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remember when john shot (grazed) sam’s shoulder over a hot dog in the comics
thank you dabb & loflin
#this was after john made sam miss his high school graduation to go to nyc to chase a lead about mary's killer#and sam yelled at john that mary was dead and would hate what john did to their family#and john backhanded sam#and sam spent the night in the nyc sewers#they had no money for food and sam stole a hot dog and john started eating it and sam pulled his gun on him#then john shot him and said if you’re gonna point your gun at someone you better be ready to use it#and then got mad when a guy they were working with patched sam’s jacket#well it was his wife but at their house#comics john was such a villain that he made show john look good#and the end of the comic was an alternate ending to sam running away to stanford#the comics are so funny#supernatural beginning’s end#spn#sam winchester#john winchester
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season one of supernatual is so funny to me. sam and dean will literally show up to the crime scene in some fuck ass flannels and dean is in his leather jacket and the cops are like "who the hell are you?" and dean will be like "oh, us? well we are obviously from the us fish and wildlife service who else could we possibly be???"
meanwhile theyre in the craziest outfits known to mankind with no badge or anything, so the cops will ask for their IDs and they'll hand them the most unconvincing fake id you'll ever see. the thing will be crumpled to no return and look like it was all hand written by a toddler and SOMEHOW THE COPS STILL BELIEVE THEM??
and then, they'll start questioning the victims family like "aw man :( I'm so sad for you :( that must be really hard :( so like what happened? and on a completely separate note, did you see anything? feel a temp drop? did you feel a cold spot? did you see something weird? like a creature mayhaps? like a ghost? did you see a ghost? do you believe in ghosts? please tell me it's a ghost?" like that's a totally normal line of questioning for a random drowning from two members of the us fish and wildlife service.
#i forgot that yes. this show is actually insane from beginning to end#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#sam winchester#supernatural rewatch?
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EVERY TOUCH EVER ☞ 189/?
15.18 Despair
#destiel#deancas#dean winchester#castiel#supernatural#spn#spnedit#destieledit#deanedit#casedit#spndaily#spncreatorsdaily#userbbelcher#userstream#*dcete#*mine#15.18#with: jack#with: sam#the beginning of the end...#happy 5th 💚💙
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i'm going to move on from supernatural posting, i swear to god, but first i'm going to talk about ep 9x07 bad boys
the episode itself is fine and good (i mean it's another example of dean having a support network while sam can't have anyone and dean keeping secrets while when sam does it it's the worst betrayal ever but that's not what this is about and sometimes i think about what this show did two earnest, loving traumatized characters by turning them into the most tragic versions of themselves and - ok, this really isn't what this post is about)
but fandom interpretation of this episode actually drives me up a wall because it does a disservice to literally every character
one, john did not leave them without enough money for food. dean gambled it and lost it. there's nothing in canon to say that john was taking longer than expected, that they were running out of money, none of that. dean gambled food money and lost it and then tried to steal to make up for it. he was 16 when this happened and it was a bad decision but i don't think he should be at all vilified for this. he made a dumb mistake and then tried to fix it with another dumb mistake. john was right to be mad and sam was also right to tell him that he shouldn't beat himself up about it. just like with shtriga - yeah, dean was climbing the walls stuck in that hotel room. but you know who else was stuck in that hotel room? sam. and he didn't get a break to go play at the arcade. again, i'm not blaming dean here, he shouldn't have been stuck taking care of his brother that young and he was a kid and john leaving his his children behind while hunting a child eater, whether he was using them for bait or not, is crazy. but dean stealing food wasn't about john's neglect and all the sacrifices dean had to make for sam. it was about him trying to fix his fuck up
two, and this is the one that really gets me, dean didn't go back with john because he had to take care of sam
listen. listen to me. i am speaking from experience when i say this
parentified siblings are still, first and foremost, siblings. especially with only 4 years between them. the show shameless i think did an absolutely excellent job with this and is why i love the first few seasons of it so much. fiona is without a doubt parentified, she is raising those kids, but she's also clearly their sister not their mother
i know later seasons dean and fandom like to make it seem like dean literally raised sam and john was just a background figure but like. that's not realistic, and frankly doesn't even make sense
the reason dean leaves sonny and goes with john isn't because he feels like he has to keep him sam safe. it's isn't because he feels like he has to raise him. it's because he loves him
you are reducing dean to the most pathetic woe is me archetype with this interpretation and ridding him of all his rich loyalty and care and love to saddle him instead with comparatively flat duty. dean is more than sam's caretaker. he's his brother
there's also no reason for dean to feel this way. he just massively fucked up in taking care of sam - that's why he's with sonny in the first place. john has alternate people to take care of sam when he can't do it himself, as he has just proven, and while i don't think we should turn a couple teenage mistakes into making dean incapable, dean absolutely would - and did! he carries every fuck up regarding sam with him! so right now he's really, really low when it comes to his own estimation to take care of sam and leaving sonny because of that doesn't make any sense
but he looks at his brother and is reminded how much he missed him and loves him and realizes staying means he loses his brother. the good and the bad. so he goes, because he loves sam more than anything else
this is also why sam leaving for stanford cuts him so deep. that's why this moment is a parallel to that rather than being unrelated. stanford isn't about sam leaving dean even though he has a duty to care of him, because he doesn't. dean's 22 and at this point is always hunting with their father so there's no reason for sam to believe his presence is necessary for either john or dean's safety
no, dean's mad because he chose his love for his brother over a normal life and sam didn't
(sam didn't want to choose at all but this isn't about him)
anyway. dean fucks up sometimes and john sucks but not quite in the ways fandom thinks and dean loves his brother past reason or sense
#the 07 writers strike causing s3 to end with dean going to hell rather than sam descending into a demon power trip to save him#was actually the beginning of the end to good characterization of this show#you tried to make this other path work and you ruined both my boys with it#sorry but luke skywalker and han solo are both infinitely better characters when they remain luke skywalker and han solo#rather than trying to fuse them together#supernatural#this is your grandma talking
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No matter how angry dean is, the second cas is in danger he becomes a worried little husband
#and they use this little detail everytime they have a fight#in season six / beginning of season 7#during lily sunders has no regrets#the end of the divorce arc#and I’m sure I’m forgetting other instances#dean winchester#castiel#destiel#spn#deancas#supernatural
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okay but the fact that dean and cas are BOTH made for each other and at the same time they willed their love. they made it happen, knowingly, loving each other with every bit of consciousness they had, that they gained with one another. cas was always a rebellious angel, but this is the only universe where he actually rebelled—for dean. that he didn’t do what he was told, where he defied God and fate and the universe. they may not love each other in Every universe, and that may have been their only chance (</3) But Fuck if that isn’t even more poetic. the fact they weren’t linked by some intertwined invisible string but they actually chose to fall in love with each other. every day they made that choice, consciously or not. every day they chose each other. every day they woke up and fought for their love. and like i do think that at some level they were kinda destined for each other, i mean, they Are soulmates, but not in the divine sense yk like chuck did brought castiel over and over because of dean and they are not just two random dudes that fell in love; they were indeed ��brought together” but ultimately They—and only they—changed the entire narrative bc that WASN’T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. castiel was supposed to obey, to comply; dean was supposed to hate all angels and supernatural beings, and yet they were the only real thing in the entire cosmos. they were the only real thing in chuck’s story, their love, the bond they forged—one that wasn’t even supposed to exist, at least not like that. like they really did that Huh they invented free will right then and there to the point even the writers had to change the original script so castiel would come back (i’m pretty sure he was only supposed to be in a few episodes). love so strong they changed the narrative (both of them). cas love for dean was so strong that even tho he was brainwashed and trained to kill dean over and over and over again, the moment that dean needed cas—dean who doesn’t need any one btw—the connection broke, cas broke free. dean love for cas was so strong that even tho he had the moc, the moment that cas asked for him to stop, he did, he couldn’t kill cas, not with cas touching him and not fighting back (btw i love this parallel with all my heart and also cas-collete parallel hellooo?). dean also loved cas so much that even tho he was by fate bound to amara, the moment she did something to cas he immediately went against her, like even she realized that his love for cas was stronger than their bond—even tho his and amara bond was literally inevitable, like it just would happen. and then again we prove that the choice of dean and cas love for each other was so much more strong than anything that chuck could’ve written, stronger than any fate or ineffable plan or anything. and like cas’ love is so strong that i do think would resonate in every universe, but not because they were supposed to happen. on the contrary, specifically because they weren’t a thing, it were so strong to the point it changed everything that it could also happen in every other universe yk like i firmly believe cas would always find dean but not because of fate but because of his love
#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#destiel#deancas#castiel#free will#i love you intentionally#i chose this love#i chose me and you every day#what’s real? we are#we are real#love him to the point it changes the narrative course#yes they are soulmates yes they defied gods entire plan and made each other true#our love isn’t some cosmic sign#it’s the work of my own conscience#it’s my own free will#it’s a testament to the power of choice#i knit the threads of fate until they spelled your name#there is no one else for me#i begin and end with you#i made this happen#we made this happen
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yall ever think about how Jon becomes both the anglerfish and its victim
In reading the statement he locks himself onto the path to his own destruction but also to becoming the figure in the shadows waiting to ask a question. He will lure you in, unassuming, and then it’s too late. The anglerfish goes after smokers, like Jon, and becoming an avatar functions as an addiction metaphor… what a podcast
#the magnus archives#Hey guys I’m not dead#jon sims#jarchivist#mag 001#when the tragedy was inevitable 😍#When the beginning sets the end in motion 😍#When supernatural addiction metaphors 😍#tma#shouldn’t post this at 1 am and yet
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if i think about adam milligan for too long i will honestly start crying.
#it was always going to end like this he’s been dead since the beginning!!!#i hope he and michael went back to med school. i hope he got better and never saw his idiot brothers or any other angels ever again#adam milligan#supernatural#m rambles
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Stackednatural- 29/327
Back and to the Future (15x01) October 10th, 2019
#supernatural#spn#sam winchester#dean winchester#cas#castiel#belphegor#Belphegor spn#Belphegor supernatural#spnedit#supernaturaledit#stackednatural23#*#the beginning of the end...
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Song: End of Beginning by Joe Keery
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john in the comics is so funny, every other page he’ll be like ugh sam hates me, then he reflects on exactly why his actions would make sam hate him, then he’ll be like unfortunately i cannot change
#that’s very in character but everything else about john is just too over the top#he’s much more ruthless and an asshole and of course he doesn’t have jdm’s acting to make you empathize with him#and he physically abuses sam and psychologically fucks sam and dean up that he’s basically a villain lol#sorry dabb#spn#supernatural beginning’s end#sam winchester#john winchester
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🩸Bloody Dean Every Episode🩸- 15x19 Inherit the Earth
#god i kind of love this scene#especially deans “that's not who i am” like that was the one good thing the writers did for the ending#also this is the end of s15!! next i will be starting back at the beginning with s1-s8#bloodydeanseries#bloody dean#my beloved<3#spn 15x19#spnedit#deanedit#cowboycoven#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#tusersana#usermoogs#tw flashing
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The key difference between Supernatural and The Winchesters on both a textual and metatextual level is that Supernatural is a story told by an authorgod who wants to use these characters to entertain himself and feed his own ego, whereas The Winchesters is a story told by a son and a brother and a father who loves these characters and wants to give them all the things he didn't get to have.
Danneel really meant it when she said "remember, it's about the love."
#spn is a story with love on the outside fighting to get in#spnwin is a story that's about love beginning to end#supernatural#the winchesters#spn#spnwin
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thinking... maybe there's something to be said about soul survivor and salvation. this would be the first time sam has actually saved dean in the show since faith. sam has protected dean several times by sacrificing himself, but every time sam has tried to save dean's life in the same way dean so often saves sam, he's failed. i didn't think about this at first, but curing dean of being a demon really should count as saving dean's life.
so that opens the door for the interpretation that by giving himself into codependency at the end of season 9, and through the role reversal that persists through seasons 9-10, sam is able to step into dean's shoes, which does involve saving his brother's life because that's what dean does. in that case, it's another way which the narrative rewards their codependent relationship: the more codependent they get, the more capable they are of keeping each other alive (the most important thing). it's not until sam wholeheartedly embraces a codependent relationship with dean that he finally sees success in his endeavors to revive dean and bring him home to him. by contrast, dean was able to bring sam back all those times because he was all in with their tangled-up, unhealthy relationship from the start.
insane show for insane people. seriously
#supernatural#wincest#i will never stop talking about 9.23-10.04 sorry#this show is so crazy for rewarding codependency and unhealthy attachment. i appreciate that#spn is like if you don't give up all of your independence and personhood you'll never be able to achieve what you really want#you are a failure unless you define yourself by your brother and he defines himself by you. unless you are two halves of one whole#unless there is no end to you and no beginning to your brother. unless everything about you is inextricable from him#.txt#the winchester gospel#spn posting#spn10.03#spn10
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I’m about to finish the series within a week. And I’m gonna start it again because of the neverending brainrot. No care in the world lol who would be interested in a play by play of the wincest from my POV from the beginning to the end?
Interact if you guys would be interested?!? 🩷
#wincest#supernatural#sam winchester#samdean#dean winchester#sam x dean#wincest brainrot#im gonna start from the beginning to the end#season 1#to#season 15
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#I really want it but $120 is alot to spend on a jacket I can only wear for 3-ish months out of the year.#i live in Chicago where we experience all seasons so realistically I’d wear it end of Sept-beginning of Nov and mid April-beginning of May#supernatural#spn#sam’s carhartt#carhartt#sam winchester#sammy#sammy winchester#sam winchester’s carhartt#spn polls#supernatural polls#sam girl#destiel#sastiel#saileen
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