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thethirdromana · 1 month ago

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Was it regular or at least seen as normal for the 29-year-old to propose to a 19 year old? If so until when was this common in England or British Isles I suppose?

The short answer is yes, completely normal, and it was normal until about the 80s. You can get a sense from this chart, which shows median age at first marriage in England and Wales:

(from this blog, which also shows the same stats for the USA, where people have generally married a little younger and with a slightly larger age gap.)

Now I'm going to do a long answer under the cut because I find this subject fascinating. It ties into all kinds of questions, like who counts as an adult and what is marriage even for, where our answers have changed a lot and are still at least somewhat in flux.

In the 1890s, marriage was - in short - for starting a family. I mean, it was a lot more complicated than that, but this is a tumblr post not a book, so let's go with that. Couples in England did practise some element of family planning, which you can tell because the average fertility rate started falling from 1880 onwards (and I find it fascinating that this predates reliable contraception), but generally speaking it was a social expectation that women would not have sex outside of marriage, and if they did, they would get married on learning that they were pregnant.

The assumption that marriage = children was what informed acceptable ages for women to get married. Legally, boys could get married at 14 and girls at 12 provided that they had their parents' permission, but they very rarely did. It was widely recognised that early pregnancy was dangerous to girls' health - usually expressed as concern for their ability to bear children. That's where it was even possible, given that on average girls in the 1890s only started their periods at 17.

For example, the Lancet in 1883 published this about the ideal age for women to marry:

Prevention [of illness] is to be, in part, effected by avoidance of unions of immature women or of elderly women: in other words by securing that women are married at the age of nubility, or best age of marriage, with a view to fertility and the rearing of healthy children, and the safety of the mothers and this age is fairly well ascertained to be, for a population or mass of women, not under twenty and not above twenty five.

Obviously there were all sorts of other cultural pressures at play. A woman in Lucy's class, who would be expected not to work, was a cost to her family that they would ideally like to transfer to her husband. And a lot of the literature from this time assumes that young women will want to get married quickly; concerns about early marriage are often phrased around discouraging young women from being hasty, rather than the fear that their family will put them under pressure. Immaturity is raised as a concern, particularly from the perspective that young women might make unwise choices.

On the man's side of things, the important thing was being able to support a family. This was a little bit more complicated than we might imagine because a) some married women worked (about 40% of women were employed in the 1890s in Britain, about twice the rate of the USA), b) the work of wives in the household helped to save money, and c) after the age of 11 the kids could legally work too.

But generally speaking getting married was an expense that men needed to be able to afford, and more so the higher the class of the couple (because then both the wife and the children would be less likely to work).

That pushed men's first age at marriage older, and particularly so in higher classes where the expenses were greater. You can see that in this table from 1890:

Every main character is in that final "professional and independent class" section, and we can see that the suitors are very typical in wanting to marry in their late 20s, whereas Lucy is a little more unusual, though not unheard of, in being under 21.

It's also interesting that first marriage is clustered in a relatively narrow age band. Most people had married by the time they were 35, though again there are slightly more older bachelors in the middle and upper classes. It's from the late 19th century that the "half your age plus seven" rule for age gaps starts to appear - sometimes as an ideal age gap, but sometimes used in the same way as today, where relationships with a greater age gap are described as inappropriate. And we can see from the stats that actually, the average age gap has barely changed.

I think it's really the same set of considerations that made first marriage so young in the 1960s. The economy was doing well, so men were able to support a family earlier in life, but the pressure to get married in order to have sex and start a family remained. And young women were generally in much better health than their 1890s predecessors so could have children at a younger age more safely.

OK, so what changed in the 1970s that meant that age at first marriage started going up? One thing is that having children out of wedlock became more normal so there was gradually less need for a hurried wedding if you found out you or your partner was pregnant:

Reliable contraception (the pill was licensed for unmarried women in 1967) and access to abortion (decriminalised in England and Wales in 1967) also made it safer to have sex outside of marriage without the risk of pregnancy - so less need to get married in order to have sex.

Though the ultimate decoupling of sex and marriage in England and Wales only happened in 2023, when the age for legal marriage was raised to 18 (it had been 16 with parental consent) while the age of consent to sex remains at 16. The change happened quite quietly and the government was a bit embarrassed that they had allowed child marriage until then, but in some ways it was a significant step to say that actually, legally, sex can happen without marriage being an option.

Women's ability to work and to live independently is also a significant factor. Here's the female employment rate over time:

I would also expect the line to be a bit steeper if the ages covered were, say, 21 to 60 instead of 16 to 64, given a) the growing number of women in education from 16 to 21 who might not be working and b) comfortably-off professional women taking early retirement.

I can't find stats over the whole century for women's labour participation, but the milestone legislation of the Equal Pay Act in 1970 (which required equal pay between men and women for the same work) and the Sex Discrimination Act in 1975 (which made it unlawful to discriminate against individuals based on sex or marital status) significantly reduced the economic and social pressure on women to get married.

And of course in the modern day, it would be actively weird for Lucy to be getting married at 19. In England and Wales, of the 478,194 people marrying an opposite-sex partner in 2022, only 1,224 were under the age of 20 - 340 men and 884 women. That's 0.3%, and only marginally more than the percentage who were over 80.

#dracula daily #historical context #long post #ask and askance

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somewherewithouttaxes · 11 months ago

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Bleeding Light (pt. 1)

Nightcrawler x reader

because I'm feral and no one can stop me :)

This has been festering rotting in my brain for a week. This reads like a whole story (and a long one, because I have a lot of thoughts), but my brain spouts better as bullets. So it's bullets. But as a story. Enjoy :))

(also I totally may write out a proper story later. But you get the lore right now)

the Pining.

let it be known that it was mutual. And it was mutual for a Long Time

You were already with someone else when you two met. With his never-ending charm, wit, and kindness, it didn't take long for you to hit it off as good friends.

this soon became a close friendship, often closer emotionally than you were with your partner. You were a mutant, unbeknownst to your partner (out of shame). You trusted them, and they respected mutants, but by the time you gained the courage to tell them, you felt it was too late to risk losing their trust over such a crucial lie. So you maintained this front, masterfully, for over a year

with Kurt, you didn't feel the need to hide. He understood. With him, you could bond and relate life stories in ways you could never with your long-term partner.

it was soon that you began to realize your feelings for Kurt were stretching farther than any other friendship before. And that you liked Kurt more than you ever loved your partner

this tore you up, and you became wracked with guilt. You didn't know how to end it with your partner, though you knew it had to be done. You still loved and cherished the person you spent the last year with, but it wasn't fair to them

over the last several months you two had planned a future together. It was a critical time of your life to gain independence, move out of home, and start your own journeys of life. For so long, you wanted to start this new life with them. It wasn't so simple as breaking up. Their, and your, near future was built upon the assumption that you would marry, as you did love them.

but not as much as you liked Kurt.

Your choice was made when you finally sat down with them and revealed your mutation. One thin cut was made on your hand. Light poured from the skin, igniting both of your faces in shock and fear. As the white blood trickled down your palm, your partner demanded why. Why could you keep this from them? Why did you withhold such an important part of you for so long?

when you could provide no answer they deserved, they walked out.

with your future with them obliterated, you had nowhere to turn. Nowhere to go to escape the psychological torture (and emotional abuse) of your parents' failed marriage. When you turned to Kurt for a deep shoulder to cry on, he provided an answer. An answer he knew would be best for you, and cursed himself that he was more excited about what it could mean for him. The X-Mansion

it only took mere days before you packed everything of value and were stationed at the mansion. It didn't take long for Kurt to convince the professor to let you stay, at least for as long as it took you to get on your feet on your own (and he wanted you to stay because... reasons).

you were more than happy to suggest doing your part as a teacher for the school

settling into the flow of the school, and life so close to people just like you, was a struggle eased by Kurt. He was the new kid before, and just as he had Rogue, you had him.

soon you built your own social circle and support group of friends, fitting perfectly into the puzzle that is the X-Men family. Soon, you were able to grieve your lost love and move on with the world you were always meant for.

...it did not take long for everyone to notice the brighter smiles you offered Kurt. The glances you sent him after making your witty, slightly dirty comments. How he was the first person you sat with during movie night, resting your head on his shoulder as you both grew tired. How you distracted yourself during end-of-the-day classes, searching for him in the hall through the window in your classroom door. How he was the only one you didn't hide the blinding paper cuts and golden scraped knees from.

and it did not take long for everyone to notice the way his tail whipped more excitedly the instant you entered the room. The way he recalled you explaining your day so enthusiastically as if you were the brightest, most wise creature to grace the planet. The way he was always the first to appear by your side after a more gruesome training session, examining every inch of your visible body more thoroughly than Beast. The way when he would let you down after a piggyback ride, his smile faltered ever so slightly to stop touching you.

so Rogue and Gambit formed a plan. Because that's what good friends do

she worked on whittling you down to admit it to yourself. He was happy to encourage Kurt to take more forward action with you. Jubilee soon joined in the plan, and soon there was a whole network of friends conspiring to get you two together because GOD WE ALL SEE IT. THE STUDENTS SEE IT. THE PIGEONS SEE IT. CHARLES AND JEAN HAVE TO SEE IT IN YOUR MINDS EVERY DAMN DAY. GET A ROOM.

and it works

Rogue got it out of you quickly. She was able to help you sort out your feelings and stop feeling so guilty about the past. You did what had to be done, and you never would have been truly happy with your old partner living a life of lies. But you can't lie to Kurt. He knew you deeper than anyone without even trying, and you wished to God he could know you a little better.

it took a month before Gambit was finally able to convince Kurt that you were struggling just the same. Because as much as the man flirted, teased, and worked himself into our attention by any means possible, he could not shake the dreaded pit feeling that you were still someone else's. You were still just out of his reach, and he would never know the feeling of your beautiful lips; your hands beyond high fives and thumb wrestling matches. Never have the honor to show the world everything he wished he could have with you

Kurt met you on the mansion roof. You were minding your business; reading a book and playing with light over the shadows. You didn't want to come inside. And if you were on the roof, that's where Kurt was gonna make himself comfortable. He would hang by the cell tower by just his tail if it meant you would talk to him. Anything if it meant he could tell you the truth.

it started with you looking over at him in a moment of silence, when you truly had no inclination to think he was there with any ulterior motive. Just one thought on the tip of your tongue

"You're so beautiful."

kurt.exe has stopped working

neither of you left the roof. The night wrapped with your head on his chest and his hand in your hair, him wondering where the absolute Hell it all went wrong.

you did wake up around 2 a.m. Sitting up abruptly at the surprise of your position, you were met with Kurt's golden eyes already awake and on you. No one beyond you two knows what happened on the roof that night, but your relationship changed. No more hiding.

when you returned to your lives the next morning, the others didn't need to be told that the mission was successful. Your smiles and bright eyes shared the whole story

#I actually do know what happened on the roof hehe #it's coming later and will be double as long #nightcrawler #x men 97 #kurt wagner #nightcrawler x reader #nightcrawler xmen #nightcrawler imagine #kurt wagner x reader

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z00oo1 · 9 months ago

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Collin and Penelope Fics Pt 2

Ran out of room on my last list so I'm starting a new one here! I do not own any of these fics these are just recs. Some summaries have been shortened to save space.

Knock First by Lilyofthevolume

Penelope and Colin are tired of being interrupted by his catty secretary, Marina. What happens when they stop caring about getting caught?

for you are my fate by maxmayfield

After dancing with Penelope at a society ball for the first time, Colin begins to see his friend in a new ligh

I Wanna Be Yours (Polin Prompts) by Lovelymagnolia

just a bunch of polin prompts

The One With Colin's Flemish Kiss by bridgertonbabe

Colin's secret relationship with Penelope is nearly rumbled when he slips up and kisses his girlfriend in front of his sisters-in-law. In order to cover up his blunder he makes a bold impulsive choice to provide Kate and Sophie with a distraction - but it's a choice which his brothers don't take kindly to in the slightest. Friends AU

and it was all yellow by ninjamanda

Canon divergent AU one-shot where Colin and Pen actually "communicate" and talk through their issues on their wedding night!

all the strings attached by penelopecolin (sexymonk)

Penelope struggles to draw boundaries with her new roommate - and when Colin starts behaving peculiarly towards her, she finds herself headed for a downward spiral.

The Honeymoon Period by Rachel_writes_plays

A little story about one specific day between the ending of episode 8 and the events of the epilogue.

blue dress on a boat by missparker

Penelope's efforts to find herself a husband on the marriage mart are going poorly. Benedict Bridgerton needs a wife they strike a deal to marry. Colin comes home from his travels to discover the engagement, he handles it poorly, to say the least.

Broken Glass by Radomizedusername

When a happily married Colin and Penelope briefly move back into the Bridgerton house during the late stages of Penelope's pregnancy, Anthony finds his temper rising. He expected that he would hardly notice their presence back in his home. Little did he realize he would hardly notice anything else.

Six Pomergrante Seeds by jerrymander

Colin's heartbreaking words to Penelope lead her to make different choices just days away from their wedding.

Friends, Foes, and Fernes by Mariequitecontrarie

When Colin and Penelope run into Lord Debling as a couple for the first time, their awkward conversation unearths lingering doubts and insecurities.

Matchmaker by Readingchef45

how Eloise ensures that Penelope will be her sister from the ages of 9 to 25.

wherever you will go by nojamhands

Penelope's job requires her to finally settle in London, while Colin's asks him to take on one last trek to the Pacific. When Penelope doesn't hear from him for nearly two weeks, she starts to panic, then gets a phone call that changes the course of her life forever

still i can't get enough. by stolemystark17

Anthony is looking for his Viscountess and Penelope made the list. Colin does not care for this development. (But not because he's courting her).

The Family Life by alexxou_stories24

One-shots about married/parents Polin (Regency/Modern/Fluff/Smut).

you got me overnight (just let me be close to you) by marriedpolin (bisexualoliviab)

Or, a 5+1 fic about respecting the sanctity of a shared bedchamber.

EpiPen by everlarktoast

Five times Bridgertons decide to stop eating nuts, and the time Colin realizes he’d given them up a long time ago.

When Lady Whistledown has a hangover by Luna1994

Penelope looked at the paper confused, it was the newspaper of Lady Whistledown.

"I would like to end this edition with probably the most scandalous thing that happened in last night’s ball, Penelope Featherington had a change on her appearance, I would not blame you dear reader for not noticing it, this author often forgets her existence, however Colin Bridgerton apparently did notice it, the two of them were seen in a dark corner

Juvenile Assumptions by NLovett

The one where Hyacinth runs away from home...yeah, all the way to Colin & Penelope's house across the square.

To London on Brooding Wings by FrenEdits95

As her world slowly devolves into a haze of lust, blood, and what can only be described as madness, she finds herself wondering if she should let her friends help her or if she should try and save them from herself.

The Love of Older siblings by Remus2039

This is a version of how Kanthony reacts to the lovers quarrel of Polin. And Kanthony's affection for Pen.

All Will Be Well by BritishGirl93

Polin AU - Medieval times

Promise Me by Jennnnyyyy

Penelope is nearing child birth and is worried that Colin might have to make a difficult choice, she has Benedict promise to be there and decide instead.

The First Draft by kws136

Colin is privy to the first drafts of the letters Pen wrote to his mother. He doesn't handle it well. Then again, maybe he does.

Twelve Days of Polin Christmas by 12daysofPolinChristmas

Thirteen authors, thirteen fics, and a LOT of birds ...

Echoes of You by Penny_Feathers_Bright

A fluffy oneshot where Edmund meets Penelope before the events of the main series.

Sugar by lixabix, wantisamlindyla

In which Colin slowly, inadvertently, and inevitably becomes Penelope’s sugar daddy.

Romancing ever after by georgialee006

Colin Bridgerton had been a fool to not realise what had been before him all that time. He loved his wife more than anything, and the life they had built. Yet often he wondered why he hadn’t known sooner that she was the one.

There Goes My Life by Jennnnyyyy

Agatha Bridgerton has an admirer and a crush - Colin goes a little haywire with the help of Anthony.

Fighting Over Miss Featherington by Mariequitecontrarie

Tired of Colin pouting and Penelope deflecting, Eloise decides to take matters into her own hands.

Hearts and Flowers Ball by Cassandra_of_Troy

I saw someone saying it was a crime for Colin not to see Penelope in the pink dress at the Aubrey Hall ball and this story was born.

You Are Mine by Littlepearlfairy

What if instead of Marina finding herself pregnant and unwed at the beginning of the season, it's Penelope?

A Picture of You by Mariequitecontrarie

Colin Bridgerton has a secret. He’s in love with his best friend, Penelope Featherington, and no one knows. Fine, one person knows, but he’s been threatened with fratricide if he breathes a word. Time and the courage to confess his feelings to Penelope are all Colin needs.

romancing miss featherington by penelopecolin (sexy monk)

After a mortifying conversation forces Penelope to publish Colin Bridgerton's embarrassingly loud declaration that he would never marry her in her column. Penelope resigns herself to spinsterhood, eager to seek solace in the safety of the shadows. If only the third-born Bridgerton would stop trying to apologize.

12 Days of Chrismas Cookies by Readingchef45

Colin and Penelope have an annual tradition: they meet up every other day in December to bake 12 different Christmas cookies.But on the 12th year two things are different.

1. Penelope has a boyfriend: Alfred Debling, a vegan who doesn't appreciate a good, buttery Christmas cookie. 2. Colin is, in fact, desperately in love with his redheaded best friend.

Through Scarlet Stains (You Found Us) by ArtistiqueReader12

5 times Colin got away with murder and the one time Pen caught him.

I Scream at You in Poetry by indiaalphawhiskey

or, Penelope is a storm Colin is determined to weather. A different take on the entrapment of it all.

My Only Wish by Poleverse

Penelope Featherington gets invited to stay 22nd-25th for the Bridgerton's Christmas Party. What she wasn't expecting is her long time crush, Colin Bridgerton to be back so soon from traveling abroad.

you're the measure of my dreams by theartistprince

After Penelope leaves the Bridgerton House to celebrate Christmas with her own family, Eloise is determined that by next Christmas, Penelope will be on her way to becoming a Bridgerton. She sets Penelope up with her single siblings, excluding Colin.

Field of Dandelions by Minathewise

Soulmate AU - soulmates occasionally tastes what the other is eating aka Colin tastes Pens tears.

Thank you Tiny Basset by Solaria_Flare

Important realizations are had, as Colin watches Penelope interact with his nephew.

Time Traveling Lord by Remus2039

Polin. Time travelling. Mystery. Canon Divergence. More fluff, less angst.

Add Soul as Needed by Auburnwolf

They haven't spoken since their wedding day and this distance is starting to take its toll on them both emotionally and physically, until Penelope has an idea. What could possibly attract Colin Bridgerton besides herself? Food

It Was All Yellow by urkrainianironbelly

Colin Bridgerton is about to become a father, and he’s absolutely certain that his future child’s nursery should be decorated in the happiest colour known to mankind - yellow. There’s just one tiny problem.

Rewriting Fate by WinterWidow

In an alternate universe of the Bridgerton world, Penelope Featherington marries Mr. Douglas Walker at the outset of her first season in society, leaving her dreams of becoming Lady Whistledown behind. When she returns to London to support her sister-in-law Felicity’s debut, she unexpectedly reunites with Colin Bridgerton,

Upon Further Consideration of Penelope Featherington by CosmicMuncher69

An annulment, an unexpected pregnancy and one hasty decison finds Penelope sequestered away to a cozy cottage atop a hill in hopes of setting those she holds most dear free from the consequences of her pen, though they don't intend to be freed from her so easily. Least of all Colin.

I Would Give You The Moon by nogonnagothere

The one where Pen takes a lover and Colin handles it about as well as anyone could expect (gets down on his knees and begs her to fuck him instead)

I'll Hold You, I'll Know You by Lovelymagnolia

In which, Colin reads Penelope's journal, and learns what was going through her head during their fallout.

The Fresh Air of the Countryside by tartheyes

After the end of the 1815 social season, Colin and Penelope decide to spend the off-season at Audrey Hall. Meanwhile, the rest of the Bridgerton family, including the newly arrived Viscount and Viscountess, reunite with Pen for the 1st time since the news of who is LW. A fun story of happily married Polin, spending time with the family, and falling into the usual Bridgerton chaos we know and love.

the blacken soulmark by penelopecolin (sexymonk)

Penelope Featherington's soulmark is black.And it's all his fault

A Brotherly Conversation by goyaliz49

Anthony and Benedict notice their brother’s exhausted and sleep deprived state. So they take him to White’s shortly after he returns from his honeymoon. The third born son appears to be morose and listless. What could possibly be troubling him?

Hide, Seek, Confess Et All by emikowrites

When a game of hide and seek at a Bridgerton birthday party turns into a chaotic chase, Penelope Featherington finds herself constantly cornered by the one person she’s trying to avoid—Colin Bridgerton.

#ao3 #polin fic #polin fanfiction #colin x penelope #colin bridgerton #penelope x colin #bridgerton season 3 #bridgerton fanfic #penelope bridgerton #the bridgertons #penelope featherington #bridgerton fanfiction #lady whistledown #lord whistledown #colin my wife bridgerton

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sdv-confessions · 6 months ago

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Sending an ask with regards to the anon that said Sam/ Penny didn't make sense to them.

Not a shipper myself but I do know one of the main reasons is opposites attract but another, and a personally, more compelling reasons is that on the surface they seem like opposites but their more alike than they appear. And oh boy am I gonna go off about them.

Again not a shipper but I do like it when fics and general creatives explore how Sam, despite not initially appearing as such, is burdened with the responsibility of growing up a bit too fast because of the absence of a parent. Obviously this is about Kent and how he never really raised Vincent and even when he was there, he wasn't fully there or Vincent was too young to remember. Not Kent's fault obviously but it still left a noticeable absence in a male guiding figure that Vincent needed after being comfortable with one. And Sam, initially would try and prop his dad up, making him out to be a good father who was serving the country. He's out there kicking Gotoro butt. But as the years passed by of Kent not coming home, gradually Sam became more responsible for Vincent in the prior role. He probably taught him how to ride a bike, or tie his shoelaces and other activities and skills traditionally taught by a father.

Fics tend to explore this more reserved side of Sam that a general chunk of the fandom isn't aware of. Cause the cutscene that presents this more complex side of Sam is one of the only truly missable cutscenes of the entire game (the year 1 beach scene with the perfect circumstances). So general concensus is that Sam is an aloof skateboarder who kinda takes his job seriously and has his head in the clouds dreaming of becoming a popular musician. That's what's presented with most cutscenes and dialogue of Sam.

Penny, however, contrasts this image completely with honestly more grounded cutscenes. You can tell she's a hopeful person trying to make the best of the hand she's been dealt. And everybody knows she was forced to be the adult when Pam spiraled into alcoholism and negligence. And Penny herself admits she does the cooking, she does the cleaning. She takes care of the family by herself. And she's been doing this, presumably, since she was a child.

Penny's circumstances and character (doting and anxious but hopeful) make her maturity levels leagues above Sam's. But that's an assumption based on Sam being the loopy golden retriever stereotype (but he is a good boy, one of the best). And when you base their relationship purely on that, it is opposites attract.

But then that would be focusing on the surface and to get to the true meat and potatoes of the ship, you gotta dig deeper.

With Sam, once you include both the fact he was Vincent’s important male figure/ role model AND the fact that he's a silly goofy guy as previously mentioned, the ship gets so much more interesting. You also have to include the fact that Penny isn't all doom and gloom. She knows how to have fun and can be relaxed. Examples of this would be the picnic, the recipe testing and especially her 10 Heart event cause that shows she can be a bit adventurous.

And they both share a similarity in how they utilise their passions and hobbies as an escape from their circumstances. Penny primarily reads for the sake of escapism. Sam plays the guitar and writes his own lyrics, most likely to express his frustrations (I admit this is a bit of a stretch. I'm spitballing here). And both have an oddly nurturing nature to them. When married Sam is a children's edutainment performer, a job he's extremely proud of, therefore showing he has said caring nature and love for children. Penny is the town's sole educator for Jas and Vincent and has admitted their resources are limited with regards to educating the two. And yet she takes them out for educational field trips, that are most likely unnecessary but she's aware that even if they are, they're fulfilling experiences for the children. They both have a passion for caring for children, going the extra mile for them (I especially commend Sam, as I do have experience with being a musical children's edutainment performer and to genuinely go through with it takes serious mental fortutude unironically).

In most SamPenny content and to my understanding, the ship thrives in how they contrast yet compliment each other well. Sam can relate to Penny's struggle of being forced to grow up too fast, having to fill in for somebody who should be but isn't there (I still love Kent, this is more for Penny's dad and Pam specifically). And in some depictions, he comforts her on it. And in Canon, he would do exactly this as seen with Year 1 Beach Scene (that beach scene is the glue for this entire argument). And Penny could educate on new topics as Sam is a curious person in general.

And another opposites attract element that I really like about them that I rarely see being explored is how their weather dialogue reflects this so well. When it rains, Penny's dialogue is gloomy and distant. She doesn't like the rain, seeing it as unpleasant and an environmental reminder of her home life and how washed out and depressing it is. Meanwhile, directly opposite her trailer, Sam is happy as can be because he gets to play his guitar as loud as he wants. A genuinely optimistic view of the weather. A good contrast with Penny's more depressive perspective. And this does apply vice versa.

To me, their relationship can be summarised as this: Sam is the sliver of sunshine on a cloudy day and Penny is gentle breeze to cool one on a blistering summer day. Penny acts as the unexpected calm to Sam's chaotic storm whilst Sam shows Penny the beauty and positivity in even the most seemingly negative of scenarios. When there's excess of one, the other balances it out. They comfort each other in their pain, they lift each other up when down. They can choose to indulge the other's interest for the sake of feeling fulfilled by their partner's apparent excitement when discussing their passion etc.

In conclusion to this silly little rant for a ship that isn't even in my top 20 Stardew ships, nevermind otp: he was a skater boy, she was a scholarly girl, could I make it more obvious?

#sdv confessions #sdv #stardew valley #sdv sam #sdv penny #long post

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dezznuggz · 1 year ago

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The Parents Of the Friend Group |PART 2

Steve Harrington × reader

~moments where you and Steve do in fact argue like a married couple and moments where it clearly shows and proves how Steve is the mom and you are the dad.

Warning: mentions of the upside down, mentions of S2, S3, S4. A little emotional at the end, still slight bullying of Steve, mentions of possible death, use of y/n, reader pronouns she/her

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Fall of 1984:

Your plan was to go on a date with some new guy and go home debating whether or not 'he could be the one' but your plans drastically changed when an anxious Dustin bangs on your door like a maniac. "Y/N! OPEN UP! HURRY! OPEN UP!" was the noise you kept hearing on the other side of your door that caused you to rush out of worry and swing open the door for the frantic kid. "OH MY GOD, what? What is it?" You say in a little annoyed tone but also in a little bit of a relief seeing that at least one of your many kids isn't hurt.

"We gotta go, fast and NOW!" Dustin practically screams at you before dragging you by your arm and out of your house. "Woah dude I can't, I have a date. He's already on his way" you say trying to resist and pull away from Dustin's hold, "I'm telling you right now y/n your plans can wait cause this is 10× more important than you making out with some guy" Dustin says still not letting go of you and dragging you out of your front porch. Dustin then halts in his tracks, "wait a date? I thought you and Steve had a thing going on?" Dustin says with a little bit of a disappointed tone, "what NO, never, we never and WILL never have a thing going on are you kidding!" You say trying to defend yourself from the stupid assumption that Dustin made about you and Steve. "Are you sure, cause every time I'm with y'all, you guys won't stop giving each other googly eyes" Dustin says which caused you to set your arm free and walk away, "you know what Dustin, call steve for this one, I already have plans and they're not going to be destroyed cause of some stupid joke you wanna pull on me!" You say loud enough for Dustin to hear as you walk off and head towards your house. "Okay okay I'm sorry but this is really important I won't say anything bad again" Dustin apologizes and pleads for you to come with him, "I don't wanna hear anything that will annoy me come out of your mouth do you understand me?" You say as you point a finger at his face, "yes I understand" Dustin says quietly, "I'm sorry what'd you say?" You say as you purposely try to prove a point that you're the one that's in control right now.

"I said I understand y/n now can we get going" Dustin whines and begs so you just let him grab your wrist and lead you to wherever you need to be.

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Here you were standing behind Dustin with an annoyed face and crossed arms, "son of a bitch, you know you're really no help" Dustin says in an annoyed and frustrated tone as he walks off which left me standing in front of mr.wheeler, "you outta put soap in that boys mouth, he's too young to be using that typa language" he says as he points a disciplined finger at you, "wont happen again i swear, its just he gets it from his mother" you say politely as you also walk off and follow Dustin.

"are those for Mr and ms.wheeler?"

No?- HEY!"

You heard Dustin and Steve talking but then Steve goes quiet as he sees you not so far behind Dustin, "what is she doing here? And why are you wearing a skirt?" Steve asks as he points at you and looks you up and down, "I don't know what I'm doing here, he just dragged me along" you say while raising your arms and dropping them dramatically. "Do you still have the bat?" Dustin asks Steve which causes Steve to break his stare from you in a skirt, "what bat?" Steve asks still trying to process what's going on, "the one with the nails Steve!?" Dustin says as he gets frustrated at Steve for being slow. "Ye-yeah I have it, it's in the trunk, what do you need it for?" Steve asks as he slowly catches on to Dustin's attitude and he's not liking any bit of it. "I'll explain everything in the car, HURRY UP!" Dustin says growing even more frustrated at Steve's slow movements, "okay Jesus dude, wait hey get in the back" Steve stops Dustin before he can sit in the front, "wha-?" Dustin gets cut off by a hand pulling his shoulder, "you heard him now get in the back" you say as you push him aside and sit in the front seat but not without hearing Dustin grumble about something.

After Dustin explains what he needs us for, he also gets in a little argument with Steve for not believing him, "how do I know it's not a lizard?"

"yeah how do you know it's not a lizard?!"

"because it's face opens up and ate my cat!!" Dustin says loudly which causes you and Steve to go quiet not knowing what to exactly say to that. The silence gets too much for you so you decided to break it, "what were you doing at the wheelers with flowers?" You ask Steve while looking at him, "umm...I don't even know man" Steve says while avoiding eyes contact but you can read and see through Steve, you know he's lying, "don't tell me they're for Nancy" you say and the only response you got back was a quiet sigh, "oh dude I told you not to apologize to her, it's gonna make everything worse" you complain to Steve for his actions, "okay I'm sorry but one simple apology wouldn't hurt you know and I was a little bit of in the wrong!" Steve says while trying to defend himself, "except it might hurt", you say and although it does sound a little harsh, it's the only way that your words are able to go through Steve's small little brain. "Okay alright I get it but why are you in a skirt?" Steve asks in need of changing the subject so he doesn't look stupid in front of Dustin. "Oh um....I had a date" you say hesitantly, "oh really with who?" Steve asks wanting to know who the 'lucky guy' was, "...um... Aiden.." you say quietly but not quite enough for Steve to not hear, "AIDEN?! The one I play basketball with!?" Steve says very loudly just for clarification. "Yea but he seemed really nice and he was gonna pay for dinner tonight so I couldn't say no" you say trying to calm Steve down.

"oh my God that dudes a total meat head, Aiden T, we're talking about Aiden T right? The one that chews with his mouth open. THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE GOING ON A DATE WITH?!" Steve yells as he tries to make a point that Aiden just isn't the right guy, "yes Steve that Aiden and he doesn't chew with his mouth open, he just chews loudly" you say mostly to not change your perspective of Aiden, "he's nice to every girl, trust me when I say this but he's just not the guy that you think he is"

"Jesus Steve you're just saying that because you had beef with him in like 7th grade, you're gonna have to get over it you know"

"that is not the reason I don't want you going out with him okay, first of all he only washes his hair once a week and second he doesn't brush his teeth, all he eats is mint gum."

"blah blah blah, Steve I can't hear you!" You say as you try to end the argument with Steve. Aiden might not be the ideal guy but it would atleast be fun to just play with him you know. With you making noises to block out Steve and Steve trying to talk over your noises it has Dustin let out his opinion, "I thought you guys liked each other" Dustin says loud enough for you and Steve to go quiet, "omg not again." You let out a groan and roll your eyes, "what not again, what are you talking about Dustin?" Steve asks now wanting to know why it causes you with such a dramatic reaction. "I'm just saying..." ,

"Dustin don't say it-"

"I thought you guys liked each other or something I don't know" Dustin says while completely ignoring your attempts to stop him from letting out his opinion. "That's so stupid henderson you know that" Steve says which causes Dustin wanting to prove his point more, "it's not stupid actually, I mean everyone thought you guys liked each other. Steve is always protective with you, y/n and she always defends you when you're not around. " Dustin once again had everyone in the car go quiet, Steve kept looking over at you to see your reaction but it's kinda hard to read your facial expression if you're covering your whole face out of embarrassment.

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Summer of 1985:

Dustin has practically called himself the match maker. With the conversation that you, Dustin, and Steve had back in fall, it kinda made you and Steve snap into the fact that you guys in fact like each other. Now with you and Steve together, you guys became inseparable. The kids found it cute for only a short time period until they kept walking in on you and Steve having alone time. Sometimes the kids would cockblock and join in on y'all's dates or sometimes they would call out of nowhere and ask for a pick up or drop off.

With Steve now working as an ice cream scooper at the new mall that just opened up, it was better for the kids to get through the movies without paying and today was one of those days. "Have a nice day" Steve calls out to the mom and her kid that just ordered ice cream before zooming to the back of the shop and telling Robin it's her break time. "Robin your turn to be up front I'm on break" Steve says frantically as he collapse his lips on your, "aw dude let me get out before you start making out..gross" Robin says as she walks out with a disgusted face.

"I missed you so much"

"you saw me an hour ago"

"I know, tell me about it" Steve says as he kisses all over your face which causes you to giggle and before Steve can kiss you on the lips again, y'all get disturbed by the sound of the bell on the front desk running non-stop. "Hey dinguses, your children are here" Robin calls out from the front also annoyed by the constant ringing of a bell. "Again seriously?" Steve says as he opens the little window of the shop to see the kids, "hi kids", you say in a cheery tone while popping your head out from behind Steve. You then open the back door for the kids to pass by and they all say hi to you before Mike makes a joke about your lipstick being smeared. "If anyone finds out-"

"we're dead!" The kids cut Steve off cause this isn't the first time that Steve tries to discipline the kids for how they're using Steve, "have fun" you say loud enough for the kids to hear, which they respond back with a wave to show that they heard you, "Jesus those kids are smart and all but they sure don't know how to say thank you" Steve says before walking back into the back room and sitting on the table, "they're just kids, they'll appreciate you one day" you say trying to cool down Steve from officially putting a stop to the kids ability of free movie access "I know but a little 'thank you Steve you're the best' wouldn't hurt you know" Steve says with a pout on his face, "aww don't get pouty now Stevie, they do say thank you just not to you" you tell Steve in a mocking baby voice and squeezing his cheeks as if he was a little boy. "Jesus stop" Steve says as he laughs a little.

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Spring of 1986:

Nothing can compare to how you feel right now. With finding out that max is cursed, it completely has your whole blood run cold. The kids have dealt with multiple death experiences but this one is just max being on a thin line of death. It worries you to be honest, in fact it scares you. You don't wanna show that you're scared or freaking out cause you don't wanna scare the kids or Steve. So you try your best to keep it together for the sake of max and the kids.

Robin and Nancy are out getting information about this vecna creeps while you, Lucas, Steve, and Dustin are sat on the couch staring at the back of Max's head as she writes down God knows what. "I can feel y'all eyes boring into the back of my skull", max says which causes everyone to look away, you then started picking at your nails as if they needed to be fixed (they are doing perfectly fine). Max then walks in front of y'all with envelopes in her hands but no one looks at her in fear that they might make her uncomfortable with their stares, "you can look at me now" max says as if it was common sense, "thank you" "sorry" "yea sorry", was the response she got from them. She then hands everyone an envelope with their names on it but before she gave you your envelope, she hesitates and says thank you before giving it to you which leads to you being confused.

You and max both turn your heads when y'all hear the boys about to rip open the paper but completely stop when max tells them to. "Don't open it now, it's for later" max says quietly but that leads Lucas confused "later for what?" Lucas asks max, "just in case things don't end well or if I don't make it, I want y'all to read it until after" max says which causes you to feel sad and heartbroken and before you can say anything Lucas tells max that we're going to get through this together but that doesn't convince max, not after what she heard happened to the other people who were cursed just like her.

You zone out with your thoughts racing around your head until you see max walk towards Dustin's walkie talkie, "do you think this can reach till east Hawkins?", Max's question leads Steve to being confused, "why are we talking about east Hawkins?" Steve says while looking around but stops when he sees you have a sour expression on your face, this lets Steve know that it's another idea that he's gonna disapprove of, "oh no..no...No!" Steve says in an attempt to stop any new ideas to come in.

That didn't stop max as she speed walked out of the wheelers basement with everyone trying to catch up to her. Steve was practically running after her while complaining her ear off about not letting her go, "if you think I'm going to spend what is likely my last days in the armpit of Mike wheeler's basement then you're out of your mind" max says while still walking away from Steve (who looked back at you and the kids waiting for someone to butt in), "so you can either take me where I need to be or tie me down which is technically kidnapping of a minor and i swear to god steve if i live to see another day, i will prosecute" max stops Infront of Steve's car trying to open the door but seeing that it's locked, "open the door" max says demanding Steve "uh no" Steve says while still flabbergasted at max, "I know a good lawyer" max says while raising her eyebrows as if shes challenging Steve to go against her.

"woah okay let's calm down now guys" you finally step in. The kids practically walk all over Steve and it never usually ends with Steve's idea but instead it ends with the kids idea which is weird mostly knowing that Steve is older than them. With the kids knowing that they are able to take full control over Steve, it takes you to step in and put a stop to everything. "Alright let's talk about it and no one's calling any lawyers alright?", you say as you step in the middle of the little stating contest that max and Steve were having. "Max I totally understand where you're coming from but this is a life or death situation so we can't just wander around when your life is on the line. Okay I know that sounds bad but it's true and you're scared and we're all scared but I would rather prefer you staying in the Wheelers basement than leaving and going out in the public where anything can happen. So trust me when I say this but it's better to be safe than sorry" you finish your ramble as you step in front of Steve to show that your full attention is on max and that you're not taking anyone's side. Max doesn't say anything but instead she stares into your eyes. You don't wanna give in but staring into Max's eyes is like staring into a kicked puppy's eyes and you're currently trying not to give up but instead stand your ground. You couldn't stare into the eyes of a girl who you practically called a daughter and not feel guilty for not letting her go out on her (most likely) last days.

You close your eyes and let out a sigh then turn to Dustin, "Henderson...that super walkie talkie thing of your better reach to Penhurst" you say as you move to the other side of Steve's car and open the door to get in the front seat, "woah what!?!?" Steve says while being confused on how you went from going with him, to against him. "Babe I'm not on anyone's side alright just take her there and we'll come right back, promise" you say as you finally sit down in the front seat, "no one listens to me, THEY NEVER LISTEN TO ME!" Steve complains as he starts the car.

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Everyone had one hell of a day. Everyone was rather overwhelmed or exhausted from the shit they saw, dealt, or heard in the last 12 hours. Everyone was ready to call it a day and go to sleep but with max almost dying there had to be someone watching her, even if she was asleep. You volunteered to go first mostly cause you weren't sleepy at knowing that max could've died in front of y'all in just the matter of minutes. You stayed up for God knows how long until you started getting sleepy so you tell Dustin to take over night watch he complained for a little bit until he went quite seeing that you were stressed out and tired.

You went asleep on a chair that was way too uncomfortable with Steve having his body lean on the chair that you were sleeping on. You were woken up by the sound of someone calling for Dustin, "hello Dustin?!? Earth to Dustin!!??" The voice was coming for Dustin's walkie talkie thing, you got up carefully to make sure you didn't hit Steve or anyone without making noise. "Hey its me y/n what happened?" You asked still half asleep, "oh thank God, hey uh you think you guys can make a food delivery, I mean unless y'all want me to go out there and-" Eddie gets cut off by you, "no don't do that, we'll come by sometime today" you say as you look around the room to make sure everyone is okay but your heart drops to your stomach as you see the couch empty. max is supposed to be asleep on the couch.

"...cause you know a 6 pack could really cool my nerves right now-" you once again cut Eddie off by telling him you have to go, "wait wait don't go wa-!" You shut off the walkie talkie thing and immediately went to wake up Dustin. "Dustin, Dustin!" You say try saying loud enough for only Dustin to hear while also shaking him awake. Dustin eventually wakes up confused and looking around trying to figure out why you're working him up. "What- what happened?"

"were you the last one to night watch!?"

"yea why?"

Then where is she?!" You say impatiently with Dustin not taking a hint about what you're trying to find out of him. "She's right there-....well she was right there just a second ago" Dustin says before taking a look at his watch "I swear I was only asleep for......an hour" Dustin says with a long pause which causes you to let out a frustrated groan with how reckless Dustin became. You grab Dustin's ear and drag him up the stairs in a rush due to the feeling of worry and panic since a lot can happen in just one hour. Relief washes over you and Dustin as you see max at the dining table with holly while listening to music and coloring. After reassuring Ms Wheeler that everything's okay, "you know I think it's so cute that you guys decide to stick together while everything's going on right now" Ms Wheeler says with a jolly tone that is so heartwarming but mr.wheeler makes a dry and rude remark that ended with me walking to max and Dustin asking for some food.

"may I?" Dustin asks as he moves closer toward the pile of freshly made pancakes, "of course go ahead, you guys know you're very much welcome here" Ms Wheeler says as she gives Dustin a clean plate for him to get breakfast, "of course you guys are like family" Dustin responds to Ms Wheeler while adding some pancakes onto his plate, "sure why dont you take for all we're worth" mr.wheeler says in a very much sarcastic tone but that encouraged dustin instead of stopping him. "Thank you" Dustin says with a gummy smile and adds more pancakes to his plate, "Dustin!" You call his name before he grabs another pair of pancakes but instead he takes out 2 pancakes from his plate and puts them back in the original pile after you give him a look to act right, "sorry about that, he gets that from his mother" you say while smiling sweetly at mr and ms.wheeler hoping that you innocent look makes Dustin's actions acceptable.

Dustin sat down and started eating his pancake with his hand which you completely gave a disgusted look and gave him a napkin and a fork that was near Holly's plate. While you and max discuss what she saw when she was in a trance at the graveyard then Dustin decided to butt in, "maybe you infiltrated his mind just like how he did with yours" with Dustin's statement it made you think how that is a possible answer, "like freddy Kruger's boiler room" Dustin mentions and it caused holly to wonder who freddy Kruger was, "he's this super burned up guy with knifes as hands, and he kills people in their dreams-" you cut dustin off from continuing, "Dustin...she's a kid" you say the last part through gritted teeth and gave him a look to cut it out, "it's a movie, he's not real" Dustin says after looking at you for approval to make sure that his excuse to not scare holly was good enough.

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Two days later:

Everyone came back alive but mostly injured really badly. With max in the most critical condition Lucas didn't help the wheeler family pack up as he preferred staying at the hospital with max. Everyone evacuated Hawkins so people started packing their stuff up and leaving as fast as they could. You and everyone else were helping put boxes in Nancy's car when Ms Wheeler said something made you and Dustin perk up, "who ordered pizza?" You and Dustin looked up real fast mostly out of hunger but also out of confusion. Y'all see a pizza truck honk and pull up in front of y'all then see El, Mike, Will, and Jonathan get out of the car.

El runs into your arms as you start tearing up with joy. You then break the hug and look at El fully and correctly to see that she looks different from the last time you saw her, "oh my God what happened to your hair", you say while laughing to prevent your tears spilling out your eyes, "what happened to your face?" El says with a both worry and joking tone, "some type of monster beat my ass" you say laughing and going back to hugging El.

Steve was watching from afar with the most cheeky smile spread across his face. Seeing how happy you are when you're around the kids even if you don't say it often but you love them and you would do anything for them to be happy. With Steve seeing how welcoming and happy you are with the kids, it gets him excited about his future with you.

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mirrorball-leclerc · 1 year ago

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so american

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hey! this pretty girl has 5 extra songs coming out soon! go stream or else!

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logansargeant POOKIE I LOVE YOU!

↳ zoyatorres NO POOKIE, I LOVE YOU!

user92 see we knew the song was about him but the caption is still so cute.

lilymhe when is it my turn to get a love song written about me?

↳ zoyatorres this just means alex_albon needs to step up his game!

↳ alex_albon how am i supposed to compete with 'he's like a poem i wish i wrote' i can't!

isabellaperez WRITE A LOVE SONG ABOUT ME NEXT!!

logansargeant keep this shit up and i'm going to marry you

↳ zoyatorres logan sargeant are you proposing to moi?

↳ charles_leclerc i sure hope that's not on how he plans to ask you.

↳ jensonbutton as do i. i taught you better than this logan.

↳ logansargeant IT'S A LYRIC IN THE SONG!

user45 no one is doing it like them.

irisapatow okay, i guess you guys are cute.

↳ logansargeant POOKIE! I GOT THE APPROVAL!

↳ zoyatorres LET'S GO! IRIS I LOVE YOU!

user31 those are my parents guys!! they're so fucking cute!!

user20 it's such a cute love song for a girl who's never released a love song before. (i'm not talking about gross!)

rhysjones just two americans in love, for once. everyone seems to love dating people from different countries.

↳ isabellaperez i would argue against but it seems to be true. they are the only couple from the same country.

oscarpiastri you wrote a love song about the guy who tripped over air and ended up covered in mud before your first date?

↳ logansargeant SHUT UP? THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET?

↳ isabellaperez it's okay logan, he almost shit his pants the first time he met my mom and brother.

↳ oscarpiastri do you hate me?

maejonesverstappen this is so cute. the song is so cute, i'm obsessed one could say.

↳ rhysjones that was a horrible joke, never joke again.

↳ maejonesverstappen i will revoke your paddock passes.

user04 i sincerely hope logan knows how lucky he is to be dating zoya.

↳ logansargeant i am very much aware.

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¡leclerc-s speaks! i am devastated about what williams decided to do, but that is because i have a soft spot for my fellow american, so this is what happens. it's a little short but that's okay. lastly, manifesting points for williams tomorrow. hope their decision works out for them.

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wait I just rewatched the Double Life clip [9 minutes into Martyn's Ep. #2] and what do you mean Martyn's mom set up a visit with both him and her date (Ren) on the same night. I thought I made that part up when I wrote "Mum's the Word."

Mine was just charcuterie, but no, the canon is that she made Martyn a full spaghetti dinner before she goes on her date with Ren. why did she do that. Is she also eating with Ren? Is Ren at the spaghetti dinner? Maybe they planned a date where they don't eat? Is Ren picking her up at the same house Martyn is eating dinner at??

Most important of all, was Martyn eating his spaghetti the way IRL Martyn did (in his Secret Life merch ad read) when Ren walked in??? Inquiring minds need to know!

Also rewatched the clip in 3rd Life where Martyn calls his dad [8 minutes into Jimmy's Ep. #4] and it's driving me insane... Martyn's just there in front of his friends, pleading on the phone for his dad to take 5 seconds to talk to him... His dad just wants him to make it quick because he's watching TV (and gives him irrelevant "I'm a butt man myself, son" advice), and Martyn still gives a chipper "I love you, Dad" when the call ends. That's so silly.

Like... The assumption there is that that's how Martyn's dad always talks to him. Martyn isn't hurt he got brushed off... He's used to it. That's just how his dad is.

This is assuming we're taking the roleplay literally and that Martyn's parents are on the other end of the phone, but there's also the chance that in-universe, Martyn ALSO did the voices, which makes his multiple attempts to block Ren from his mom so much funnier.

Ren trying to cut in while Martyn gives his 'I love you, bye': Martyn, Martyn- Can you ask her if we're still on for later? Martyn, staring Ren down from his higher perch on the fence: Sorry; she hung up. It was too late. BigB in the background: OOOHOOHHH! Ren literally 1 minute later: Here's the deal. You get the carrots as long as you take me to the deep dark with you. And you let your mum know I say hello.

Martyn & his parents & Ren is my favorite weird dynamic... Total mental image of Martyn standing there crossly, looking away while holding out his phone so Ren and his mom can talk.

Ren calls her "Mrs. Littlewood" and she calls Ren "dear." Is she still married to Martyn's dad?? Ren, what on earth? You can't be doing this, man- BigB is listening and will be getting a gift from his secret soulmate at the end of this episode. You're giving him some really mixed signals there.

I have to assume the "They can look, just don't touch" rules that Ren gives BigB later are also in play for this date? Which is actually hilarious. Yes date. No touch.

Then Martyn's mom goes off about how this relationship "never works" because "Ren doesn't listen," but she still wants to go out with him. Ma'am?? What are you doing?

Every call is such big "Oh, that's why Martyn is like that" energy if you take it serious, sdklfj... Vying for attention because he gets so little of it from his dad, and clearly makes the effort to hang out with his mom and eat her spaghetti, but gets dismissed for others anyway.

Big "nobody's favorite" energy, yet he's all smiles and "I love you"s on the phone anyway. Never complaining about it, just trying to keep a positive attitude.

Martyn: You sent 16 boxes of parsnips to my mother? Ren: All I want is for the girl to like me, you know? I'm trying so hard, Martyn. I'm trying so hard. Martyn: That's your problem right there- She's not a girl, she's a woman. And you are acting like a boy. That's the problem right here; that's the problem. She needs a real man.

It makes me chortle every time I think about it... Two weird guys. One's getting passed over by his mom in favor of the other, but he'll defend her anyway.

Shout-out to Ren in 3rd Life like "I can't lay Martyn off work; he's got a family!" and Martyn is just there with zero family, pretending to look woeful.

Cursed alt joke: The reason why Martyn likes "Fairly OddParents" is because it reminds him of his own family--

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ailelie · 2 months ago

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The Sober Bride-to-Be

Yet another 'Eddie gets an epiphany from a client he's driving' fic.

Eddie glances at the clock on his dash. He should stay out another hour, or at least another half hour, but exhaustion has drawn deep gouges through each of his bones. Or, not exhaustion exactly. He isn't tired; he's just done. He has Chris back, and it had been great picking Chris up at his parents' earlier in the week, thanking them for watching him, and then taking Chris home, but Bobby is dead. It is like everyone he cares about are pieces on a chess board. For everyone he gains, he loses. He got the 118; everyone he'd saved died. He got Buck; he lost Shannon. He gets Chris back; Bobby dies.

The rideshare app pings. The ride estimate is 37 minutes with two stops, the second of which looks close-ish to his house. Eddie accepts it. This, he decides, will be the last of his night.

When he arrives at the bar, he's met by two women in bright dresses. One is wearing a tiny veil and sash that says "Bride." The other is half-asleep on her shoulder. His stomach sinks as he imagines the high-pitched noise and possible puking about to ensue. The bride introduces herself as "Amanda" as she gets in; she doesn't seem drunk. Her friend, though, immediately slumps into her lap as soon as Amanda is buckled in.

"Sorry," Amanda says. "Elle, we've learned tonight, is a very sleepy drunk." Then, without prompting, she adds, "And I'm sober. I paid the bartender to slip me virgin drinks all night." She combs her fingers through her friend's hair. "I don't want to forget anything."

Eddie nods.

"I'm sorry," Amanda apologizes suddenly. "Do you mind if I talk? I feel like my head is bursting, but I can't talk to any of my friends or anyone, because they'll start making assumptions and then I'll have to spend all my time correcting them instead of talking and it is just exhausting, you know? I just want to talk without someone making decisions about me."

Her voice is pleasant enough, and maybe someone else talking will distract Eddie from the chess board in his mind. "Go ahead."

"Thank you." She gives him a long look. Then, after a short, satisfied nod to herself, she starts, "So. I'm a lesbian. Or, I thought I was. But I'm marrying a man."

"So you're bisexual?"

She sighs. "So everyone says."

Amanda leans her head back against her seat and stares out the window. "I had my first girlfriend in kindergarten. My parents talked all the time growing up about how they were best friends first and spouses second. So, naturally, I thought that your best best friend was your girlfriend or boyfriend. Instead of talking to me, though, my parents went with it. Sophia and I bought each other roses for Valentine's Day and had birthday dates at our favorite fast food places. My parents thought I was just precociously gay. I think Sophia's parents thought it was a phase. But, you know." She shrugs.

Eddie remembers buying a rose for a girl in his class and his parents teasing him about a crush in first grade. "It was fun, right?"

She meets his eyes in the rearview mirror with a smile. "Exactly. So, after Sophia was Juniper. Then Cat in middle school, and Lupe in high school. In my senior year, I met Jillian."

"Bitch," the sleeping friend mutters.

Amanda shakes her head, smiling. "Even half-asleep, you can't let it go. Jillian and I dated through high school and college. For the first time, I understood the whole fuss with kissing, you know? Like, Lupe and I made out a lot, but it was always more her thing than mine. I liked her smile, and kissing made her smile. Jillian, though. I could have devoured her. I thought it was because I was finally growing up, you know? Like, I'd just been a late bloomer or something. This is why Lupe wanted to make out all the time. I'd just been late."

Eddie thinks about kissing someone to make them smile and remembers Marisol and Ana. He remembers joining the lunch table talk for the first time after he started dating Shannon, finally having something to share. "I get that," he says. "I've dated, but no one's like my wife. Uh," he meets her gaze quickly in the mirror, "former wife. She died. I'm not--"

"I'm sorry for your loss."

"It was years ago."

"Still," she says, waving his words aside. "Anyway, Jillian broke my heart our last year of college just when I was thinking about proposing. Apparently, being gay was alright for school, but not the 'real world.'" The woman in her lap grumbles again.

Eddie turns down a residential street and stops outside a three-story house. "We're here."

"Elle," Amanda says, nudging her friend out of her lap. "Time to go home. We need to get out of the car now."

"Do you need help?" Eddie asks.

Amanda shakes her head. "I've got her."

Eddie waits. When Amanda gets back in the car, she pulls the veil from her hair before getting in and takes out the pins, letting her dark blonde hair fall down. "Thanks for waiting."

"Kind of my job."

"Right. So, do you mind if I keep talking?"

"Go ahead."

She takes a deep breath. "Okay, so after Jillian, I tried dating again. I'd only been interested in women all my life, so I didn't even consider men. And, like, why would I? Women are amazing. Boobs? Objectively the best."

Eddie laughs again, and Amanda joins him. "Fair."

"But," Amanda says, her smile fading into a contemplative line. She plays with the veil in her lap. "And this is the part I didn't want to risk Elle overhearing, but I always felt like they wanted to get physical more than I did. I dated this one woman, Jessamine, and it felt like it could get serious. We had some of the best dates and didn't just jump into bed, but then she kissed me. And it was great, but it felt like she wanted more with every kiss, and I still just wanted to hold her hand. I started feeling sick every time we kissed, like I was leading her on, making her want more than I wanted to give." She looks up at him again. "Not very lesbian of me, is it?"

He shrugs, and thinks of Ana. "I once had a couple panic attacks because my girlfriend wanted to get more serious. Maybe something was telling you it wasn't right." Maybe you're actually straight, he doesn't say. She'd told him she doesn't want anyone making assumptions.

"That was my thought, too, so we broke up. My friends joked that I had to stop dating women whose names started with 'J.' They thought Jess had been pressuring me. I never explained."

"So now you're marrying a man."

"Yeah. Noah. We met in college when I was still with Jillian. He even moved in with me after the break-up since Jillian'd left mid-lease." She smiles and smooths the veil across her lap. "He's my best friend. I wasn't attracted to him at first. We never had charged moments or accidental kisses. When people mistook us for a couple, we just laughed it off. We really were just friends. Best friends. Then, a few months after Jess and I broke up, he was dating this woman, Nicola, and I hated her. He'd always had terrible taste in women, but Nicola was the worst. Except, no one else really saw it that way. I could see how she just took and took from him, but never really gave back what he needed, but he said he loved her. They even got engaged, but then they had this huge fight because Nicola had accepted a job in DC and hadn't told him. She'd expected him to just move."

Eddie winces, and thinks of Buck loving Taylor, claiming Natalia saw him, asking Tommy to move in. "Rough watching someone make bad decision after bad decision, right?"

"Yeah. I just thought I was being a good friend. After all, Noah's a guy. How am I supposed to kiss someone taller than me? And the dick? Dicks are weird and gross, except--" she sighs and collapses back against her seat. "So are pussies, if you really think about it. I was just familiar with those. And Noah's dick is lovely." Her face is burning red. "I'm sure yours is too. I just-- I'd never even considered..." she trails off, hiding her face in her hands.

"So what changed?" Eddie asks, gracefully ignoring her embarrassment.

"Well, according to my friends and some now decidedly former friends, I'm either bisexual or a deluded straight girl who has finally seen the light, or who was lying to the lesbian community this whole time. And, I get why they're confused. I mean, I'm confused. It's just, one day, I realized that I liked spending time with Noah more than I liked anything else. Then, one night while watching movies, I caught myself wondering how it would feel to kiss him. I figured it was just curiosity, since I'd never kissed a guy before. Complete gold star before him. But it kept happening. Then one day I did kiss him and it was a light turned on. It was Jillian all over again."

"The girl who dumped you?"

"Yeah." Amanda sighs. "All my life, I've never minded kissing and I liked getting my partners off because I liked making them feel happy, but I never really wanted. Like, sex was just something I had to pay to get to spend time with my favorite people, you know?"

That feels uncomfortably close to home. "I do," Eddie says. "Like a performance."

"Kind of." She gives him another searching look. "You really do get it, don't you? My friends don't. I'm not straight. I'm not gay like I always thought. But I'm not bi either. I loved Jillian because she was Jillian. I love Noah because he is Noah. My sexuality is entirely two people."

"Mine too," Eddie says. A lamp is out, and he almost misses the turn for Amanda's street.

"Oh?" Amanda says.

"Yeah," he says, distracted by checking his map. "Shannon, my wife, and--" he stops. The realization of what he'd been about to say chokes him. It hadn't been Ana or Marisol or even Kim. "How do you do it?" he asks. "Go from being a lesbian to marrying a man? Dealing with people not getting it?"

She gives him a wry grin. "Not very well, considering I just spilled my life story to a stranger because I don't know how to explain any of this to my friends or family. But--" she breathes in deeply. "Noah is worth the confusion. I'd rather be confused and with him, than certain and without. Did you just have an epiphany?"

Eddie can feel his face burning as he pulls his car over in front of Amanda's apartment building. "My best friend."

She chuckles knowingly. "Ah. Horrible, isn't it? Nothing makes any sense at all, except--"

"Him," Eddie finishes, nearly interrupting.

"Yeah. Look up 'asexuality' later. That's what I've been googling. Definitely check out 'gray ace' and 'demisexual.'" She opens her car door. "Thanks for letting me babble. Sorry for the revelation."

Eddie laughs again. "I don't know what to do with this."

"Well," Amanda says, ducking down to look through the open door. "I recommend telling him." She drops her veil onto the passenger seat. "Worked out well for me. Good night." She shuts the door.

"Night," he replies even though she can no longer hear him. He stares down at the small, crumpled veil and thinks about how he's ripped his heart in two, how grief is so much harder to bear alone, how he wishes he could hold Buck and kiss him, and how, like Amanda, he has no idea what to do with someone else's dick, but, for Buck, he might be willing to learn. He wishes he could ask Bobby for advice, and that wish warms his eyes with tears again.

Eddie takes a deep breath, forces the knot in his throat to ease, and turns off his rideshare app. He'll pick up Chris from his parents' in the morning and take him to school. Then he'll call a real estate agent. School ends the first week of June. That gives him a month to plan and sell the house. He can't bring Bobby back to life, and he has no idea what he wants with Buck, but he can at least get back to LA and stitch his heart back together. He finally pulls away from Amanda's curb.

It's time to go home.

#buddie #pre-relationship #fic #demisexuality #sometimes we're just wrong or not entirely right about who we are #it isn't that we're secretly gay all along #or secretly straight and confused #sometimes sexuality is just weird and confusing #and if you're open to hetero- and homosexual relationships #being in a m/f relationship is not better or lesser than being in a m/m or f/f one #eddie diaz #911 fic

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antlered-vixen · 3 months ago

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Okay okay, unless I'm going crazy I cannot for the life of me figure out why the whole "elves love children" thing comes from. Like the hair thing I get, they're attracted to hair iirc (nature of middle earth I think) but the kids thing? Nah, can't figure that out.

Hm. Well. I won't make any general statements like "elves love children" because that's a bit whack. But there's a few interesting things one can point out. For example, that Finwe's core pressure point for wanting to remarry was his right to have more children (more sons, even), and comparing himself to other elven leaders like Ingwe who did. Shows that even in Valinor, without the threat of death over them, heirs were a core desire of elves, at least those in positions of power. Then we see situations like Maedhros looking for Elured and Elurin, and Maglor taking in Elrond and Elros, which suggests that even in the most bloodthirsty, horrific, military contexts, some people who have long crossed the line of brutality and mass murder still draw some kind of line when it comes to children. Also, they were procreating like crazy before and at the beginning of the Great Journey, because Tolkien explicitly specifies the early elves had a very strong reproductive drive, so that the 144 unbgotten could swiftly become an entire species. They had to show self-restrain so they can stop having babies, since it was making the Journey harder. Lastly, we have very, very few examples of elven marriages without children. Elves without children tend to be those without spouse. Tolkien calls the sexually active years of a marriage "the child-making years", because in his Catholic brain the two are one. So it makes it seem like an elf that is partnered almost automatically wants to reproduce. And also, it's an assumption that tends to be made for very long-lived creatures, where children will be rare in comparison to lifespans. You know, scarcity = preciousness. THAT SAID. I am at liberty to question and subvert Tolkien as a writer, and in the latest chapter of Light I do straight up say that most mothers in Valinor seem to be miserable, and that it's hard to make the argument that elven women who are married and become mothers really benefit from that at all. And I also have previously had Maglor challenge the expectation he would want children, and of course I write my Maedhros aroace. I really do very strongly try to interrogate the family and its inescapable nature, and the heteropessimism of how the Eldar choose to structure their societies more broadly. I definitely think there is a line between respecting a lot of the worldbuiling and work that Tolkien has done, and just swallowing up the Catholic family propaganda whole. I absolutely don't think having children has any moral value in either direction (though as a parent I do have very strong feelings about loving one's children right), and I do not want to write my elves as all, intrinsically and communally, having some supposed "love of children" greater than Men or Dwarves, or the average compassionate being that sees something vulnerable and inexperienced and thinks "let's protect this."

#tolkien #he rants #the silmarillion

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pseudowho · 5 months ago

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Is living domestic life what you imagined it to be as a child/teen? I never thought I'd live this long and I dont know for how long I'll live anyway, but the thought of joy being found in the mundane keeps me going. Is it worth it?

By "domestic life", am I first to assume that you mean a 'nuclear family' in the classic sense?

Based on context, I'm going to assume so.

I also don't know why you feel, strictly, that you should have died and may yet die soon. I cannot make any assumptions on your health, physical or mental, so this also means all I can give you is my own experience. I don't mean to advise one not asking for advice, anyway; all you have asked for is insight.

So I came from the sort of family where, for the most part, being 'a mother' was every woman's main identity. It was just what the women were. For most of my life, I never assumed I would be anything but a mother. It's funny, because in hindsight, none of the rest of my life and career aspirations strictly matched with being 'a mother' in the traditional sense, so I clearly had a long term delusion, there.

If I had known how distinctly in possession of myself I was, I might have known how hard it would be to give myself up, for babies.

Either way...for context: I fell very hard in love, and we grew up together (from ages 14/15) still in love, and we are now 31 and 32. I am a midwife, he is an English Professor/Lecturer and Teacher. We married aged 22/23. We have three sons, aged 7, 4 and 1.

Good things about domestic life:

Loneliness isn't a thing, here.

Lots and lots of affection, both physical and emotional.

The load of life is shared (note: I have a husband who is very, very outside of the norm, with no toxic masculinity and an approach to equality/equitability in work, childcare and housework).

When you are your own family unit, you're pressured less by family to get involved in their shit. Because you've got your own shit.

Living with the love of your life is amazing.

Having babies who are half you, and half the love of your life, is an incredibly beautiful thing.

Raising babies, although supremely difficult, is a joy.

Taking turns being at home and at work is helpful.

You learn to be much more compromising, patient and forgiving.

Bad things about domestic life:

You don't realise how much personal identity, independence or privacy you will lose, being a parent.

Exhaustion.

Parenting is hard. Really hard. Really, really hard.

Finding time for each other, as a couple, is also hard. Any time you do find, at least one of you is likely exhausted.

Good god, so much cooking.

Good god, so much laundry.

Good god, I swear I just vacuumed yesterday.

Good god, groceries are expensive.

Barely keeping your head above water with life admin and finances and childrearing and housework and work and life and ever having any time alone, is absolutely real.

Very very little downtime.

If you are someone who finds joy in the mundane, then yes, you may find a lot of joy in domesticity. So much of it really is mundane; being at home with kids, is often simultaneously boring and stressful. Very odd. Perhaps I'll miss it when they're older.

My personal favourite moment, is the happy sigh at the end of every day, when the kids are in bed, and the house is largely clean, where you fall into each other's arms, and he looks at you like you built the world for him, and just says:

"Hello. You are beautiful."

And I bury my face in his chest, and breathe in the smell of him, and the stale cologne, and the sweat, and life, and say:

"God, I missed you. More than you know."

And it's basically the same, every day.

In a kind of beautiful way.

Love,

-- Haitch xxx

#pseudowho #pseudowho answers you #haitch #Mrhaitch

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warriorlid14 · 1 month ago

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So on the topic of Marco and his Latinoness (from a latina)

Here's what we know from canon:

Eva is Latina

Country of origin unknown, but we do know she was born outside the US and later became a naturalized citizen

Marco’s grandma only speaks Spanish

Marco doesn't speak Spanish but does understand it some

Assumptions/observations from canon

No relatives stepped in to take care of Marco after Eva supposedly died

Marco doesn't seem to be super connected to his latinoness (as opposed to say, his awareness that he's short and his awareness of his masculinity)

Peter is probably not latino

Why is this important? See, the thing about latinos is that our culture is very community driven. Specifically, very family driven. (General disclaimer: my family is Mexican, but the trend tends to apply to other latinx communities). Like, okay, the whole moving out and getting your own place at 18 that's expected in American society (financial crisis aside)? Not only is it not expected within the latinx community, but honestly it's seen as a little strange.

I'll use my own experiences as an example. When I decided to leave my city for college, my family was honestly a little bit offended. And I'm not an outlier, many of my friends also got the "there's college at home" talk. And then the "okay, so you're leaving for a few years but then you're coming back, right?" talk. And if you're living away from home and don't call your parents AT LEAST twice a week (or more depending on your parents, even for me, a few years short being 30)? Do you hate your family?? The Family Unit, and not just the nuclear family but the abuelos and the tíos and the tías and the primos and the primas, is the default social group.

And leaving a kid in your family to fend for himself after his mom died and his dad isn't taking proper care of him? Not great in any culture, but in a community-driven culture it would be a huuuge social faux pas.

So even when i was reading the books as a kid, the fact that Marco only had his dad to rely on felt weird. Was Eva estranged from her family? Was her family dead?

My headcanon is that they're just not in the US, at least most of them. Eva at some point in her youth immigrated to the US, maybe to go to school, maybe to live with a relative. She learned the language. She fell in love and then married an american. Had a kid. Didn't teach them spanish, not actively anyway.

Sidenote: the Mexican pride in me wants to go "no of course, Eva taught Marco Spanish. Why wouldn't she?" But honestly? I grew up in a predominantly latinx town where about half the people new Spanish. And yet, the kids who knew Spanish fluently tended to be those of us who's parents didn't know English or mainly spoke Spanish in the house. But the kids who's parents were fluent English speakers? Their kids could understand Spanish and maybe knew a few phrases. They could get by in conversations. But they weren't fluent. Hence the rise of the "no sabo" kid trend. ("No sabo": joke about a latino kid who doesn't know Spanish. Plays on a non-spanish speaker going "no sabo español". I hate that term. It's used to shame the kids as if it's their fault they don't know their language and NOT the fault of American society urging them to assimilate.)

And Eva married a dude who doesn't know Spanish. And doesn't seem to have family around that she speaks Spanish with. And she lives in predominantly white suburbia. And if it's not an active priority to teach your kid Spanish, they may absorb some things (as Marco seems to do) but they're not going to be fluent. Or even conversational. ESPECIALLY if after their Spanish-speaking parent dies, the non-spanish speaking parent doesn't make any effort to have them keep their language. (And also! Many monolingual americans will do the whole "but if you're talking *insert language* to our kid, I'll feel left out :(((" which honestly, go fuck yourself)

So! Full picture: Eva married an American dude who doesn't know Spanish. She speaks Spanish here and there and talks to her family on the phone and it's enough for Marco to get a basic understanding of Spanish, but not enough to be fluent. And then she dies. And with Eva gone, Peter falls apart and doesn't keep communication with her family. Maybe they reach out at first, but it's not like Peter is putting in any effort, and Marco can't communicate with them very well without Eva around, and there's not much they can do to help from thousands of miles away. So the communication stops. And Marco slowly loses whatever Spanish he'd picked up to only recognizing some words here and there. And honestly? It's horribly sad.

(It's scary how quickly you can lose a language if you fall out of practice. Spanish is my first language, and yet after years of not speaking it every day, and especially now after I don't even use it for work, I find myself forgetting phrases and words.)

Side note: I can imagine immediately after the war there's a family somewhere in Guatemala or Mexico or Colombia or some other Latin American country sitting down for dinner and watching the news when their long-dead relative and their primo show up on screen. Hilarity ensues

#animorphs #here's me projecting my fear of assmiliation/losing my spanish onto marco

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I just started your missing moments and I’m at the part where Carlos says he got a b. This might be a long one cause I don’t know how to explain myself 😅😭

Just from that scene alone in ur fic it seems that you think that Gabriel was hard on Carlos and they didn’t have a good relationship for the years not just when he came out.

When I read people’s thoughts on his relationship with his dad it’s always a mix and I get confused there are people who only talk about the fact that he didn’t say anything when Carlos came out and that there relationship was good before that and then there are people who think there relationship was never good.

I’m on the half that thinks that they never had a good relationship because with the coming out scene I know they lived in a time that it wasn’t really talked about, but I just feel like if you truly love your kids and you’re close with them you would have said something. And then also just like the scenes where Carlos said, he trusted his gut or something, and then Gabriel said a little too much or something along those lines like the relationship has always seemed awkward, and that Gabriel was too hard on him

Now I know it’s a big assumption you could’ve just wrote that scene cause it’s a fic and it’s fiction 😅 but can I ask 1. why do you think Gabriel was so hard on Carlos and 2. why (from what it seemed) why Andrea never stuck up for Carlos against is dad.. or was she just as mean and hard on him but we just didn’t see it cause the writers clearly wanted the attention more on him and his dad cause Andrea is definitely not innocent either. If my husband was mean to our kid the grown man as to go.. imo

Carlos isn’t my favourite character but I do wish we got an apology from both parents, hopefully Andrea has apologized for how they parented him

Sorry for this long ask I just always get confused when people talk about Carlos and Gabriel I never know what they actually think about there relationship cause I just always thought it was simple they never really had a good relationship too start so ur fic seems very realistic too me, just wanted too talk :) 💗

So, I think part of the problem is that the show itself wasn't particularly consistent on what exactly the state of Carlos's relationship with his dad was, and at what time. For four seasons we are given the impression that they weren't that close when Carlos was little. Obviously we have the canon facts that Carlos was really wounded for a very long time by the way his parents reacted when he came out - to the point that he married Iris in part as an attempt to please them, as he states in 4x01, because he thought he'd disappointed them and that getting married to a woman is what they wanted from him. But later in season 4 when they're discussing whether they want to have children, Carlos also says to his mom something along the lines of "I'm worried I won't have a good relationship with a child because I didn't have a good relationship with my own dad", which to me suggests that the hurt runs deeper than just the poor reaction to his coming out at 17. When you pair that with what he says in 2x08, about how Gabriel didn't want him to be a police officer because he thought Carlos was "too soft", to me that all adds up to a relationship that had been strained for a long time before Carlos came out, and I feel like it subtly suggests that Gabriel saw traits in Carlos that lean more towards stereotypical feminine/gay traits, such as him being sensitive, and was sort of doing that typical dad thing of always trying to get Carlos to 'toughen up', maybe even subconsciously because he suspected Carlos might be gay and was trying to protect him from the way the world would treat him. Or even that he didn't want Carlos to end up gay, when Carlos was little and Gabriel has suspicions. That's not uncommon nor is it the worst thing in the whole world, given that Gabriel obviously learned and grew and changed his mind about that and was so excited to be in the wedding party when his son was marrying a man. It all paints a picture of a very complex relationship between a father and a son that was never quite what either of them wanted it to be, and they never totally figured out how to fix it because they're not used to talking about those kinds of things, which is an incredibly human story.

But then, in 4x18, that all seems to be thrown out the window a little bit. Suddenly there's a video of Gabriel being gentle that Carlos has no memory of - and it's not just him not remembering that one specific night, at the funeral his sisters say something like "he was always so sweet with you Carlitos" and Carlos seems to have literally no memory of this, despite him being old enough that he should remember it. So, has he blocked out those memories because of the trauma of their strained relationship in the later years? Is he being a bit gaslit by his family because they don't want to face the truth? Are his sisters just looking back with rose colored glasses because their father is dead and it's not the time to air out all his mistakes? I don't really know, it's a bit disjointed and it's hard to say what the intentions were here. I think sometimes what happened is that the writers liked the idea of Carlos having a complicated and at times strained relationship with his parents, but then really didn't want the Reyes' to be unlikeable, so they tried to sort of straddle that line between having Carlos tell us their relationship wasn't good but then on screen show us Gabriel and Andrea being lovely and wonderful. At times I don't think they straddled that line as well as they could have, it ends it a slightly clunky narrative.

All of this to say, I personally like the first version of the story I explained in this very lengthy answer haha, where they had a strained and complicated relationship that was full of love but also full of mistakes and misunderstandings and a lack of communication. I don't particularly like the idea that Gabriel was actually a perfectly wonderful father all along and Carlos was just imagining the hard times, because that feels invalidating of Carlos's trauma. I wrote the bit about both his parents being hard on him about school grades because I was crafting a narrative where Carlos learns over time to keep secrets as a mechanism of self defense, and that was sort of a low-stakes way for me to show that starting in childhood. Lots of people's parents, mind included, were hard on them about grades in a way that negatively affected them, even though the parents didn't mean to do anything wrong and were just trying to make sure their kids succeed in life. It makes sense to me, as someone who also suffers from not-good-enough syndrome, that those feelings would have started with his parents.

#911ls asks #reyes family meta

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mxtxfanatic · 3 months ago

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I'm gonna get into mdzs, and I would like to know, is it a very complicated story? This is technically my first Chinese novel. Should I do some research on how Chinese culture works and get some context before reading? Anything that would help me understand the book better?

Wow, convenient that I just answered a similar ask. Since you already seem ready to crack open the novel, I'd say you can skip reading the extra and just get right into the story, but all my other advice in that ask still counts. As for what you should know going in, I don't think it matters for you to know anything specific, since the story sets itself up pretty well. Therefore, any extra cultural understanding from the viewpoint of someone who doesn't know anything about Chinese culture is icing on the cake rather than a prerequisite. I think the only thing that you should probably have a baseline understanding of, culture-wise, is the function and functioning of martial schools (martial families are not bio families, though they are structured similarly) and also the servant hierarchies (not all servants are the same or of the same class). But even without, you should be able to understand the story pretty well as long as you're not going in with some assumption on how the story will go. I think the biggest thing to know is that this is not a genre-typical story (in fact, it's a critique of the genre) so anything you would know about the genre, anyways, would only exist to be challenged by the narrative. (This is all my advice as someone who read the novel without the cultural background.)

Some smaller things are: married women keep their maiden names, but their titles refer to their marriage clan (Jiang Yanli keeps her name but is referred to as Second Madam Jin; for her to be "Madam Jiang" would mean she married into her own natal family...), you can be considered married if you do your "three bows" (bow to each other, bow together to the heavens, bow together to your parents; this is probably not the order, I'm just typing them out), and your maternal family and/or natal family is expected to throw their weight around to defend you. To not do so means that they do not care about you or any mistreatment you may face, which means your husband or paternal family can treat you any kind of way with no backlash as there is no consequence to it.

Now, idk what version of the novel you are reading, but I would suggest starting with the fan translation from exr (if you want a completed translation) or fanyiyi (if you want quality but don’t care to read the story by just one translator) and not the 7seas version, which is riddled with story-changing mistranslations.

#mdzs asks #anon #happy reading anon!

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electra-jolts-magnetism · 1 year ago

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Griselda: Why did the girls give me a mother's Day card?

Griffin: I got a step-mom card.

Faragonda: I got a mother's Day card too.

All three: ...

Griselda: Did the girls really just adopt us as mother figures?

Winx: We did it in first year actually!

This reminds me of a post I reblogged 😂 It said:

Yes it's sweet when your fave adopts the plucky child they've just met, but the best trope is when the child finds the tallest, gruffest old man they can find and says 'yeah, I'm gonna be his problem now'.

The Winx spend more time with Faragonda and Griselda than their parents at this point, and those girls know something is going on between them and Griffin. They’ve been calling them their Moms for years (In the beginning, The three of them always chalked it up to an accident as it wasn’t unusual for students to call them “mom.”)

After graduation, The Winx realize that this could become confusing and decide that their Birth Mothers (& Vanessa) would be “Mom”; Faragonda would be “Mama”; Griselda would be ”Mother or Ma”; Griffin would be “Step-Mom or Wicked Stepmother” (because they think it's hilarious); and that Faragonda, Griselda & Griffin would be their “Bonus-Moms”. However, when referring to All of them, the Winx call them their “Moms”. And yes, the specialists are aware.

[Most of these take place after graduation, but some can take place before]

===== Bloom =====

Person A: What’s it like having two moms?

Bloom, looking through her phone: Five.

Person A: What?

Bloom, holds up her phone and shows them a picture of Vanessa, Marion, Faragonda, Griselda & Griffin having tea: Five moms, and It’s pretty nice.

Bloom, counting on her fingers as she lists them off: When I experience culture clashes, I talk about it to my adoptive mom because she can understand my point of view. (Vanessa)

Bloom: I’m able to get to know my birth mom and learn how similar we are despite not being raised by her. (Marion)

Bloom: Mama is always willing to lend an ear or a shoulder to cry on and offer advice. And when she has time for tea, she will tell all sorts of stories about my other moms, especially the embarrassing ones. She also gives the best hugs. (Faragonda)

Bloom: When I was falling asleep during my classes, the professors eventually stopped waking me up; I later learned Mother told them to let me sleep. She would then go over everything I missed one-on-one during detention or let me sleep through detention if I was in there for another reason. Now, she lets my friends and I nap in her office and will make time for us in her absurdly busy schedule if we need her. She also gives surprisingly good hugs if you’re brave enough to ask. (Griselda)

Bloom: And if the Winx and I are ever in trouble or end up in jail, our Step-mom will bail us out and not tell any of our other Moms. (Griffin)

===== Stella =====

Stella, hears someone talking shit about Faragonda: Keep my Mama’s name out of your fucking mouth.

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Stella, hears someone talking shit about Griselda: Keep my Mother’s name out of your fucking mouth.

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Stella, hears someone talking shit about Griffin: Keep my Step-mom’s name out of your fucking mouth.

(This one, in particular, has led several people to wonder when Griffin married one of her parents; Luna is the usual assumption)

===== Flora =====

Helia, over the Phone: The guys and I are wondering if you and the girls are free this weekend?

Flora: I’m so sorry, but we all have plans.

Helia, a little curious: Really? What are you all doing?

Flora: Well, Mama’s taking Bloom and me to that new Botanical Garden that recently opened.

Flora: Mother got tickets to a Ballet that Musa and Aisha have been talking about for months and is taking them both.

Flora: And Stella and Tecna are going to watch a Meteor Shower with our Step-mom.

Helia: That sounds incredible. I hope you all have fun!

Flora: We will!

===== Musa =====

Some Asshole to Musa: Well, at least I have a Mom!

Musa, without missing a beat: Actually, I have three, and each of them could kick your mom’s ass!

===== Tecna =====

Timmy, staring at the device on the table in disbelief: Where did you get this?

Tecna, speaking casually as she typed away on a laptop that wasn’t even available for purchase yet: Mother made some calls. It turns out a lot of people owe her favors.

===== Aisha =====

Nabu or Nex: Hey, Aisha, can I ask you some quick questions?

Aisha: Sure, what’s up?

Nabu or Nex: Why do you have a dagger strapped to your leg? Where in the Magic Dimension did you get it? Do you even know how to use it? If so, who taught you? And do your parents know?

Aisha: My Bonus-Moms firmly believe you should never go anywhere without a knife.

Aisha: It was a gift from my Step-mom.

Aisha: Yes, I do. Mother taught me, and she wouldn’t let me go anywhere with it until she was confident that I knew how to use it.

Aisha, Smirking: Mama asked, and they said No.

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