#steph was 16ish

[lesbian-cowpoke]

Jason Todd being Tim's Robin in fanon stems from trying to make sense of the wacky timeline bullshit created by the writers doing their best to entirely erase Jason Todd. It's why Dick is Tim's favorite Robin. Dick was Robin from when Tim was 4-10, the longer amount of time, so he still could have been Tim's favorite Robin regardless, but it's also. The writers really really hated that little boy.

[zahri-melitor]

How old are the bats supposed to be?

During which period? There are variations depending on what time period you're reading.

Pre-Crisis? As at COIE, characters are roughly these ages:

Bruce is in his early 30s

Barbara is in her mid 20s

Dick is 19 or just 20 (depends which side of Crisis you put NTT18)

Jason is 13ish years old

Post-Crisis? (1986-2011) This is the clearest and most consistent period, with regular markers of the progress of time. As at Flashpoint, characters are about these ages:-

Bruce is probably 42

Barbara is in her mid-late 20s

Helena B. is in her mid-late 20s

Kate Kane is in her mid-late 20s (at MOST. Her timeline doesn't make sense otherwise)

If JPV was alive, he'd be 25ish

Dick is about 24-25

Cass is 20 years old

Jason is 19 years old

Steph is 18 years old

Tim is 17 years old and probably about to turn 18

Damian is 10 years old

(the middle kids' ages are all based on Tim being close to a birthday. Cass is 6 months older than Jason, Jason's birthday is a month after Tim's. If Tim's a long way from a birthday, Cass may still be 19)

Then we get the New 52 (2011-2016) and everyone's ages are indeterminate but young! This is my best approximation from not enough age markers and the entire period being about a year in-universe.

Bruce is somewhere between 28-32 (deep sigh)

Kate Kane is probably about 28 years old (it depends on how old Bruce is and how old he was when his parents died; she's younger than he is but not by much)

Julia Pennyworth is in her mid 20s

Barbara is 22-23 years old

Dick is 22 years old

Jason is 20-21 years old, and definitely 21 by the end of the period (SIGH)

Luke Fox is about 20 years old

Tim is 16 years old

Cass is an indeterminate teenage age, probably 16-17

Steph is 16 years old

Harper is 16-17 years old

Duke is, you guessed it, 16ish years old

Damian is 10-11 years old

This is why I don't like New 52 ages.

As of Rebirth (2016 to date), the timeline gets about 10-12 years reinserted in it and some sanity in terms of ages and age gaps starts to re-emerge (though it's clumpy and there's a lot of varying indications). At present characters are approximately these ages:-

Bruce is in his mid 40s

Kate Kane sure is An Age. She's probably about 28-30, unless she's in her late 30s/early 40s (look. Kate's age makes absolutely no sense. Do not look at it too closely. Her timeline is not coherent matched against anyone else's, given the requirement she was kicked out of West Point)

Barbara is probably around 30ish

Dick is about 28-30 years old

Jason is probably about 23-25 years old depending on timeline and writing.

Luke Fox? I haven't sussed out what they've done to all the Fox Kid Ages again in the wake of John Ridley's retcons. He appears to be in his 20s right now.

Cass is supposed to be 23-24 years old but may be written anywhere down to 16.

Steph is somewhere between 19-22, depending on if the writers remember she's not 16 today

Tim is probably anywhere between 18/19 (practical lower limit) and 21 years old

Duke is probably still around 17-19 years old

Damian is 14.

This whole section is messy as the only definite age we have at the moment is Damian being 14. It's mostly assumed that ages have returned to the Post-Crisis gaps, except where noted otherwise (Tim probably lost 1-2 years in his age gap to Damian as of Rebirth, as he is definitely 16 years old at the start of Rebirth. Jason seems to have kept a extra year or few in his gap to Tim, rather than it being 2 years)

[follower-of-many-fandoms]

My head cannon is similar to yours with some difference (mostly person preference, and when I start figuring it out, I started with Dick)

I actually though a lot about this and I typically go for this is when Damian first comes to the manor [Bruce 37, Babs 25, Dick 23, Cass 20, Jason 20, Steph 18, Tim 17, Duke 13, Dami 10] I did it this way because:

1) we know that bruce was young when he took in Dick so I placed 15 years between them.

2) the general age I see for Dick when Jason dies is late teens or very early Cass, and we know Jason dies at 15 so I placed 4ish years between them. This place Dick losing Robin 16 in which Dick moves in with the titans (for the most part) and Jason dies when Dick is 19ish

3) We know Tim saw the death of the Graysons when he was young and unless there was some multiverse stuff at play (likely) Tim's 2-4 when it occurs and we also know Dick was anywhere from 8-14 when his parents dies so that give a lot of time however I go with age 8-9ish typically (symbolism and all that) so if we place Tim on the younger and that give 6 years difference (which all makes sense till Jason death this can be elaborated on but moving on).

4) we know Cass and Jason are the same age (mostly) and the same with Tim and Steph but Steph is older then Tim so 1 year extra.

5) when Damian came to Gotham when he was 10 and we also know that barely a year later Bruce gets lost in the time stream and Tim is 17.

6) Duke comes to Wayne manor when he is 16ish and that’s a few years after Dami so 2-3 year difference.

However, all this get Defenestration when we look at a few random things like how old Dick was when Bruce was lost however that can thankfully be fixed by look at Dami and Dick age difference similar to Dicks and Bruces which works well in a story. Another thing is that fast aging and no aging that affects the story.

But honestly I like this step up for many reason one because it places the bat kids more relative in age, help me understand fit better by putting a rudimentary age on it, but my favourite reason of all is because it make Bruce stupidly young if he had fathered them which is so funny to me especially with Dick and Jason Fics like he 37 when he gets lost in the time stream and Tim was born when Bruce was 20 (like my mum had me at that age but still crazy more so when I think about that being me in a few years crazy) and 23 when he takes in Dick 33 when he lose Jason, Tim figure out there Identity and Jason taken in when Bruce is 29.

Which over all sounds old but when you consider other heroes (i.e. Marvel Iron Man he in his late thirties when he started and whilst their backstory is wildly different in many ways there story also Aline in other which is what me Bauck at how young he is like).

And this ends the long rant.

what are your guys thoughts on batboys ages?

[ectonurites]

kara is on the same age bracket as cassie?! damn, i always thought she was around the titans’ generation in age. weren’t her and babs friends?

Kara’s one of those characters who has had her age moved around with reboots, so like different things have been true at different times.

I’m not a Kara expert but from my understanding: Pre-Crisis she was friends with Babs and more part of that generation- but then she died in the crisis. The version of her that was later introduced in the 2000’s Post-Crisis was back at 16ish and friends/peers with Cassie (and like Steph during her time as Batgirl). In the New 52 she was also a teenager, although I believe right now as of her current mini in Infinite Frontier she’s newly 21.

So she’s kinda… been all over the place.

[lowin]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Batman - All Media Types Rating: Explicit Warnings: Rape/Non-Con, Underage Relationships: Ra's al Ghul/Jason Todd Characters: Ra's al Ghul, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne Additional Tags: Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Omega Jason Todd, Alpha Ra's al Ghul, Dick Tim and Damian are also there though they don't speak, they're all alphas, Talia and Nocturna are in here too, The Borgias (Showtime) au, the Waynes are the Borgias, Bruce is the Pope, Jason is Lucrezia, Dick is Cesare, everyone wants a piece of Jason, Bruce Wayne is Jason's biological father, the Robins are Bruce's biological children, except Steph but she doesn't show up yet, Arranged Marriage, Loss of Virginity, First Time, Jason is 16ish but it's not mentioned, Blasphemy, Kinda impregnation kink, Ra's just wants an heir ok?, Humiliation, Knotting, Omega Verse Series: Part 1 of Jason Wayne, aka Lucrezia Borgia Summary:

When Bruce Wayne, Archbishop of Gotham, Head of the Wayne Family, is elected as Pope, Ra’s is not surprised.

Just as Bruce shoudln't have been surprised when he received a proposal from the Demon's Head, asking for the hand of Bruce's only omega child in marriage.

 [aka The Borgias au, where Bruce is the Pope and everyone wants a piece of Jason, and Ra's gets one here]

[pepperstrawberry]

You've been posting a lot of Batman stuff about mental illness. There's some fan theory that the heroism and such is all in his head (especially with the cliche names, etc). If so, his caring for the villains, as they are mentally ill, definitely seems like a cry for help. Even if not in his head, I suppose. Anyway, roundabout way of asking, but are you doing okay?

Originally, I read this one way, and had an answer about my rant overall… but then I realized you meant ‘There is this theory’ as a seprate thought caused by my posts and not actually a statement from them.

1) I don’t escribe to that theory at all. That was born from most of the -bad- takes of Batman, not the good ones. Of course he might have cries for help himself, and he has a hard time actually talking to others about his issues even in the best written stories, but in those better written stories, he understands his pain well enough that he channels it into his work

2) Which is where his caring for his rogues gallery comes from in the first place. The best written batman is the one that had dealt with a fellow like Joe Chill (his parent’s killer in most canons) and comes out of it realizing that there is a deeper root cause to crime then just ‘grrr bad people’ as most folks play off superheroes doing. ‘I fight bad guys’… that’s not Batman at his core. He is a detective, he finds the root of the evil and hits that. He strikes fear because he knows that a lot of people will react to that faster. But at the same time (as i mentioned in one of my posts), he also as Bruce Wayne, has charities and works actively to pull Gotham out of the dark. If they would just actually work toward an ending rather then a status quo (the double edged blessing and curse of superhero comics in specific and a lot of stories in syndication in general), there is a good chance that a lot of Gotham would start to look like Metropolis (I don’t think one man, no matter how rich, can do it on his own, but that’s kinda the point because…)

3) A lot of folks who love the growly scowly frank miller mess batman forget that he gained a make shift family over the years. and I find it funny how rarely folks actually realize what they are saying in relation to batman, bruce himself when saying the phrase ‘Bat family’. Dick, Barbra, Steph, Cass, Damion, Tim, Jason, Alfred, and many others have come around him like a new family (Tim being actually adopted, and Damion being his real son). This is super important because of how he started. He lost a family, and now, in trying to make the world a better place, he gained a new one. One that is harder to loose because they can back him up.

Buuuuuuut… that is all stuff I basically said through all my reblogs.

I don’t think you meant any harm by it, but really I feel like that time years ago when a councilor at an after school therapy place did once. He was not my councilor, he didn’t really know me, and he was even a part of a different section.

Dude sat down next to me, looked at one of my drawing of a guy with a big sword and started asking me questions that went right to the frudian places you could probably guess. Even at the younger age I was at at the time (this was like, 20? years ago for me…. so like 16ish?) I know it was highly inappropriate what he was doing.

What i’m saying is, while I appreciate the concern, and I can understand your worry and concern, and I really do mean what I’m about to say in the up most respect:

Not only is it inappropriate to psychoanalyze someone you don’t know based on a handful of posts, but the way this question was posed is actually really uncomfortable.

If that wasn’t your intent, I do apologize, but that is how it comes across. If you follow my blog for any length of time, been on any of my streams at all or really anything like that, I’m actually rather open with my issues most of the time. I do have a great network of followers, friends, and mutuals here.

And yes, I really do need to see a proper councilor/therapist sometime as soon as I can (part of my frustration with loosing my job really).

But in either case, and no matter your intent, the rant and reblogs were all about characterization and story telling, not my own personal issues. I aspire to be a comic/story creator, and I have done some, I won’t call it extensive study, but I am far far more aware of the machinations of storytelling and characterization then I was in my childhood. Something that serves well for creating the story, but also adds to my frustration when… well, just look at all the posts I’ve done in the last few hours. ^_^;

So yes. Bottom line, I’m fine in that I know that I am not fine. I have friends, and sometimes a cigar is a cigar.

[ao3feed-brucewayne]

The Wedding

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/3isMtO1

by Lowin

When Bruce Wayne, Archbishop of Gotham, Head of the Wayne Family, is elected as Pope, Ra’s is not surprised.

Just as Bruce shoudln't have been surprised when he received a proposal from the Demon's Head, asking for the hand of Bruce's only omega child in marriage.

 [aka The Borgias au, where Bruce is the Pope and everyone wants a piece of Jason, and Ra's gets one here]

Words: 8429, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Series: Part 1 of Jason Wayne, aka Lucrezia Borgia

Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types

Rating: Explicit

Warnings: Rape/Non-Con, Underage

Categories: M/M

Characters: Ra's al Ghul, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne

Relationships: Ra's al Ghul/Jason Todd

Additional Tags: Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Omega Jason Todd, Alpha Ra's al Ghul, Dick Tim and Damian are also there though they don't speak, they're all alphas, Talia and Nocturna are in here too, The Borgias (Showtime) au, the Waynes are the Borgias, Bruce is the Pope, Jason is Lucrezia, Dick is Cesare, everyone wants a piece of Jason, Bruce Wayne is Jason's biological father, the Robins are Bruce's biological children, except Steph but she doesn't show up yet, Arranged Marriage, Loss of Virginity, First Time, Jason is 16ish but it's not mentioned, Blasphemy, Kinda impregnation kink, Ra's just wants an heir ok?, Humiliation, Knotting, Omega Verse

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/3isMtO1