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adragonsfriend · 8 months ago
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Sith! Obi-Wan: Is it even possible?
Sith! Obi-Wan is such a fascinating concept to me, because it’s so unlikely. Like frankly it feels even less likely than Anakin’s redemption, and that redemption being so incredibly unlikely but still possible is literally the thing that makes the OT so powerful. Like it’s baked into the premise.
And Obi-Wan falling can’t be impossible, because that would take all the narrative power out of him always choosing good. But like, this man has literally had everything happen to him, and he doesn’t turn. He has moments where he has to recenter himself, but he always does it. He’s such a wonderful balance of “constantly looks like hot shit” with “but on the deepest level of his soul he’s untouchable.”
It should be impossible.
But I believe it at every turn.
People aren’t fucking around when they describe him as one of the best Jedi there ever was.
So I am fascinated by the idea of a Sith Obi-Wan, because what could possibly turn him?
Not torture, not loss, not grief, not losing his padawan, not having to fight his padawan, not beliving he’d killed his padawan, not finding out he didn’t kill his padawan, not watching over that padawan’s kid for twenty years, not death, not war, not walking away from Satine, not Satine dying in his arms, not losing Qui-Gon Jinn, not Dooku’s best efforts at temptation, not the genocide of his people, not being set on fire, not the existence of the Death Star, not twenty years of being a hermit, not Melida-Daan, not whatever Xanatos was doing, not every atrocity the Empire ever committed,
But it can’t be impossible, because he’s still a human, he’s not the Force itself.
I’ve read some Sith Obi-Wan fics, but they’re all either unconvincing on this point, or have to resort to saying, “Obi-Wan is a Sith but he’s not evil,” as though that isn’t the contradiction of all time (No shade to these fics, not everything needs to be perfectly convincing, and I’m not against writing a character in a certain way just cause of the aesthetic. I know how to use the back button; I kept reading cause I enjoyed them overall).
I just.
I don’t know. Do people have ideas? Theories? Fic recommendations?
Cause my only idea is an Obi-Wan who has literally never heard of the Jedi and was raised from an infant as a Sith and barely resembles the Obi-Wan we know at all.
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marvelstars · 11 months ago
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The fact fandom sees Obi-Wan as an uwu baby at 25 years old while also considering that Anakin should have got his feelings over his mother together at 9 show how bad it can get when we infantilize the characters to suit our vision of them imo.
At 25 Obi-Wan was a grown young adult when he started taking care of Anakin, in fact many people in real life marry and have children at that age, in light of that his hurt feelings and jealousy over Qui-Gon asking him to be knighted, which is supposed to be a good thing, a recognition of his skills, so he could take care of Anakin, show Qui-Gon was right in that Obi-Wan still had some maduration to go but that he was ready to be a Jedi Knight.
ObiWan defeating Maul sealed the deal for the council but it also presents a very problematic precedent, it wasn´t his emotional maturity and wiseness the thing that made Obi-Wan a knight but his dueling skills in his combat with Maul after his master was killed.
In Anakin´s case at 9 he was old to be introduced to the Jedi because he isn´t 4 or 5 but he is very young to be made a padawan, they usually start at 13 or 14 like Ahsoka did. So given Obi-Wan wish to train him to make a reality Qui-Gon´s dying wish, Anakin was made a padawan sooner than when he was supposed to be one, not because he was a kind child who worried about others and wanted to make a lasting change in the galaxy for the slaves, he was made a padawan because of his power potential and the Jedi Order didn´t try to make adecuations to the fact he was old enough to remember seeing slaves being blow up by their masters and the fact his mother was still a slave and in constant danger of this happening to her as well. Nothing of this was addressed with Anakin, he was told in no uncertain terms that his responsibility and compromise with the Jedi Order, which he made at 9, didn´t involve him thinking about his mother or seeing her ever again. Anakin obeyed this dictate until his mother was tortured killed and he had his first fall to the dark side by taking revenge on the tuskens for the murder of his mother.
Later at 19 he is made a Knight not because he had shown a grown in his control over the force or his own feelings but because he was an able soldier with leadership skills which served him well to survive a war in which the majority of the padawans of his generation were killed , at 20 he was made a Jedi master for Ahsoka during war time, he was responsible of teaching her how to be a Jedi while also making sure she didn´t die while also taking care of his troops and giving victories to the Republic all of which he did, even when his padawan was expelled, even when his men were killed for knowing too much like in Fives case and at 23 he was a general and one of the leading Jedi in the war, married to Padme with a child on the way, so Anakin was two years younger than Obi-Wan was when he was still a padawan and meet Anakin for the first time. Anakin fell to the darkside and became Vader when he was 23 years old, two years younger than padawan Obi-Wan.
So If I use the age argument it wasn´t Obi-Wan the one who got pushed into a situation he could not have managed on his own for his age but Anakin definitely was, because of his particular power and skills even if the popular take is that Obi-Wan was a baby at 25 taking care of an ungrateful, unstable almost teenager Anakin as a 9 year old, for many fans Anakin never was a child but he was, the fact he didn´t had an actual childhood is another thing.
But well if we take this in consideration then it makes all the sense in the world Yoda choose to let Anakin´s twins grow up with their families, train Luke when he was an adult and not make him a Knight at 23 if he didn´t deal with his inner conflict over his father but it was Luke´s choice of not wanting to fight or kill his father but rather ask him to come back to him, to the person he used to be, the thing that made the difference. Anakin came back to save his child from his master, himself and the Empire, he gave up his life to give Luke and Luke´s dreams a chance.
So while age certainly is a factor it isn´t everything when it´s about a character grow and choices imo.
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homonymph · 1 year ago
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i think Ahsoka in the mouth of the (space)whale is not just a reference to Pinocchio (and even Finding Nemo, go synergy) but also references the biblical story of jonah and the whale. Ahsoka, like Jonah, had rejected the call to action from the Force (i.e. God) and it is only when Jonah is swallowed by the whale that he reflects, acts for forgiveness, and accepts his mission. I think this is also what part of Anakin's lesson was about, especially when he said "you lack conviction." Ahsoka after leaving the order was directionless, she had lost faith in her mission, her training and in herself. she was "going nowhere." but Anakin is trying to teach her that this is a kind of death in itself. you have to fight to live, you have to fight for it, not just survive. not just stay put. and that's why enlightened ahsoka says it's better to go somewhere than nowhere. she finally wants to live, wants to make things better, not just stop things from getting worse.
also i think this is the first time we ever really get to see/hear from anakin/vader post-rotj and it's so much more full circle to hear him speak and be at peace with both the dark and light sides of the force inside him. i always felt off about how quickly vader turned good/achieved enlightenment and became a force ghost but something about hearing his view of the force really closes that chapter from me. "live or die" might sound like absolutes but i think it's his own contribution to the legacy he was talking about. you have to have a reason to live, you have to have a reason to move on and be, otherwise, you are in a way, dead. something obi-wan learns in his series, and anakin learns once he lets go of the past and saves his son. you have to have an active part in shaping your life, in living.
maybe i'm projecting a bit of myself in here but i think that reading of it is somewhere in there and explains why i'm so emotional about this episode. but dave filoni has given us a brilliant, nuanced arc and philosophy and i am so grateful. i haven't been this excited and invested in a piece of star wars content in a long, long time.
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loubella77 · 2 months ago
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I know it was the other day but I forgot to talk ab it, this is a quality payment!!! Haven’t had a sale this big in so long!!!
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glitterandsalt · 1 year ago
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Tiktok cosplayers are bemoaning how erocosplay models with OFs are being hired for paid work at cons and it's making creepy guys come to cons and treat everyone like a porn star - sounds like a problem with the ppl doing the hiring but nah lol let's just shit on swers!
Also lol thanks for blaming erotic models for men being shitty, which we know they do even in the lack of a feminine presence. Nah, it's easier to blame hard working people just bc you feel some sort of way about what they do and how they do it.
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latentorogeny · 1 year ago
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ok not to go off on a rant.. but it makes me so sad that the sequel trilogy sucked butt,,, i wanted to like it so bad, and ofc there are things/ characters from those films that i do like!! however,, there is so much wasted potential. It had a chance to be SO good! I feel like everyone got so caught up in making a star wars movie that they didn’t stop and think “wait, does this make sense for this character/ scene/ dialogue ?”
Idk,, i have a lot of feelings abt the sequel movies. It just makes me sad because i know how good they COULD be.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE they gave Finn and Poe such great chemistry and then chickened out from making them gay OR EVEN EXPANDING ON THEIR FRIENDSHIP??
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pirdmystery · 6 months ago
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compilation of some of my favorite comments on the starcruiser video since i can’t shut up about it
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dumbbitchgalore · 2 months ago
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Sex Worker!Reader who works in a brothel in Amsterdam that John regularly visits when he’s in the area.
When Price is in town, you make sure to free up your schedule cause this man books you in for days on end and pays you by the hour and absolutely hates it when you say that you’ll give him a discount.
He takes you around the city, shows you places outside of the red light district. Places you’ve seemingly forgotten from all the years that you’ve worked in a brothel.
And for some reason with John these places look even brighter than they did in your childhood. A familiar sense of warmth and comfort spreads within you before lust consumes you wholly when you find yourself cock-drunk underneath him.
Your time with John always been shorten than it really was. At first it was a business transaction, providing pleasure for money. But now it was beginning to feel different, mimicking a false sense of domestic bliss.
Were you beginning to fall for your client?
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adragonsfriend · 6 months ago
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I’m going to go off about this because it’s one of the things that has most deeply complicated my relationship to fandom over the years.
I am often disappointed/horrified by the section of fandom that looks at characters who go though some something bad and decides that they have to have gone though the worst possible version of the bad thing every time, every day, every second of their existence was suffering.
Don’t get me wrong—there are absolutely situations like that, and they can exist in fiction—
But when that’s the only reaction, and when it deliberately ignores cannon evidence* to imagine a character as just a bucket of angst and nothing else, it ignores a lot of complexity and implicitly supposes that whatever trauma/abuse/etcetera happened in canon wasn’t “bad enough” to justify either the the character’s reaction to it, or the audience’s potential sympathy for the character.
*I’d like to note the caveat that often people write, especially fanfic, projecting situations they actually experience onto characters as a way of processing or having characters who are like them. This is incredibly valid, and the fics I’m addressing are ones that specifically do not give me that impression.
Whether it’s just gratuitous angst and violence for no reason, or a conscious idea of “well if they’d just suffered more obviously then I could understand—”
The way this manifests with Anakin is typically either supposing that when he was enslaved he was constantly like, physically on the edge of death from beatings or starvation (as though simply the knowledge of the chips and the psychological impact of slavery we are shown in the movies isn’t “bad enough” to impact him for the rest of his life). Or it happens by adding physical or sexual abuse to Palpatine’s grooming (as though isolating Anakin from everyone who loves him and his own values isn’t “bad enough” to be considered a serious form of abuse).
These depictions can and—because they are stories real people have—should be done well. But adding things like that has to also mean committing as a writer to making it a real focus of the story, and including a lot of complexity and deep understanding of the suffering involved. Just adding extra as a cherry on top doesn’t work.
On a writing level, it typically leads to character bashing because author and readers are forced by an overly simple narrative to see one character as a paragon of suffering and everyone else as both evil and stupid (I’m looking at Star Wars, marvel, Harry Potter, lucifer, and so on).
On a real level, it invalidates people’s actual suffering by implying that it isn’t bad enough to evoke sympathy or to have a lifelong impact. It’s all the toxic positivity of “oh well you could’ve been hurt worse so does what you actually went through even matter? Just get over it,” but delivered implicitly in a nice little box labeled “fandom.”
Also, looking at the figures typically granted what I will call “paragon of suffering” status, it’s almost always conventionally attractive cis white men, (Anakin, Obi-Wan, and to go outside of SW, Tony Stark, Loki, Lucifer, basically if there’s a fandom you can name the character) indicating that this pattern is acting according to our larger societies racial and gender biases (bc of course) and not according to actual demographics or even cannon evidence.
What makes adding gratuitous abuse/trauma/violence without complexity an attractive idea for people who have not actually gone through it…well I’m not fully sure, but it’s a voyer’s interest (and not in the fun way), it’s not helpful or educational, and unfortunately, it works to draw people in. It worked on me all the time in middle school, it worked on me last year in my first few months of being in the SW fandom.
It’s possible I’m just uniquely fucked up, but I doubt it.
I think maybe it’s sating the urge that brought audiences to the Colosseum and filled the stands of the Boonta Eve Classic. Admittedly, writing fucked up things is much better than watching bloodsports, but it’s still that same urge to witness suffering without experiencing it oneself.
If I were feeling poetic—and when am I not—I would look at that desire for suffering not our own, that schadenfreude, and I would call it the dark side.
Tldr; what OP said: comparing characters trauma to others or to themself is useless and leads to bad outcomes
"Obi-Wan suffered more than Anakin"
self-righteous bitch with an ego only recognizes the suffering of people who cope in socially acceptable ways
"Anakin suffered more than Obi-Wan"
morally questionable bitch with low self esteem trying to bring other people down a few pegs to make themselves feel better
"Suffering isn't a contest. It is impossible to compare Obi-Wan's and Anakin's suffering."
The only acceptable statement.
"I agreed with the previous statement purely in order to get people's attention for when I immediately make it into a contest again."
the worst kind of bitch there is 🖕
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ebisul · 3 months ago
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I have a huge problem with any time someone starts treating the Jedi like space Christianity because it fundamentally misrepresents the Jedi and the Force
The Jedi are not Christianity. The Jedi are religion as a whole. Thats why it pulls from so many different real life religions, yeah that includes methodism and buddhism.
The force is not God and the Jedi don’t treat it as such. The force is love and compassion.
They do not force their beliefs onto anyone either. There are so many religions and understandings of the Force that coexist with the Jedi. You can not say the same for the Sith.
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peanuttoffee · 6 months ago
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The Bad Batch finale missing scene
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Yeah I needed that…
May the 4th be with you!🙌
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adragonsfriend · 6 months ago
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“Yoda is blind to his flaws and the Jedi orders flaws and he needs a wake up call—”
Actually Yoda is the reliable narrator of all time, and lowkey I think a lot of the dislike of him is based in the same ideology that says, “don’t even worry about it gen-z and gen alpha are gonna fix everything save the world,” because so many people that dislike Yoda are also like, “yeah anakin and Ahsoka had everything perfect.” Which, don’t get me wrong I love both of them, but they are very much learning (Ahsoka) and or failing (Anakin) most of the time.
Yoda (and the rest of the council) do not fit into the current generational dynamic in the US (idk if other countries even bother splitting up generations this way, let alone in the same groupings, especially because no country got to have the same post-WWII experience as the US), and neither do any of the other Jedi.
Stop projecting your problems with boomers onto the Jedi Council; *waves hand mysteriously*: those are not the old people in leadership positions you are looking for
You know you're actually looking for? Tarkin, Orn'free Ta, Palpatine, and the ENTIRE SENATE. They are seriously right there.
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jediavengers · 4 months ago
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𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐲 𝐛𝐨𝐲 ⋆ ˚。⋆
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warnings: 18+, smut, mild dumbification, degradation, slapping, forced orgasm, power dynamics, sub!anakin, dom!reader, crying, mentions of alcohol
pairing: sub!bratty!anakin x reader
“5 times. 5 times today you’ve pressed your luck, and i’m done with it.” You slam the door behind you as you storm in your apartment behind Anakin.
“You’re being dramatic, I didn’t even-“
You quickly turned on your heel. A harsh slap across his face to shut him up.
“Dramatic? Do you remember what happened the last time you spoke to me like that?” You snap, your words cold and quiet.
All day Anakin had been a little brat. He’d made several remarks that were unnecessarily rude, slapped your ass multiple times in public settings and tried using the force to touch you.
He was downright careless, doing these things where anyone could see. And you were done with his bullshit.
“Bedroom. Now.”
Anakin’s eyes widened, realizing you weren’t messing around. No, you were mad.
He quickly listened, nearly running to your bedroom.
“Better be stripped and on the bed by the time I get back there.” You shout down the hallway, then you turn to the kitchen to pour yourself a glass of wine. Maker knows you needed it.
After you quickly downed the glass, you stormed back to your shared bedroom. There he was, in all his naked glory, laying on his back with a worried look on his pretty face.
His painfully hard cock gave him away.
“Been acting up all day just because you’re fucking horny,” Your words were venomous and came out angrily as you leaned against the door frame. “You really thought I was going to give you what you want? After the way you acted today? Could’ve gotten us in big trouble if anyone saw.”
You took a few steps closer to the bed, causing him to squirm. His cock was painfully hard. The tip was a bright rosy pink, pre-cum leaking out of it and pooling at the base of his dick.
Anakin’s eyes were glossy and his lips were swollen from him biting them so hard. “I-I’m sorry- you’ve just been s-so preoccupied and I-“
“If you want my attention, you ask,” You spit, shaking your head and grabbing a vibrator out of your bedside table. “You don’t act like a little bitch in front of a bunch of people.”
Anakin’s eyes widen and he stutters. “I’m sorry! I p-promise I won’t do it again-“
“Isn’t that what you said last time? And last time I let you off the hook. You need a good reminder of why you are supposed to listen to what I tell you.”
You quickly climb onto the bed, your expression seething. Turning on the vibrator, you immediately put it on the highest setting. Then you harshly grab his dick, wrapping your hand tightly around his shaft.
Anakin lets out a yelp that’s a mixture of pleasure and pain.
“Shut up.” You seethe, gripping his cock harder. A few tears roll down his face and you briefly feel bad. But after feeling his cock twitch in your hands, your sympathy flutters away, knowing he was enjoying your anger.
You begin to quickly pump his cock and place the vibrator on his tip, giving him no foreplay or buildup.
Anakin lets out a cry of pain and he arches his back, pre-cum leaking out of his tip and soaking the vibrator.
“Please- no!” He cries out, causing you to smirk. He may act like he wasn’t enjoying it, but the little bitch was. He knew his safe word, and he wasn’t using it.
“No? No what? No, don’t stop?” You began pumping his cock faster, wet sounds bouncing off the walls as you squeezed him tightly.
“Gonna-“ Anakin whined.
“No. Don’t you dare fucking cum.”
You took the vibrator and your hand away, causing him to gasp and let out a cry. His cheeks were soaked with tears and bright red. His pretty curls clung to his sweaty forehead. “Please- please.. i’m so s-sorry.. i’ll do better. I’m your good boy, remember? You- you know i’m your good boy!”
You scoffed, shaking your head. “You want to be a good boy? Fucking act like one.”
You began to aggressively pump his dick again and placed the vibrator at his ballsack. Anakin threw his head back and began to squirm, crying out. “Please!” He sobbed.
“Please? You’re so pathetic. Fine, cum.” You chided, stroking him quickly. You felt his cock twitch in your hands and you squeezed right below his tip, pumping him shallowly to make him cum.
God, he was pathetic.
He let out the most pornographic sounds as he came, spurts upon spurts of his seed squirting onto his stomach, your hands and some on the bed.
You didn’t stop there. Your stroking got quicker and more aggressive. “Give me another one, Ani. Come on.”
Anakin tried to squirm away, but you angrily squeezed his cock, causing him to yelp. “No-please! Stop!”
“Shut the hell up.” You demand, continuing to stroke him at an animalistic pace.
Anakin let out a loud moan, his cock twitching in your hands and spurting more of his seed out onto his stomach.
You egged him through his second orgasm and pulled away, shaking your head. “Next time you act like a little child, you remember this. Cause I’m not finished with you.”
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omaano · 4 months ago
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Omega and Batcher looking for some lost brothers in the Hades AU
Omega: "You're a bounty hunter, that means you're good at finding people, right? Except... I don't have many credits on me, so maybe I can help you on the job in exchange? You know, as payment! I've got my bow, and I'm a great pilot too. You can ask Tech when we find him. And Batcher could help to follow a scent, she is a very good tracker, you know." Din: "... I really don't think I should be taking jobs from kids... *sigh* Look, my main objective right now is to find Grogu a Jedi teacher, but if I come across this... Tech during my travels I will let you know, deal?"
Din cannot adopt another kid, he already has one that comes with a Very Important Mission, after all. Hopefully Rex or Cody will keep and eye on Omega and her dog.
(On the other hand, please don't get your hopes up, Echo is the only one who will make it into this AU from the Bad Batch, sorry.)
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leon-anna · 1 year ago
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It has been a HOT minute since we last posted!!
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Anna and I have been quite busy recently, and it doesn't help that I've been going through art block on top of that!
So, until we get some things sorted out, here is a simple Rex/Fives doodle of them after a routine sparring session~
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kikakat17 · 1 month ago
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Thank you fof changing my life for the better you crazy kids!
Happy Rebels Anniversary
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