#the hex finale spoilers

[kairos99]

I've seen a few posts talking about how it doesn't make sense for romance to be added into the game because the characters are in the middle of an armed conflict and that they don't have time for that kind of thing, or that they're too traumatized to fall in love. I'd like to explain why I disagree with this position. Let me clarify though that this isn't me saying everyone should romance one of the Hex members. If that's not your thing then by all means, don't romance anyone, you're completely within your right not to. What I'm disagreeing with is that it doesn't make sense for romance to exist in this game and setting whatsoever.

The reason I disagree is that, put simply, humans aren't machines. We're not a set of directives that disregard anything that doesn't align with them. We're animals that have a lot going on at any given moment. We're driven by several purposes, some of which clash with each other. This creates tension, which is something storytellers have exploited in the name of creating stories about the human condition for millenia. Without it, stories are empty, sterile.

Here's an example:

You're fighting two factions that want to wipe out an entire city in order to save innocent lives. You've been doing it in a loop for a very long time, but that doesn't matter because saving civilians comes first. Eventually a powerful new ally from the future appears and helps you and your team change your fates and succeed in holding back both factions from overtaking the city. You're pleased and hope to continue working with this new person to keep on making sure no more civilians are killed.

Does this story sound compelling to you? Maybe a little bit, but it's missing something, don't you think? A little bit more flavor, a little bit of a spark.

Let's try that again:

You've been at war for as long as you can remember. You're tired, stuck on a loop that has no ending in sight, but you have to keep going for the sake of your companions and doing what's right. Enter a new person, a new variable in a sea of sameness. They're not just from the future, they have extraordinary powers that allow them to do extraordinary things, and they seem to be on your side. And they prove it by saving you and your companions from a terrible demise. You start to believe things might turn for the better, you allow yourself to hope for a better future. You wake up from your combat-induced slumber and you feel your attention drifting from the misery that blanketed your existence to things you'd neglected in the name of the common good, including your need for connection and belonging. Including your companions, who still struggle to see themselves as a team. Including your new teammate, who's interesting and merciful and just as starving for connection as you are. You're awake now, and you're going act like it.

Much better, don't you think? Does this story sound more unbelievable because the character has other needs beyond their main objective of saving their city? On the contrary, I think it gets closer to the human experience than the previous story. Your character, a random Hex member, gets interested in the new person, the Drifter, after being saved by them and the situation in the city gets under control, and thus reaches out to them and develops a relationship with them. And they do it because they finally have the space of mind to do it. And not just the Drifter, they also learn to nurture the bonds they have with the other Hex members, as is seen in the text messages when you rank up the syndicate.

What I'm trying to say is, it makes sense for the Hex members to get close to the Drifter, storywise. Hell, "love triumphs over indifference" is a major plot point! That's why it doesn't make sense to me when someone says the Hex doesn't have time for romance. It's like saying the Hex doesn't have time for friendship, or any relationship for that matter, and that goes against what the game's trying to tell you.

As for the characters being too traumatized to fall in love? I'm nowhere near qualified to be speaking about trauma, but what little I know is that traumatized people don't want to be defined by their experiences. They fight day and night to live fulfilling lives, and saying they can't fall in love because they're traumatized sounds downright disrespectful to me. Maybe trauma has permanently changed the way some of them relate to others, but this doesn't mean no traumatized person can ever fall in love as a rule. Everyone's experience is different, and we shouldn't generalize what a group of people are going to be like anyway.

This applies to other mental health conditions as well. Depressed people fall in love. Anxious people fall in love. People that worry about making ends meet fall in love. People that are burnt out fall in love. People at any point in their lives fall in love. There's always something else going on, whether that's something minor like a pending homework assignment or something major like a neverending war, but people still have time to feel all kinds of feelings in the meantime, including romantic love!

That's my take on things. Thanks for reading this far! If you disagree with what I'm saying here, feel free to leave a comment. It's healthy to consider other points of view. :)

[penumbralbeast]

I am so fucking normal about them, your honor.

Spoilers for Hex Finale btw. Watch at yer own risk.

[necirusalka]

hex finale spoilers under cut

eleanettie lovers we won. we fucking won.

[runningwolf62]

So, like, The Hex Finale is fantastic and made me extremely emotional but I was also about to lose it at the end because I was vividly reminded of this picture I saw when Draw the Squad Memes were popular and I am inflicting this on others

It was this picture specifically, it was from a post in like, 2015, there was no source for it, so if anyone knows that, that'd also be great.

[warframestuff]

[replicafatale]

warframe 1999 hex finale spoilers!

brightened up this pic of eleanor and lettie in the hex finale & it looks like lettie's hand is on eleanor's thigh & eleanor's hand is around lettie's arm... they are everythinggg

[kulvefaggoth]

ok so. am i stupid or did the secret hole they added to the second Höllvania Mall relay actually get removed once the real zone dropped? Like i remember trying to get in there but it not being there anymore

bc uuuuuuh

IT'S BACK

AND THERE'S SOMETHING ON THAT TV?????????

Like i only noticed this after getting rank 5 with The Hex but i had a friend test it out and it was also there... but they were rank 3 and had done the finale.

If anyone that either has a lower rank/hasn't done the finale could test it out for me i would greatly appreciate it e.e

[frameconfessions]

I hope they don't make The Drifter and by proxy The Hex irrelevant by just leaving them in 1999 forever like how Excalibur Umbra stopped being story relevant.

[beastking-golion]

Saw a fic about vastaya Viktor and if you ask me he’s definitely a bird (or salamander if you wanna super angstify him- cough cough Rio cough).

[invasivefungus46]

ok but why in the ✌️ cutscene after the hex finale Loid has nose ring yet when I went to check on him after the quest he didn't have one? Drifter accidentally hopped on the wrong timeline? Somehow? Devs forgot to add it outside of the cutscene? Or he just doesn't wear it in the sanctum??

And why when Wally was mimicking Loid during the interrogation scene he included the nose ring? At first I thought it was done to maybe differentiate mimic from original Loid (as if the eyes weren't enough) but now idk

[alteredsilicone]

Hex Finale Spoilers

Viri you look like Albrecht's cursed granddaughter

Well, I made her like that (pale blueish skin and white eye glow) but still next to normal people she looks cursed LMFAO

THIS WAS SO GOOD I LOVE LITTLE FANSERVICEY STUFF LIKE THIS OK I LOVED THE FINALE BUT I WANNA WAIT BEFORE I POST PROPER POSTS WITH SPOILERS ALL OUT OK

[roninreverie]

Am I the only one who is still just a little mad at Jayce's Timing?

Granted, it's only been like 1 hour since I finished Arcane, but lower your pitchforks and just hear me out for a second...

The bad future he went to (in SEVERAL different timelines apparently) looked like a result of his shooting Viktor in the first place.

Viktor loses his last shreds of humanity, teams up with Noxus to get to the Hexcore, and then once combining with it, destroys the entire world.

Now, even if giving Jayce the hammer with the instructions to shoot him is what Wizard-Viktor sent him back in time to do...

If Jayce would have shown Viktor the future THEN instead of shooting him, then I wonder if the war could have been avoided entirely and the commune could have dissolved in a different way?

I mean, probably not. Time is a prisoner to fate and a weird soup, and so forth... I guess it would have still inevitably ended up that way anyway somehow, someway, but... it does make for interesting thoughts and what ifs. 🤔

[agathasblackheart]

Just watched The Owl House finale and oh my god. That was so fucking good. I had no clue where anything was going the entire time and just lost my mind over it. When Luz died, I literally stopped breathing and just sat there staring at the tv with wide eyes and I literally felt my blood run cold. I’m not even joking. Like suddenly there was this cold sinking feeling in my chest but then when Luz came back as Titan!Luz I lost it like oh my god!!! That was fucking beautiful. I never could’ve imagined something like that happening but she was so badass. And then the time skip at the end, seeing all of them so happy and grown up was just beautiful. Amity’s hair had me absolutely feral and finally seeing Harpy Lilith was beautiful and a little preteen King with his powers was amazing. Also the matching tattoos for the hex squad!!! That was absolutely adorable, but I am beyond impressed and so happy with that final episode. I’m going to miss it so fucking much. That show was my comfort show and honestly my favorite thing in the entire world. This show has meant so much to me and I don’t know if another show will ever matter as much as this one did. While I wish season 3 would’ve been longer, I’m just grateful the story was able to be finished in such a fantastic and beautiful way. I am beyond grateful to Dana Terrace for this amazing show that she created.

[necirusalka]

hex finale spoilers under the cut

i won't lie... the fact that neci disappeared into thin air in the hex quest and doesn't even show up for the finale pisses me off... feels like they spent a lot of time showing her off pre-update only for her to get just a handful of speaking lines and a tremendously underwhelming "boss" "fight" before getting shelved, potentially never to be seen again

at this rate i don't even know if i would WANT them to bring her back because if they just turn her into a mouthpiece for a male antagonist they like more, a la vala & parvos... i'm going to be more pissed

i'm pretty tired of the trend of DE introducing female antagonists just to immediately push them out of the spotlight in favor of more men! it happened with vala in the sisters of parvos update, it happened with fucking PRAGHASA getting upstaged by ballas and erra the new war to the point where she didn't even get ANY SPEAKING LINES in-game, and now neci has been completely replaced by viktor and for what fucking reason!! it happens with an alarming number of the women in general in this game!! let's not forget about jade!!

i don't even know what the point in the drifter refusing to kill neci because "it's not really her, it's the mitw" was if they were never going to follow through with that to begin with. was really hoping to see her freed from mitw's influence in the finale but she's not even MENTIONED save for the email you get at the end that's just like "looks like neci is gone! anyway," and then you start getting transmissions from viktor who acts like neci never existed but has inexplicably adopted her habit of calling the hex "slugs." like okay can you make the fact that you're replacing her a little less blatant

so like... what... a high-ranking member of the scaldra vanishes into thin air without a trace, along with a captive of extreme interest that neci and viktor are implied to have known to be a TIME TRAVELER, and nobody questions it? maybe scaldra at large doesn't give a shit but viktor doesn't find it suspicious at all? doesn't try pinning neci's "death" and the escape of one of their captives on the hex somehow, even though his whole thing is posing himself as a righteous patriot and the hex as terrorists?

WHERE is the original neci? is mitw just dragging her body around now even though it's capable of duplicating others' appearances at will and has no apparent need for a physical vessel? has it fully consumed her? is she still alive at all? is she going to be dumped in the future somewhere, or is "she" going to be following albrecht wherever HE went, or is she just fucking gone? we don't know and may not get closure about this until YEARS from now, if ever because DE could not be fucked to follow up on a plot thread they literally JUST put down IN THE INTRODUCTORY HEX QUEST, and their track record with giving a fuck about their female characters is so ABYSMALLY bad that frankly i am already anticipating she will never be meaningfully brought up again

days before the update i found this thing i made years ago on my hard drive

i don't even remember the particular quest or incident that led to me making this but it still holds true which is like... lol. lmao even

[goldandlights]

Viktor becoming fissure jesus was not on my bingo card but it HITS

Go you freaky little gremlin (I'm glad you're not dead (yet))

[warframestuff]

We're not gonna make it man. I can't even compile in time- -Then we go down swinging! Not now. Not now. Amir, slow it down. I don't... have... time. Hold out your hand.