sasuke it is normal that you hate Sakura because Sasuke is unhappy with her.
Sasuke still considers Sakura inferior.
Sasuke didn't push Sakura away because of the curse of hate.
Sasuke rejected Sakura, Ino and Karin, he didn't push them away because he was afraid.
Sasuke is not in love with Karin and did not have sex in part 2 with Karin.
Why Karin's fans say she had sex with Sasuke in part 2.
What does Kakashi know about the genocide and the physical and mental torture that would lead the child victim to a fatal coma, at the hands of a family member?
Naruto is a narcissistic.
Why Naruto is the worst character.
How can anyone read the two chapter panels showing two very different worlds the characters occupy and be surprised by the way it ended? They were not going to reconcile since the world where Sasuke exists is the antithesis of the world where his former team resides.
Lee was never "good” at Taijutsu, let alone being a genius at it. The series' main theme, revolves around bonds. When the manga began, Naruto let loose Kurama (unintentionally) against Haku, breaking all Ice Mirrors that ... no Jutsu could break; and that, happened way back in the Waves Arc. How does that associate "hard-work" with Naruto's character, upon whom many poor souls project their misfortunes to feel vindicated, when two geniuses (Sasuke and Kakashi) in the near-vicinity failed? Naruto powered through this via nothing but brute force; and that isn't a precursor to hard-work. That's the exact opposite. With the beginning of the next Arc, the "if we work hard, we could beat all odds, too" trope lovers got their kicks from Sasuke's humiliation at Lee's hands (or gates?); but then they conveniently forget that Lee himself stated that what Sasuke accomplished was literally impossible for someone like him (he even emphasized on this argument). Gai even went so far as to state that even with the Sharingan's power, Sasuke should never have been able to do what he did (he literally invented his own Taijutsu maneuver from Lee's in a single day; if that's not prodigious, I don't know what is); and Gai, last I checked, is an authority on the subject of Taijutsu, not you—yes, you! Sasuke mastered Kimimaro's CS in under two hours whilst Lee survived simply because Kimimaro was dying and he literally died whilst delivering a death-blow to Gaara and Lee; so thematically, narratively, and metaphorically, Sasuke matched an adversary against whom both Gaara and Lee lost? That and Lee was outshined by Sasuke twice in a row, going so far as to undermine Lee in his own life endeavors that involved years of sweat and tears?
Shikamaru's revenge is meaningless unlike Sasuke's.
People who support Nagato but vilify Sasuke sound a lot more idiotic than they think.
In defense of Fugaku.
How does Sasuke's revolution develop?
Why didn't the narrative validate Sasuke's radical change from Konoha's Will of Fire to the Revolution?
Itachi massacred the clan out of conscience.
The difference between Kushina and Itachi is not that big.
The policies of Tobirama Senju and the Uchiha genocide.
At what point will people stop demanding Sasuke?
Tsunade was at the forefront of the Second Shinobi World War that massacred the people of Nagato, plundered their land's resources, and continued to use the land as a battlefield resulting in mass deaths, poverty, and suffering. A war that Konoha started.
Why do so many people still blame Sasuke for Sasuke's past?
Uchihas do not have mental illnesses.
Sasuke vs Readers without empathy.
Kishimoto canon vs Studio Pierrot fanservice.
The brilliant change of perspective and theme between Hebi and Taka Sasuke; and that there is no writing defect in the moment in which Sasuke stabs Karin to reach Danzō.
Tobirama never accepted the Uchiha as true allies like Hashirama did, never trusting them, something he admitted so openly that his brother had to warn him "not to continue pursuing the Uchiha." And the Uchiha weren't planning to kill innocent people, they were planning to take over the government itself.
Kishimoto is anti sasusaku and anti naruhina.
Kishimoto never wanted to write Boruto.
The real Sasuke fans.
Sasuke winking at Sakura was never happened in the manga, it was a translation error.
Sasuke didn't stalk Sakura.
#sasuke#sasuke uchiha#pro sasuke#anti naruto#anti konoha#anti sasusaku#anti sasukarin#anti narusasu#anti sakura haruno#anti kakashi#anti itachi#anti shikamaru#anti rock lee#anti tobirama#anti danzo
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My brief theories on hybrid psychology, biology, lifespan, historical connections to our world, and the possibility of other hybrids in the DMC world aside from the loser twins and Nero.
In Devil May Cry, being a hybrid is not exactly seen as a freak of nature but rather as something disgraceful on the demons' side. The reason for this is quite simple: humans are considered "food" for demons. Human blood is both literally and spiritually a fuel, an essential substance that feeds the demons. The fact that a demon has "disgraced" itself to the point of mating with "food" is a big deal among demons. A lot of Devil May Cry media comment on this—it's even directly said of Sparda that he "turned into a lustful monkey," because, in their eyes, humans are lustful monkeys. Worse, humans die very quickly; they're weak and fragile. You can imagine how much worse it is for demons, where power is everything.
As for humans, there is no canon information about their perspective that I know of. My theory is that some of the "demigods" and mythological figures mentioned in the history of the world are hybrids who were born on Earth before the separation of the two worlds, but that's a topic for another day. As far as we know, the hybrids that are on Earth right now are Dante, Vergil, Nero, and (probably) Matier.
What confuses me more is biology. Humans and demons are different species, even though they were once "one." And even devils differ from each other by looks, too. While Mundus looks like a human man, particularly Zeus, Sparda looks like a bug. Agrosax has both a female and a male body. But it looks like they can alter their looks and DNA enough to have a human-like body by using their demonic magic. And they can have hybrids, hybridity works strangely in humans and animals too.
In Homo sapiens-Neanderthal hybrids, only the female was fertile.
In the animal kingdom, female hybrids are usually fertile unless there is a direct biological problem.
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This is a Mule. A hybrid born from a female horse and a male donkey. Female Mule can only breed with male horses. Male Mule are infertile.
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This is a Hinny, born from a female donkey and a male horse. Both male and female ones are infertile.
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Liger's are both thought to be unfertile, but like Mule's, female Liger's can breed with male lions, creating Liliger. Tigon females are fertile, but males are not. A female Tigon and a male tiger had bred and created Titigon.
The reason for this is Haldane's Rule. When I tried to apply it to demon-human hybrids, I came up with something quite funny: Vergil shouldn't have been able to have a child. The Sparda twins are supposed to be infertile. But if we replace this with demon fuckery, we get at least the following result:
Male hybrid: Can breed with human females. Cannot breed with demon females. Cannot breed with Hybrid females.
Female hybrid: Cannot breed with human males. Can breed with demon males. Cannot breed with Hybrid males. A sad day for people with Vergil/hybrid!Nero's mother OCs because hybrids are unable to breed and produce offspring. Probably. Their partial infertility isn’t the strange part—that’s expected. Hybrids are known to have accelerated healing, incredible strength, agility, speed—the list goes on. These are part of their demonic heritage. But the truly fascinating aspect is how it plays into their biology. The human body can't display even half the strength of hybrids unless adrenaline is involved. If humans could perform such actions, our muscles would tear, our bones would break, and our blood vessels would rupture. Not to mention the risk of brain hemorrhage, blood coming out of the eyes and ears, or even heart attacks. The reason hybrids don’t suffer from these conditions might be due to their superior healing abilities, but even that explanation only scratches the surface. It’s directly related to the fact that they are hybrids.
The reason why Dante and Vergil can fall or jump from great heights (with Vergil literally falling into hell and only fainting, and Dante jumping off a cliff in DMC4) and continue on as if nothing happened is perhaps due to the high ratio of collagen, protein, and hydroxyapatite in their bones. This trait likely begins developing in the womb, as their bodies produce an abundance of osteoblasts. However, it would be nearly impossible for human women to survive such pregnancies. The human body would struggle to provide the immense amount of nutrition a half-demon child requires, leading to either a miscarriage or the mother dying from malnutrition and exhaustion. This could explain why hybrids are so rare.
How Eva carried TWO hybrid babies remains a mystery, but Sparda was likely-no, surely highly active during and after the pregnancy. Otherwise, Eva would not have survived, since there are six hours between Vergil and Dante’s births.
I believe that if a hybrid woman ever became pregnant by a human male or a hybrid male, her pregnancy would be shorter. Since hybrids are not fully human, their bodies function in a way that's almost like Homo sapiens 2.0. Their growth factors would be insane: -Growth hormone would be highly elevated. -their IGF1 would be mutated, leading to significantly increased cell growth and development -mutated CDKs would regulate the cell cycle to promote faster cell division and growth. -placental efficiency would be enhanced, with Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor doubling the blood flow and nutrition supply. The cyncytin genes would also be more active. Anyway, you get the picture. Hybrid women could grow and pack a whole ass baby in about 4 months and call it a day. This process may be even faster in Devil Trigger form, but Hybrids can't hold their DT long enough. What bugs my mind is whether female hybrids would have periods. I think so? But the duration and intensity would likely differ from human women. One day I will write in-depth about female and male hybrid anatomy but for now, this is enough.
Another thing is, assuming hybrids are not easily cut or pierced by mundane weapons, their skin must produce high levels of keratin. Keratin is a protein that gives nails their hardness and forms the outer layer of the skin (epidermis). The calcification—the storage of calcium salts in the skin—must be high. At the same time, neither Dante, Nero, nor Vergil have any scars, acne scars, blackheads, or blemishes. Their skin heals perfectly, restoring itself to its original state. The white blood cells of hybrids must be working like crazy lol. To put it crudely, when they get a cut—or any wound, for that matter the white cells ring alarm bells and rush to close the wound. Blood clotting (hemostasis) begins, then cytokines are released and after that the bleeding stops, what follows is tissue formation (Proliferation). This happens in such a short time that it is hard to believe. At the same time, as I mentioned above, the high collagen and keratin ratios of hybrids also prevent scars. It's really strange.
Another thing is that hybrids have a highly developed sense of smell, hearing and sight. In DMC5, Dante could smell Urizen from quite a distance. And demons, even hybrids, have their own scent. According to Dante, it's not a nice smell. That's my guess, too. I think the sons of Sparda are fire-based demons, considering their devil trigger form (I don't know what to think of Nero because his DT form is very vague and very humanoid. But he still can be a fire-based demon, considering Sparda, Agrosax, and Berial are prolly fire-based demons but none look alike). Therefore, the smell of all three could be like burnt flesh or a sooty, weird grotesque smell which I like the idea of. This is probably the smell of their demon blood mixing with their human blood. The hybrids smell must differ from each other based on their type. We've seen demons from the four elements throughout the series, but I think there could be more concept-based demons, like ‘darkness’ because nobody knows where to put these demons, so they just call them darkness or void… things like that. Even though we humans are the same species, we can give ourselves different names to feel special, so it's not surprising.
Hybrids also have the ability to sense energy. This is something we humans possess as well since we live in an energy field and are always in touch with it, we can feel the energies around us. It’s the same for hybrids, but their ability to transfer and sense energy is far beyond what we can ever achieve. It’s canon that demonic energies can bring a hybrid’s demon side to the surface, calling and provoking it. In Deadly Fortune, when Yamato is fixed/healed by Nero, Dante feels a sudden and all-too-familiar demonic energy that unintentionally triggers his demonic side for a moment. This is Yamato’s call. Dante’s demon side is provoked by her and, inevitably, by Vergil’s energy because I wholeheartedly believe Yamato contains a part of Vergil’s soul. They are inbound.
Not much is known about how long hybrids live, but they do age, as we’ve seen with Dante and Matier. Interestingly, Matier lived long enough to meet Sparda. I think hybrids outlive humans, and an average lifespan of 300 years, like Tieflings. I’ll delve into the biological factors of this separately another time.
In the Devil May Cry anime, there’s an episode about a devil’s sincere love for a human. This kinda confirmed my belief that there MUST be other hybrids besides shit twins, Nero and Matier. People in love sometimes have sex, and if they want to, children are born as a result. However, based on what I mentioned earlier, I’m not sure how healthy the pregnancy would be.
The character themes are the best source for understanding the inner conflict a hybrid experiences. Their demon and human souls and blood clash with each other, fighting to see which will come out as the victor. This is evident even with Nero, which is interesting because he’s only about 15% demon, having a hybrid dad and a human mom. It’s weird because, physically, demon blood is dominant, but according to the lore, the human soul is superior. Nero has so little demon blood that he nearly lacks the demonic smell (Dante in Deadly Fortune and Malphas in Devil May Cry 5 comments about this). He’s more human than the twins—a very domestic boy. His psyche should be stronger than the twins.
Dante's theme songs, however, are understandable, he is a half-breed, a perfect balance of two opposite sides. We see that these demonic urges are directed toward other demons, but I’m curious about whether hybrids have any violent urges toward humans. They are half-demon, after all. Demons are the predators of humans—Sparda himself ate humans before he awoke to justice. We humans even have cannibalistic urges, thanks to female genome transaction, our time cannibalizing each other has scorched into our brains. Human blood is not just tasty to demons yet hybrids are not berserkers or lesser demons with zero intelligence. They have a brain and a human heart; I don’t see them openly fantasizing about mauling or eating people. But I’m pretty sure the smell of human blood would be appealing to them. It might be like smelling a barbecue and thinking, “Damn, that smells good.” But maybe it wouldn’t be enticing enough to make them attack or eat people. You wouldn't want to eat an alive cow while it stands there cowly, eating grass. You may even interact with it in a nonaggressive way. That’s how I think hybrids would act towards humans if they were in control. Yeah, IF. Returning to Sparda Kin’s theme songs, the inner conflict of a hybrid makes sense with what I’ve said earlier. When you lose control and your demonic side takes over, you essentially leave part of your human consciousness in the hands of an apex predator. In such moments, you could harm those you love or innocent people, or commit worse acts. In the Bible, Nephilim are said to eat humans. This is, of course, a biased point of view, assuming that Abrahamic religions derive their sources from ancient records. But these Nephilim (hybrids) are not all the same; they are all different from each other and this is proven by science, human hybrids and animal hybrids are always different. It is also said that Nephilim are immortal, but there is no explicit mention that they are truly immortal; they simply die. However, the existence of man-eating Nephilim might suggest that some hybrids would indeed have a desire to eat humans. By the way, Nephilim are directly related to our world and the DMC hybrid concept—giants. Hybrids result from the mating of Annunaki people left on Earth with humans.
And don't even get me started on the creepy similarity between the Annunaki legend and Sparda and Mundus. :l
Well, uhh, that's all. I didn't touch on everything I wanted to touch on, but this post would be too long if I let myself go. Have a good day!
#i wish i could examine a hybrid im so curious about them#i want it so BAD. they are so weird my teeth itches#dmc#devil may cry#vergil#dmc vergil#dante#dmc dante#nero#dmc nero#dmc headcanons#dmc meta
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Pros of Todomomo:
poc4poc t4t bi4bi autistic4autistic
Shouto and Momo are both canonically cat people and probably go on cat cafe dates together
Momo is taller than Shouto when they grow up(look at the slight height she has over him in the epilogue)
Shouto is the founder of the Momo Hype And Protection Club
Momo constantly verbalizes with no filter how much she loves Shouto just like he does her to break the one-sided het trope curse
Matching sweaters
Goth bf x Pastel gf
Tea lovers so please don't try to tell me they don't make all kinds of tea together,you'll look like BooBoo The Fool
They never got to be real kids so they can discover how to as a team just like they're thee bnha power couple
Boy who only knew the scorching heat of summer and merciless coldness of winter falls for the girl who embodies the soft gooeyness gentless of spring and cozy earthy sweetness of autumn
Girl who had everyone ignore her emotional and even physical needs to an extent growing up falls for boy who messed up one once on complete accident and did a speech in public proclaiming his love admiration for her followed up by looking out for her nonstop even when it inconviences him
Double dates with Minajirou
Red x blue and pink x black
Ghibli movie marathons,picnics far away from the city so they can appreciate nature and monthly homemade care packages
Shouto writing out his feelings for Momo in secret poems and it not hitting until years down the line they were romantic poetry
Momo using 'Anata' for Shouto as soon as they start dating
They look like a peppermint candy and a moon pie as gijinka ship art
Them being hardcore Mcr fans and Momo actually getting Shouto into them
Nonsexual intimacy to the max
Dabi trying to use Momo to get at Shouto by radicalizing her but he ends up genuinely loving her as a little sister and a pseudo-daughter and she sees him as an older brother and a pseudo-dad so he's like 'Well.......Maybe i don't wanna burn the whole world down to spite my dad anymore.I love Peaches more than i hate anyone.Fine,i'll go into rehabilitation but only if you cunts let her visit me every day'
They also take him out for froyo and he teaches Shouto anarchism/direct action too and Momo calls Shouto and Dabi 'her boys' and they give her scary liger and scary panther privileges(also stickerbombs on her face and everything she asks for before she even has time to blink)
Cons of Todomomo:
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There aren't any,Todomomo is literally the perfect otp
#todomomo#t4t todomomo#todomomo supremacy#todoroki shouto#momo yaoyorozu#dabi#s'mores siblings#group:freezerburn wonder woman and jason todd#dadbi#half bangladeshi rei agenda#blasian latina momo#genderfluid todoroki#trans momo yaoyorozu#partially blind todoroki#fat momo yaoyorozu#goth punk todoroki shouto#ocd todoroki#autistic todoroki#pastel punk momo yaoyorozu#autistic momo yaoyorozu#adhd momo#momo yaoyorozu has ocd#trans dabi#autistic dabi#cluster b dabi#cpunk dabi#bnha geekery#our hero academia#💌#summerposting
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I have no context for liger pups. Is sacker someone we are meant to know, or is it spoilers?
. . . I apologize in advance for how long I let this explanation get, lol.
Sacker is a minor antagonist from the arc that this WIP is a canon divergence of, and he's one of the beast-men in the Wild Lands. Specifically, he is a giant old snake dude who runs a huge storehouse/trading post/fortress type thing, and he was the guy who initially enslaved and drugged Kon into his feral/depowered state when he crash-landed in the Wild Lands after Sacker also, like, literally shot him out of the sky. He does that to literally every single human who washes up on shore, because he is the only person in the Wild Lands who has ever actually met a human who was in their right mind and after that experience he immediately decided that humans should not be allowed to have their right minds anymore.
In his defense: HUMANS.
The mark Panthera is referencing Kon drawing is Sacker's slave mark, which he puts on all his humans via differently-shaped pendants. Kon's version of it looked a bit like the S-shield, so Kon was attached to it when he was feral and wouldn't originally let Sacker take it back. See: below. Therefore, Panthera doesn't realize he is actually NOT drawing Sacker's mark.
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In the original arc (it's like issues 50-54 of Kon's OG solo title, I belieeeeeve it's called "Last Boy On Earth" or something like that), he agreed to sell Superboy to Prince Tuftan in exchange for a historical artifact, as long as Tuftan agreed to keep giving Superboy regular doses of his serum. At the time Tuftan did not know humans were actually, like, PEOPLE, and thought he was just agreeing to sedate a wild animal to keep it controllable. Superboy was a few days out from his last dose of serum, though, and when Tuftan forgot to bring the drugs to put into his dinner and a mercenary attacked the king while he ran back for them, Superboy got his adrenaline up enough to burn through enough of the remaining drugs to remember how to talk and also, like, break his restraints and smash said mercenary through a wall, which kiiiiinda blew the lid off the whole "totally just a wild animal" lie. This AU is one where Tuftan did not forget to bring the drugs, and Superboy has as a result been in the Wild Lands ever since.
Issue 50 of that run was actually the first Superboy comic I ever read and my first introduction to the character, so I have a serious soft spot for the arc and I just could NOT resist writing something related to it when I got enabled to, haha.
For the record, this is Sacker:
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And THESE are Tuftan and Tawna:
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And they totally introduced themselves to Kon as a couple by making out literally a foot away from him while Tuftan had him tied up and collared on a leash AND on his knees.
Look, if I were feral(and-definitely-repressed-bisexual-probably-also-a-furry-by-now-lbr)!Kon, I would ALSO pick being a pet to the buff and noble tiger-prince who wanted to give me to his badass scantily-clad lioness fiancee over being enslaved by the morally dubious prick who shot me, drugged me, AND stole my sick leather jacket. Like, no question!! No question whatsoever!!!!
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A fourth child?! Manjushri must be happy.
Mr Chen and his wife, and Faming are also happy xd. Who does this new tiger/lion cub look more like? Will the new cub be closer to his grandfather Manjushri?
Tripitaka and Azure don't waste their time, they are real cats in love.
Hypothetical question. If the cubs traveled to LMK's dimension and found Azure LMK and the lion had to take care of them, what would the lion do? What if the lion had kidnapped Tripitaka? How would Tripitaka react? Their children have just arrived from another dimension, their faces must be immortalized.
Prev.
Meng Huan is certainly a surprise! Not just to the parents, but to everyone else since it confirms that Tripitaka has certainly broken his vow of chastity! He can't blame it on the Mother-Child River this time. XD
Out of the grandparents; Meng Huan doesn't really have a favourite. Gonggong Chen and Popo Yin dote on the little girl since they were able to be present at her birth. And while Manjushri does have a little bit of favouritism for Meng Huan being is the most like his dear disciple - the dreamy cub has trouble listening to Manjushri and Fa Ming's teachings. Will fall asleep mid-lesson, not unlike the Golden Cicada themselves. XD
Of the parents, Meng Huan looks more like Azure - having his more prominent nose, wild (albeit blue-grey) mane, and purple eyes. She's the tallest of the cubs due to being a full liger - and therefore just kept growing.
In the case of "Dimension-Travelling Cubs" ending up in the canon LMKn universe;
Azure takes one look at the four cubs who fell out of a portal in front of him and smiles warmly. He doesn't immediately see them for what they are, but he's glad to see healthy little demons running around testing their magic.
Until he smells them.
They smell nearly *exactly* like him and a mixture of someone else. He also smells his former brother Sun Wukong upon them, though not as strongly - as if he were a pride member of theirs.
The four cubs run to him shouting "BABA!", clinging to his legs and rambling about how they were messing around in "Brother Wukong's" treasury and touched something they shouldn't, and all they could think to do was to open a portal home.
Azure quickly scoops up the cubs and brings them into the palace, much to the confusion of Peng and Yellow Tusk.
The lion is playing it cool. He certainly hasn't had a mate in forever, and he doubts there's any other blue-furred lion that he could be mistaken for. Clearly this is a case of time travel or dimension hopping.
Azure: "Children, do you know where you are?" Wenhou, confused: "Camel Ridge? We live here when we come home to see you, Baba!" Tangzi: "Baba's losing his memory." Boguang, worried: "Oh no! Was that what that mirror did!?" Azure, warm laugh: "No, no, children. I'm just trying to make sure you haven't lost your memories... is the rest of your family around?" Wenhou: "We were playing in Eldest Brother Wukong's treasury while him, Mama, Uncle Wujing, and Macaque were having tea together. Bajie is still with Auntie Cuilian, and Uncle Ao Lie had to go to his home to deal with something royal and boring. Boguang: "Uncle Bull and Auntie Tieshan were going to come to dinner too. Eldest Brother said they had good news about something." Tangzi: "I hope it isn't a baby. Mama said he had good news once and now we have stinky." (*Tangzi points to the youngest cub, who's barely at toddling age*) Meng Huan: (*blows raspberry at hir*) >:p Azure, tail swaying excitedly: "Mama?"
Azure isn't exactly telling the cubs that they're in another space-time yet, since he really wants to know who their "mama" is and see who captured his heart enough to bare children with him.
The fact that Wukong, Bull, and even Macaque somehow are involved somehow is even more intriguing.
Azure likely does his "Pretending to be the King of Wuji" trick just to meet the Pilgrims and find out *who* his dear mate is. The cubs are are kept nearby to confirm.
Azure is however... a little surprised when he meets the cubs' "Mama" in person for the first time.
Azure: "You're... not a demon." Tripitaka, confused: "I am not? I was transformed for a time, but I do not understand why that would become common knowledge." Azure: "Wait, were you born a demon and then became divine?" Tripitaka: "No, I was transformed into a demonic tiger very briefly by Kui Mulang. Wukong broke the curse with help from Guanyin." Azure, disappointed: "Aww." :(
To learn that the only thing that stops the Great Monk from becoming his mate and mother to his children is his humanity, Azure would immediately have the thought of "Well... thats not much tbh. He's still a cute little human."
Meanwhile; Tripitaka is screaming like the cicada he truly is cus: "I would have broken my vow!? And children!?! Why would I have children!? My journey is too long and dangerous for such a thing!" Meanwhile the cubs are clinging to his robes, still wanting comfort from their parent despite it being clear that this isn't the "real" him.
Just as Wukong and the rest of the Pilgrims are trying to figure out how to send the cubs back to their own world - Azure gets the bright idea to kidnap Tripitaka. Demonic courtship afterall. If he can show the Tang Monk how good a mate he can be, maybe he'll like him in this world too?
The Pilgrims and the Brotherhood are forced to play nice for a bit in order to deal with the lovesick lion, the mortified monk, and the homesick children from another dimension.
#tiger monk au#lmk fan children#lmk azure lion#lmk tripitaka#lmk tang sanzang#lmk tang#lmk the brotherhood#lmk aus#lmk#lego monkie kid
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Last night I dreamed that spn s16 finally got picked up by a streaming service. It was one of those 6-episode seasons and they kinda did a fix-it, BUT although Cas was back and having adventures with the winchesters and eye fucking Dean as per usual, the confession was never acknowledged or hinted at. But their relationship seemed softer (?) somehow less tense and repressed, but no one could really pinpoint why bc technically nothing had changed in their interactions.
But THEN it got leaked that they had actually filmed a TON of canon destiel scenes that for some mysterious reason didn't make it to the final cut. I'm taking four-hand-holding spirk style, Cas resting his head in Dean's shoulder while they were sitting on a couch, them coming out of the same room in the morning, references to them growing old together without Sam. Their hugs ligered for longer and were less aggressive, hands actually resting on each other's backs and not just slapping in a manly™️ way. There even was an "y yo a ti" reference!! Dean responded to something plot-relevant that Cas said with "and I, you" and a sly wink (in a close up of his face so it was really meant to be him winking at the audience).
It still wasn't acknowledged "explicitly". There was no soft nor sloppy old men kiss. There was no "about that goodbye" talk. So a lot of antis were holding on to that. And when they conceded that maybe all of that cut footage could have been considered as reciprocal destiel confirmation, it wasn't actually canon so it didn't count.
We were going even MORE insane than we are now. It was all so clearly there. We could have FINALLY had it all. But yet, somehow, #theysilencedthemAGAIN. And we couldn't even blame it on the homophobic network anymore. I'm taking Nov 5th and Nov 25th levels of insanity. The memes were fire. "They don't know about the market research" kind of insane but now it was "They don't know about the cut Canon destiel scenes".
#and then i woke up#lol#for your entertainment#destiel#deancas#spn s16#canon destiel#casdean#y yo a ti cas#nov 5th#cut Canon destiel scenes that live in my brain my beloved <3#Secret good spn#spn fix-it#s16
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Hiii!! So I saw your art of Yona Yona and he looks so fucking cool 😍😍😍 I'm desperately curious and noisy af so I hope it's okay if I ask a couple questions?
Like he's the one who made the fake vongola rings (love how you filled that plothole (?) btw that's awesome) so is he a jewellry maker? (is that even a word? I don't have to vocab for this, just blacksmith but for jewellery?)
Also you said he's a menace to society, so I assume he's chaotic? On scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being an angel that would do no wrong and 10 being "I've blown up a city block and I would do it again" what would you rate him chaos wise?
sorry for just randomly sliding into your inbox 😂 but I couldn't help myself 👉🏼👈🏼
Omg, thank you for taking interest in my skrunkly little man!
For context: I am the CEO of (moon) Bunny x (sun) Lion Oc x Canon ships and because Xanxus is out there with his Lion/Liger box weapon, I was like: "he needs a bunny boyfriend to knock him down a few hundred pegs"
Hence, Mr Yona Yona here. I thought it'd be cute to have a Y motif/name character for the X motif character too LOL.
I am rewatching KHR with two friends and when the fake Vongola rings got brought up, I was sat there wondering WHO THE FUCK could've made perfect replicas? I was already thinking of making an OC so I had the idea of filling that plot hole.
At the moment, Yona has the mist/cloud flames attribute. Regardless, he has the ability to essentially copy and paste any solid object with his mallet/hammer. (he can't copy/paste living things though like humans and animals) It just costs a LOT of energy depending on how intricate the object is.
Eg. Duplicating money isn't much of an issue , that's mostly how he gets by. But if he tried to duplicate something like the rings or the ten year bazooka, he'd be out for a few hours / or days.
I need to brush up on my KHR flame lore (looks at shimon arc's flames and ugly cries at my memory) but I am the rabbit/moon OC maker ever so I've been trying to cook up a Moon Flame for him to possess too. Maybe it's a branch of flame of night or something idk, I really need to study the flames again HAHA
As for being a menace- He 'TRIES' to be lowkey because the mafia crowd are after him to take advantage of his ability. Cause imagine being able to perfectly duplicate deadly weapons. Yikes. But he also hates the mafia so if he is cornered and he gets the chance, yeah, he'd cause problems ON PURPOSE and make things worse for them and himself out of sheer pettiness LOL
So I think on the scale it'd be like an 8. He'd blow up a city if it means he could make the mafia that are after him groan in despair.
ALSO I should add, his backstory is that: he was involved in the same experiment Mukuro, Ken and Chikusa were in and as a result, he ended up with this copy/paste ability. They were basically using him to mass produce possession bullets until one day he just copy/pasted the master keys of the lab and made a run for it.
He's been on the run since and has BEEF with Xanxus after the whole fake vongola ring incident. He's kinda on the hit list because he's potential danger anyways but he doesn't pass up the chance to mock the Varia w
SORRY FOR THIS DUMP , I hope it's coherent . . .
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this come out of nowhere really, I just can't get myself to sleep without sharing this but why in all time travel fanfic. sephiroth seems to be extra aware of his status of " experiment " ??? it just, I don't know. I don't say that sephiroth or even genesis and angeal are stupid but it's strange to me that they seem extremely aware about it in those fanfic. when in crisis core, that piece of Informations seems to be new to them. i mean, do I just see the wrong issue? the way they learn that they are experiment choked them to the core. none of them reacted well? sephiroth just thought that he was special he said it himself.
maybe he lied to himself or the company and hojo did not treat him like we thought they did , at least outside of those experiment. so I find it weird when I read fanfiction that the big 3 already knows and acknowledged it, when that information was one of the big reveal and issues of crisis core.
also sephiroth not technically being 100 % aware of his experiment status means that most of us write hojo extremely wrong when he interacted with sephiroth. I mean, I don't know he seems to snob every one but sephiroth. in ff7, he was just weird, extremely fixed on sephiroth.
or maybe I interpreted it the wrong way ? maybe I am just stupid I don't know. I don't want to say something stupid.
I don’t think this is stupid at all and you are definitely not stupid, lovely! No one is stupid for expressing their opinions, even and especially when those opinions go against the crowd. And nothing’s wrong with a little critique lol, keeps me humble
(long text as always, but main points highlighted red lovelies)
Truth is, most fanfic around Sane!Sephiroth is heavy headcanon, and I am no better. We know (somewhat) that Sephiroth was raised in Nibelheim for some time but obviously didn’t see the townspeople as he has no memory of them, so it’s easier to conclude he was raised in a lab or some other isolated Shinra area. Sephiroth doesn’t actually know much about his origins, neither in canon nor in my fic. He doesn’t even believe he has parents, which he doesn’t cause they’re both ass or dead, but that’s beside the point lol. Sephiroth’s backstory just gives a lot of room for headcanons and the fandom sort of mutually agreed “Yup he’s traumatized as shit” and rolled with it
Now what I definitely took creative liberties with is his confiding in Genesis and Angeal about this childhood trauma. This is a much bigger stretch and more than likely not directly canon, but since I have them in a romantic relationship, there definitely had to be some opening up about what the fuck Hojo was calling Sephiroth into a lab for once a week (back when things were *bad* bad). I think in canon, Genesis and Angeal undoubtedly spotted some things that helped them see that Seph wasn’t completely normal, but they took it in stride because they’re good friends like that.
I would like to clarify one thing: the Firsts are aware that *Sephiroth* was treated badly during his childhood, but only as a SOLDIER child. They don’t have a clue about Jenova and the extent of what Hojo/Hollander/Gast did. Sephiroth doesn’t even know the full extent of what was done to him because as far as he’s aware, he’s a mako SOLDIER with a few gimmicks wired in. Traumatizing? Yes. Inherently monstrous? In his own eyes occasionally, but he’s got other people similar enough to him he can be talked away from it
The introduction of Jenova was nerve wracking and brand new and horrible and gut wrenching. They didn’t ask to be implanted with literal alien cells before their births, doomed to unstable and insane deaths before they’d taken their first steps. Sephiroth grew up a child SOLDIER, but monsters? Artificially made ones perhaps. A little gene splicing, even breeding, like how humanity helped the Liger happen (lion-tiger breed). But monsters that used to be *people*? That was new, and that terrified him. And that’s what sent him into the spiral. So I mean, you’re right. Jenova’s existence does shock them to their core, but Sephiroth’s entire childhood did not revolve around Jenova. Even if his purpose was to be a ‘mock Ancient,’ his developmental years revolved around being a weapon for war.
While I’m on that nofe, I’ve seen some comments on Sephiroth’s “alien cells” comment when he speaks to Zack on things for the first time and I want to clarify: when Sephiroth says alien cells, he meant foreign to the human body, not the fucking earth. None of them have a right clue what Jenova is, just like in canon
Also Everybody Hates Hojo so honestly I don’t think people are concerned? This is a man who was definitely not above experimenting on children, manipulated, nearly killed, and then experimented on a former friend, took advantage of a life/scientific partner for the advancement of an experiment and admitted to having seen her as nothing more than a tool, referred to Aerith as her species rather than a person and planned to literally breed her with another species (facilitated rape, basically), and in the OG game, helps fuel a major mental breakdown of Cloud’s for basically…no fucking reason? Not to mention DoG where he just…decides the planet’s fucking moving lmao. Literally goes “Ah yes, let me follow in my son’s footsteps and genocide the whole population so we can sail the stars :D”
the man is fucking mental regardless. just a personal opinion, but any rendition of Hojo is somewhat accurate if his cruelty is kept. I will admit that my Hojo is more reminiscent of an abusive parent because…that’s sort of what he is, and there’s some projection of my own personal experiences happening
And that’s an aspect of all fiction ofc, and especially fanfiction. Renditions change with authors because authors have different experiences. I can’t begin to tell you all the things I’ve accidentally or purposefully projected into this story.
Honestly I could write more but my eyes keep crossing and I should go to bed myself lol. Your ask really made me think so thanks for submitting! Hope I actually answered you amidst all my nonsense babble, and I hope you get some sleep!!!
#ff7#cloud strife#ao3#ff7 cloud#final fantasy 7#zack fair#archive of our own#ff7 genesis#fanfic#ff7 crisis core#ff7 angeal#ff7 fic#wgpcmfg#liddle’s asks
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Could just be me but I feel like the way they built upon Second Squad in the Turtle Canon trilogy made it seem like they were going to join HighRoller's forces as his own "First Squad" because of how much they felt unappreciated at Big Green
I thought to myself "But the Liger King and his forces joined Big Green, why would he switch up suddenly" but then I remembered that Camel King left big green for a bit because he won an artist competition against lin chung and instantly went back to controlling the humans. So anything's possible at that point
#blimbo rambles#also i doubted for a minute because second squad fights against highroller's forces too#but also he could just go ''Hey we aren't so different. humans betrayed me and big green betrayed you. they saw us as inferior''
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Ooooooooo a coywolf or liger is a good idea
and what if Kei ends up teaching Gappy all about the ins and outs of being a werebeast. She teaches him everything he needs to know and walks him through living life like this. Maybe this could lead to them being closer than how they were in canon since this will give them more reason for them to interact and talk on a casual basis
also, I'd imagine that Gappy's control of his beast would probably be among the best out of any Joestar. Until Kei ends up explaining things, as far as he's aware when he first wakes up this is a Completely Normal Thing Which Isn't Scary Or Weird At All. Heck, given the weird state of his memories and what he does and doesn't know, it's entirely possible he'll have Kira's control
It's honestly a bit of a miracle he didn't partially shift in public or the hospital. Maybe he saw that no one else was and thought it was "socially unacceptable/indecent to change in public" or something
Werebeast Joestars Au- they have big, monstrous forms, possibly with minimal control over them, drawing a narrative parallel between the villains who reject humanity, who choose not to care for others, and the Joestars, whose monstrous forms don't give them a choice.
Fun narrative parallels between Dio becoming a monster on purpose, and Jotaro and Jonathan using the monstrous traits they were born with and trying to turn them towards good.
Parallels between Diavalo and Giorno, both marked as monstrous and other from the moment of their birth but deciding differently what to do about it.
Parallels between Joseph and the Pillarmen, inhuman beings who don't care about what happens to humanity on their path to power, and one that defends humanity ferociously.
Parallels between Josuke and Kira, an ordinary man killing for his own pleasure versus a monster doing everything he can to protect and heal
Parallels between Jolyne and Pucci, the priest and the monster, the holy and the unholy.
(plus BIG SCARY FRIGHTENING MONSTER FORMS and BODY-HORROR LADEN TRANSFORMATION SEQUENCES are a blast to write)
HEHEHEEHEHEHEHE Y E S S S S S S S
oh I love this thought :>
and what if for fun, the control aspect of the werebeast comes entirely from how accepting the Joestar in question is of it. Like, they can't try and lock it away because when it does come out it will run completely rampant. However, they can't just let it run wild and free without inhibition because that will just lead to the same thing as before, just with less steps
there needs to be a mid ground. They need to guide that part of themselves, gently but still firm. They need to find a middle ground, and while it won't give them complete control, the likelihood of them completely loosing it while transformed is severely reduced
(and for even more fun, what if they can technically shift when they want. Sure, every full moon or so they'll have a forced transformation where they'll run the risk of loosing themselves, but what if when they get more comfortable with it, they can control it, to a certain extent)
((also LISTEN THE AU NAME WAS RIGHT THERE I COULDN'T NOT))
#beaststars#jjba#jojo’s bizarre adventure#jojolion#jjba part 8#jjba gappy#gappy higashikata#jjba kei#kei nijimura#jjba kira#kira yoshikage#kir8#inconvenientmoonrising
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Sorry if this is a weird question but on a previous post you mentioned that Steven’s nipples were underneath his capshell because they had no functional use.
What I want to know is would that be the same if Steven was a girl? Or would they still be under the capshell? Again, sorry about the weird question but it’s been burning at the back of my mind for a while now.
Since we're talking about this scientifically and you aren't really making it weird, sure, let's talk about this.
They're still under the cap-shell. They still have no functional use. I don't think Nora is fertile, since she has no means of egg development due to the circumstances of her birth, and she does not have the morphing capability to fuse a sperm with herself to morph into half of a new being, either.
Most real-life animal hybrids are incapable of reproduction. This is not true of all hybrid species, but it's true of most of them. The only ones that can tend to be incredibly closely related, such as ligers and tigons. Steven is not a hybrid of two closely related species by any stretch of the imagination, as he isn't even a fusion of two animals in canon, nor in the Grey AU. As such, most iterations of Steven in any case generally probably should be infertile. However, you likely could make an argument about his ability to produce children as a male, seeing as he would not need to pass on his simulated, nonexistent, or otherwise dubiously functional mitochondria to a child. Regardless, that biology would be so messed up in function that a child that somehow was born would likely need a lot of assistance to survive, especially seeing as Rose planned Steven out incredibly carefully, at least in this AU.
In any case, Nora does not have a use for nipples.
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So like, a comment was made on "think pink" that has me highly tempted by a new fic idea, haha. Like, for anyone who does not know, Kon canonically DID once end up temporarily feral-brained and adopted as a pet by a big buff tiger-man in very tight short-shorts, I did not create that particular lil' bit of Tim-melting backstory for kinky flavor, canon really is just THAT weird, hahaha. Also Tuftan is an honorable and self-sacrificing prince who, again, wears very tight short-shorts and has a pierced ear, yes think the tiger from Zootopia who would Treat You Right, and who ABSOLUTELY intended to just give Kon to his scantily-clad lioness girlfriend as a present once he tamed him up. Like if Kon had stayed feral, he would've probably just spent the rest of his life being the queen's bratty pet human because basically nobody in the Wild Lands knew that humans were actually, like, actual PEOPLE.
Anyway long story short now there is a part of me that would LOVE to write a fic where pet!Kon didn't get the feral amnesia drugs out of his system quite as quickly and just ended up spending a few years sleeping at the foot of Tuftan and Tawna's shared bed and getting his metaphorical tail pulled by their adorable liger babies, hahaha.
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@guardiandua @blade-liger-4ever you were never interested in any healthy debates. don’t play the victim right now. right off the bat, you started off by accusing kataang shippers of wanting to be raped - which is a CRAZY thing to say. of course people are going to take offence to that.
people tried to counter your points respectfully - they brought up the double standards when it came to zuko and zutara, and the holes in your arguments. but you deliberately ignored it.
you claim that canon isn’t everything, but in another post included a tag that ‘zutara is canon.’ you clearly want canon really bad lmao, even if you won’t admit it, and still haven’t coped over the fact that zutara isn’t. the only insecure one here is you.
I can't do it...I can't stoop down to their level and just write a character bashing for Aang out of revenge. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel authentic. I was irritated and annoyed but it just doesn't feel right. I will still take a darker route in the fics I promised on AO3 but this just doesn't feel authentic - it feels like a revenge fic and that's not right. It's too draining - I can't do it. I can't make Aang abusive without building up for it and at this point in the story, it does not make sense to go that route. I'll just use that passion to spread love for Zutara - if the darker Aang route comes, it does, otherwise I can't. Even if you Kataang personally attack me like you have been, I don't want to be like you. I never want to be like you. God please protect me.
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ARE WE TALKING PAN???? God pan has so much character potential. Like in any direction you take her, being a “3rd generation hybrid” leads to so much to work with
pan is absolutely fascinating to me, just from a purely scientific viewpoint. bc there are so few saiyans left that it’s almost impossible to draw a solid conclusion about the whole species (and the ones that are left were all outliers to begin with)
but then you have the gohan and pan, who are especially interesting, because generally male hybrids are infertile - if a lion and a tiger have a kid, the female liger might be able to reproduce, but all male ligers so far have been infertile. but pan is living proof that that’s not always the case - gohan is quite clearly not infertile, pan quite clearly happened.
all of that leads to even further revelations about the saiyans - like it kinda implies that saiyans aren’t actually that far removed from humans.
moreover, the relatively short known history of the saiyans and the only race we know they associated with before getting involved in planet-theft (the tuffles) could lead to some pretty interesting implications.
anyway this is a really roundabout way of saying that pan’s existence could lead the gang to discover that saiyans and humans are so compatible bc the tuffles just abducted some primates and genetically modified them
given that the earliest known saiyans appear a little under a thousand years bg (before goku), and assuming that if they’d had enough time to establish themselves then they’d been around for a few thousand years prior to that, it’s completely possible that the primates in my theory were early homo sapiens or possibly archaic humans of some form, along with some other strands of hominid, which is where the tail and ōzaru form come from.
it’d also explain certain other inaccuracies or improbabilities away, such as saiyan tails jutting straight out of their lower backs instead of where a regular tailed creature’s would be, implying a relocated tailbone or rearranged vertebrae. it could also explain why so many aliens exhibit behaviors that don’t really make sense for non-earthlings to have - the tuffles carted them across the universe, and humans are naturally curious creatures so they just. interacted with people.
granted, there’s not really any canon evidence to back this theory up, but i’ve been thinking about it for a while now and frankly all i truly need is access to wikipedia and an imagination.
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Thirsty for the angst 👀 what's it like at the manor when Batdad moves out? How do the superboys feel about Batdad marrying Clark and moving in with him? Is Jon present here at all - since he's the son of Lois and Clark does that mean they had a relationship before Clark got involved with Batdad or did he "arrive" by other means? Does Tim and Duke's relationship with Batdad get any better over time, or do their feelings over him leaving stay the same? Also, what is Batdad's relationship with Bruce after the divorce? I love you and your blog and I ship you with me 😳👉👈 jk jk
Okiedoke. Here we go.
It’s cold and desolate at the Manor for a while. Batdad was the heart and soul of the team, and the life has gone out of it. Eventually it returns to basically what canon!Batman is like, but then it gets a little better. Bruce starts being more open and honest, and he works with the Batboys to make it better. He’s a little tougher on criminals and seeking out ways to end supercrime in Gotham. I think in some unconscious way, Bruce thinks now that if he can do the impossible and stop the supervillains, he might win Batdad back and give him the life he should have gotten had Bruce not become Batman.
Conner is interesting because he really likes Batdad - even when Batdad was with the Bats, he cared about Conner and made him feel welcome.
I imagine that Lois might actually be the surrogate for Clark and Batdad’s son. By this point she knows Clark’s secret and even if she’s a little miffed that she didn’t discover it all this time, she cares about him, and she figures that she can do this for her best friend, who always wanted to have a kid. By this time, with Conner’s creation, they know that human/Kryptonian hybridization is possible, so they are able to have Jon. However, there is the fact that the hybridization is unstable - Kryptonians and humans are close enough to interbreed but it’s like a liger, the result is not necessarily stable and likely sterile. Jon ages rapidly, but this decreases over time. In the first twelve months, he grows from newborn to five year old. Over the next 30 months, aging decreases slowly until he’s around 10-11 years old and ages normally. Jon is infertile - he won’t be able to have children biologically. But his mental development has been absurdly quick. He’s a prodigy of a kid, even if he is a little naive.
Tim is... he’s really stubborn. I think for a long time he’s gonna be angry and feel abandoned and such. And of course he’s not gonna talk about his feelings because like Bruce, he’s another repressed emotionally-wounded rich kid (I’ve been listening to Gotham City Guys from the LEGO Movie 2 and laughing my head off imagining me as Batdad singing it (with cameos from all the Batmen and Supermen and love interests from past DC movies)). Duke is different. He’ll probably come to terms with it by the time Batdad and Clark get married.
Batdad and Bruce have always been friends. Their relationship since they were barely out of diapers has been closer than brothers. They know each other better than anyone else, perhaps even themselves. They’ll always have that. Even with all the hurt and disappointment and trauma in their romantic relationship, they’ll always have their friendship and they will always be there for each other. Ultimately they just want each other to be happy. There will be a mourning period for the relationship, but I think Bruce would be happy for him and Clark.
And awwwwww that’s sweet, anon!
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