#stray kids theories

[marcillfll]

hello~

as promised, today I'm posting some of the theories related to skz lore

another achtung, this is my opinion and just assumptions based on information from different sources :з

and sorry for the mistakes <3

At the moment this is the last part of my thoughts about the new trailer. Well, at least those that I was able to put together into something unified and understandable. This time, finally, let's talk about the lore of the skz, about their "personalities" and what I suppose all this could mean for the continuation of the story.

So, we have already discussed what is shown in individual scenes and talked about references to albums. And, again, despite the fact that I have determined each of them as specific album, I cannot deny references to their other clips and comebacks. I also noted them in the first post with theories. But what does this mean for the history of the skz? There have been suggestions that this is a restart of their universe. I saw an interesting theory that this comeback is for fixing of past mistakes. And you know, these theories are INCREDIBLY interesting. Anyways I really think that this is still not a restart, but a continuation of the story.

So, what is the essence of the story, and what exactly are we continuing. Probably, you all have different knowledge of the lore of the band, as, in fact, I do, because for the most part these are all theories that have not been officially confirmed. Of course, we have all sorts of trailers like exclusive jype videos (well, like a prequel, etc.) and making film videos, thanks to which, thank God, we can find out at least some details. (As an example, a movie club drama, if there weren't making film, we wouldn't know that Seungmin and Jeongin had a fight, and Han was the cause of the accident with Lee Know, but we got distracted), but still most of the story remains for self-understending.

Crawling through YouTube, tumbler and tweeter, I came across a theory about time substitution (I didn't remember the word to describe it, if there is someone who can let me know, I will be glad ~). The theory was that the events shown in Maxident occur before the events shown in Oddinary. At the end of the Maxident, we see a kind of crime scene in which there are references to the scenes of the boys in the trailer. However, only to six. Who do you think is missing? Exactly, Felix and Jeongin.

To begin with, there are few arguments in favor of the fact that these two eras took place in the same universe.

Changbin's hand, in Oddinary he was the one who held a sign with the inscription "Free Hugs".

Of course, EVERYONE was talking about Hyunjin's apple (and if not, then yes).

Minho plays with a car toy and knocks down tin cans, the same he hits with a golf stick in Oddinary, almost blowing off the head of Lix.

Seungmin takes pictures with a bear in Maxident, in Oddinary he is a photographer, hands Felix a cake with his child's photo (children love soft toys and ride bicycles).

In the trailer itself there are spoilers to the Maxident: the time on the electronic clock is 14:03, on the mechanical 10:07 (the release date of the case).

But if we return to the theory that these events occur after, then this is not a spoiler, but a flashback or a hint. Something happened in Maxident that caused the skz to be replaced by their "evil" copies or personalities. (Honestly, there are so many different opinions about clones, but let's be honest, the only escaped clone we've seen is Jeongin. Yes, there were others in the Astronaut, but they remained in that world and did not even react to Hyunjin who came to them. In addition, I am more inclined to believe that these were not clones at all, but still their personalities from another world. And the only clone is, again, Iennie, who appeared back in the era of I am not music in the trailer). Let's return to the substitution for "evil" personalities. Do you remember "Felix never bad"? He is the only one who was not affected by what happened in Maxident (and even if we do not know what is this, it could be some kind of consequences of the battle with the Sound Monster from Noeasy. By the way, who was this monster? What if Lix from another universe, because the force with which "our" Felix repelled the attack is extremely similar to the attack itself... That could explain, why it didn't work on him). A little adjustment, the only one of the "real" skz. The second, whose traces are not at the crime scene, is Jeongin, the presumable culprit of what happened to the boys.

In Oddinary's trailers, we see Felix walking around looking for his friends.

He holds the lock in his hands all the time and constantly opens and closes it. It seems to me that the lock symbolizes their's era of that time. Before that, they had "Cle" = keys, finished it and got into a new world, they opened all the locks, each with their own key (there was also a long way, loss of keys, etc. but in the end, probably, they were all found and found their locks). And this gesture of opening and closing is a kind of sign that Felix no longer knows in which world he should look for friends. In the present, they are missing, and perhaps he is talking about going back and looking for them there. But, fortunately or unfortunately, he finds Oddinary, in which he meets the "evil" entities of his friends. Here we return again to the importance of color theory in lore. In Thunderous, we were shown that evil is red, and good (aka skz) is blue. And if you look, you will notice that Felix in Oddinary is represented in blue tones, while the rest of the guys are in red, which indicates their evil nature now. And, again, everyone except Jeongin. He is in the trailer in blue tones, the scene turns red when he enters the "territory" of Seungmin. It turns out that he did not change his character, he is "himself". Or rather, his probably evil copy initially. The others have lost their memories of their real selves, but not Jeongin, because he is already an "evil double", so his colors are different from the others.

At the end of the trailer, Hyunjin pushes Felix and he joins the "evil" personalities, becoming the same. In the new trailer for "5 star", he is the most inadequate, crazy Joker, "conductor", because he directs the group in the right direction (is it really right? quite possibly).

At the end of Oddinary's trailer, the lock, which I assume is a way of moving through the worlds, breaks, which entails the destruction of the boundary between the worlds. Therefore, in the new trailer, all past comebacks are represented by references, so the personalities of romantics and villains are mixed, which is why it is so chaotic and ambiguous. The worlds that were previously beyond a clear boundary are now mixed up, mixing the personalities of the boys. At the end of the 5-star trailer, they walk along the side of the building, buildings located perpendicular to the screen are visible in the distance. Either this is a new world formed because of everything that happened, or it is a "chaos" born because of the erased boundary between the former "lower" and "upper" worlds. And, perhaps, they will in some sense encounter their other personalities.

Thus, in a sense, they now really have the opportunity to "fix" those mistakes that they made on the way. Perhaps this is what Felix wanted, if it really happens in the end? And maybe they'll finally find the real I.N and bring him back to the family? BANG CHAN YOU'VE LOST YOUR BABY HELLO!

Thats all for now~

Maybe i will post some details about Felix as a possible Sound monster c:

[etrevil]

I want to hear the original plan for these two, because they're younger in this image (and was drawn years before Fifteen the novel), and there's changed details, like Dazai's broken leg instead of his fake-broken arm.

I'm just imagining them being friends at a much younger age, being stupid, then stupider when puberty comes in. I wanna learn about Chuuya's time with Kouyou and Dazai with Mori. I want to learn about what the could have been and if they'd be the same as they are now.

[dazaistabletop]

I wonder if Crime is the evil Fyodor and Punishment is the terrified Fyodor

Crime Punishment

[lovereadandwrite]

Fyodor would absolutely invent a medieval cello just so he could celebrate😌🎶🎻 my tlkt0k: sarahdeleonart

[sapphiclinos-moved]

wow

[kaciidubs]

you're writing skills 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 babe how are you?? first time writing you an anon but! I'm curious to know which kink you think jisung has? 😼 I'm the biggest simp for that man

Hehe I'm glad you like my writing!! Other than being insanely horny over 8 men [and an additional 20+ that will go unnamed for the time being], I'm completely, 100% okay! [this is a lie, I haven't known peace in years] On to the kink talk!

Kink Breakdown - Han Jisung [Short Ver.]

❣ Summary: Kink Breakdown - Jisung Edition, short version ❣  ❣ Word Count: 331 ❣ Warnings: Kink theorizing; spit kink, mommy kink, exhibitionism, pegging, decryphilia, feminization [M receiving] ❣  ❣ Female! Reader Implied [No use of Y/N] | You/Your pronouns ❣  ❣ Additional Tags: Han is referred to as Jisung, this list can grow over time, but for now these are my top 8 kinks for Jisung! ❣ Stray Kids Masterlist ❣ General Masterlist

So, in my mind's eye, I see Jisung as a switch leaning sub - now, this isn't to say that he never doms, but more often than not he'd rather be bent to your will.

Kinks:

Overall;

✧ Messy Sex + Spit - Jisung likes messy sex, and I mean messy; spit, drool, tears, your cum on him, his cum on you, the whole nine yards.

When Subbing;

✧ Humiliation/Degradation - more so along the lines of "Oh, you want me sooo bad, huh?", make fun of how needy he is, how utterly desperate he is for your touch, for your attention, and he's putty in your hands in an instant.

✧ Pegging - this one's pretty self explanatory, wanna hear him make those pretty whimpers of his? Peg him. Put him in missionary if you wanna see his face all red and pretty, an arm thrown over to hide the blush and the tears of pleasure. Put him in doggy if you wanna make an imprint of your hand on that cute, tiny ass of his. Make him ride you if he's feeling utterly insatiable.

✧ Decryphilia - he shares this one with Felix imo, he just feels so good, he can't help the tears that form when he's inside of you or vice versa.

✧ Feminization - four words; Jisung in a skirt. Just, let it simmer for a bit.

✧ Exhibitionism - this one's more complex, where as he doesn't want to be watched, but the idea of being watched has him dizzy - maybe play around with a blindfold and tell him to think of his members seeing him like this, he'll go crazy and come just as fast.

✧ Mommy/Miss - yeah... just yeah.

When Domming;

✧ Overstimulation - this one's a shared 50/50, but he loves being able to make you melt at the will of his tongue, fingers, and/or cock, it boosts his ego and makes him proud that he's able to make someone as wonderful as you crumble for him.

[hopelessskznatic]

SKZ as ATEEZ songs

Chan: Work

Lee Know: The Black Cat Nero

Changbin: Crazy Form

Hyunjin: Deja Vu

Han: We Know

Felix: Eternal Sunshine

Seungmin: Halazia

I.N YOUTH

[videogamelover99]

Guys what if Fukuzawa is just...fucking lying about having an ability?

[bsdtual]

Tbh i wouldn't like to see Aya as a ability user. That'd save her, yes, but she's already amazing. She's just a young girl who believes in justice and wanna be on the good guy's side, she doesn't need any ability to be a hero

[mindpalaceofmyown]

ASAGIRI’S GASLIGHTING US!!!!

[nomacam]

The Stray Kids Megaverse: A Journey Through Parallel Realities

In the vast expanse of the multiverse, where infinite possibilities unfold across countless dimensions, there exists a phenomenon that transcends time and space. This is the Stray Kids Megaverse, a complex and interconnected web of parallel realities that has captured the imagination of fans around the world.

At the heart of the Megaverse lies Bang Chan's Room, a mysterious chamber that serves as a gateway between dimensions. Bang Chan, the leader of Stray Kids, possesses a unique ability to navigate this vast and ever-expanding universe, guiding his fellow members through the myriad of worlds that lay before them.

As they journey through the Megaverse, Stray Kids encounter a multitude of alternate selves, each living a life shaped by different choices and circumstances. These alternate selves serve as a reflection of the group's own journey, highlighting the themes of fate, free will, and the power of choice.

The connections between the members are a central theme in the Megaverse, with each alternate reality revealing new facets of their relationships. Bang Chan and Changbin, for example, are often depicted as close friends and allies in one universe, while in another, they may be bitter rivals or even enemies.

Similarly, the bond between Hyunjin and Felix is explored in various ways across different realities. In some universes, they are depicted as inseparable friends, while in others, they may be estranged or at odds with each other.

The "I am" series represents the group's initial exploration of these alternate realities, with each album offering a glimpse into the diverse and captivating worlds they encounter. In "I am NOT," they confront their innermost fears and insecurities, symbolized by the dark and dystopian landscapes they traverse. "I am WHO" sees them questioning their identities and roles in the universe, while "I am YOU" explores the interconnectedness of their lives and the impact of their choices.

The "Clé" series then builds upon this foundation, introducing new dimensions and challenges for the members to overcome. "Clé 1: MIROH" plunges them into a world of chaos and uncertainty, where they must navigate through a maze of trials and tribulations. "Clé 2: Yellow Wood" sees them facing the consequences of their actions, as they strive to find redemption and a sense of purpose.

Mirrors, doors, and clocks are recurring motifs in Stray Kids' music videos, symbolizing the interconnected nature of the Megaverse. Mirrors represent self-reflection and the discovery of alternate selves, while doors and clocks signify the passage between dimensions and the fluidity of time.

One of the most intriguing theories involves a "lost" universe, where a version of Stray Kids exists that never debuted. This universe serves as a cautionary tale, reminding us of the importance of seizing opportunities and embracing change.

Overall, the Stray Kids Megaverse is a testament to the group's creativity and the boundless imagination of their fans. It is a journey through parallel realities, a quest for identity and purpose that transcends the boundaries of our own universe.

[marcillfll]

This is the second part :з here is the first

I remind you that here are some of my thoughts about recent skz trailer and this is the first try, where i tell you my thoughts about all this references in the video~

Let's continue c:

The fifth one is Seungmin 🐶

Did you see all this screenshots wich point at the similarity with God's menu (excavator), Levanter (ticket) or Cheese (parking)? But didn't you see how hee literally appeared with "bloodied" jeans carrying "body bag" (presumably with popcorn)???

I think he looks like maniac and that's why represents Oddinary album 🧟‍♂️

The sixth one is Felix 🐣

Actually he is the most difficult one to understand for me. There are also cars, which could remind of Cheese, lollipop, which reminds me of Circus a little bit. There is also a city and i saw some opinion that this is from Maniac. But we already have one who represents Oddinary, so i thought here should be something else. I even supposed that he can represents all albums shown here, bc in some skz theories he stands for a "compass" for members and he is someone like main character in trailers (we will talk about it also). Here also he starts this video, he finds that "I am ground" sheet etc.

But then I understood that he has smth like Joker vibes. Felix in trailer is insane, he looks like he doesn't fit the "normal" city. The city. City jungle. And that was a moment when I remember that in Miroh skz were the same. They didn't fit the whole system and tried to change it, but failed. All the sounds in his scene reminds me of noisy busy city.

Now we have Felix representing Miroh 🏙

Seventh one is our leader Chan 🐺

With Chan there are some screenshots wich refers to burning building in Freeze. But this is not the only building that was on fire in skz's mvs. So for me the main point is that Chan playing the piano and metronom. He played the drums in The Sound and there also was metronom, even the choreo was similar. And it also might be important that this is Japanese album.

I assume Chan represents The sound 🎶

And last but not the least Lee Know 🐰

We can see "superscanner" and scan frame like in the airport and the same scanners were on Maniac posters. Lee Know held the same scanner on poster, but without an inscription, the word "super" could also refer to Superboard and Maxident. But we are searching here for album for each member, sooo... what i can also notice, is that Minho looks like he trying to escape from somewhere and skz did the same when they debuted. They escaped District 9. And there were white and red colors in mv. Minho wears white clothes and red beret.

If we decide that Lee Know stands for District 9, then he represents I am not album 🚫

This literally returns us to the beginning: I am ground. I know the name of an album is 5☆, but... It could be connected. Maybe if i'll have more thoughts about that i will also write something ~

And one more thing. The reason why i think this is not just set of random references to previous mvs, but actually references to previous albums, is bc... They always have sense in their mvs and trailers. So what the meaning of references to previous mv's scenes? It could be, like they telling us that all they do is 5☆ or something like that, but i used to think they have deeper senses...

In trailer they literally destroy all their comebacks. This could mean that something grand is coming. Something that will outshine all previous albums **

Thats all that i wanted to tell this time. Once more I apologize for mistakes and i'm open to your new opinion and theories *^*

[changlixx]

Changbin keeps calling I.N Yongbok

[lovereadandwrite]

my bby has done nothing wrong ever in his 1000 years of life THIS IS SLANDER !!!😩😬

[choi-hae]

Heyo, more SKZFLIX lore talk below the cut because it's eating at my brain. There's a few things that caught my eye and a couple that I haven't seen people really talking about.

I think it's super clear that our boys can move around through different universes - BUT they don't always know until it's already happening and even then, it's jarring for them. I think what we're seeing in SKZFLIX is Minho knowing he's not where he's supposed to be:

He's shocked to see Felix when he first wakes up/arrives, and has no idea what Felix is talking about when he mentions school things.

He seems off multiple times throughout the video - when Felix agrees to be in the short film & when Seungmin is going over the scene (Hyunjin throws him the basketball). It's like he's spacing out or not really fully involved in what's going on.

Something that also caught my attention is when Felix asks Minho why he wants to be an actor, he takes quite a bit to answer. He might be trying to come up with something because he's a different Minho OR all Minhos have some affinity for acting (On Track Minho was also an actor) - the ability to be free and become anyone he wants (which could also be an analogy for hopping around universes).

I've seen a lot of people confused that Felix didn't exist when he was seen interacting with the other kids - very clearly talking to Jeongin, interacting with Chan, play fighting with Jisung and Hyunjin over the laptop, literally being in the scene they're filming and no one questioning Minho interacting with him - and the simple answer is that he did exist, and then he didn't.

By the end, he's erased from the universe and replaced with another Felix. The easy answer for Minho remembering him when no one else did is because he's not from that universe - he knows about universe hopping - and immediately knows to run to the place where he first arrived, to greet a new Felix. Perhaps that's the spot where everyone enters the universe anew. I'm guessing the other Felix always knew and that's why he was there for Minho when he arrived.

We've been told in the past that Felix is important to the SKZ lore universe. If I'm remembering right, he was described as a compass, always leading down the right path? (please correct me if I'm wrong). He's the one we've seen with the cakes in all these MVs, making the wishes - wishes for a universe where all the kids can be together.

Which brings me to my next point: no matter when or where they are, the kids will always find each other and be together. Similar lines were spoken in the trailer for SKZFLIX. In every universe, there are eight of them and they are together no matter what they're going through.

The biggest indicator of this is the fact that, in this universe, it seems like all the kids don't know each other at the start. We see Chan, Hyunjin, Jeongin, and Changbin are close. They are meeting Jisung and Seungmin for what seems like the first time to team up on this short film. Then they audition Minho and Felix for the film. The film festival is the inciting incident that brings them together in this universe.

Another example of this from a past MV could be Maniac era. In the Oddinary trailer, Felix is meeting all the Maniaced kids as he enters the building and then they turn him into one of them. Then they're complete as eight.

They never leave anyone behind - there is always eight.

One theory that I've seen and quite enjoy is that perhaps Minho did die in an alternate universe of B Me (as opposed to him just having a broken arm, which we see continued in OH), and Felix wishes for him to be alive again. I take this a step further by considering, what if this Felix is tasked with fixing the multiverse? Maybe his job was to introduce Minho to this world and then he "must go back", leaving another confused Felix in his place. Because as we know, there must always be eight.

Again, he's the one we always see blowing out candles, which is insinuated to be him wishing for a better future. "Dreams come to those who truly want them", after all. If you wish hard enough, isn't anything possible?

Some more obvious things:

Blowing out candles and making wishes is clearly some kind of catalyst for switching universes. We've seen that multiple times throughout the Mixtape storyline.

The story itself completely parallels Seungmin's script - "protagonists who come to old friends and must go back", "it's about parallel worlds".

The universes do have similar or repeating elements. In this one specifically, we have Hyunjin stealing Jeongin's coffee milk (as opposed to the reverse in On Track), the basketball scene (B Me), the bus scene (OH), and again blowing out a candle on a cake/making a wish (OH, The View). A lot of their roles on this film crew are also similar to what they were in On Track - Hyunjin is the camera operator, Minho and Jeongin are actors, Chan is sound/boom op.

One last small theory from me:

I believe Hyunjin knows more than he's letting on. He seems to recognize Minho when watching Jisung's application video, when everyone else is supposedly meeting Minho and Felix for the first time. He goes to run after Minho when Minho leaves to find Felix. Perhaps this Hyunjin is also from another universe and remembers making his own hop to this universe.

Realistically, with the confirmation that the boys can go to different universes, we don't know who is in their original universe and who made a hop. We already know there's a universe out there where Jeongin isn’t where he's supposed to be (multiple instances of him in MVs being out of place), so it's not completely out of the question.

These are all my thoughts so far between watching the video a couple times and looking at what people have been saying online. I really love the way SKZ is doing their storytelling, even if it can be a bit confusing. It really just makes me think harder about it all, which I love, and it allows everyone to come up with their own theories, which I also love. Here's hoping Leave will give us some answers once it's released! 😊❤️

[lynlyndoll]

I'll be clear bcs I've seen many ppl say that hyunjin is the bad guy.

NO HE ISNT.

the theory: ok, so lino is the one that has the power over the multiverse (probably will be seen having power in megaverse mv), however he has been helping chan since day 1.

chan is the #1 villain because of the way he always has smth to say/ to do about skz. he is the one that finds the "exit", but gets the wrong jeongin EVEN THO JEONGIN WARNED HIM ITS NOT HIM.

chan OR minho can control people. that way, one of them can always make it seem that the bad guy isn't them.

jeongin knows everything since he was left in the first multiverse, as well as the fact that chan ignored his call when he warned him that the jeongin he was going to take back home was not him. he is also often seen as the only one who is well aware that Chan isn't the nice, sweet guy.

and they also know that jeongin knows everything, so they try to make him stfu (seen in the sclass mv, when it's only him, chan and minho)

now, we know that felix n lee know have a special connection. what if they r brothers, but felix is the good one? (+both of them r often seen as the CAT of the group, w diff personalities. the cat is represented often in jyp ent's mvs. as the one who controls/makes the multiverse be connected)

here, in the 10 min movie, we can see hyunjin being annoyed when seeing lee know - which can possibly mean he tried to kill him and now that he knows he is alive, he will try to kill him again. -

also, jeongin now is possibly hyunjin's bf/love interest, which means he probably told hyunjin all abt chan and minho, which led to hyunjin being annoyed on lee knowand kill/have a desire to kill lee know

the only thing that I still don't see is han, changbin and seungmin's position in this story+the connection between hyunjin and felix (which could also be smth abt the teaser of noeasy, if im not mistaken)

the hyunlix connection might be from that teaser because hyunjin may have been under chan/minho's control, which led him to killing the good person from the plot. after hyunjin got his own control back, he finally realized what he's done and that felix is the good person

+we can see that changbin and han are playing with a purple flame BUT the flame was at first orange when it was in changbin's hands.

also, we can see that felix and minho are the (only??) ones who can play w the blue flame in thunderous, this can also mean that felix and lee know are 100% connected (BROTHERS!!)