#that is *not* 'chaotic neutral' people.......
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caldella · 2 days ago
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I had this moment going through S1.
I was so neutral on him until Harvest Moon. When Striker tried to force him to shoot Moxxie and he got SO LEGIT PISSED that he bit Striker on the arm.
Before then he'd basically just been antagonistic to Moxxie. He was so selfish and chaotic all the time, and I kind of thought he was just going to be another flat selfish lead protag of an adult cartoon show. When he claimed he was faking taking Striker's deal, I wasn't sure if he meant it or was saving face because Moxxie arrived to help. But this! This was legit rage that Striker could try and force him to hurt Moxxie. This was the point where I thought, "Okay, so he's one of those characters who is selfish externally but draws a line at anyone trying to screw over people close to him. I like him a little better."
And then immediately this ep is followed by Truth Seekers, where we get a glimpse into how embedded Blitzø's self loathing is. Those two eps were where I started liking Blitzø and decided I was going to watch the whole show. And now it's gone so far into chara ter development that I'm not getting out of that hole.
Stolas may be my favorite, but traumatized action hero lizard dad also has chisled out such a big chunk in my heart. He is a mess, but I love him.
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At the beginning I didn't like Blitz. Like, when I first started the series. But as with time (and as I found out just how damn much I kin him, sadly), I began to really like him. And while I knew my fondness of him was growing, I don't know why it took me a Helluva goat short to have this specific-yet-weirdly-hard-to-describe lowkey feel of "Damn, I just like Blitz more and more", but here I am.
Anyway, here is Blitz with a goat.
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He's too pure for a professional murderer.
Also, also...
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All hail the IMP VIP goat.
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shiurkoma · 5 months ago
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Take: chaotic evil Yehonatan, in which he knew David is meant to replace him and his father from the very start.
TLDR: Yehonatan is as, if not more likely to be the abuser in their relationship because it is plain unfair to overlook how humongous their power gap is, and he is abused enough to be at least a little unhinged in his noggins.
Warning: dead dove do not eat. Im going to entertain an idea where Yehonatan is definitely not a good person. If you have a problem with that, or have issue reading fictional underage abuse and emotional manipulation, please stop reading. Finally, nothing about this is meant to be serious interpretation of the original text, it's all plain headcanoning for fanfiction.
(For the record, i seriously do not consider David (even close to being) a morally good individual in any possible sense of the word. It doesn't make any of this ok tho)
Some fanfics i've seen paint the davinatan ship as a manipulative one, with david being the seducter that manipulates Yehonatan into simping for him, only to discard him after David achieved his goals. Even outside of fanfictions, i know of people who view Yehonatan as a tragic victim. While i appreciate David's more malicious side being acknowledged, and agree with it more than depicting them simply and benignly loving eachother(tho i appreciate that too), I can't help but think how both protrayal down plays just how utterly creepy yehonatan's part in the relationship is.
Like, Yehonatan, a middle aged man with wives and kids, went ahead and basically stripped in front of a teen the first night they met then gave him some really personal and valuable gifts. If thats not a red flag i don't know what is.
Yehonatan is someone you do not want to cross, maybe even more so than Saul.
It is easy to forget that, holding the title of eldest son and legal heir to the throne comes with immense pressure, responsibility and danger, and dealing with all that takes more than just a thick backbone. With a deranged father as king, people around him are constantly plotting to take the throne for themselves. All bets are off in the war for the throne, even if Yehonatan doesn't actually want to be king, his competitors (which includes but not limited to his entire family) wouldn't rest until he is dead. He isn't in a position where he can just back off: it isn't unheard of that princes and kings renounce their positions, retire, and end up getting assassinated or executed anyway. Because king or not, they are still legitimate heirs to the throne and therefore a potential threat.
Basically, Yehonatan lives in a situation where he simply cannot afford to show weakness or hesitation, not to his subordinates, not to his brothers, not to his father, not to anyone. What doesn't kill you makes you dangerous, and Yehonatan is deadly in that sense.
(But its not to say all that didn't take a toll on his mental wellbeing. Yehonatan has no business being mentally ok. He watched his father ascend to the throne, watched as Saul sunk further towards insanity, and had to endure his often psychotic abuse for years. I don't believe one bit that he isn't depressed and at least a little messed up, especially in a time where mental illnesses aren't even acknowledged yet.)
To sum it up, as a weathered crown prince, Yehonatan would logically be a person who is reasonably paranoid, moderately ruthless, extremely strong willed and more than competently intuitive about the motives and intentions of people around him.
David on the other hand (at the start of their relationship anyway) had no prior experience mingling with politics, no ties in the palace, was never regarded with importance by his father or brothers (meaning he had zero exposure and no one ever invested in him), young and inexperienced (meaning vulnerable to manipulation), stands no chance against Yehonatan if he were to play mind games on him.
David could pull an Esther on Yehonatan. But keep in mind Esther and a lot of other femme fatal spies in history had ties that helped pull strings from the outside, they are often not the master mind either. David had himself, and practically nothing else.
This is why Yehonatan helping him matters so much. Useing weak willed and easily manipulated individuals only works for you if you are already a powerful dictator. If you have absolutely nothing you need powerful allys.
The most straightforward option for dark Yehonatan is just to kick the creep element up ten notchs. David tries to seduce Yehonatan, then immediately realises he bit off more than he could chew: he is just too possessive to be controlled. Yehonatan in this scenario probably somewhat resembles that purple creep from Tokyo ghoul, entertaining while the shock value lasts, but after that it gets pretty shallow. I hate this approach tbh.
Or, him seeing David that day was Yehonatan's last straw(what i doodled basically). He stops giving a sh*t about everything, and thought since he is so "in love" he might as well groom and sodomize David. Its a petty way of getting back at God for making him fall for the boy, and for making his life miserable in general.
He uses his charms and presents himself as a saintly figure to appeal to David's more religious side, then proceeds to not only make sure that David is emotionally dependent on him(i won't elaborate how but its easier than you think), but also plans to make it so that if he dies it will f*ck David in the head. He enjoys this, because for once in his life he feels a "real" sense of control, albeit a twisted and perverted one.
(Maybe he will feel shame and regret eventually, but thats another talk for another day.)
I'll borrow my friend's comment to sum up the take: "a broken abused individual perpetuating a cycle of abuse to an ambitions sociopathic twink, each making the other worse just through being together." Another reason i prefer this version of dark Yehonatan is cuz it restores some agency Yehonatan desperate lacks.
Strayed quite far from his canon image with my shameless slandering but yeah that's about it. For now. Might explore David's pov in this later.
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withthewindinherfootsteps · 4 months ago
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Both WWX and LWJ are highly ideal characters, so there wouldn’t be too much dispute on their moral standing. They’re perfect as the protagonists.  - MXTX's end notes (chapter 113.5), EXR translation
I'm not one to say word of the author is word of god – I definitely lean more towards Death of the Author in that regard. But an important part of that is that you look at what happens in the novel – and, from WWX's actions in the novel, it's pretty clear that this is supposed to be the case. Even if you don't agree with that statement, there's no doubt that acting on his morals is something extremely important to him, and those morals lean heavily towards doing the "right thing" in his perception. That is not "neutral".
Examples of this: WWX was not killed for being the only person to do the right thing and defend the Wen remnants for people to say he's chaotic neutral. He didn't risk his life alongside LWJ to protect both innocents and people who participated in the first Siege, during the second. He didn't go to save Su She from the Waterborne Abyss (at no personal gain), defend Mianmian (at no personal gain), join LWJ in going wherever the chaos is post-canon when they night hunt (despite preferring more difficult, exiting ones – though of course, spending time with LWJ plays a very large role in here too!), etc and do so many other things in the novel, for people to say he's chaotic neutral. He doesn't say this for no reason:
"But, let the self judge the right and the wrong, let others decide to praise or to blame, let gains and losses remain uncommented on." - Chapter 75, EXR
He says it because it's an important part of his philosophy (it fits with his actions, and, from a writing standpoint, would you include that with no indication of a lie otherwise?)! Because judging the right thing, and doing the right thing, is important to him! That's not chaotic neutral!
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"He does whatever he wants pretty consistently" well... yes? That is how decisions work? Morality isn't determined by whether you act independently or adhere to other rules – that's where chaotic and lawful come in, but not evil or good. If you do what you want to do, and what you want to do is help people, that's not neutral! It's good!
There's more to the tags, but I won't go into that right now since it's a different point. I would like to say that are multiple posts talking about how WWX doesn't just act disrespectfully/arrogantly for no reason (he knew he'd have to "keep his status in mind" if he wanted to run wild, he was hardly the only person being rowdy and breaking rules in Gusu yet nobody says the same about people like NHS or JC who did that too, post-SSC he was playing up these traits so nobody would look deeper into his reasons for things, ie not having his GC, etc. He enjoys running wild, yes, but it doesn't mean he does it mindlessly!), such as the one I just reblogged, because that's a point that needs adressing here as well. Please don't try to search up these tags and harrass anybody, as it only leads to harm – I just really, really disagree with this take. The WWX of MDZS is neither stupid nor chaotic neutral...
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lesbianphan · 8 months ago
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speaking of allignment charts: I truly think the phandom is chaotic good as a whole. Cause we can do amazing things like that bday livestream, we can get together and do things that are so kind like every year there's the phandom gives stuff and it's so awesome?? but at the same time we are chaotic little freaks, we will meme stuff to death, we will be SO ANNOYING and 'lol random xD' to this day. I think this is essence of being a Dan and Phil audience member that is impossible to replicate. It's us <3
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namusthetic · 2 years ago
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The Weird Relatives at the Family Reunion
Half the rumors at the dining table involve them, but they attend family reunions just to cause drama. Their alliance still stands, and gets stronger each gathering.
No.1 - The Chaotic
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Is made 70% out of anger issues and 30% out of spite
Does not care about people's opinions and judgement
Has no patience
Mom friend, scolds you first and then takes care of you anyway
Has their life organized, knows what they want
Only listens to a few selected people whom they trust
Devours sexists for breakfast
Their resistance to caffeine is the same as that of a 5-year-old to sugar
"Bold of you to assume I've reached my peak of dumbass"
Avoids physical touch
Their love language is food giving / cooking
A public danger when driving (and in general)
Eats cereals from the box
Falls completely silent when angry
Probably made a deal with the devil for clear skin
Hates the government with a passion
Listens to hard rock, metal and techno, not necessarily in this order
Helps children with mischievous plans
Ready to throw hands and chew people out if someone is getting bullied
Slapstick humor
Plots new, fun ways of causing mayhem
Catchphrase: "Improvise, attack, overcome."
Playlist:
Don't Stop Me Now by Queen
Istanbul (Not Constantinople) by They Might Be Giants
all the good girls go to hell by Billie Eilish
Cigarette Ahegao by Penelope Scott
LA ESPADA by Eternal Raijin
Scopin by Kordhell
Besos I by Bo Burnham
Supermassive Black Hole by Muse
My Ordinary Life by The Living Tombstone
Maneater by Nelly Furtado
spy? by WHOKILLEDXIX
Let's Groove by Earth, Wind & Fire
No.2 - The Neutral
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Always looks half asleep or annoyed or both
Sarcasm and dark humor
Done with everyone's shit
"save the bees, punch a racist"
comes off as kind and easy-going, but would watch the world burn and not bat an eye
Is inclined to tollerate you better if you offer them coffee or cookies or if you start talking about books
Will cover for you if they like you, tell on you if they don't, you'll never know which one it is until the last second
They'll sit down in a spot away from the family chaos to either ignore or judge everyone
Has a keen eye for body language and nonverbal communication
Bad at managing anxiety and stress
"binarism is for computers, do I look like a fuckin MacBook to you?"
Says they don't like kids but carries candy in their pockets for their nephews
Commitment and trust issues
Starts yelling when they get really mad
Their love languages are acts of service and quality time
Not easy to impress, unless you start the conversation quoting Shakespeare or Dante
Passive aggressive
Listens to literally anything except country music
Hates parents who don't take their children seriously, so they're always ready to lend a ear and give advice
Helps no. 1 plotting by giving technical details and suggestions
Catchphrase: "Oh, I haven't told them good morning simply because I don't think they deserve one"
Playlist:
These Times by Far Caspian
Treehouse by Alex G, Emily Yacina
Tired by beabadoobee
Summer Child by Conan Gray
Young by Vacations
Fourth of July by Sufjan Stevens
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now by The Smiths
The Adults Are Talking by The Strokes
O Children by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
Sex, Drugs, Etc. by Beach Weather
Bitter Taste by Billy Idol
Obstacles by Syd Matters
No.3 - The Lawful
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Sensitive, must protect
Love languages are words of affirmation and physical touch
Cannot cook for the life of them
Made of sunshine and rainbows
"Please, assume I have dignity"
Sweet but awkward
Wears sunglasses to hide the eye bags
Always rushing somewhere
Loves children
Takes things personally and thus gets hurt too often
Quotes cringy positivity lines
Hard working
Always brings something to eat
Is actually the most insecure about themselves and their body
No.1 and no.2 are ready to physically fight anyone who is mean to them
Cheers you up and has your back
Ready to forgive and forget, rarely blames people for stuff
Too willing to give second chances
Gives stern scoldings if they're mad
When something goes wrong they take it badly and get really sad
A cinnamon roll inside and outside
Knows how to play several instrument so they sing and play for children
Tries to keep no.1 and no.2 from achieving world domination
Catchphrase: "Even if the world is big, you're enough for it"
Playlist:
El Mismo Sol by Alvaro Soler
Brazil by Declan McKenna
OUR SUMMER by TXT
Baby I'm Yours by Arctic Monkeys
Hey Lover! by Wabie
Watermelon Sugar by Harry Styles
NIGHT DANCER by imase
HOME by BTS
Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) by Edison Lighthouse
Bossa No Sé by Cuco ft. Jean Carter
Swing Lynn by Harmless
Promise by Jimin
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empty-blog-for-lurking · 9 months ago
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in the time travel lance au, how much did lance tell the team/lotor? do they know hes from the future and that hes lance and how much things went to shit, or is he keeping the info from them(i mean you said hes doing that, but im curious as to how much hes actually letting them know)? also wait hold on. does the whole time travel situation mean that there are TWO lances running around now??
Pretty sure Lance tells them absolutely nothing. Just absolutely nothing. Fuck All. At best you can expect from him is vague riddles, very specific advice, and a 10-minute long call out session in Lotor's case where he drags him for every issue he ever had and after which he fucks off to do god knows what. And while Lance does try to keep his identity hidden, not to mention lets just say he is Off Putting enough to the point that the aliens do not connect him to any of the humans (except Kuron who recognized a movie reference).
And there are two Lances running around, though because of future!Lance, Shiro didnt reach Earth and instead he met Allura who got out from cryopod earlier
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angeryvoidchild · 1 year ago
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Vierna asking Astarion about being with Halsin. Retelling of the game scene and two idiots being sweet.
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'You... Don't ask for it, because we didn't... Do it for a while, don't you?' Astarion tried to hide how scared and worried he was. Vierna was the first person that didn't use him, and the thought of them looking at the others, because he couldn't satisfy their needs... Of loosing them... It was terrifying. Vierna widened their eyes in shock, as if they couldn't fanthom why he's asking this question.
'What? No! Gods damn me if I do! Astarion... My sweet little star... My love... I'm happy with you, sex or no sex. I'm perfectly happy with you as it is...' They picked his hand and softly kissed vampire's knuckles. Worry was written all over their face.
'You are perfect the way you are. You ARE enough. I don't need sex. That's not why I'm asking you if I can start a relationship with Halsin. Look at me, Astarion.' Vierna asked softly and smiled to the vampire.
'Then... Alright. Have fun,' he smiled. Vierna sighted. They felt like their lover just tried to please them.
'I won't. Not until you accept that YOU are my priority. I love you, Astarion. YOU are the most important person to me. I'm just... It's hard to explain... I love Halsin too. It's not about sex and if you want me to be just yours then I'll tell him that. Be selfish, my sweetest star. Because you are the one who I love the most. Let's talk about this later. When you take in everything I just told you.' Vierna kissed again knuckles of the stunned vampire.
That was... A lot. A lot a lot. A priority? He? And his lover won't be displeased if he tells them that he doesn't wants them to start a relationship with the druid? That felt... So strange. So safe. But something was bugging him. He... Liked Halsin too. At least he thought so. The druid was warm, wise and caring. And if it would turn out that vampire isn't comfortable with the arragement... Vierna told they would choose him. And he knew they were honest. They had to.
So when the drow sneaked intro his tent to cuddle during trance as usual, Astarion had the answer ready.
'You should go meet with Halsin. Have your fun! It was foolish of me to doubt you, with that golden heart of yours and all.' He exclaimed as the drow started to snuggle into his chest. Vierna scoffed at the 'heart of gold', but didn't aswered right away, enjoying the smell of vampire's perfume before smiling and saying:
'Then I'll give him answer tomorrow. Thank you, my star...'
'You are very welcome. But why not go now?'
'Because I don't want to leave your side, of course. Silly surfacer.'
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prazardous · 7 months ago
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growing up means watching everyone around you get into d&d and knowing its only a matter of time
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deva-arts · 10 months ago
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Where would you rank your OCs on the D&D alignment chart?
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Something like this!
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icecoldwilliams · 6 months ago
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|| Honestly fair warning, earning Nina's friendship or more is such a trip. Literally.
Some days you meet up and she barely talks, just shops on her phone, vibes w you in silence. Maybe invites you for drinks at a bar or to go shopping. Maybe a trip to a art museum, enjoy the high life together.
Others she's like "Want to take a helicopter out to this wreck of a cruise ship I sunk?" "Want to go street racing?" "Hey I know this great underground ring around here, want to go make some extra cash?"
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beliscary · 6 months ago
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there's a tower in belisaere called dolorous bastion
#g*rth n*x does things to make me specifically insane#me pulling up scherzo di notte in another tab#arghhh given the quality of his recent works I don't. want any more... but also. Wallmaker lore. blease#if I don't finish goldenhand it will continue to not be real and not hurt me#but I can try clariel again... for the world building.....#did you know bellis is part of the scientific name for a daisy#and sayre can be linked to carpenter#anyway listen. listen. lean in to Sam being a little too much like rogir for a kingdom that just returned from chaos#he's a little vain. a little reclusive. went to ancelstierre and came back... odd. deeply involved in magics no one understands#and he has no mentor. no guidance. just an unhelpful chaotic neutral cat. he's the last first & only wallmaker atm.#but he's just a moody artist ok. a total sweetheart just at turns manic and melancholic.#who is also capable of forging an executioner's blade that can imprison orannis the destroyer.#and. you know. a prince.#he should have a terrible complex about Being Like His Evil Uncle#in addition to his own shame at his perceived cowardice & failures. and his fear of Death#and his anxiety that he'll one day pour himself into the Making of something like the og wallmakers did#(and all this could. also swirl around Rogir's classique villainous queercoding. just saying.)#put a mentos in that bottle of diet coke and watch it go okay!!!#I'm sitting here shaking the narrative like If People Behaved Like People The Court Would Deeply Distrust Him#not his family obviously!!! but everyone else.#especially for facilitating a student exchange of ancelstierran soldier mages and also bringing in new citizens#who only treatied with him. not with the future queen.#and he looks and sort of behaves like his usurper murderer uncle. JUST SAYING.
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diamondkat · 1 day ago
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I have seen a lot of people claim that Alastor doesn't care about anyone. Regardless of what is shown in the series, they maintain the conviction that because he is an evil character he can't possibly love or care about anyone. However, I have always been a fan of characters whose evil is partly or at times wholly driven by love. Love makes them selfish, cruel people and they would actually have been better people if they had never experienced love. It is the same concept behind why I like shows with creepy, evil children. Showing the darkness in things usually taken for granted as being good.
Alastor's relationship with Roo in the AU is built on the love of a child for his mother. In his mind, there is his mother, Eve, and then there is the creature Roo whom he has to keep appeased in other to have access to his mother. Eve as the first to eat the fruit became the seal preventing evil from gaining complete control over Earth. It has driven a bit crazy over time as it attempts to completely take over her in the form of Roo. The children of Roo have over time helped to share the burden even if they have been getting distracted from their true duty by power. Alastor as the best conduit born into the children of Roo is also the best at playing the role of a seal. He has been trying to find a way to completely take over the role of the main seal and free Eve from the burden. There is little that he would not do for his mother, regardless of how evil.
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blujayonthewing · 3 months ago
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I'm really glad elyss came several years before melliwyk, because mel's alignment shift from chaotic neutral to chaotic good sometimes feels a little embarrassing in an 'I can't keep my own feelings to myself for the sake of committing to the bit' sort of way, but the counterpoint to that is that elyss, steadfastly true neutral, just simply Does Not Care about anyone other than her own loved ones or anything outside her own immediate interest no matter how much I sometimes wish she would
#she has a soft spot for children but that's the only real exception. other people's problems are none of her business!#she's not gonna look for your kidnapped husband or whatever unless the paladin wants to (he wants to. this is my loophole as a player lol)#whereas *I* wanna befriend and adopt every NPC and do quests and help people out of genuine desire to help#melliwyk is still more self-interested than not but at the end of the day she fundamentally really is a good person#she just lost track of it for awhile. being around people again has reminded her that she cares about people actually#she IS bothered by needless suffering. she IS smart enough to recognize when smart people handwave 'necessary sacrifices' to be cruel#she DOES oppose evil on principle rather than just because of how it directly affects her or her friends and family--#not just passively and in general but actively enough to want to do something about it herself#and I dunno it's nice. it's nice that it feels like that's not just me muddying the waters with my desires as a player--#but that it's just something *neither* of us realized when I started playing her but that was nonetheless always true#and honestly I also think it's nice that elyss is Like That but that I don't think there's anything wrong with her for it#she's not evil! she's not hurting anyone who didn't deserve it! she's literally just trying to mind her own business#she's not going to needlessly or carelessly hurt people just for her own gain like early campaign melliwyk would have#she's true neutral like a wild animal is true neutral and That's Fine#the ONE downside I suppose with mel is that 'NICE does not mean GOOD' is compelling to me#especially when your stereotypical chaotic neutral dnd character is an edgelord asshole#but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe if her field of study had more opportunities for human experimentation lmao#melliwyk the experimental necromancer or behaviorist or summoner has a different relationship with ethics I have no doubt#melliwyk has READ studies with Dubious Ethics and gone 'I mean they couldn't have GOTTEN results like this otherwise'#really the biggest difference between Good Melliwyk and Neutral Melliwyk is opportunity for temptation. which is also compelling#my OCs#melliwyk#elyss
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ervona · 1 month ago
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I wish more people used "true soul run" because that's what it is lmao... you're pretending to be a true soul but your character isn't necessarily evil or good. you're not necessarily good if you fight them either, you're self serving all around. it's so weird and like bg3 isn't a perfect game but it still deserves more than being flattened to this level...
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ridragon · 10 months ago
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i know alastor is probably going to very obviously end up doing something fucked up to someone we actually like and fuck someone over because duh but. I desperately want the secretly good guy/antihero but never would show or admit it type with him so bad.
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postalignments · 2 months ago
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howdy there pardner may i know what my alignment is,,, i am curious and i demand answrse!!!! (go ahead and look at my posts if u want more infoe by teh way)
Howdy :D I think you’re chaotic neutral!
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