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mamapyjama · 2 years ago
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I’ve been rereading the current anime arc in the manga, and finally got to The Apology™️, and I wondered what words Katsuki used before translation.
Disclaimer: I’m sure others must have posted about this before but I couldn’t recall reading it myself. I do remember there was a lot of talk about the way he used “gomen” as the Japanese fandom were saying how cute and childlike it sounded, so I thought I’d see if there was anything else interesting there.
Oh, my sweet sweet baby boy…
So, just before he says ‘Sorry for everything’ (ima made gomen), he says:
言ってどうにかなるもんじゃねェけど
本音だ
出久
“Itte dōnika naru mon ja nē kedo… Honne da…Izuku”
Which in the English translation, gave us:
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And “speak my truth” is lovely and all, but the word from the original that stuck out for me was ‘honne’.
I’m not sure how familiar most people are with honne–tatemae (I only know about it because I go way way too in-depth when researching for my fics lol), but it’s a concept that every Japanese person is deeply aware of, and underpins much of their society.
Here’s the Wikipedia intro:
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Ohhh, that is some extra juicy context for Kacchan’s speech. Essentially, he is saying that everything up until now has been his tatemae, a public façade to protect his own position (strong, powerful hero etc), but that he can’t keep that up and he wants Izuku to see his honne, his true, private self.
Excuse me while I melt from the cuteness.
But WAIT! There’s more!
How much do you know about second-person pronouns in Japanese? (Nope, this isn’t about ‘kare’ again this time hehe).
You’ve probably noticed in the anime that Kacchan says “Temee” a lot, and you may have also noticed that it tends to get translated as cursing. So it actually just means ‘you,’ but like a really rude way of saying it, such that the only way of reflecting that in English is to replace ‘you’ with something like Bastard or Asshole.
Again, have an expert explain:
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This and the below are from a very excellent article about second-person pronouns and how they are used for context and drama in anime specifically. I’d recommend reading it as the context is really interesting!
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So although pronouns aren’t actually commonly used or necessary in much spoken Japanese, when they are used, it’s a deliberate way to tell you about the relationship dynamic between two characters.
But why, you may ask, am I talking about pronouns again?!
Because, dear friends, throughout the first half of his speech, Kacchan uses ‘temee’ as usual to describe his past with Izuku. I’ve highlighted it below, and pls also note the shaky speech bubble showing his nerves during the ‘honne’ section. 🥺
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HOWEVER, straight after he says he wants Izuku to see his Honne, Katsuki switches pronouns from ‘Temee’ (v rude), to ‘Omae’ (very casual/familiar). Below is the page after the apology.
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Considering we now know pronouns are not necessary to convey meaning, that’s a hell of a lot of omaes on one page!! Boy cannot get enough of saying it.
If you want more about the different pronouns, see below for a helpful table of common uses for both. And please indulge my shippy heart for highlighting the second usage (but, like ‘kare’, you never know)…
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Katsuki is showing Izuku immediately and repeatedly that this is who he wants to be to him and how he wants the world to see them. His honne, his inner desire, is to be close to Izuku, to treat him as an equal.
He’s not just saying sorry, he’s showing that—at least from his perspective—things are going to be different from now on. But, like, also, that this was how he felt about him in private the whole time?! GAHHHH.
So there you go, the apology that was already a massive turning point in their story/relationship was actually even deeper and more beautiful than we all thought. Yet again, Japanese conveys nuance and intention far beyond what can be translated. 😭💕
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tomasweetheart · 20 days ago
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gonna have to pry me off him btw.
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stumachher · 1 year ago
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24 DAYS OF HORROR-MAS ( 07 / 24 )
If it's not revenge, what would you want? The Apology (2022) dir. Alison Locke
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ytcomments-archive · 11 months ago
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the-tropes-are-hungry · 3 months ago
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it is with regret that unless I axe 3k of words I really love, these characters are gonna talk their way through the Big Important Conflict of this story instead of fighting each other in the mud as I, their God, intended.
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teamphobia · 1 year ago
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I feel fuxxcking terribkunl
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somehow-still-here-7 · 1 year ago
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Here’s the scene.
It’s about maybe half way through season three.
A series of weird and wild and tragic events has led Aziraphale to Crowley.
They are somewhere (I don’t know where yet) Crowley has his back turned to Aziraphale he’s angry rightly so and Aziraphle is distraught. He’s confessing.
Arziraphale: And it was a mistake, a stupid stupid mistake Crowley. I never should have gone and I’m sorry that I left you, I’m sorry that I didn’t understand, but I do now I do and I- (beat) I was wrong.
Silence.
Crowley still with his back turned his head lowered quietly mutters: Do the dance.
Aziraphale voice quivering slightly: pardon?
Crowley lifting his head now back still turned: do the dance
Aziraphale still in shock does not proceed
Crowley whipping around to face Aziraphle finally: I have had nothing to live for. No one to turn too. No one to rely on. I confessed everything and still you left me the LEAST you can do. Is to do. The Dance.
Aziraphle proceeds with the apology dance.
It doesn’t fix much but Crowley is secretly happy that Aziraphle came back.
Thank you.
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esqueletosgays · 2 years ago
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THE APOLOGY (2022)
Director: Alison Star Locke Cinematography: Jack Caswell
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uneperson · 2 years ago
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The apology
I was gone for ONE day and everything went crazy. THE APOLOGY. I am crying? Maybe a little.
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libritosblog · 7 months ago
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Currently reading: Babel by R.F. Kuang
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Details of what else I’ve read recently below :)
After having read A Curse for True Love (it was pretty good, but TBONA holds the crown for best in the series in my opinion) I read the first volume of Yona of the Dawn, and The Ancient Magus’ Bride. Ended up liking that so I’m currently up to volume 12 on Mangadex, and just returned volume 3 of Yona of the Dawn to the library. I always love finding manga I enjoy reading.
I’m 4% of the way into Babel and I really like it so far! Seems to be just what I was looking for after failing to get interested in The Apology by Jimin Han, and Happy Place by Emily Henry. The Apology seems really good, it just wasn’t what I was in the mood for at the time, and Happy Place didn’t really grab my attention, so I probably won’t pick it back up again.
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goawaywithjae · 1 year ago
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For her upcoming novel “The Apology” (Little, Brown and Company) – which releases on Aug. 1 – Jimin Han culled on years of memories for parts of her book. “I’ve had fragments of it written out on my laptop for years but never knew what to do with them,” said Han, who resides with her family outside of New York City. “I thought they’d be part of a creative memoir about my grandparents on both sides of my family – part mythology, part verified facts. Some of those facts led me to chat with the writer Alexander Chee to see if we were related. Turned out we weren’t, but he encouraged me to write about it anyway, which got me thinking about fiction.”
When a good friend was diagnosed with stage 4 brain cancer, Han said they had weekly Zoom chats to talk about the books they wanted to write. “Those early days of COVID-19 were really terrifying, so we started writing with more urgency in spite of our fears,” she said. “I was [also] still grieving my mother’s death from 2016, so I put a lot of what she’d told me when I was growing up into the novel.”
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brokehorrorfan · 2 years ago
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The Apology will be released on Blu-ray and DVD on March 14 via RLJE Films. The 2022 thriller is streaming exclusively on Shudder.
Writer-director Alison Locke makes her feature debut on the film, which stars Anna Gunn, Linus Roache, and Janeane Garofalo.
Special features are listed below, along with the trailer and synopsis.
Special features:
The Making of The Apology
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20 years after the disappearance of her daughter, recovering alcoholic Darlene Hagan (Anna Gunn) is preparing to host her family's Christmas celebration again with the help of her friend and neighbor, Gretchen (Janeane Garofalo). Late Christmas Eve, Darlene's estranged ex-brother-in-law, Jack (Linus Roache) arrives unannounced, bearing nostalgic gifts and a heavy secret. Soon, Darlene finds herself caught between reason and ruthless instinct. Trapped together by a dangerous storm, a battle of wits escalates to a violent game of revenge.
Pre-order The Apology.
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blackwaterridge · 2 years ago
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I made you the carrier of your father’s sin. You carried it like a warrior. You carried it like a wound.
V, The Apology
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lettherebemonsters · 2 years ago
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It's such a trip watching the Apology on Shudder because I absolutely despise ADA Cutter in Law and Order and I'm like " oh so he really was a creep all along huh...."
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msookyspooky · 2 years ago
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I just watched The Apology (SO FUCKING GOOD BTW I MEAN IT WAS JUST SUCH A DIFFERENT BUT INTERESTING DYNAMIC TO THIS THRILLING SURVIVAL STORY WITH SM HURT AND REVENGE PLOT! Solid 8 out of 10 if mot a 9 out of 10)
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And the dynamic between the villian and the main character reminded me SO MUCH of Stu and YN in my fic. It's literally just a middle aged Stu and YN fighting each other while sharing their pain through talking breaks. From him trying not to fight her but also showing her he has a gun and zip ties to telling her how smart she is while getting pissed the second she's TOO smart and outsmarts him to trying to manipulate the truth over and over to being so in love with her its a disgusting obsession that led to...The twist that I can't say. I don't think even Stu would DO THAT (It's killing me I can't say it I knew from the second he told her his fucked version of the truth but still 😖)
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I really recommend watching it, it's set at x mas time but honestly you barely see any x mas anything in it so it's more of a winter horror. Very The Shining if Wendy had the personality of Juno from Descent or Trish from Jeepers Creepers . Like, shit went DOWN and I could watch it 5 more times easily. I'm demanding my family watch it. The tiktok meme of Evan Peters with a knife near the tv? That is me rn.
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