#tbdm

[ghostwriterofthemachine]

Hello friends, help me out with something, would you?

Please feel free to elaborate in the tags about anything because I want to hear it, but please give me an actual "why" answer. "It just feels weird" or "it's something freaks do" are not actual "why" answers and doesn't help me get the information I'm trying to get.

Please reblog for sample size <3

[s-e-c-t-i-o-n-8]

[sha666y]

[analogstack]

Sorry about the Black Dahlia spam. But also have you considered listening to them?

[satanic-funeral]

Realized my vest isn't represented much, anyway, i'm almost always representing the MEN of the death metal scene

[arcanepigeon82820]

License Plates Up On My Ceiling Telling Me Where I'm Headed Towards

Getting more into songwriting/ expanding poetry (I will upload some stuff soon! :D)

In the meantime enjoy some cRYpt1c titles and some of my finest usage of picsart (yes i envy the 2000s -_- and adore puppet combo :3)

will probs upload ps3 stuff here as well lol

also me btw

[iamfuckingsorry]

Hi again everyone! I've been meaning to get back to this and make a more comprehensive summary of the results, but life is kinda meh at the moment, so while I read every single note on this post when the poll was still running I haven't had the energy to actually sit down and summarize the results. I also realized basically the moment I posted this poll that the options are not that good - as clearly shown by the 7.8% in the "other/more nuance" category, comprising some 40% of all the non-English answers. In fact it doesn't even cover all the options for the languages I speak myself! But oh well, it is what it is.

Below is an attempt at summarizing all the comments this post got in one place, with a basic explanation of the linguistic context of each language. I am not a linguist by any means and while I'm vaguely familiar with many European languages by the virtue of speaking languages from several different language groups, I did also make guesses and assumptions and short google searches, so please please do correct me if anything I've written is blatantly incorrect. I am also not familiar with what kind of language non-binary/agender people choose to in basically any country other than the one I currently live in (and to some extent in English, I guess), so again apologies for any inaccuracies and feel free to correct me. And yes, I've taken the liberty to comment on some of the translator's choices, be warned.

With that out of the way, here we go. Ordered by language groups, ish:

-Swedish: uses "hen" - a gender neutral pronoun used exclusively for people and never for things, approximately equivalent to singular they in English. As far as I'm aware it's not quite a traditional pronoun, but also not quite a neopronoun - it was first suggested in the 60s, took off in the early 00s, and was officially codified in 2015, but is not longer that widely used (yay transphobia). For context, Swedish has two grammatical genders but they're common and neuter (so both "gender neutral", kinda), not masculine and feminine. Other than that Swedish isn't a very gendered language, so there's no issues with verb forms etc. Choosing a pronoun exclusively associated with people instead of one of the "it" forms is an interesting choice.

-Danish: Danish is grammatically extremely similar to Swedish, down to the common and neuter grammatical genders and non-gendered verb forms. Danish does also have the gender-neutral pronoun "hen", but it's not used nearly as often as in Swedish. In the translation the translator instead chose to use "den", which is the "it" form for common gender nouns. This is the perfect choice imho.

-Polish: uses "ono/jego" - as far as I'm aware this is a kind of relatively new usage of traditional language forms to convey being outside the gender binary. Polish has 3 main grammatical genders (masculine, feminine, neuter) for nouns, normally uses he/she when referring to people, and importantly also changes the forms of verbs depending on the (real or grammatical) gender of the speaker/subject, which makes it hard af to speak ungendered. "Ono" is the neuter pronoun and roughly equivalent to "it", and is normally mainly used to refer to objects. Because of this, the first person verb forms ("I did", "I said" etc) are not traditionally used for this grammatical gender. Many Polish non-binary people however choose to use these forms when speaking about themselves. With regards to ono/jego specifically, some of the words look the same for neuter and masculine forms, and ono/jego enby people (including mb in this translation) use these forms. Some non-binary Polish speakers apparently choose to replace the word forms where masculine and neuter forms are the same with specifically feminine forms instead, and these people would not use ono/jeho as their pronouns but ono/jej. Some people in the comments felt like this wasn't the best choice since the only people using this system are people intentionally choosing to make a statement/choosing to take extra steps to remove themselves from the binary, and as a speaker of a different but similar Slavic language I kinda agree.

-Czech: masculine pronouns etc, used the same way you'd refer to a human man, not the way you'd refer to a masculine-gender object. Czech works basically the same as Polish grammatically, so unfortunately it's basically impossible to find a better option that also reads naturally to your average reader and this is the easy way out. As much as it pains me to say this, I do think this makes the reading experience for an average reader (especially one who hasn't read the original) much better than choosing to use "it" consistently - but of course, it does lose a part of what makes mb so interesting.

-Russian: treated basically the same way as in Czech according to what I was able to find. Though apparently ART's feminine in Russian...

-Portuguese: mostly defaults to masculine pronouns since the main noun used for mb, equivalent to "bot", is masculine. Portuguese has masculine and feminine nouns, so "i am your secunit" would use the feminine word "secunit", but they mostly seem to use masculine nouns for mb. Afaik there's no non-gendered "it" in Portuguese, there's different "it" versions for masculine and feminine nouns.

-Spanish: similar to Portuguese from what I can tell.

-Italian: analogous to Portuguese and Spanish, but the default word for mb is grammatically feminine, so mb's mostly referred to using feminine pronouns/adjectives.

-French: uses the gender-neutral neopronoun "iel" as mb's pronoun. For context, French works similarly to Portuguese etc when it comes to grammatical genders. They still have gendered adjectives and I do now know how exactly that works if using gender-neutral pronouns/language - might need to do more digging because I wanna know if they default to masculine adjective forms or if there's a neo gender-neutral version of that too. Murderbot is also translated as "AssaSynth" which is absolutely brilliant and I think y'all need to know about this.

-German: German has three grammatical genders (masculine, feminine, neuter) and some more complicated grammar, but in general the solution is similar to Portuguese/Spanish/Italian - pronouns depend on the noun of choice. Both "unit" (feminine) and "bot" (masculine) are used.

-Japanese: Japanese is a fairly ungendered language in the sense that the word forms generally change based on other status signifiers than pure gender. The translator apparently made up a new pronoun used specifically for mb (and also another one for three). I know very little about Japanese beyond what little I remember from my teens as a weeb, so I'll just leave some links here.

-Turkish: an inherently ungendered language, so mb just uses the same words as everyone else.

So I've recently realized that murderbot's been translated into my native language and it's apparently a he in the translation (which admittedly makes sense, because it's a heavily gendered language and 1. gender-neutral language doesn't really exist in general and 2. "bot" and all the related words - I believe they use "droid" for mb in the translation - are grammatically masculine).

It made me curious how it's been handled in other translations though!

*e.g. being referred to by multiple gendered nouns/pronouns depending on the context, like both "bot" (masculine) and "machine" (feminine).

[corek1d-dan]

I am so excited for download. The line up is so good, Avenged, Dying Fetus, Machine Head, Pantera, TBDM, TAIM, Fear Factory ughhhh I could go on and on.

[ghostwriterofthemachine]

loooooove a good ao3 deep dive. fics from 2011 my beloved. archived fics from 2003 my beloved.

[explosionshark]

"Brandishing the Blade" by Undeath @ The Constellation Room - 09/27/24 Santa Ana, CA

New album More Insane out 10/04

[ghostsfrom1988]

I'm trying to be fair about it even though I'm obviously still fucking angry. Idk. Maybe it's just too little too late. Because if it's a pattern that I literally only get taken seriously when I freak the fuck out why is it healthy for me to continue that pattern. Maybe I'll feel better when the episodes over. Or maybe I'll just give up. I understand a "schedule" was them trying their best to fix thing but God what am I supposed to say to that "hooray romance isn't dead"?? They're to try for a few days to Maybe a few weeks and forget about it like they did to me last year and the months since. I don't want to fucking hear about it i want it Proven. It's the same feeling as someone telling you they're getting you the Xbox and then canceling christmas altogether.

And realistically. Who regularly fronts right now that's actually dating outside of our system. Jamie hardly fronts. Grey outright doesn't want to. Niko doesn't want to either. Rodneys getting there. So. Officially, who's actually dating. So maybe WERE the asshole for expecting too much. Maybe it's just Grey still being 'sore' about them texting other people but maybe it's not that serious and were not as exclusive as we thought. Maybe we really are just fucking stupid for trying to wait patiently to feel like were Also part of this relationship and not just a wallet and dick and that's why they never consider any part of what We like and ask for. And like I understand shyness and inexperience or whatever else but it being exactly the same after over a year is just a lack of effort and probably an unwillingness to try like their addicted to their phone and google is free and yet?????

But no they probably think we're being fucking stupid and overdramatic because Its Just Sex and Lola's just wants to be the center of attention and everything's about her and blah blah blah as if she doesn't fucking exist BDCAUSE WERE NEGLECTED. like no Shit she wants to crawl into a hole.and die. And I only exist because of how badly she wanted someone Anyine to want her Last year.

God. I was looking forward to writing. Now.im in too much pain to and she's crying too hard to breathe out our nose. At least giving unto the hypergraphia for a bit makes me.feel better

Someone. Not me. But quite a few someones. Still wants to spend our lives together but. *i* say Maybe it's unrealistic if This is what it looks like And i have to be a goddamn caregiver. If they're not into us they probably won't mind being friends. It's not like *we* would get anymore pent up a lack of anything following

I dislike being able to feel love. It makes me feel stupid. Unsure how normal people do this

Adding because she feels better afger crying again. All and all they're a big dork and lucky we love them enough to Be Patient and some people think it's a little cute they're actually trying but I say that's bare minumum. Regardless of how we feel right now we're not breaking up so I just have to ride out the current insanity. Grumble grumble stupidnthings you do for love grumble

[septic-9mil]

BLACK DAHLIA MURDER PATCH!!!!

Yes I know it's off center I am beating myself up about it LOL but like. I'm so proud

[nihiltism]

people keep raving about tbdm I'm gonna go thru their discography and see if I like em

[threedaysofdarkness]

This was me just testing outfits with the new Tbdm merch that I bought with the new record... Sorry for the mess