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Oh, Lala...
#atla#avatar the last airbender#atla fanart#atla art#atla azula#princess azula#atla ursa#suki#atla suki#kyoshi warriors au#kyoshi warriors#Kyoshi Warrior Ursa AU#wip#I felt like sharing a little snippet of a two-page comic I've been working on for AGES#Literally you have no idea for how long this has been sitting on my drafts#Mainly because I keep getting sidetracked by new AUs and sketches and projects. But that's nothing new so#This one is a deep-ish dive into the basic character dynamics between the Fire Siblings as well as Ursa and Suki#Or should I say#Between the siblings Ruolan and Jian Li regarding their mother Noriko and each other.#I know the names can get rather confusing. I'd love to explain the reasoning behind them if anyone would like to know tho#Moving on#There's a lot to unpack in that scene#The characters are different from how we know them due to their circumstances in this AU. But they have things in common with the og series#Of course that remains for you to see#I'm so excited to finish this and share it with you guys!#Some of you have been asking about Azula/Ruolan and Ursa/Noriko in this AU and I am here to deliver#I love the dynamic between this little family SO much it's driving me insane#That being said#What do you get from this panel alone? What do you think it's happening?#I'd love to hear your thoughts on this
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in defense of kabumisu……..
addressing things I see people say about why kabru being shipped w mithrun is ‘bad’ or why their canon relationship ‘doesn’t mean anything’ while also clearing up misconceptions of the characters some fans have
listen it keeps popping up and I just gotta do this or my brain will melt (if you don’t see it around then god I wish that were me) there’s an age gap!- erm there’s also an age gap in farcille (ily), the most popular ship in the series...also chilchuck looks like a kid but a lot of fans recognize him as a dilf because of his relative age, so there should be no age gap discourse among adult characters because it feels so conditional tbh
kabru taking care of mithrun is racist!- marcille likes to take care of others as well. is that sexist, or just an aspect of her character?
kabru isn’t treated like a servant, waiting on mithrun hand and foot…I mean he gives mithrun a foot massage but no one told him to do all that lmfao
he's also not the only one to care for mithrun. pattadol is shown to worry for him and milsril was the one to start taking care mithrun in the first place after he…...y’know. speaking of which-
they probably met when kabru was a kid!- neither of them showed signs of recognizing each other the entire time mithrun was introduced nor when they were together. and im pretty sure KABRU of all people would show some kind of recognition if they'd met before. it's kabru!!! the people person!!! mr. "i-noted-down-50+-characters-in-this-dude's-backstory-for-fun-and-actually-enjoy-social-gatherings"
you would think some kind of memory would come back to him especially after hearing mithrun’s backstory if milsril had even told kabru about him as a kid. but nope. it’s just fan speculation unless there's a side comic suggesting otherwise that i haven't seen
mithrun doesn't care about kabru, his shapeshift double looked like shit!- it's obviously because of mithrun's (then) lack of desires that it looked like that, but they really grow on each other
i think it's safe to assume it'd look more like kabru after they spent so much time together (also laios can barely even remember kabru's name..also saw his face multiple times and didn’t recognize him when they talked for the first time)
mithrun is racist!- he’s actually the least likely character to be racist since he lost his desires and that includes a desire for superiority over others. he even calls his past self out on that part of himself. the other elves in that side comic were being just as racist to shorter lived races but just didn’t use ‘outdated slurs’
(unfortunately literally every main character in dunmeshi is at least a lil prejudiced, but I believe it’s worldbuilding and a sign of the times rather than a reason ryoko kui is giving to hate each character)
taking care of others is a pain in the ass!- saying this as a reason kabru and mithrun shouldn't be together is basically saying disabled people shouldn't be allowed to have romantic relationships because they're a "burden"...if someone is actually willing to put in the work, then let them be.
that's not even all of their relationship, mithrun is the fighter of their duo and kabru would've been killed by the shapeshifter or something if he'd fallen down the hole on his own since he sucks at fighting monsters. mithrun helps collect ingredients for cooking every time, too (barometz fruits and griffin egg). he pulls his weight and then some!! i feel like people forget that part of mithrun a lot somehow.
+senshi literally cooks for everyone all time. it's kind of an important aspect of the narrative.
+also, while it is a popular fan thing I see around that kabru handfeeds mithrun, he literally never does lol this is mithrun using his own hands to eat:
also here we have him washing his own body
just saying because people like to treat mithrun like a baby even though the narrative respects him as a capable adult who also has special needs because of an accident. he’s captain for a reason
kabru hates taking care of mithrun!- not exactly, he was initially surprised and put off but got used to it quickly. i’m sure he’s grateful for all the times mithrun saved him from a monster and teleported them out of danger as well
he even starts doing “unnecessary” things for mithrun’s comfort and safety like when mithrun pushes himself too hard fighting, even after his mission to take care of him was complete when the canaries came back
here is even kabru resting while mithrun keeps watch (mithrun let him sleep for 5 hours before waking him up from the nightmare earlier, too):
there's nothing more to their relationship!- they actually have had a very tight and consistent dynamic since they met and they incite the most change within each other by the end. kabru is the one who inspires mithrun to create new desires so he doesn't waste away, and mithrun is the first person we see kabru being genuine with and it leads him to be more honest with others by the end instead of tiptoeing around everyone all the time (that mask was also the reason some ppl initially disliked kabru…)
kabru’s relationship with mithrun is honestly so important for his character and vice versa, but it’s often disregarded because of one over exaggerated aspect of it (an aspect that isn’t even the first way they interact with each other) or because people want to just straight up ignore it for some reason 🥲🥲
kui dedicates many panels to them that don't particularly serve the narrative as a whole in order to demonstrate this and i think that's pretty significant
you're taking this too seriously!- as if i'm the first person in the world to be crazy about a ship or the characters 😭 i love analyzing text and it's upsetting to see them mischaracterized when kui lays out the characters so clearly and deliberately
also they end up touching each other like all the time and have the kind of canon validation most ppl can only dream of lol i feel so insane look at this:
and this is just when they're first getting to know each other cuz there's a fuckload more
kinda hard to explain how i don't actually need them to get married or whatever but i'd die on this hill for them and i enjoy their dynamic immensely
haha you thought you were reading ship discourse but it was actually a character analysis 🤪🤪🤪
also don’t somehow take this to mean I think anyone has to ship them, I just need everyone to understand these accusations kind of don’t make sense especially when they can also apply to other pairs or characters
bonus kabru just looking at mithrun:
#dungeon meshi#kabumisu#kabru of utaya#mithrun#dungeon meshi spoilers#i'd rather be able to enjoy their dynamic without feeling like i have to explain it but i keep seeing the same takes i cant do this anym-#i feel like i advocate for kabumisu so much because i see so many people mischaracterizing kabru to make l4bru work like how they want#by saying he’s obsessed w laios because he thinks he’s hot..but he was curious about his autistic behavior and eventually thought his lack#of malice would make laios the best candidate for becoming dungeon lord to prevent another utaya tragedy. tho eventually he doubts that#not that i care that he's shipped with laius. i just want ppl to see kabru for who he IS bc some still think hes nothing but a shady bicth#i think that's best shown through his dynamic with mithrun (other than his own words of course) so i want ppl to acknowledge it properly#like idk if I can trust popular fan interpretations of the characters or relationships anymore after the shit with toshiro bro 💀💀#not trying to attach kabru’s entire being to mithrun or anything either just..saying#hm i feel like the way i worded all of this will make some ppl mad. not my intention but whoops#anyways has anyone drawn ship art of senshi and mithrun yet? anyone?
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some recent sulemio sketches. i've been starting a new drawing every day since sometime in january so I have currently made 226 drawings this year, most of which are sketches/WIPs!!
if you wanna see all 200+ sketches and wips then they're on patreon. i make weekly posts with all the sketches from the previous week.
#i do want to finish more of them#but i'm just happy to sketch a lot without the goal of finishing anything#i don't post my wips elsewhere since i think ppl would rather see the finished stuff#and then i'd be posting nothing but unfinished work#which isn't my vision for most of these pics
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Just a bit of lore relevant vent art (with terrible proportions bc apparently I mess that up horribly when I'm tired ugh. Watch me regret posting this tomorrow. The head size is already driving me mad bc it's too big, and I can feel myself wanting to abort this mission already) of Mourynn just, lying down on top of one of those large elevated Pale Tree roots far above the Grove (and far away from everyone else), and during the time between the early years and before the Personal story. Caithe is gone (Destiny's Edge), Wynne is gone (bc well, y'know...), even Faolain is gone (bc of Caithe in DE), and she's just feeling miserable, lost, and alone. (Her hair is in between her sapling hair and the Zhaitan hair, so it's grown out a bit bc she's depressed, and she's meant to be in the new outfit she designed, but I'm in the process of redesigning it a bit, so I've made a few tentative changes for now. Her collar is now just an extension of her clavicle leaves which can be put up like a collar, or can be draped down over her shoulders or back)
#gw2#sylvari#artgallery#mourynn#mourynn art#I've just been so tired lately bc of work#also just going a bit stir crazy with the silence (lonely; but alas I unfortunately suck at starting convos bc I have nothing interesting t#talk about and work has been draining my social energy; making it even harder :( (I'd rather burn the social energy with friends yknow?)#it's getting a wee bit better; but I haven't had much time or energy to even game while we're in the midst of our busiest season :(#I miss hanging out and chatting with my buds; but the universe insists on keeping us apart :(#just miss having something to look forward to throughout my day. Been trying to fill it with other things; but the depresso is overriding i#Mostly just been me with my thoughts and that is just bad bc I got so many horrors in there lmao.#I wanna at the very least; draw more or game more to distract from it; but work is sapping all my time and energy from it.#but also it's very quiet on my end and it's kicking my overthinking into overdrive so I#Ive just been fighting with my mind lately lmao#hopefully this will all pass soon so I won't obsessively keep thinking about it loll#lol I'd post this in the servers but it's vent art so it feels a bit weird to do; so it's going straight to home video w/o a theater releas#hopefully once work calms down it'll help#(I have so many long shifts makes me so frustrated bc I hate them and I run out of steam half way through)#other than all that I'm doing fine lol. My brain's always been like this; But I usually only get like this during the winter season#(bc of the holidays making everything quiet and also the SAD) so it feels weird having this exact same feeling happen to me in July lol
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peace and loveeeee
#fanart#one piece#verdof#donquixote doflamingo#vergo#i haven't been drawing a lot as of recent cuz between doing things i'm supposed to do and doing what i like i'd rather do nothing at all.#many such cases
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i still haven't recovered from the fact that meloni thawne hasn't appeared in 20 years. not only that but most of her appearances in the wiki are either flashbacks or cameos
analysing impulse lore i understand why some characters stopped showing up - even more when you remember the guy was in comic limbo till 2018. it makes sense that authors don't include barts civilian friends and after the fastest man alive mess (and personality rewrite) i'd rather inertia stay dead
but meloni is bart's mother! how come she appears less than 20 times? the last of which in 2004?? the flash series loves to go on and on about family. it shows. bart allen has returned, but not his mother
#meloni allen#meloni thawne#bart allen#flash family#jenni ognats#but the worst of all#thad thawne#because the worst possible thing happened to him#acknowledgement#acknowledgement that hes not evil#just an angry kid#and then nothing#this was 4 years ago#they're not going to do anything with him#i'd rather he had stayed gone
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anyway I think it's an actual crime they cannot kiss in canon
#i ended up getting a few mods. nothing that edits the story but some interface stuff for stats#I also got the morgana real cat overworld talk portrait mod#that one is really important to me since i love morgana#.. also a shut up nav mod#ily morgana but if I have to tolerate futaba from now on I'd rather not hear her voice#on ng+ I might do the gay joker mod. goker.#or now maybe because *none* of the romancables interest me.#except maybe Ann! Ann is super likable.#anyway tag time#ren amamiya#morgana#ryuji sakamoto#persona 5#pegoryu#by proxy really
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Archery Science Professor at the Vulcan Institute of Defensive Arts [Patreon | Commissions]
#someone in the tags of a post [I can't remember which or I'd have put it in the caption]#said Tuvok is like those male english/history teachers that you're convinced are gay until they drop the fact that they have a wife and kid#that's all I was thinking as I drew this HEHEHE#Professor Tuvok/Young Dad can have longer hair as a treat#his hair does not grow downward - he's using products clips and accessories#bea art tag#happy Tuvok Tuesday <3#Tuvok#st voy#st voyager#star trek voyager#apparently (memory beta) the institute is located in Xen'tal which is on the outskirts of Gol#and the institute is really more for ceremonial practice and honing discipline since Vulcans have cast away violence & most of what's taugh#doesn't do much good if your enemy has - say - a phaser#but anyway all this to say it's a very small one-horse type of town with nothing much to do and I think that makes a lot of sense for Tuvok#imagine you're Sek and you grow up in Xen'tal and then one day your dad's like guys we're going to space#It's fun to imagine Tuvok's oldest thinking of him primarily as a professor while his youngest thinks of him primarily as Starfleet#Tuvok's kids bored out of their mind trying to think of something to do while wandering around town <3#Good image!!#It's fun to think of your favorite characters' pre-canon lives!#I like how even though Tuvok decided to raise a family rather than work in the temple he still has monk tendencies#he's so ascetic <3
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"It's powerful, it's visceral, it's dark, it's like a Shakespearean tragedy. There’s no Arya — a character everybody's going to love. They're all flawed. They're all human. They do good things. They do bad things. They're driven by lust for power, jealousy, old wounds — just like human beings. Just like I wrote them."
Seeing people debate which grey characters can still be considered "morally good" and somehow Arya never makes the list, so it's the perfect time to bring back this quote from George which shows exactly how he views her character 🫶🏾
#arya stark#asoiaf#george rr martin#it truly couldn't be clearer that he cheats with making her a grey character by having all of her killings be justified but then he#comes outright and says she's different then characters who're flawed + going to do bad things at times 🤷🏾♀️#but then he actually acknowledges her trauma and the things she's been through so that really isn't shocking#ultimately fandom is a very small portion of the fanbase and how they perceive her character doesn't matter#I'd much rather have the same opinions of a character as the author...good thing George is an Arya stan to the core 🤭#if we ever get TWOW people are going to realize their obsession with /purity/ has nothing to do with what George is writing#cause it's obvious people come to these conclusions based on their personal feelings instead of the actual story#the way Arya stans get called delusional for having the same views on Arya as George does...peak comedy#people always want to debate her greyness without looking at the context of her actions which defeats the whole purpose
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We are 9 episodes in on My Stand In and I'm still hissing at my screen every time Sol shows up.
That man was really out here ranting and raving and being all WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS MAD about Ming as if he was the one being wronged like Joe didn't whole ass watch his damn body be cremated the day before. He really thinks he a main character and he's not even the possible second choice love interest.
Like he really dragged Joe away while he was calling for Ming and then told Joe to snap out of it cause Ming doesn't love him. Good to see he's still willing to physically drag Joe away from things he doesn't like, no matter what Joe wants, even in his second life.
He also has the audacity to be out here refusing to read the damn room and see that Joe looks uncomfortable AF anytime he drops a random "I care about you so much" line because it's not needed nor appreciated. He smooth brought Joe into his press conference to call him his boyfriend! And we all know good and damn well Joe wouldn't have agreed to that.
And then he was out here trying to fight Ming at the afterparty saying he doesn't give a fuck knowing good and damn well it would be Joe's ass if a public fight happened because he is the most unknown of the unknowns, while Ming's family is wealthy and Sol is, at the very least, semi-famous.
He's just always talking mad shit about how Ming is terrible and how he wants to save Joe from him and blah blah, but then he's instigating fights with Ming left and right. And personally, if I knew my friend was with a shitty man, I wouldn't keep antagonizing that man knowing my friend is the one who's dealing with the consequences every time. But I would actually want better for my friend because I care about them as a person and not as an ideal image I built in my head of someone I want to date. And that is clearly where Sol and I differ.
Like Ming is a delusional asshole, no argument there, but Sol is a Nice Guy and nah. I want him GONE. Let him go back to Korea and get some dick there. Cause he's not an option for Joe, nor was he ever at any point during this show, yet he really thinks he has relevancy here. Ming is better than me (or more insecure) cause I would have long since told Sol you don't compare when you don't compete.
#my stand in#my stand in the series#I am here today because I am a Hater#I am a Certified Sol Hater#like I'm sorry he IS NOT a good friend to Joe#simply because he refuses to accept any of Joe's boundaries#and yes Ming is terrible and it would suck to watch your friend be stuck with a terrible man#but nothing Sol has done has helped Joe out of that situation#and in fact has made shit a lot worse with his jealous shit stirring#and no actual friend would be intentionally riling up their friend's shitty man if they actually cared about their friend#I'm not sorry I'm not sorry#Sol could be a good friend to Joe but he'd have to let go of his delusion that Joe will ever pick him#Joe moved on YEARS ago when Sol went ew and ran away to Korea rather than face Joe's homo feelings for him#it's unfortunate for Sol that he missed his chance but it's not Joe's problem to deal with now#and he has said several times he does not see Sol like that#and yet he keeps being all I CARE ABOUT YOU I'D NEVER DO THAT I'LL BUY YOUR SHIT FOR YOU I'LL PAY YOUR DEBTS#it's just not cute#regular clyde
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need to draw them more
#half life#Half life 2#gordon freeman#alyx vance#Freevance#< i mean it doesn't have to be but yknow#I do ship them so yeah ghkdgiygiyd#half life fanart#There is a version with blood but ehh I'd rather not#It's kinda crap HEHEHHE#but if you're on deviantart then you could see it#Nothing special trust me heh#artsy's art
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In the city!
Commission for missyuniverse_ for her fanfic at Wattpad! ( account: Kittens_escapism or juanitasuniverse ) 😊😊😊
#connverse#Connie Maheswaran#Steven Quartz Universe#SU#Those guys I googled for references of the peeps in the background#also random references for the building and such#I used a gaussian blur to blur the background and I'm thinking now I might or should find a different way to blur my background. 🤔#It was an odd experience drawing his vest because I used a real life reference at first and it looked so off. Then I used a drawing referenc#e and it instantly fixed it? So. like. I don't always trust real life reference after that.#I'm crying I really really wish I'll learn to draw facial hair some day.#I mean the client described that he only unintentionally grew stubbles because he got busy with something. but still#Why is my laptop already laggy I already restarted this and Nothing else but Chrome and Medibang is opened. -_-#I took so long to do the background. lol but I'd rather it stay blurred because of how it turned out.#Trust me it looked way bettered blurred. haha#Sorry.. Connie is suppose to be wearing her hair in a cute high ponytail with a small braid added little star accessories.#I'm not sure but I'm hoping the ponytail is still discernable#adult connverse#Okay I did spend this way too long in general but it was still fun drawing it#my shiz#commissioned work
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I don't know I just feel like....
We just watched a man self-immolate in his military uniform. And I don't want to sound like an idiot, because it's much more than this but, couldn't you say that was a very extreme form of conscientious objection?
He could not be complicit anymore, but there is literally no way out of being complicit in this genocide if you live in America. For him especially, being trapped in military service. But for all of us. All of us are trapped in complicity in some way, and we can try to counteract that sin with as much meaningful direct action as we can possibly do, but all of that action comes with some proportional level of risk.
So, a man burned himself alive in an extreme form of conscientious objection (the only form available to him - one of great violence)
And people are still on here telling people to suck it up and vote for Biden.
I just... maybe I'm really stupid and I just can't see the logic y'all are putting forward. Because the way you lay it out it all seems to make so much sense to you. I understand we're trapped in a two party system. I understand the Republicans don't have the same consciences we do and are gonna vote en masse for Trump. I understand Trump is a danger globally and domestically. I understand all that, and I don't want his second term to come to pass. I'm not ignorant of how dangerous he is.
But a man self-immolated to object to the system of complicity he's trapped in, and the most logical response y'all have to a bunch of people wanting to opt out of complicity in this election, and the next four years of horrors that will be done in their name is to tell them, you just have to suck it up and be complicit. Your only tool is to make a phone call. You can try to protest, but there's a non-zero chance you'll be beaten and arrested and have your life ruined, by the way. You can donate to try and put a bandaid on the horrors you're seeing through your phone screen everyday (and you should, but God it's sure not stopping anything). But you're not allowed to object to being complicit in the selection of the Genocider-In-Chief.
It's not going to stop the genocide. We know this. It's not going to stop the election. We know this. It's not going to change anything directly, and Trump is going to get elected (which he will either way. most people who would vote against him are doing it anyway, y'all are fighting a very very small online minority).
But a man self-immolated in his military uniform. He didn't think that act was going to directly stop aid from going to Israel, or stop the genocide, or destroy the US military industrial complex. He didn't think his one small (but extremely brave and impactful) act was going to solve everything. Everything that was going to happen is still going to happen just with one less man in uniform.
But it wasn't nothing. It didn't do nothing. It's not his fault that the military will keep on chugging. It's not his fault that things are getting worse in Gaza every day. But he's not complicit anymore and he sent a message. And he had to die to achieve that.
And y'all are telling us we can't even do the very small act of not being complicit in the presidency. It's a less effective act of protest, but I also don't have to die for it.
It's not a boycott (I've seen this strawman, i don't know why you think we think that). It's not going to "send a message to the government" (obviously, we're not ignorant). It's to the Party that runs these candidates, and makes money off of "pick us because we're not the other guy" then commits crimes against humanity. I don't want to roll over and be fucking complicit in that.
Parties and candidates look at those numbers. they see how many people voted for them last time and how many people this time.
They don't care about our voices, and our protests, and our emails. They care about donations, and they care about votes. That's it. That's all they look at. If the emails and the phone calls and the protests don't result in a drop in one of those two things, they don't fucking care.
I don't know. This is a long ass ramble, but I'm trying to work out my feelings about this. Because we can't opt out of paying taxes, we can't really opt out of the benefits of living and being born in the Global North, we can't opt out of work, we can't opt out of the military, we can't opt out of following the law without extreme violence being brought against us. We can't do a whole fucking lot besides call, email, donate, and protest in a way that doesn't get us beaten and arrested, and if you do get beaten and arrested, you'll be dealing with the legal consequences for years or potentially the rest of your life.
And a man burned himself to death to object but I can't withhold my vote???
#just saw a long ass post that asked the question “what is your objective”#and concluded if you don't have any leverage you should just do nothing#and i really really thought about it because it was very well thought out#but i just can't agree with the conclusion#yes find your leverage and use it#yes tailor your tactics to your objectives#but I'm not wrong to object to the system in the very limited ways that are available to me#i feel like I'm crazy#but I've spent this whole last term regretting breaking down and voting for biden last time when my morals told me not to#i don't think i can do it again#and it's not a baseless moral stance or a self-centered “i don't want to feel bad” one#it just doesn't make sense to me#maybe I'll feel guilty when trump wins and wish I'd chosen differently#but i think#I'll feel like this system didn't give me a choice#and I'd rather not let my voice be used to prop up genocide#than roll over and act like no choice is a choice#“people fought for your right to vote” then they fought for my right to opt out of that as well#I'm not good at outlining my logic but i hope if anyone actually sees this#you understand where I'm coming from
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transmascs stop pretending that transfems are untrustworthy sources for transfeminism challenge impos- fuck i didn't even finish and you already complained about our terminology
#i really hate the expectation to know theory in these shit communities#they're barely communities it feels like on here trans people are unified by strict categorization#constantly infinitely expanding definitions but treating them as immutable and emergent from the core of reality#rather that words used to describe things we experience or the positions we are placed in my transphobic society#we're unified by who is mean to us more than wether or not we actually like each other#and so we must always be ready to litigate our position in these spaces#because they must be Definitionally justified rather than just having a real community where we're treated like human beings#i wish we still had our elders... i wish we weren't so adverse to learning humanly#i wish i could escape the weird black and white fandom thinking but it worms it's way into every community here now#this is why i keep lamenting old t4t spaces#we weren't there to argue theory#we weren't opposed to learning it in fact it was useful and joyful to share with each other#to help describe our experiences and understand where we've been placed in the world#but that's not why we were there#we were there for community to be kind to each other#now it's nothing but a bunch of teenage fandom tme people arguing with fake versions of trans women they invented in their heads#while we just hide in the background wondering if the word community means something different now#or if we're really just so evil to our very cores that we were foolish to think we could have community in the first place#sorry just#needed to vent this shit has been in my head for a while#i wasn't in a place to go to gay bars or trans events when i was first here#i couldn't have local community so finding one here with transfems who loved each other#it was so important to me#and learning that i could cater to that small but kind audience in my sex work is what made me finally love doing it#before then i'd been doing it purely cuz i couldn't get any other job#and before that because i was forced to#there's a lot of trauma wrapped up in my work for me but i healed from it largely because of my sisters i found on here#but i don't know when it went away but it did#and now it feels like we're left in a massive crowd of screaming voices#and i don't recognize any of them anymore
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"The newly widowed Elizabeth (Woodville) was exceptionally vulnerable. Several of the trustees responsible for her jointure refused to hand over the manors that were meant to sustain her in her widowhood. Moreover, her brother-in-law, Edward Grey, had seized estates that her son Thomas should have inherited from his paternal grandfather, while her mother-in-law’s new young husband, Sir John Bourchier, had prevailed on Lady Ferrers to settle her principal properties on them jointly for life, ensuring that Thomas would have to wait far longer for this inheritance too. Rivers and Scales were pardoned in July 1461 and swiftly moved into the Yorkist establishment, which perhaps explains the success of the chancery suits Elizabeth launched to regain her jointure. Her son’s inheritance proved harder to recover. By 1463, Rivers was often in (Edward IV's) company and on his council, but Elizabeth needed someone with much stronger influence over the King. She turned to a distant kinsman, William, Lord Hastings, the King’s chamberlain. Hastings drove a very hard bargain for his aid but it was probably amid these negotiations that the King’s desire for Elizabeth was kindled."
-J.L. Laynesmith, "Elizabeth Woodville: the Knight's Widow", Later Plantagenet and Wars of the Roses Consorts: Power, Influence, and Dynasty
#historicwomendaily#elizabeth woodville#Elizabeth really had terrible in-laws#And these people weren't even the worst of them - that particular award goes to Richard of Gloucester#As complicated as her first widowhood sounds it was a breeze compared to the literal nightmare she went through during her second.#Honestly though: part me wonders what Elizabeth's first marriage was like because we know absolutely nothing about it.#The marriage itself is a blank slate but the fact that her husband's parents & siblings were so indifferent and uncooperative#to her - and their own kid-grandchildren?? - after he died indicates that his family may have been rather dysfunctional imo?#Certainly they (or most of them) don't seem to have cared about the wellbeing or dignity of his young and newly widowed wife which#doesn't exactly suggest closeness or support during the marriage itself from their end.#Elizabeth doesn't mention John Gray in her deathbed will either though she mentions Edward IV. She may have thought it was#'inappropriate' to mention her first husband beside her significantly higher-ranked second husband...but she DOES mention her son by#her first marriage - which would have drawn attention to it anyway - alongside her royal daughter so that's unlikely to have been a reason.#Maybe it was simply the passage of time? She and John had been married for very few years and she lived such a different life after that#So it's possible that her first marriage simply seemed very distant and faraway to her.#Alternatively it may have simply been undivided affection for Edward IV (her husband of 19 years who she married for love)#which fits well into the relatively personal nature of her will.#Of course we don't actually know anything about any of this and this is all pure wild speculation on my end...but I'm curious.#It's really a shame how little we actually know about Elizabeth's life - made worse by the very limited primary records of Edward IV's#reign and the fact that his chamber records don't survive. And it's even more frustrating that this is so rarely actually acknowledged#by historians. I'd argue we know far more about the life & interests of most other 'prominent' women of the Wars of the Roses#(sans the Neville sisters) than we do about Elizabeth Woodville.
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the pro of "crazy dyke" being Your Type (TM) is that it makes you look like you're """One Of The Good Ones (TM)""" or whatever without even trying. you love queer women in fiction & therefore are freed from every fandom conversation about how most people only like the white men. or something. (the truth is you just like women with complex relationships to queerness, womanhood, & oftentimes their cultures as well, for various personal reasons.)
the con of "crazy dyke" being Your Type (TM) is obviously. God Help You if you want to find fandom content exploring your faves with the kind of messy nuance you thrive on.
#it's a very [rolls up sleeves] 'guess i have to do everything myself' kind of situation.#luz and hennessy have almost NOTHING in common personality-wise or values-wise. but wow the crazy dyke is so strong in both of them#being a dyke in a polycule full of dykes who's friends with a bunch of dykes with very complex relationships to race and gender and such#it's like. yeah obviously this is what i'm gonna gravitate toward. this is closest to my lived experience and the experiences of#the ppl surrounding me. you know??#it's not performative it's just. my life. it's just my life.#having a native american partner and a jewish partner having latine and Black and asian dyke friends#these are the stories that are most interesting to me. and yet. so rarely are they the stories that are most interesting to anyone else#it can be. lonely as hell. lol. this post is tongue-in-cheek i'd rather have people who Get Me in fandom than look performatively good.#u know.
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