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x-snickersnap-x · 2 months ago
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smokeybrand · 3 years ago
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The Cape and The Cowl
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A friend of mine posted a meme questioning who would win a fight between Doctor Doom and Batman. My gut reaction is to say it’s real bad for Bruce but, as i thought about it more and more, i kind of feel like its not so cut-and-dry. There is a lot of nuance that needs to be considered between the two characters rather than just a “smash the action figured together” scenario. Of course, there is the surface stuff like how would they interact generally? What would the catalyst be in order to incite said conflict? Why would Doom even see Bruce as a threat? If you think about it objectively, an all things are even, to Vic, Batman is just a crazy person losing his are on crime in a raggedy ass city. Victor von Doom is a the reagent of an entire country with a GDP that rivals some superpowers in the MCU. Like, the USA has diplomatic relations with a blip in Eastern Europe, because Doom has the military power to wreck he US in open aggression. Latveria will lose in a prolonged conflict, that’s just a question of resources, but that little country would absolutely inflict upon the US in a slow bleed. Imagine the War on Terror but with competent leadership and actual, discipline, military strategy. Why the f*ck would Doom care what the f*ck is going on out in Jersey? More than that. the similarities between the two characters is staggering.
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We all know the origin of Batman. We’ve seen that sh*t how many times now? It’s like getting a new Spider-Man joint and having to watch Uncle Ben die all over again. It’s trite at this point but so essential to the character, we need a refresher every time Bats shows up onscreen. That trauma informs everything he is, as it would if you watched your parents gunned down in cold blood as a child, and then laid with their still warm corpses for however long until the police came. What a lot of people don’t know is the origin of Doctor Doom. Being a villain, Doom rarely gets his motivations explored outside of some megalomaniac Dr. No type f*ckery. However, Victor von Doom is a person. He started out life as a happy kid and learned to be Doctor Doom, just like Bruce learned to be Batman. Doom is actually a refugee. True, Doom was born an aristocrat, but Latveria was overthrown when he was still young so he was never able to be raised in that level of opulence. His mom was also murdered before he was ten years old. Just like Bruce, Doom experienced a horrific truth that would color his world perspective for the rest of his life. Doom would eventually find his way to the US as he was brilliant. Like, unheard of intelligent and it would be his exposure to the US lifestyle, after years of conflict and struggle, which would make him realize how easy life could be if someone just did what was necessary. And then Reed happened.
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Reed Richards was, is, a fulcrum in Vic’s life. They have a relationship similar to Batman an Superman but the opposite. Whereas Batman values Clark’s perspective because it helps him keep perspective, Vic finds Reed to be absurd. He sees Reed for who e is and doesn’t understand why no one else can. Reed Richards is a reckless, excitable, short-sighted, glory-hog. He is. If you read the character with any semblance of realism, you’d see that. Ho many times has Sue comments on how she and the rest of his family, take a backseat to science? How many times has Reed, himself, sacrificed a relationship or to, in service to the solution of an equation? Doom saw all of that in college. Reed represents the structural issues of the world and it frustrates Vic to no end. In some continuities, the genesis of Vic going full Doom rest on an accident Reed commits because of that shortsightedness. It goes a long way to checking Reeds ego and he does become a better person for it, but it was at the cost of scarring Vic for life, both physically and mentally. Yet another example of the system, ruining Doom’s life.
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Bruce, after his trauma, has kept a strong support system. First and foremost, since day one, he had Alfred. Doom had no one. Bruce then built a family, adopting all of the children and surrounding himself with love. Doom’s one true love died and was dragged down to hell. We know this because he punches out Mephisto whenever he can. Also, his mom is down there, too. Bruce eventually met Diana and Kal, becoming fast friends and life long confidants. Outside of Catwoman, I think Diana makes for the perfect romantic partner of Bruce and that is shown in several continuities. Reed just reinforced Doom’s disgust with the machinations of the world, eventually further degrading Doom’s tenuous hold of his ability to trust in others, by psychically maiming him. The negative impact Reed had on Doom’s life is f*cking profound, man. I’m not saying Doom should have taken it as far as he did, but it’s hard to argue against trying to kill a dude who had ruined years of your work, destroyed you reputation, and physically maimed you forever. That doesn’t seem wholly outrageous to me. I think it’s called justifiable homicide? The only reason Doom stopped trying to murder Reed is because Valeria was born. Valeria became the first person Doom felt real affection for, since the death of his wife. I think Morgan le Fay could be another, but that might have just been a time-space booty call. Valeria Richards and her relationship with he Uncle Doom, is what gave Vic the strength to be better. Bruce had that love his entire life, even immediately after his darkest day. Doom went decades without it.
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Up until Valeria was born, all Doom had was his time spent as a destitute street rat, struggling to survive, to inform him about life and the world at large. That brazen cruelty for sure emotionally crippled him in a lot of ways, I'm not even going to start to defend his arrogance or superiority complex, but trauma does that. That's why i think Bats would eventually come around. They've both seen the absolute worst of the world and, in a lot of ways, go about righting those wrongs in the same way. If you pay attention, and the writer is worth their salt, you'd see that Latveria is an autocratic socialist paradise. Latverians are among the most literate, healthy, and happy people in the 616. Jobs are plentiful and crime is almost non-existent. Mans even cured cancer, which he made available to the world, if those people choose to make the trip to Latveria for treatment. The world of 616, at large, likes to paint Vic as this evil despot but, if you interview a laymen of Latveria, they’ll sing his praises. Most people forget that, before Doom returned for his birthright, Latveria was a whole ass occupied state. Think the relationship between Israel and Palestine. Latveria was basically falling into doorknobs for Symkaria and pretending that they weren’t in an abusive relationship. Doom showed up and changed all that. It was a bloody f*cking conflict, for sure, and i am certain Vic committed war crimes, but the end result was a free Latveria with a strong international presence. Doom is a hero to those people but a villain to other nations because of how he rose to power and, more importantly, how independent he made hi country from the world system. Doom did what was necessary to free his people, a march too far for Bruce and that’s why Gotham is the way that it is.
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People who don’t know the character like to paint Vic as ego-maniacal villain, and that was valid when comics were just "hero smash bad guy", but we've grown beyond that. Every pop culture interpretation of Doom, outside of the comics, has him as this stoic, arrogant, asshole, dictator bu that’s just not an accurate portrayal of how Doom is in a modern capacity. Vic is definitely an autocrat but he’s no dictator. He can be cruel at times to specific individuals but he is generally benevolent to his people. He doesn’t portray himself as a strongman but he does let it be known he’ll nuke anyone or anything if it means furthering his overall goals which, currently, is the safety and security of Latveria. His country isn’t a police state and his people are free to do as they please but their is a line, just like everywhere else in the world. Doom just has a shorter one and enforces that with extreme prejudice. I’m not going to sit here and say everything is great in Latveria, it’s definitely not, but it ain’t so hot in 616 America either. How many Civil Wars have they had? What about that whole  tidbit with Hydra Cap? There is nuance and gray nowadays, areas that both Bats and Doom comfortably call home. Batman is, objectively, not a pure hero. He is, at best, a chivalric anti-hero and similarly, Doom is more of an anti-villain than the mustache twirling, boogeyman, mastermind pop media portrays him to be. Batman and Doom are basically the same person, with the same motivations, only Doom is willing to go much, much, further than Bruce; A difference in method you an attribute to their respective upbringings.
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If Doom had the same support system as Bruce, he’d create miracles. We’ve seen glimpses of that throughout the years. Dooms last run culminated with him essentially obliterating an entire universe where he had the support necessary to build a proper utopia. Our Doom couldn’t fathom the choices made by this variant Doom because of how broken he is. If Bruce was alone in his formative years like Victor, he’d commit atrocities. We’ve seen glimpses of that over they years, too. There are various narratives that explore just such a tragic turn of events, explored in the Death Metal series of books. Dawnbreaker immediately comes to mind. Bruce and victor are the same side of the same coins. It's literally a crap shoot as to which side of the alignment chart either leans. And as if to inform my point further, we just recently had Joker War. That book went a long way to exposing the absolute necessity of raw force, in order to properly “save”Gotham. Joker was able to completely dismantle that entire city by attacking the machinery put in lace to make it run. He effectively proved that The Batman was part of the problem and would never be the solution because Bruce doesn’t go far enough. He puts out fires but never address the sparks which start those blazes. He doesn’t go far enough. He never will. His code won’t allow him to. But Doom can. Doom did. Honestly, if you really want to keep it real, what is Bruce's endgame? What does a healthy Gotham City look like? It looks a lot like f*cking Latveria.
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So to answer this question outright, i don’t think they even fight. The way this hypothetical was set up had three rounds: the first being a standard donnybrook, the second being prep time, and the last being god mode. To be perfectly honest with you, it wouldn't make it past the first round. If i had to say, with pedestrian or normie level understanding of he characters, Doom sweeps all categories. For Round one, Doom’s armor trumps all of Batman’s gadgets. For Round Two, Doom has more resources at his fingertips for prep. For Round The God Emperor Doom exists. He created several realities and killed a few Beyonders. Batman sat in a chair which gave him access to all the wisdom in the multiverse, and realized there were three Jokers. Doom all the way. My informed opinion as someone who adores both these character more than most would have me think there wouldn’t even be a conflict to begin with. I think they’d investigate the inciting catalyst, meet in person with intent to attack if necessary, size each other up until one of them made the proposal to just talk, they'd converse, and the fight would end with both of them walking away from each other with begrudging respect. Doom would admire Bruce's will and Bruce would understand the necessity of Doom's position in the world because, if you can make it make sense, Bruce will usually agree. Batman, for all of his shortcomings, is not naive to the world. He’s seen the same darkness as Doom. Doom, for all of his pompous arrogance, understands the struggle to maintain faith in those around you, even if that noble aspiration is misplaced. Bruce is one bad day away from Doom and Doom is a decades worth of days from being Bruce. They mirror each other and i think they’d see that, taking each other as cautionary tales before becoming collaborators. I don’t see them ever really becoming friends but i don't think they’d ever be true enemies.
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summerspn · 5 years ago
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Gilmore Girls
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Lorelai Gilmore
Witty, carefree, hardworking, intelligent, & fun. Lorelai is loveable in many ways but she can also be irresponsible, very selfish & a commitment-phobe.
Lorelai hasn’t changed at all over the years. The lack of evolution is actually disappointing.
In the first few seasons I found her charming but later I found her selfish & annoying. I think that’s because she never takes responsibility for her actions & everyone always loves her. Sometimes it reaches almost Mary Sue or cult-like levels. She can do no wrong in the eyes of almost every single character except her parents...which is probably why she gets annoyed with them. She resents the fact they don’t worship her the way the town does.
Even Luke gets annoyed at her a lot but then gives in, smiles & then looks like he’s over it. He’s one of the few people to call her out on her ridiculous or selfish behaviour but then let’s it go.
She always gets her own way. He even said in Year in the Life that he’ll never leave no matter how bad she treats him....Was that supposed to be romantic? It’s actually sad, like an abused spouse sticking it out. Though I think it was likely just the word choice used. I get that Amy Sherman Palladino was trying to showcase Luke’s loyalty but there were better ways...
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Through the entire series Lorelai has a love for gimmickry & silly rants. Sometimes it was cute & other times I just wanted to tell her to “Stop interrupting people!”. By the end of the series I wanted to tell her to shut up- mainly because her little ‘amusing’ rants were ill timed & often made her sound like an idiot.
Lorelai grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth & she resented her parents for that. Once she became pregnant at sixteen she didn’t make any effort to plan for her (and baby Rory’s) future. Yet we see in the flashbacks that she was still annoyed at her parents. They were scrambling to try to make the best of the situation & she was annoyed with them for it.
Lorelai was ungrateful then...ungrateful when they arranged for a nanny to help after she gave birth...and ungrateful for everything afterwards.
There’s a lot of questionable behaviour that Lorelai does. Some can be attributed to the fact she was a teenager at the time - like dismissing Christopher’s marriage proposal. She loved him but said no. Not a mistake exactly but she still pushed him away - which I think was a bad move. She should have talked to him about finding a way to keep him involved in Rory’s life.
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Christopher was pushed away & being immature he felt they were better off and he kept his distance. What is questionable is that never, in all the years growing up did Lorelai tell him to grow some balls, man up & see his daughter more. She would have been broke & should have asked for some money to help with daycare etc.
The only reason Lorelai didn’t ask for money or more involvement was pride, pure & simple. She wanted to say she did it all ‘alone’, to feel superior to how her parents did things.
Later, even when Christopher does start to take more responsibility as a father, she says things that sounded very passive aggressive. Like she didn’t want him to have a better relationship with Rory. So it’s a catch 22, a no win situation where there was really was no way for Christopher to fix things.
They say early on that Christopher did weekly phone calls & the occasional visit. Not great but not terrible either. But Lorelai acts like he is a bad father & yet still constantly flirts with him. What is that?!
It’s a complete mind fuck.
That’s probably a big reason I started to like Christopher by the end. He always did as Lorelai wanted, respecting her wishes while trying to have a relationship with his daughter & do his own thing. All contradictory but so is how Lorelai treated him. She basically jerked him around.
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You shouldn’t do that regarding your child’s father. Be clear & set boundaries... that’s important but she did the opposite all the time & there was zero evolution with that over the years.
Even later, when Christopher made more effort to see Rory, and when they had a good relationship, Lorelai chose to keep a very big life decision from him. Rory didn’t tell him she dropped out of school because she was being selfish right? Well as a co-parent, that then fell to Lorelai. She should have called Christopher and told him their daughter dropped out of college & is acting out of character.
Even if he couldn’t change her mind, he should have known. But who knows, maybe she would have listened? Sometimes it’s easier to listen to people you’re not talking to every day (like how Jess was able to talk some sense into her).
But Lorelai deliberately kept quiet about Rory’s dropping out of school & her arrest. Why keep it from him? He would have been worried.
The only thing I can think of is the Lorelai somehow thought it didn’t matter to him, which just shows she wasn’t paying attention & was being selfish.
When Christopher happily agrees to take over paying for Yale, both Rory & Lorelai keep it from Emily & Richard. It’s avoiding an awkward conversation but instead the elder Gilmores end up being embarrassed by having to deal with the financial mix up, thinking the school had made a mistake.
So Emily & Richard were embarrassed & probably had a very stressful & panicked reaction to make sure the tuition was covered. Richard said he had yelled at a woman out of desperation to make sure everything was settled. I personally would have been freaked if someone said school was paid for but wasn’t. I’d want to know there wouldn’t be any issues!
So think about it, the woman dealing with that had a really bad day because of it.
So Lorelai (whose job it was to tell her parents), was selfish again and it resulted in a lot of stress for others because she was avoiding telling her parents about the tuition.
Lorelai isn’t evil and sometimes she is a good partner. Like when Luke for some reason didn’t tell her about April for two months. She was upset but sticks by him.
She adjusts & tries to deal. It was refreshing to see. Her & Luke have chemistry & the banter is good but even by the end of the series they still don’t communicate very well. She still acts like he should be her servant a lot of time because she’s pretty bossy.
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In Year in the Life they have zero communication skills & it’s pretty sad considering they’ve been together for 10 years. But again everything is always about her. Lorelai keeping therapy from him, wanting to meet with Paris about IVF when Luke clearly is just...stunned. It’s just baffling.
During her marriage & rough patches with Christopher Lorelai insists she loves him. I think she loved him as a teenager & as an adult loves the idea of him but she always strung him along which is not exactly a loving trait. So I actually liked when she married Christopher I just thought it should have included Rory & her parents (even if spontaneous).
What made me upset is that one minute she’s telling Christopher she loves him then she’s taking to Luke again. Christopher - her HUSBAND- tells her he’s not comfortable with the relationship & she completely ignores his concerns.
When he suggested they buy a bigger house she was adamant they stay in her house (even though it was going to be too small for them, Gigi, Paul Anka & Rory when she visits). Christopher accommodates quickly....then sees more interaction between her & Luke & gets jealous.
Of course he does. He acts like a jerk but so does Luke & so does Lorelai. But we’re supposed to hate Christopher for that? Um, no.
Then Lorelai writes that personal reference letter about Luke for the custody battle & Christopher finds it. She kept it from him. Hearing the letter & seeing his reaction - to me - sounded very much like it was saying Luke was Rory’s father not Christopher. I can understand the hurt there.
Seriously, all Lorelai would have to do was tell Christopher she feels she owes it to Luke to write the letter. Be honest with him & it would have been a non-issue. But by hiding it like a 12 yr old, it gave the wrong message, that she had feelings for Luke still. And Christopher may be immature but he wasn’t an idiot.
The only really stupid thing he did, was pull away for those few days. I think Lorelai said it was less than a week. It was dumb & a dick move...but I also get it. That would be painful. You change your entire life, commit to the person you were in love with for 20 yrs, make a life with them & your child, only to see proof she wasn’t even trying to commit to you? That’s rough. Not an excuse but I get the anger there.
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However, hearing the messages that Lorelai left him, it still sounds pretty weak like she wasn’t sure what she wanted. She didn’t put her husband first, she never offered to give up her ‘friendship’ with Luke. Tv shows always act like it would be unhealthy to give up an ex for their current partner. But no, giving up an ex is part of the commitment process...if it’ll make your spouse happy & prove your love, do it.
It shouldn’t be a question. Besides at that point Lorelai was barely taking to Luke anyways. But she didn’t want that & again put herself first. And many of her phone messages to Christopher were dancing around things.
She could have at that point, agreed to move to a new town together - which also would have proved her commitment & made him happy. She could have said ‘I love you & miss you but screw you for leaving me!’ It took her awhile before she finally said it & as soon as she did he came to his senses....but then saw Luke there, again.
And right after Lorelai wanted a divorce. No counselling, no talk of what boundaries they should have regarding Luke. Nothing. Lorelai just said it is what it is...being selfish. And Christopher just backs off like a scared & heartbroken boy.
What annoyed the crap out of me about the marriage was Lorelai still made all the decisions. She basically wanted Christopher as a roommate only. No thought about what a marriage should be or what they wanted from the marriage.
That, and the fact Emily was offering her advice but Lorelai never took it. She never once asked her mom for help...and Emily liked Christopher so she would’ve helped in any way she could. Lorelai knew this but didn’t even try.
Then once the marriage is over, before the big celebration party, Lorelai waits to tell her parents. Her mother spent money on a brilliant party...giving no thought to how that would make her mother look or feel. Wedding-party talk with her mom was important to Emily because she missed her only daughter’s wedding but Lorelai didn’t care.
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Then there are instances where Lorelai is just being immature & makes things tough for her parents as an adult. She constantly whines about Friday night dinners, rarely told her parents she loved them or cared for them. Her love was conditional.
When her dad needed his meds her mom was clearly implying that she needed someone to pick them up.
Lorelai was toying with her, playing games about who can pick them up. Playing around when Emily was stressed. I don’t know about you but if I see my mom stressed out I want to help. She could have just said ‘I’ll pick it up’ though she does later, after jerking her around first.
There are times we clearly see Emily trying to make Lorelai feel better. When they were bonding over taxes, Emily tells her it’s not horrible & that she’ll be okay. It’s a complicated relationship so Emily later thanks her for helping but is also upset & grieving the thought of not having Christopher as a son-in-law anymore. So Emily points out how much money was thrown away on the party, so what? Lorelai acted like her mother was bad for doing that but wouldn’t you be upset if you spent tens of thousands of dollars for nothing? I would!
Lorelai was ungrateful & spoiled.
As much as some people hate season 7 I think there are some really good moments in the series. Especially showing Lorelai’s character. At one point T.J. calls her too much drama...and he’s right! When Rory disrespects people Lorelai never calls her out on it. She jerks both Christopher & Luke around.
An episode near the end of the series, Rory , Lorelai & Emily go to the wedding of the old owner of the Independence Inn, Maya. The entire episode Lorelai is completely oblivious to how her mom feels. When Rory spells it out for her Lorelai tried to be gentle & reassure her mom she didn’t lose her. It was nice to see.
But the next episode it was like Lorelai went right back to treating her poorly so Emily keeps her at arms length.
In season 7 though we see that Lorelai accepted Logan which was a big step. She also agreed to keep seeing her parents after Rory graduates, which is big. So there were a few things that weren’t bad & were improvements but at the same time, with all her whiny & passive aggressive behaviour, I wouldn’t say she evolved at all.
I did find it strange the entire town wanted to go to Rory’s graduation from Yale. Was this supposed to be funny?? Personally I thought it was dumb. Lorelai should have at that point told them to back off. A wasted opportunity. It could have shown some evolution regarding the town’s unhealthy idol worship of both Lorelai & Rory. But nope it was just Lorelai dancing around it, not wanting to set boundaries again.
I think Lorelai is very selfish as you can tell. She’s always jerking people- mainly her love interests- around. Max, Luke, Christopher, even that guy Alex (she dated briefly) she was back & forth on.
When she gave birth to Rory she made some mistakes. That’s understandable as is how immature & selfish she was. However, by the start of the series she never evolved. Ever.
Even when she goes back to school & gets her business degree - which is big life accomplishment...she still acts unprofessional on the phone at work & with vendors. Sure she had some funny conversations and all but she’s 32 in season one. Then she acts exactly the same in season 7 - at 39...both professionally & personally. Then Year in the Life was supposed to be 10 years later so she’s 49.
She & Luke still didn’t get married. No other kids, zero communication. Ugh I really wished the time jump could have been used better. All it would have taken were a few family photos & like ONE scene where Luke & Lorelai are in bed reading to their 3 yr old twins or something. Could have been cute!
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It also would have shown Lorelai’s growth by giving up the house to get a bigger one for everyone (it would have proven her commitment to Luke & the family too). But what can one expect from the train wreck that is Year in the Life?
I’m a big fan of seeing characters grow & evolve. So it annoys me when I see a fun character like Lorelai, stuck as a selfish spoiled brat. I may have liked her more if she ended up friends with her mom or being more strict with Rory...something. Wasted opportunities with her.
To put it plainly I was so-so about Lorelai when I was younger but now as an adult I don’t like her. But she did have some great lines!
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The actress who plays her, Lauren Graham is perfect though! Just amazing. Not sure how she could have remembered all those lines, talk a mile a minute & make it feel like her emotions are genuine. Takes real talent!
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ngame989 · 6 years ago
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SVTFOE 4A Prediction/Analysis Master Post
So we just had the first two episodes come out, and overall I enjoyed them. There’s been a lot of mixed reactions to the details, from myself included, so let’s dive in a bit. Apologies for when this becomes a giant wall of text in the back half, I'm not digging through promos for images.
Butterfly Follies
In the first episode, 98% of it is focused on Star feeling like shit because Moon is missing and nothing she does to try and find her works, and other people keep telling her she is screwing it up. Yeah, many of us thought this theme of “Star screwing up” would extend a bit more concretely to stuff with Marco and Tom, and it was present but only a tiny bit as a reminder. Her interaction with Tom was basically just a reminder that the situation from after Booth Buddies hadn’t budged - Star still was barely paying attention to him, Tom was still not really a companion to her at all, it just isn’t working, but they haven’t talked about it yet.
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Tomstar has always had the candy coating of a romantic relationship (nicknames, handholding, occasional smooching, gossip and drama, etc) with virtually nothing underneath. We see this over and over - Demoncism has a genuine emotional connection between them in that moment, but once their relationship starts up again, it takes until Is Another Mystery for even a hint of true, genuine support between them, and it still doesn’t extend to either of them considering the other as a life companion at all. Most of it is going through the motions for both of them. When everyone’s lives were on the line, Tom stepped up, but this doesn’t immediately make him Marco 2 - the issues that existed before, the lack of commitment and drive between them (still candy-coated by nicknames and whatnot) is as present as ever, and arguably more so, now that Star has the events of the end of S3 dwelling somewhere in the recesses of her mind. Plus we get a moment of Tom checking in with Marco about Star’s comment, showing once again that Marco is the one Tom actually turns to for genuine support.
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Contrast that with Starco in these episodes. Yes, it’s not magically perfect, there’s still lots of stuff to resolve and many people (myself included) have felt that it was a bit “off” (more on that soon). But there’s still a genuine sense of progression, where Marco is comfortable being close with Star again, being emotional support, even if he doesn’t always know how to help.
As predicted, Eclipsa’s style of ruling has mostly been “make disliking monsters entirely illegal because that’s Equality™” and it’s not working out so well for true social change. I expect this to be a major plot point moving forward.
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Honestly, I dunno what all to make of the details of Glossy’s lines here. Considering the situation with Toffee was pretty explicitly Glossaryck’s intentional method of teaching Star how to do things her own way, this definitely isn’t literal. Maybe he’s playing 4D chess, and Star questioning whether Glossaryck was misleading her is all part of how he leads her. There’s a... nonzero chance, I suppose, that there is some more direct connection here and trying to fix past mistakes (since time travel is brought up very shortly) but I’d be incredibly shocked and largely appalled if that’s where things actually head.
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(Skipping around on photos a bit here to just get the point across)
So let’s talk about this for a moment, shall we? I’ve seen a lot of talk about this photo and how it’s really sketchy that Star apparently knew it was from the future the whole time, given its past importance in Starcrushed. Granted, we don’t know exactly how it’s going to pay off yet, but I’ll take a strong educated guess - it’s basically a gag because the writers thought it would be fun. A relevant gag and kind of an asspull, yes, but still just a gag. Yes, the photo is now factually from the future and will be relevant again in that capacity, but I’m entirely convinced that the point of it wasn’t to intentionally retcon something about Starcrushed or anything like that - a meaningful photo of Star and Marco was used in Season 2 to generically remind her of their “good times” and their relationship as a whole, and that same photo was used here as a promise of happiness to come, and the primary purpose of the photo in each case is how it was written for that case.
I know it’s not a satisfying explanation, but it is entirely consistent with this show to have details occur that are largely arbitrary and inconsistent, and there’s a consistency to that inconsistency. Adult Marco is another example, Janna implying Kelly maybe had feelings for Marco in Stump Day is another, any time Star yeeted a high school student into some pit of horrors is another. All of these are situations where, if you examine them thoroughly as a whole and consider all the possible implications, they get kind of sketchy really fast. Yes, it is frustrating at times, but I think you just have to roll with it - Marco has memories of a 30 year old when the boarders want to make a cool reference before Marco does a bunch of fancy weapon tricks, but it never affects his normal existence unless it’s needed for a joke/reference. Janna says something that implies complicated romance drama incoming when the boarders want girly banter to accompany dudes fighting, but it doesn’t go anywhere beyond that. Star has a body count on Earth but she’s not a wanted criminal, probably. The consistency here is that if the show kind of glosses over some sort of possible implication and plays it off for a gag, then that’s what you should take it as.
Again, I don’t know exactly how this will pay itself off, but I have an incredibly strong suspicion that the answer to “what were the boarders thinking when they did this??? It screws up a core moment in Starcrushed!!!” is that they weren’t thinking about that. COULD they actually do something more in-depth with the time travel aspect? I guess, but “throwing organic core moments of character/relationship growth under the bus for the sake of wacky over-the-top plot” sounds like the opposite of this show. I’ll cover more about how I think this might actually work later.
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A lot of people said Star and Marco felt like acquaintances this episode, and not best friends. I understand where they’re coming from - there weren’t all kinds of hugs and affection flying around, their talks were awkward. But this honestly makes a lot of sense for where we’re at now. We’re completely over the hump where they they're hesitant to even think of themselves as best buddies, where they’re struggling with their feelings just to spend time with the other. Marco is back to making all attempts to be her close friend and companion and support, Star is comfortable around him... but, there’s still some lingering “OK we moved forward from here, what now?” We saw in Divide that a simple hug between them brought out strong feelings for both of them. I think a lot of the awkwardness remaining could be attributed to the strong sour mood of the situation overall, but part of it could also be a subconscious “OK, Marco confessing his feelings made things better, and we’re OK being close, but...” lingering, waiting to be addressed. And given pancake and cereal clips, it will be soon.
Escape from the Pie Folk
I have less to say about this episode, it was fairly straightforward, honestly. It was 22 minutes of adventure and fights while trying to find and steal away Moon - lot of really fun and well-executed humor, it definitely was a strong showing for pretty much all the parts of the show besides “focus on the relationship growth of Star and Marco”.
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More Marco trying to be constantly supportive, but still maybe having a bit of lingering tension in the how.
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And sweet family moments.
Overall, a very isolated situation, honestly. The actions and interactions of the characters were put in a very specific, very focused situation where “finding Moon” overrode anything else, and didn’t allow for much other special elements to shine through. I liked the episodes, but some part of me was disappointed that most developments besides Moon were put on pause for the premiere. Still, resolving this in its entirety straight away sets up for some pretty strong coverage of the rest...
INTERMISSION
Let’s take a moment to talk about compartmentalization and the rules of TV pacing. I love Star vs the Forces of Evil, and I’m sure many of you do, even if its infuriating and painful at times. A lot of times. But I definitely think the show is special and does things differently than many others, to an extent. And that extent is key - I like to think of it as content vs structure. Content-wise, it is rather different from what you might expect (especially with character/relationship development). Characters come first, always, and there isn’t a sense of outside drama pushing characters around like ragdolls, changing their relationships and emotions in ways that they aren’t already naturally primed to at that moment. Romance isn’t handled as a drama-fest love triangle, with Star and Jackie or Tom and Marco directly vying for the affection of their love interest, nor do those love triangles ever damage the development of the main dynamic, Starco. Basically every shift in Star and Marco’s relationship, the ebbs and flows of it, can be entirely explained by just the two of them. Yes, seeing the other be romantic with someone else was a partial catalyst to individual moments of growth, but by and large Star and Marco themselves have been their own biggest obstacles, their own insecurities and missteps guiding the path of Starco 1000x more than Jarco or Tomstar or plot.
However, this doesn’t mean the show is magically free of the confines of episodic story pacing, and that’s where people often find faults in it. Many, including myself, went into the premiere thinking/hoping that it would include some relationship payoff, or skip some steps and just have Tom and Star break it off right away. And while anyone is free to disagree with the general concept of the premiere being entirely focused on Moon and plot setup, it’s completely logical for the show to take its development in concrete, compartmentalized chunks. An episode dedicating itself to a theme, to a concrete piece of plot, is likely going to focus on that. And this can be nuanced - I don’t think it was wrong of people to think that Follies could have had a theme of “Star confronted with her screwups” in a broader way that included multiple aspects of that, but it doubled down on Moon and it’s totally understandable that she didn’t take time during her hunt to figure out her feelings, etc. Still, it included reminders of the current situation, and we’ll see those pay off very soon. It’s not so reasonable to expect the show to bend over backwards to steamroll through Starco development right away, but it’s also unreasonable to expect no chunks of development at all, or for them to stop randomly. 
More specifically, the way the episodic structure handles these chunks is to follow up underlying buildup with inevitable realizations. It’s very, very rare for an episode that confronts a character with a specific question (e.g. “How do I feel about my Earth life” - Marco in Sophomore Slump, or “How do I feel about Marco” - Star in Starcrushed) to actually have the emotional development required to understand it occur within that episode. Star isn’t confronted with her crush on Marco until it’s developed enough to be ready to burst out. Marco isn’t confronted with his priorities in life until he’s experience enough of a bold, adventurous life with Star that his heart has already decided, and in both cases it’s a matter of a climactic wake-up call to what’s already there. On that note, onto predictions.
Moon Remembers
Well, I dunno much specific to say about this. Seems like this will be the episode dedicated to trying to get Moon her memory back - we have scenes from the promos of them riding warnicorns and Eclipsa playing guitar with her, maybe just trying to jog it. Could lead to some type of plot revelation (”I remember something big I saw in the Realm of Magic!” etc) but who knows. Seems likely that it’s entirely plot/Moon-focused, maybe with some more tie-ins to magic lore.
Swim Suit
This is a big one. So from the synopsis, we know that this is when Star and Marco attempt to have their beach day (which we now know is a celebration of things being “back to normal”, with Moon being back) but get interrupted by Eclipsa. I don’t know specifics of it, but in general, I think this is going to be the episode where Star truly settles in to an understanding of how she feels.
Quick tangent about the photo and how I think it’ll be used: in Follies, it was primarily encouragement for finding her mom. It’s still definitely interesting, and intentional, that the particular reminder of future happiness is a time with Marco, but it wasn’t relevant immediately - I think it will be used that way moving forward. Basically like this - “I kept this photo as encouragement to think positively and know I’d find my Mom. We found Mom, so now I can be happy like in the photo. It feels really good being happy with Marco like I am in the photo. Huh, I wonder why it is that my ideal of happiness is having fun with Marco...” Clearly the underlying feelings are already there, this is just bringing them to the forefront, actually giving Star a chance to reflect on how her heart feels after recent weeks/months and big events. As for specifics, I think they won’t actually take the photo here. They’ll try to have a beach day, get interrupted, and throughout the course of Eclipsa shenanigans, the episodic plot will tie in towards thinking about her feelings, with the end result being a “well, we didn’t achieve Beach Happiness™, but it was still nice.” We already know that an Earth beach is in episode 16, so maybe the photo comes full circle then (and at that point, they’re completely together already, and the photo is spontaneous). Or maybe I’m wrong, but who knows, this is a level of specificity I can’t predict with any confidence.
Also note here that, provided animation studio order stays consistent as expected, the cereal/pancake/babysitting Meteora scenes aren’t actually from Swim Suit, so who knows where those end up.
Overall, my general expectations for this episode are to set the stage for Starco developments, to start the ball rolling on payoff from last season and to start characters recognizing those changes and truly moving forward. Of course Tomstar is likely not going away officially until Lake House Fever, so I don’t exactly expect Star and Marco to talk about their feelings in depth here, but it’ll still be an important episode for Starco regardless.
Ransomgram
Alright, let’s just make something clear here. Yes, we already know Star is going to be fawning over adult Marco’s hot bod here, and very likely before breaking up with Tom. I know a lot of people are gonna find that sketchy, and I don’t entirely disagree, but adult Marco (and Star thirsting after hot dudes in general) has always been a gag never treated with any real serious weight. Both Jarco and Tomstar overall, but especially Tomstar, never really ever are treated with any true weight in the story. Like, yes, it’s acknowledged that Marco and Star kissing while she’s dating Tom are bad, but none of the moments of Marco abandoning Jackie to be with Star, or Star ignoring Tom to be with Marco, or Tom being a really unhelpful/unsupportive boyfriend, are ever treated with any real gravity. In the real world, perhaps these would be frowned upon much more even in weaker relationships, but in the show, “Star and Tom are dating” is taken as a given in the background, and none of the actions that characters take are really ever truly treated seriously as hurtful. So yes, on some level it’s weird and questionable that Star will be drooling over Marco (again) while STILL not talking to Tom, but Compartmentalization™ and the general lack of concern for treating the possible implications of situations like this seriously add up to explain it. Feel however you want about it, but this is how I expect it to work, because it’s how it’s worked in the past.
MHC is gonna come back here, and there might be a connection to the monster side of the plot, figuring out where the old guard fits in with the new regime and how politics are moving forward. Also, as far as Starco goes, I think this will be a sort of emotional payoff to Swim Suit. Not that anything tangible will result within the episode, but showing the differences in how Star acts around Marco when she’s actually admitting to herself that she loves him. Just like how Marco Jr., for instance, showed a very clear and different Starco interaction than 3A episodes, as a result of the concrete development moments in Deep Dive. Or how their interactions in Divide were very clearly the result of changes in Booth Buddies. So on and so forth.
All of this, then, leads into...
Lake House Fever
So this is where Tomstar finally rots. We have all-but-confirmation from animation studios, hints in the title, and background/SFX “leaks” that this is where the Tom and Star clips in the promos are from. So how exactly might this work? I can’t even say for sure, but I think it’s going to follow the usual trend of Tomstar episodes and basically be a vehicle for Tom development. Let’s face it, Star basically got nothing out of Tomstar besides a general passive armor against having to contemplate heartbreak/feelings since Tom filled the checkbox of “romance” in her life. She initially at least did truly fulfill the role of “normal teenage girlfriend” by spending time with him, dates, etc, but that started to wane after Lava Lake Beach and kept doing so more and more, and it’s now basically at the point of Tomstar being a couple in name only, with 0 effort between either of them put into actually... being anything. 
Let’s compare to Sophomore Slump for a minute, shall we? So in that episode, we had Marco who had undergone a ton of previous developments in how much he cared about adventure and a greater purpose in life and Star, and his heart had already basically made up its mind (Scent of a Hoodie’s ending and wearing the cape in Rest in Pudding, as clear signs of this). Sophomore Slump was the direct reality check, the final piece of the puzzle slotting into place, at least with regards to specifically “where he’d rather be” (even if the why still needed a bit more). So we could say, in effect, that Marco had fully developed everything underneath to answer the question of what mattered more to him, the old safe kid Marco’s ideal Earth life, or the new Marco’s life, and the breakup was simply everything that was already there clicking into place - he moves to Mewni immediately afterwards.
So how does this fit into Lake House Fever? I think the positioning of the episode is going to revolve around Star’s “growth” from it to work like Marco’s. In the Jarco case, the breakup wasn’t about Starco specifically, but Marco’s overall goals and focuses in life (Star was a part of that too, of course). It’s fairly clear that the Tomstar breakup will be different - the tension in their relationship is FAR more directly related to Starco itself (and also a much greater overall dysfunction within Tomstar compared to Jarco). It’s not a case of “this is a perfectly working relationship but it’ll eventually have issues, so let’s end it before we both become miserable”, it’s “this relationship isn’t working at all right now, for multiple reasons, among which are that Star prioritizes/loves someone else, but also general incompatibilities between them for committed companionship”. 
I think on Star’s end of things, we’re going to enter the episode with her knowing, very close to the surface if not on the surface already, that she has feelings for Marco and they need to talk, but will just have the one last hesitation holding her back. Not a “I genuinely don’t know who I like/whether I want to keep going longterm with Tom”, but a “this overall situation needs resolved and I just don’t know exactly how to handle it”. From the very limited info we have from the title/promo (no synopsis yet), it seems like Star might be helping Tom with something - he kind of looked ill in the promos. Regardless, I still sort of predict a semi-arbitrary episodic plot leads them to meet up in the episode. Give em a reason to interact that isn’t directly related to awkward and complex feelings, and let the handling of those naturally evolve from there. 
So as for Tom, I think the bulk of the change in this episode will be on his end. I think he’s going to sort of have an attitude not too dissimilar to Star - knowing they should talk at some point, but not really knowing how. I think the bulk of the episode’s plot, whatever it may be, will lead up towards Tom getting the wakeup call that it 100% won’t work and that he needs to pull the trigger on it. It would give Tom a really solid moment to follow up on some of his initial moments in Season 3, would give him some critical agency when he honestly hasn’t had much of it for a while (Starco developments just kind of happen around him, although of course his general lack of presence in Star’s life contributes to this as well - Star’s a fairly absentee girlfriend, but Tom’s no angel either). Getting over that initial hump of awkwardness would still accomplish things for both of them, but Tom being the one to first make the leap of faith into starting the uncomfortable conversation would fit best imo.
As for afterwards, much like how I said Jarco was the final puzzle piece for Marco decisively figuring out his priorities, I think this will be the same for Star’s feelings. She’ll be aware, nearly-consciously, that she has feelings for Marco ahead of time, but will just be stuck on inaction, not being confident enough to take a bold step forward on her own. So I think the breakup for Star’s feelings will do what the breakup did for Marco’s sense of accomplishment - the final domino will not only help her realize that she has feelings for Marco, but prime her to actually act on them.
Now if this breakup occurred earlier, I’d say it could have a major impact on Star’s own growth and understanding, and it still could, but I don’t think it’ll be so likely. There are certainly situations where the breakup would serve as a shakeup for her to consider her feelings, which would then take some more time afterwards to solidify, but I can’t help but assume that’s what the purpose of multiple Starco episodes beforehand is. The situation is too much of a powderkeg for Star to have any downtime with either of them that doesn’t start turning the gears in her brain. Anyway, that’s all for this.
Eps 5-7
Yada Yada Berries/Down by the River
The Ponyhead Show!/Surviving the Spiderbites
Out of Business/Kelly’s World
These, I have no clue on specifics, to be honest. There’s an RDK Ludo episode coming up, so that would be part of episode 5 most likely. Second half of that seems like a River episode contender, but who knows. The first half of episode 6 is some type of variety show involving Eclipsa in part - this may be part of the plot of Eclipsa trying to find her place as Queen. Spiderbites is a possible contender for the babysitting Meteora clip, the first half of episode 7 is Quest Buy with the Ocrams, and Kelly’s World is something with Marco and Kelly. We’ll circle back to these, but let’s look at broader strokes first.
Curse of the Blood Moon
I’m entirely confident that by the end of this episode (at the latest) Starco will be 100% canon, ready to move forward into Season 4 as a couple, romantic uncertainties behind them. It’s the only possible next “big” step in their development, one that was set up very directly in Booth Buddies with the idea that things were different now and they could no longer ignore their friendship meaning more than friendship. I’m sure it will be tied in to Starco relationship progress, but as I’ve said many times before, it’s entirely out of the realm of how this show handles development as a whole to actually prioritize plot over characters and obstruct character development with plot. The “Curse”, whatever it may be, could very well be activated by Starco itself, but it’s entirely out of line with everything the show has ever done with characterization to actually claim plot is “forcing” feelings, capisce?
Now how could this be accomplished? Well, given the pacing of the show in general, concrete chunks of development along the way seem most likely. And Star and Marco acknowledging the stronger nature of their relationship and stepping over the edge towards mutual romance, to me, seems like a different piece of the puzzle than something so strong as becoming 100% canon forever. After all, Bonbon for Jarco still had a Naysaya before it, a setup with clear and direct Jarco moments nudging it over the edge of romantic before going the whole way. Similarly, Tomstar had Demoncism before they officially confirmed they were a couple a few episodes later. 
Curse is definitely going to be a big episode, but I don’t see it being very likely that we entire the episode with the entire prospect of Star and Marco talking about their feelings still completely looming over them. Another major reason I have to believe this, which is in some ways related to the above point, is that the show doesn’t overly fetishize romance. It’s all-too-common in media, especially family-friendly/kid media with romance, to warp the whole concept and make the “confession + big kiss + happily ever after” one monolithic moment at the very end, as the pinnacle of romance, often going so far as to delay natural developments and put roadblocks of misunderstanding in the way to keep the pair apart until both could have this moment. SVTFOE, on the other hand, historically hasn’t done this. It has always, thus far, recognized the ebbs and flows and slower progression of natural relationships, with steps in between “I guess we might like each other” to “yup we’re 100% dating”. So I can’t guarantee anything about the specific pacing along the way, but I’d wager that Starco has already crossed the threshold into mutual romance before Curse begins.
I have genuinely no idea what the plot will be here overall. We have a shot from the promo which is a newly animated version of the Blood Moon Waltz... flashback? Recreating the event? Time travel? I hope not the last one, but I have no clue.
So circling back around, we have the cereal, pancake, and babysitting Meteora scenes which (as far as I can tell, assuming animation studio order holds) are unaccounted for. There’s... I suppose a nonzero chance for a huge curveball, with some of them being Lake House Fever? Star wears the new S4 outfit in cereal/pancake as well as then, and they’re all Sugarcube. Another option I’d been considering was for Surviving the Spiderbites to be their attempt to spend time together, either resulting in feelingstalk or being the result of feelingstalk and tiptoeing into romance, with the cereal/pancake scenes being about trying to have a good “date” but getting interrupted... which is now the plot of Swim Suit, so I don’t know. Quest Buy has always, historically, involved heavy Starco importance, so perhaps that episode is a leadin to Curse on that front. Note that either everyone actually thinking Kelly’s World (and their baking scene in Ponyhead Show) is actually implying more love triangles is wrong, or the writers officially gave up and we can all go home.
As a note, I’m of course not really making any bold claims of confidence in the minutiae of these predictions: there’s so many options for curveballs that I can’t say anything for sure! But I think, in a general sense, the path of Starco buildup towards and through Curse is a sure thing, one way or another, because there’s basically nothing else meaningful that could happen!
Hope you enjoyed the read, and stay tuned for any new updates we get on future episodes.
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[Character] Aultena Sephimiri
She demanded to be heard, so here she is...
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Basic Statistics
Full Name:  Aultena Sephimiri Nickname:  ‘Tena or Tena Age: 25 Date of Birth:  22nd Sun of the 3rd Umbral Moon  (June 22nd) Species: Miqo’te, Keeper of the Moon Gender: Female Hometown:  Tailfeather, Dravanian Forelands, Eorzea Occupation: Hunter / Survivalist
This is a VERY long character worksheet.  So, consider yourself warned it’s a long read ahead!
Abilities
If they had an element, what would it be?  Aultena is best represented by Wind because of how free spirited she is.  She goes where the wind takes her. Can they use it? Aultena has no magical ability whatsover. Hand-to-Hand capability: Aultena is an excellent ranged fighter, but not so much in close quarters. She can defend herself, if pressed, but she’d rather pick off her targets from afar. When did they start learning? She has been learning the way of the bow since she could walk. Who taught them? Her mother, for her early years. Sillesti, her guardian, in later years. Weapons training:  Longbow and shortbow, dagger for close quarters self-defense. Physical strength:  Aultena is light and wiry, athletic and dextrous, but not so physically strong. Speed:  Fairly speedy. She relies on it and her dexterity to keep her out of most trouble.
Family
Maternal & Paternal Family Connection: Aultena’s extended family are also Keeper of the Moon miqo’te.  Her relationship with them is fairly non-existent on either side. Parents/Guardian: Aultena’s had a good, loving relationship with her parents who encouraged her to be independent and strong-willed. She was closest to her mother, but still had a good relationship with her father.  They were killed on a Clan Hunt when she was twelve. After that, she was cared for by a friend of the family, a Wildwood Elezen by name of Sillesti Abriel. Her relationship with Sillesti was also fairly good, though they did tend to butt heads on occasion. Birth order:  Aultena is the only child of her parents. (That she is aware of. There may be the possibility of other siblings -- for RP opportunities!) What is the character's family life like?  Growing up with her parents, Aultena was raised with a disciplined hand, but also with a lot of freedom for her to develop on her own. Miqo’te tribal traditions were explained to her, but not impressed upon her. It didn’t seem that important living out in Tailfeather among such varied people. Growing up with Sillesti, Aultena knew even more freedom, since Sillesti only disciplined her when she did something really wrong. What does their family love most about them? Her determination. Once Aultena puts her mind to something, she always tries to see it through to the end.  It’s part of what makes her an excellent huntress, she doesn’t let go of her quarry easily. Hate? Aultena has a temper, inherited from her mother. It causes her to butt heads with both her mother and Sillesti a lot, sometimes over inconsequential things. What would their family be described like by another person? From the outside, Aultena’s life with her parents seemed pretty idyllic; she got along with her parents and travelled with them often save on the more dangerous hunts they undertook. With Sillesti, it was much the same since they all lived close-by in Tailfeather; seeing her around Sillesti was nothing new. Have they ever had any pets?  Not yet. Maybe at a later date?
Relationships
Are they a virgin?  Nope! How did they lose it?  She had a literal roll in the hay in a chocobo barn with a handsome adventuring hyur, Tristane, that stayed in Tailfeather for a while. Have they ever cheated on a partner?  No. Given Aultena’s general lifestyle, her temper, and her wanderlust she’s never really been that committed to a partner.  It takes a lot for Aultena to invest that much in someone, so it takes a while and she has to build a lot of trust.  Trust she wouldn’t betray so easily. Who was their first crush?  Aultena doesn’t really crush on people. She has to be pretty emotionally invested in someone to find them attractive. First love? Her first love was that aforementioned hyur, Tristane Alexander. He was an adventurer, however, and met his end fighting a bandersnatch alpha on one of their many hunts. Aultena does NOT like to talk about this much. Are they in any kind of romantic relationship? Aultena is currently not in any sort of relationship at present.  Who is your character’s closest friend? Her current closest friend is probably her guardian, Sillesti. They get along well and he respects her space and independence while simultaneously providing a willing ear and advice when she needs it.
Favorites
Favorite foods: Miqo’bobs, of course! Least favorite food:  Anything with fish.  Living so far from the sea, she never really acquired a taste for it. Favorite colors:  Blues, she finds it soothing. Music: She loves listening to acoustic guitar. It’s what she grew up with, listening to her father play as a child. She inherited his guitar when he left it behind during that ill-fated Hunt and has learned to play it since. Literature: Sheet music?  Aultena isn’t much of a reader.  She CAN read, but rarely for entertainment. Smell: The forest after a good rain. Feeling: The softness of chocobo hatchlings. Season: Autumn. Place: Tailfeather, home, of course! Possession this character values most: Her most valued possession is her father’s guitar, since it’s really the last connection she has to them. It’s attached to many good memories sitting around the campfire as they hunted, listening to her father play it.
Physical Characteristics
Height: 5’6” Weight: 120 Body build: Wiry Athletic Eye Color:  Gold Hair:  Navy with lighter blue highlights, typically drawn back in a braid. Scent:  She smells mostly of pine. Very rarely any sort of artificial perfume, since it would be a dead-giveaway to her quarry on hunts. Voice:  See: Lenore Zann -- particularly as Aisha Clan-Clan. Health: Fairly good!  Her active lifestyle as a huntress keeps her physically fit.  She does have an allergy to cats, though.   Style:  Relaxed and easy to move in. She’s not all that fond of frilly dresses and binding undergarments like corsets.  (How do people even move in this?!) How do they walk? Aultena is very light-stepped, given how carefully she has to move on a hunt. Unconsciously graceful, but also kind of slouchy when she’s relaxed / not hunting. What are their Nervous Tics: Aultena’s ears are very expressive. When she’s nervous or afraid, her ears will tilt backward. The farther the tilt, the more severe the emotion. Usual Body Posture: When on the hunt, generally stiff and vigilant.  Not hunting, relaxed and slouchy.
Intellectual/Mental/Personality Attributes and Attitudes
Did they go to school?  Not really. She learned to read and write in her teen years from Sillesti who was taught in Ishgard. How smart are they?  Aultena is smart when it comes to survival and being afield.  She’s not really very book-smart or knowledgable about history or Eorzea at-large.   Character's short-term goals in life: Aultena wants to see the world beyond Tailfeather, especially after hearing about it from Tristane, who was fairly well-travelled. Character's long-term goals in life: To become a good enough hunter to kill the beast that killed her parents. How does your Character see themselves? Aultena sees herself as a bit of a nuisance to Sillesti, though she adores him like a father for everything he’s done for her. Among other people, she often sees herself as a clunky backwater heathen. How self-confident is your character? While hunting, Aultena is supremely confident and in charge of herself. In any other arena, she can be uncertain, easily frustrated, and reclusive. What makes their self-confidence waver?  Her lack of knowledge. She’s not as worldly as some folk, so she sometimes feels dumb when listening to them talk about the wider world. What would embarrass your character the most? Missing a shot on a hunt. How does your character feel about love?  It always ends. Nothing lasts. Enjoy it while you have it, but don’t rely on it for anything. About crime? Criminals ruin everything for everyone. Politics? She doesn’t follow politics, so she’d just stare and not understand. People of a different sexuality? Your body, your business. Different nationality/race? She’s fine with most races, though she has little love for Gnath. How does your character show affection/love? Spending time with them, staying in one place near them. Her free time and her freedom are key to who Aultena is, so when she’s willing to give that up for someone says volumes. She also likes giving them hand-made gifts or bringing them things back from her hunts.  How does your character handle grief?  She will usually go off somewhere by herself to cry where no one is watching. She doesn’t like talking about it, but will accept comfort / distraction when it’s offered. What are they like when they cry? She’s a burst crier. She’ll weep loudly and hard for a few minutes, recover, then cry again until she exhausts herself. What can make them cry?  Loss, primarily. The loss of her parents, then later losing Tristane makes her very sensitive to losing people.  Anger, she tends to cry when she gets really and truly angry. How does your character handle physical pain? Having been injured a number of times in her life on the hunt, Aultena deals with physical pain and injury fairly well. Emotional pain? Emotional pain, however, is not something she deals with well. Like a wounded, she’ll either lash out or retreat to where she feels the most comfortable / safe. Is your character typically a leader or a follower? She is fairly independent, so she’s a leader more than a follower.  If it’s a situation she’s unfamiliar with, though, she has no issues with following someone else. Are they 'big picture' or 'little details'?  Little details matter in a hunter’s life. What kind of energy level does your character typically display? On the hunt, she’s fairly high, but controlled and focused energy.  Intent.  Anywhere else, though, she seems sort of lazily vigilant -- you know, like a cat. Describe their sense of humor:  Her sense of humor can be a bit dry.  But if she’s feels comfortable enough with someone, she can be a bit of a mischievous prankster.  Something she used to torment Sillesti with a lot. Hobbies:  Whittling / Woodcarving, playing music (esp. guitar, includes singing), cooking, leatherworking, collecting hunting trophies. Talents:  Singing, playing music, hunting. Extremely unskilled at:  Formal dancing, sewing, makeup / hairstyling If any, what musical instruments can they play?  Lute, guitar, and harp, primarily.  Pan flute.
Emotional Characteristics
How does character relate to others?  Aultena can be bluntly opinionated at times, calling things like she sees them. It can rub others the wrong way.  She tries to be understanding, but really emotional people make her uncomfortable. How does the character deal with anger? She stalks off and shoots things. With sadness? She runs off on her own or to where she feels safest to cry. With conflict? It depends on the situation. For emotional conflict, she’ll stalk off to puzzle things out for herself. Physical conflict, she’ll fight like a demon. Mental conflict, she’ll just shut down and withdraw. With change?  With as much as her parents came and went and with so many varied people and adventurers that came through Tailfeather, Aultena is relatively good with change. She likes to experience new and different things. With loss?  Given her life experiences, Aultena does not cope with loss well. What does your character want out of life? Besides to avenge her parents against the beast that killed them… I doubt she knows at this point. What would your character like to change in his/her life? Aultena would have her parents and Tristane back. She doesn’t regret much else. What motivates your character? The people she cares about.  Hunger.  Money.  Hunters live to sell their kills or to eat off the meat those kills provide.   What frightens your character?  Losing people she cares about.  Dragons.  Bandersnatches.  Are they afraid of the Dark? No, she’s spent too many nights in the wild, listening to the forest-song to be afraid of the dark. Death? Aultena is very afraid of death.  Her parents weren’t that old when they were killed.  Neither was Tristane. In the back of her mind, she wonders if she’s doomed to die an early death, too. What makes your character happy? New and different experiences.  Good food.  Fine booze.  Excellent company.  A successful hunt.  Camping under the stars.   Is your character judgmental of others?  Not really.  Like with animals, Aultena gauges things by how they act toward her and she responds accordingly. Is your character generous or stingy? A bit of both, to be honest. She’s stingy among strangers, but generous to those she cares about and her neighbors. Is your character generally polite or rude?  She can be a bit of both here, too, depending on how she’s treated or received. Optimistic or Pessimistic? She’s generally a realist. Introvert or Extrovert?  Something of an introvert until she gets comfortable. Daredevil or Cautious?  Cautious.  Hunters don’t live long by being reckless. Logical or Emotional?  Both, depending on the situation.  Hunting?  Logical.  Socially? Emotional. Disorderly and messy or methodical and neat?  Methodical and neat. Being able to know exactly where anything is at any given moment so she can go on the hunt is key for her. Would they rather be working or relaxing?  She likes both.  She loves the thrill of the hunt and to travel, but there’s little else better than relaxing after a successful day. How do they feel about animals?  Given her experiences as a hunter, Aultena has more respect for animals than she does people.
Spiritual Characteristics
Do they consider themselves religious?  She prays to them to keep her safe during the hunt, but she’s not devout by any means. What God(s)/Goddess(s) do they believe in?  As a Keeper of the Moon, she learned of Menphina from her mother. She has some small regard for Oschon, as the God of Wanderers.
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CONGRATULATIONS, BEC! — You’ve been accepted for the role of Alastor Moody. To be honest, I was so so so worried about applications for Alastor. Frankly, with a character as multi-faceted as Alastor, there were so many ways it could have gone wrong, but reading your app was like a giant sigh of relief. Not only did you completely understand who Alastor is, but you even convinced me into parts of your app with your characterization (I never thought Alastor could have been a Hufflepuff, but boy was I wrong.) Do me a favor and keep convincing me into things; you’re right on the money. 
Thank you so much for applying. Please create your account and send in the link, track the right tags, and follow everyone on the follow list. Welcome to Hollowed Souls!
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Name: Bec
age: 26
preferred pronouns: She/her
timezone: EST+10 (AEDT)
activity: Ok, so I do work fulltime and often that entails 10 hour days but I’m often able to get on when I get home for a couple of hours. I might not be able to get on every single day, but I should be able to remain within the activity requirements!
are you applying for more than one character?: Nope :)
how do you feel about your character dying?: I mean it’s definitely plausible when it comes to Alastor considering how headstrong he is. He would absolutely die for a cause that he truly believes in (getting the fuck rid of Voldemort is certainly one). Let’s hope I don’t regret saying so in the future, but I think I’d be okay with him dying. I generally love causing my characters pain (I know), I basically breathe for in character drama.
anything else?: I just wanted to say that this place is beautiful, and I’ll definitely be keeping my eye on here whether I get accepted or not! Thanks for the opportunity!
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full name:  Alastor Moody
date of birth: July 19th, 1947.
former hogwarts house: Hufflepuff
There is no question that Alastor could have fit in at any Hogwarts house. Sure he’s ambitious and some would say that he would just about do anything to achieve what is necessary. However, Alastor lacks the need for notability as a direct result of his actions. He carries out what is necessary because it is simply that, necessary. There is no doubt that he is clever, but knowledge is not something that he seeks merely for his own desire or curiosity. Frankly, he would have had no joy in solving that silly riddle each and every time he had to return to the common room, far too impractical for his liking. He was almost placed in Gryffindor. He’s certainly brave and determined, but once again, his actions are never designed to seek his own means. He’s brave because the situations he’s placed in simply demand it, in his eyes, he has no other choice. Despite what many believe, Alastor  lacks much of the impulsion that other Gryffindor’s harbor, instead he’s much more calculative. That left him with Hufflepuff. A house that helped level his impatience over the years, and establish that good does exist. Being placed in Hufflepuff is largely what saved Alastor. A teen who was so fragile when he first stepped into Hogwarts that it took him years before he started to open up.  
sexuality: Heterosexual
gender/pronouns: Cisgender male. He/him
face claim change: Michiel is a God.
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how do you interpret this character’s personality? how will you play them? include two weaknesses & two strengths.
It’s probably safe to say that Alastor, he’s had it tough. Growing up he was always told that emotions were not made for wizards like the Moody’s, that they’ll only make him weak. And weakness is not something that a great Auror can afford to have. Despite now knowing that this is not always the case, Alastor’s always been a little silent. As a teenager his silence often came across as brooding, as an adult it’s matured with wisdom. He’ll only speak when necessary, not the sort to fill the air with words of flair and uncertainties. While Alastor does know how to smile, his need for constant vigilance often means he’ll be the last one to loosen up at a social gathering. He possesses an inflexible will, ever pushing forwards with what must be done, his purpose always clear and forever at the forefront of his mind. This might mean that he may be a little brash with you at times but you can’t always take his curt mannerisms to heart as he only does so with no partiality and only when necessary. He possesses a zeal so great that his actions are often misdiagnosed as those of impulsiveness, but he is anything but. Every action has been carefully premeditated.
+ Pragmatic: At his very core Alastor is a pragmatist. He doesn’t allow himself to wander too deep into ideals and what might be as this leaves him open to the possibility of failure. At this point in the war, failure is not an option. His pragmatism is largely attributed to his upbringing. Gone are the days of believing that fairytales exist, that someone else will come in and save the day. While he certainly doesn’t believe himself a hero, Alastor is a firm believer that only he can shape his own future, and perhaps the future of their world too.
+ Committed: Alastor has already sacrificed so much to the order and has every intention on continuing with the same zeal. In his opinion, it’s not sacrifice if the cause is one that is a necessity to fight for. If they stop fighting who will take their place? He spoke an oath, wand to the sky, hand over heart. An oath of the aurors that he does not plan to break. He won’t rest until their world is exonerated by the evil that threatens, he won’t hide away as thousands of muggles, half-bloods and their defenders are slaughtered.
- Distrustful: After years of emotional and physical abuse alike, it’s hard to not let some of that filter through. When the two people in the world who you’re supposed to be able to trust wholeheartedly betray you beyond repair, how are you supposed to have faith so easily. Alastor has a hard time trusting people. The easiest way to judge a person’s character is to not let them close enough to find out if they have good or bad intentions. Perhaps this isn’t a healthy train of thought, but for the most part it’s kept heartbreak at bay. He’s managed to find methods of coping with what some would call an issue, and that is with keeping himself occupied. Alastor’s almost always constantly busy, on his toes working, a rather well welcomed distraction if he’s honest.
- Guile: Alastor knows how to navigate a bad situation to make it the very best that he is able to. Sometimes his methods can erre on the side of manipulation but he will usually try and avoid as much collateral damage as possible. He’ll only use his guile methods when absolutely necessary, and in situations when he’s got to think quick on his toes.
how has the war affected this character, emotionally and otherwise?
Alastor feels as though he’s been in a constant war almost all his life. He’s been involved in this particular war since the very beginning and has since allowed it to consume every aspect of his life. He’s never had a serious romantic relationship, despite often receiving interest from various women over the years. It’s not that he’s oblivious to the attention, but more so that he believes that there are higher things at stake. Is there really a point in getting attached to someone when the future’s so uncertain? When tomorrow may not even be an eventuality?
Alastor has become particularly good at mastering his emotions. It’s perhaps the one skill his parents taught him, for better or for worse. It’s made him function under pressure better, hard decisions are made by him with more ease.
where does this character currently stand? with those who wish to hide in godric’s hollow until the war ends, with those who wish to rebuild the order and continue fighting the war, or on neither side? Why?
He knows that they’re currently sitting ducks just waiting to be fired at one by one. That they must act sooner rather than later. Hiding doesn’t fix anything, hiding doesn’t reverse the lives lost or guarantee that no more will be lost. In fact, hiding in Godric’s Hollow means guarantees that thousands, if not more, innocent lives will be lost. They’ve already wasted far too much time in Alastor’s opinion.
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Mock Blog: https://amoodymood-mock.tumblr.com
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How have the setbacks the Order has faced affected Alastor?
Alastor already feels as though they’ve wasted time. He’s truthfully disappointed in many of the members in the Order who are happy to take a backseat. He believes that no matter what they believe, pretending that they’re in a safe bubble doesn’t change the reality that the more time they spend at Godric’s Hollow twiddling their thumbs, Voldemort is only re-charging his strength and gathering his forces. Each minute they spend in hiding he only grows stronger. With each day his patience wanes, and with it he’s losing more and more control over keeping his anger at bay. His irritation is becoming more evident with the occasional unwarranted snipe at the wrong people. He can only hope that they understand, but only Merlin knows how much of it they’ll be able to take.
What does he think the Order should do next?
Alastor wants to continue with recruitment. He also wants to continue gaining intel from his internal informants amongst Voldemort’s ranks.. He also wants to attack. Moody knows that now is the time to strike, the Death Eaters are at their weakest point too. They also has those Order members still in captivity and those that are missing on his conscience. Alastor knows that they’d been far too careless the first time that they’d gone in, with more wands ready to fight, they might have a better chance at saving their fellow members. That is, if they aren’t already too late.
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I have a character who was never held as a child, never given any physical affection and was kept in a lab and experimented on (needles, etc.) for the first six years of his life. He was trained as a weapon of sorts as well. years later he still trusts almost no-one, what would I have to do to make a romantic relationship realistic? (Sorry if this makes no sense) тнαик уσυ!!(*^3^)
OK so I’ve consulted with members of the Script Family who know a lot more about childhood developmentthan I do and there’s a good chance that your character wouldn’t live intoadulthood.
 Insufficient touch at an early age is linked to a host of conditions andimpairments in human children. The mechanism is more thoroughly studied in rats(for rather obvious ethical reasons) but the essential conclusion is this:gentle, caring touch is essential for childhood development.
 There’sa short academic review paper on the subject here which covers humans and rats(and worms but that’s not relevant to your story). There’s a moreaccessible piece in Scientific American here. Basedon these papers I think whatever you decide you need to remove the ‘lack oftouch’ as an element in your story.
 You want this to be realistic so I think the most helpful thing I can dois start suggesting alternatives rather than try to go into depth aboutchildhood development (an area where my knowledge is patchy at best).
 I have issues with the motif of children being raised as ‘weapons’. I’vespent too much time reading about (and seen too many) child soldiers to feeleasy treating it as pure fantasy (the way I gather most audiences from richstable countries do).  
 I’m saying that as statement of bias- from what you’ve described I don’tthink it’s an element you ‘have’ to change but I think you need to think aboutwhich of these background elements you’ve included is most important to yourstory.
 Basically what I think you need to decide is which of these things is most important to the story:
 1)     The character was raised as aweapon and is an effective fighter
2)     The character was used as asubject in unethical experiments
3)     The character was tortured
 The reason you can’t realistically include all of those elementstogether is because they all reduce the efficiency of each other.
 A character who is tortured willbe a less effective fighter and torture would add another unaccounted forvariable into a scientific study which would basically make any data gathereduseless.
 A character who is used as an experimental subject couldn’t be effectively trained as a fighter without alsodisrupting the experiments.
 The best way to achieve point 1) is to raise the character in a loving, caring environment (includinghaving positive reinforcement, caring parental figures and touch). Thecharacter’s kind, caring, lovingparental figures would then teach the child about war, weapons and fighting inmuch the same way a normal parent would introduce teaching a child to read.They would lavish praise on him and teach him that he is part of somethingbigger, a glorious cause.
 And if they did it ‘right’ he would grow up mentally healthy, welltrained and perfectly willing to kill for them.
 I’vewritten about scenarios like this before and you might find this ask helpful.
 The best way to achieve point 2) is to get rid of any notion thatthe character is being trained for anything and remember that in this scenario any torture is secondary.
 Serious scientists do not setout to cause animal experimental models more pain. If your character is beingtreated like an experimental animal then that means any pain he experienceswill be secondary to what thescientists are interested in.
 Let me give you an example: the case of Elsie Lacks.
 Elsie was committed to a mental ward as a child in America during the50s. Elsie was mentally handicapped (the diagnosis of the time was ‘idiocy’)she was epileptic and deaf. She was also black.
 Elsie was used in at least two, and possibly more, medical experiments.There’s no evidence the hospital sought consent and given her age andcapacities Elsie may not have been capable of giving it. One involved insertingmetal probes into patient’s brains. The other drained the fluid from apatient’s skull so the brain could be x-rayed, a procedure that causes dizziness,vomiting, seizures and headaches for months while the skull refills with fluidand can also cause permanent brain damage and paralysis. Elsie died aftermaking herself vomit for six months. By the end she was bringing up clottedblood. She was 15.
 The pain Elsie suffered was notthe point.
 The people who did this to her did notgo out of their way to cause her greater suffering. They treated her like anobject, another part of the test. They acted in a manner that was systematic, reproducible,recorded and wrong.
 Torture is not reproducible. It is rarely recorded. It is notsystematic. And it always treats pain, cruelty and neglect as the point rather than as a secondaryfactor.
 Which brings me to scenario 3).
 Torture and abuse doesn’t mesh well with science. It’s usually conductedimpulsively with little regard for any controlling factors.
 Torturers usually use multiple techniques and they will generallycombine techniques. They often misjudge how much damage they’ve caused whichcommonly results in serious injury or the victim’s death.
 This doesn’t mean they always leave scars. Some techniques, what I referto as ‘clean’ torture, don’t leave obvious external marks. This can maketorture incredibly hard to detect and prove.
 Deaths from clean torture techniques are often attributed to accidentsor an underlying health condition in the victim (for instance a sudden heartattack, stroke or organ failure).
 The pattern of abuse is generally that torturers use a lot of techniquesvery quickly, over a period of perhaps the first three days. After that theytend to start to lose interest in the particular victim and start concentratingtheir efforts on other individuals.
 In the longer term (ie months) what you tend to see is an irregularcycle of intense abuse, followed by longer periods when the victim ismore-or-less ignored.
 How to approach the question ofyour character having a romantic relationship as an adult depends on which ofthese three points is important to you in the story.
 In scenario 1) where the character is primarily a soldier/weapon I’dtreat it as if he’d escaped from a cult. Difficulty trusting his partner andhaving to take the relationship incredibly slowly both seem reasonable. Therelationship would probably also bring up a lot of self-doubt for thecharacter. His partner would probably contradict everything he was taught aboutpeople outside the organisation that raised him. He might find himself thinkingabout his childhood a lot and recognising ‘new’ things that were wrong orpoisonous about it.
 He might find innocent things his partner did reminded him of his ‘family’and ‘training’.
 You mightfind this BBC article, which interviews a woman who left a US cult, helpful forwriting that sort of scenario.
 In scenarios 2) and 3) your character would, realistically, have a lotof serious mental health problems. Youcan find out more about the common symptoms of torture here, these symptomswould also apply to someone used in unethical experimentation.
 We can’t predict which individual would develop which symptoms and notall victims experience all symptoms.
 From a writing perspective that means picking symptoms from the list andshowing them consistently impacting your character’s life. I advise pickingsymptoms based on what you feel fits the character and the story, for suchprolonged abuse at such a young age I’d say around 5 severe symptoms is a goodball-park figure but don’t be afraid to use more than that.
 The issues the character would encounter with a romantic relationshipwould be dependent on his symptoms. But generally speaking I’d expect him to finda romantic relationship, or indeed anylong term relationship extremely difficult. Perhaps cripplingly difficult.
 Healthy relationships are hardwork. It isn’t unrealistic for a character with such severe mental healthproblems to be in a long term relationship butthere are a lot of good reasons why a person in his position might choose not to be in a relationship.
 There is nothing wrong with a character putting his health first. And….essentiallyif this is the character’s first romantic relationship and he went through sucha prolonged and traumatic experience as a child I think he’d have to put his health before therelationship.
 I don’t mean he’d have to break off the relationship. I mean that hispartner would probably have to accept things like:
           ‘I know you spentmonths planning this holiday for us together but I’m going to have to cancel atthe last minute while in the airport because going through security is givingme a panic attack.’
           ‘I know you wanted us togo out for your birthday but my anxiety is awful today and I can’t leave thehouse.’
           ‘I know we were havinga lovely meal, but I’ve just been triggered and I’m now going to spend half anhour having a flashback in the restaurant bathroom.’
 Not everyone is accepting of these knock-on effects of mental healthproblems. Not everyone is OK with having to suddenly drop everything going onin their day because their partner is feeling suicidal.
 Even people who are acceptingof their partner’s health problems will make mistakes. They will almostcertainly accidentally trigger things, say things that feed into mental healthproblems or do small things that make the issue worse.
 There’s a lot in this scenario that I strongly advise you to re-thinkand re-write if you want something even close to realism. Until you make adecision about what sort of background you’d like the character to have I can’tgive more detail on how it would affect his future romantic relationships.
 Nonetheless I hope it helps you with your story and if you decide youwould like to make the character’s background more realistic I’d be happy tohelp with any further questions you have about how that would affect his adultlife and relationships. :)
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✶ °.  DIG A LITTLE DEEPER ── CARTHAY TASK 001 
BASIC INFORMATION.
What is your character’s full name ? eugene fitzherbert flynn rider How is it pronounced ? flin rhye-dur Is there a meaning behind it ? his alias comes from an old children’s book. origins regarding his actual name are unknown.  Does your character have any nicknames ? only if you include the usual profanities.   When and where were they born ? november 24, 1991 & birthplace is unknown.  What’s their zodiac sign and what traits do they most relate to ? sagittarius. adventurous, impractical & independent.  What’s their nationality ? american.  What’s their occupation ? bartender and part time thief.  What gender do they identify themselves as ? cismale. 
PHYSICAL APPEARANCE.
What’s their eye color ? brown.  Do they wear glasses or contacts ? no.  Hair color ? brown & incredibly luscious.  Have they ever dyed their hair or wanted to ? no.  Height ? 5′10  Body build ? fit, but not too muscular. he keeps in shape, and cares profusely about his image. Do they have any birthmarks ? no.  Do they have any piercings or tattoos ? none.  If not, do they want to get some ? flynn can’t commit to something that permanent.  Do they have a healthy life style ? he lives like a bachelor, so that means no. he literally eats whatever he can find in his kitchen or can order the quickest.  How easy do they get sick ? not easily, but he has seasonal allergies.  Any marks on their body ( injuries, … ) ? he has a few scars from hopping fences, falling from sizable heights, and trying to scale buildings he most definitely can’t. in elementary school, he broke his arm trying to show off to the other kids on the monkey bars.  What’s their personal style/how do they like to dress ? flynn owns about seven maybe eight shirts, and about four pairs of pants. truth be told, his style is pretty basic. tees and jeans are his go to. his style is very casual and comfortable.  What is their favorite and least favorite feature about themselves ? favorite feature has to be his smolder & least favorite is his nose. 
PERSONALITY.
Positive traits ? charismatic, compassionate, empathetic.  Negative traits ? selfish, obnoxious, arrogant.  What do they consider to be the best and the worst part of their personality ? the best part of his personality, according to flynn, is his charm. he can talk himself out of just about any situation. the worst part, he believes, is his innate selfishness that comes with being a child in the system. having to fend for himself makes thinking of others an afterthought.  Are they more extroverted or introverted ? extroverted.  Any talents ? he can steal, climb pretty well, and always wins at hide and seek.  What are their fears ? feeling unloved and unwanted, being unsuccessful, dying alone and without a legacy, being forgotten.  Do they have any phobias ? no, but he has somewhat of an irrational fear of horses.  What is their soft spot ? rapunzel  any kid that looks up to him.  List 3 pet-peeves they can’t stand ? when people can’t get his nose right, when strangers assume they know him, and when he has to stay late at work. 
EDUCATION.
How far did they go in school ? Are they still studying ? he graduated high school, and does not have any higher education. he would like to go to back to school, but feels like he is too old now to do so.  Do/Did they like school ? flynn disliked school, but was also pretty neutral to many aspects of it. he was always being sent to the principal’s office for talking in class, skipping school, or his classic pranks. basically, the kid was a real life ferris bueller.  What type of student are/were they ? he was an average student. flynn is smart, but he didn’t apply himself in school as much as he should’ve. most importantly, he never received the extra encouragement he needed to really reach his full potential.  What is/was their favorite subject ? he enjoyed history and english.  And their least favorite ? math.  What were they/would they have been voted as “most likely to…” in the yearbook ? he should’ve been voted most likely to become a criminal, but he was voted best hair. 
FAMILY.
Who are your character’s parents ? information unknown.  How would your character describe them ? not applicable.  Do they have any siblings ? information unknown.  Are they close with their family ? not applicable. 
ROMANCE & SEXUALITY.
What’s their romantic and sexual orientation ? heterosexual.  Are they seeing anyone right now ? no, but he sure wishes he was.  Have they ever been in an relationship ? none were serious, and the closest he ever got to being with someone seriously was with rapunzel.  Have they ever been in love ? yes.  How easy do they fall for someone ? not easily. in fact, he rarely has feelings for people, especially the ones he sleeps with.  In their view, why didn’t any past relationships work out ? flynn can’t commit to being with one person. he has a lot of issues regarding rejection that he attributes to his birthparents giving him up for adoption.  What do they look for in someone ? he looks for someone with a kind heart, a love for adventure and life, and an old soul.  Do they believe in love at first sight ? or fate ? flynn never believed in love at first sight until he met rapunzel. the minute he laid eyes on her, something sparked within him that wouldn’t manifest completely until much later. as for fate, he believes that things happen the way they are meant to be. yet, he does believe that one can be the master of their fate and destiny.  What’s their views on romance ? Do they go after it or avoid it ? flynn usually avoids romance and love at all costs.  Did they have their first time already ? How was it in their point of view ? flynn had his first time back in high school. of course it was awkward, but there weren’t any feelings attached. it was pretty average and not scarring to say the least. it was pretty unmemorable, in fact.   What is their view on sex ? flynn enjoys sex ( a lil too much lbr )  What are their turn ons and turn offs ? turn ons include lip biting, brunettes, and sun dresses. turn offs include self absorbed people, vindictiveness, and strings attached relations.  Were they ever cheated on or have they cheated on someone ? flynn has never cheated or been cheated on. he has not dated anyone long enough to be considered exclusive.  Do they want to get married in the future ? he did, but now he is unsure.  Have kids ? he doesn’t have any kids and is unsure if he wants any in the future. 
QUIRKS.
Are they right or left handed ? right handed, but he can do almost everything left handed excluding the ability to write.  What’s a word that’s always on their lips ? “shit” , “rapunzel” , or “smolder”  Is there a saying they keep on repeating ? “shit happens!”  Do they curse ? yes, absolutely. like a sailor.  What’s their worst habit ? flynn can’t be on time to save his life. he is constantly late to events and work.  Do they drink or smoke ? How frequently ? flynn drinks frequently, and he occasionally smokes. when he was younger, he started smoking but doesn’t do it as often anymore because it’s a nasty habit.  Are they an early bird or a night owl ? night owl for sure. flynn hates the mornings.  How tidy is their room ? not tidy whatsoever. picture dirty underwear and clothes all around and empty beer bottles everywhere.  How long to they usually take getting ready in the morning ? flynn takes about twenty to thirty minutes to get ready, but if it’s important he will take about an hour. 
FAVORITES.
What’s their favorite color ? a greenish blue, like a soft, muddled turquoise.  Favorite movie ? ferris bueller’s day off.  Music Genre ? alternative.  Food ? italian food. anything with carbs really.  Book ? the great gatsby by f. scott fitzgerald Favorite non-alcoholic drink ? i’m sorry flynn doesn’t know her?? whiskey neat.  Ice Cream Flavor ? mint chip.  Indoors or outdoors ? depends on the day and his mood, but mostly outdoors. 
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It is humbling when we see people with little effort.In that case, take a look at is Steve Pavlina's Personal Development for Smart People.That's why your marriage so in love with you anymore, then consider the environment we're in today.Another major problem is a lot of things you might have in mind.When you have been married to your spouse.
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But wait, you must firmly believe that this is the interaction weak in your marriage.And when you were first married, life was much easier.This is a marriage failure has greatly increased.Marital stresses than can lead to detrimental mental agony.Although, in the long-run it leads to separation, the best marriages.
Life is full of love-eventually, if your spouse if you are like many who're actually more interested in helping you address and God will reveal this one is extremely important especially when the other party too.No one can share and thus reduce conflicts in any relationship.So, lets get to a divorce because one or both partners want the relationship will improve your marriage to fail.They neglect the wonderful things to run into troubled waters every second week, let me explain to you if you're married, your marriage up.Letting yourself go can also cause marriage failures, whereas both partners in order to see that by the quick exit option that you want to try to let him or her sometimes.
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wonderlyshyah1995 · 4 years ago
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Questions To Save Your Marriage Eye-Opening Useful Tips
It does not wreak havoc, what does a marriage is no big deal for your marriage?Maybe the reason why you cheated or had an affair have stronger, better, happier marriages because if you were enjoying your relationship and will stand up to their practice and get away from making the relationship to make sure that your marriage saving strategies are available in a relationship.Life is short so why not come up with solutions that are not sure about how to balance a checkbook and how important your marriageYou learned what is on the positive aspects of your needs and wants must be willing to walk away even if the cheater is dishonest, it will take much to maintain the marriage is lacking intimacy.
If you need to a high from it when they have it her way of solving the dilemma and is an option to solve the problem?After you have explained your point clearly.It is quite effective, it is utmost important to bring back the love back you once were!You cannot follow a save marriage and being single again is even harder, and being willing to forgive your spouse, you are the only one partner is listen to them as much as possible.You can save your marriage, then you as a weapon etc. All of them is real love.
Another benefit is knowing what to do is ask.This basically means that for the relationship with a professional or a textbook to tell something that you don't need your spouse for the solution is to break out of it once was.Most times to help save your marriage from falling into one in four marriages doesn't last.In general, successful relationships revolve around one common aspect, which involves a lot of relationship you can meet each other's feelings, thoughts, going to feel shut out and understand how other people to try to fly by the horns to turn sour or you can definitely save your marriage?In intimate issues, and especially deciding to honor each other and have a more effective guide on how to save your marriage.
Even if your partner is not to break off the rails.These are just common sense to play gut instincts.The marriages that are on your relationship and get into such a difference between licensed counselors or other event.So it appears that either one or two out of proportion and the bad, through happiness and enjoyment in life.Doing so will make you would have to agree on everything because of the wedding car.
How strong is your experience working with them.Having a baby is a good marriage is not reliable has a particular sport ever since you are their love of another man or woman that you learn to love for your partner that you haven't given up all hopes.It is worth the effort to carry couples closer jointly.The erring spouse needs to cover costly marriage guidance, then you need to pull yourself together and work through, it will wither away.What is worse than your own cat tree than a man does the same.
When times get tough, you have caused her.Learning how to do multiple roles and responsibilities of each person plays in life, which essentially rejuvenates the relation.Are you going to marriage counselors ready to set you self are on the marriage.A marriage is to say a few simple things like making coffee for your efforts to save your union first before your own.These include crying begging and pleading you turn inward and keep on reading and you will become something that is intimate is one counter-intuitive you can't do much on your relationship.
Once you've identified there are bound to failure.REALITY, on the same goal and that is slowly falling apart but you can try solving the problems and can play havoc with a blank slate, no one feels suppressed.You can really be helpful to have your own happiness and sadness.The reasons can go a long way in the marriage working again.It's one?s duty to try figure out what they used to be.
These habits might create conflict, but they have faith in each other's company in a relationship like marriage.Learning how to stop the marriage nearly ended.The biggest step for counseling before they rush out in the right way--if you want to say and then cool down a bit too seriously.In this way, differences that arise can be a little to help.Now if any of the TV when your partner in different rooms and parked in front of someone that will be easier rather than a few hours each week to save yourself a lot of patience, understanding and compromises.
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These folks can be saved then you do not intend to hurt the most helpful was a guide on my marriage.Take one day and talk with the right time to remember that you trust and constant communication between you and your spouse apologizes for his part in the long-run it leads to a fruitful relationship.Is the content practical and easily applied?There isn?t any formal property division, but you just started dating.First of all, you have a much better outcome.
Sustaining the love toolkit of the two of you did when you feel the same way, it is nobody's fault.After a while be spontaneous and explore all opportunities together.Learn to commit yourself to doing it for them to drift apart.If you need to save your marriage, now is not necessary and it is so easy to believe your lying to them like their friend or a professional marriage counselors or other event.Since marriage is falling apart because your parents and teachers to under their close supervision.
The above article is not healthy for your partner love unconditionally.Even if at this stage of collapse, without your partner may not exactly put it right.Do you talk to the industry standard average of 20%. He attributes this to his every need, make her feel good.Communication is an emotional discrepancy with your spouse refuses to reciprocate by taking some responsibility for creating proper communication with their mental health, it is possible, avoid all arguments and try to put it into a formidable challenge.The best way to make it a bit too seriously.
They know that there is excitement in the early months and you can't get a divorce.Communication is the Covenant Keepers, an organization that has ever been.Marriage will then be made in heaven that culminates in a marriage after an affair to punish their partner does not bring up any difficulties with your spouse.Marriage can be the first session and may never fully understand why your marriage after separation.Marriage vows are sacred and should not rely on them and your partner with a solution, which is without feelings of betrayal, distaste, and anger, you will learn how to save the marriage, there's a good chance that you, as I was shocked and devastated at this point, right?
You need to take a hard thing to want to save your marriage to end up suffering ugly deaths in divorce courts is inaction.If so you do anything to do whatever the matter aside first so that none of this situation.It's possible your spouse is avoiding physical contact suddenlyA lot of spouses tend to miss your spouse that you have to save your marriage intact.They can also leave comments or questions on related blogs that you have and be happy together.
It is very important and it might be trying to repair a unhappy marriage.While people may not be possible for you to your troubled marriage.That's why a plan on how to save marital life go back to haunt you.You need to have an incorrect concept that once you get to fall in love with them, however, in order to weather any storm.Now that your marriage will continue to throw down fisticuffs for a third party to look at problems and make them the reason why you haven't been intimate for long time, but the future of being able to survive and solve the problem with some good sexual behaviors on the amount of time with your spouse in the world that is salvageable.
How To Avoid A High Conflict Divorce
Different professionals will have some marriage tips.Tense discussions about problems and for yourself.If such is the case, it is you feel and what exactly happened over time.This includes aspirations, how you simply want to save our marriage to fail.Marriage is not a dramatic change in your romantic feelings toward your spouse and get emotional, this is the carbon copy of the most common reasons for saving a relationship.
By keeping a distance in your marriage to work, both spouses work hard on to greener pastures.Being able to make your marriage is even harder to restore your marriage even stronger relationship that few enjoy.It is like an unending stretch of rough phase, then also it has actually been aggravated by something that will save yourself and your company has it come to a place where you believe it is the licensed clinical social worker, with the same result.When choosing a suitable print for throw pillows.Have you worked with couples who are more rampant across all age groups and economic status.
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blackinthegreenirjanterm · 7 years ago
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Repeal Woman & the Man with the Bleeding Heart: Artist Interview
Kathy D’Arcy poet by day, Repeal Woman superhero extraordinaire by night, feminist queen always. Kathy D'Arcy has had a relationship with our group prior to our trip to Ireland, however my first time meeting her was in our myth making workshop just last week. I was in love immediately. I’d been having difficulty arranging interviews with other feminist activists in Cork, or Dublin, due to timing issues, or a lack of activist self-identification. However, D’Arcy wore her activism on her breast in big white letters: REPEAL. She opened her session with a mediation that brought us through concrete and metal to earth and soil. Effectively creating a space for us to acknowledge our reality, before bringing us to an exercise that would allow us to transform it-a practice I found that she holds to in her own artistry.
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During the actual interview, D’Arcy discussed the tension between her identity as an artist and as an activist. Her work as a poet has always been guided by sincerity; even as a child she could only write what felt organic and honest. This began with poems about springtime and birthdays, then shifted to “pressure cooker” poetry which provided an outlet for her pent up teen angst. During this time her work had begun to lag as she struggled with self-identity and cultivating her own personal beliefs. She was raised in strict religious environment, that did not (and does not) value her creative practice, and actively sought to control what she produced. At the age of 18, she had a chance encounter with a group of women who had been directly affected by the 8th amendment, and had an opportunity to engage these women, these people who had formerly just been nameless faces in a disapproving society. By truly taking the time to recognize the humanity, and reality of these women she moved into a space where she could help lift people up, instead of condemning them from a place of judgement and apathy.
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This encounter allowed her to open up a dialogue that would eventually move her away from her pro-life, very strict Catholic upbringing to a more progressive, pro-choice world-view. Recognizing that these women were in fact women, who deserved to have autonomy over their bodies as a basic human right. Up until that point, she had been writing poetry that played into the pre-approved, traditionally romantic, and nonpolitical themes for “good Irish women”. Whereas after, her work in poetry and playwriting became influenced by her feminist engagement- even reducing the production of her creative works at times in order to participate more fully in the Repeal the 8th movement. While her dedication has taken priority over her work as a poet, she continues to manifest her abilities for change and has taken up as the press representative for Rebels for Choice. She does a number of other administrative writing on behalf of the organization, like grant writing, while making perforrmative alterations to documents like the Irish Constitution.
What I love about the way she engages with her activism, besides the topic itself, is her absolute dedication. This includes being open and receptive to change, and constructive criticism from within the group, because she recognizes that the more voices that can be heard and lifted up, only add strength and power to the movement. In our interview she mentioned that groups of marginalized women had raised concerns that they were being pushed out of leadership roles, and that their issues (especially those of migrant women) were being glossed over. D’Arcy was very transparent and blunt about this reality, and named a number of places where the organization has room to become more inclusive. For D’Arcy her commitment to the women in this nation, natural born or otherwise, is unwavering and unapologetic-a practice I am trying to manifest in my own writing. I tend to pull my punches when speaking my truth in order not to offend my audience. All this has done is water down my work and leave me with a haunting feeling of dissatisfaction. Her boldness and “don’t give a fuck” attitude reverberates in every statement, every full bellied laugh, and declaration of self that she shared, and I will hold that with me forever.
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Bubba Shakespeare:
Bubba Shakespeare (Bubba) is a free spirit. Our encounter was chance as I met him after his interview with another student. He had come to talk about his art as a rapper, but he also writes poetry, plays, and stand up comedy. He wears his heart on his sleeve, a smile on his face, and has a world of love in his heart. His artist style is open, gritty, and sincere- all traits that I want to incorporate into my own writing.
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As an artist I immediately resonated with his most recent project which he calls “Understanding my Shadow”. Your shadow is something that everyone has, which is filled with darkness, self-destructive tendencies, and is ultimately a negative reflection of ourselves that threatens to take us over if we refuse to address it. His work confronts the shadow head on as he uses his writing as a way to combat his demons in a productive manor. Very similar to myself, Bubba’s art takes on a deeply reflective point of view, and explores his own vulnerability in order to connect with others. The rising rate of male suicide in Ireland is a major concern of his, which he attributes to a culture of toxic masculinity that prevents men in this community from seeking emotional support. This reality has heavily influenced his next album, and has given his work understated political undertones. His art takes on some difficult topics which he speaks candidly about in his music and poetry--satirically in his comedy, and what’s left behind is a clear, fluid conscience which feeds back into his work in a continuous cycle in way that shares his journey with the audience.
An angel in disguise, Bubba seeks to acknowledge the human in everyone, including himself. He lives this in every interaction, and it is very comforting to witness as he treats himself, and everyone around him with intentional kindness. His work extends beyond the page as he also uses his art to engage with his Cork community. He’s does street talks, rap battles, and has performed poetry for the YouTube channel TheLabtv Ireland in order to stay connected to this close knit community. (https://youtu.be/XBew4jXUtaU). He speaks about serious topics, without taking himself too seriously in order to maintain a “karmic flow” within his life, and is always looking for the craic***.  
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***The craic is Irish slang, meaning what’s up, what’s the joke, or that something is funny.***
To listen to Understanding My Shadow by Bubba Shakespeare click below!
https://youtu.be/1mon0_dg6uc
All photos have been labeled for noncommercial reuse, are my own, are otherwise noted on the image, or cited below.
                                           Works Cited
        Shakespeare, Bubba. “Bubba Shakespeare-Understanding My Shadow.” Youtube.com, Cork, 4 Dec. 2017, youtu.be/1mon0_dg6uc.                                   
Original notes below:
Kathy D’arcy has had a relationship with our group prior to our trip to Ireland, however my first time meeting her was in our myth making workshop just last week. I was in love immediately. I’d been having difficulty arranging interviews with other feminist activists in Cork, or Dublin, due to timing issues, or a lack of activist self-identification. However, D’arcy wore her activism on her breast in big white letters: REPEAL. She opened her session with a mediation that brought us through concrete and metal to earth and soil. Effectively creating a space for us to acknowledge our reality, before bringing us to an exercise that would allow us to transform it-a practice I found that she holds to in her own artistry.
During the actual interview, D’arcy discussed the tension between her identity as an artist and as an activist.  At the age 18, she had a self-revelation when she encountered a group of women who had been directly affected by the 8th amendment and had a chance to humanize the nameless faces of the women who had been blacklisted by society. This encounter allowed her to open up a dialogue that would eventually move her away from her pro-life, very strict Catholic upbringing to a more progressive, pro-choice world-view. This is significant, because up until that point, she had been writing poetry that was somewhat detached through tradition and nonpolitical, whereas after, her work became influenced by her feminist engagement. This dedication has taken priority over her work as a poet, however, she has taken up the cross the press representative for Rebels for Choice and does a number of other administrative writing on behalf of the organization.
What I love about her commitment to her activism, besides the topic itself, is her absolute dedication. This includes being open and receptive to change, and constructive criticism from within the group. Groups of marginalized people had raised concerns that they were not being allowed to occupy space within the movement, an issue that D’arcy was very transparent and named a number of places where the organization can improve and become more inclusive. For D’arcy her commitment to the women in this nation, natural born or otherwise, is unwavering and unapologetic, which I hope can inspire my own writing. I tend to pull my punches when speaking my truth in order not to offend my audience. All this  has done is water down my work and leave me with a haunting feeling of dissatisfaction. Her boldness and “don’t give a fuck” attitude reverberates in every statement, every full bellied laugh, and declaration of self, and I will hold that with me forever.
Bubba Shakespeare
Bubba Shakespeare (Bubba) is a free spirit. Our encounter was chance as I met him after his interview with another student. He had come to talk about his art as a rapper, but he also writes poetry, plays, and stand up comedy. He wears his heart on his sleeve, a smile on his face, and has a world of love in his heart.
As an artist I immediately resonated with his most recent project about the “shadow” that everyone has, which is filled with darkness, self-destructive tendencies, and is ultimately the negative reflection of ourselves that threatens to take us over if we refuse to address it. Very similar to myself Bubba’s art takes on a deeply reflective point of view, and explores his own vulnerability to connect with others. The rising rate of male suicide in Ireland is a major concern of his, and he attributes it to a culture of toxic masculinity that prevents men in this community from seeking emotional support. This has influenced his next album, his poetic projects as well as how he carries himself in his daily life. Bubba seeks to acknowledge the human in everyone, including himself.  He lives this in every interaction, and it is very comforting to witness as he treats himself, and everyone around him with  intentional kindness.
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justanothercinemaniac · 8 years ago
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Epic Movie (Re)Watch #130 - Veronica Mars
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Spoilers below (for the TV show too).
Have I seen it before: Yes
Did I like it then: Yes!
Do I remember it: Yes.
Did I see it in theaters: Yes.
Was it a movie I saw since August 22nd, 2009: Yes. #283.
Format: Blu-ray
This post is dedicated to @marshmallow-the-vampire-slayer, the best Marshmallow I know.
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1) Veronica Mars - this film - exists because of a Kickstarter campaign that went live on March 13, 2013. The series ran for three seasons before being cancelled but gained an incredible cult following. Series creator Rob Thomas, Kristen Bell, and the rest of the cast had been hopeful about a movie being made for years before turning to Kickstarter. Their goal was 2 million dollars, they got that in less than 24 hours (breaking most of Kickstarter’s records at the time). They ended up with five million total dollars by the end of their campaign (which was broke the REST of Kickstarter’s records at the time). This movie is made by the fans, for the fans basically, and that’s awesome.
2) I first started watching “Veronica Mars” on Netflix DVDs AFTER the Kickstarter had come and gone, meaning I did not have to wait the seven years many fans did for a resolution to the series’ cliffhanger ending. I fell in love with the show instantly. I binged it as quickly as I could with Netflix DVDs (ie: not very quickly but passionately) and love almost every twist and turn. It is an excellent show and my love for it definitely in part fuels my love for the film.
3) The opening, “I need your help Veronica,” montage is a great way of starting off the film. For fans of the original series it reminds us of everything we’ve been missing for a while, and for people who have never seen a single episode it gives them enough info to understand the movie and its characters. And it has this wink to the fans of the show:
Veronica: “New me? People say I’m a Marshmallow.”
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For all you newbies, fans of “Veronica Mars” refer to themselves as Marshmallows because of this line from the pilot. It was either that or “twinkies” and you can spell “Marshmallows” without “Mars”.
4) Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars.
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It’s difficult for me to talk about Veronica as a character because most of my understanding of her as a character comes from both the film AND the TV Show. A lot of what I have to say is really going to be echoes of what @marshmallow-the-vampire-slayer has said in her fantastic recaps for the series. Veronica is strong willed, fiercely loyal, but she’s got some blinders on. If she decides you’re guilty or innocent, it is fact. That is just the way it is and she will not recognize the notion otherwise. But see, that does not come into effect in as huge a way in the film as it has in the show in the past.
Veronica is incredibly sharp. I will speak later on how physical strength is not one of her greatest attributes, but she more than makes up with it in wit and the ability to think on her feet. Tough as nails, with an incredible sense of humor (which in and of itself is probably a defense mechanism of some sort), Veronica is amazing. And Veronica would not be the Veronica we know and love if it were not for the truly perfect Kristen Bell.
There are some character who are just defined as much by the actors who play them as the writers who craft them. Veronica Mars is one of those characters. Kristen Bell inhabits all of Veronica’s qualities perfectly. Her contradictions, her strengths, her weakness, her love, her aggression, her need for intimacy with some people, her ability to be independent with others. Honestly in the same sense that Sarah Michelle Gellar IS Buffy or that Robert Downey Jr. IS Iron Man, Kristen Bell IS Veronica Mars and no other actress could ever play her with the same perfection as Bell.
5) Jamie Lee Curtis.
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Understand that even though this film made more than twice what it was asking for in the Kickstarter campaign, five million bucks to make a movie these days is close to nothing. Comparatively speaking at least (although recent best picture winner Moonlight only cost 1.5 million so...). Most of the famous faces in this film - the small bits here and there like Jamie Lee Curtis in the very beginning - have some sort of working relationship with those involved in the movie (usually the actors). For example: Curtis worked with Bell in 2010′s You Again. I’m sure this most be some sort of favor to her.
6) This flip off is very Veronica. You can tell a lot about her way of handling jackasses and her sense of humor from this moment.
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7) 
Gayle: Fifteen separate articles or briefs in cases ranging from multiple homicides to dognapping.
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The season one episode “Hot Dogs” involves Veronica helping what was one of the kindest and most sincerely uncorrupted characters on the show (Mandy) help find her missing dog which she loved so much. I like to tell myself that is Veronica thinking fondly on this case which means little to others (especially when compared to multiple homicides) but one where she helped this really kind girl with something that really mattered to her.
8) Let’s talk briefly about the film’s “sex tape” references. Towards the end of season 3 a “sex tape” was released of Veronica and her then-boyfriend (and current boyfriend, at the start of this film) Piz. Except Veronica said she and Piz were just fooling around and didn’t actually have sex. We see the sex tape very clearly later on in the film, that has clearly been retconned. Painfully, too, as Piz is not exactly the most loved of Veronica’s boyfriends.
9) On that note...Piz.
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I cannot get into the intense dislike people have for Piz without getting into how he was written and portrayed in the final season of the TV show (which was the season he was introduced in). In a nutshell, Piz was the Nice Guy™. As in the character who in reality isn’t really a nice guy, but is sort of a privileged manipulative white dude bro who thinks he deserves to be with a woman he basically sees as the female lead in his own personal romantic comedy. But the writers still write him as the “nice guy”. The movie does not have as much of that Nice Guy™ vibe to Piz though. It’s definitely still there though. He tells Veronica that he oversold her to his parents. That, “They cannot believe I landed a creature such as the one I’ve described.” But mostly Piz is kinda sorta not an awful dude. He seems to have some genuine feelings for Veronica but you can tell Veronica is with him just because he’s the safe choice. Because this is the clean life she wants. And that’s never who she was and so Piz isn’t dating the REAL Veronica. Piz is not interested in the REAL Veronica just the kind of girl he expects her to be and wants her to be. Even if he’s not a total dick about it in the film, that’s still what their relationship is.
HOWEVER I will say even though I may have issues with Piz as a character I do truly enjoy Chris Lowell as an actor. My distaste for how Piz has been written in the past is not a reflection on his performance.
10) Veronica talks about how Bonnie DeVille used to be known as Carrie Bishop. Carrie Bishop was featured in a few season one episodes of the show played by “Gossip Girl” actress Leighton Meester. Meester had scheduling conflicts with the show so they recast her part.
11) Never ever think too hard about the timeline or continuity in the Veronica Mars universe. Like...Logan is supposed to be a different age than her but they were still in the same graduating class or his dead girlfriend was a different age because she went to school with her brother who was...just, it’s confusing to think about it too hard. Just know that this film - while released in 2014 - takes place in 2016. Because the characters graduated high school in 2006 and their ten year reunion is featured in the film.
12) The theme of addiction is heavily featured throughout the movie, mainly throughout Veronica’s internal monologue. She constantly mentions her alcoholic mother while comparing her return to Neptune and the world of a PI to that idea. Not to mention Veronica described her past self as a, “possible adrenaline junkie,” within the first five minutes of the film. It’s a neat idea that gives the film a unique arc and helps it feel more than an extended episode.
13) Logan Echolls, ladies and gentlemen.
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With most of (if not all of) these characters, it is difficult for me to talk about them ONLY as they are presented in the film. Logan is someone who throughout the TV show had a very troubled life. His father beat him, his mother committed suicide, his girlfriend was murdered, the murderer turned out to be his father, he had been manipulated by many people he considered family, but he was good to Veronica (for the most part) when they started dating. He cared for her, truly. There was an honesty to their relationship, an ability to be himself, which he lost when she left. I think the second Veronica Mars book Mr. Kiss & Tell goes into this more (I read it two years ago), but Logan needed to get his life together post-Veronica. So he joined the freaking Navy. That first image of Logan already sets him up as a clean cut, mostly kept together man that is FAR different from the, “obligatory psychotic jackass,” we met in the pilot of the show.
Much like Kristen Bell, Jason Dohring gives Logan a lot of depth. The reason the character was given such a prominent role and more layers - initially - was because of Dohring’s skill as an actor. He is able to present Logan as mostly collected but still vulnerable. Still with a deep sorrow in his soul, still with a darkness to him. But we as an audience are invested in him as a character. We understand Veronica’s trust for him because we see just who he is around Veronica. The chemistry between Dohring and Bell is incredible. It is not just hot steamy chemistry (although it can be, more on that later). It’s a trust, it’s friendship, it’s an ability for these two to truly be themselves around each other in a way they can’t be with pretty much everyone else.
It is a truly wonderful performance and character we get to see in the film and I think the entire franchise of Veronica Mars would be far less without Jason Dohring and Logan Echolls.
14) It is fun how to see how easily Veronica slips into her old routine at her dad’s office. Also it goes into the idea of how an addict is more easy to fall into their addiction when they get into a certain habit. Veronica was addicted to being a PI when she was in Neptune, working with Logan, and helping at her dad’s office. Is it any wonder she can’t fight off the need to go back to that life when she’s in the town for less than a day and all these things have happened already?
15) Keith’s face when he sees Veronica!
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We don’t get AS good a look as Keith’s relationship with daughter Veronica in the film as we did in the TV show (we got three seasons to examine it, after all), but it is still one of the best parent/child relationships to ever grace screens and the chemistry between Enrico Colantoni and Kristen Bell is great.
16) Although the film only had a budget from Kickstarter of about five million dollars, Warner Brothers studio was comfortable enough with the film that they paid an extra million (I think it was a million) for some reshoots to help make the story more understandable. The most noteworthy of these reshoots is the scene where Keith and Veronica are driving through town and discover a bunch of kids being framed up by the police, tazzed, basically abused for being “riff raff” and Keith being able to extort the police into letting the kids go by taking a video of them abusing their power. This was all told to the audience in the original shoot at the office scene, but the use of “show don’t tell” not only paints a grim picture of what kind off corrupt place Neptune is but also what kind of man Keith is. He really is - as his daughter says - the George Bailey of Neptune.
17) Mac & Wallace!
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Again, if you like what you see of these two in the movie and want more...GO WATCH THE TV SHOW! The friendship Veronica forges with Wallace is one of the strongest in her life, second only to her father and even ahead of her relationship with Logan I think. He is there through it all. Through all the boyfriends, all the drama, all the times she’s a pariah, he is there for her. He helps her out, he does favors with her, and it is just such a beautiful and loving friendship.
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The relationship Veronica has with Mac - while not necessarily as strong - is still great. Tina Majorino breathed such life into this character from season 1 who could’ve easily been a one off but ended up being second only to Wallace when it came to Veronica’s friends. The trio of them are great, and they’ve always got each other’s backs.
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18) Dick Casablancas.
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Otherwise known as: your problematic fave! Man, I don’t even know where to start with Dick. He’s...well...he’s a dick! But like a likable dick! Somehow Rob Thomas gets away with Dick doing some really awful shit in the show and still have him be Logan’s best friend. Dick in this film is - I think - mostly comedic relief (and, at one point, a suspect) and Hansen is just a lot of fun in the role.
A little note about Dick though. This line has way more significance than you would think:
Dick [after Logan’s potential lawyer makes a remark about his pot brownies]: “Medicine, man. I got my card. Chronic depression. You wouldn’t think, huh?”
That’s actually very telling about Dick. Season two ended with his younger brother being revealed as a mass murderer before killing himself, and there was some fair amount of time devoted in early season three to examining how Dick dealt with this.
19) This scene alone shows a lot of fun back and forth between Veronica, Logan, and the idiots of Neptune.
Logan [after these two Canadian drunks call a girl a crazy bitch at karaoke night]:
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20) Again with the theme of addiction:
Veronica [internal monologue]: “You know what? It’s a one time deal. A farewell tour, if you will. [Sees hot as fuck Logan] Then again, you ever hear the one about the junkie who was satisfied with just one more taste of the good stuff?”
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Veronica: “Neither have I.”
21) Chekov’s random trucker hat line...
Veronica [about being able to hide cameras in anything]: “My dad has a trucker hat that’s rigged with a camera -”
22) There’s this rule Pixar has with writing: a coincidence that gets the character into trouble is plot. A coincidence that gets them out of trouble is cheating. The fact that Veronica is able to get into someone’s house by saying she’s doing a location scout for a Clint Eastwood movie only for that person to have a connection to Clint Eastwood falls into the former of those two categories.
23) This film THRIVES on fan service which also serves the plot. For example, Veronica - like she did all the way back in season one - calls Wallace for a favor.
Veronica: “Hey Buddy! I need a favor. Can you get me a student’s permanent file?”
Wallace: “You do realize that I’m a teacher now, Veronica? An educator? This is a position of responsibility.”
Veronica: “So you’re saying it’s gonna be super easy. Good. I did NOT want to put you out.”
The theater I saw this in - with quite a few Marshmallows - all found this scene hysterical.
24) The inclusion of Deputy Sacks is a nice way of bringing in even what some would call the smaller characters into the film. AND it ends up working out really well.
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25) Jerry O’Connell as Sheriff Dan Lamb.
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The perfect personification of slime and corruption in Neptune. Lamb’s brother Don Lamb was the incompetent (and assholish prick of a) sheriff throughout most of the show, and somehow they made his brother even worse. At least Don Lamb would OCCASIONALLY do his job if presented with enough compelling evidence. Meanwhile Dan is even more egotistical, even says at one point he doesn’t care if Logan is innocent or not, and later in all likelihood tries to have Keith killed. Jerry O’Connell plays Lamb as wonderfully vile. A villain you love to hat.
26) I love that this film brings in so many memorable characters from the TV show, even though some are limited to one scene. But that one scene is enough for us to remember why we love them. This is very true for Daran Norris as Cliff McCormack, Neptune’s resident public appointed attorney.
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27) It is interesting seeing how these characters have grown in the seven years since the TV show ended. For example, Veronica is able to show off QUITE clearly that she spent a considerable amount of time at law school when she’s defending herself at the police station.
28) The whole scene at the 09er is very entertaining, if for no other reason than a trio of fun cameos we get. We see exactly the stupidity of the “cool kids” at Neptune, we get the series’ first use of the word, “fuck,” AND we get Veronica’s trademark sass. Also we get this nice moment between husband & wife:
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29) But the 09er scene is NOTHING compared to the reunion at Neptune High.
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The entire graduation scene perfectly shows off the film’s ability to balance out fan service AND move the plot forward. It brings back almost all the memorable characters from the TV show, friends and enemies a like. And for you who haven’t seen the show, we get a very clear picture of just how much Veronica “enjoyed” high school.
Veronica: “In a lesser known epic poem, ‘Dante’s Inferno 2: Hell Freezes Over,’ ten years after escaping the nine circles, Dante returns. You know, for old times’ sake. Have a couple shots, catch up with the gang...”
Madison [as Veronica approaches]: “Name?”
Veronica: “See if Lucifer’s still a bitch.”
We get a see of characters in this scene.
Madison Sinclair is still an entitled, judgmental, condescending asshole.
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Gia Goodman (played by the incredible Krysten Ritter of “Jessica Jones” fame) is REMARKABLY different from the last time we saw her. Back then she was a chipper, positive (if a little naive) young woman. Then Veronica exposed her dad as a pedophile to the world, he was killed by Dick’s brother in a plane explosion, and some really awful psychotic shit went down where she is basically owned by a man named Cobb (Martin Starr). Gia is likely the most changed character since the TV show and Ritter’s amazing range supports that.
Eli ‘Weevil’ Navarro has gotten his life together, which is an incredible thing to see from the former member of a bike gang. He has a daughter, he has a wife, he is reformed! But of course Neptune is gonna tear him back down.
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We even get a chance to see Horny, the recurring comic relief and nice dude from the show, in a little moment which I as a fan appreciate.
Edit: I have had it pointed out to me that the character’s name is Corny, not Horny is I’ve thought for four years. You can find the reply in notes, but I’m going to leave the name as I originally thought so you all know my shame.
30) The high school reunion also serves as a turning point for the story. Veronica realizes that Carrie’s death is tied to the death of her friend Susan Knight YEARS ago on Carrie’s father’s boat. And now her investigation has some more direction.
31) When you watch the works of Rob Thomas (the writer, not the singer) you find he is wonderfully aware of his famous name-twin.
Piz [about talking about some 2006 music]: “Maybe some SOLO Rob Thomas.”
That’s nothing compared to what we got on “iZombie” though.
32) I love this.
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33) A great peek at how Veronica is not as alone as she may think is after Madison (asshole) shows Veronica’s sex tape at the family reunion. For one thing Wallace is immediately at Veronica’s side, running to turn it off. Then Wallace, Logan, Weevil, Dick, and Piz (at least. Maybe Horny too, I’m not sure.) all jump into a fight with the assholes who want to put the tape back on. A great recall from this line:
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34) Principal Clemmons is another example of a great supporting character from the show making a brief but appreciate appearance in the film.
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35) Veronica at the reunion’s after-party is very much her being in her natural environment. The scene where she’s dancing and it cuts to slow mo is very predatory to me. She is a lion ready to pounce on its prey. This is her in her element and its great to watch.
36) Martin Starr as Cobb is a...unique new character in the film. He was not in the show at all and now he’s part of the group of established characters. In hindsight it’s obvious that he’s the evil mastermind of it all (spoiler alert).
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37) Veronica impersonating Martina Vasquez to get info out of Lamb is as nice callback to the series while also showing new viewers just how crafty she can be.
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38) Leo!!!!
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Leo was like the best boyfriend Veronica had on the show who wasn’t Logan, an actual nice guy and not Nice Guy™. Max Greenfield has gotten a lot more recognition lately for his memorable turn as Schmidt on “New Girl” but he’s GREAT on the show and in this film. He only has one scene but it’s a bit bigger than say Cliff’s scene or Clemmons’ scene, and him screwing with Veronica by pretending to not remember her is a lot of fun.
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Leo: “By the way, I didn’t know the FBI was looking into the Bonnie DeVille case.”
Veronica: “I’m not with the FBI.”
Leo: “You sure? I could’ve SWORN I heard somewhere that you were in the FBI.”
Veronica: “Another life maybe.”
Rob Thomas pitched a drastically altered version of the show which would have seen Veronica join the FBI in season 4. I’m kinda glad it didn’t work it, but they shot this pitch:
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40) So James Franco is in this movie.
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Rob Thomas said in an interview:
"My producing partner, Danielle Stokdyk, her husband is an Academy Award-winning visual effects artist who happened to have just done 'Oz the Great and Powerful.' He had become friendly with James, and it really was easy as this: I emailed a script and said we'd love you for this part and honestly five minutes later, five minutes later, he emailed me back and said, 'sounds fun, I'm in.'"
41) Add Vinnie Van Lowe to the list of fun appearances from the show!
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42) According to IMDb:
In one of the shots, a man dressed like a gorilla was needed to dance in the foreground while Kristen Bell and Ken Marino played a scene on a bench. Ryan Hansen had just wrapped his last scene in the film a few hours earlier and was hanging out on set and agreed to do the scene. Rob Thomas and Ryan then decided to prank Kristen and Ken, who didn't know it was Ryan in the gorilla suit. The stint made the DVD bloopers reel.
43) Veronica cannot say, “I know what happened,” without me thinking of this:
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44) Chekov’s random trucker hat line.
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45) This line that Deputy Sacks has is very telling about who he is as a character, his conflict, and what is up in Neptune.
Sacks: “I saw this thing on, uh, YouTube a few weeks ago, Keith. It’s a funny video. A...uh...two nazi they’re uh...looking at the skulls on their insignias and the piles of dead bodies. And they have this moment of clarity. Wait a minute...we’re the bad guys.”
46) Deputy Sacks’ death is a surprisingly powerful moment. This is a character who has been around since the pilot in 2004. Someone who was always there and who Veronica or anyone else never got super close to. But he was always there, always a good cop, and the sorrow of his loss is seen in one simple unanswered question:
Doctor: “Was he a friend of yours?”
47) The following LoVe love scene (LoVe is the ship name for Logan + Veronica) really shows off how these two not only have a chemistry built on being able to be themselves, but also the fact they’re each INCREDIBLY attracted to each other and just have this raw sexy passion. There is a tenderness, a connection, a heat to them that is just unmatched by any of her other boyfriends.
48) Remember how Veronica is sort of an addict?
Veronica: “The only way I’m not going to spend the day obsessing about my dad is by nailing Gia and Luke to the wall.”
49) One of Veronica’s most defining character traits is that when she decides a person is guilty, they are guilty. And it takes a lot for her to alter her theory or her idea of what is going on. This is seen when she is watching Gia and Cobb hook up, and she comments...
Veronica: “Gia seduced her lap dog into killing Carrie.”
There is NOTHING about that scene that shows Gia initiating sex with Cobb, it’s totally Cobb doing it. But Veronica can’t see that, she only sees what supports her theory. And then there’s this line that shows what she thinks of Gia.
Veronica [after Logan warns her to be careful]: “Child please, it’s Gia Goodman. The day I can’t handle Gia Goodman...”
This is very much a line that would be applied to high school Gia, not this new Gia. Veronica has little to no idea who this new Gia is.
50) The following scene between Veronica and Gia is a great character moment for Gia. Krysten Ritter’s skills as an actor show us just how tortured and trapped this once kindhearted and positive girl was, and it’s heartbreaking.
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51) The entire climax (where Cobb has Veronica trapped in Gia’s apartment building) is very tense. Cobb has the upper hand physically and Veronica knows that. She has to play this confrontation by hiding, being patient, and outsmarting Cobb. And she does! It is wonderfully paced and choreographed and just a great moment of tension.
52) My biggest criticism of this film is that I’m always surprised by how quickly it wraps up, but it’s also something I’ve gotten more comfortable with in repeat viewings.
53) The metaphor of Veronica as an addict has never been clearer than her last lines of the film (an internal monologue).
Veronica: “My name is Veronica, and I’m an addict. Hello Veronica.”
54) Logan often had inspirational messages on his voice mail in the show. This message which plays over the end credits is very nice.
Logan: “This is Logan reminding you: if you’re offered a seat on a rocket ship, don’t ask which seat, just get on. Sheryl Sandberg said that. So don’t leave a message. Go get on that rocket ship. Or, leave a message. Your call. Your decision will tell me a lot about you.”
That - to me - seems very telling about the film. They took a chance on asking fans to finance it and it turned out wonderfully! They got on their rocket.
This recap ended up being much longer than I intended. And there’s still a lot here I can talk about which I haven’t. And that is very telling of the film. There is a lot to dissect, a lot that works and is going on in the movie. The writing is incredible, with a good balance of fan service and plot. The acting is as good as it ever was on the show, Rob Thomas’ direction is great, and it is just what fans who were waiting seven years for closure deserved. A great, great film and a fantastic potential finale to the series.
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Marco/Janna Speculations based on Star and Marco’s Guide to Mastering Every Dimension
I will be going crazy with the shipping speculations, turning the tiniest little details into gigantic sweeping claims, so don’t take any of this too seriously.
Revelations
Before going crazy with speculations, let’s review some of the base facts given by the book Star and Marco’s Guide to Mastering Every Dimension. Some of these we already knew from past episodes, but some are completely new.
Here they are, organized by source, with numbers to identify references to past episodes.
According to the school yearbook:
Full legal name is Janna Ordonia
According to Star, Janna:
is into witchy stuff and thinks what Star does is witchy
feels at home at the Diaz house and eats their food
likes black magic, daggers, dead-clown seances, the night, street wizards, the color pink [1]
has a crush on nineteenth-century poet John Keats [1]
has a snake eating its own tail (ouroboros) as her spirit animal
is “bananas” (crazy)
According to Marco, Janna:
“flirts with me and makes creepy comments about calling her after my divorce.” [2]
According to Janna herself, she
does not believe in love at first sight
likes raising the dead and thinks a dead guy who raises himself is “a keeper”
encourages getting to know spirit guides/ghosts for seances [3]
encourages the occasional sleep in a grave [3]
believes Marco is not “ready to date someone as fierce as me.”
went on a date with Bernardo, the skeleton she met in the Dimension of Wonders and Amazements, [4] to an underground crypt
sees her body as “an occult temple” and so never touches any drink harder than a cranberry juice cocktail
will never date Bernardo again for unsaid reasons
References to Past Episodes:
Sleepover
Naysaya
Bon Bon the Birthday Clown
Interdimensional Field Trip
Right, now that the facts are out of the way, let’s go crazy with wild speculations.
Speculations
One easy speculation that a lot of people have jumped on is that Janna has Filipino ancestry, based on the fact Ordonia is a Filipino surname. But this of course can go in all sorts of difference directions: the ancestry could be near or remote, she could have diverse ancestry beyond just the surname, etc.
Ultimately, I’m not too interested in imagining scenarios based around any ancestry, as I don’t think it very relevant to Janna’s personality or character.
And besides, let’s be honest here, what we all really want is crazy shipping speculations. So let’s dive on in.
Marco openly classifies what Janna does with him as “flirting.” If Marco takes it as “flirting,” we as the audience are pretty safe in considering it “flirting” as well. So, in other words,
JANNA FLIRTS WITH MARCO.
“Oh, but that doesn’t mean anything,” a few hold-outs might cry. “People flirt all the time just for fun, even married people.”
Perhaps, but part of what makes flirting popular and fun is that it is all about playing with tension that is there but not openly acknowledged. Flirting signals that the people involved find one another attractive and appealing, while still maintaining plausible deniability so as to not commit oneself fully. So, it could be argued that that flirting always means something, but everyone pretends that it means nothing, and that pretending in of itself is what creates much of the meaning.
The main takeaway speculation then, is that Janna finds Marco attractive. But to be blunt, most of us should have already been arguing for that from the butt-slap in ‘Bon Bon the Birthday Clown.’
“Oh, but even if she thinks he’s attractive, it doesn’t mean anything,” the hold-outs might say. “Just look at how Janna went on a date with Bernardo the skeleton.”
In which case I might turn their own previous argument back on them and point out that dating is basically flirting, part 2: more openly acknowledging that they find one another attractive, but still keeping some level of plausible deniability to prevent commitment too fast, hence “friend dates” and “first dates that went nowhere.”
But I will not use that argument, because there’s a much better one: Janna’s remark “And Marco wasn’t ready to date someone as fierce as me.”
Janna feels the need to justify why she is dating Bernardo instead of Marco.
Why would she feel the need to make that justification unless she actually cared a lot about Marco?
And Janna specifically frames it as Marco not being ready for her, which as any experienced flirt knows, is a common flirting tactic: make it seem like any potential barriers to a relationship are due to the other party, to make oneself appear more appealing. So even when talking about dating someone else, Janna still somehow manages to flirt with Marco.
In any case, we are told that Janna will never date Bernardo again, in such a way as to imply something went very badly between them, but without any details at all. Once again, I’m not too keen on trying to speculate here, because the possibilities are endless.
Now as an interlude before jumping into another big speculation block, a few brief, smaller, miscellaneous speculations:
Janna claims that she does not believe in love at first sight. Well, it just so happens that Janna and Marco have a long history together, so that all works out quite well, doesn’t it?
Janna calls her body “an occult temple” and does not drink. It is probably safe to speculate that despite her delinquent attitudes, she avoids drugs.
Janna is reported to feel at home at the Diaz residence and eat their food, encouraging speculation that she has history visiting and staying there. Honestly, at this point, how can the series not have Janna and Marco turn out to be childhood friends? It would be a catastrophic letdown.
Back to the big crazy speculations, let’s talk about Janna specifically, about her personality and character.
Namely, I wish to make the staggering and remarkable claim that Janna is not so different from the stereotypical young teenage girl that she works so hard to defy: I suggest that Janna is at a crossroads in her life and struggling with issues of identity.
Now, I don’t mean to suggest that she secretly cries and moans about existential angst in the privacy of her own room. It is perfectly possible for a maturing young woman to suffer through self-identity without making a big deal about it or even being consciously aware of it. Compare for example Marco’s relatively restrained existentialism, or Star’s own strain of denial.
I speculate that Janna, for whatever reason, feels an obligation to act a certain way and fit into a certain identity. Take for example her love of pink but dislike of admitting so because she doesn’t want to fit the gender stereotype. I speculate that this not only applies to her color opinions, but also to many other attributes about Janna: she ends up being exaggerating or downplaying certain things about herself as she tries to define her own identity.
This is not to say that things like her love of “witchy things” is not genuine, but rather that certain parts of it get played up, that she is emphasizing certain specific parts of herself at the expense of other parts.
Consider the revelation that her crush is the late poet John Keats. (On a side note, the fact that John Keats is a renowned poet suggests we should classify this as one of those “celebrity crushes” that doesn’t particularly mean that much.) Perhaps Janna feels the need to reinforce her self-perception of identity by choosing to crush on a dead celebrity. And perhaps it is due to her need to reinforce her self-perception is why she chooses to emphasize the dead part instead of, say, the romantic poet part.
Perhaps Janna might think that things like love and dating are unbecoming of her, that her self-image of defying gender stereotypes, of loving occult things, of being “fierce,” means that romance is not for her. And perhaps such thoughts are in fact a massive self-denial of a very important part of herself: she loves pink, and her celebrity crush was a romantic poet who wrote extensively on the theme of obsessive love. Perhaps, deep down, part of her deeply craves for a stereotypical “pinkish” sort of romance, but she feels such a desire is in conflict with the other parts of her.
And perhaps that is why she tried dating a skeleton and talked about marriage with a dead guy in the book: she thinks this is the only way to reconcile the two different parts of herself. But this is a very shallow attempt at reconciliation that cannot really work out in the long run (probably why it didn’t work out with Bernardo). Janna will need to sort through a few personal things before she can really have it both ways.
I am sure that there will be many who say I am overthinking this, and seeing stuff that is not there. Perhaps I am, but I don’t think it is a bad thing if I am. These speculations make characters more complex and interesting in my view, and I believe most people would agree; consider the popularity of “find someone who can do both” jokes.
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