#there's also thunder

[remitiras]

It's raining!!! Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain rain-

[dark-elf-writes]

Athena in My Goodbye: You need to learn to kill your heart and do what needs to be done

Athena checking back on Ody post Thunder Bringer and seeing him sitting there like:

[mischievous-thunder]

What's their relationship like?

[rainy-xp]

Im gonna pst this here separately just because I can-

But this is the original post!

[wowsillies]

I WISH Jorge had referenced the part of Luck Runs Out where Odysseus tells Eurylochus to be quiet because I feel like that’s an element missing from a lot of Eurylochus interpretations.

“I need you to always be devout and comply with this /Or we'll all die in this” is important because Eurylochus fails to do it by questioning Odysseus’ words (the bag is NOT treasure, it’s storm) and opening the wind bag and his actions lead directly to the facilitation of the death of most of the crew. I hesitate to say he’s to blame because, well, Poseidon is taking revenge due to Odysseus’ decision, but Eurylochus handed him means and perfect opportunity to do it.

So, after that, Eurylochus obeys everything Odysseus says to do. He takes men to explore Circe’s island. He stays put instead of running when Odysseus goes to rescue him. He follows intl the Underworld despite the fact that “hey this witch is helping us now by sending us to death’s realm, this is definitely not a trick” probably raised some questions. He doesn’t (or at least we don’t see) stray or talk to the souls in the Underworld even though Odysseus ends up doing it. He traps and kills the sirens.

He lights and gives out six torches.

So, if devotion to Odysseus wasn’t enough to save them? If Odysseusnis now using that devotion and trust to get them killed as long as he gets to make it home to his wife? What is he meant to do now?

Eurylochus doesn’t sound… fully there, during the second half of Mutiny. Whether there was divine intervention pushing him or madness or simply the pain of it all, he’s not acting rationally. He just saw six of his trusted men brutally murdered, asks Odysseus to lie and say it was a trick, and can’t even kill him when the truth comes out. Odysseus’ wounds are bandaged! (I’m not sure that he doesn’t actually know where Helios’ statue is from btw, both due to the melody and bc it seems outrageous)

We’re all talking about Odysseus pleading for Eurylochus to stop before killing the cows, but Eurylochus is pleading too. He asks how much longer is he expected to suffer, to push through doubt, to follow the orders. And Odysseus’ first plea is “I need to get home” (later “we can get home”). Let’s not forget Odysseus is selfish and Eurylochus knows that, maybe even loves that, but he’s not just hungry, he’s tired.

When Polites gets the location of the sheep cave from the lotus eaters and takes the men to it, he leads several of them to death and himself to his doom. When Eurylochus stumbles upon the cows, does he remember that? Does he deliberately invoke it?

Killing the cows isn’t about the hunger, not really. It’s about the devotion that was asked of him, the price he paid to learn that lesson, and the pain that silence put him through anyway.

[dreamsandconstellations]

Song 21 be like:

[kindaorangey]

dads will literally have a revelation about how poorly they've treated you and then die in a magical act of self-sacrifice just to give themselves the most complicated legacy and you the most inscrutable daddy issues in the world

[gigizetz]

are there any differences with that one scylla animation collab you did and your design now?

tehee yeah I made her cuter

July 2023 /// June 2024 (almost a year since that collab omg)

[ravenlikesbooks]

I think the thing I love about Mutiny is that sure, Eurylochus is angry. Absolutely furious. The way he spits out "captain" gives me chills.

But that's really not the point.

He says "tell me you did not know that would happen, tell me you didn't know how that would end" and "use your wits to try and say I'm crazy and mad, that this is all some trick the gods have sent." And those absolutely sound sarcastic and mad. But they aren't, not fully.

Eurylochus is well and truly begging, for the first and only time. Please, captain, tell me what I know isn't true. Lie to me, try to gaslight me into thinking you made some horrible mistake. Use your gift of persuasion to make me believe, just for a second, that I'm wrong. Don't say the words I know are true, that I know you'll say. Tell me you didn't miss home so painfully bad, that you gave up the lives of six of our friends.

Say something, please.

And Odysseus says "I can't"

[cinnamon-flame]

Wof oc doodles!

[weaselmcdiesel]

":33< kk look!! build-a-cholerbear!!!"

[juniper-clan]

MOON 20: Hier Kommt Die Sonne!

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In other news:

[mischievous-thunder]

A couple that's single-handedly changing the narrative

[yangjeongin]

[cannibalgremlin]

i just wanna point out Scylla is known for eating 6 people from every ship, so her attacking 6 men from Odysseus’ ship is on par for the course. only difference is he told 6 men should have torches and were known sacrifices(to Odysseus and Scylla)

Odysseus is not just a captain but also a King, and also known for basically doing war crimes during troy.

he told Eurolyches to light 6 torches, arguably this could have been the 5 men Eurolychus trusted the most so he made them light it.

Eurolyches and the other 5 men were suppose to be warnings against mutiny while also being sacrifices. but Eurolyches lived(probably gave his torch to someone else) and because he lived the seed of mutiny and doubt lived, Odysseus’s warning basically went no where because the one he needed to get rid of lived.

Odysseus wasn’t just bitter and angry, he was trying to get rid of what could actually get them all killed and it failed. he had to chose between himself and the crew, and Odysseus has always been a symbol of humanity in people. is it really a surprise he chose himself?

wouldn’t you choose to save yourself? especially after you gave warning after warning to everyone?

Odysseus did try to get as many as he could home, but in the end they barely if never heeded his warnings.