#the incredibles plasmabolt

[melonthesprigatito]

My idea on who I think would make the PERFECT villain for The Incredibles 3 (not that they're ever going to make one***, this could also just be a fanfic idea)

***EDITOR'S NOTE: THIS WAS WRITTEN IN NOVEMBER 2023, NEARLY A YEAR BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED INCREDIBLES 3, I WAS A FOOL FOR DOUBTING IT WOULD GET MADE

NaNoWriMo somehow dragged me kicking and screaming back into my The Incredibles hyperfixation that I haven't thought about since 2021. Drafting up a long Tumblr post in my Notes app for a few days totally counts, right? (Probably not but whatever, I am fukcing passionate about The Incredibles lore, I need to ramble)

So, the villains of The Incredibles and Incredibles 2 are both genius inventors with no superpowers who use their technology to fight the heroes. What if, for the third villain, they ditched that idea and had a villain who was a Super?

Who'd be able to fill that role? Would they invent an entirely new character who is a Super? It wouldn't be too farfetched of an idea, they did invent two new Super supervillains in Lego Incredibles, The Anchor Man and Brainfreezer, one with hydrokinesis and the other with.... functionally cryokinesis like Frozone except she controls ice cream. 

But what if... the villain was an already existing Super? That already poses a problem, a majority of the Supers in the present day of The Incredibles are either dead from Syndrome's Omnidroid or an unfortunate cape snag. The only surviving Supers from the pre-Super Ban Glory days are Mr Incredible, Elastigirl and Frozone and possibly Fironic and Plasmabolt (and only because they never showed up in Syndrome's Operation KRONOS database.)

Fironic is pretty ambiguous if he's still alive or not, but Plasmabolt for its practically a 100% chance of survival for a few reasons:

1. Her profile says she keeps her hero and civilian lives strictly separate, so she might have had no desire to go moonlighting as a hero like Mr Incredible did

2. She's a forest park ranger. She probably lives off-grid in a shack in the woods or something. 

3. The way Psycwave, Everseer and Macroburst are killed one after the other, but Plasmabolt isn't counted with them. All four of these Supers were part of a superhero team called The Phantasmics. Mirage probably used their connection to find all of them, maybe Plasmabolt fell out of contact with her old friends.

Plasmabolt herself might have been a good villain candidate, having lost faith in humanity after learning how the National Supers Agency failed to keep track of her old friends, of all the Supers, and didn't notice that Syndrome was picking them all off. 

Buuuuuut she's not the one this post is about. There's another that would probably be an even better villain, mostly because she has a personal tie to one of the main characters.

This is one of the features on the bonus disk of The Incredibles: a full set of character files and audio interviews of most of the Supers (except for Tradewind, Vectress, Blitzerman and Fironic. They didn't get profiles.) 

It's listed in alphabetical order, featuring Apogee, Blazestone, Downburst, Dyna Guy, Elastigirl, Everseer, Frozone, Gamma Jack, Gazerbeam, Hypershock, Macroburst, Meta Man, Mr Incredible, Phylange, Plasmabolt, Psycwave, Stratogale, Splashdown, Stormicide, Thunderhead and Universal Man. 

The one I want to draw attention to is this one. 

(Side note, it’s kinda frustrating that the only way to find images of most of these guys in colour is to look for random comic strips and the freaking Lego game of all things. I’m just gonna link this fan art too because I think it rocks and is probably the best image of her https://www.tumblr.com/pazam/183219465026/no-gadgets-no-gimmicks?source=share)

THIS, is Blazestone, the blorbo- I MEAN, the Super I think would make a great villain in a hypothetical third Incredibles movie. Or a Frozone spinoff movie. Either works. 

I think she'd make a good villain for a number of reasons.

1. SHE'S ALREADY BEEN THE MAIN VILLAIN OF ANOTHER OFFICIAL THE INCREDIBLES STORY. 

Let me highlight something important from her profile. "ARRESTED AND JAILED. RECRUITED BY NSA. WATCH CLOSELY TO ENSURE SHE OPERATES WITHIN NSA GUIDELINES" 

That's right, Blazestone is actually a reformed criminal. This one little detail from her profile is a major plot point in the novel Elastigirl: A Real Stretch.

She was paired with Universal Man as part of her rehabilitation. In the novel, they're constantly arguing, they constantly insult each other. Universal Man is an incredibly strict rule follower and tries to keep her in line. He thinks she'll never make it as a true Super if she doesn't follow the guidelines and acts recklessly ("THESE TWO WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY DON'T KILL EACH OTHER FIRST")

She hates being constantly monitored and forced into teams with other Supers and wishes they'd give her the freedom to do what she wants, as opposed to being constantly badgered into being a better person and following the guidelines

Eventually, Blazestone gets so sick of the National Supers Agency that snaps and decides that the only way she'll be able to do what she wants is to KILL ALL THE OTHER SUPERS SO THERE'S NO ONE TO STOP HER FROM TAKING OVER. 

In fact, her plan involves 

1. Steal a shipment of the ZAP chemical (the novel's McGuffin, a radioactive chemical used as a superpower enhancer that has various effects depending on which Super it's used on. For most of them, it disables their powers entirely, for some it makes their powers malfunction and Apogee is the only Super who's powers are actually enhanced by it.) 

2. Secretly recruiting all the criminals she jailed as her henchmen and breaks them out of jail on the day of the Super Appreciation Day celebrations. These henchmen are disguised as other Supers and blend in with all the other cosplayers entering the Costume Contest. 

3. Attack the Supers Appreciation Day celebration at the pier. Trap EVERY SINGLE SUPER inside a band shell covered by a net that's coated ZAP which basically fucks up all of their powers. She then lifts the band shell off the ground and was heading towards the ocean to drop it in and drown them all.

 (a few pages later)

.... I'm serious, that's what actually happens in the climax. 

Never mind the fact that she's touching the net covered in the chemical that needed to be handled with heavy gloves WITH HER BARE HANDS BECAUSE HER SUPERSUIT HAS SHORT SLEEVES in order to lift the band shell. ...And the fact that she has no super strength so shouldn't have been able to carry the weight of a structure and 20+ Supers.

Blazestone actually mentioned earlier in the novel that ZAP had no effect on her, and while the novel never mentions it, my theory is that Blazestone is the only other Super who's powers are enhanced by ZAP. Apogee was also powered up by ZAP... in small doses but being that close to the netting enhanced her powers too much so she couldn't assist in the climax without incinerating everyone with the power of the sun. Blazestone must have lied about ZAP not having an effect on her to eliminate her as a suspect for the theft of the ZAP. 

ANYWAY, Blazestone went full supervillain and that's the last we heard of her until she showed up dead in Syndrome's Project KRONOS database. Between Supers Appreciation Day and the beginning of the Super Ban, she might have resumed her criminal activities and became part of Municiberg's Rogues Gallery. 

As the Super Ban went into effect she might have been kept in a maximum security facility for a few years until she managed to break out into a world where Supers are in hiding. She might have used her powers to commit smaller robberies to survive, which might have been how Mirage tracked her down..

But wait, she's dead isn't she? So how could she possibly be the main villain of Incredibles 3 if she's dead?

2. SHE'S ONE OF THE FEW SUPERS WHO COULD HAVE PLAUSIBLY SURVIVED THE OMNIDROID BY FAKING HER DEATH.

She's the 6th Super to have been killed by Syndrome, and is probably the Super Syndrome tested the Omnidroid's fireproofing on, hence when it's immune to lava. 

Except.... Blazestone could have been marked as "Terminated" when she really wasn't.

But how, exactly? The model of Omnidroid that killed her was v.X2 (the highest being v.10) so it was a VERY early model. Too early to have all the little issues ironed out. Perhaps there was a flaw that Blazestone exploited that kept her alive. 

There's also Blazestone's powerset.  She has a threat rating of 5.5, which sounds low until you realise that the highest is Gamma Jack with 7.9 Her powers are listed as pyrokinetic discharge, heat control, heat resistance, high agility and flight (by riding on heated air) which is pretty OP by itself but there's one power not listed on the file that Blazestone mentions having.

From the Bonus Disk Audio Interviews: (sped up because she was talking through the entire interview on 2x speed) "Wait what, do you want me to say the whole thing again? I thought I was completely clear, are you- Do you want me to go back again? The whole thing? I don't understand... (back to normal speed because she realised she wasn't in the dimension where people talk really fast, I guess?) "...OH, okay. *laughs* I am so sorry, I know what the problem is! I can't *laughs again* I keep on forgetting which dimension that I'm in! Wait, which... Which dimension am I in?"

From Lego Incredibles: "Wait, which dimension is this? Never mind, I’m sure I’ll find out soon enough.”

That's right, apparently Blazestone has the ability to warp herself to other dimensions. And this isn't an out of the blue thing that probably isn't canon either, Incredibles 2 shows off exactly how that power would function.

(Transcript from Incredibles 2)

Escaping by warping to another dimension is a VEEEERY good method of hiding your own body.

Picture this: Blazestone is contacted by Mirage. She's told a lie about the Omnidroid, it's the government's secret project and how it's went rogue. She gets told they looked for her because she's the only Super who defected from the NSA, they need her specifically. If they approached any other Super they might contact the NSA and expose the secret project. So they need her because she won't tattle. 

Blazestone goes to Nomanisan Island and is told to go to Room A113 to wait for instructions. She gets bored and hates being told what to do so goes to explore. She finds the lava waterfall and flies through, only to find Syndrome on his computer looking over his Operation KRONOS files. She realises that they lured her to die, that she's not the first one they called to destroy the robot, they lied to her and now she's trapped. She goes back to Room A113, and while they're unaware that she found out, she starts asking too many questions. 

The Omnidroid x.V2 is sent after her. She's not fighting to disable it for a sum of money, she's fighting for her life. Blazestone is agile, she flies out of reach of the Omnidroid, and hurls fireballs at it as it has no methods of hitting her back. Until it learns to throw its own projectiles at her. It uproots trees, throws rocks etcetera. It gets an unlucky hit in and knocks her to the ground. Suddenly Blazestone realises that it's getting more accurate, it's predicting where she'll fly next. There's no winning against it. They're near the volcano at this point so Blazestone makes a beeline towards it, if she could just reach the lava.... 

She's inside the lava caves, she flies directly over the lava. She's heat resistant. She baits the Omnidroid into throwing one more boulder and allows herself to get knocked into the lava. She's entirely submerged. Syndrome is watching the fight through hidden cameras, waiting for her to emerge, but she doesn't. Syndrome makes a quip about how the lava must have been too hot for even Blazestone to handle and marks her down as terminated. In reality, Blazestone warped to the other dimension the second she went under, tricking them into thinking her body melted away in the lava. 

As for how Syndrome didn't know about her dimensional warping power, the fact that it's not listed on her National Supers Agency file kinda feels like the NSA didn't believe she had that power. She's a former criminal who probably figured that she she'd defect from being a Superhero at some point. If she ended up in a jail cell, she could teleport out of it. If they knew she could teleport they might have found some way to neutralise that power before sending her to jail. So Blazestone kept it a secret in the even that she'd need to escape from some where. 

So Blazestone lives and freaks out about her near death experience. Except... She draws the wrong conclusion about Syndrome. She doesn't know that the government is actually oblivious to the fact that Syndrome is developing a robot strong enough to fight Mr Incredible using Supers as test subjects. She thinks the government is hunting down Supers and killing them with the Omnidroid. 

She goes cold turkey on crime in case the government finds her again, but after all that, a deep resentment and rage bubbles up inside of her. 

Flashforward to after Incredibles 2, when the Super Ban is lifted and the National Supers Agency is re-established and is recruiting Supers again. The details of Project KRONOS are released to the public. Blazestone's rage boils over. 

She hates that the National Supers Agency is up and running to control Supers again like how they suffocated her with their rules and trapped her in a dysfunctional partnership with Universal Man, she hates that ordinary people tried to wipe out Supers when THEY should be in charge. 

Remember in Incredibles 2 when Evelyn mind controlled Mr Incredible, Elastigirl and Frozone and made them forced them to say something into the camera during the public broadcast before they hijacked the hydrofoil to make them look bad?

Yeah, Blazestone ACTUALLY believes that. 

As far as anyone is aware, Blazestone is dead. She might hide her face to make sure nobody figures out it's her. She could target the DevTech/Wannabe Supers (Voyd, Screech, He-Lectrix, Brick, Krushauer and Reflux) and shake their confidence in the Supers Agency or the public's faith in Supers, after all, the Supers Agency let all the old Supers die, they public turned on you years ago, who's to say they won't turn on you again? Look, there's already politicians who disagree with the Super Ban being lifted and want to put heavy restrictions on Super activity. I think she'd be after Voyd specifically because she's an anxiety ridden easily manipulated mess who is also potentially a threat. After all, Voyd's power is portals, and she can follow Blazestone when she dimensional warps...

She rallies a bunch of other young Supers who felt betrayed by the government banning Supers, perhaps she even manipulates a grieving Plasmabolt who's still mourning her teammates' deaths into acting as a mole in the National Supers Agency. She wants Supers to be on top while all the puny normals get subjugated like they deserve.

Baaasically she becomes Pixar Magneto? ... I'm not 100% certain, I'm not all that familiar with X-Men? I just kinda know who he is from watching one movie years ago. I don't know, I suck at writing allegories, I just have the vague idea in my head and I dunno how to put it to paper properly. If I've said something bad or made a bad comparison, I'm sorry. I'm writing this section at 3am.

3. SHE HAS AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO ONE OF THE MAIN CAST.

If The Incredibles was about Mr Incredible and Incredibles 2 was about Elastigirl, who's the third member of their trio who hasn't got a chance to be a protagonist yet? Let's bring up the profiles again, shall we?

Notice anything?

"ONCE PARTNERS WITH FROZONE. BUT RELATIONSHIP RAN HOT AND COLD."

"FORMER PARTNERS WITH BLAZESTONE (ROMANTICALLY?)"

OH SNAP THAT'S RIGHT, FROZONE AND BLAZESTONE USED TO BE PARTNERS. POSSIBLY ROMANTICALLY.

Blazestone was partnered with Frozone first before the NSA shoved her into the Beta Force with Universal Man. This is purely headcanon, but I like to imagine the Frozone/Blazestone team was known as the Alpha Force because Beta comes after Alpha. The sentence "relationship ran hot and cold" aside from being a bad pun, kinda implies that at some point the fluctuation led to them having a huge falling out and splitting their team apart so the NSA could try again with Universal Man.

I found this on Reddit's Tumblr sub and honestly, my thoughts exactly.

Imagine the DRAMA of Frozone finding out that his former "Enemies to lovers to enemies" partner who tried to drown him on Supers Appreciation Day that one time who he thought was dead is suddenly alive again and is currently leading a gang of Supers to attacking people. There could be a deep dive into what their partnership was like, how he reacted to her fall from grace and all the mixed feelings of seeing her alive again in the present day.

Maybe this could finally be the opportunity to show Honey on screen. I mean, she HAS a design now and an entire deleted scene that they cut out because it caused pacing issues

Imagine Frozone lying battered and bruised on the ground from Blazestone fighting him, and Honey runs to his defence. Blazestone mocks her like "What could you possibly do to me? You're powerless!" and then Honey takes her completely by surprise by pulling out a metal baseball bat or some other mundane household weapon and beats the ever loving shit out of her.

Another idea I had that doesn't really fit into any section is the idea of bringing the Deavor siblings back. Winston and Evelyn having a fractured relationship after the events of Incredibles 2. Winston visiting her in jail trying to understand why she'd risk their father's legacy and endangering DevTech by connecting it with the attempted mass murder with a boat. Evelyn snapping back that he never noticed how she was feeling as they grieved for their parent's deaths because he was too focused on thinking that they died because there was no Supers around anymore to save them.

Blazestone kidnapping both of them and forcing Evelyn, the one who hates Supers with her entire being to remake the Screenslaver technology by threatening to burn Winston to death if she doesnt comply. Why does Blazestone need the hypnosis tech? Because she's aware that some of the Supers she recruited might not be 100% loyal and wants to control their minds to keep them in line if she has to. Because she doesn't care at all about any of the other Supers, she just wants to use them for her own gain so that SHE can control the city. Plasmabolt is definitely going to be the one to betray Blazestone in the end. She realises that Everseer, Macroburst and Psycwave wouldn't have wanted her to harm innocent people to avenge their deaths, so she'd fight alongside The Incredibles family, the Wannabe Supers, and Frozone.

Aaaand that's all I have to say, it somehow took me three hours to move all this text from Google Docs to Tumblr and find accompanying images.

Hope you liked my probably badly written sequel idea

[magicbunnystar]

have some more food for y'all incredible goobers

[ladyyulissaling]

Plasmabolt X Gazerbeam

Fue un ship que se me ocurrió derrepente sí es raro, pero me gusta

[ughigottaheadache]

About Fironic;

Them making a whole model for Gazerbeam for the sequel I can understand, he’s easily recognisable due to his very important death in the first movie, but why did they make an entire model for Fironic?

Mind you he’s not even in the NSA files, his only mention for years has just been a one off comment made by a civilian.

Were the writers planning on doing something else that involved him? He’s one of three Super’s who’s fate is unconfirmed, among Plasmabolt who we get no info on besides the files, and Splashdown who is very intentionally written down as MIA, most likely meaning the NSA simply didn’t find his body, and the NSA are thorough (plus part of his whole thing is thriving in water). Yet those two don’t have updated models/no models for animation.

Why Fironic?? Granted his design is very simple but still, why even bother??

I for one would be very interested to hear his story, if he’s alive, of how he somehow managed to avoid or go under the radar of Syndrome’s people. Same goes for Plasmabolt and Splashdown, if he ever resurfaces.

What would their reactions be? To find out people that you called friend and colleagues, that you had to stay away from for safety, that you thought were alive and well under the protection of the NSA, and almost all of them are dead save for very few, an entire generation of Super’s with stories and skills they can’t pass down.

[quirkwizard]

National Supers Agency - Supers audio files (The Incredibles DVD disc 2). Based on this video do you think some of these powers could translate well as quirks. Downburst for one seems like a prototype/downgrade of Overhaul so I think it'd work well as a minor quirk

For the sake of this, I'm sticking with the characters in the video and none from the actual movies, so no Frozone. Right off the bat, I'm telling you that Gamma Jack, Dynaguy, Downburst, Metaman, and Universal Man all can't work. Their abilites are either too varied or too powerful. You compare some of their powers to "Overhaul", but reshaping stuff doesn't even come close to total control over matter. Then we eliminate powers that are too similar. We've got "Hellflame" for Blastone, "Whirlwind" for Macroburst, "Vibrate" for Hypershock, and "Voice" for the The Phylange. From there, it's just matter of focusing on the main gimmicks of the other characters. Everseer: Eyeglass Gazerbeam: Shiner Plasmabolt: Ambiance Psycwave: Mindsweeper Splashdown: Waterlogged Stormicide: Iron Lung Stratogale: Exertion Thunderhead: Hydrometer

[kittyball23]

The Incredibles NSA Files

Repost screenshots of the NSA Files that I also shared on my Deviantart page :)

[fistfuloflightning]

You know that list of terminated Supers?

Yeah, that one.

The list starts off with a bang, and with the complete erasure of the Phantasmics in one go. Well, mostly complete.

The order of deaths is as follow:

Nowhere on the visible listing of terminated Supers is there Plasmabolt. The other three are very much dead, but she is conspicuously absent. There is a distinct possibility Plasmabolt is still alive.

As for the particular order of the Phantasmics’ deaths, they all fought the same droid 1.0., Macroburst the one to destroy it. Nowhere does it specify that Syndrome only snagged Supers one by one. Depending on how young he was when he began his killing spree, he could have wanted to see how it tested against a group of Supers. Supers who were weaker and with less than ideal powers. Psycwave and Everseer have mental powers, useless against a machine. Their threat rating is 1.6 and 3.2 respectively. Macroburst is squeaking by on a 5.9. Still not super powerful but enough to be a threat. Plasmabolt’s threat rating is unknown as she does not appear to be in Kronos’ databank.

My take on how it went down is they got caught in an ambush where both Everseer and Psycwave were killed first, their mental powers/attacks doing nothing on a man-made machine.

There were four in the Phantasmics. As Plasmabolt’s powers were flight and plasma control, I would assume she’d be more of a threat to the droid. But Macroburst is the one to take it out, not her. So that could indicate she wasn’t even with them at the time. It wouldn’t be far fetched to assume she had other duties that separated her from their group. If that was the case, the only way she might have heard about her teammates’ deaths would have been from a traumatized Macroburst before he disappeared himself, leaving her the last surviving member of the Phantasmics.

As for Macroburst… Possibly suffering from survivor guilt and/or suicidal tendencies, he might have gone searching for the source of that droid/been lured back for revenge for his dead comrades and been drawn into last bout with a new droid—one that ended in the Super’s death.

An entire group of Supers, felled in one blow. All but one.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[plummyplums]

I feel so bad for Plasmabolt. She's the only surviving member of the Phantasmics (presumably, since we didn't get confirmation of her death); Syndrome killed Everseer, Psycwave, Macroburst, even former member Gazerbeam. Those were her teammates, her friends, practically family. They lived together and worked together, and definitely knew each others' secret identities. Macroburst looked so young and started as Everseer's sidekick, was she a sisterly/motherly figure to them? Was she a calming presence for the paranoid Psycwave? Did she try to get through to pessimistic Everseer, urging him to try no matter what his visions said? Did she joke around with Gazerbeam, Simon, even though people said he had no sense of humor?

Did she know they all died? Did they have funerals, and if so, could she attend them? Did she only learn after Syndrome was defeated and the records were released, bursting into tears at the fate of her friends, but also so proud of Macro, the delicate team baby, for taking out the Omnidroid mark 1? Was there anyone left to comfort her?

I wanna write the Phantasmics and other dead supers so bad

[lesbianmirage]

plasmabolt never having been killed by an Omnidroid or even targeted by syndrome, living her life in the woods with no contact with the world

[incredifan34]

Start of a next generation

Start of my next gen Incredibles au.

Name: Issac Judas Lebeau.

Super name: Gammabolt (his original name being Plasma Jack).

Age: 17

Appearance: White, tall, golden blonde hair that is always seen in undercut style, green eyes. Costume made to look like a combination of his parents’ costumes.

Personality: He has meglomaniacal impulses like his father but these are rare. He is also obsessed with the outdoors, violent at times but this is very rare, selectively charming, cunning, unpredictable, spontaneous, impulsive, go-getter, inventive, and ambitious.

Threat rating: 7.8

Powers: 

Radiation burst generation at short and long range 

Disintegration and burns of solid materials with radiation bursts 

Flight 

Electromagnetic energy production 

Heightened senses 

Can emit plasma waves by capturing electromagnetic energy in his hair that sticks out of his mask and transferring it to his hands

Weakness: 

Sharp intensity falloff

Control of his plasma waves is essential

Parentage: Nina Foster(Plasmabolt) and Jack Lebeau(Gamma Jack) got their names from cometcrystal.

Backstory: Issac was born in 1960, just two years before the ban would start(I headcanon that the ban started in 1962 and ended in 1977). Nina and Jack were in an on and off relationship due to his cold, egotistical nature. Only four supers knew about this relationship and they were Psycwave, Everseer, Gazerbeam and Universal Man. She loved him and he loved her, but to the public and the other supers, she hated him and he hated her. Jack loved her and did actually cared for her, but he didn’t like commitment. But when Jack found that Nina was going to have a kid, he wanted to leave but for some unknown reason he knew he had to stay. So he told her that he was going to adjust his behavior and seek counseling for three months so he can be the perfect father to their son. Five months later Issac was born, after that Jack and Nina moved to Boston. But when he was very little, though, he discovered his powers. The first people he showed was his mother and father, who quickly told him to never reveal or use his power for and to anyone else, because he could hurt them if he did. That quickly got him quiet, and he rarely used his powers at all after that and completely forgot about them. However at age 14 he rediscovered his powers when saving a girl from a thief. So this led him to become a vigilante and named himself Plasma Jack and started his own group called The Renegades which was a group of super powered vigilantes who trained in secret and would appear when there were crimes. He did this for 2 years until Jack disappeared (or was killed) this left Issac wondering why his dad just up and left. After the ban was lifted he became Gammabolt and joined the Crusaders, a team of next generation supers. In the coming months they’ll investigate into the mysterious disappearances of their parents and find more than they bargained for...

[pazam]

Plasmabolt buzzes into action!

[incredidiblebles]

A drawing of The Phantasmics because they are awesome.

[ladyyulissaling]

"La vida sin ti" parte de mi AU, es el futuro definitivo de Plasmabolt y Gazerbeam

[ink-beneath-her-fingernails]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Incredibles (Pixar Movies) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Lucius "Frozone" Best & Rick Dicker, Lucius "Frozone" Best & Bob "Mr. Incredible" Parr, Lucius "Frozone" Best & Helen "Elastigirl" Parr, Honey Best & Lucius "Frozone" Best, Lucius "Frozone" Best & Violet Parr Characters: Lucius "Frozone" Best, Rick Dicker, Bob "Mr. Incredible" Parr, Helen "Elastigirl" Parr, Honey Best, Stratogale (Incredibles), Apogee (Incredibles), Tradewind (Incredibles), Hypershock (Incredibles), Simon J. "Gazerbeam" Paladino, Macroburst (Incredibles), Plasmabolt (Incredibles), Phylange (Incredibles) Additional Tags: World War II, Propaganda, Angst, Origin Story, kind of, Minor Lucius "Frozone" Best/Honey Best, Government Experimentation, Human Experimentation, Pre-Canon, Trust Issues, Loss of Trust, Team Bonding, Everyone Has Issues, Period-Typical Racism, Additional Warnings In Author's Note, once again we're back at it with:, y'all are really sleeping on the timeline implications of these movies being set in the 60s, oh trust me all of the old guard is gonna be there, and once again Issues™, rick dicker is probably the sole reason for this man's trust issues, but dicker is trying so hard i swear, he just wants to keep them all safe and alive, they're his kids okay he's adopted them, i mean he ain't very good at it and he lowkey ruined all their lives, but his heart was in the right place??, vaguely implied possible Lucius/Bob/Helen and/or Lucius/Helen/Bob/Honey? maybe so, look all i'm sayin is that helen and bob are actual disasters, and if you think they're raising three superpowered children on their own, when they can barely function as adults, you're wrong, Period-Typical Sexism Series: Part 2 of bury your heroes Summary:

All of the others had said yes. All of the others had obeyed, agreed, like good soldiers would.

All of the others weren’t quite themselves anymore.

(Or: How Supers came to be, and learning to live with the consequences, as told through the eyes of Lucius Best.)

[municiberg]

Supers NOT confirmed killed by Syndrome:

-The Incredibles (obviously) -Frozone -Plasmabolt -Fironic  -Wannabe supers -Supers from other countries than America