#stop shitting on the lu fandom

[raycatz]

guy complaining about the names the fandom uses in the middle of the update hype blowing YOU UPPPPP BLOWING YOU UPPPPP KABOOM

[deadghosy]

Do you know about the Welcome Home fandom? So what about Wally Darling!Reader?

HAZBIN HOTEL X WALLY DARLING! READER

prompt: you are a greeter of the hazbin hotel! Who knew a muppet looking demon could be so colorful.

You are so soft spoken! Like that soft voice you have can hypnotize anyone into doing anything.

“hello, welcome to the hazbin hotel. i’m your greeter.” You say with a “:D” face

You’re so colorful and you’re definitely shorter than Lucifer…i can see Lucifer picking you up like a damn doll at times as you just smile with your muppet ass smile.

You’re just TOO DAMN CUTEEE! 🦆💗 literally even husk grumbles and gives you apples by the bar for you to stop giving him those doe eyes you give him when you are needy for apples.

I feel because of your muppet look, it would bring attention to yourself as a muppets looking demon is quite rare around the pentagram city, or even hell itself as Lucifer and Charlie have a muppet or Marionette look. 

Literally you are friends with Lucifer because of it and he finds your muppet look adorable. Even with your 3 ft height. (Yes I looked up his height and damn he short as hell!😭)

You are just chilling after greeting some new sinners in the hotel as you read the news paper, Lucifer comes out of no where. Dead ass reads the newspaper trying to understand your likes and dislikes.

“Lu-Lu?” You said softly as Lucifer awkwardly smiles and does finger guns at you. “Oh what a coincidence? What are you doing here..?” He says awkwardly as he sweatdrops at his attempt to start a conversation with you. “I live here?” You said raising a brow sitting down the newspaper.

“Oh I do too! What a very crazy thing?!” He says pointing his finger at himself as he poofs away in embarrassment as you just sat there…..*cue in pure confusion*

Alastor would not hate you because you are colorful, lemme be realistic. You two would be mutuals. Not like “oh I hate you but you are cool” type shit. I mean you two are the people who wave at each other but never approach each other because you don’t know if they like you fr. 🥲

One time a sinner had shoulder bumped you on purpose thinking you wasn’t gonna do anything…BUT NAH! YOU GRABBED THAT MF BY HIS NECK AS A SHADOW COVERS YOUR FACE, only leaving your eyes showing as you kick they ass out. You ain’t dealin' with no bullshit at this establishment. And for your friend’s sake.

Angel likes to play with makeup with your face since it’s calling out for his makeup kit. Literally he does blue eyeshadow on you.

I headcannon you wear blue eyeshadow just like how Wally’s eyelid is blue up there. Dead ass it would be cute if it was just blue eye shadow and you had a natural blush on your cheeks. You are quite beautiful reader💗😘

Since Angel is a drag queen, he would also try to make you wear drag queen makeup only for you to sneeze at how much product he used…yeah he never used it on your face.

You’re beautiful natural anyway…just don’t sneeze in his face. Ever again.

You definitely look like you listen to 1970-80’s jazz music as you dance in the lobby with Alastor nodding along happy. Just two jazz buddies liking jazz.

I can imagine Charlie trying to hold you back from eating the fruit gift basket for the guests…you’re only aiming for the damn apples as your mouth was drooling for it.

Imagine Vox has you on his channel because he brided you with apples. He stalked you through your tv you had that has rainbows and apples on it-

Well anyways Alastor “recused” you because you just sat there “begging” to be saved is what he saved when you munched on an apple confused by why Alastor came to take you away from Vox.

If you and Lucifer hung out doing hobbies together, which he suggested. You’re panting a portrait as he makes a duck based off of you….he can’t help but show affection of making you a duck version of yourself.

Niffty and you definitely get along well as hell! As you two have the same fashion taste as you both will dance to the genre of music you guys like.

With you being the greeter, you always have a soft smile and a soft approach to make the guest and residents feel safe in the hotel.

Sir Pentious will absolutely admire you…like a friend crush. He just wants to be your friend but you are too pure to approach as he thinks he won’t be cool enough to be your friend.

Imagine Valentino seeing you shopping and he tried to approach you only for a red smoke to cover you as you blinked confused to see an overprotective Lucifer smiling at you as you had teleported to the hotel. But with Lucifer, you could see his real feelings as you felt confused.

After a few months you and Pentious became friends because of one of his egg boiz named Frank said his “boss” wants to be friends with you. You giggled and nodded as you and sir Pentious do trust exercises together when Charlie host them.

Husk had dilated eyes and purr at you because you scratched under his chin which made him snap out of his cat daze and slap your hand as you giggle with a soft gaze.

I headcannon Velvette to be your girl who makes your outfits in primary colors. Like that or just cute aesthetic kid core fits. 💗‼️

I can see how reader always gives balloons to sinners who had trouble reliving their childhood. So they give balloons out to the sinners who had childhood trauma. You are a greeter, and a hell of a good one. 🦆💗

Imagine how Wally! Reader has those safety pins that say “Welcome!” And it’s so cute because you made them a t hand and Lucifer saw his you had effort in it so he made you more to give out to the guests.

I feel like Valentino will try to get you under his contract so he can use your pretty look since you seem like a femboy….but really you’re just a little guy who likes apples and his friends.

YOU’RE ONLY 12 APPLES TALL! 😨

But the hazbin crew literally cockblock him to the point he just stops doing he was trying to do to you.

I can see Lucifer trying to impress you at times as he never has a friend that had a cute appearance like you so your blank eye stare always catches him off as you just stand there smiling so adorably.

I headcannon waking up to find an apple by your night stand as a note reads “hope you like the apple, my angel!”- Lu-Lu. You just blinked at the apple completely ignoring the note and eating the apple as you smile at the taste.

“…yummy apppleee….” You say until you open your eyes looking at the note. “Wait what.”

You had gave Lucifer back an apple basket with rubber ducks that had painted apples not it for your appreciation of the apples he gave you 

[helloarchivist]

okay listen here are my long ass unprompted two cents:

The popular fandom concurrence that Luffy doesn't bathe often, and only usually when he's dragged in there or in a group setting, is correct.

The popular fandom concurrence that this is because he's a dumb stinky baby that doesn't understand hygiene and scratches his ass and sniffs it in public, is categorically false. (and also annoys me and feels in line with other ways that the fandom tends to infantilize Lu and downplay his intelligence, but that's gonna have to be a post for another day.)

Think about That One Thing that happened to you when you were a little kid. Maybe you fell down and broke your arm. Maybe you got stung by a wasp. Maybe, just maybe, you fell into a pool and almost drowned.

Bad things that happen to us in childhood will stick with us well into adulthood, and likely for the rest of our lives. Fears and traumas from our formative years shape the way we think, and require a ton of effort and, often times, professional intervention to unlearn the coping mechanisms for.

Luffy had a ton of really traumatic shit happen to him as a child, and a LOT of those things revolved around a consistent series of near-drownings. With the bandits when Shanks had to come save him, which involved nearly drowning AND, as a result of that deeply frightening, very painful event, the witnessing of his mentor and father figure getting his fucking arm bitten off saving him.

Then, over and over and over again, in the jungle with Ace and Sabo. The first few times he really did nearly die, because the boys didn't realize he couldn't swim, and just stood up there, jeering and laughing at him until the bubbles stopped coming up and they realized something was wrong.

Every time they went over a bridge or fought some animal or had run-ins with dangerous adults, the chance that Luffy would have a near-drowning event was ever-present and always non-zero.

It's shown in canon that, during the rare times they came back to Dadan's hideout for baths, Luffy was hesitant to join in, not because he enjoyed being dirty, but because he was visibly frightened to get into the water barrel, and needed support to do that.

Even into his adult life, this problem has persisted, and it doesn't matter how strong he gets or how many techniques he learns, there is nothing he can do but hope someone saw him fall if he ends up in the water again.

Getting water in your nose and lungs hurts. Getting it in your eyes hurts. It can take ages to run out of your ears, it can make you sick, we're not built to have water outside of its designated metabolic areas.

It's the only real weakness he has, and nearly every non-beverage run-in he's had with water in his entire life, since the age of like 5, has been some level of dangerous and traumatic. The kind of mental fortitude involved in pulling his Water Luffy stunt in Alabasta is, for him, just as much a show of the ferocity of his loyalty as anything else, despite how objectively silly it looks (and how comically angry it makes Crocodile).

Luffy doesn't bathe often, not because he's stupid, not because he's lazy, not because he doesn't "get soap" or whatever nonsense reasons are floating around, but because water scares the shit out of him, and he's not very good at articulating that emotion, nor the need for support that fear entails.

Thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

[crazylittlejester]

1 4 5 and 18 :)

- hero-of-the-wolf

1. the last sentence you wrote

‘Mask stiffly waddled over to his cot and sat down with a whimper, trying not to let his tunic brush against his raw skin anymore than it had to.’ (<- this is from a fic going in You’re A Part Of Me, it’s not as angsty as it sounds 😭)

4. a story idea you haven’t written yet

Somethin with Sky and Wars, they’re an underrated duo. I’m not sure where it’ll go but I wanna do something with them, maybe I’ll let em just hang out

5. first sentence of the fifth paragraph of an unpublished WIP

‘Time groaned when he heard his phone ringing and rolled over in his bed, clamping a hand over the ear that wasn’t pressed into his pillow.’ (modern au)

18. if you keep them, share a deleted sentence or paragraph from a published fic

i dont keep em, but in Respect, Time was supposed to tell Rodgers to suck his balls when he was beating the shit outta him 😭

for context, Respect is part of my series You’re A Part Of Me which is about Time and Wars both DURING the War of Eras and also during LU. And this happened during the war of eras and I was gonna have Time do it again to reference back to this part of the beginning of the fic:

“Would you care to explain to me why you told my commanding officer to suck your dick??” Link demanded, fighting extremely hard to keep control of his voice but unable to keep it from wavering just a little.

“I didn’t tell him to suck my dick,” Mask huffed, crossing his arms over his chest as he turned around in his chair to face him, scowling at the captain. “If you’re going to accuse me of things, at least get your facts right. I told him to suck my balls.”

He watched something in his brother snap as Link’s right eye started twitching and the captain stopped breathing all together. Mask was fairly certain he was holding his breath so he didn’t lose control and end up strangling him.

Link to the fic if anyone wants to read it 😭 (Summary: Mask has a very hard time controlling his mouth when he overhears people saying horrible things about the captain. Even twenty years later, Time still refuses to stand by and watch someone disrespect his brother):

[hongluboobs]

wrath/gloom/sloth he’s SO fucking not normal you guys

the only other Hong Lu with gloom is liu. wrath used to be pretty rare in his kits but liu, w corp, and hook Hong Lu have it so it’s not really that rare anymore! No lust is also something to note because right now the only Hong Lu identities that don’t have lust affinity somewhere are the corp ones!

It’s a little bit of a reach but his lustless ids being specifically the corp ones reminds me of something from dream of the red chamber. In that book, there’s a character named Zhen Bao-yu, who seems identical to and is even called a “mirror version” of Jia Bao-yu(the most likely equivalent to limbus Hong Lu) in the text. The two look very similar and even have the same jade, but the difference is instead of remaining silly and whimsical (to quote the text, “full of lust”) like Jia Bao-yu, Zhen Bao-yu eventually matures out of this. When the two finally meet in person, Jia Bao-yu expects to meet a kindred spirit but soon realizes Zhen Bao-yu isn’t actually like him and is a “career worm”, which he hates.

All the corp hong lus get their jobs from nepotism, So that can potentially provide deeper meaning for why the Corp Hong Lu’s don’t have lust if you’re a little too insane about the text, but what about this one? he sure as hell isn’t working at a corp?

If I have to connect it to the text, this Hong Lu reminds me of the Jia Bao-yu (who i’m just gonna call Bao-yu for brevity bc Zhen Bao-yu isn’t relevant to here) near the very end of the book. Here, he returns to the land of illusion and is enlightened this time! He reads a bunch of forbidden knowledge that pretty much amounts to the fates of everyone he cares about, and DOESN’T forget it like he did the first time. This makes him develop an ambivalent “it had to happen this way and i couldn’t stop it” view of life and he starts to gradually disconnect from reality. Eventually he just. fucks off to become a monk

Of course, this might not be what they’re going for. I don’t even know how equivalent they’re trying to make things related to Hong Lu to the text, i just know it’s not gonna be one-to-one. On the other hand, red chamber is also a long ass book i don’t think many people in this fandom have read through, and it’s one of our biggest hints for what Hong Lu’s canto could hold.

Also the s3 sloth reminds me of k corp Hong Lu and i like that guy. i almost forgot to say this

i’m sooo excited for this id to drop ohhh my god. i need to see all the fucked up shit he says. i need some freak i can run on a sinking team who isn’t named lcb sinner Hong Lu. and thank god this games equivalent of bao-yu fucking off to be a monk isn’t bald bc i’d be really scared if he was (monk bao-yu cuts off all his hair when he fucks off. it’s really sad)

[sublimedonutheart]

I'm going to do something that I don't like, but I feel the need to do it because this last month I have seen at least one post a day of hate, mockery or criticism towards the ship and its fans here on the tag and I'm getting tired of seeing that.

People who have nothing better to do than come to bother the Zosan tag, READ THIS:

■We do not care about your negative opinion about the ship

■We don't care about your criticism of the fanarts or fanfictions if it is not constructive criticism.

■We don't care what you think about the ship and its shippers.

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¿Do you think Zosan is boring? We do not care

¿Do you think that Zosan is the gay ship for straight people? We don't care. [For god sake this is ridiculous and offensive, I'm an ace/bi person who enjoys the dynamics of these characters, but now my ship is for fucking straights lmao]

¿Do you think it's a toxic ship? We do not care

¿Do you think we are wrong because we like this "ship that doesn't make sense" and not another ship like Z*lu, S*nUs*pp or any other ship? We do not care

¿Does it bother you that Zosan is more popular and do you think other ships deserve to be more popular than them? [another ridiculous thing] WE DON'T CARE

I promise we don't give a shit what you have to say about us or Zosan

Stop thinking that your opinions are important, because SURPRISE they are not, so if you want to give your opinion so much, do it on your own blog and don't add the ship tags in your post, because we just want to enjoy the content that other Zosan fans share in the tag. We don't want to read whatever you have to say about the ship, especially if your post starts with "It's not hate against Zosan or its shippers but... ." stop and read what you wrote! If you already start like this you know very well that it is either going to bother us or make us feel bad for shipping TWO DAMN PIXELS

¿Seriously, why is it so difficult to ship and let ship?

¿Are you so self-centered that you think everyone should read WHY YOU DON'T LIKE ZOSAN OR X SHIP?

...And the worst thing is that it is not a problematic or disgusting ship [and believe me, this fandom has many of those disgusting ships that make me sick] but you prefer to ignore those ships and come to bother us. It's fucking unfair and annoying, because we're not hurting anyone, we're just enjoying shipping these two characters.

That's what I had to say, but since I know that you will still continue with those posts, I have no choice but to block them as I have done this last month

[misc-obeyme]

LISTEN. (cw torture, barb thirst, mc infofump, mentions of murder and devildm politics, a bunch'a spoilers for Barbatos live ★ & Tea time w you-, obey me whump, conditioning, rant about newer fandom this ask is a wild ride)

But I also like the idea of him discovering what you’ve been doing & then questioning you about your methods. Like he’s impressed you would take matters into your own hands, but he is also an expert and can teach you many things~

Cue you getting taken on as the torturer’s apprentice. When you tell Solomon, he just goes pale and stammers out a joke about how he doesn’t like sharing his apprentice lol.

I'm gonna interrupt you like the potato i am but like???yes????? you do not understand my obsession with torture. I always thought I'm a masochist but I've recently figured i was wrong and Boy it Was the best feeling in rhe world to figure out whats wrong with me-

also my mc is both Sol's apprentice in magic and Barb's student in torture and baking. mhmhmmm. I also Do Not Like the brothers so much my mc was never an exchabge student. I did some black butler shit back there and now he lives in the castle. like two years before the exchange program- (no my canon doesnt follow the game's canon caue thats so very badly written) and he also helps w murdering people who are against Diavolo. and people just ?? can't believe it- there has to be some sort of a war shit going on. Dia is too kind to do this- also, if anyone figures they don't. Barb has POWERS-

and BOY DO I LOVE BARB FOR THAT. Also dia but he isnt important rn sjsksk. in the new event's card he said smth like he would cross his own boundries for the sake of Diavolo and Devildom. althought he didnt say for mc so 😔 but thats hot af still. But buT BUT vvv

villain wannabe. wdym darkness?? you said itll be for the sake of devildom! idk im misinterpenting or no but this is so side ways I'm a bit ????ing rn

also in Tea time with you when you ask him what the fuck he did that even being a 24/7 slave butler to Diavoli won'y undo the mistake he had done?? he laughs?? HEEHEEE???? what are you Michael Jackson? and the other option he goes straight to anger so idk whats with the huge difference in replies-

anyway angry Barb is also best Barb i dont make the rules. also he's the butler of their PRINCE noone gets to harm mc. they'd dissapear. go missing. possibly either killed or very altered. Came Back Wrong™ ohoho, imagine if some of the castle workers/maids etc used to be high ranked nobles and demons and they've done smth so wrong that lowered them to this. and they don't remember it?? and noone else does remember too. just some lost names. okay not to get far-

BUT LISTEN Barb has definitly done some conditioning bs out there you can not prove it otherwise. also, Mammon keeps getting punished by Lu and hasn't changed so imagine the pain those demons have to go through for that-

JSKSKAJ!! BARB IS HOT OKAY- HES SADISTIC. I live sadistic demon butlers . also the fact that he has a torture dungeon- and who says there aren't demons in the hidden prisons waiting for their turn? i imagine Barb would randomly take one, do the things™ and leave for the next few months. the second the demons think they're forgotten/ theyre doomed. its also not in order so yep more stress. so wha i was goimg to say is imagine a very sadistic and mentally ill™ mc whos very angry tortuing some " innocent" souls in the dungeons. also, I tend to imagine Barb has taught Lucifer a few forms of torture when he fell (cough, Believer cough-) so-

Barb is such an interesting character (like Sol) and the older fandom used to really put those aspects in mind but the newer fandom is stripped completely from darkfic. like. can we have more darkfic i am begging I want obey me whump I dont want mc angst i want mc whump i want these bad boys dying of pain and being saved the last minute i want more stories on devildom politics i want more dark! demons/dark! mc aus- like can we bring that back??? can we stop w 24/7 fluff/comfort/angst thats just mc's death ?? no hate to those but can we bring back the dark shit i want to see demons getting their asses whooped in barb's dungeon or Dia being manupilative af--😭😭😭

ok ok ill shut up now😂

There is so much happening in this ask, but for some reason I keep coming back to "HEEHEEE???? what are you Michael Jackson?" because wow that made me actually LOL for real.

I'm always going to be for canon divergence. I say do whatever makes you happy! Your MC must truly have their hands full learning all that stuff with Barbatos and Solomon. But like if you're gonna learn those things, might as well learn from the best, right???

The thing I like about Barbatos is that he is very versatile. They've kept him very mellow in the game, but he has so much potential to go dark if you want to write him that way. I mean they don't even confirm that he actually has a torture dungeon in the game... I'm pretty sure it's just Mammon who says he's rumored to have one. But like by leaving it open ended like that, we can speculate all we like about it, you know?

And traditionally, wasn't that the point of demons? Aside from tempting humans, they're supposed to torture souls, right? I mean, I don't know how accurate that actually is, but it's interesting to think about.

I'm not especially obsessed with torture and I think it's pretty clear from my writing that I'm generally on the fluffier side of things lol. But it's interesting to think about, especially considering the types of characters we're dealing with here. And I really like the exploration of morality and inner evil and that sort of thing when it comes to heavy stuff like torture.

I thought it was very interesting in Barbatos Live how he calls MC his good conscience. 'Cause in Tea Time with You, he very much indicates that he used to do crazy stuff all the time, but then the Incident happened and now he doesn't. So wouldn't his guilt over whatever happened be his good conscience, like it has been all this time before MC showed up? Is he saying that MC just makes him want to stick to that even more?

Though he also says that it's like demon nature to have some darkness, so I don't know if he's talking about his specific experience necessarily. It's more like he's saying he wants to fight against his own nature? I dunno.

OH DANG but I love that idea about the maids and such in the castle! Demons that messed up so bad, now Barb keeps them at the castle to work??? What was that about not giving into the darkness???? lk;asdfkjlfd

I'm afraid I can't really comment on the amount of darkfic present in the fandom at any given time... due to being a Fluffster Extraordinaire, I'm faaaar more likely to read sweet lovey romance fics than Barb torture dungeon fics. Which isn't to say that I don't like the Barb torture dungeon situation because I do indeed find it very intriguing lol. I'm just usually like yo I want that guy to bake for me and make me tea, I don't care what he does in his spare time.

In fact, I really like the idea of a sweet and doting house husband Barbatos that pampers MC all day every day while being a ruthless and loyal demon butler the rest of the time. Like the dungeon isn't a rumor but as long as he washes off the blood when he comes back, MC is like whatever lol.

Oh but I also like the idea of MC being just as bad as him, now that I think about it. Like MC isn't ignorant, they don't turn a blind eye, they are right there with him, actively participating. The torture couple aadsflkjdfkjldf

I dunno, I think I'm considering it in more of a humorous way than a serious way, though.

Anyway, it's fun to consider all aspects of Barbatos because he has so many facets! And I think it's fun to explore the different sides of him.

[seyaryminamoto]

Little Lu Ten really admired his uncle, itseems 😅 Is there a possibility that Ozai would have orchestrated Lu Ten's death? 😳

... I know that's a relatively popular theory in the fandom, but that's absolutely not the case in Gladiator and, I'd dare say, absolutely unlikely in canon too.

Not only do I enjoy writing a far more complex Ozai than canon's, not only do I very much want him to feel like Zuko's dark counterpart, the kind of person Zuko 100% could have become without the support of the people who guided him down a better path, but...

... did you ever watch LOK? Book 2, in particular?

There are a lot of things in Book 2 of LOK that made me realize I was on a ride I didn't really want to be on anymore, and I stuck it out basically because I was in the fandom, too active and in-too-deep to just stop watching. But I would say the first moment that made me go "... oh shit, this writing is really bad" would be when Unalaq's grand, contrived plan to frame Tonraq for having "unleashed spirits on the Northern Water Tribe with his irresponsible behavior," was revealed. Not only was Korra's behavior disturbing for me in that scene, the explanations were so ridiculous and embarrassing that I wanted to scream. Basically: Unalaq hired a bunch of criminals to cause trouble so that they'd get their asses kicked by Tonraq in a VERY specific spiritual location, all because he 100% knew that would result in a bunch of dark spirits attacking the Northern Water Tribe! And when that happened, he swept in as the hero to save the day through a bending technique that goes 100% against everything we knew about bending in ATLA, while Tonraq looked like the worst person ever, got banished, and Unalaq became heir to the throne!

... Wouldn't it have made perfect sense for Tonraq to ACTUALLY be a flawed hero? Wouldn't it have been a more INTERESTING story if Tonraq learned from his arrogance, while Unalaq, instead, grew INCREASINGLY arrogant? So, you know, parallel character development, in inverse directions? It would've been a far more interesting writing choice :'D even if the whole situation is as weird and wonky as it is, at least this actually means character growth could be had, right?

But no. We had the weirdest con in the history of the Water Tribe instead. How wasn't Unalaq suspicious from the start due to the CONVENIENCE of him revealing this power to purify spirits that nobody's ever heard of before? Why would the criminals take money from one prince to get killed/attacked by another?? Were they criminals, really, or were they the Northern Water Tribe's BDSM club who had the hots for Tonraq and wanted him to beat them up? So much about the "logic" of this scenario was so absolutely ridiculous... add to this that the seemingly random judge happens to know ALL about it, and he's ready to give Korra all the explanations that straightforwardly say "YES. YOUR UNCLE IS A BAD MAN. GO PUNCH HIM." Put it all together, and it's so contrived, so exaggerated, it steals all agency from characters, the plans don't even make sense: why wouldn't Unalaq just... have Tonraq killed? if he wanted the throne?? oldest tale in the book?? there's literally no character-driven reason that justifies him doing all the BS he did just to have Tonraq conveniently banished instead of killed. So, yeah, this whole thing is just one hell of A Writing Choice. :')

... And with all this being said, I suppose you may see where I'm going with this.

Ozai doesn't need to orchestrate the murder of his nephew from halfway across the world for Lu Ten to die. In fact, considering Ozai's track record, be it in Gladiator or in canon? I'd dare say that any attempts of his to get Lu Ten killed would backfire so badly that Azulon would've somehow ended up abdicating, and Iroh too, so that Lu Ten could be Fire Lord, if Ozai had been targeting his nephew deliberately. Yes, I'm making fun of him again, but... think about canon Ozai for a minute, if you may indulge me: he planned to ruin Zuko's life by sending him to hunt down the Avatar, and Zuko ended up not only finding the Avatar but taking Ozai's throne. You know. The throne Ozai connived and plotted to get all his life. And he held it for a grand total of 5 years before losing it to his 16yo son. Damn. A top-tier strategist, isn't he?

My point, boiled down to simplicity is... simplicity, in itself.

Lu Ten is in a war front. An active, violent one. He's in a fierce battle against the best earthbending forces of the Earth Kingdom, who are tasked with defending Ba Sing Se, a city that's supposed to be impenetrable.

These earthbenders do not need dirty money from a Fire Lord's son to decide to kill an enemy soldier. Unless we think that Lu Ten is lazy and cowardly, and that he would not get his hands dirty and would not be involved in the fighting, he would've been in constant danger while serving on the battlefield. The situation, once Ba Sing Se's Outer Wall broke, absolutely REQUIRES for the battle to grow fiercer, as the stakes have never been higher for the Earth Kingdom's defenses. So, with this scenario in mind? Even the most grotesque version of Ozai has no need to hire any murderers to kill Lu Ten. He's in enough danger as it is, and along with Lu Ten, hundreds of other Fire Nation soldiers are bound to have died. He just happened to be one of them.

Ah, and if the working theory is that Lu Ten died because of a firebender? There's no way the show wouldn't have brought this up. If he had been stabbed in the back with a Fire Nation sword/dagger/spear? Same thing. At no point is there any indication that Lu Ten died because he got attacked from behind by his fellow soldiers, it would have been too important an element in his death for the story to not bring it up.

Along with this, I'd wager that any version of Ozai who HAD hired someone to kill Lu Ten would not have been quite so chill, taking over the throne while Iroh just drinks tea and plays the fool. If Lu Ten died by foul play? Provable foul play? (Ozai would leave a pretty damn obvious trail if he was behind this, let's not give Loser Lord more credit than he's due, please) Iroh would not have been so stupid as to not realize it. And, upon going home? The first, most obvious potential culprit for Lu Ten's death is the guy who benefits from it all: Ozai. And I know, yes, Iroh got redeemed and realized violence was not the answer... but Iroh, too, talked about Ozai with a carelessness and a casual demeanor in canon that is completely incompatible with that of a father who at LEAST suspects his son may have been murdered by his piece of shit of a brother :'D

SO!

... in conclusion, no. Ozai didn't have Lu Ten killed. Categorically untrue in Gladiator, and in my opinion, laughable and unlikely in canon as well due to how contrived and unncessary it is, not to mention how badly this reflects on Iroh's inaction and passivity if his son was actually killed by his own brother (imagine being harsher towards your 14yo niece than towards your brother-who-killed-your-son, ffs...). Ozai's bad enough as he is: blaming him for every awful thing that happens in his family feels like an unnecessary way to make him the source of all evil when we all know, already, that he's very, very bad. People die on battlefields. It doesn't have to be because of mercenaries specifically hired to find one specific person amid hundreds or thousands of soldiers and making sure THAT ONE (1) DUDE dies.

I suspect you'll be quite surprised, once we get to the flashbacks that deal with the subject, to discover that Ozai was in fact interpreting Lu Ten as an ally to himself. He thought Lu Ten would wind up actively supporting Ozai's bid as Fire Lord :') he believed he could be helpful for his schemes. And when he dies? It's a blow to Ozai's plans, at first. He tries to work with it later... doesn't go super well, of course. You'll see when we get there :'D

[attackfish]

Hi! First off, your headcanons are fantastic, wonderful, marvelous, a blessing to the fandom. Second, could you write more of that AU where Zuko and Azula are Iroh's children and Lu Ten was Ozai's (if you feel like it ofc)? In the last post I can find Iroh had escaped from the palace with his kids and was rallying his old troops and getting ready to fuck shit up, and I'd love to see what happens next. Thank you in advance and sorry if you've already been asked this!

So there are several posts after what you asked here, and I sent them to you by pm and that is all fine and dandy and I just wanted to address what happens when I am asked the same thing by multiple people: I have more prompts to fill, and I fill them. It is the opposite of a problem, please don't apologize. Anyway, continued from: [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], [Link], and [Link].

1. When we left off, Zhao was on his way to the Fire Nation, a prison cell, and then execution. His fate seems sealed. But Zhao is a schemer by nature. He's not very smart, so his schemes are rarely any good, but he schemes them with great enthusiasm. And one of the crew members of the ship taking him back for trial, makes the tactical error of taunting him with the prospect of being in a cell right next to his precious fake Firelord Ozai. But is it a tactical error, really? At least for Zhao's guards onboard ship? Because he does in fact quiet down and stop making trouble for them, after they threaten him with a good time. Because now Zhao has a goal, and his goal is to reunite with Ozai, and help his preferred Firelord escape. In short, he comes to the capitol prison full of enthusiasm, and plans, and he tells these plans to ozai when the guards footsteps echo from far away down the hall, so that they think the guards are too far to hear.

2. Zhao's plan, to heat the stones of the wall between their cells, and then splash ddrinking water on them, so that they crack and give way, and so that they can then do this to the outside wall, and slip out, isn't exactly a great plan, but Ozai is incapable of doing anything for himself anyway, instead of simply stealing the credit after the fact, so he agrees to go along with this.

3. So Zhao continues to cause problems for fun and profit, like sure it benefits his cause to make problems for everyone, but also, he just really enjoys it. He's like my poodle puppy, if my poodle puppy were evil and stupid, instead of precious, and the smartest boy in the world. So nothing like my poodle puppy. But one thing he does share with naughty puppies the world over, is that, well eventually he figures out that if he uses his drinking water to crack the stones of their cell wall, he's going to die of dehydration, so he starts peeing on it instead.

4. Horrifyingly, this works. And thanks for the fact that it is absolutely disgusting, and none of his guards actually know that this use of urine is part of an escape attempt, nobody wants to go investigate, they just assume he's a horrible gross man. Ozai who does in fact know what's up, is in fact contemplating executing Zhao after this is all over, so that no one will ever know about this.

5. But as terrible as this plan is, they are in fact able to break through the walls, and then to the outside wall, and realize that they are in fact several stories off the ground, which makes things a lot less simple than they were thinking while in their cell, and well, to make a long story short, Ozai falls to his death while trying to climb out, while Zhao makes it all the way down to the ground before the guards start chasing after him, and he decides when the guards reach him, that he is going to make a last stand, because he would rather die fighting, than await execution. The guards oblige him. It's all very convenient for Iroh, who no longer has to think about what to do with his brother, or arrange Zhao's trial. The only thing he has to worry about is the minor expense of repairing the capital prison tower. As a final kindness to his brother, he doesn't even tell the world about the pee thing.

[ghosthoard]

spooks end of year wrapup! pt. 4

I did not expect to be as obsessed with wars as I am when I first read the comic. I looked at the character designs Jojo made and I completely skipped over him. Even as I read the comic, he was just not on my radar.

It was the FANDOM that did this to me. He attacked me in my blind spot. I've been drawn to big brother figures (dick grayson/nightwing my love) before as well as the types of characters that like to hide behind a facade (also dick grayson) and Wars fit the bill immediately when I discovered the war trio.

At first it was just Wars and Mask tho hence the fanart above. Just—bro. like— the whole concept of mask being the little brother and Wars being the big brother and having to be separated and once they meet again Time is way older??? Insanity. You can do so much with that. And the fandom did!!!

There's fics where wars finds out that time was mask, misunderstandings where both of them think the other wants nothing to do with them, time finally being the baby to someone in the group, time being allowed to be a little shit and only wars really knowing that he's a little shit, trauma bonding in the war, time understanding what happened to wars during the war now that he's older, being able to see wars's more self-destructive tendencies, wars helping Time with his concerns with Twilight. And there's even more!

I sung my praises about anthem's work, and now I have to do the same about wr1tmywrongs. you have to read the fic linked above you just gotta, especially if you're a wars and mask/time fan. the big brother energy from wars, and time loving having his big brother back. wars figuring out who time really is, them finally reconnecting, twilight and wars talking about this really weird family dynamic they have going on, malon??? tell the author they're so cool.

god this whole thing was just made for me, ticks all my boxes, tickles all my interests. these two completely blindsided me and I might like them even more than any other relationship within the chain which is crazy I didn't expect that to happen.

I got possessed and had to draw them. Before this, the only art I did was animatics and little animations, I've never done illustration properly for years. So, I remember being so happy with what I've drawn because after all that practice with animatics I can more easily put to paper the images I have in my head. I was riding that high for awhile. And honestly, I feel like these are still some of my strongest pieces. But of course even then I knew that I was lacking in some areas of art, one of which was color. But that didn't stop me. Illustrations are so quick to do??? At least quicker to do than animatics??? you got that dopamine high in only maybe a day or a week and not months later??? not possible.

So I continued to draw fanart of LU because again my skill is enough to put what I imagine to paper now and also you can get it done in only a few days. this is the first fandom where I've been so in love with the characters and where my art skills are up to par with what I want to draw and that's an evil combination. Now I want to get better at art to draw the boys even better??? this is how obsessions start.

VER. 1

Once a little brother, always a little brother

Fanart of: “A brother by any other name” by writ3mywrongs on ao3

[three-bunnies-in-a-trenchcoat]

OHH MY GOD THE "BEYOND..." OPTION I FORGOT AB THAT ONE!!! sksw link is such a rascal i love him so...

and donot fucking worry i know EXACTLY what ur talking abt with how it permeates the tags and ao3. finding good ao3 fics is impossible and ESPECIALLY for sksw and oot. im surprised ive found what good ones i can man. also i could talk for hours alone about how L/U has impacted malons character bc i adore her to the point of devoting a major part of my post-oot aus to what happens to her and seeing how shes interpreted nowadays is so. hhhhh !!!!!!! :((( stop making her a scolding mother figure stop making her Links Wife and nothing else she can be so much more than just that!!!!!!!!!!!! aauauausbaa. actually i could talk forever and ever abt how fanon link and malon and zelda tends to make them the worst possible versions of themselves and how l/u kinda perpetuates that but its 1 am and i have a fic to write so fffff

and the names man the names. its such a small thing (and im no stranger to sometimes using those abbreviations in some of my posts when i get especially verbose or have to talk abt multiple links all at once) but i try to go outta my way to refer to the chars as [game] [name] just to make it as clear as possible that im not talking abt the l/u counterparts. theyre practically their own chars to me at this point which sucks when im looking for content of my favs sksw link or oot link and i get Sleepy Soft Boy and Responsible Serious Soldier like no! no!!!!! thats my purse i dont know you /ref!!!!!!!

anyways. maybe i am just old and not with it since ive been a loz fan almost my entire life but it is nice to see someone who feels the same 👍 ty for lettin me complain for a moment there.

on a lighter note tell me about the "sksw link is not actually sleepy" thing bc im curious. its a thing thats mentioned abt pre-destiny link but after zelda falls it does kinda go away aside from the eyebags in his character model and i wanna kno what u hafta say ab it.........

You and I, we can be haters together

The one SMALL mercy I've found while looking up loz fics is that there's no lu fics in the ghiralink tag. For obvious reasons I think. Everywhere else seems to be a fucking HELLHOLE (the first thing I search when I first start looking for fics in a fandom is time travel and uh-- you can imagine what I found (BARELY FUCKING ANYTHING (and also lu)))

Also I haven't gotten around to watching an oot playthrough yet-- is it really that bad with Malon? (For the record I much prefer zelink and like-- I don't even really like zelink all that much beyond ss. And also I hc oot as siblings sometimes. So yeah.)

Honestly I would love to play oot but I can't :( and alas, watching playthroughs is just dreadfully dull (I got a decent way through an mm one though but gave up eventually). Regarding oot link's character though-- I admit I myself have not yet written a fic where it's not lu (or adjacent) so I don't really get the intricacies of his character (see also aforementioned playthrough dullness) so like. If you ever want to talk to someone about it all I would be interested

I also do the name thing, with game then character (on one hand the "hero titles" is just lazy and i really hate how it's become common and they would never give each other names like that but on the other the reason I haven't written much for MY links meet au is because I can't come up with 12 names that don't sound stupid and are also names they would give each other, so. And also apparently those names aren't official to lu (in comic jojo will use things like the old man (time) the smithy (four) the rancher (twilight) and full hero titles on posts (hero of the skies, hero of the four sword, etc)). So as you can see all bad things come from fandom, in this essay I will,

Ok so. It's been a while since I've fully played ss (like two months but my memory is just shit). So I might be wrong. But Link simply does not seem very sleepy to me? Especially not to the extent he is in lu.

For one-- our first introduction to him is him sleeping, yes, and we get told by many npcs and Zelda herself that he oversleeps, but there's a VAST difference between oversleeping and being sleepy. I myself am bad at alarms and such and beyond Premium Loftwing Mail (letter spat in your face) there's really nothing to wake him up, so he'd probably just sleep too long

Also he's been having dreams about the Imprisoned for who knows how long. Dude probably ain't sleeping that well (fi I love you but I think that might have been a mistake)

(Side note he's still in school and there's an open book on his desk-- he COULD be staying up late studying. Unlikely but I think that would be interesting)

Honestly it all just seems like teasing to me-- there's no indication that he's ACTUALLY constantly sleeping too long, just that it's happened enough times that some people have noticed (and it's not like everyone says it). Honestly the only thing pointing to a constant sleepiness is his "sit too long on a stool and start nodding off" animation (which is still like, really funny imo. how are you even DOING that you are SITTING STRAIGHT UP)

Now, delving into my own hcs and such-- he did not sleep. After Impa calls him lazy and too late at the earth temple, something I think would distinctly Fuck Him Up (he SAW the chains Zelda was held by), he would simply-- forgo sleep until it was necessary. I've seen estimates that sksw took place over about 11 months, and that's what I generally use in my fics, so-- my dude really said "I wont rest until I find Zelda" and then took a knife to his sleep schedule

(Side note-- do you think they held a funeral (or Skyloft equivalent) for Zelda? Like it seems that after a week or so of searching, the reasonable conclusion of her being dead would be reached (especially if her bird came back, which-- what's up with that? There must be some nesting area for loftwings, so either it would be seen there or it would also be presumed alongside Zelda if it got sucked down to the surface))

So anyway. His tiredness is self imposed, not something he's always had. (One of my febuwhump fics was that he was literally so exhausted he got hurt and passed out midfight. It was fun.)

Also like I don't know if it's just me but sleepy and tired have different meanings-- sleepy is, idk, cuter? Softer? And tired is. I haven't slept in 17 hours and before that I slept for three hours. (Maybe THAT'S just why it bugs me so much)

And also! Like you said! Beyond the eyebags (which are always there, lending credit to my theory of oversleeping because he simply didn't sleep well/enough) he's really... not tired OR sleepy for the majority of the game

Anyway moving onto lu :) SKY BEING THE LAZY ONE REALLY BUGS ME BECAUSE SIR HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED THE GAME. YOU'RE GOING TO ASSIGN HIM THE ATTRIBUTE OF LAZINESS WHEN HE ALMOST CERTAINLY PUSHED HIMSELF HARDER TO RESCUE ZELDA AFTER BEING CALLED SUCH? AND THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GOING TO REDUCE HIM TO? YOU COULD'VE AT LEAST PICKED SOMETHING COOL LIKE "GOD KILLER" OR SOMETHING ACCURATE LIKE "LITTLE SHIT"

Ha. He's the one who bugs me the most because ss is my favorite game (not just Zelda game, favorite out of anything) and I've put literal hundred of hours into it. There's honestly more I could say but i fear I've already descended into "wildly incomprehensible"

[hello-nichya-here]

1 - Even if that were true (which we have no evidence of and this fandom should stop treating headcanons as canon) that doesn't change the fact that she was raised to think that way. Propaganda and indoctrination come in more than one way.

2 - Azula never said anything bad about Lu Ten. She shit-talked IROH for letting his grief prevent him from helping their nation get a major victory - which surprise, surprise, it's a clear form of indoctrination, seeing the "greater good of the nation" as more important than anything else.

3 - Again, Iroh was an adult man and constantly shown to know the truth behind his nation's lies - hence him sharing Roku and Sozin's story with Zuko - yet he spent all of book 1 helping Zuko try to capture the Avatar so their nation could win the war. Why does he get treated as a saint while Azula is "the devil" despite her being the literal child between the two of them?

I never understood why Azula is the only one supposedly 'evil' for supporting the war when the entire country was like that. Like all the generals clapped at Ozai's plan not to mention all the soldiers in the airships who were going to burn down the Earth kingdom. There was even a joke intended to humanize them but somehow the 14 year old is the only pure evil one. The entire Fire nation supported and worshipped Ozai and the war so why the heck is Azula the only one gettting bashed??

EXACTLY! For fuck’s sake, Zuko went back to the Fire Nation for purely selfish reasons after seeing first hand how much the war was hurting the other nations, yet we still acknowledged his pain, wanted him to do better, and were constantly hoping someone would give him the chance to do better. Azula was younger than him, and didn’t get to distance herself from all that brainwashing the entire nation went through like Zuko did when he was banished, yet she’s seen as the only evil one. 

Even Iroh, the character who’s complexity and faults the fandom loves to ignore and ironically makes him less interesting by doing so, only went “War is bad” when his own son died. He needed to go through one of the worst losses a person could go through to finally understand that other people are human too and their feelings are not lesser. And he was an adult man.

But the fourteen year old child soldier, who was neglected and abused, dared to stand against the fandom’s favorite characters and win 8 times out of 10, so she is evil and irredimable.

[aiden-png]

if this LU fandom drama doesn’t stop I’m gonna yeet back to BotW and FSA oof. I’ve already been losing interest in writing for LU bc of this and idk if I’ll ever want to write for LU again if the fandom continues to be toxic :( I had a Four-centric longfic idea planned for LU that I’m considering just making FSA at this point. idk. I love the friends I’ve made in LU and I won’t leave the servers but the drama is more stress than I need right now :/

[low-budget-korra]

My controversial opinions on Avatar #3

-Katara and Azula are best parallel in the Avatar verse. And yet so overlooked.

-Uncle Iroh failed Azula and I it was because of two things. First is misogyny and second and maybe the most important one, he saw his son in Zuko. He already was closed to Zuko because he was the male nephew, but after Lu Ten died, he saw in Zuko a chance to be a father again.

-Since we are talking about her. No, Azula wasn't pure evil or a psychopath. She did care, she loved, she suffered, she feared, she felt empathy...and even with all the manipulation Ozai did to her, sometimes she was able to show all that. And stop comparing her to Kuvira. Azula was a 14'old who was abandoned, manipulated and emotionally abused. Kuvira is a grown ass woman who knew better.

-No, it wasn't Suyin duty to rule The Earth Kingdom after the queen death, or wherever some of y'all demanded. Her duty was with the Metal Clan. And I know it may be selfish and all but her duty and responsibilities was with the Metal Clan. And especially in that time of caos, is logical she would choose to stay and take care of her city. She could have helped? Sure but I'm being realistic here and even tho I don't agree I also don't think is her fault that Kuvira raised to power like I've seen some people commented

-This one may trigger some people but here we go. It bothers me how most of the Korrasami fandom go way too fast assuming that Korra is the masc/butch of the relationship just because she is tomboyish. Like yeah, let's ignore that she literally wore dresses on the show and seems hella comfortable with wearing them. And that Asami was way more close to wear a suit than Korra ever was.

Personally I think Asami gives more masc energy than Korra, I think Korra is something in between. Like, def not a femme but still not a masc.

And also bothers me that some of people in the fandom treat Korra like she was a savage. She is always being portrait as this brute, super impulsive, aggressive and dumb. And it feels racist u know?! Especially because we know she is smart and caring and sweet and def not a savage. So why people keep portraying her that way? Stop treating Korra like she was just a pile of muscles, she ain't, she is way more than that.

Ps: It's okay to do shit (fanarts and fanfic) with Korra losing it for a moment, or wearing suits and be masc wherever. This is to the people who only portrait her like that, ignoring the canon

-99% of the characters in tlok are developed or have at the very least a closed arc. Don't compare them to tla characters because tla have the double episodes to develop them, and don't compare with shows that don't have half of the characters tlok had. Considering the time and number of characters to work with, they did a amazing job.

When development ain't the same as time screen. And with tlok, half of the development had to happen off screen, with them just suggesting stuff too us complete in our head. And development happened either you like or not. The same goes with them being deep or not, I think they are, but again, a lot os things is suggested and not showed to us. That's why people keeping saying tlok characters aren't that deep or that they didn't have development

[skepticalarrie]

Allie why do you think if Harry come out it’ll be a suicidal move for him? I think the lgtbiq+ part of the fandom obviously will stay, the hardcore ones too and also new lgtbiq+ fans will start listening to him more

Love, I’m sorry but I think you have been living under a rock if you don’t think Harry is still heavily marketed as a sex symbol that fucks around with everyone. Huge (!!!) part of his fanbase consists of heterosexual women who thinks he’s hot and fantasize about him. The way Watermelon Sugar was marketed?! It it wasn’t for that 🐱 stunt the song wouldn’t have half its relevance. And then again with Cinema and the wet line, some people can’t stop talking about choke her with a sea view. The signs people were bringing to his US tour?! Oof

Don’t get me wrong, we’ve come a long way and lgbtq+ fans are a relevant part of his fanbase, he waves pride flags, he plays gay roles, there are also men included in his music videos and all that shit. But he’s heavily marketed to his heteronormative fanbase. Go compare the numbers of views on music videos like WS/LU/LNT to TPWK, for example. Gay and flamboyant Harry is beautiful and amazing on our little bubble but not for general public (yet). Coming outs are tricky marketing-wise. He can’t simply throw everything out of the window and come out as gay and dating a guy, it would ruin everything about his public persona, his branding. It’s what people know about him. A rebranding needs to happen, but he’s clearly not quite there yet. Baby steps.

[ao3feed-zukka]

won't stop breathing, won't stop loving (you)

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/3EqMRHy

by littencloud9

Zuko’s glare sharpens. Sokka’s throat goes dry when he sees Zuko stand up, towering over the minister with burning anger, barely restrained fury. His chest was heaving, and Sokka knew he was telling himself to breathe before he lost patience completely.

“You dare speak to your Fire Lord in that way?” Zuko whispers, his voice soft yet dangerous.

Holy shit. Is it wrong that Sokka is finding this really attractive? Because he is.

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Sokka accidentally comes across Zuko dealing with one of his asshole ministers when he visits the palace, and it takes everything in him to not interrupt them and propose to Zuko right on the spot.

Words: 2556, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Avatar: The Last Airbender

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: M/M

Characters: Sokka (Avatar), Zuko (Avatar), Suki (Avatar), Ty Lee (Avatar)

Relationships: Sokka/Zuko (Avatar)

Additional Tags: tysuki if you squint really really hard, Firelord Zuko (Avatar), Chief-In-Training Sokka (Avatar), Established Relationship, Post-Canon, Fluff, Idiots in Love, Protective Zuko (Avatar), half of this is just sokka simping lmao, no beta we die like lu ten, rated t for a bit of swearing (like. one), this is just me overusing italics oops

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/3EqMRHy