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thecalvinistkat · 26 days ago
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The Sonic X Shadow Generations X Chao manga got me thinking… Maria would have loved Chao.
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sleepy-vix · 1 year ago
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100% 5 AND 99% 4 HOLY SHIT??? higher than average percentages on 6 and 9 is so true aswell wow
source: advanced-personality.com
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lumpyorganelle · 6 months ago
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Enneagram Self-preservation (SP) Instinct
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Keys words: Survival, comfort, stability, home, independence, practical foundation, resources, hoarding, well-being, domesticity, structure, sustainability, shelter, work, finances, safety, environment, self-care, balance
Summary of SP instinct:
The first instinct to have evolved. This is an orientation towards survival, health, and comfort. SP drive checks in with the body: “Is this not enough or too much?” and orients by what the body reports on its needs. Of the three instincts, this is the oldest one; it dictates: “I must survive.”
primary concerns:
physical safety, comfort, and well-being; securing an orderly and aesthetically pleasing way of life (food, clothing, money, housing, and physical health)
primary focus:
security, comfort, and well-being of the environment (lighting, temperature, comfortable furniture, aesthetics, food quality)
primary ambition:
using practicality and financial sense to create a secure environment in the home and workplace (paying bills, acquiring skills to ensure the orderly flow of life)
primary stresses:
money, sustenance (how they will get food, when it will come, if they will like it, if it fits their diet), scarcity of resources
coping methods (unhealthy/distorted):
over-stocking, overbuying, overeating, under-eating, over-purging, oversleeping, under-sleeping, overindulging in aesthetics or comfort foods, not exercising or over-exercising, constant concern about lack of resources and survival, lethargy and fear of stepping out of comfort zones, never feeling secure or struggling to relax
Topics SP types might bring up in conversation:
food, dining out, dieting, nutrition, health, fitness, appearance and looks, money, savings and sales, shopping, quality or durability of objects, clothing, design, home decoration, employment, benefits, insurance, comfort, strength, vitality, sickness, death, discomfort, noise, safety, security, environment, resource management, physical sciences, engineering, architecture.
Example thoughts SP subtypes might have:
Physical Well-Being: 
Is this food healthy? Why do I feel so tired today? When can I get back to the gym so I can feel more energetic? Could I climb to the top of this mountain? Could I survive in the forest for one month?
Self-Regulation and Skills: 
Can I take this apart/fix it? How does this work? What work needs to be done to get what I want? How can I autonomously create my own life? Did we do the laundry? Are my affairs in order? Will I be able to settle in a new place? How do I make this more convenient?
Foundations and Resources: 
Is owning property better than renting? How much money do I have this month? Where’s the closest grocery store? Why am I stuck here when I really want to travel and see the rest of the world? Why isn’t there enough nature in this city? Do I have any savings?
References:
https://thepracticalenneagram.com/instincts/self-preservation-instinct/
https://re-fi-ne-ment.tumblr.com/post/161035338043/instinctual-variants-and-cruelty
https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/comments/14bw32k/are_enneagrammers_instinct_example_thoughts/
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subconsciousmysteries · 1 year ago
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I must lament how terribly lacking in CONTEXT most ppl’s typology is.
In an environment of scarcity, war and/or isolation, sp means being aggressive. In civilized societies, and with tribes who meet your survival needs, sp usually means the opposite. Because you don’t want your boss to fire you or to be considered a problem to the tribe that feeds you and shelters you.
All sp-doms carefully track where their resources and survival needs come from. The sp-instinct is wired towards meeting base survival needs. The sp-instinct is wired against doing anything that jeapordizes one’s physical health and survival. Sp-doms will fixate upon these base, physical survival needs even if their base needs are already met and they don’t need to fixate on them. They’ll worry about losing their job, losing their income stream, not having enough income and resource security and health in the future, etc. sp doms will neuroticise about resources, health and base survival even it is at the expense of pursuing what they really like viscerally (sx), or at the expense of carving out their desired social identity (soc).
a person like this, regardless of their second instinct, is not going to be chronically edgy. They are going to fear alienating people unless they truly need nobody for their survival needs to be met, both short term and long term. They are going to fear making enemies for this threatens base survival needs. Sx and soc, on the other hand, have actual incentives to be edgy. Sx has an incentive because being brash can mean expressing what you like and dislike, which is the whole thing sx wants to do. Soc has an incentive to be edgy and rude because polarizing can be a tool in carving out your social identity and your desired place among others. Sp only has an incentive to be aggressive and polarizing if the environment tangibly rewards it with resources… which it rarely does. There are exceptional cases where you can get paid to be edgy and polarizing in this society, but these are the exception and not the rule. Often these roles are filled by lucky sp-blinds anyway, who happened to find themselves in wealth despite not seeking it as their goal.
Why are these such a difficult concepts? Why do I still see people pushing the “soc-blinds are edgy and speak their minds” rubbish?
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mbti-darling · 9 months ago
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people often mistake self care in any form or shape as inherently equivalent to self preservation instinct. it's not.
sp is primarily concerned with survival and resource needs. most of the time, self care will only become a concern when it's the necessary resource or a tool to resource gathering. otherwise, it's a waste of time and energy and hardly will become a concern.
a sp who doesn't rely on their looks for survival will probably not invest time in money in extensive beauty care. a sp with no signs of illness of fragile health state won't probably be concerned about eating and exercising much. a sp whose mental health do not affect their productivity may not be concerned about health care management.
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fanopeia · 3 months ago
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em: Instinctual Variants Stackings | Wiki | Myers Briggs [MBTI] Amino (aminoapps.com)
Self-Preservation dominant, Sexual 2nd, Social blindspot (SP/SX)
> Mindset: "I can have merging/intensity without having to leave my orderly & pleasing lifestyle." (imagination, safe people and relationships, when the safety of these are challenged they withdraw)
> Earthy, mysterious, quietly intense, seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, favour personal interests
> Slow to commit, but when they do it is a life commitment to establish an impermeable bond
> Can attach to others at a root level in contrast to their surface formality
> Sanctuary of home, decorate spaces to reflect their taste/depth
> Want to live in secure comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth
> Archetypes: The Grave Digger, pirate, voodoo fetishist
> Missing Social, fresh air/sunlight
> Shrouded/hooded quality, cave dweller
> Can be oblivious to the collective good
> Communications are intimate, personal, no aura of the collective
> Friend-of-the-dark, non-judgemental with people’s underbellies/corruption
> The elements as metaphor: Downward death, decay/destruction, undertow, carcasses recycling into earth fertilizing
> Molten fire SX in earth’s core SP, volcanic, threat of eruption
> Psychic nudity/revelation threatens the SP/SX with self-destruction, or at least social self-destruction, which is all part of the distilling process toward the desired one-to-one bond.
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Sexual dominant, Self-Preservation 2nd, Social blindspot (SX/SP)
> Mindset: "If I can make (us) have an orderly & pleasing lifestyle, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."
> Internally conflicted, inconsistent behaviour SX blocked by SP, brooding, troubledIsolation vs. emerging
> Strictly personal outlook, not concerned with social consensus
> Searching for missing piece, soulmate, form a secret bond
> When stressed, severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic behaviour
> Restless, torn between stable home and urge to wander/explore intensity
> Want the intensity of partner/pursuing personal interests with the stability and comfort of a home sanctuary
> Archetypes: The Alchemist, shaman, self-injurer, cutter, tattoo artist
> Missing Social, fresh air/sunlight, when you take away air you get death
> Shrouded/hooded quality, cave dweller
> Oblivious to the collective good
> Communications are intimate, personal, no aura of the collective
> Friend-of-the-dark, non-judgemental with people’s underbellies/corruption
> The elements as metaphor: Upward death, rebirth, metamorphosis, burned to death and born again from new elements
> Losing self to die in the other in upward peak of flame and ecstasy
> A lightning bolt captured in a bottle. The energy is always there but it's contained in a glass jar and only breaks free once in a while. The SX/SP is boxed in energy, self-contained, cutting, and focused. SX/SP types will often look angry even when they are not. There is a certain reality of emotion which they display that is due to their social obliviousness. Most SX's will be honest almost to a fault. SX/SP want to choose their friends wisely. A "with me or against me" attitude reminiscent of 6 and 8s. The least inhibited of all stackings. Cares less of what others think of them. The most likely to get into physical altercations, and may even enjoy fighting. Healthy SX/SP's will display a playful selfishness.
> SX/SP have a inner confidence which is not usually found in other stackings. However they may lack social confidence or just may not pay any attention to social rituals at all. Put a SX/SP in a busy bar and they will be confident in themselves. But make them sit at their parent-in-laws for a formal family dinner and you won't see that same confidence. It's inner confidence rather than social confidence of the SX/SO. May be very popular without knowing or putting emphasis on it, unlike SO types.
> SX/SP does create a kind of isolationary tendency though even in extroverted types, an in-their-own-world vibe, kinda oblivious sometimes. But ironically they can also be extremely insistent and aggressive on issues they feel strongly about, which they go on about in the SO realms in ways that will cause stronger SO's to cringe, it's so rough and undiplomatic. They can fall in love with their soapboxes. They can tune out of conversations, reacting suddenly when someone says something interesting, then snapping back to their inner focus whenever it gets boring. Also, making the odd crude joke, in bad taste. Or a faux pas, where they don't know it's the wrong thing to say until afterwards, or don't care.
> SX manifests as strong drives towards pleasure, new experiences, personal transformations, spontaneity, being provocative and in the spotlight, flaunting to impress, extravagance, and unrealistic romantic fantasies and whims. But SP counters with worries, fears, practical downers, erecting walls, a need to hide and be secretive, and needs to conserve time, space, and energy.
Energies in the Stackings
SX-firsts, aren’t as aware of the interactions between them and others and the environment, rather… their more aware of the chemistry. So while the so-firsts are more “mechanical”, the sx-firsts are more “chemical”. Focusing on SX-first issues involve: Am I close to my gf/bf? Am I close to my family? How much in common do we all have? Do I really like this thing? Am I attracted to it? Is that person attracted to that other person? etc. They’re more aware of the bonds and the chemistry between them and people, as well as environment, and other people and other people, as well as other people and the environment. They really like being close to their intimates, and are generally passionate about things. Likewise, they fear that those chemical bonds could be broken, and when they are, they are emotionally hurt. They feel literally separated, and ripped away from the other person or object.
SP-first issues revolve around: Am I healthy? Do I look good? How are my financial issues? How is that person’s financial issues? Am I hungry? etc. In other words, SP-firsts worry more about fitness. Fitness in general, of course, not necessarily just body fitness. Therefore, they worry more about how fit they are in their environment, as well as how fit other people are in their environment. They want to be fit. This represents more a potential energy, rather than mechanical and chemical energy. When someone leaves them… I guess perhaps they feel more unfit, since I’m sure they may rely on others to keep them fit. Though, its still more important for they themselves to be fit on their own.
[ok, não sei ainda qual sequência é mais minha cara. ainda acho que sx/sp]
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j4r-of-flies · 10 months ago
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need a typology mf to tell me if my type is contradictory or not , ESTP sp/sx 7w8 738 SEE choleric-sanguine SCOEI VFLE ES(T)
also on the hunt for typology moots u guys are rare and elusive like a silverback gorilla
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anime-addictt · 1 year ago
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Instinctual Variant -4
Social Instinct:
Social Instinct is all about connections. The need to establish a social group and be a part of one where people have similar interests.
Some really common attributes found within people who have the So instinct include:
The need for social acceptance. Don't mistake this for neediness, it's just that they understand the value of community a lot better than so-blinds.
Connecting with people through ideas, thoughts. This also includes one-one connections. A lot of times, people mistake the need for connection to be an Sx thing, especially when it is one-one. However, the Sx energy is purely attraction. Sx-users crave for a certain "high" that Sx-blinds, or predominant So-users can put aside. So-users connect with people through similarities, unlike So-blinds or Sx users, who don't usually care much about them.
Merging with cultures. A So-user is more likely to merge with the culture that they are surrounded by.
Having a hard time accepting oddballs. As much as this sounds wrong, a lot of so-users do have trouble accepting oddballs. Since their brains are conditioned to accept commonness, and create an environment where they could be with people who have similar interests, it is kind of difficult for them to accept those who don't believe in the same. (But that doesn't mean they are evil)
Understanding social constructs. They are aware that social niceness is a key requirement for a functional society. (Basically, more aware of their surrounding, and their community to make sure that they continue to fit in)
Most people are So-users. Which makes sense, since we live in a world where society, and community is given higher importance.
So/Sp users generally tend to have a more "politician" vibe to them, since they have learnt how to play with their community to satisfy their physical/materialistic needs. Sp being in the auxiliary position here also means that they are going to be concerned a bit more about their materialistic needs to fit within the social circle they're a part of. This means that they are more likely to:
Be more concerned about how much money they have, how they look, what they eat. Especially if it means being in a better social circle.
Bond with people based on their materialistic or financial desires and requirements.
Enforce ideas within their community to make it easy for them to attain their sp requirements.
Are more likely to abide to social rules than So/Sx users, since they lack the need, or aren't really aware of their need or desire to merge, or get fixated on the Sx energy.
They also tend to be a bit more traditional in their way of thinking, and would stick to rules, and ideas that have always worked.
So/Sx user, on the other hand tend to have the "wild neighbor with crazy amount of friends" vibe to them. Thanks to their Sx, they seem to have their own flair. However, they'd use this Sx to merge with people within their So community. This means that they're a lot less reckless than Sx/So users when it comes to pursuing the Sx energy. If a So/Sx user realizes that the Sx they choose to pursue would hurt their position within the circle they are a part of, they would immediately stop. Some other things that I've noticed is that:
Very poor sp. A So/Sx acquaintance of mine choose to party till 3am in the middle of the week with their boss to become his "best friend" and get into the inner circle. An So/Sp would never take this crazy approach, because they value their sp needs.
Their ability to make everyone fit into a community. So/Sx users, for some amazing reason love it when they can fit everyone into the community they are a part of. I think it is the perfect combination of being able to match the Sx energy and communicate and uphold So ideas.
Tend to come off as flaky. I guess this is once again because of their need to merge, and socially connect with everyone around them. And since Sx isn't really their priority, it's like partially digging the ground for gold and then finding a shiny object two feet away.
Struggle with taking care of their physical needs. Like every sp-blind person, they really think they can party till 5am and then get to work at 8, without having anything to eat.
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karinalauryn · 6 months ago
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my typology
MBTI: ENFP
MBTI (If you follow the jumper function theory): ESFJ (FeNe jumper)
Enneagram: 2w3
Tritype: 279 (2w3 7w6 9w8)
Enneagram Subtype: SO2
Instinctual Variant: SO/SX
Socionics: ESE-Fe
Classic Jungian: EF(N)
Big 5: SLUAI
Attitudinal Psyche: EVFL
4 Temperaments: Sanguine-Phlegmatic
Moral Alignment: Chaotic Good
Moral Alignment 5x5: Rebel Good
DISC: IS
MOTIV: MOHIVE
Holland Code: SAE
Cognitive Functions: Fe>Ne>Se>Fi>Ni>Te>Si>Ti
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omgvalhalla · 2 years ago
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Instinctual stack: sexual
Sx is about having a strong awareness of your own genetic fingerprint. Whether it’s sx-dom or sx-aux. An intuitive grasp of how to present the ME-ness, or the SELF-ness. Also neuroticism with being considered sexually attractive hence shooting yourself in the foot when there’s someone you actually like. An sx-user likely has a precise explanation of what a tattoo expresses in terms of being deeply personal. An sx-blind might explain they simply liked it, or how it was a rite of passage of sorts (thereby having connected to their weak sx). 
It’s not about “looking pretty” or “looking sexy”. Cher (sx/sp) wearing crop tops throughout her entire career, when it wasn’t fashionable whatsoever. Amy Winehouse (sx/soc) and her fifties pin up look singing jazz when neither of that was fashionable. Kate Bush (so/sx) whose expression and musical style paved the way for others. In a way, sx is about expressing your genes. As a rule of thumb, sx-blinds are more attractive in the conventional sense compared to sx-dom: Henry Cavill and Sam Heughan sp/soc and David Bowie or Mick Jagger sx/soc. Megan Fox is not an sx-dom, rather soc/sp with a lot of movie industry sexy going on, compare with P!nk sp/sx. 
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freudenstein · 2 months ago
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Scaramouche/Wanderer in Enneagram
Anyone wanna talk typology and Scara?
I have mostly scattered thoughts at the moment, but I think Scaramouche is one of the most accurate examples of an SX lead that I came across personally. I use Enneagrammer as a source, but I think he hits the mark using several popular takes on the theory. You can even make a case for Naranjo subtypes if it's what you prefer to go with, as the consensus seems to be going between SX4 or SX6. I prefer to see the instincts and enneagram separately but in the case of this character typing, this is not important because it's at least clear he's SX in every way. More about his instincts and enneagram core type under the cut, and tl;dr at the end. This is a very rambly post and meant to invite discussion.
Instinctual variants:
His intensity and single mindededness and desire to embody his ambition and his spiritual role even at the cost of self-destruction speaks of what SX truly is to my eyes: an almost "possessed" contenance, and a vessel-like nature for raw birthing/destructive power (nods to his egregious death and rebirth themes.) Besides the common arguments about his neediness and how readily he attaches to people--a sense of permeability that is stronger than average and stands out in contrast to his pricklyness and aloofness.
Moreover, his social cluelessness/disinterest come off genuinely social blind rather than socially rejecting in say, an SO/sp way, I think. He does not seem to be overly aware of his "genres", so to speak, especially if he's an image type, ie. he may be social blind or at least social second. In Simulanka, and in his voice lines, he has enough self-awareness to play around with and poke at the fact that he's supposed to be a villain and a bad guy, and not a hero or a good guy, but that's the extent of it iirc.
For what it's worth, he doesn't seem SP blind but he's close. The SP may even be evident to some, but it does not come above his ruinous and self-damaging fire, that tempestuousness. There's a lot more to say about how he could fit SX/sp regarding lesser points like SP playground stuff but hopefully linking this page here explains those less important points because I want to move on to the next part. Basically, SX/so is a close possibility after SX/sp to me.
Enneagram core:
What SX tends to overlap with (not correlate, and I totally avoid correlation typing) in other systems is Enneagram 4, which made me hesitate to entertain the idea of him being 4 core despite how it sort of jumps at you at a glance. He's "emo". He's full of torment and pain, but not in the sadsack way as the 4/9 stereotype goes (which is in actuality just depression and not a personality type trait) but in a truly fourish way, eager and proud. He looks edgy. He's generally introverted, but not at all mild, instead, he is rather "loud" with who he is. But the more I thought about it the more I realized how much of Scaramouche's personality and actions are driven by his heavy identification with being broken, and by envy. The core wounds of enneagram 4. The uncertainty remains in whether these themes outweigh his more head-type themes.
Head vs heart:
It's clear he's got a strong and reactive head fix (6) and that he may be a triple reactive tritype (468)....what remains is finding the core type, between 6w5 and 4w5. Five core doesn't fit at all, as a true 5 in genshin would be someone like Alhaitham, but the withdrawn side can't be ignored, so a w5 feels very comfy to give to him. Nevertheless, my intuition tends to jump towards head types whenever Anemo is involved due to Anemo's themes of freedom, forging your own path, and finding direction or purpose in life, which tend to align with 6 and 7 for the most part. Scaramouche *was* driven to find purpose, as it is shown with Wanderer too--but what caused Wanderer to wander? It was a feeling of emptiness due to having his identity erased from his memory, and it is retreiving said identity along with the sins and pain that accompany it, in particular, an acceptance of the self and its evilness, that earns Scaramouche a vision.
The fact that he was never given a name and had to go through different roles and selves show the importance of personal identity to him. If he were a 6 seeking to assuage existenial fears of aimlessness and loss of inner faith, he would not be fixated on these partiuclar means to achieve his purpose. Scaramouche also never lacks an inner sense of guidance in what he does, he just does what he sets off on doing, and what he does lack is a moral framework or ethical considerations to what he does, which calls for developement towards 1 (4->1 integration).
So while I do see the 6ishness in him, and the head themes are there, I think he may be a shame type, centered around identity, although in a way befitting to his MBTI type and wing and tri, rather than a stereotypical 4ish broken bird artist type.
4 fix vs 2 fix:
I realized that I could articulate what could make him a 4 core with a lot of ease after my initial reticence after recognizing his 2ish patterns: pride, servitude, and identity in being useful to others. But what is 2 if not connected to 4 anyway? And those aspects of him are less fixed and urgent as the unreasonable obssession with missing a literal piece of him was, and how he translates that to missing an essential component of humanity, and feeling hollow inside (literally and figuratively). Even after moving on from ideals of becoming a real human, or becoming a god, his belief of being apart from others persists and he remains a very self-centered character with little identification with selflessness. His character seems to be growing towards 1 as well, as of Simulanka update.
2 being a positive type rules it out, as Scaramouche, even in his new state and on a path of atonement, seems to revel in negative emotions and pull from them, and seems to feel scorn and jadedness towards subjects he discusses with feigned distinterest. Even after receiving a heart, he continues to be fixated on the suffering around him. It goes without saying that he doesn't derive a sense of self worth by being giving, or generous with his energy time or anything material or emotional, but is very proud and almost bafflingly pleased at receiving attention via his first devotee as a false god. It goes opposite the 2 fixation.
4 is an idealist triad frustration type, and it desintegrates to 2. At his most desperate, Scaramouche decided to let others use him just so he can gain recognition and be a useful helper, even if it damages him. (At least that's how I read his involvement in the fatui, and there are shades of it in his acceptance of being at Nahida's service.)
In conclusion, Scaramouche, who is fixated on whether he can be truly said to have a heart or not, is most likely to be heart core. This is a thing of utmost importance as it is even illustrated in his constellation: a doll holding a heart. And in typical 4 tradition, Scara believes he is hollow inside. The corniest, fourest thing I've ever seen.
I could do more comparison analysis with other hypothetical cores and fixes but this is not meant to be a very long post. A 6w5ish 4w5 seems to be a decent typing for now.
MBTI:
Regarding MBTI, I don't do letter-based or dichotomy based Jungian personality theory. I rather prefer Jungian functions, but that's a very muddy ground to tread considering everyone defines the functions differently and there's massive misconceptions about them, particulalry the functions most associated with Scaramouche in the community: Ni and Fi. For a strictly JCF perspective I stick to a personal interpretation of MBTI that comforms most closely to CPT's model more or less, because it's what aligns the best with the visual typing-based Cognitive Type theory, the latter which I consider to be the best jungian based typology system, but is not classic MBTI or JCFT and can't be cleanly discussed in MBTI language so to speak. Because of this...complicatedness, I decided I'd tackle his jungian type in a dedicated post.
Tl;dr:
Sx/sp 4w5 6w5 8w7.
Alt: 4w3, sx/so (468)
Thoughts?
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profoundsubmissive · 2 years ago
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Enneagram Instinctual Variants Write-Up (03/12/2022)
The following is merely a port of an entry I wrote in my diary in an attempt to understand my instinctual variant stack, which then evolved into a brief extrapolation of what I believe the instincts truly are. Nothing more. If I conceptually understand the instincts, then even replication of each one should be relatively easy. Further, though I wish to know my instincts, it's a relatively useless concept that is more in the realm of spirituality than psychology. That is—it seeks to explain that which isolates humanity from any other animal, as well as that which keeps it in the kingdom of animalia. The question of old, "do humans have souls?" It seeks to derive from your interpersonal influence, as well as our drives fundamentally. If I avoid the use of instinct, readily this becomes somewhat akin to a, "soul journey," or that which spiritualists may describe as your "karmic path". The dominant instinct being that which is safe, what you know and what you are drawn towards the most. With the auxiliary, a ~~function~~ *instinct* that under normal circumstance of, "synflow" being that which the dominant instinct uses to fulfill its desire. Interestingly, while in synflow Sp -> So -> Sx, the way that the instincts are used is actually in reverse. In Sp/So, the social instinct reinforces the Sp, not the other way around. So since the auxiliary is seen as more of a tool than a basic necessity, it gets relegated to the healthiest expression. However in contraflow, the order of use is actually the opposite, the Sp would flow into the So, this would mean reinforcing the social realm with barriers, walls, likely a melting of one's self conception as isolated, with the social realm, ultimately viewing the social realm as an extension of the self and as such that general concept of "dying on the hill of one's beliefs". *The body as a social statement.* Cutting is an inherently So/Sp act. Ah yes, first we must define something: SP = Self Social = Others Sexual = Genes Yes, it really is this simple. No one is "blind" to an instinct, and a majority of people harmonize with those instincts to live fulling (as defined by their enneatype and instinctual variant order) lives. What the concept of "blindness" attempts to describe is a turning away from that instinct so that it's relegated from conscious action, and instead becomes an underlying thread within the unconscious. It becomes fully supplemental in the triad of instincts. Some people seem to think that in this instance, the instinctual variants are acted upon as 3 equidistant, intersecting, lines and that one can only move along the perimeter of the triangle. Shift your perception to include the fact that one can move *inside* of the triangle, within the area, and it becomes clearer. In fact, someone can stand right in the center of the triangle. Further, is that not the goal? Bodily closeness is an inherently Sp/So and So/Sp act. The body, Sp, reaches out towards another (So) and pulls them in to be as close as possible. Seeing touching, melting into each other's bodies, coexistence and bodily mixing as intimacy. Those that fall furthest from Sx, look towards those of their romantic interest as their body parts first. They wish to get as close as possible, your look and appeal. Collages made by them will feature isolated body parts or wishing to be swallowed whole into a higher concept, such as water (their emotion), absolving themselves of self concept because to exist is to survive. Endure. Looking to the stars, looking towards the unknown, do they wish to place their trust in that higher forces will take care of them. On the other hand, rather than reduce to the body, the Sexual instinct reduces others to their *genes* or *traits* which they will release into the gene pool. It's looking for the perfect *mate*. It's a fully objectifying lens, not seeking closeness but replication as a form of intimacy. The act of sex itself: to penetrate (live), to cum (die), to inseminate/birth (replicate). Thus you will see the femme fatale is a Sexual archetype. There is no use for another when the act of sex has been completed; the object of attraction is granted permission to die. Integrating back into broad definitions of the instinctual variants' individual roles in the personality, the tertiary instinct, *not* the blindspot, is supplementary. If SP is at L2 and SO is at L4, then the sexual instinct still has a gravitational effect on SP and SO, as do they have one on it. You could describe the person as the sun, the Dom as the Earth, Aux as the moon, and Tert as Theia(ignoring the fact that the moon and Theia logically can't coexist, as Theia's impact with Earth is what created the moon. Bare with me though). Curiously, this means that the instincts do not have complete control over one or the other, or that they are subservient to the Dom, but rather they have their own individual influences. However, it is the person themselves which anchors the instincts, not the other way around. Yes, instincts play the most significant role in our lives, but those instincts don't begin to manifest until just before birth. Ultimately more metaphorical approach, this means that Theia or the Tertiary instinct still falls into step along with the other instincts, it's just dancing to the beat of its own drum unlike the moon, the Auxiliary instinct, which is tidal locked. Certain concepts deal with the harmony of the personality, not its discordance and as such when you do introduce concepts such as tri-fix or tritype, you can only use it as a typing maneuver to encompass that which harmonizes, not the cacophony. Some use tritype to explain a push and a pull within their personalities, such as a push and pull between wanting individuality, feeling unique and disconnected from everyone else but also being chronically attached to others, desiring connection and sharing their life. Unfortunately, this is not a 94x, this is simply a 9. An axis between individuality and self-narcotization perfectly describes the inner turmoil of the 9: dissolution in others or complete stagnancy to hold onto what is them. "Do humans have souls?"
Enneagrammer answers this question through pointing to the Social instinct. It's the most traditional view of transcending or absolving oneself of karmic debt. Luckovich specifically references the social instinct as the instinct which searches for the meaning of life; the one would posit the premise of this altogether. To them, the social instinct is the journey to transcendence, as transcendence is to absolve oneself of the self entirely, and instead connect or attach oneself to a higher collective / the collective unconscious / the universe / God / Kami, etc. As they utilize the bhavacakra as a representation of the 6 instinct types, with Sx/So beginning life as the closest to transcendence and as such the easiest life or as they've so titled, "God" for they have already transcended. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have the Sp/Sx, but rather than refer to it as the "Devil," it is instead referred to as "Hell". This is entirely intentional, as to be the devil, one would have transcended to godhood and be aware or at the very least oriented and connected enough into the social realm to act as an antagonistic force against it. In limiting Sp/Sx to, "Hell," Gray attempts to dehumanize the social blinds stemming from the conclusion that they don't have enough personhood to be referred to as a *being* of representation. They are simply, humans in the most animalistic way possible. You'll hear this tooted often on the podcast, how social blinds lack the ability to connect altogether, and as such have no hope of ever being human or even a person. Through my interpretation, I'm actually awarding *more* humanity to social blinds than Gray does. Sx/Sp is referred to as the "Hungry Ghost" because it's looking to restore its humanity by feasting on the souls of those who are worth replicating through based on the gene pool. Obviously, it's determined through the realm of sex. Through feasting on a soul, it's able to take in as much energy as theoretically possible to change and transform itself in hopes of becoming something higher, or perhaps, in his interpretation they aren't even aware of that desire and instead feast aimlessly. You could think of it like a black hole, keeping up with my more astronomical reference of the instinctual variants. To eat and absorb as much energy as possible (live), feel it well up inside like a witch burning at the stake and lose oneself to the scalding of flesh and the melting of innards (die), and then reassimilate, born anew wearing a completely different skin, but retaining the gene pool of the mate and themselves (replicate). A common misinterpretation of the Sexual instinct is that it must be interested in others, intensifies *outward* experiences, is easily visible *outwardly*, wrenches attention towards it, and that it can't go unhidden or veiled even by the deftest of chameleons. Unfortunately, this is actually an incredible social view of the instinct. If someone is constantly looking to incite ire, flame, disrupt the social environment, intensify the social experience, lock onto others, they are using the *social* instinct. To put it simply, Sexual instinct when influenced by Sp intensifies the *inward* experience, and when it's influenced by Social it intensifies the *outward* experience. Social blinds are known for being able to entertain themselves without reaching outward because they are intensifying their own experiences without needing to be other referencing or receive reciprocation or reciprocity. However there's an interesting conundrum. If this possibility exists, why would the Sx/Sp be referred to as the, "Hungry Ghost" if it could simply feast on its own innards and asexually reproduce? That's the thing, *it doesn't*. Sp/Sx is what does that, *NOT* Sx/Sp. There's a difference between looking outward or pushing outward, and looking for *genes* to intensify the *self* or internal experience. In this instance, David Gray's Interpretation makes sense, because then Sx/Sp and Sp/Sx have no reason to be interested in anyone but themselves and the genes they want. Earlier, I referenced cutting as an inherently So/Sp act; using the body as a social statement; "I show my cuts so the world knows my pain and that they're not alone." The Sx/Sp uses cuts as a symbol of *sexual attraction*, the body itself, as a symbol of sexual attraction. It's a way to maneuver the gene pool by showing off their traits, their mating dance, to the person who will cause such visceral change in them that it is akin to self-rebirth. Their tune isn't as visible, or rather, they aren't trying to appeal to as many people as possible for mating purposes, but rather the *one* in the room. Referring back to "God," the Sx/So, we will see that it's referred to as such because it's injecting flame into the social environment, piercing it to the traits that it desires to evolve. So/Sx, dutifly referred to as simply, "Human" because it's what flows naturally, sorting through and orienting one's lens towards others, taking on the beliefs and convictions of others, putting the self out there in order to take care of the off spring as well as use those connections to find the genes that one would wish to spread. Perhaps one could refer to it as a maternal view of the social instinct in this case, because the dominance of the social instinct forces sexual into a more nurturing role. Here, the social instinct is viewed as a softer instinct. What Gray and Luckovich posit with "Sp blindness" is that here none of the energy is taken inward to protect oneself, create boundaries, and intensify one's own; self sacrifice for the sake of the whole. "God," "Humans," and, "Titans," represented by So/Sp; the Titans which procreate and create the gods or rather, facilitate the creation of a world which allows them altogether. The focus is not on procreation, but everything afterwards: society, nurturing, sowing the seeds of creation, dying for their causes, creating a world for others to live in and subsequently, food for the Gods to eat as they are birthed by the Humans on the other side of the heavens. Curiously, they also act as a symbol of reigning in the power of the gods, and acting as a stifling force to stop humanity from going out of bounds and destroying their foundation. This is the dampening effect of Sp, represented by the element of Earth. If you inject the social, represented by the element of Air into the Earth, all that is happening is an expansion of the crust. More space inside of the perimeter is created, but the bounds still exist. Much like when Chronus ate the Gods when they were born and trapped them in his stomach, limiting their growth, ambitions, and imposing a set area of which they were allowed to act. Hopefully, all of this will help everyone understand why this theory refers to Sp/So as, "Animal". The beings which exist in the bounds created by everything else, are poached as food for the Hungry Ghosts, forced into the rules and bounds of the Titans, and endure the revolutions of the Gods attempting to destroy or push the bounds, so that they can escape the limiters. It doesn't grant them significance, it doesn't grant them autonomy, it lowers them to food or fodder.
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twoplustwoequalsfuckyou · 2 years ago
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Instinctual Variants; Visual (and vibes)Typing:
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lumpyorganelle · 7 months ago
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Enneagram Social Instinct (SO)
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Summary of the Social Instinct:
Key words: connection, contribution, participation, adaptation, involvement, mirroring, attunement, cooperation, reciprocation, accommodation
(note: there's a common misconception about the social instinct being correlated to being extroverted or social. This is not the case, introverts (cognitively) can be a social subtype and even the most reserved or quiet individuals. The social instinct is simply the instinctual drive to connect, engage and contribute to others. In some cases, social subtypes can be most prone to social anxiety due to the heightened sensitivity of their position in the world)
Main concerns:
Maintaining the sense of value gained from participating in activities with others (be it group, family, community, friends, colleagues, etc)
to be part of something larger than themselves (social media is a great example of the social instinct, because we all innately are looking to satiate that need for contribution and involvement)
Main focuses:
to establish a social standing/position in society
building personal value, sense of accomplishment and security with others
to know what is going on in the world/community; can manifest as gossiping, world news, celebrities, events, politics, etc.
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Social subtypes are sensitive and attuned to the hierarchical social structure and group norms; emphasis on groups; 'out-groups', 'in-groups'
Have the capacity to form and sustain relationships over a long-period
comprehension of one's position and place (e.g 'am I a loner? Am I accepted? do I have value here?, I feel like an outcast, what do we have in common? Are we close? etc')
nuances of social environments, etiquette, cues, boundaries, status and power, behaviour, etc
being able to understand and sense impact of actions on others
What this can manifest as:
desire for acclaim/fame, attention, popularity, recognition, success, honour, leadership, appreciation, to have high social status, etc
How the Social instinct may manifest when unhealthy/distorted:
Antisocial behaviour, resentment over society and people, anxieties and self-defeating behaviours, overly preoccupied about self-image (to others), fear of exclusion or being devalued, avoidance of social endeavours, cynicism and distrustfulness, etc.
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The Social instinct, however, is actually something much more fundamental. It is a powerful desire, found in all human beings, to be liked, approved of, and to feel safe with others. On our own, we are rather weak and vulnerable and can easily fall prey to a hostile environment. We lack the claws, fangs, and fur of other animals, and if we did not band together and cooperate with each other, it is unlikely that our species, or we as individuals, would be able to survive. Being able to adjust ourselves to others and be acceptable is a fundamental, survival based human instinct.
References:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/comments/14bw32k/are_enneagrammers_instinct_example_thoughts/
https://thepracticalenneagram.com/instincts/social-instinct/
https://www.personalitycafe.com/threads/the-resource-thread-for-instinctual-variants-and-stackings.118168/page-2?nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#replies
https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/comments/14cegz6/being_so_dom_actually_makes_you_less_social/
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subconsciousmysteries · 1 year ago
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sp/sx is the glorified type 8 of dumbogram. What I mean by this is that enneagram cult leaders see this stacking as The Cool Stacking For Edgelords and they gatekeep it like hell. In reality no actual sp/sx would gatekeep sp/sx because the nature of this type is that we do not care what you identify as, we are too self absorbed.
Once again I stress that if you are concerned with your social image of being an Edgelord, like if it's so important to you that you type yourself and others based on it then you probably aren't soc-blind. The exception here is soc-blind 4s and 4-fixes, since 4s are an image type invested in their image of being an edgy outcast no matter what their stacking is. If you aren't a 4 or a 4 fix and you care about your image of edginess, that is soc.
I only gatekeep sp/sx from idiots who preach that being sp/sx means being edgy and being a busybody who tells other people their unwanted opinions about how they're supposedly mistyped. This is literally the opposite of what an sp/sx does or cares about doing. The whole art of going around saying this and that person is mistyped, and dishing out battletypings, is a social power game. Soc-blinds might briefly engage in that stuff then drop out of it and avoid it, because social power games are exhausting and confusing to us. Nobody who does this shit chronically or regularly is a soc-blind.
Regarding being edgy, soc-blinds are often provocateurs but we end up being so unintentionally. Soc-blinds often express our opinions which are detached from the social consensus and get backlash. This is different to being an intentional provocateur... The kind of person who knows they are going to get backlash and speaks anyway because they enjoy the conflict and the arguing. The intentional provocateur stacking is sp-blind.
No sp-dom enjoys conflict unless it has a direct money or resource prize on it.
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liminallovee · 2 years ago
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INFP 7w6 sx/so Moodboard
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