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akq96618 · 6 months ago
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toei don't do this to me
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wackywatchdotcom · 30 days ago
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on the subject of pomni and zooble im deeply invested in seeing how their dynamic plays out. theyve had like.... two proper interactions. one of which is barely even both people like zooble delivers Bad News to pomni and pomni doesnt really seem like shes noting whos saying it so much as the fact that shes being told things by a bunch of strangers and is panicking about it and then zooble scowls in the bg for the next five minutes before jax drags ragatha and pomni off. the most theyve actually interacted is in ep 4 when zooble asks pomni abt ep 3, pomni tells them and then they get deeply upset for a reason that revolves around 'why did caine think i would enjoy possession'
we generally dont really know what their dynamic even is they just kinda exist around each other. that said zooble tends to sound harsh like half the time but like... theyre not mean theyrw just blunt. i think above all else zooble is actually more concerned w the safety of the other cast members than one would assume. we see it best in eps 2 and 4 i think. in ep 2 theyre patient w ragatha, smth theyre not in the pilot. but the circumstances are different. in the pilot this is just another shitty day, that keeps getting worse. they dont even get to sit out the adventure despite being told they can. but ep 2 they get time to themself, and know ragathas probably not really handling things well
and i think abt it a lot but them being ragathas designated driver is like. really notable imo actually. because ragatha isnt in danger. its unclear where theyre driving or if theyre driving, but zooble goes oh, ragatha cant be trusted to drive. even though ragathas been pissing them off all day. even though if ragatha actually got herself injured it would be fixable and its unclear if ragatha would even notice. if zooble didnt care they couldve just left. if zooble was worried abt gangle theyd have stayed (theyre clearly concerned for her, but i dont think they read it as danger- so making sure ragatha stays physically safe becomes a higher priority. it also says smth abt the amnt of faith they have in gangle, even if it was technically misplaced here. i think they get worried about gangle but to them the highest risk member is kinger, not gangle. on some level i dont know if theyve been in the circus long enough to see any patterns in when people abstract). but they make sure ragatha gets back safe. because she pissed them off that day but could tell something was up, and that even if shed be okay in the end, they wanted to be sure that ragatha wasnt hurt
i think it speaks to the actual level of concern they exhibit for the others. theyre cautious. them and pomni ar ethe most visibly distrusting of caine. and i think it relates to zooble not having been here long. jax and ragatha in particular may ebe able to ignore the slapstick bullshit of the circus, may be able to walk off an injury just fine because its just part of life, but as far as zoobles concerned they want to avoid it if possible. i think they know its not normal for things to be this way and they cant change it but they can stop pointlessly harmful things from happening
i think their spiel abt the others in ep 3 is also very telling in that they actually have a really flattering description for ragatha and gangle. ragathas too nice, and i dont think thats obliviousness. i think zooble is one of the more emotionally intelligent characters, they just have little patience and arent 'sweet' about it. theyre extremely aware of the other characters imo. they just... genuinely think ragathas nice. i dont think ep 4 even changed that. and gangles too ahy to speak up. they say this not in a way thats critical. in fact its one of the calmest things theyve said in the whole show im pretty sure. they care abt her and know how she feels even if shes not confident enough to say it to caine
and getting back to pomni is that their assessment of pomni is that 'she looks traumatized everytime she comes back for one' (iirc some other translations are even more explicit in this description of pomni as being impacted by the adventures). implying theyve not only been very much paying attention, but q the way they say it they seem Genuinely Concerned. i think on some level theyre irritated by pomni, not on a personal level but bc pomni is The New One. she hasnt settled in, and i think zooble gets irritated by the song and dance of a person finding out that what they already have to cope with as being Their Life Forever, Now is also theirs. but its not personal, and i dont think its smth zooble holds against her. but i think zooble has definitely picked up on the fact that pomni is having a very rough go at it for her first days- esp since the harshest they get is before caine gives his spiel abt the fake exit door or before its clear that pomni saw kaufmo, too. and from the start of ep 4 its clear that they heavily dislike the measures caine is taking to appeal to them (and id argue that part of their response to caine is in part frustration at him putting the others at risk, but thats getting more into my personal speculation without a huge basis)
i think zooble is a person who largely expresses care for others through concern and, honestly to some degree, helping people. which now that i say it is fascinating considering ragathas whole deal. and the trajectory pomnis going in. or the fact that im not sure they know kinger all that well yet (they know a bit abt him but i think without talking to him in the dark a person would miss a large amount of context). or their deeply interesting dynamic with caine, a person who prides himself on his role as an entertainer for others and has no other goals at all. it creates an interesting contrast when i think theyre one of the few characters who even helps others successfully at all
anyway, this all got off track and wasnt what i actually even made this post to talk about. my intent was to mention that i dont think zooble has actually seen pomni when shes more stressed. i mean theyve seen her post ep 2, which is notable, and theyve seen her get panicked in the pilot and probably saw her Not Looking Well at the feast. but ehile the audience has seen pomni Freak Out and be jumpscared or launch herself at a gate (plus select members of the cast), zooble has certainly not. we also have that advert where ahe attacks jax that is noncanon but depicts a aide of pomni not seen super clearly in the eps yet, that of which being violence. all of this is to say im not sure zooble actually knows about pomnis capacity to attack things and i find it funny to imagine zooble finding out and getting startled because they knew pomni was nervous but they havent seen that side of it yet
(and to a lesser extent, i think gangle- and ragatha sort of- are the only characters whove actually seen pomnis capacity to be patient with people. gummigoo doesnt remember. its implied kinger forgot- even if its vague how much he forgot pomni was scared thru most of that and the brief moment of patience she had was VERY short-lived. ragatha got pomnis little apology type thing in ep 3 but thats it. i think gangle is the one whos actually seen the most of this from pomni. so i imagine gangle probably has one of if not the most flattering image of her of the entire main cast, despite the fact that pomni does actually say smth that upsets gangle too earlier- which ive been meaning to make a post abt how each of the cast members upset gangle in a way unique to that persons own issues but thats smth ill talk abt later- and i think gangle wouldnt blatantly state this in detail to zooble, maybe say that pomni helped her out, but i think if gangle told zooble abt this at all itd make zoobles image of pomni even more skewed. and way more likely that seeing pomni attack someone would startle them)
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petrichal · 2 months ago
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One Piece 1141 Talk: there's a non-zero chance that This Guy might come back and i'm totally being normal about it
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*pictures of Enel and Elbaph falls out of my pockets as I try to collect them in a panic* okay waiT so LISTEN-
(This is a chapter review so I wanna talk about it first before going into my dumbass prediction lmfao-)
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Started off with Nami complaining about not getting treasure and can I just say how cute she looks here just a tiny thing on the edge of the ship. She can have all the treasure she wants idc 🙂‍↕️
(You might think she's a coward but I got really reminded of how she'd jump over rooves during Water 7 (during the RAIN even) and I appreciate these moments where its like. If this was a normal person, they'd probably NOT hang over the edge of a flying ship lmao. In the world of monsters roaming over the sea where Nami might be seen as normal, I love how these tiny reminders that she's very much not that.)
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Then we see Nami joining up with Usopp (which was SO cute btw that he was showing her off and "hey hey watch it" when other people compliment her on her looks) and Usopp drunk is the funniest thing actually?? "Is there no hero who will draw Excalibur from its sheath?!" is so fucking funny to me and then HE SLAPPED THE SWORD ON HIS HEAD SKDHLSKJ
If I had a needle stuck on my arm and someone went and tweaked it, I would've been on the news dawg like why did he do that LMAOO
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Comedy Piece did NOT stop there too, because we cut to Luffy and Zoro and in a bizarre (but not unfamiliar!) turnout, we got banter between the two of them where Luffy plays the straight man to Zoro's shenanigans.
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Zoro kicking Loki and saying "oh so he's really injured" like yeah man I bet he is now dshfdkl and Luffy looked like he's had enouGH lmao. Oda's on his A game with the Strawhats' dynamic on Elbaph, I really find myself laughing in some moments throughout the chapters we've seen so far. It's definitely a mood change from Egghead, that's for sure.
And speaking off mood changes (and i really love Luffy's face here btw)-
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Hajrudin comes in from the sky and warns Luffy again of Loki, that he's really this "cunning, cruel, vicious, backstabbing and conniving villain", and that if he's said anything sympathetic, then he was lying.
I want to highlight this and say that, well, Hajrudin probably knows Loki better than us or Luffy. But one thing we know about Luffy is that he's a good judge of character, and if he says someone's trustworthy then they probably are, 80-90% of the time. It's interesting to me because it feels like we're going into that "is Shanks evil or not" territory but with Loki instead, and the narrative is trying to convince us of either one "truth".
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This page is crazy btw. Loki reveal crazy. His looming figure casting a shadow on his face as Luffy looks up- Giants really are terrifying, and it's on one hell of a panel to be reminded of the fact.
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And see here that Loki had been lying, not through his words but with his actions.
He pretends to be passed out so Zoro could let his guard down and unlock him, and it's definitely an underhanded move on his part. Whether it's done out of malice or something else is unsure though, because it's not like we know Loki's whole deal yet (aside from that one time he said he'll be the Sun God to ruin the world or smth along that line which is…. concerning tbh), but one thing for sure is that he's probably going to raise some havoc on Elbaph before any of them can subdue him.
The next thing is. Um. My Enel prediction- Which I admittedly have a bit of an agenda on because I'd be so happy if it happened purely on the basis of it'll be really damn funny (for me)-
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This seemed like foreshadowing to me. Elbaph is on the road to ruin, some way or another, and it'll be by fire or lightning.
Now you might think what the hell does Enel have anything to do with this other than lightning being mentioned, but I want to connect the murals found on the moon with the Harley's legend. There's clearly an emphasis on ancient civilizations in Elbaph and on the moon, and it would be cool (and also timely) to see both perspective intersect. If there's anyone to weigh in on the lost history of the world, hell, Enel might just be the one to have something to say about it 🤔.
Fire being the ruin to Elbaph feels impossible at the moment because Devil Fruits that has to do with burning or heat that we know of have been accounted for already (Sabo, Akainu, even Oven).
Loki might have a Devil Fruit that has something to do with the "sun/sun god" because he proclaims himself as such and had a great desire to procure the Devil Fruit and killed his father over it, and that Devil Fruit might have flame-related properties (Not to keen on this though- 3 is already too high a number for similar DFs imo).
You know what hasn't been accounted for though? One whose Devil Fruit is quite literally the element mentioned and no one else has anything similar to it???
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BAM. ENEL.
It's either him or some freak weather patterns that'll rival Raijin Island to burn Elbaph into a crisp (hell, maybe even NAMI????), but if Enel really shows up, just know that I'll do a big YIPPEE and jump around like an idiot. That's it, that's my bet on predictions that I'm gonna hold on to- and if it's not on Elbaph, surely Enel's gonna show up at some point (☝️🤡)
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nataliaphantomhivesblog · 3 years ago
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(Sorry I send you so many asks but I love your takes) If Kiyo, Miu, Kiibo and Kokichi created themselves a group about how unfairly treated they are, how do you think it would turn out to be in the game? Those 4 had were little respected by the others and had many reason to actually dislike the rest of the cast. Kiyo was treated like a freak, Miu didn't get the appreciation she deserved, Kiibo never got the respect he deserved and Kokichi just got the short end of the stick even for unfair reasons (I admit there were times when he deserved it).
This is genuienly a very good question!! Things would have been super interesting if these group of characters actually got together considering their circumstances.
So how would they band together exactly? A part of me feels like this would be because of Kiibo's doing.
I think for Kiibo to try and form a group with the outcasts would be self-explanatory considering the dynamics he shares with them in canon.
Firstly, Kiibo actually got to know Miu very well to the point where it could be heavily implied that he got to know her even better than half of the V3 cast.
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In ch5 Kiibo also literally tried to talk to Kokichi in hopes that they could peacefully get Kaito back without the other characters resorting to violence against him.
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As for Kiyo, I don't remember Kiibo particularly having any genuine opinion on him, but one could assume that he did not have any ill-feelings towards Kiyo before chapter 3.
With that being said, Kiibo is the only character who seemed to be more empathetic for the ones who were dismissed by others.
Then we have Kokichi, and well he is hands down the most self-aware character in the group.
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He has called out on the groups hypocrisy many, many times.
But theres one particular thing Kokichi says that I think is very interesting.
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So he says this right after Miu dies and I think this is pretty self-explanatory. None of the characters (except for Kiibo) tried to genuienly get to know her. They all avoided her constantly.
But then when shes found dead everyone is now suddendly "sad"? Honestly, its pretty evident that most of the characters here were frustrated that they had to do another class trial.
Now Kokichi here talks about how everyone hated her but not as much as they hate him. He obviously knows the rest of the cast dislikes him which sometimes him being disliked can be reasonable, but it is to the point were he gets constantly dismissed and treated like someone who isn't stuck in the same boat as them.
As verbally reckless Kokichi can be, he has called his classmates out multiple time on their bullshit but of course he gets immedietly shut down when he does so.
While Keebo is the one who tries his very best to understand everyone, Kokichi is the observant one who actively realizes the mistreatment of others.
I think that if Keebo tried to form this group and include Kokichi in it, Kokichi would accept out of curiousity but eventually, he is going to realize how he genuienly needed people to actually accept him for who he is.
(tbh I think he would boast about being the leader of that clique and Miu would be so offended claiming no one could tame her or smth lol)
Kokichi being able to be in a group with people who acknowledge him and his efforts would have pretty much prevented him doing his mastermind plan, thus him and Kaito would've been alive.
The next in the group would be Miu and as brash as she can be at times, she is someone who is genuienly hesitatant and scared to trust others. Which of course is completely understandable considering they are in a killing game.
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But I think that Keebo would have helped her be more trusting with other people, or atleast with the group that he would be trying to form.
If Miu wasn't excluded by the main cast and she had a solid friendgroup, that would have inevitably stop her from wanting to kill Kokichi.
I think that she would be the first person to join the group if we look back at her dynamic with Keebo. She would definetly be hesitant to let others join but would eventually give in.
I feel like Kokichi would boast to Kaito and the others about having the ultimate inventor in their group but he would obviously put her down at the same time because hey, it is Kokichi after all.
Miu would be very open about her fears of the killing game with the group, she was open to Kokichi in canon about her fears even when they weren't super close so I think she would be a lot more open about her feelings and that conversation would make the others open up too.
And it would probably make Keebo encourage her that it's okay to be alert but that trusting others is a better way to survive.
And then we have Kiyo who I personally think would be pretty hard including into this bunch considering he was already planning on killing the girls he found fit for his sister.
But theres one thing for certain: Kiyo views everyone as friends.
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With that being said, Kiyo would waver between being in the group or just remain being an outsider.
Don't get me wrong, Kiyo suffered a lot of dismissal and injustices by many throughout the game and he seems to be aware of these things too, but I keep thinking about the fact that he was observing intently on who was worthy of being his sisters friend that being in the group could be considered a distraction.
On the contrary to the other 3, Kiyo is so used to being an outsider even before the killing game because of how much his sister tended to isolate him.
Keebo had professor Idahashi, Kokichi had D. I.C.E, and Miu supposedly had a lot of support from people because of her inventions.
Kiyo also doesn't really care for Keebo because he isn't human, he sees Kokichi as an insufrable brat, and well he saw Miu as an exception to be one of his sisters friends... Which is considered a bad thing in his book.
Kiyo could join but not 100% join, maybe he would join as an observer and silently use his views on humanity on them and judge them in both good ways and bad ways.
I think he would still be very greatful with the fact that he was being genuienly included in something. And Kiyo being the killer in ch3 would actually leave an emotional impact on the group, but they would eventually overcome it.
Which in its own way would be good consideirng they would actually care about Korekiyo dying and use his death to move forward.
On a very unrelated note, I feel like Gonta would gradually shift between the "main" group and the outcast group considering he cares about everyone.
But honestly, if these characters weren't excluded at all in the canon storyline sooooo many deaths would have been prevented.
(also im sorry for the late response! I've been pretty busy these past few days)
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sarcophagid · 3 years ago
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Uhh what’s your favorite TR arc and why??
BLACK DRAGONS CHRISTMAS MURDER ARC
i think ive talked abt this b4 but it just has so much stuff i like in it. its my favorite in terms of storytelling i'm not deep i like easily recognizable gimmicks for babies idc. theres a bunch of reasons i like it so:
the kisaki-hanma-chifuyu-takemichi teamup i love their begrudging cooperation and their hostility...i miss them every day... when will C4U/KillemAll/The Hanmas come back from the war... i see them in every group of 4... the wiggles, teletubbies, tmnt... it was a team born to die but what a beautiful birth...
i think the tenuous dynamics between the gangs at the time was fun the suspense was good. baji just died, kisaki and hanma still in toman, black dragons about to go warring with everyone, no one likes each other it was a great spawning ground for drama
yuzuha was one of my favorite main characters of the arc... no one else understands this... her sigma philosphy of killing taiju. i talked about this more in an older ask but in summary: i like the “inescapable violence” theme in the christmas arc. yuzuha kills taiju to protect hakkai, hakkai takes the blame to protect yuzuha and becomes BD leader to end up just as corrupt as taiju, cycle of doom. neither yuzuha and hakkai had any bad intention they had the same ‘desire to protect, to do good’ that got pushed to the point of doing bad things. even taiju seems to have his version of good will but theres just something up with that guy dawg.
i really wish they’d say smth abt yuzuha in the future of the manga bcz what is she even doing while her little brothers in the middle of the chaos but also the plot has expanded so much by now that unfortunately she probably won’t make another major appearance -_-
on the other side, taiju was my favorite antagonist, i never draw him but he has one of my favorite designs in the series even though every panel of his jumpscares you. takemichi saw him once and immediately started getting night terrors
going off on a tangent though, i'm... iffy about the 'redemption'. i like taiju but this is on the level of him being an imaginary dude with a big role in a story. the point of the story is that you dont like him, hes still a huge douchewagon... i don’t think the main cast (including hakkai) would still be cool with him even though its been 2 years it’s not something that just ‘gets better with time’. taiju didn’t even really say he was gonna be a better person (im pretty sure he said smth the opposite lmfao but i don;t remember well). in the timeskip, it could be interpreted that he did make an effort to improve given how seriously he took grieving hakkais death, but thats 10+ years after the affair, and even then it’s only an implication! that sketch of taiju with mana and luna never sat right with me why does mitsuya trust him sm all of a sudden...in my opinion they really didnt need him to return?? there are better candidates to nearly castrate sanzu for threatening takemichi, fight the living legends, etc. (what happened to the rest of toman, or just ask anyone here they’ll nominate their little boyfriend ran haitani or smth) i could talk about this a lot but TLDR i think it’d be fine if he just went away lol you dont need to have them make up it doesnt make sense
honorable mention! tenjiku arc was fun i liked getting to see the stories of the side cast (esp kawata brothers, mucho, emma)
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cutemeat · 2 years ago
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3, 7, and 10!
3. what are your top 3 favorite episodes?
I have many many manyyyy faves (and also got this question a bunch, which excites me so dont worry ab that) so im gonna do different themes for my top 3's...
my top 3 fave eps of eps that I've rewatched the most are: The Gang Gets Romantic, The Gang Group Dates, and The Gang Dances Their Asses Off (with Dennis Reynolds: An Erotic Life as an honorable mention lol)
7. what’s something that we haven’t seen in the show yet that you’d like to see?
i clearly wanna see some resolution or 'get together' scene ONSCREEN (cuz i have argued previously that they HAVE already banged offscreen in Dennis Gets Divorced) but I'd like to see, at the very least, going from writing Macdennis as subtext to making that the overt text. Which, in their defense, they've started doing since s12 ... but I just hope they execute the culmination of the storyline they started in s12/s13 in a way that.. does not suck ass. and i'm usually willing to give rcg a lot of leeway about this particular thing cuz like. theyre str8 they dont know any better LOL. but yeah i wanna see mac and dennis kiss, fuck, date, idc! something!
other things i'd like to see: i'd like to see charlie getting some cathartic 'snapping' arc where he goes back into the badroom and in the vents and the gang cant get him out cuz hes rlly emotional (like as a result of his dad dying or smth) and he basically just snaps, Phantom of the Opera style but he'd be like the Phantom of Paddy's... and maybe this is all while Dee's trying to host an event of whatever kind and so hes just lurking around the whole time trying to sabotage the event... maybe he kidnaps someone LOL thatd be ccool
i also would LOVE to see waitress becoming a more recurring character, esp to team up with Dee. I'd ideally like to see them move IN together n be a duo, but I'll take what I can get. I also just wanna see Dee going crazy. I kinda want Dennis and Dee to have a swap where DEE is the angry, spiteful one and Dennis is just sad and pathetic at his lowest yknow? LOL. Like I think they could easily do this as well, and it seemed to me like they experimented with that kind of dynamic in Gets New Wheels. and lastly, PUT DEE IN THE DUSTER!!!!
i'd like to see more of Mac's ACTUAL life... cuz he has been TALKING about doing all this shit the past couple seasons but we dont get to see what he's ACTUALLY getting up to. So sorta a Mac's Double Life ep but done much better LOL. I just want some character exploration with Mac cuz they seem to be struggling with what to do with Mac since he came out. And I know part of that also has to do with Rob wanting to have a gay man in the writers room but (so far, as far as I know) not being able to get any lol.
I'd also like to see some shit about whatever is going on with Frank that we found out he has a serious, terminal disease in s11... but ik a lot of ppl have said that before me, and for good reason its like.. wtf is going on there LOL
10. who��s your least favorite character?
shit... good question.... yknow i'll just use this as an opportunity to say i hate the way they wrote fat mac. it just felt like they squandered his potential. the way they executed the joke itself was just reeking of rcg's own body image issues which makes it just uncomfortable/not funny if you dont ALSO have rcg's body issues LOL. like i think if they'd done a slower progression over time where the characters just Look Their Age as they age would be a good subversion and probably not too difficult to maintain LMAO. and if Rob wanted Mac's part in that to be gaining some weight for a season/a couple seasons that could've been subversive in itself and done well. But I think bc they made it a seasonal gimmick it suffered for that. So I'm not really answering the question i Know but KJDFGNKDJ tbh i loooove the cast of characters we've become familiar with I think they're all great
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