#tali being funny

[technically-human]

Partner is a difficult word to translate

[aspider-whore]

my first contribution to the arcane fandom

[disastersappho]

arcane alignment charts pt 2

[hypnic-j3rk]

more jayvik shenanigans for y'all's entertainment

[homuraakemis]

I know that when fandom gets carried away with a joke, there's really no stopping it. And I know a lot of people will tell me that it's not that deep or that I'm being a killjoy for even mentioning this. But I don't think Vi and Jayce are dumb together.

Their first time working together is to take down the shimmer factory. I really don't see anything dumb in this. Vi is right: Silco controls the Undercity with shimmer, and striking his main source of power and money is a way to diminish his power and influence. It is, in fact, the exact same thing the strike team does in season 2, trying to take down shimmer and the chem-barons. I know people will have their misgivings about the risk of collateral damage, given that these factories work on child labor, and the fact that Jayce accidentally killed a child. But there's nothing “dumb” about the idea of taking down shimmer factories, and the mission wasn't a failure. It's just that Jayce didn't want to keep going after the child's death, but they did manage to take down that factory, and the plan could have worked if Jayce decided to continue. Again, whatever misgivings people might have about the collateral damage, there's nothing "dumb” or "failed” in how Vi and Jayce worked together. (I guess one could argue that Jayce shouldn't be there since he is not a trained fighter, but that's on Jayce for deciding to come. How does that make Vi dumb?)

Then, the only other moment Vi and Jayce work together is the attack on the memorial. And again, I don't see anything dumb at all in what happened. Vi going back to get Jayce's hammer was an intelligent decision: the gauntlets were broken, and they were at a huge disadvantage, trying to fight shimmer tanks with normal weapons in a fight where they were completely caught by surprise. Having a hextech weapon would have helped them in that fight. The only reason it ended up being unnecessary is because Ambessa interfered and ended the fight (because Ambessa is the one that staged everything in the first place). But Vi had no way of knowing that the attack was orchestrated by Ambessa and that Ambessa was coming to put an end to it. For all she knew, that was an independent attack, and the attack could have gone on for a longer time. Having Jayce's hammer would have helped immensely. Finally, I know that Jayce and Vi missed the shot on that chem-tank. But what a lot of people love to ignore is that the only reason they missed is because Ambessa came in at the exact moment and shot that tank down, which is what made them miss. If Ambessa hadn't interfered, they wouldn't have missed. And if you think about it, even this might have been intentional by Ambessa: she orchestrated the attack in order to further escalate the tension between Piltover and Zaun. The last thing she would have wanted is for a Piltovian and a Zaunite working together to be the big heroes. Not only that, but she wanted herself to come out as the hero of the day, as a way to gain the trust of the people of Piltover, so she wouldn't want Vi and Jayce stealing the spotlight from her. So, in conclusion, Vi and Jayce wouldn't have failed if Ambessa didn't intentionally make them fail.

There's nothing here to suggest that they are dumb together or that they would always be failures when working together in other circumstances. Especially considering that we only see them work together twice.

(By the way, I'm not trying to stop anyone from continuing with their bookstreet jokes. To each their own. I simply wanted to post this because I haven't seen anyone actually talk about their scenes together beyond surface level jokes)

[starrycassi]

Fic concept

Tittle: The Battered Husband.

Premise: Jayce Talis is a well-known, well-loved name in Piltover. Viktor tends to forget the uglier side of this facet involves the multiple cameras breathing down his neck every time he dares step a foot out of their lab. He, also, thinks himself hilarious.

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Jayce wakes up. As soon as he does, something is wrong. His phone is making so many different sounds that he briefly wonders if he's having a stroke. Ping after ping after call after ping after that horrible sound outlook makes after call. Blindly, he stumbles out of bed. Someone's knocking at the door. That's what woke him up, he realizes. It sounds quite important. They're practically breaking down his door. Half-awake now, he throws in a quick robe and rushes to open.

The punch to the stomach that Caitlyn gives definitely gets him wide awake. Crouching down over his wooden floor, hugging his abdomen while trying to gasp for air, his sister's voice sends a cold chill down his spine. Caitlyn is not often enraged with him, but when she is... well. His floor is quite cold.

"Why in heaven's name am I getting so many complaints about my family's money and names being used to support the endeavors of an abusive husband? Do you know how many calls my mom is dodging as of right now? Since when are you abusive? Since when are you a husband? I'm going to kill you, you filthy, secret-keeping, mononeuronal hound! How could you do this to Viktor! He looks so heartbroken on that video, you-"

Gripping at his robe tighter as his lungs finally start collaborating again, he can't help but roll his eyes. Of course. Of cours, the one time. The ONE time Viktor decides to be funny outside of the lab. That is the time the press decides to publish about them both. Of fucking course.

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How is he supposed to say "this is all a big misunderstanding" to his Very Angry sister who he knows first hand is actually quite good at karate, without getting a hit to the nose, next? ...And where did the husband part come from?

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Pros:

would be funny as fuck

Explores my two fav hcs for jayvik rn: the whole "Viktor dropping his cane and blaming Jayce for it" + the one about people thinking them married because of Viktor's name being written next to Jayce's making people assume they're Mr. And Mr. Talis.

I would get to make Jayce suffer.

Could have so many Cait + Vik interactions. So many.

Cons

Not quite sure if joking about domestic violence would be well received by the public and not quite thrilled for the prospect of being doxxed. I mean I was raised in a horribly toxic household which makes me a victim but idk people have been treated worse for less.

I genuinely Don't see how they would clear this up. Yes part of the comedy would be seeing Jayce dig himself a deeper and deeper hole but idk how to get him Out of that hole eventually.

Viktor goes "we are not even married" and Piltover hears "this man is using me for my body and refuses to give me his health insurance."

"Jayce is actually quite sweet" turns into "he regularly kicks puppies in the street"

Idk. I have too many drafts already. Help. I'm drowning on em.

[thanakite]

If we had more episodes of Arcane I would hope that one of the scenes included would have been one where someone (I'm not positive who exactly would be best for this, but SOMEONE) ripped Cassandra Kiramman a new asshole over the fact that Marcus was a corrupt sheriff who utilized her demands to fire her daughter as an excuse to do just that since Caitlyn was poking into things that would have exposed Marcus himself on top of Silco and those connected to him (because let's be real here, Jayce said Caitlyn's parents had ensured that Marcus fired her, but Cassandra is the one we see with power in Piltover and it is indicated that Cassandra used her power as a councilor to mess with Caitlyn's work as an Enforcer before, and really it is her word that carried weight (as a councilor) enough for it to be a legitimate reason for Marcus to fire Caitlyn, while we don't see any of that for Tobias)

I don't know for sure that they'd actually do it even with more time, but not only would I have loved that (at least at minimum some kind of reprimand over it) just because I think such a thing is well deserved, but also like that whole thing was all such a shit show

The Council is obviously tremendously unhappy about Marcus's betrayal and really they kind of only barely scratch the surface of what his corruption truly meant, but all things considered if Caitlyn hadn't been as determined as she is/was then Marcus could have continued on hiding the truth from them for YEARS longer, allowing SO MUCH corruption through all the while, on top of whatever he helped Silco facilitate and whatever came from that

At the same time, if she had instead chosen to fully support/back Caitlyn in her decision to become an Enforcer and the work she was doing with them, then maybe Caitlyn could have gotten more support and resources in her investigation and she could have uncovered the truth about Marcus sooner and in a potentially less dangerous/deadly manner which would have likely been helpful both short and long term

By using her position as she did (and not supporting her daughter in the profession she obviously considered her dream job) she furthered a fairly involved, extreme, and deeply vital piece of corruption in Piltover, and while that might not have been her base intention it doesn't change the results and in many years ways was an abuse of power itself so I do firmly believe that either another Councilor or maybe Vi should have very firmly called her out for this shit and made it abundantly clear why this was not the right thing to do for Piltover nor her daughter

[stealerofthe2ndbraincell]

I'm happy that more people seem to like Jayce, or are willing to try to get him, post S2.

Cause the S1 Arcane atmosphere was so weird in regards to him in particular, at least.

Not only was he probably one of the most hated characters, he seemed to not even be on the level where people would try to understand why someone liked him at all. Weird.

He definitely wasn't my favourite back in S1, but it felt like he had a nice grounded appeal in comparison to a lot of the cast. He felt like a very realistic product of this wild universe back then. :)

[technically-human]

This happened, it just wasn't relevant to the plot

[smolstarthief]

Sooo... I guess my AU is getting more fleshed out than I expected b/c now I'm gonna consider incorporating P3/P4 Arena/Ultimax elements into it! Namely the Shadow Ops and some of the lore. Buckle up guys! Also I can't thank @dancingpurge enough for giving me insights whenever I have questions since my knowledge on P3 is slim and very rusty admittedly!

So... Here's what I was thinking:

Jayce starts to grow worried when he notices that Viktor's health gets bad when he uses his Arcane abilities too much. Especially when he slowly stops resting in-between.

Part of the reason for lack of rest is primarily being him secretly exploring Maruki's Palace after first encountering it and his powers were his best form of defense. Even before that though, he has slowly started getting excessive with it (especially upon discovering that he CAN use it in the real world and not just limited to the Metaverse like they initially thought).

While Viktor gets more invested in Cognitive Psience (especially after he starts regularly meeting Maruki), Jayce starts to dive into more about the Metaverse and any other forms of research involving it in a bid to find a way to help him.

This rabbit hole leads to him discovering info about the Kirijo Group and rumors about human experimentation along with the Dark Hour. As horrified as he feels about that, he thinks the current head (Mitsuru) is his best lead to maybe helping Viktor.

He was able to arrange a meeting after some hurdles (basically proving that he's trustworthy enough). He explains his situation, already prepared to be called crazy but she was thankfully able to somewhat understand. She also does confirm the rumors after a couple more meetings with bit of hesitation and making it clear that it's the greatest shame within her family name. But she's slowly taking things in a better direction and even acts as a leader of the Shadow Ops.

They then make an exchange: Jayce gives her the notes he secretly took regarding Viktor's powers so that she can commission a dampener to be made so that Vik can better control his abilities without the risk of death while she hands him some of the research she was able to find so that he can better understand things a bit even though the setting of P3 is much different from P5.

She does warn him about one thing: With what he has told her, there's a possibility that if further used too much then Vik's powers could actually make his own Persona go berserk and out of control. While it won't kill him, it WILL accelerate the deterioration of his life partially b/c of his past frail health.

That being said, she offers both of them a spot in the Shadow Ops. Complete with accommodations such as a better home and pay. The downside being they'd have to move away if they accepted. She allows Jayce time to think about it and talk to Viktor since she can see potential in both of them and can even help Viktor better hone his abilities.

Part of the later conflicts is Viktor misunderstanding things and his old feelings of resentment, insecurities, and even abandonment start to resurface as a result (Maruki's machinations was not helping either). Kind of a deconstruction of their dynamic which I have read some occasional small analysis on how it can border on co-dependent and Viktor still having immature tendencies (at least compared to Jayce which again, is something I've observed a bit after looking back at some scenes).

The thing is that Jayce wanted to talk to him about it but ended up getting too caught up with everything to find the right moment to do so. Especially with Shido later looming over them which then culminates into a raid into their home and getting attacked when they walk in after that televised calling card. Viktor, of course, was also very stubborn too.

This conflict was also kinda inspired by a question I saw on my Twitter TL once that's best summarized as: Would Viktor (if fully) be forgiving of Jayce should they survive and just be teleported somewhere? Which was a very interesting question to me because on one hand, probably. Just wouldn't be willing to forgive himself for a while if anything. BUT on the other hand, I feel like he probably would bottle up a lot of negative feelings when you think about what things were like in his perspective. He wouldn't HATE Jayce but I can imagine some resentment for a while too so why not a mix of both in the case of this AU? His general conflict is his inner negative feelings regarding Jayce despite loving and caring about him still along with his unwillingness to forgive himself for what he did as the Herald.

They do accept Mitsuru's offer after resolving things and are much happier after joining. Basically tying into 3rd Semester's main themes regarding healing and moving on with your life and starting over.

Not sure about having Evokers involved or not since I vaguely remember reading an old fic where there was a moment where Joker uses one and gains a different Persona though not in a good state of mind. I'm not sure for certain how using an Evoker could effect someone who already awakened in P5's setting and method.

I guess if they are then Jayce finds one in the case Mitsuru gave him. Probably for him to study and maybe take apart for a closer look. Viktor unfortunately ends up finding it the night before his own boss fight ("Herald of Eden") and takes it while Jayce was sleeping along with the notes on how it's used... You do the math on what he would try to do out of desperation if that makes sense. Like I said, I'm not sure about including the Evokers yet so that could be scrapped.

Although, the Evoker idea does sound like an interesting deep dive admittedly as that could be the final nail on the coffin to Viktor losing full control of himself and his Persona as he could only handle so much.

That's about it so far! I'm on a roll guys! 😄

[ameba-from-space]

I know we are all sad with the end of arcane, but let's not forget what episode 7 taught us: vi and jayce collabs are the root of all evil

[sage-thetravler]

I want to put Jayce and Nikolai in a room and see if it has the same affect as Vi and Jayce in a room.

I would also like to put Viktor and the Darkling in a room. For science.

[rustyrailways]

Having vivid dreams is so odd at times because I remember a few days ago I had a dream where Arcane had a different ending.

Most of it is fuzzy but I specifically recall even after Jayce said "we finish this together" Viktor still pushed him away and forced him out - deeming that Jayce deserved to go on in inspite of Jayce's protests, thus he comes back alive. Obviously completely devastated afterwards he's in an almost catatonic state and no one could get through to him. Due to this everything else proceeded as the original (Mel to Noxus, Catvi final conversation), until one moment where Jayce remembers Viktor saying "in the pursuit of great we failed to do good" and then he just gets up and walks to Ximena's house and the final shot we see of him is of his back as he just begins to crumple in her arms as they hug.

I then remember opening TikTok and seeing an edit of the two of them to "From now on" from the greatest showman with that scene being under the line "But when I stop an see you here, I remember who all this was for".

All this to say is I was hit with severe emotional damage and have not stopped thinking about that dream. I now I need an edit of them to that song.

[frereamour]

i think it's funny how Gaspar goes 'wow tali really doesn't give a fuck about me' and he's right she doesn't. she just fully peaces out of the narrative lmao. ofc he also doesn't give a fuck because the person he wishes had been there to parent him is stephen.

[arolesbianism]

I've been passively watching an isat playthrough while twiddling my thumbs in my current oni save as I wait for my new power systems to be done and hey guys. I think one of these bitches is aromantic. Why did no one tell me one of these bitches is aromantic I would have played the game myself if I knew that

[transthatmasc]

I love the concept that Viktor ends up with Jayce’s last name through some originally non-romantic means so much that I have multiple versions.

Jayce accidentally gives Viktor his last name by being so insistent on putting Viktor’s name first in every circumstance. When he’s listing their names on anything he puts them down as “Viktor and Jayce Talis”. When he introduces them to people he says “Nice to meet you, this is Viktor and I’m Jayce Talis” with a pause before Talis because he always forgets that he should say his house name too. Viktor slowly starts to notice that they’re referred to in the tabloids as “the Talises” and that higher ups at the academy will introduce him to investors as “Viktor Talis” without Jayce even being there.

When they first start working together, they put their initials next to things in their shared notes to mark when they have questions or agree with something the other wrote, or to differentiate when someone is dictating while the other talks. In an effort to not have it confused with a variable, Viktor initials VT (VikTor) as a bit of a joke to look similar to Jayce’s JT. However, one day when Heimerdinger is looking over their notes, he marks out a question in the margin for Viktor with “Viktor Talis” written out next to it in full. Viktor and Jayce debate for a moment after he leaves if it was supposed to mean it was for both of them, but the contents of the question makes it entirely clear that Heimerdinger things VT stands for Viktor Talis and has accepted that Viktor has adopted Jayce’s last name with no questions.

At the beginning of Hextech, as they are trying to get investors, Viktor regularly gets identified as being from the undercity and harassed for it by wealthy Pilties when he tells them his name is “just Viktor” when asked what house he is from. So one day Jayce suggests just telling investors that his last name is also Talis, thinking that people will assume they are brothers. Viktor gets flustered and tries to politely decline, but Jayce seems to confident that he lets it happen. It takes him weeks to figure out that Jayce doesn’t realize that everyone thinks they’ve gotten married or plan to. Viktor doesn’t have the heart to tell him and won’t let Mel break the illusion.

Jayce takes Viktor on a tour of the forge and when he gets done takes a hammer to jokingly knight him and dub him “officially part of house Talis” Jayce thinks nothing of it until the next time they meet someone new together when he almost spits out his drink hearing Viktor introduce himself as “Viktor Talis”

Some investor that they fucking hate can’t keep their names straight for some reason but always sees Jayce wearing his house sigil so he says “ah, Viktor Talis” every time he sees Jayce. They find it so fucking funny that even just saying “Viktor Talis” sends them into uncontrollable laughter.

Ximena refers to them exclusively as “my boys” to the point that most people who met her after Hextech was founded assume that she has two sons, Jayce Talis and Viktor Talis. She doesn’t feel the need to correct them as she does truly love them both as her children and is also quietly hoping one day Jayce will get his head out of his ass and ask Viktor out on a date.