#the Winchester family

[embraceyourdestiny]

Cupid: John and Mary Winchester, huuuuge deal. They couldn’t stand each other at first but after us, perfect couple.

I fucking knew it.

Well, no, I didn’t know that the angels organized the union of Mary and John Winchester, but I knew that Mary and John weren’t a good couple. I knew that even if they still were alive and. together, they wouldn’t have been happy. I don’t know why, but I could feel it. Something about how Mary, or anyone, really, didn’t seem all that bothered by John being dead in the “good” timeline where she lives and Sam and Dean don’t get along. How life was good even if he wasn’t there. (How Sam and Dean don’t need John at all.) How Mary never mentioned John in any of her “returns/visits”. How they just seemed like a couple that would argue and not get along, with divorced energy even if they both lived.

It’s so demented and a complete violation that the Higher Powers forced two humans together against their will for their plan.

The Winchesters never had any free will. Heaven intended it. They were nearly patchworked together by circumstance. I don’t think even Sam and Dean feel attached to John the way they do Mary. He was merely an outsider used as a piece in a game. He doesn’t belong with the Winchesters. All he gave was his name.

[jamjjamm]

Dean Winchester in early seasons of supernatural

[iamthejam]

the winchester brothers as texts

[moonys-chocolate28]

I took a look at the #wincest tag and literally what the fuck...???

Idk how ANYONE dares say its real? Like bro wtf?

Why are you admitting to liking incest?

Why are you proud to ship two brothers together?

Especially after that one episode where they called dean/sam shippers out when they found out about the spn books

I saw a comment say they just choose to ignore the destiel moments after s3 and the 'wincest chemistry' is still there.

Im literally sick to my stomach i didnt know people were fr about this shit

I filtered the tag and will spend the rest of my life ignoring it for my own mental health

[ebenelephant]

john winchester's such a fascinating character and i don't think fandom does him enough justice tbh. like, you love your sons more than anything; all their love for you is twisted up in hate and fear and devotion. you sacrifice everything to keep them safe; it's actually for your dead wife more than them. you brag about your youngest's achievements every chance you get; you tell him to never come back. your boys think of you as drill sergeant first, perhaps more than father; fifty percent of your screen time is spent crying for how much you love them. you hate when they correct you, it makes you so damn mad; you acknowledge that they're right. you would do anything to keep them safe; you fuck them up irrevocably, and they never get a chance at normalcy. you teach them to be soldiers; they love you like dogs, all blind loyalty and teeth.

[420technoblazeit]

say what you will about the winchesters but i did kind of like that they explored john's military trauma and how that ended up affecting his choices later in life. i feel like the fandom has a tendency to see him as this horrible irredeemable monster but like. i'd argue that john's motivations for raising sam and dean in the way that he did are pretty clear cut actually. he was a traumatized war veteran who watched his wife get murdered by a demon i feel like that would completely destroy anyone's worldview and send them into a spiral

deciding that the best course of action is to then take your baby and five year old son and raise them as monster hunters and completely deprive them of a normal childhood is definitely a more questionable decision but i also do think that john thought that it was necessary to keep them safe. and that includes drilling into dean the idea that he was entirely responsible for sam's safety. john thought that he had to prepare them for when azazel came for them. and he knew that he couldn't always be there to protect sam so he made dean shoulder the responsibility too. which was fucked up but you can also see why he did what he did

i feel like the tragedy isnt just in the fact that sam and dean were robbed of their childhood but also in the idea that john thought he was doing what he did out of necessity. and in the end it didnt even change all that much because they were doomed from the beginning anyway

[borgialucrezia]

something about how he only says i love you to his blood family just feels so right

[j-2-soulmates]

Winchester Family 🤣🥰🫶🏻🎀

[bajablastlover1]

raw, next question

[livingmybestfictionallife]

Y’all, I can’t with this photo

[embraceyourdestiny]

“Dean is abusive to Sam” is only so ridiculous to me because, in my opinion, it’s less about the content of that thought and more the idea that having any cut-and-dry, definitive interpretation of the Winchester brothers and their situation is ridiculous to me, because this is “The Nuance and Context and Complicated Issues and Situations Show” and it feels counterintuitive, like bad faith analysis, and very reductive to sum up either of these boys in a single, damming sentence that’s ignoring the text as a whole.

Dean and Sam aren’t angels. But they’re also not monsters either. That’s the point. I feel very strongly that, at least up until season 4-5, (because I am currently watching this show for the first time, so I don’t have all the knowledge, and truly a single scene can recontextualize everything very quickly, and that is happening pretty much every episode), Sam would not say that Dean abused him. But, at the same time, that’s a half truth and a half lie, because you can be blinded by faith and love and loyalty to things really going on. Dean at a certain point also would’ve never said John abused them either, and we all know that’s not reality. It’s all messy and complicated, is the point. Just as messy and complicated as real families are.

There’s also a difference between what the creators / narration is trying to tell us/get us to understand, what the characters are telling us, and what the audience can gleam from the text. I don’t believe the point the show runners are trying to make is that Dean is abusive to Sam. I really don’t. Yes, you can certainly extract that from the text, and the things they do to each other and what happens between then is fucked up and if any of that is happening to you in real life you should get out and get help, but this is also all relative when this is a fictional show and they are fighting literal monsters. Like, Sam has been tortured multiple times. I don’t think in the face of that he would call Dean one of his main abusers. But we are normal people with normal lives, so, yeah, it’s bad in that context. In their world, however, I think it’s fair to move the goalpost of severity a liiiitle bit considering. You know. They go to hell and fight the devil. Little different to typical family life.

It’s also not that serious, and I know that someone posting about their interpretations of a fictional situation between fictional characters on tv show does not automatically indicate their feelings on something so horrible and serious like abuse in real life, unless they state so, but that’s a different conversation.

Anyway. Nuance, babey!

[jamjjamm]

early supernatural aesthetic

[iamthejam]

spn as tweets pt 1!!

[lovealwayssay]

Do you think John would have sold his soul for Sam in 2.01 if Sam had been the one dying instead of Dean? Do you think John, knowing everything he knows about the situation with Azazel, who told Dean he’d have to kill Sam if he couldn’t save him, would have sacrificed his life for his youngest son the way he did for Dean? Because I don’t. I think John would have let Sam die.

[novastaree]

Adam not being Mary's child is really important to how he was treated as a son and as a brother.

this is probably the most obvious thing ever but to me it does make sense why John never tried to introduce Adam into hunting and thats because Adam wasn't Marys kid. If Adam was Marys kid John DEFINITELY would have forced Adam into the hunting life with his brothers because the boys were made to hunt so they could track down and kill the thing that killed Mary, to get revenge so It wouldn't make sense to have someone not related to Mary join them on that. Also hunting is in the boy's blood not because of John but because of Mary so Adam didn't really have the family relation to hunting like Sam and Dean. Also since Adam was born not to Mary i imagine John wasn't too happy with himself especially since he never really let Mary rest, and that probably why he only visited him a handful of times and kept his family separate because I can't imagine Sam and Dean having a good reaction to their father basically moving on from their mother but shaping their whole lives around her death

I think that's why the brothers had their own extreme reactions to finding out they had a brother. Dean not excepting it till he had hard proof, and when he did wanted to help the kid and then probably stay away from him and then Sam who tried to have him become a hunter literally immediately, as he saw their situations similar. I think they both wanted Adam to feel what they felt growing up

[samwinchestermydude]

twitter is a scary place with bad spn takes. (Tumblr too sometimes but I feel like twiter infighting in the fandom is more toxic.) Someone once posted as a joke “John Winchester good. John Winchester bad. Who cares. John Winchester sexy.” And they got crucified. Ppl were genuinely like omg your romanticizing abuse and don’t you know he’s abusive. It was pretty fucking funny but also stupid to see so many ppl get mad over a shitpost. Anyways John Winchester sexy <3