#the spn season 13 i deserved

[ananke-xiii]

A dream, mine:

spn s13 but with cas alive and jack's a baby, dean and mary are in the AU and lucifer is still on earth. Somehow sam and cas manage to save jack and themselves from lucifer but now they're on the run and they are both questioning their life choices. Sam's like super pissed because he's been baby trapped by cas of all people and he's now stuck with an unhinged angel and a baby that's half his nemesis, a nemesis with which he shares the most unfortunate, most fucked up, saddest "profound bond" of all time. Cas is pissed too because he was handed the shortest (technically the tallest but shhh) straw by fate and ended up with the wrong brother, what's worst, he's now forced, once again, to re-evaluate all his millennia-long prejudices against all kinds of abominations since he's stuck sharing a car with two of the finest examples ever produced. Jack is just a baby which means he cries a lot, wants to eat, does his things etc and the crying alone is enough to send cas and sam crazy. Cas resents sam because he thinks he's using the angel with the excuse that he doesn't sleep so he can look after the baby. Sam resents cas because he went doing his hot girl shit instead of following his plan. Things reach a boiling point when they're in a gas 'n sip, sam deep in "newborn lore" on his smartphone, trying to understand what a newborn can eat out of gas station food, and cas's exasperated because "we can just wear a white coat, go to a hospital and steal breast milk". Sam snaps and he's like "what IS wrong with you, dude?" and cas is so done so he's like "tell me, sam, what IS wrong with me, sam?". Sam's not dean and he's not above recounting all the times cas has fucked them over, fucked him over, he literally uses his fingers to start counting everything that's just wrong with cas and he sure as hell starts by telling him how thick an actual angel of the lord, "the fucking angel of fucking thursday has no feel" (sam's words not mine), can be to save a person from hell without realizing that the soul's not there when he basically did the same thing for dean so "uh cas, explain this to the hand, CAS-TI-EL"! And cas finds out that, after all, he's not that bad at this feeling and being almost human shit cause he suddenly feels very in touch with his feminine side and he's ready to remind sam how thick can he be to think that god was speaking to him telling him to open the cage, like "what sam, just because amara was speaking to dean, you thought god would have spoken to you, to you, SA-MU-EL?" They're one step close to a catfight, neither of them is shy enough to prevent it, they both can and will grab each other by their hair and grip tight to raise themselves from this domestic hell. But they're in a gas 'n sip, whisper-yelling about angels, hell, souls and god and people begin eyeing them, the clerk reaches for the phone. They stop and realize that, in their current state, they're both two male presenting beings somewhere in their forties or in their vicinity with a screaming baby in cas' arms and one call away from child protection services . Things are not good.

Meanwhile, dean is with mary, fake bobby and fake charlie having the time of his life in the fake purgatory copy that is the AU releasing all his decade-long repressed sexual energy toward a certain angel by killing angels with bullets made out of angel blades and knifing the occasional monster of the week that goes bump in the night. Things are good.

[cryingpencilcase]

watching supernatural for the first time and.. did they just.. say that Lucifer watches drag race..?

[waywardvamp]

I have the same two thoughts all day: 1. Jack Kline deserves friends, 2. Jesse Turner deserved better. Every other thought is just the result of knocking those two against each other like rocks until I get a spark.

At this rate, the Jesse tag is just going to be me talking nonstop about how those two should be best friends and the amount of chaos that would ensue.

[spnfanficpond]

August 2024 Angel Fish Awards

(Angel Fish design by @slytherkins!!)

Every month all of you fantastic writers work your asses off to post some truly incredible stories. Our Angel Fish Awards are the way for all of us, as a community of writers and readers, to lift each other up and give praise to those who have captured our attention and deserve a few kind words. (Click here to learn more about how to nominate a fic for an award!)

Nominated by @autisticandroids

like my waffle house hashbrowns by @spnregular

Extremely unique pwp. It involves at one point jerking off a plant. It also involves Dean comparing Cas to his car: “You know how I take care of my things. Keep ‘em clean, fine tuned,” Dean said, “Just like Baby.” Which is just *chef kiss*. And it's hair-washing kink. Which is so much fun.

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Nominated by @aylacavebear

Things Learned and Unlearned by @dean-winchester-is-a-warrior

The author has a way with words, pulling you into a world all their own. I got hooked on this with the first chapter. This story has ALL the feels and it's not even finished yet. A truly amazing author.

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Nominated by @evadne01

Gabe Lives And Loves by @masoena

I find this story while I was trying to cope after seeing again season 13. And this warmed my heart and I felt so good after reading it! Loved it, loved the arts of the story!

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Nominated by @heavenssexiestangel

A Means to an End by Pieafterdemons

I was looking for some darker stuff to read and as many know, I love Alastair/Dean. So, I found this li'l story here. It's Dead Dove so be warned of the tags and what they entail. I like how the writer wrote the whump and the darkness of it all, and how Dean came to say yes. I also like the dark and yet not stereotypical idea of Alastair.

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Nominated by @leatafandom

Making the Cut by @deeranger

This story was so deliciously dark, creepy, and horrifying. It is wonderfully written, the word choice the way they wove themes through and illicit stomach-turning emotions. It was a thrill to read and just one of new my favorite dark fics. A wonderful read if you're into dark themes.

State of Grace by @cloverhighfive

It's a very different story! Very interesting read!!!

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Nominated by @mariekoukie6661

The Harvest by @cloverhighfive

It's a very different story! Very interesting read!!!

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Nominated by @mrswhozeewhatsis

The King's Seraph Consort (series) by @ladylilithprime

I've been enjoying Lady's Sastiel offerings when I need a little pick-me-up, and this little mini-series made me SWOON! Sam's so heroic! Sam and Dean are devoted to each other! Sam is so kind to Cas! Gabriel is wise, and yet still a wiseass! And this little two-part series is a perfect snack when I don't have time for anything bigger. It's adorable and sweet and makes me fall in love with Sam even more.

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Nominated by @spn-fanfic-reblog-writes

The Perfect Submissive (Google translated title) by Natcumirun (AO3)

The story is in Russian. I use Google translate. Shhh. Aside from the kink, it’s interesting how fear shapes our views and that it tends to take a very confident, knowledgeable person to show that sometimes the fear is just us needing to process childhood pain. It’s an interesting take and I love how the relationship develops between a much older, teacher Castiel and 18 y/o Dean.

Thunderstorm by @anyreiart

This is such a twist to the Omegaverse and the human Castiel. I had never thought of this and so glad someone did. It’s so quaint and domestic. Oh, the fluff is amazing. The connection these two have and how Dean is able to overcome his expectations as well as their relationship hiccups because of his Alpha, it’s beautiful. He even aids in guiding the newly human Castiel and new omega in the human world with his love. Yes, I’m a hopeless romantic.

Soother by @hartlessfiction

I was literally jumping up and down when Dean started arguing with Cas and Cas is so confused, then the pheromones hit. True mates. Just fluffy-fluff, schmoopy and adorable!

Cornerstone by @gracefreakdean

That’s a love story. That’s a true love story. Oh; I hope one day they write more. I’m in love with this beautiful, well-done story that begins like it could be anyone else’s.

Castiel Enjoys Enya by @naked-covered-in-bees

It’s fluffy and cute. Cas is not getting that it's what's on the tapes that Dean likes, not the tape itself but points out that it’s from him, which is why he likes it. I love how Claire explains and their relationship dynamic. Seems so spot on and so canon. I love all of this. It’s an adorable and quick read.

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Nominated by @spnbabe67

Touch Me by @zepskies

As a bigger girl whose love language is physical touch, this hit home. My best friend and adopted sister came from a place where physical affection wasn't prominent so trying to get used to it on both our parts is so real in this writing. Dean's uncomfortableness with the reader's overabundance of physical contact, and the readers self self-consciousness while they are trying to go to sleep is such a real, raw, human thing. I loved this so much!

He's Not A Machine! by @mind-empty-just-fictional-people

I love Stanford era!Dean and this is a scene I 100% know happened at one point. And on a biblical level I needed to have John be read a new one for the way he pushed and pushed Dean.

(Divider by @glygriffe)

THANK YOU ALL, KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK, AND AS ALWAYS, HAPPY WRITING!

- From your Admins and Manta Rays, @manawhaat, @mrswhozeewhatsis, @mariekoukie6661, @thoughtslikeaminefield, @heavenssexiestangel, and @spn-fanfic-reblog-writes!

[thatsveryood]

HAPPY (derogatory) NOV 5TH!

Happy 3 years of suffering together friends!! I've put together some of my fave post-finale(ish) fics in honor of the day, so we may all suffer some more together.

i want to do with you (what spring does with cherry trees) by @sobsicles 74.1k - grief/mourning, (temporary) character death a bit of retconning of the last few seasons of spn - what if dean realized sooner during the widower arc how he felt about cas? how would it all play out? sobsicles always throws me for a loop but this one in particular always gets me sobbing (heh)

All I Want for Christmas by Shadows_Keeper 12.6k - grief/mourning, (temporary) character death, paramedic!dean ft. dean getting to live his damn life after cas goes to the empty and sam/eileen have a family 🥺

now the weight of the world ain't so bad by the_oncoming_stormageddon 9.8k - fluff, getting together but dean is dumb about it in which cas and dean are together except dean doesn't realize it yet

Proverbs 13:12 by starlingcas (@angelcasendgame) 16.3k - literally stuck in a tree, s14 coda, (temporary) character death, they're best friends ur honor that's it, they're literally stuck in a tree and are huge adorably in-love dorks about it 🥺 takes place during s14 but then picks up after the finale which thank goodness

Kingdom Come by ahurston 17.3k - road trip reunion cas comes back 🥺 he and dean drive home and talk (and other things)

and you can use my skin by unicornpoe 5.3k - touch-starved dean, it's so unbearably soft i love it cas comes home and dean can't stop touching him (and i can't stop screaming/crying)

on the sixth day by fleeceframe 5.2k - grief/mourning, heavy drinking “You prayed my name to every angel in Heaven for six days straight.”

take the bones, begin anew by JustStandingHere (@sightofsea) 103k - idiots in love, building a home with your buddy~, stoner!cas in which dean is a huge dummy in love and is working through so so much repression, but he and cas build a home together 🥺

things happen (they do, they do, and they do) by @sobsicles 27.9k - repressed!dean, human!cas, cas stands for casanova another sobsicles bc i'm always wrecked! by! their! fics!!!!! cas comes back and dean is totally normal about it - because it's normal to mourn how straight you are so bc if only you weren't straight so you could make your best friend happy 🙃

ascend by quiettewandering (@wanderingcas) 53.3k - grief/mourning, angst with a happy ending, seriously be prepared for the angst chuck's story can't be changed - or can it? the fantastical ending to a beautiful love story that we deserved!! i cannot tell you enough how much i love this fic, so many chills throughout and that ending haunts me in a good way

hope you enjoy these fics (or enjoy re-reading them!). also if you want to get a destiel is canon pin to celebrate the day and take them off my hands, pls do

[winchestermylove]

i always imagine myself being in spn from season 13 onwards because i always feel so bad about the way jack is treated. he’s always being yelled at for something but if i were there i would protect him with my life. don’t worry baby boy it’s okay. my poor little meow meow you would always be taken care of if i was there. you don’t deserve what happens to you and i will do anything to save you

[deanbrainrotwritings]

hiii sorryyy ive been waiting to respond but I just started a new jobbb so I’m all over the place 😭😭

the pride thing is soooo true!! Like it’s so sick seeing him everywhere but sometimes I’m just like what do you mean they know who he is??? Like I wanna gatekeep but he definitely deserves the fame he’s getting/going to getttt.

AND YEAH BRING BACK THE 22 EP SEASONS like bring back the filler eps I wanna see them sitting around doing nothing thats literally my favourite

-🕊️

it’s totally fine, don’t even worry about it!

I LOVE that he’s everywhere. I never go hungry for too long bc he’s friends with a bunch of people and everyone likes him so they keep him around longer.

I can’t count how many times I’ve re-watched Supernatural just waiting for these 8-13 episode series 💀 like… I love watching SPN and all that, but come on, LET ME SEE JENSEN DO SOMETHING AWESOME AND NEW. But just in general, like… hello??? where’s the filler episodes that ACTUALLY ALSO say/EXPOSE a lot about a character??? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIKE THESE CHARACTERS IF THERE’S NOT ENOUGH EPISODES FOR ME TO GET TO KNOW THEM?????

[clairedelune-13]

I know it’s controversial, but I don’t want an SPN revival. It diesn’t need it. The show ran past it’s expiration date.

It really peaked at it’s eleventh season, which would’ve been the ideal way to end the show. But then season 12 aired and it limped on for three more years. Season 13 at least tried something new with Jack as the sort-of main character, but season 14 and 15 were godawful and the actors just looked as if they were phoning it in. It made Misha almost QUIT ACTING, ffs!

If anything, I think The Winchesters deserves a second season cuz its been set up with more or less new characters, what with them being in an alternate universe and its a new story with fresh spins on the lore.

And they made John and Mary likable for a change!

And then we get Carlos and Lata 💙

[hadesbullshit]

hi hades! i have a lot of strong opinions on a couple specific spn episodes, and id love to hear your thoughts!! i will not judge for your answers, because this show fucking sucks but also its the greatest piece of media ever so any opinion is correct objectively. ok anyways

what do you think about: faith (season 1 episode 13) , roadkill (season 2 episode 16) , and playthings (season 2 episode 11)?

I'm gonna rewatch them to ansure this (bc y be normal about media when u can go ferral) but pre rewatch: Roadkill is one of my fav eps ever.

1x12 (faith is 1x12. 1x13 is Route 666 (also a very good ep as a dean charaitor study if u do want my thoughts it)):

i forgot how much i love this ep. I'm really into religious imagery in any media. dean on deaths door in the singlar reazon I'm gay /j. Sam's desperation to save Dean was always hinted at but this ep really does the "show not tell" thing right in a way most of the show doesn't. john not coming to help dean is one of the reasons i fucking hate the guy. Dean refuses to believe there is a God pre s4 because what god would put him though everything he's been though, i love him so much. the parrales between john and god with Dean's faith in an absent father.

Quotes:"i didn't pick you dean, the lord did" "why do you deserve to live more than my daughter" "it must be ruff. to belive in somerthing so much and have it disappoint you"

2x11:

of the 3 eps this is my least favourite I'm going to be honest but i still love it so much. The twist is so good. the sibling devotion, they would rather be dead together then one of them leave (Sam and Dean prrallels). "what do you mean we look the type" is iconic (Dean vs people knowing he's bi before he does). Sam's break down, begging Dean to be the one who kills him is so well done.

2x16 (this will be looooong):

when the audience learns things after Sam and Dean/the narrative isn't chronological but we think it is, it makes the twists better. Sam wanting to ease Molly into the fact she is dead vs Dean wanting to tell her straight up bc in Sam's life knowing about monsters has only ever been a burden wear as Dean (Has not met Mary yet and doesn't know she knew about deamons) thinks, as John thinks, that he would still have his family if more people knew how to protect themselves. (i might be reading to much into that part but i am a lit & media student). then after the half way point Sam wants to tell her because she thinks David is dead and that is the worst thing in the world for her whereas Dean wants to comic to lying because telling someone the truth this far in would be hard and he cant have emotional convocations to save his life (see also; Gadreel arc).

This ep is so good for rewatching it and putting into context the things Dean says. The resolution of her letting go of the loop AAAAAA.

Every motw ep in spn has a little twist in it and using the different graves to fulfil the audience expectations only to pull the rug out from underneath with the "Molly is ALSO a ghost" .

The enphisis on the idea people are not born monsters especially in relation to Sam. "what ever it is, they just hold on too tight. caught in the same loop" (sam talking about the ghost but also him and Jessica (among others)) and "something happened to them. something they couldn't control" (sam with his whole being a deamon & yellow eyes' army in s2) bc Sam in the early seasons is insane and so full of self loathing.

The question of what happens to monsters after they die (and people) being uninsurable, beng afraid of death and the unknown feels like a nod towards s3 with dean waiting to die having no idea what will happen. "hope is kinda the whole point" them pre hell, and pre knowning just how fucked up every is AAAAAA

[lol-jackles]

it's the second year that I see permanent videos, tweets and posts in which The Boys advertises to get an Emmy. Be it for the cast, the script or the crew. I can't remember ever seeing this happen with any other TV production. Maybe it's because a lot of Ackles fans retweet it. But why is it so important? No offense, the crew was really convincing and Anthony Starr definitely deserved a nomination for me, but why is it being pushed so doggedly and penetratingly? What do you get out of an Emmy? Especially since rumor has it that the show will end with the next season, i.e. season 5.

All shows in serious consideration ($tudio will $pend huge amount of $$ for award campaigns) will have their cast and crew to campaign on their behalf. I think you're seeing this with The Boys because the AAs are aggressive, as usual. Back during SPN season 2, the cast and crew were campaigning on Jensen's behalf for an Emmy nomination by talking him up as the heart of the show. Back then sci-fy/fantasy shows were starting to get respect in serious award categories, only to suddenly stop for the next 13 years until Games of Thrones' final season. During that drought, the talking up of Jensen also stopped.

Amazon Studios really really wants to be taken seriously and be on the same caliber as prestigious studios like HBO, thats why they're pushing so hard for an Emmy, for the respect. Jeff Bazos made it no secret that he wants his own Game of Thrones i.e. cultural zeitgeist. It’s why Amazon over paid high-tier directors and producers to make shows that nobody watches for the chance to get critical praise and win awards.

With that said, Amazon's award campaigns for their shows, including TB, are tame this year compared to previous years. I think they thought Rings of Power would be their award-winning darling and had budgeted for it. When RoP flopped (only 40% of the viewers finished watching the series), Amazon scrambled to reset the campaign strategies.

[ananke-xiii]

So I skipped "Wayward Sisters" because I thought I wouldn't like it and S13 was already such a downer I couldn't be bothered to be more let down than I already was... BUT now I've watched it and WTF?!? It was THE best episode of S13, I NEED to watch this spin-off, I can't believe it didn't happeeeeen! When will this show stop giving me HEARTBREAK?!? Will it ever end? Will I ever be able to get out from this crazy craziness that is Supernatural??

Also: I know an Angel of the Lord's phone number is not something one passes around like it's no big deal... but please, Jody NEEDS Cas's phone number ASAP (yeah, in MY world Cas and everybody else are still pretty much alive, hence the present tense).

Also 2: Sam Winchester's disgusted face was EVERYHTING.

[garnetcapricorn]

Alright, so I'm on season 13 of spn (again) and I have Things To Say

mostly just Jack!!! omg Jack!! my boy! he's just a baby🥺🥺🥺

like immediately he's my new favorite

and I started thinking about the wayward sisters, and Ben, and other kids the Winchesters have encountered... I remembered I really liked that s5 episode with the little antichrist kid: Jesse Turner, a half-demon half-human who ran away, never to be seen again.

...unless? well what if he came back? and met Jack? what if they became besties? what if they caught feelings🥺💘 and had a friends to lovers situation 👉👈

because angel/demon ships slap!! I love them! cosmic Romeo & Juliet vibes ✨️😇😈

so obviously a half-angel and half-demon would also be amazing, right??!

and I think to myself "surely, others agree" and go over ao3 like u do and--

ok I admit I didn't expect a Ton of fic but wow I was not prepared for <20😭

so I find myself in rarepair hell and now I have to write my own fluff/smut/hurt-comfort/crushing-getting together fic for my boys🫡 because they're adorable and deserve it💛 I have like 6k words down which is more than I've ever written in my life🫠

that's all for now. I have more Thoughts but really needed to get this intro part off my chest

Thanks for coming to my TedTalk✌️

[musicandwordsandheart]

Carry On

This is in no way going to be a unique post. There have been hundreds, probably thousands, of others just like it. All the same, I'm going to add mine. Because like all those thousands of others, this show means something to me.

It took me just over a decade to finish the entire series. That doesn't seem like long when talking about a TV show that ran for 15 seasons, but I finished the first 8 seasons in a single summer.

That summer. I can't hear Kansas or any of the show's other cues without immediately being transported back there, to that little post-college apartment in Vegas. Being the only one in a 4 person place because all the others had finished their student teaching and left. I stayed behind, deciding to finish out the semester at the school I would be taking over that fall, getting my last bit of training in, stepping into my big-girl shoes.

So I was alone. Just recently had my first root canal, which meant I was still addicted to the "chocolate-covered strawberry" shake I found at the nearest Sonic. I had no plans that night. I made a pot of instant flavored rice and took it, my shake, and my laptop to my room; being in the living room of an empty and un-lived in apartment wasn't appealing anymore. I remember starting with most of the lights off, all except my beat-up little Target bedside lamp. I'd heard about this show for ages, wasn't ever sure it was for me, but decided I'd try it that night. Why not?

Within minutes, I had every light in the entire apartment blazing. Door locks were triple-checked, rice abandoned, and I was hooked.

What happened next was the final and real transition from college to adult-life. I went home for the summer and, in between prepping for my new challenge ahead, I squirreled away in my parents' cool basement, bingeing this show as a way to calm my (then undiagnosed) anxiety. I stayed up too light, sobbing into the night by myself over Sam's (first) death. Then Dean's. Then the perfection that is Season 5. Then everything that followed. At some point that summer I began investing in the DVD sets, some scrounged from eBay, some purchased straight off Walmart shelves or Amazon. I finished season 8 with 2 weeks to go before I made the big move--2 months before the 9th season would premiere.

In my new life, I DVR'd every episode, had Pinterest boards and Tumblr posts full of SPN fandom. I went to a convention. I loved it so, so much.

But life is tricky. I watched religiously until halfway through season 13, when things became unmanageable and I was pulled too far under in my battle with anxiety. I pressed pause for a bit. I got my mental health and my life together, I found other things that I loved so much. And then I moved across the world.

Couldn't access the final 2 seasons while they were airing live, and sometimes the VPN wouldn't even let me tune in to catch up on Netflix, so I was sort of forced to let it go.

Last year, I started again, back home for another summer in that same house. I started from the beginning. This time, I made it through the first 12 seasons before moving back, before relying on a VPN once again.

By now, I knew the ending. I had seen the spoilers, the controversy. I had seen the real-life stuff between actors, been disappointed by certain choices, baffled by others. I had been out of the diehard fandom for years now. I had also, like all of us, lived through a global pandemic. I knew so many were disappointed with how this show had gone out. Still, in the back of my mind, I knew I needed to finish.

And today, finally, thanks to a typhoon-forced day off, I have.

For me, I get the complaints. Well, not so much the complaints, but the sense of... 아깝다. 아쉽다. What a shame. It's a shame that a show like this, that means so much to so many people, had to go out with a Covid-induced whimper, not the bang it deserved.

But I still cried. I still felt that sense of loss. This show....it means so much to me. It got me through some tough times. It walked with me through the transition to adulthood. It was my everything for so long.

Although...it's been freeing in a way. Knowing I have finished, seen it through to the end. Now, whenever I'm feeling that urge (it should be no surprise that it usually hits me every summer, when days start getting hot and I crave chocolate-strawberry shakes) I can start wherever I want. Stop in on all my favorites, or binge it all. It's always gonna be there, just like it always was.

It may have taken me a decade, but I'm so glad this show exists.

[j2memories]

Entertainment Weekly (May 12th 2023)

The Winchesters has more story to tell, and they're ready to fight for it

Following its cancellation, The Winchesters' cast is speaking out about finding it a new home.

By Samantha Highfill

Published on May 12, 2023

For years, The CW tried to figure out how it could capitalize on the success of Supernatural, its 15-season phenomenon following Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) as brothers destined to save the world… more than once. During Supernatural's run, the network attempted to launch not one but two spin-offs to no avail (though Wayward Sisters deserved better).

So when Supernatural ended in 2020, fans thought they were done with that world (at least until Padalecki and Ackles feel it's time for a revival). But during quarantine, Ackles teamed up with his wife, Danneel, to launch Chaos Machine Productions. One of their big priorities? The Winchesters, a Supernatural prequel that would follow Sam and Dean's parents, John and Mary, as they met in the 1970s and launched a family legacy.

"If you're going to spin off from this world, it's gotta be about a main character, it's gotta be about a Winchester," Jensen Ackles told EW at the time. "I think it was Danneel who was like, 'Well, it's your mom and dad.'"

On Oct. 11, 2022, The Winchesters premiered, offering fans a welcome return to the Supernatural world. With Dean narrating, the series introduced a young John (Drake Rodger), home from Vietnam, as he met Mary (Meg Donnelly) and discovered the truth that would come to define their lives together: Monsters exist.

For 13 episodes, fans were back in the world they loved — this time around, though, things were a little different. As any good prequel does, The Winchesters expanded on the world and the lore of the flagship series, striking that crucial balance between the new and familiar. They'd cracked the code on how to keep this story alive without Sam and Dean, by shifting the focus from brothers to friends and, for the first time, telling a central Supernatural love story.

In its final episode, The Winchesters opened up the world by revealing that we weren't watching Sam and Dean's John and Mary, but rather the John and Mary of another universe. In other words, the multiverse is the limit when it comes to future stories. "I feel like episode 13 was us literally dropping the engine block in and being like, 'Okay fire it up,'" Ackles tells EW. "We blew the proverbial doors off. I think the potential is massive."

Yes, the potential is massive, even after the show's cancellation by The CW, because he and the cast have already launched a #SaveTheWinchesters campaign to find the story a new home. "There's a lot of story to tell here and there's a huge fan base that is very actively engaged and willing to support it," he says.

The power of the SPN Family has been documented many times (and cannot fully be explained). It's how the show landed its first EW cover back in 2016 — because the fans voted for it. It's a passion that Ackles saw the instant he tweeted out the news that the show had been canceled. "They are fired up," he says of the fans. "I love that about this fandom. I love that they are so passionate about this world and this universe and these characters that they are willing to go to the mat for a show like this. I think that speaks volumes, especially to those who are willing to listen and have the power to do something about it."

As for Ackles, he's feeling optimistic about a future for the show. After all, Dean Winchester's been knocked down more than a few times, and that's never stopped him from getting back up.

"I do feel hopeful and I don't know whether that's just the optimistic side of me, which I didn't know existed in this capacity," he says with a laugh. "I've been moving more toward a curmudgeon, more toward what we all thought Dean Winchester would dive into when he got older. That's just the Dean in me. But I do have this crazy optimism for this show and I think it largely resides in the energy that we found on set with this cast and this crew. That crazy optimism is one of the reasons why this show made it on air in the first place, and I think it's one of the several reasons why the show should continue somewhere."

For those wondering, Ackles says they've already started discussing ideas for what a new season could hold. "We were talking not only about story and where we wanted to take our cast, we were talking about who we were going to bring back from the mothership," he says, adding that he received text messages from a few Supernatural alums who were bummed they didn't make it on season 1. "We were putting together a lot of tricks to keep up our sleeve and keep it exciting, not just for the new fans but for the returning fans as well."

Much like creator Eric Kripke had at the start of Supernatural, Winchesters showrunner Robbie Thompson has a five-season plan for the story. "Hopefully we get to execute that," Ackles says. "I just think that there's a way to keep this alive and it would be a shame to let that go."

Looking even further into the future, Ackles adds, "And then we don't know what it would look like beyond that but there was certainly a way of tying this into like a possible return of Supernatural down the line, which Robbie and I had talked about. It's something that Jared and I have talked about, what that might look like."

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[castiel]

re your poll about destiel on the winchesters because my comment was too much for tags.

in my opinion reciprocated destiel (or really any major character development for og show characters} belongs in a continuation of supernatural and not as a part of a winchesters season 2.

on the winchesters having dean and cas get together or appear to already be together would take all the audience attention away from the actual leads of the show, which would be a shitty thing to do to the cast because nobody would be talking about anything else, and at the same time the show would probably make the reciprocation a much smaller plot point than it deserves to be because it's not the focus of that show.

also it seemed clear from the winchesters finale and from jensen's comments after it that we won't see dean again on the prequel. we'll probably hear his voice reading out the journal entries because he left a journal with john and mary and that's where the voiceovers have been coming from, but there's no reason for him to appear on it anymore because he's no longer interacting with that universe. it would be weird and disjointed if he just had random scenes doing things in a separate universe to the show's characters unless they were going to interact again in some way, and it doesn't seem like there's any reason for him to do that again at least not so soon. story wise it just doesn't maek sense.

everything jensen and misha in particular have said about what might come next for their characters has always been in the context of a hypothetical continuation separate from the winchesters, as well. there was even that leak from a meet and greet a little while back where we found out misha and jensen talked about cas coming back for a cameo in the finale but decided that when we see cas again he needs more than a cameo role. to me all of that makes it seem like a continuation is something they've been talking about . and that's the only place i'd expect to see or even want to see dean reciprocate because it deserves to have a big focus that wouldn't be fair or logical on the winchesters.

ooo ok lol let me dive into this

first of all, i only framed the poll in the terms of being on s2 of the winchesters because that’s all that’s being talked about right now in terms of what’s coming next for spn. there’s the usual nebulous talk of a “reboot/continuation” but nothing solid.

this doesn’t mean i would ideally want a dean/cas reunion on the winchesters, just that i saw that as the only real possibility at this point in time.

secondly, i personally don’t think that jensen’s comments mean that he wouldn’t be in s2 of the winchesters. i just don’t think anything that he’s said has definitively ruled that out.

thirdly, no, not everything jensen and misha have said about coming back has been in terms of a continuation separate from the winchesters. they’ve both said that they had talked about having cas on the winchesters, and not just as a cameo in the finale. it seemed pretty clear that they wanted more room for their reunion, which wouldn’t have fit in the reduced 13 episodes s1 of the winchesters. misha has literally said that if s2 of the winchesters happens that he’d be happy to be cas in it.

and let me reiterate that this doesn’t mean that i WANT for them to reunite on the winchesters. i too would prefer it be in a different series. you’re right that it deserves its own space to really be fleshed out.

[the-gray-ghosty]

Okay I've seen a few people talking about the "The Bad Place" episode; with the dinosaurs, and I had a horrible amazing thought/headcanon....

Sam should have been able to befriend a velociraptor, where it then follows him and Dean back to their universe.

Every time Dean is rude or snaps at Sam, the velociraptor just full on POUNCES on Dean like "BITCH nobody talks to my friend like that"

Sam brings it back to the bunker where Jack just adores it, naming it and feeding it and making it a "room/nest" in one of the back rooms in the garage of the bunker.

Cas thinks it's hilarious and since he's already seen dinosaurs, he can name the exact type of velociraptor it is.