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David Oakes as GONFALONIERE JUAN BORGIA THE BORGIAS — Season 1 (2011)
#the way his cheerfulness in s1 is sooo bittersweet considering his fate#he's hiding so much pain and insecurity behind a facade of bravado and vanity#and david ensures that he conveys every emotion clearly through his mannerisms and attitude#he's such a bitch at times but That moment when he rides out against the french and told lucrezia to go on because he refused to surrender?#even knowing that his father placed illusionary hopes in the outnumbered army and realizes that he has no chance..#man it just gets me that to him; his death is less terrifying than losing his family and their love and trust#and the prospect of him dying would devastate his sister </3 plus he has the most beautiful baby cow eyes i've ever seen on tv#and his gaze is filled with sooo much tragic aura#juan borgia#the borgias#tysm for the tag 🩵#reblogs
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THE BORGIAS — 1.01 (The Poisoned Chalice) ★ 2.09 (World of Wonders)
#these are too good omg#fratricide of all time !!!#“we're borgias. we never forgive.” isn't just a bitter retort since juan had previously forgiven cesare for his betrayals seconds ago#but also very decidedly excluded him from the family knowing damn well he struggled with being the black sheep of the family#cesare spent a huge chunk of s3 begging his father for forgiveness and give him command of the papal army#and guilt ridden rodrigo hallucinates little juan as a reminder that he failed him and caused cesare to murder him#but by the end of the show (aside from making it clear that he had always trusted cesare and wanted him to follow in his footsteps)#he became a frail sorrowful old man who felt he had no choice but to forgive him for murdering his son + even placed him in command of army#essentially he failed juan both in life and in death and juan's death had no lasting consequences for cesare#insane stuff#cesare borgia#juan borgia#micheletto corella#the borgias#tysm for the tag 🩵#reblogs
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well YESSS....
"Despite the character’s aggressive attitude, Juan knew he couldn’t quite measure up. His cockiness masked a tortured soul who simply wanted his father’s love—as well as power and respect from the rest of the world [...] I felt that more could have been done with Juan, since he was a wildcard that added a unique dynamic to the family—one that served as a counterpoint to Lucrezia getting married and taking a lover several time."
ummm hello ??? yk as much as cesare is aware of his own superiority, flexing that he has his father's ear, etc. watching him tweak out, pulling all sorts of deceits, lies, and manipulations, and risking their honor/damaging their reputation (despite presenting himself as their protector) to frame and humiliate juan was sooooo amusing to watch #ToMe. he saw juan not just as a rival but also as an obstacle to getting what he wanted/becoming who he was meant to be. cesare pretty much spent the entire two seasons brooding and whining over him, while juan, despite knowing cesare doesn't love him and is indirectly plotting against his life, remains oblivious to just how deadly cesare's hatred for him truly is. (the shock and heartbreak on juan's face when cesare stabbed him)
that being said, i think juan's character stands out as an exceptional case in the show because his very presence stopped cesare from seeming like Theee Perfect Conventionally Attractive Lead for a while !! he didn't just challenge cesare but he threatened a huge chunk of the fandom as well as they projected onto cesare's pov. many fans tended to dehumanize juan without giving his character/motivations a fair analysis simply because they felt threatened by him in the same way cesare was. they created a version of juan in their minds where he is hatefully jealous of cesare and wishes for lucrezia's unhappiness when in fact though all juan does is try to fulfill the crushing expectations his father has of him all while putting on a sardonic façade to hide his inferiority complex. (that façade serves as a defensive mechanism for being shunned by the siblings he loves most and wants to protect, even through extreme and dark means, and be respected by the most.)
alfonso on the other hand is way too unlikeable. he's too naïve, too weak and lacks a backbone. cesare never took him seriously or felt threatened by his existence because by season 3 after juan's death, cesare sits securely in his place as the family’s “only” son and no longer cares about lucrezia loving alfonso because alfonso could never be half the man cesare is. in fact all the men in lucrezia's life feel one-dimensional and uninteresting and serve only to elevate cesare as the 'pinnacle of masculinity and power'. this is where juan lies as an exception and it's why s3 lacked that same sense of challenge. (the writers tried to cover this lack of tension by making cesare and lucrezia's affair the center of the season which was a great idea imho)
david oakes did a tremendous job with juan. he didn't just go beyond the original intent for the character (even though juan's fate didn't change), but he also brought something new to the table. his emotional journey is painful, but it's also deeply human. despite his bleak and untimely fate and the actor's frustration with how it was written. by the end of his journey, juan's character development (returning from spain matured, shaped by his experiences, and becoming more secure about his heritage and bastardy after having a child) was completely thrown out the window. his pivotal relationships with his mother and sister were tattered beyond hope just to make sure cesare's actions would somehow be “justified” to the audience. his characterization is unfairly nerfed in the final 10 minutes of his life as he was grotesquely villainized in the most brutal way possible to paint cesare's immorality as a form of “liberation” from the ill and evil juan and ensure that cesare could maintain the audience's sympathy and that neither the audience nor juan’s family is allowed to mourn or miss him (except their father). and i agree with david oakes because it feels deeply frustrating. i wish neil jordan had enough confidence in cesare's characterization so that he wouldn't feel the need to diminish any vital character in favor of him. like it would've been great if he had tested the audience's love for cesare without nerfing juan because imo it would've made the fratricide even more intense and tragic.
#do i even need to say how micheletto was woobified for someone who was introduced as a baby killer and a rapist jskekwkw#all because his character was loved more than juan's (fandom-wise) since he never served as a rival to him and was beneath cesare#instead juan was vilified and his storyline (desire of belonging) was snatched away from him and gave it to micheletto instead#but that's a story for another day#the borgias#juan borgia#david oakes#zaynab 💌#messages
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"For the good of those who see in us, the defense of our beloved people, whom we love above all else and whose love we reciprocate, requires us to use our children as instruments and bargaining tools to obtain the necessary ends." — Rodrigo Borgia (Lucrezia Giovane, directed by Luciano Ercoli)
#these dynamics are always food imo#also i need to shoot rodrigo for yelling at lucrezia “satisfying her sweet self” as if she didn't get brutally raped by her nasty husban
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"Now, be gone, while you yet have a tongue to speak with." THE BORGIAS — 2.02
"I would have cut his heart out of his body. But I stayed my hand for the good of the family." THE BORGIAS — 3.04
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THE BORGIAS ↴ Illustration: Juan Borgia's corpse is brought in as Rodrigo, Lucrezia and Cesare Borgia watch. Artist: Lodovico Pogliaghi (1857–1950)
Description: Alexander VI and his children, Lucrezia and Cesare Borgia, looking at the corpse of the Duke of Gandía brought to the Vatican. Woodcut from Francesco Bertolini: Il Rinascimento e le Signorie italiane (Storia generale d'Italia, Vol. 2.), published by Treves, Milano, 1897.
#i'm always fascinated by these types of illustrations about the renaissance especially when they're about the borgias#juan's death had his dad starved and weeping for a whole week that even savonarola was touched and wrote a condolence letter to him#and once cesare wore juan's armor he started having premonitions that his fate might be similar to his brother's#lucrezia greiving juan in los borgia (2006) had me collapsing... when she said “he left without saying goodbye to me :(” </333#the borgias#italian renaissance#renaissance#15th century#painting#portrait#renaissance art#art#rodrigo borgia#cesare borgia#lucrezia borgia#borgia#italian art#historical#history#storia generale d'Italia
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Emma of Normandy and Earl Godwin Vikings: Valhalla S3E2
#these two had the sexiest and most erotic interplay i've ever seen btw#imagine if these two were the leads of the show instead of being supporting characters...oh the eatery#my fav thing about them is when they are with their respective partners in bed and start wondering about what the other is cooking#netflix fumbled them oh well#emma of normandy#earl godwin#vikings valhalla#godwin x emma#reblogs
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DAVID OAKES as EARL GODWIN VIKINGS: VALHALLA 2.05 Birth and Rebirth
#perhaps i need to rewatch valhalla i miss him scheming and being witty with his fuckass bob#david oakes actor of all time. To Me#earl godwin#vikings valhalla#reblogs
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“For greater security, the Pope sent Lucrezia out of Rome to act as Governor of Spoleto. Lucrezia was only nineteen but her appointment was far from being a cynical joke; later in life she was to demonstrate that she had inherited her father’s administrative ability.” — Sarah Bradford, Lucrezia Borgia: Life, Love, and Death in Renaissance Italy
#that's my all time femme fatale y'all you go girl#lucrezia borgia#the borgias#holliday grainger#theborgiasedit#lucreziaborgiaedit#tvedit#femalegifsource#dailywomen#perioddramasource#perioddramaedit#weloveperioddrama#tusertha#tusereliza#usersole#tuserava#cinemapix#tvarchive#dailyflicks#by jen
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François Arnaud as CARDINAL CESARE BORGIA THE BORGIAS — Season 1 (2011)
#nothing could beat his priesthood era. i mean his s3 hair is better but that side part truly makes his good boy appearance looks sinister#we love you cardinal borgia i fear#cesare borgia#the borgias#tysm for the tag 🩵#reblogs
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LUCREZIA GIOVANE (1974) ↴ Cesare Borgia, Lucrezia Borgia, and Juan Borgia.
"Cesare Borgia's perverse passion toward his sister Lucrezia led him to physically eliminate any of her lovers, including his own brother Juan."
#theeee borgias film...to me !!#they're all portrayed sad sexy corrupted vicious and unlikeable !!! (obsessed with them all though)#lucrezia borgia#cesare borgia#juan borgia#lucrezia giovane#perioddramaedit#weloveperioddrama#perioddramasource#tvarchive#cinemapix#tvedit#filmtvgifs#fyeahmovies#moviegifs#onlyperioddramas#dailyflicks#simonetta stefanelli#by jen
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THE BORGIA BROTHERS ↴ on the verge of tears watching their sister with other men
#the cesare/lucrezia/juan threesome wouldn't only save their doomerism but it would save me as well#paolo was lucky enough that juan killed him instead of locking him up at the khia asylum
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that one pet peeve i have is when a random stranger that isn't a mutual mass reblogs my gifsets with oc/fcs instead of appreciating whatever show/film/characters/dynamics that i made the set about
#like who are you and what are all those names i'm crying#like i'm never blocking people for this but i roll my eyes everytime
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It's foolish to attempt murder and to fail.
THE BORGIAS 3.07 — Lucrezia's Gambit
#one thing about raphael is that he's always bewitched and conflicted with lucrezia#the way they challenged each other with so much tension gave me goosebumps because they were literally so impressed with each other#they were even witty at the scene of the crime#“how does one drown a newt?” love how she needed to maintain a composure so bad even in a moment of tension and irony lol#and when he tired to choke her (not aggressively but in a sense to intimidate her) unlocked something in my brain#the show outdid itself in writing great characters because i really hated to see raphael go#lucrezia really enjoyed bickering with raphael lmao i just know she lowkey hated to see him go as well#ofc he departed bitterly after all he was unjustly accused yet also so enchanted by her.#sad they didn't have a reunion after it turned out that his brother is the untrustworthy one#the borgias#lucrezia borgia#raphael of naples#raphael x lucrezia#tysm for the tag 🩵#reblogs
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THE BORGIAS (2011-2013) 1.03: The Moor - written by Neil Jordan
"For all their fighting, I think Juan never took the quarrel with Cesare to heart. [David Oakes] talks about how Juan just was looking for love even if it was in all the wrong places." (X)
#too much purple in this scene i was so tempted to gif it (aside from juan looking like a baby deer ofc)#cesare's bishop robe save me...it takes me out how juan was literally laughing at every cesare joke in this scene like girl stand up#the borgias#cesare borgia#juan borgia#theborgiasedit#perioddramaedit#perioddramasource#cinemapix#tvarchive#dailyflicks#tvandfilm#tvedit#weloveperioddrama#onlyperioddramas#tvfilmsource#usereverything#tvgifs#userzaynab#by jen
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— My angelic sister.
LUCREZIA BORGIA & JUAN BORGIA + MITSKI THE BORGIAS (2011-2013) by Neil Jordan
#been so long since i've done a blended set for these two fucked up siblings. juan's untimely bleak fate left so much unresolved between them#she'll always hate him + think he wants her unhappy x he'll always love her + pettily bicker with her for not recognizing his love for her#self reblog
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Holliday Grainger as LADY LUCREZIA BORGIA THE BORGIAS — Season 1 (2011)
#just went in a queue spree but my jaw dropped when i saw my ethereal vatican princess with nerves of steel#these are too fucking good wtf#lucrezia borgia#the borgias#tysm for the tag 🩵#reblogs
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