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a-memory-a-distant-echo · 8 months ago
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i started talking about this in the tags of a reblog of this fantastic post, and then i was like, ok this isn't that related, i need another post.
but i feel like one of the defining differences between li xiangyi/li lianhua and di feisheng are how they handle their own roles in the narrative.
di feisheng knows that someone has to be the bad guy, regardless of if it's an accurate reflection of them or not. he knows what his role in this narrative is, he knows how people see him, and he knows what they expect from him. and most of the time he doesn't care enough to challenge them on it, because he knows the role that he plays, and he believes that the people who know him, the people he cares about, will know better than that.
and—as we know—this bites him in the ass over and over, and he's hurt by it every time. everyone misunderstands him: li xiangyi, who believed he would have shan gudao killed, would break their treaty, would poison li xiangyi; jiao liqiao, who believed he just wanted to win at any cost; yao mo, who believed that the point was the fight. li lianhua, who even at the end, doesn't understand—or won't accept—that the what di feisheng wanted him to fight for was to survive.
li xiangyi knows he's the hero, but he doesn't understand that it's a role he's playing. he thinks it's an accurate reflection of himself and of how people see him, and he trusts that people who know him will understand that. they'll see his choices through that lens: he's not impulsive, he's decisive; he's not too trusting, he's loyal.
and—again, as we know—this bites him in the ass over and over, and—again—he's hurt by it every time. shan gudao sees him not as a hero, but a challenger, a threat. the martial world saw him as so blinded by his affection for shan gudao that no one dared tell him of the rumours that shan gudao was searching for descendants of nanyin. his friends saw him as competitive or willful or hubristic.
discovering this is so painful that it breaks him. it shatters his self image completely—li xiangyi is no longer in this world, indeed, because li xiangyi never existed the way that he thought he did.
and then we have li lianhua, who thinks he finally understands, and has that turned on its head over and over again. who thought he was a lone wanderer, but is surrounded by people who love him. who thought he was here to avenge his shixiong, but is the one to kill him. who thought he was going to save the empire, but is the one person who could destroy it. who thought the only way he could protect people was by leaving them, but never stops to wonder what his absence does to them.
li lianhua, who thought the most he had to offer anyone was his death, but never allowed himself to see how desperately his friends wanted him to live.
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bbcphile · 27 days ago
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Great addition, @kseniyagreen!
And also, @nutcasewithaknife, I LOVE your tags!!
#it's quite fascinating how Li Lianhua needs a story or an image to strive towards to live his life and set his goals#first it was that of the righteous hero who was the best. who ensired justice#next it was the image of this peaceful and calm mundane life of singleminded focus#and he does a great job of convincing not judt himself but everyone else too that he achieves it. both times!!!#and yet it always ends up falling apart. the truth is that life is messy and always catches up to him#he cannot distill himself and his life into one specific image because he is messier than he cares to admit#agh this is scratching a very specific itch in my mind thank you op!!!#FRESH MLC META ON MY DASH IN 2025 <3<3<3#mysterious lotus casebook#li lianhua
(Side note: I also love how much the stories he clung to about other people for much of the show also crashed and burned: SGD as the perfect brother who loved him and who died because of LLH's arrogance, and DFS as the person who betrayed him and his sect and who he should have known better than to trust. It fits so well with the show's overall theme that the histories that we know are all flawed and rarely actually line up with reality (eg. the storytellers version of the donghai battle, the emperor isn't of royal blood, SGD isn't the Nanyin heir, etc), and it also shows that for all that LLH is an excellent detective (and storyteller), he also struggles to look past the comfort stories--and easy dichotomies of heroes and villains--provide, especially when they involve him.)
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Anyone else having feelings about Li Xiangyi's naming himself "Lianhua" (lotus flower) after reading the inscription about lotus flowers blooming everywhere on monk Wuliao's wall? (Episode 3, timestamp 13:30).
The subtitles translate the panel on the right (一念心清淨) as "The heart attains peace with a single thought" and the one on the left (蓮花處處開) as "lotus flowers bloom all around." And after reading it out loud and praising it, he leaves, saying that Li Xiangyi is dead, and only Li Lianhua is left; his first time using this new name.
So, if we think of his new name as declaring his new life manifesto--living simply, calmly, enjoying the beauty of the world, and choosing one single thought to focus on (aka. finding and burying Shan Gudao's body) instead of the fame, leadership, justice, and accolades he used to pursue--it is beautifully, heartbreakingly ironic. Because finding and burying Shan Gudao's body doesn't bring him peace or calm; it eventually makes him aware of a conspiracy that teaches him that everything he thought he knew was a lie.
It's also so fascinatingly creepy and perfect that he thinks he found Shan Gudao in the manor where "lotus flowers bloom all around" and was able to bury him as a result. Except, the lotuses are blooming from corpses and were the site of four murders, and there's nothing calm or peaceful about it, and he eventually learns it's not Shan Gudao's body after all. It's like some sort of grotesque parody of the peaceful promise to himself inherent in his name.
If Fang Duobing and Di Feisheng do in fact find him at the end of that incredibly open-ended extra episode, then I wouldn't be surprised at all if he decides that he desperately needs a new fake name, not just because the Lianhua alias is blown, but because he needs a new philosophy after the previous one was wrecked as badly as the boat he and Di Feisheng battled on ten years earlier.
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ao3feed-buckybarnes · 6 years ago
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One voice
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by Nanyin
Gimme…so long..(hmmm) too long….
Words: 143, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling, The Avengers (Marvel) - All Media Types
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: James "Bucky" Barnes, Hermione Granger
Relationships: James "Bucky" Barnes/Hermione Granger
Additional Tags: missing you too long
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ao3feed-steverogers · 7 years ago
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He/She reminds me of a drink
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by Nanyin
"You name the person. Share your knowledge or opinion of the drink, the more complex the better."
Words: 2029, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling, The Avengers (Marvel Movies)
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: James "Bucky" Barnes, Steve Rogers, Sam Wilson (Marvel), Hermione Granger, Jarvis (Iron Man movies)
Relationships: James "Bucky" Barnes/Hermione Granger
Additional Tags: Late Night Conversations
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kseniyagreen · 8 months ago
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Quote the previous tags:
#cw fantasy and fictional setting racism#as specifically directed against the fictional non-han nanyin people#whenever nanyin comes up i think it's such a pity MLC didn't dare go with them where ALoN went with the moluo-cun villagers
Yes, in fact, the Nanyin Empire embodies the entire darkest and most disgusting side of traditional society. Racism, sacrifice, slavery - in its exaggerated form of mind control. Everything that the world of martial arts opposes, at least in its ideals. And by making Li Xiangyi the heir of Nanyin by blood, the narrative really tightened the noose around his neck, which gives me very ambiguous feelings. Because trying all the way to escape this dictatorial traditional plot, in the finale Li Xiangyi does exactly what the plot requires of him - he sacrifices himself.
That is, trying so desperately to get rid of the role of "Li Xiangyi the hero" , in the finale he does the most “Li Xiangyi the hero” thing. As if admitting his defeat to this role and to this society. And this is the point where I would like to see a different storyline.
Another detective case - another mirror to Li Xiangyi's life.
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This time the topic is society's cultivation of victims for slaughter.
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One of the cornerstones of traditional culture - all traditional cultures, both in the east and in the west.
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This archetypal story is about a chosen one who was born to save the world by sacrificing themself.
But what if you're actually just a white monkey, carefully bred to be used and sacrificed to imaginary gods?
But you don’t feel this noose around your neck, intoxicated by the illusion of your own uniqueness, irreplaceability, until it becomes too late.
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And if you are lucky enough to crawl away from this sacrificial fire alive, the old role is torn off from you like skin.
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