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aroaceleovaldez · 2 years ago
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good morning it is so very important to me that Nico canonically joined CHB before Will and also ran away after only a week, whereas Will couldn’t have feasibly joined any earlier than immediately before the events of BoTL.
#AALV TSATS liveblogging#tsats#the sun and the star spoilers#the sun and the star#tsats spoilers#pjo#riordanverse#nico di angelo#Mark said that they re-read the entire series with annotations right before working on the book so im blaming this error on Rick#im trusting you Mark#if anyone's curious as to *why* Will couldn't have joined any earlier than BoTL at most:#basically he physically was not in TTC. we know that. at that point even if he *was* a camper he wouldn't have been a year-rounder yet#which means he would have had to join in SoM which *doesn't work*. because that's when we know *Michael* joined chb#we know that because in Ultimate Guide Clarisse mentions that Michael is new. and in SoM we're introduced to an unnamed brash new Apollo kid#and knowing the timeline and the fact that CHB's numbers dropped significantly post-SoM due to the Titan War#that means that Michael. having joined at that point. was the second senior Apollo kid to Lee#which means Will couldn't have joined then because then he'd be equally senior to Michael *if not more.* and been counselor instead#''but what if they went with Michael cause he was older'' we know thats irrelevant because of Annabeth and Clarisse!#both of them are counselors in their cabins despite explicitly having or being implied to have older siblings!#but that also raises the other point of - Will is the same age as Nico. Rick has said that. Which means he would have been *NINE* in SoM#and it is INCREDIBLY RARE that campers join chb (or cj!) before age 12 (in CJ presuming they werent born there of course)#we only know of THREE INSTANCES OF THIS *EVER* AT CHB. Annabeth (age 7) - Nico (age 10) - and Harley (age 8)#not counting Luke's first visit (indefinite infant age)#and we *know* that for Annabeth and Nico (and Luke!) that these were EXTREMELY unusual circumstances and very rare cases#every other camper joins CHB around age 12 or older. there is no reason to believe Will is an exception#especially BECAUSE he's introduced only in TLO! when he *would be 12!* so it makes the most sense for that to be his first year#and he became ''hastily appointed counselor'' because he was LITERALLY 1 OF 3 LEFT IN HIS CABIN and both his siblings are about his age!#he is probably only BARELY senior to Kayla and Austin and thats PART OF WHAT MAKES WILL SO COMPELLING! DUDE'S NEW!#this does also mean Will never met Lee unless he joined RIGHT before the events of BoTL which is also interesting#cause that means the only counselor Will ever saw was Michael (brash and fighty) and hes only ever HEARD about Lee (significantly chiller!)
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massiveladycat · 5 months ago
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i will never get over people laughing at octavian's death personally,,, he was SHOT INTO THE AIR!!! thats so painful. all the burns and the impact, plus being flung from a cannon and probably slamming into gaia (literal earth goddess) plus festus (gigantic metal dragon, i bet that HURT) and leo (pretty sure leo was burning)
he was a kid and he was annoying to some people and he was usually antagonized but he didnt deserve to die OR go out in that way. the gods are a thousand times worse than octavian, and apollo told him that he'd be a savior of new rome, but people still justify them. not to mind there are much worse people in the PJO universe (gabe, LUKE)
octavian ily they could never make me hate you EVER. idc what you say he could have been redeemed. did he do bad things? yes. but he was so deeply influenced and the day meeting with leo and the others, in which i remind you octavian literally was watching new rome get blown up (no wonder he was livid, his home was on FIRE).
like come on. octavian is a complex character and people aren't willing to admit that he could've been better and he was just a literal teenager in the sake of hating him because everyone else/pjo characters hate him.
he is such a tragic character imo because he grew up in new rome and all he wanted to do was protect it (and he was highly ambitious and aiming for praetor, i won't deny the fact that he was selfish but that is a quality that can be REDEEMED) and sure the way he went about it was messed up but most of his actions (except killing that one centurion) were justifiable
btw im not saying octavian's like an angel or anything im pretty sure i remember him "killing" a 5th cohort centurion once but then she was revived which . . . what was the point of that?? was it just to like make us hate him more?? huh??? and then was it even ever talked about again?? also yeah he blackmailed hazel thats not good also judging from the wikipedia it only said frank suspected octavian because.. he didn't have his spear?? what?? reminder that there is proof that a lot of pjo characters are unreliable narrators and for all we know octavian could've screwed up somehow and left his spear somewhere (just saying i'd do that too ngl)
also "I am the savior of Rome! I was promised!" i didnt know why but that quote DESTROYED me but now i know that it was because he genuinely believed he was doing the best for new rome and he'd finally have someone's praise and they'd praise him like they praised percy and reyna. pretty sure his mental state was not very good in that scene either and nico and will just let him shoot himself out of an onager on accident. also are we just going to gloss over the fact apollo told him that and encouraged him he was doing the right thing?? of COURSE octavian trusted apollo on that and believed it was the truth; apollo was his ancestor and someone he worshipped as an augur and trusted in for omens and prophecies and allat
yeah. octavian's an asshole. but he was a kid and he couldve been redeemed. then again i am a huge octavian apologist and im not saying you have to have the same opinions as i do also i will not be responding to any asks in my inbox im 2 tired to deal with that!! anyways dont go and insult people or me if you think the opposite thats fine !! i was just bored and found this in my drafts so whats the harm of posting it because im not going to get sent threats over this right,,, right??????
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aezuria · 7 months ago
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*ੈ✎ something happens and i'm head over heels!
—head over heels; tears for fears
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content: leo valdez x daughter of aphrodite! reader; oneshot
╰┈▸ back cover: part I | part II | part III
warnings: cursing probs, excessive use of like and totally and literally, the seven as found family BECAUSE WDYM THATS NOT CANON
librarian's annotations: delusional guy x delusional girl???? im projecting again also i need yall to be creative and imagine they can use phones in chb
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"guys, i was screaming her name in my head and then she looked at me! it's gotta be a sign!"
cue the synchronized groans.
"that totally means you should ask her out already!" that was percy.
"you have no chance with her, get over it!" frank, obviously.
"leo, you're my best friend, so i hate to break it to you, but maybe you're looking for signs that just.. aren't there?" jason, ever the sensible one.
leo scoffs and sits up on his makeshift bed—two old mattresses stacked on top of each other, ones he dragged from the hypnos cabin into bunker 9—and squeezed his pillow. "jason! a real best friend would encourage me! like percy!" he batted his eyelashes exaggeratedly at the boy sprawled on the floor in front of him.
percy met his eyes with a wink, holding a mock salute to his forehead. "that's me!"
the two other guys shared a look, almost saying are we really friends with these idiots? as if they could be talking.
alldaladiesluvleo shared a note "yo chat, does she like me back?"
"oh my gods you will not believe what just happened!" you practically squealed, feet actually kicking as you laid on your stomach. "so basically— remember this morning the apollo kids made will sing a country song in front of everybody at breakfast?" you didn't wait for any sounds of affirmation from your siblings before you continued. "it was hilarious, and i obviously looked over at leo because, y'know, he's a country guy too, totally not because his laugh is adorable. and guess what? he was already looking at me!" you let an embarrassing giggle into your pillow before you could even explain why this was so crazy. "and like, you know how everyone says you look at the person you like first when something funny happens? guys, i think he totally likes me!"
varied reactions swept through the whole cabin. some, even though you were the children of love, had already grown tired of your "gossip sessions" over basically nothing. others, happily fed your delusions.
"oh my gods, he totally does!"
"are you seriously basing this off a tiktok you saw?"
"he doesn't even look that good.."
um, what was that last comment? you whipped your head to where the sound came from. "what do you even mean? do you have eyes? do you need glasses? can you not see how hot he is? he literally has fire powers! how cute he is? and he's like, scrawny and has a good sense of humor, and confident, and his smile..." the poor new camper, knowing nothing about what was wrong with his statement, was quickly overwhelmed. the others tuned out your rant, having already given their opinions on him and met with the same speech. you sighed, flopping onto your back. "he's so my type."
“i saw him trip on tree root and start talking to it about how rude that was.”
“...what if i said that didn’t give me the ick?”
loveloveyn shared a note "want my man thats not my man fr"
"you guys saw y/n's note, right?" percy asked nonchalantly, scrolling through his instagram feed.
"yeah," jason and frank said in unison.
"no?" leo's head turned side-to-side comically as he looked between the three. "what? her account's private how'd you see?" leo's eyebrows furrowed in concentration as he pieced it together.
"you guys follow her!?" he gasped incredulously. "since when!? why didn't you guys tell me!? and why does she follow all of you back!?"
the three of them shared a look. jason was the first to speak. "well, she followed us first, but it's 'cause she follows everyone! and she's a mutual friend so we followed her back." he shrugged. (they followed her back to stalk her for him, as all best friends would do.)
leo sputtered, his body deflating like a balloon with the air let out. "but she doesn't follow me..." he pouted.
percy to the rescue, once again! "bro, she's probably just shy! like, she followed all of us except you! and she's close friends with piper, and you're close friends with piper, so she'd have no good reason to not follow you except for that!" he gave leo a good-natured pat on the back, trying to soothe his comedian-in-arms.
leo sighed, but brightened up a little bit. "you really think so?"
"yeah!" percy nodded, looking over at the other two once leo turned his back, wincing. who's gonna tell him?
"wait, what was her note?"
"..."
"guys?"
alldaladiesluvleo shared a note "all of yall are FAKE im moving back to texas"
"why doesn't he follow me!? like he follows you, obviously, and annabeth, and hazel, but not me!? what the fuck, man!?" you groaned, slumping onto piper's shoulder, the other two girls sitting in front of you.
annabeth sighed. "have you tried, i don't know, following him first?"
you and piper shared simultaneous gasps. "no! that's like, just, no!"
piper shook her head firmly as she agreed with your disagreeing. "not an option."
hazel finally spoke up. "but don't you want to get closer to him? wouldn't following him do that?"
you put a hand over your heart, emphasizing the gesture. "oh hazel, you've been away for too long. say it with me, 'i don't chase, i attract.'"
"hell yeah!" piper called from the side.
"you're just too much of a coward to ask him out." annabeth deadpanned, making piper snort.
"you're right."
"why are you switching up so fast!?" your head hurt from the whiplash you got.
"because i need help knocking some sense into your delusional ass." annabeth answered for her, an unamused smirk on her face.
"ow! are you trying to break my already fragile heart!?"
loveloveyn shared a note "BETRAYING ME FOR A HOT BLONDE IS SO LOW (id do the same)"
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lilysbookshelf987 · 9 months ago
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New camper: Percy Jackson x reader (daughter of apollo)
A/n: thank you so much for giving this a read! This is my first time writing for the PJO universe so let me know if you like it! Requests are open! No NSFW or Smut! Enjoy
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"Good morning" Percy said tiredly, greeting his best friend Grover at the dining pavilion, taking a seat next to him.
"Morning" Grover replied, "hey did you see Annabeth on your way here? She's usually the first one here and I haven't seen her yet"
As if almost on cue she was walking towards the boys, an excited smirk painted across her face.
"Camp Half-Blood has a new camper!"
"What?!" replied Percy
"She showed up late last night, all alone. Chiron told me she had been hurt pretty badly but he took her into the infirmary and gave her some Ambrosia"
"She took it? So, she's definitely a half-blood?" Percy asked
"Yep! We should be meeting her later today" Annabeth was ecstatic, she loved new campers!
--time skip--
As the day went on there was still no sight of the new camper. Word had made its way around camp and people began to take their guesses as to who was her parent.
"I hope she's in our cabin!" A child of Aphrodite had said
"No! I bet she HAS to be in ours! Showing up without a Satyr by her side means she's a warrior"an Ares kid chimed
"As long as she's not in ours I dont care" a tired looking Hermes kid said.
It was almost dinner time when Chiron had found Percy, sparring with someone from the Ares cabin.
"Percy can I speak to you for a moment?"
"Yeah sure" he said, removing his helmet and recapping his sword.
"Im sure you've heard we've had a new camper join us."
"Yeah it's all over camp" he replied
"Ah yes. Well let's say she hasn't been thrilled to learn about her new family. Reminds me a lot of you when you first came here"
Percy thought back to his first few days at camp. He was confused, scared, angry, and very much overwhelmed.
"I was wondering if you could help ease her mind by speaking to her. You understand what she's feeling better than I can."
"And im not half horse" Percy smiled
"Yes there is that" Chiron chuckled
"Alright I want to meet her!" Percy agreed. He really did want to help, but he also knew how jealous Annabeth would be that he met her first. The two walked into the big house and there she was, staring down at her feet.
"Y/N, this is Percy, son of Poseidon. Percy this is Y/N. I'm sure you two will get long swimmingly" Chiron chuckled at his own joke, "I will give you two some privacy" with that, he left the room. Leaving the two teenagers alone.
An awkward silence filled the room, when finally Y/N broke the silence.
"Son of Poseidon, huh?" she asked
"That's me" he smiled, proud of the title he held.
"That's crazy, the gods don't exist!"
"They do exist. I know it all feels a bit insane at first but-"
"A bit?! My whole life i've had these things coming after me and I didn't understand why. I thought I was insane and seeing things, but apparently that's normal?! And my dad? The reason he's neglected me my whole life was because he was a god?! There's just no way"
"Hey, it's gonna be ok. I know how you feel. I felt like that when I first got here. All my life my dad wasn't someone I had thought about much because I had my mom, and thats all I needed. Then I find out that he's now the most important thing in my life? I had so many emotions, but if you just give this place a chance? I promise everything gets a lot less scary"
This seem to get to the girl. She started to tear up.
"Ok, i'll try." she whispered
"I'll show you around and it'll all be ok, I promise."
The two made their way around camp, Y/N was mostly silent. "The sun is so warm here, it's not like that where I'm from"
"Everything is a little bit stronger here."
"I can tell" she smiled
"So, do you have any idea who your dad might be?" Percy asked, careful not to poke at the sensitive subject.
"I think but I'm not sure. My mom used to talk about Apollo, a way she never did about other Gods"
"Ok then...then we have to find a way for him to see you! If he see's you, he'll claim you!"
"Yeah but how?"
"Gods dont claim you because they feel like it, you have to work for it" Annabeth said, inviting herself to the conversation.
"Y/N this is Annabeth, daughter of Athena"
"Hey" Y/n said
"Percy have you taken her to the archery field? Apollo kids thrive there"
"No I didn't"
"Seaweed brain c'mon!" Annabeth rolled her eyes, "Lets go" she led the two there and put a bow and arrow in Y/N's hands. The girl had fired it easily and hit the bullseye.
"Beginners luck?" y/n asked
"Go again" Chiron said, but before she could something came flying down at her, she shot it down easily.
"That could've killed us" Percy said, mouth agape, "and you shot it down with ease!" he said
"Look!" One of the campers said
Y/N was becoming engulfed in a bright light and a sun appeared over her head. She was now an official resident of cabin 7
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ashoss · 4 months ago
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i wanna jump in on the bat x pjo au! (absolutely obsessed with it btw… the jason and cass being kids of nemesis……… galaxy brain)
(and forgive me if youve already said in a prev maybe)
but do any of the kids have additional demigod powers? like beyond the good at battle, understands greek, stronger than the average bear etc but like how percy can create hurricanes :)
i might have gone over some of their powers in separate posts but ive never really gone into depth on any of them :)
i don’t really want to give them super strong powers (like nothing on the level as the Seven lol). i think them having small sway over things would be best. (btw im going through each cabin's abilities on the pjo wiki :D)
dick as a child of hermes has a bit of increased speed, im not sure how much though lol. definitely stealthier and can sense traps and different locks and stuff. hes probably also pretty persuasive.
babs- since she isn't a demigod but instead a blessed mortal is a bit different from all of them. @pooky-chan sent me a great ask about apollo and babs and her blessing which i thought was very yummy! so babs just finds it easier to find information and find connections between things a bit easier. as they put it apollo "greases the wheels".
jason and cass's powers would be similar to eachother, since theyre both nemesis kids. they both have tychokinesis (what ethan nakamura has on his wiki - so directly controlling "the likelihood of things good and bad things happening to individuals to even out supposed good luck and bad luck") they can sense when people want revenge/vengeance on something.
(theres actually not a lot to go based on for powers for the children of nemesis so im not all sure on it)
its mostly their legacy powers that stick out- cass as a hades legacy can sense death and can actually feel or see a soul leaving a body. she could probably talk to the dead but it causes a physical strain on her. while not as potent as nico's, she could faintly see someones life aura. she can also blend into the shadows easier. (she cant shadow travel or have actual control over the dead.) shes basically Nico Lite (tm) (i also like to think she unconsciously makes the temperature colder when shes around :))
and jason as an asclepius legacy would be able to tell at a glance if there is something medically wrong with someone and has pretty good medical knowledge. (basically jason is a godsend in the medbay). he does have healing powers, but he probably doesnt figure them out until after he's revived. i think it would be interesting if he could only heal other people and not himself :)))) (he also unconsciously heals people) ((also also to foil cass he probably makes the temperature a bit warmer. like how being healed feels warm :DD)
(tim im a little unsure on atm. hes def a child of aphrodite but i do also want to incorperate athena in there too. i dont know if i want him to be like,, 25% aphrodite or 25% athena - basically his parents were demigods- but im still debating a bit between that and child of Venus, as the roman equivalent of aphrodite has more warlike associations - i.e battle strategy... soooo) he has better emotional insight and can sense peoples emotions. he has a light form of charmspeak thats mostly more about sounding Intelligent more than actually influencing people (like an authority bias. people are more likely to listen to him because he sounds intelligent and he knows what he's talking about- ex: if tim were to suggest someone clean something up, they probably would because well, why else would he be suggesting it? he knows what needs to be done.) hes also pretty crafty and has some more strategic intelligence in addition to his bat training lol.
stephanie i think im set on being a child of Cardea (minor roman goddess of hinges). if thats the case, pooky-chan sent another ask where they went over how broad hinges really were. so steph could manipulate hinges and since so many different things contain hinges it could really be a pretty powerful ability.
however i do like child of veritas (roman goddess of truth). in this case she would basically be a human lie detector, and also people would probably feel the need to NOT lie to her.
damian i legit have no clue. hes the one i have the least ideas on lmao. because for him i would also have to go into the LoA and bruce's parents, and both i dont really have anything im set on yet :p. definitely something with magic from the al ghul side tho!
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hollowhearts-and-espresso · 9 months ago
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just little solangelo thoughts
im just chilling going through the solangelo tag so heres some lil thoughts that have been provoked from such activities
-parallel between percy and annabeth standing/sitting back to back in tartarus when they finally can rest bc they have each others backs to nico and will in tsats fighting back to back bc they've both been stabbed in the back enough already
-nico is a literal fucking sewer rat kind of (in the most loving way ofc) but also hes not he literally glows with alt and gothic beauty and has a beautiful accent and an amazing smile and smooth, milky skin and will (who is kind of a beautifully groomed golden retriever) is actually a fucking dumpster dog who jumped out at him when nico was hiding in the alley and hasnt left his side since
-will watched nico let an anemic fucking loser launch himself into the atmosphere and immediately and immensely fell in love and nico took one look at the hand that still has amniotic sac fluid on it holding his and thought 'holy shit i wanna kiss him'
-apollo literally saying 'i dont care if my son has a boyfriend. i've had a lot. and compared to some of mine, holy SHIT could will be doing worse' and i think thats great
-nico and will are not achilles and patroclus they are apollo and hycanth and apollo literally mentioned the similarities he saw in the relationships and im POSITIVE hades sees it too and is so so scared for his son because he saw what losing someone he loved that much did to apollo
-even tho they're not quite achilles and patroclus their love and wrath for the otehrs death would still be enough to shake the gods and im fully convinced zues sat hades down one day and was like 'listen dude you gotta protect the little blonde kid. i dont wanna go through that again' and hades was like 'lol pussy. gotchu tho'
-william andrew solace who is the LITERAL son of sunshine and has magic glow powers and is the best medic the camp has had in years would and probably has poke an infected creature of unidentified species and decide that it’s probably maybe not poisonous and bring it to his bf because why not
-also he definitely has/will have full sleeves of tattoos on both arms and a bunch on his legs and back and they will have absolutely no specific meaning or reason or order (other than the star on his shoulderblade for his first and only love and the sun on his chest for himself)
-nico would get a lot of tattoos but they’d all mean something to him (things bianca used to like, the groups initials, etc)
-william andrew solace was born and raised in fuckin texas with his single rocker mama (who was ALSO born and raised in texas) and is an overworked med student and has gone through all that shit he’s been through by 15. that bitch is a fucking DICK. he will cut you for touching his stuff and if you’re a dick he will absolutely NOT treat you (‘i havent sworn under oath yet as a doctor, chiron’) and he has absolutely pulled a gun on someone back home for the dumbest shit
-nico is a fucking softie don’t lie. he spends one third of his time crying, the other third waxing poetic about his boyfriend will doing normal day shit, and the last third convincing his dickhead sunshine boyfriend to treat the guy with poison ivy because ‘he called me weird, will, that’s not even that insulting’
-kayla and austin have definitely thrown them in the lake. multiple times. it’s a past time at this point. leo has helped on a few occasions and lester did once only to be fucking decked by his son in law for messing up the snack he made for will while will lost his shit laughing in the back
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thoughts on toa
ok so everyone is doing this so imma do it too.
So when I first started reading toast I was like "lesters funny but he's kinda a drama king and thats annoying me a lil" but then,,, like- he started realizing "oH. I FUCKED UP A LIL AS A GOD" and once he started realizing that and acting on the idea that he needed to start being better, hE ACTUALLY BECAME SUCH A GOOD CHARACTER (not that he wasn't already but yk)
So like it kinda when like this
The hidden Oracle: Lester starts as a drama king and I didn't rlly like him too much at first. Like I would literally cringe every paragraph bc he was still in the "im a God and I'm better than u mortals" mindset which is probably why he annoyed me at first. But then he started realizing stuff like, "oh ya maybe that was my fault" example, Daphne and hyacinth. And then also realizing that everyone didn't love him, they just didn't disrespect him bc he could have smited them when he was a god
The dark prophecy: I liked this one a lot actually. Bc meg came back and it showed how much Lester loved her (as a sister) and also had Lester realize that he was kinda petty as a god and that he could have helped a lot more people. AND,,, THERE WAS A OLD LESBIAN COUPLE WHICH I LOVE (I can't remember their names T^T) NOT TO MENTION LEO CAME BACK!!! and the hunters of Artemis, I love them sm.
Burning maze: ...so- I already had spoilers for this one so everytime Callugulas (?) Or Jason's name came out I started tearing up thinking abt what was gonna happen. And Lester sacrificing himself was everything. Literally I was terrified but at the Sam time iT SHOWED SO MUCH GROWTH!!! But honestly I'm glad Jasper broke up bc it was so forced- AND GROVER!!! I LITERALLY SQUEALED WHEN GROVER SHOWED UP!!! and I love all of the dryads sm. And loved coach hedge as well. But honestly it was a rlly good read!! I mean in my opinion Rick is better at first person than 3rd tbh. And Piper slayed. I love her.
The tyrants tomb: ok, I'mma just be honest here, I cried the most during this book. Between Lester almost dying, all of the mentions of Jason, all of the minor characters that died, and everything else, my eyes literally stung by the time I finished reading- BUT DONS DEATH HAD ME BAWLING. I LITERALLY WAS CRYING MY EYES OUT. AND DAKOTA DIED TOO!! I LOVED HIS CHARACTER!!! oh and Artemis and Apollos reunion was SOOO sweet (yes I cried when that happened too). And frazel <33 AND OH MY GODS DON'T GET ME STARTED ON REYNA!!! I LOVED HER BEFORE TTT BUT SHE JUST GOT BETTER!!! I love her sm. And hazel as well!!! AND OH MY GODS (AGAIN) LAVINA!!! MY LIL PINK HAIRED LESBIAN! I LIVE FOR HER CHARACTER! and lavina x poison oak forever bc I love them. But Don 😭 I literally died inside when he died. And oh Hades, meg and her armed unicorns- that was everything- and Apollo seeing how his actions hurt other people like the silent god and the voice in the jar (I'm terrible at names sorry) was such a character arch as well.
Tower of Nero: I'm just gonna say it,the solangelo in this book gave me life. They were so CUTE. and the ....hat creatures (i can't spell their name) were hilarious ngl. AND RACHEL SAW THE BROOKLYN HOUSE AND ONE OF FELIX'S PENGUINS- I LITERALLY STARTED LAUGHING SO HARD DURING THAT SCENE- oh my gods and don't get me started on how much the python and Apollo scene scared me. I was like holy shit Apollos gonna die! Dues flash, he didn't but yk- and meg and Apollo were the best. AND LOU!!! OH MY GODS I LOVED HER!! and I feel bad for all of neros adopted kids :( but Apollo after he became a god again literally shocked me so much- like- he forgave his father!! That shocked me so so much but I was so proud of him 😭
Anyways overall, I loved this series so much. The characters were amazing,the plot was amazing, Apollos character arch was wonderfully written- and I just loved it.
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seavoice · 1 year ago
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the olympians generational trauma is so so important to me. rick focused a lot on trauma and abuse in toa but he never focused on the fact that for apollo its inherited. he never focused on how it was a cycle and how it all started with ouranos and fathers and sons and wanting to do better and end up succumbing and and and
cruelest thing is that he was so close to touching on it too. in THO, there’s a paragraph about rachel saying they can choose their fate and apollo thinking “i’ve seen thats not possible, i’ve seen people repeat patterns thinking they’re doing something different when they’re just retracing the same paths previous generations took, but there’s something admirable about human persistence.” in TON there was a whole page about how “there never were any good old days since the problems never change as mortals and gods alike carrying their own baggage with them, but we should overcome it and move forward.” like you want to talk about the generational trauma so bad PLEASE DO IT OLD MAN. im on my hands and knees FUCKING DO IT. i don’t believe in the olympian revolution i believe in the olympian revelation PLEASE let them see the pattern and realize they have to change, not so that they can avoid the threat of war, but so they can heal and recover from the trauma they inherited from those that came before them.
SAY that anon!! It's all inherited. They want to change, but no God believes they can! Percy tries to have faith at the end of Last Olympian (a lesson he is quite literally pushed to the edge by Echidna to learn in Lightning Thief), despite Hermes shutting him down, and is paid dust for it. They don't believe it themselves. They don't believe in themselves. Hermes says he doesn't believe they can change. So does Apollo. So do Hades and Zeus and Poseidon and Athena and everyone else -- and even if they do change, it's so small and over so long that they find the world has moved under their feet again. And a lot of it is because they believe they're destined for the same vicious cycle. They wouldn't try so hard to avoid it (and fail) if they didn't.
Riordan really had the bones of a very interesting family story in PJO; clearly by the time he hit ToA he was AWARE that there was a scope for some commentary of generational trauma. He does make allusions to it in Apollo's POV, he's always going on about family therapists and how fear motivates them over love, the whole tyrants are insurmountable monologue. I wish I could quote certain passages because they are certainly...present, but my brain is just too fried at the moment to go searching for them.  But I think at the end of the day, he either felt he didn't want to tackle it overtly or change up the structure of his world building by so much. I think it's a poorer series for not doing so, although at the same time I appreciate that we do not look at the morality of these gods or their (for lack of a nuanced term) trauma, and their familial bonds through an entirely "mortal" perspective. I would rather not have a book long therapy session about this. We had TSATS, and I will do anything to avoid that kind of story LMAO.
I think it's also frustrating that Riordan (despite his many many flaws) comes so close to giving a genuinely fascinating reimagining of godly familial dynamics in a middle grade/YA series. That's why when he falls short of the natural conclusion of like... acknowledging conversations about generational wounds it grates doubly so. That's the great thing about the mythology premise -- it's fertile soil for a fun, monster-fighting series for kids, but it also comes with a meaty backstory to exploit, so to speak!  PJO is about family, over everything -- your chosen one, your lost one, your immortal, messy one. It's about never escaping your shadow, it's about seeing your father's eyes in your son's.
Personally I find it SO great that Zeus kills and entraps and tries to snuff out the prophecy (and the prophecy kids!) because he's scared, he's so paralyzed by fear of destruction and then the real threat is his own bloodthirsty father who hated them. That scene at the beginning of The Lightning Thief when Zeus and Poseidon are fighting and Percy tries to stop them but there's a voice--Kronos!--goading them on? Metaphor city. I wish we kept that energy consistently. It's all in the family, baby!
It's all about the cycles of inescapable tragedy. When you build a kingdom on the ruins of your father who wants to kill you...and instead of breaking the cycle, power and paranoia corrodes you until you propagate it to the extent that you end up afraid not of yourself becoming your father, but of your son becoming YOU. When you've lost the plot so so bad.
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existential-life-crisis · 3 months ago
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☆ Get to know me :) (updated)☆
Hi! A bit of info to start with: I'm a minor; a lesbian; and a cis girl (she/her).
Ethnicity and language
I live in England and currently only speak English fluently however I am currently studying both French and German! (German is definitely my favourite of the 2)
Subjects and Interests
My favourite subjects are Maths and Classical Civilisation but I enjoy most subjects. (Lessons can still suck tho bc dam some teachers can be boring)
I enjoy drawing, playing games, reading (books and fics), listening to music and watching youtube.
Video games
I have a few favourite games at the minute:
• Hades
• Horizon: Zero Dawn and Forbidden West
• Genshin Impact
Finished games I still love:
• Astro Bot (its a vr game abt a little robot)
• Spiderman PS4
• Spiderman PS5 Miles Morales
• Portal 1 and 2 ♡♡♡
I am also 100% a completionist so if I finish a game I probably have 100% on it.
Reading
My fav books are everything Rick Riordan but i plan to read some other stuff as well soon.
My fav characters from the main series are Nico, Leo, Frank and Lester/Apollo but I do love pretty much all of the main cast. I haven't read Magnus Chase or Kane Chronicles since I was a kid so I'm gonna reread those before deciding favourites but I think they were Alex and Carter. Also, in love with all of the side characters even if they are 90% hc.
My fav canon ships/friendships are
• solangelo (Will x Nico)
• percabeth (Percy x Annabeth)
• frazel (Frank x Hazel) (But I do hc that either Frank was younger or Hazel was older bc the age gap was a bit strange in canon, being 13 and 16. Its a bit inconsistent , as all ages are in PJO, but if time works normally Hazel should be 14 and therefore definitely older than Nico too but thats a topic for another time)
• shelper (or shipper as I like to call them) (Shel x Piper)
• Lost trio (platonic)
• PJO trio (platonic) (Grover my baby, why must they always forget you)
• Lester and Meg (I dont think i have to say this but platonic) (please say I don't have to say that. No one ships that right)
• Reyna and Thalia (platonic) (omg let aroace characters exist in peace) (no hate if u ship it but my gods)
Fanon ships/friendships
• Valgrace (Leo x Jason) (but aroace Leo is still amazing)
• Pollen (Apollo x Darren) (Is this entirely about Dear Reader by wrongcaitlyn? Yes. Do I care? Nope. Am I insanly invested in their relationship? Oh absolutely.)
• Nico and Leo (platonic) (This had no reason to not be canon and had every reason to be and I will never forgive Rick for this until he fixes it)
• Frank and Leo (platonic) (I swear every book they would fix their relationship and then as soonas the next one starts they would hate each other again)
• Nico and evey side character ever (platonic) (especially year round campers) (bc hes genuinely just a nice guy)
• Will and Clarrise (platonic) (this is kinda canon but all we really know is that he can calm her down)
Feel free to ask for fic recs if u want them.
Music
My fav music artist is 'Grandson'. (He writes rock/alternative/indie/rap (?) music often about political/social/personal issues.)
But I listen to tons of other kinds of music too from metal to pop to instrumentals by a ton of different artists:
• Måneskin (italian rock band)
• Polyphia (instumental, primarily guitar, math rock)
• Chappell Roan (yk who that is)
• Chase Atlantic (u have probably heard at least 1 of their songs, pop/alternative/indie/r&b)
• Dutch Melrose (alternative/indie/pop)
• Mother Mother (yk who that is right?)
• Eminem (right?)
• MSI (punk/alternative/rock)
And a whole lot more
I also play guitar (acoustic and electic).
TV
Loveeee Spiderman: Into and Across the spider verse.
My fav characters are Miles, Hobie, Pavitr, Spidernoir and Gwen but I love all of them.
Shows:
• Avatar the Last Airbender
• The Legend of Korra
• Batman: the animated series
• Voltron :)
Beliefs
Im an atheist but I support people of all religions. I support Palestine. I am left liberal (again I'm British so keep that in mind, I know nothing abt US politics besides the basic/well known stuff). I believe in equal rights for all groups and am open to other ideas and perspectives.
If you cant respect that then please get of my page. You don't have to agree with me but you do have to respect me and others.
Thats all for now.
Byeee ♡♡♡
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voiidegg · 7 months ago
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i have so much to say about spirit of justice. spoilers and a video under the cut ofc, i'm not holding back :D
i went through all the stages of grief with this game. this game fucking ruined me.
it took me ages to properly get into this game, practically everything about it pissed me off. but the final case happened and that's when i finally got invested. i know SOJ is a fan favourite, but for me personally the only actual good case is the final case. might be controversial?
all i wanted was for apollo to bond with dhurke finally. thats all i fucking wanted. WHY DOES THIS FRANCHISE HATE HEALTHY HAPPY FAMILIES? WHY DOES EVERY PARENT DIE? I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE MAN. i thought they had a chance after it was revealed amara was alive, but NOOOOO DHURKE HAD TO BE DEAD THE WHOLE TIME. then i saw the photo of his body and i just SOBBED , which is also in the vid above ofc, bc this CASE BROKE ME
rayfa being dhurke and amara's kid was tooooo satisfying to me. i picked up early on that the queen took the power from amara. i also suspected early on that the queen couldnt channel shit. we never saw her do anything, and she wanted that orb way too much. rayfa having her character arc was so great. she became very likeable :D
jove getting his seance made me so happy too. baby apollo :') and im happy apollo stayed in khurain, like dhurke wanted.
anyway i hope you all enjoy the compilation of my playthrough featuring @raccoonzilla . im glad i finally finished this franchise. toooo much angst :')
final thoughts: justice for apollo and trucy. they need to know theyre half siblings </3 also im so mad we never found the founder's true name. i was hellbent on a theory that the founder was ami fey lol. oh well
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goofyjelly · 1 year ago
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Star Trek TOS (2x02) : Who Mourns for Adonais?
Oop Scotty is in love (this girl WILL die)
GIANT HAND
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Vulcans are a bummer, so don't beam down the sad man >:(
Again with the casual Vulcan slander! Why do they keep doing my boy dirty like that???
Fjsldjskdj oh no the girl Scotty likes beamed down, she's not beaming back up 💀💀💀 Scotty can't have shit on the enterprise 🥲
APOLLO ->
APOLLO
Hehe the hand is so silly
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THE POV SHOT OF THEM ALL LOOKING UP AT APOLLO-
Fascinating ✨✨✨
Oop Scotty's crush is a mythology nerd she's DEFINITELY leaving Scotty for Apollo or something INSANE like that.
Kirk , you can't really immediately believe he's the God Apollo-
YES SCOTTY WE ARE CAPABLE OF WRATH!!!
oh fuck no I was KIDDING! I was KIDDING when I said that girl would fall in love w-
"you seem wize, for a woman" excuse me???
I can excuse the god-like wrath, but NOT THE SEXISM
Scotty 🥺 the narrative hates you, I'm so sorry 😭
Ah jeez, she's DEFINITELY into it 💀💀💀
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BWAHAHAHAJ GHE COSTUME CHANGE WHY- WHY?! She really just immediately abandoned the captain and the enterprise. Like girlie you took an oath. DONT ACT LIKE THIS IS A SACRIFICE TO YOU-
Scotty is so sweet,
Okay Kirks right, maybe I was so fast to judge her, maybe she's trying to get info. The star trek pattern of lots of dumb women is getting to me.
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Spock, you're doing great, but this clearly isn't working
She seems a bit too smiley to be doing this for "strategic purposes" 💀
Ooo okay so in star trek universe Greek mythology is real but they were all aliens? Okay, thats definitely a choice™
"God's took mortals to love and care for-" oh oop called it.
"Spock's contaminating this boy, Jim" awwwwww Chekov <3
Apollo really out here with an extra organ in his body oh boy.
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THE LIGHTNING WHAT!
Scotty, sweetie, you're amazing, but-
OH OKAY THINGS ARE HAPPENING KIRK IS DYING WTF????
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Shatner's acting is so fucking funny for some reason oh my gosh Kirk is choking on the ground I should NOT be laughing right now 💀
Also I know they just casually mentioned it as a Bit, but i think it's so cute that Spock is mentoring Chekov or something to that affect.
Uh oh I think Apollo is worn out a bit. LIKE THAT CAT IN THE RUSSIAN STORY- Pavel, never change.
Uhura is tinkering ✨✨✨ love her
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"I can think of no one better equipped to handle it" SO TRUE, SPOCK!!!
wait does that girl have god powers now or-
"Mankind has no need for gods" oo? " we find the one quite valuable" OOOOH okay.
"GO!" They really went full on middle school lunch room on his ass fjskjfkdjdk
Lieutenant, stop getting emotionally attached to the Greek god Apollo 💀💀💀 Kirk is so done oh my gosh
Im hoping she's actually super smart and this whole attitude is an act. I may have to apologize to women again.
Become the mother of a new race of gods AYOOOO?????? UM???
okay he needs to stop , actually. Yup nope okay she's down BAD. Poor Scotty 😭
Kirk : "how old are you?"
Chekov : "22"
Kirk : "then I better handle it-"
Pavel 🥺 you're like a child to everyone here, how the fuck did you graduate the academy at 22-
In like ten minutes I've went from calling him Chekov to Pavel , the illness is real.
LIEUTENANT , SNAP 👏 OUT 👏 OF 👏 IT 👏 "HE'S SO LONELY" MY ASS!
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Kirk, your rizz might not be able to get us outta this one
Kirk, Tell that to Spock's parents. Being from different species didn't stop them if you know what I mean-
She's trying to switch back to being On Duty , yes you're a scientist. I KNEW SHE WAS A SPECIALIST OF MYTHS. "Illogical. I could no more love you than I could love a piece of bacteria"
I owe women another apology, she's back ✨
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RHE EDITING OH MY GOSH
The end 😃
W H a t
Okay that's not the most insane thing ever, actually. The ending felt a tiny bit rushed but that could've just been me.
Also Chekov is literally a child compared to everyone else on board- like of course 22 isn't a child but Kirk is, I wanna say, in his mid thirties at least (based on how long ago he says things took place in his life and how old he was then; like Taurus 4 and different things hes done as a lieutenant ), and no one else in the main cast is supposed to be 22.
That was a decent episode; not one of my favs but definitely not the worst. I probably won't do a rewatch for a while, but that's cus I have odd taste lol.
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architect-annabeth · 2 years ago
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i'm so curious like apollo kids act as medic and help treat and heal other kids at camp and yeah that makes their dad is the god of doctors but. do they also like take care of dental?
yeah sure everyone on camp can theoretically have fantastic dental hygiene but you know thats not true. one they can have access to any food they want. sweets, sodas, you name it they can conjure it.
also youre a brooding kid/tween/teen wondering why does your parent/s hate you and you wonder if you're going to make it to twenty and boy does that take a toll on your mental health and affect everything else in your life.
and when i was growing i only knew like two people who never had a cavity in their life.
got off track but yeah whose handling these kids dental. do they like wait until a monster knocks them out and hope the tooth gets loose. or can they down ambrosia and hope the cavity gets fixed. does anyone had to tie a string around their tooth and have their sibling slam a door shut to get it out. im so curious sjhgfkjshfdlkg
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gayspock · 2 years ago
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ok i finally have time im gonna watch part 2 at LAST
problemo number one. ive forgotten girlies' names. i remember starbuck, my friend starbuck. an DFUCKING GAIUS.. + boomer shes cute....
but i dont recall anyone else's NAME-names if you get me. just vibes
and i liked everyone i think smile so its like good vibes
also "jumping" COME ON. COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME. WARP FACTOR PUSSY. STARBUST. HYPERDRIVE. JUMPING? COME ON. NOT EVEN JUMPING AND POPPING? JOP OR KYS
yesss i knew the girlies would be alive. missus president and the son . theres no way they need to milk him for the drama.. APOLLO. i forgot his name. of course they called him apollo.
THE way gaius is just shaking like a tiny fucking puppydog. oh im going to kick him like a football. whilst he hallucinates a beautiful blonde woman in horror.
tyrol yes his name is tyrol. i love him hes my friendies.
woahi want a beautiful lady chip in my brain to torment me. dorito flavour please!
will this wee cunt be a recurring guy. the arms dealer. i think he'd be a funny addition to the girlies.
I ALSO LIKE THE OTHER GIRL. WHATS HER NAME. tyrol's little.... colleage ehrm. CALLY. SAYS GOOGLE. SMILE. shes so cute
AND BILLY. HES JUST FUCKING VIBING ISNT HE. COULD YOU EVEN IMAGINE.... bles- billy now why did you tell her that. im obsessed with you billy. violence. a bit of billy badness
also fucking hell, this is fucking . good heavens. ... sorry i realise im never discussing whats occurring in the episode im just like wow i li- CHILD DEATH. 😐...
anyway as i was saying like i do rlly like this so far HOWEVER both the vibe & the characters, i have to wonder... how many holdover to the main show hmmmm. im sooo curious
"didnt include a soul in programming" then what do you call the brave redditors on the advent of code sub, making the most bjeautiful visualisations
EVERYONE JUST NECKING IT ON
THE WAY GAIUS' EYES BOGGLED LIKE YEAH BILLYS GOT THE RIZZ YEAH HE DOES . THE FUCK YOU LOOKING AT. AND YOU TWO- WHY ARE YOU GETTING SLOPPY WITH THAT KID JUST STOOD THERE. HEAVENS ABOVE.
oh dear OH NOES
OH MISTER ADAMA LOOK OUT
GOOD HEAVENS
SO MUCH FOR THE CHEEKY LITTLE CRIMINAL IT SEEMS HES- oh good heavens well. to narrate the scene its . its like his head is an ikea kit and mister adama is trying to- oh goodness me
catgeroy 5 #girl event from mister adama (bludgeoned a cunt to death)
gaius is beyond a fucking menace im actually kind of crazy for it -the fucking... YOU CANT ATTACK A MAN IN A RUST COLOURED BLAZER, SILLY.
"lee" or "apollo" (VERY transmasc names btw) not telling his dad he was still alive (transmasc activity) is so me
him hugging his dad is so not me though
ALSO THE WAY GAIUS IS LIKE. ,.. THEYRE LIKE "rumour has it youre a genius" WHEN HES ALSO NOT DONE ANYTHING THIS WHOLE TIME LIKE I DONT DOUBT IT BUT ALSO HES JUST HAD THINGS HAPPEN TO HIM. LIKE... HES LIVING LIFE IN CRIT 1S AND NAT 20S.
ALSO THE WAY HES FUCKING . GETTING THIS GUY BC HE CAUGHT HIM GETTING HIS JOLLIES OFF TO A HALLUCINATION. GAG. AND THE WAY HES CONVINCING THESE GUYS IS JUST SAYING WHATEVER THE FUCK
also ONE criticism i have is im not sure how if eel about some of the music. some of it is so out of place its like kinda odd
"and i studIED PUBLIC RELATIONS!"
its such a big mistake to cross a girl in a statement blazer who studied public relations. you are so going to get your comeuppance for this.
i was about to comment on the cussing & i went to go look at tv tropes to see if there was a specific term for it and can i say tv trops are so funny i scrolled past and it said "gordon bennett" was made up for red dwarf and then underneath there's a note thats like"TRUTH IN TELEVISION. THIS IS USED IN THE UK." LIKE HELP PLEASE
anyway obviously #farscapeheads we cant really talk here but help. FRACK. OF ALL FUCKING WORDS. GOOD HEAVENS. WHAT THE FRICKITY FRACK IS GOING ON. THE
SO theyre going to try to... GO TO EARTH. HUH.
the implications of that.... ok
also YAAY FOR SOME KID. WOO. YIPPEE. LOVE IT WHEN THERES JUST SOME KID DICKING ABOUT THE MILITARY OPERATIONS.
bonus pointd when the kid is wearing a turtleneck. so sensible and smart
ALSO LEE. apollo. he seriously dors look like someone took the average tv boytoy from 2004 and got the mean average its so funny
i do love their slaggy little vests. theyre not like the standard ones that are already quite slaggy. its like theyre from plt's clearance sale
HI PUBLIC RELATIONS ARE YOU OKAY
oh my god he was acylon
WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT GAIUS. THE CRITS. THE NATS. PLEASE.
m
MY
MY GIRLY BOOOMERR? YOOOOOOOOOOOO
RIGHT
I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF MURDER BUT IM STARTING TO SIDE WITH THE CYLONS I DONT TRUST ANY OF YOU BITCHES WHAT
OKAY END OF EP SMILE i finished the mini series yaaayyyy
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all of my Polka redesigns! (polka is a character i made) from around 2014 to today
her name is polka but it was at various points pola, apollene, apollo. a couple characters also merge into her, i will tell you when.
i didnt date my drawings so every date will be an estimate but they will definetaly be in order bc i know how my style evolved. this is all the art i kept, i threw alot out.
i wrote more and then tumblr deleted it hh but tldr all my old characters are super personal self inserts and this one is my adhd before i was diagnosed
each description will be under the drawing its describing.
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heres the first pola! that was in 1 or 2 year of middleschool. she was loosely based on my friend pola from summer camp and spiced up with the fun bubbly character archetype (example pinkiepie from my little pony) she cant stop herself from being energetic and over the top, she will either cheer you up or annoy you. she is kind of lighthearted at this stage and lacks the later bitchiness, all the problems she causes are not on purpouse. in this drawing (if you cant tell.. i dont blame you) she is hanging from the ceilling and thats why everyone else is upside down
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i used to glue all my good drawings into a sketchbook. these are all from middleschool still. bottom left is marceline, based on a goth girl by the same name whom i met at the hospital. one thing about my irl friend is she would cling to the popular older kids bc more freedom and privilleges
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now heres a whole page of temmie, a travelling salesman i really didnt want to admit was based on temmie undertale. thats late middleschool. what is she doing here? by the time we reach highschool there will be no temmie because i thought it was too unoriginal, but all the character traits and some design elements (notably utility vest) will be merged into polka and become half of her.
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this is a highschool drawing where polka splits into 2 again. the one who keeps the name polka is the short one in front and her character is the same, however from her old design only a bandana and blouse remain. the other polka-esque character on the left is fairly unimportant and merges back in about 2 years.
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more highschool polka with a vintage headband instead of the bandana she used to wear. on the right pretty girl version.. The one on the left is a bit more sassy and in character.
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here is where i take stuff seriously bc i finally want to use my characters in a comic. its the end of the 3rd year of highschool. the design is more stable after this point.
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i try to tie the old in with the new
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ultra small era
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last redesigns for the comic and highschool sketches
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this one is from today! she will keep evolving tho. right now shes a wolf(?) instead of a cat(?) short hair seems to suit her more because she wouldnt care for her long hair and keep it healthy but she still wants to be pretty and cool. how cartoony she is and what nose she has depends on what shes in, if i decided to make a super serious comic i would give her a human nose. one thing im not sure about is the colors, i think green is a realistic color for a vest like that if she got it used or found it in her dads closet (she did for sure) but green is not a very energetic color so i also liked when the vest was yellow and the sleeves red. Red is the color of her personality. when i stopped wearing pins i stopped giving her pins, and i stopped bc they make noise and annoy me so they would annoy her too and reduce her cat/wolf stealth (but im concidering giving her patches for that pop of colour. probably 4-5 on the back and 1-2 on the front above the pockets). Polka is a thrill seeker, energetic, an anarchist, and a bit of a hedonist. she will always cheat if she can, and she doesnt always recognise other peoples needs, but she tries to keep the people around her in a good mood and is always a social butterfly until bad rumours inevitably spread about her (i dont see her as a bad person though, shes just like that and theres little to do about it besides damage control)
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phoenixfangs · 1 year ago
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>:3c fandom askies for aa, depending on your Mood
Salty: 1, 8, 10, 25
Neutral: 16
Posi: 17, 18
JAJAJAJAJAJAJA pepper coming in clutch as always, and u KNOW im gonna do all of them, mood be damned. going under a readmore because i rambled!!
the character everyone gets wrong
maybe its a boring answer but phoenix. good god do people just Not understand him. i think the fact weve seen him in so many forms (feenie, trilogy, 7yg, aa5/6) makes it hard for people to get a pin on him, but thats the thing: u cant really get a pin on someone like that. too often i see stuff where, well into his thirties and having gotten his badge back, people portray him as just as outwardly emotional (and sometimes emotionally volatile...) as he was when he was dating dahlia, and Thats Simply Not The Case, especially after how guarded and jaded he became during aa4. hes SUCH a complicated character i cant even go into specifics and try to give other examples, because they each require paragraphs of their own explaining context and nuance in what goes through his head. i dont know how else to go on, just know that i am the only person who is correct about phoenix wright, and if anyone requires consultations for fic or art, my fee is steep but fair
8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about
all of them. no im kidding, uhhhhh hm. i guess that klavier and apollo Immediately knew they liked each other/were attracted to each other and spent any time pining for the others affection during aa4. i like klapollo as a ship, i just dont think klav teasing apollo with flirtation when they first meet means he was Seriously Flirting with apollo, i think its possible there was a base physical attraction but he was mostly just trying to get apollos goat for fun since he was a rookie attorney. and because of that, what reason does apollo have to be drawn to klavier? apollo isnt some stock tsundere, i think he probably was really annoyed by klavier and Didnt Like Him All That Much at first. plus, with aa4s story being what it is, i just dont think any romantic feelings are on either of their minds until well after the last case. with their ship, i like to imagine they start as professional adversaries (not rivals in the sense phoenix and miles are rivals, its a different vibe), then become friends, THEN graduate to exploring other feelings
10. worst part of fanon
all of it. no im kidding, the worst part of fanon is how rigidly people expect u to obey it. if u dont portray miles as a gay trans man, people look at u weird, for example. which isnt to say that its Bad to follow that fanon, obviously i also think hes gay (i dont personally headcanon him as trans though) but just that it is fanon. until we get concrete proof in a game or anime or what have u of miles demonstrating or naming his sexuality/gender expression, it is just as perfectly valid to portray him as a cishet man as it is to portray him as a gay trans man, even if i personally think its weird and impossible to imagine him with a girlfriend or something. its fine to have different interpretations of whatever; its Not fine to get mad at somebody because theyre not following fanon that u personally ascribe to
25. common fandom complaint that ur sick of hearing
'i dont read wlw content because its all the same :( why are all the mean lesbians getting so mad that my mlm ship is just better :( its not my fault those stupid broads arent written as well as my spicy yaoi :( what do u mean one half of my mlm ship is a lamp ur just being mean to a mlm because ur bitter that ur stupid bitches arent written as well as my mlm gay disaster babies :( stop bullying me for no reason u crazy psycho cunt this is why nobody gives a shit enough about ur dumbass wlw ship to make anything for it :('
obviously nothing wrong with mlm ships, i have been known to enjoy many mlm ships! but when a wlw (particularly a lesbian...) complains about the disproportionate amount of mlm fan content between characters who literally never spoke, stood next to each other once, or where one of them is literally Not A Character (clay terran is a prop i am not wrong about that), its SO FRUSTRATING to see the response be someone taking it as a personal attack and throwing the blame back out at wlw for not just shutting up and dealing with it. that post that showed among us had significantly more mlm fics over wlw fics on ao3 when Those Stupid Creatures Dont Even Have Gender/Character applies to like literally every other fandom
16. u cant understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc.)
any situation in which phoenix depends on miles for money during 7yg. similarly, royalty/medieval au where phoenix is some kind of servant to prince miles, and yes being a knight counts as being a servant in my mind. these two things feel wayyyyy imbalanced to me but in fanworks theyre portrayed as like necessary and appreciated by phoenix (in the money situation) or really romantic (in the royalty/medieval situation). idk, to me, phoenix would rather saw off his own arm and eat it than accept money, especially from miles, during 7yg, and if he did accept it it would only be because miles says 'let me do this for trucy then if ur gonna be so stubborn about it' and he Begrudgingly Agrees; with phoenix being miless knight, it just feels too much like people seeing phoenixs one-sided devotion to miles in aa1 and going 'this is normal and desirable behavior', and idk how to tell people this but phoenixs savior complex over miles is Not Good fjkdsjlfslak like it worked out for them but i dont think phoenixs behavior towards miles in aa1 especially is indicative of a well adjusted, emotionally stable person, and that hardly ever gets talked about its just 'wee wah hes soooo in luuuuurve isnt that romantic'
17. there should be more of this type of fic/art
siblingsssss there are so many good sibling pairs/groups in aa. also wlw ship stuff In General because there is never enough in any fandom. also also (because i love to kick the hornets nest) more fic where the intention is to Tell An Actual Story With The Characters instead of projecting the authors trauma and/or kinks and/or personality onto the characters where it doesnt fit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18. its absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...
idk if krisnix counts as slept on because ive only been in the fandom for a couple years, i know things were different like 10-15 years ago and maybe it was more popular then, but. krisnix. jfkdsjfls. there is soooooooo much narrative drama u can cook up with these two, so many scenarios and angles, and uve got 7 whole years to fill!! and u can be as serious and somber as u want, going into mental health and toxic relationships and what it means to spend so much of ur life with someone who is so bad for u but letting go isnt easy because thats years of ur life with that person ur being asked to let go of, OR u can be silly and say that kristoph is christian grays lawyersona, because come on i dare anyone to try and tell me kristoph Isnt Also the worlds worst dom
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yellowistheraddest · 2 years ago
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heres the things that i know from each game, spoilers ahead duhh.. and also long post
AA4
played through the first case and got through the 2nd case's first investigation section
kristoph is evil, no clue why but slay ig
theres a purple girl who draws
apollo and trucy are (half) siblings
trucys grandad got killed and her uncle did something and fucked up their family
klaviers guitar sets on fire
klavier knows a&t's mom, doesn't know shes their mom because she mysterious - go, girl!!
klavier has a friend with haircut that legit looks like a pp
klavier was the one who got phoenix disbarred
apollo screams
ema is useless, as expected of a detective character (sorry not sorry gumshoe, at least he was funny)
apollo has a cat
uhhhh trucys bio dad gets killed, that's what he gets for abandoning his kid
the music cornered music is great
and other small details
also -20/10 for no edgeworth content, absolutely fucked up
AA5+6 as i cant differentiate between them
horrible 3d models im throwing up and crying
played through the first case on both games
apollo goes emo
athena's whole mood gag gets boring real quick
athena mom is a lesbian, happy pride history month
simon didnt kill her, not sure, pretty sure he got framed and got into death row
bobby!!! idk what he does but he is great
phantom more like, phan - im pretty sure its Simon or bobby because theres no other major new characters to fill the role - tom
apollo has a new fucking backstory and an astronaut friend cause why not ig
phoenix gets his badge back - and continues being a bi icon
clown tiddies
that's all i can think of for what i think is aa5..
aa6 is the worst game by far literally just delete it
the fucking princess that does the dance ... literally run her over with a bus - interacted with her once and i never hated someone more (i will be hater even if she has a decent character arc dont worry)
apollo lived in khuran (idk if that's how you spell it) because his back story wasnt a shit show already
epic dog content (aka edgeworth stands there with a dog on his neck, fashion world is quaking)
nahyuta is like apollos brother ig and their dad is like planning an uprising (anarchy my beloved)
nahyuta was supposed to be a gender nonconforming character and they chickened out, L
whats crack-a-lackin homie
phoenix goes to khuran alone but some shit happens and the entire crew comes
sorry the 3d models are horrible and the cut scenes with the voices..... literally why, the trilogy was fine without the cut scenes
the iconic flying chapel conversation, literally the reason I'm homophobic /j
the pun names are 40 times worse
in one of them phoenix is a prosecutor idk why but ig he got inspired by 3-4
thats about all i can think of now..
so yeah ive been eyeballing most of the shit for the past 3 years
i really should play aa4, 5, 6 cuz i know fuck all about anything besides the main characters.. also the trilogy is getting kinda stale
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