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who tf looks at their boyfriend with this much awe?
ELENA GILBERT BITCHES đ€
#the vampire diaries#tvd fandom#tvd universe#tvdu#stefan salvatore#elena gilbert#stelena forever#pro stefan salvatore#stefan is the better brother#stefan x elena#elena x stefan#elena and stefan#stefan and elena#stelena study#stelena shippers club#stelena stan club#stelena is better#team stelena#stelena#tvd#nina dobrev#paul wesley
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âShe smiled against his lipsâ
#the vampire diaries#tvd fandom#tvd universe#tvdu#pro stefan salvatore#stelena forever#stefan is the better brother#stefan x elena#stefan salvatore#paul wesley#tvd#nina dobrev#elena x stefan#stefan and elena#elena and stefan#elena#elena gilbert#stelena study#tv shows#tv series#tvd books#the vampire diaries books#vampires#vampire diaries#anti delena#stelena is better#team stelena#team stefan#stelena#stelena is the best ship ever
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this parallel >>
#jelly#jeremiah x belly#bellyjere#them đ©·#stelena#stelena my beloveds#jellyfish 4L#they are so similar#the stelena to jelly pipeline is insane#needs to be studied in history books#tsitp#tvd#the vampire diaries#stefan salvatore x elena gilbert#stefan salvatore#elena gilbert#jeremiah fisher#belly conklin#the summer i turned pretty
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( #đđđđđđ ) â tag drop !
#i. savior of  the  cursed  and  the  damned Â Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â countenance.#ii. she  blossoms  under  kindness  like  a  rose Â Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â study.#iii. to  be  written  in  ink  is  to  be  immortal Â Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â prompts.#iv.    dear  diary  â  today  is  going  to  be  different    ïŒÂ   answered.#v.    get  excited  when  you  discover  something  rare Â Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â wishlist.#vi.    diamonds  are  forever Â Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â promos.#vii.    i  am  a  diamond Â Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â self  promo.#viii.    girls  like  her  come  once   in  a  century   ïŒÂ   aesthetic.#ix.    she  wants  somebody  to  hold  her  closeÂ Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â attraction.#x.    stars  spilling  off  her  lipsÂ Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â script.#xi.    if  it  were  my  choice  â  i'd  be  with  you  foreverÂ Â Â ïŒ Â Â Â stelena.
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âif every memory of me taken away from Stefan, he would wander all over the world looking for something without knowing what he was looking forâ
âIf every memory of Stefan were taken from me,I would still fall in love with him the very moment I saw himâ
- Elena Gilbert
#the vampire diaries#tvd fandom#tvd universe#tvdu#stelena forever#stelena study#stelena is better#team stelena#stefan x elena#stelena fanvid#stelena#pro stefan salvatore#tv series#tvd villans#elena x stefan#team stefan#elena and stefan#stefan and elena#elena gilbert#elena#send asks#anti damon salvatore#anti delena#tvd books#books and reading#booklr#vampires#vampire diaries#vampire aesthetic#stefan
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This comment about Delena's first sex scene makes me laugh, claiming it felt more like frantic sexual tension than taking time to get to know and love the other's body. Elena never smiled as widely when having sex with Stefan as she did Damon in 4x7, 4x8, and 5x1. I love her smile in 4x7 since she's actually enjoying her body instead of feeling suicidal and viewing it as burden (Stelena's first sex soundtrack is about self harm) or a bargaining chip. Also I love the gentle first kiss when Damon is on top and the fact that he looks spellbound when she's on top and isn't insecure in his masculinity to not let her top. The way she kisses his arm is sweet as well. Also in their sex/kissing scenes they always make it a point to pause and look lovingly into each other's eyes. When Damon had sex when Rebekah they didn't do that since they weren't in love. They often hold hands in their sex scenes as well:
Elena was attracted to Damon, but the sex they had in 4x07 wasn't the same as Stelena's first love scene in 1x11. Delena's first sex scene was basically "let's finally fuck these feelings out" after a lot of sexual tension had built up (as well as "Let's see how many walls we can smack ourselves into" and "how much stuff we can break"), not "I want to take time to get to know you, know your body, and I want you to be comfortable with me" and about two people who love each other so passionately finally coming together. That is the difference. None of it felt like love. It just felt like "let's fuck our feelings out". She loved Stefan until Julie Plec wrote her own fanfic.
Uhm, they already know and love the others body. I know fans like to pretend they haven't seen each other half naked before, but they have. Elena takes a great moment at the motel in Denver to study every inch of Damon... literally from boots to face. Their 4x7 sex plays out as it does because Elena has a season of pent-up sexual energy for Damon. While fans may feel it's rushed, it's not. They're literally picking up where they left off in 3x19. I've put this to gif before because every Delena sex scene tells a story just like every dance they have. Delena is allowed to sex how they want because they spent 3 seasons building what they have, and fans can trust what they have is quite powerful. They're written to be unbreakable by anything. That's why I love Caroline's line in 2x22. "So basically it's like Atlanta has burned. And yet, in spite of everything, we persevere." It's all Delena.
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"It was as if Stefan was caressing the entirety of Elenaâs body -- the sensation was overwhelming; she could feel the movement of his touch between her legs, and she ached to feel the power of him solid within her, to feel the magnitude of them; she hadnât realized just how much she missed the love they made during their time apart. The pangs of desire she felt were so acute, she was lightheaded but the only desire stronger than her physical one was the desire to keep looking at him, to study him, bask in his gaze. He was there. With her. Again. Always."
no one does "always" better than stelena
"His certainty that she could get through this had become her certainty and had improved her mood significantly, allowing her to move on to the next part of his regimen: vamp speed."
lol the foreshadowing
LOL STELENAS MAKE OUT SESSION IS HOTTER THAN ANY DELENA SEX SCENE DAMN
"I mean it," she said, lifting his head so she could hold either side of his face and look into his eyes. "I'll kill anything that gets in our way."
He cleared his throat. â"What do you want to do?"
Elena looked at him. âI donât - I -you said we should train.âÂ
âYes, but what do you want to do? You, Elena?â There was a hint of frenzy in his tone, his expression.
me, knowing that this is one of the worst things that couldve happened to stelena, considering how much stefan values elena's autonomy:
âItâs about Elena,â said Stefan.
Klaus scoffed. âNaturally.âÂ
KLAUS IS SO PETTY. and jealous đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
âStefan, you would never make me do something I didnât want to do.â
âNot intentionally but you canât live with this over your head.â
Elena nodded. âI agree.â She touched his arm. âSo weâll figure it out. Weâll find a way to break it.âÂ
Stefan moved out of her hold. âYeah, I will.â
THIS HURTS. like... this hurts ME as a reader. cant even imagine how elena must feel hearing this. not only is she a new vamp with heightened emotions but shes also sired to this man. hes basically pulling the rug out from under her feet
âHow many times are you going to do this? You did this at the Mikaelson ball,â she said angrily. âYou did this over the summer. You did it last year---â
âItâs just until I figure this out.â
âWe will figure this out! Iâm not just going to sit around and do nothing.â
Stefan cleared his throat. âOK so then you can see if Bonnie has any information and I will work it from my end and---â
âYouâre missing the part where we do this together.â
She was shouting. âWhat did you think I meant when I said that it was me and you? Always? Always, Stefan, does that mean nothing to you?â
He looked at her sharply. It means everything to me. But he didnât say it. Elena searched his eyes, waiting for a response and when he refused to give her one, she couldnât help but start to cry, and everything in Stefan shifted.Â
He touched her face. "No, no, no, donât cry,â he had said it without thinking but the second he did, Elena took a shuddering breath and stopped.
Stefan started shaking his head.âSee? This is exactly why we canât be around each other.â
I. AM. DROWNING. IN. ANGST.
âAnd it wonât! Weâll figure it out together. Itâs what I want and I know itâs what you want too.â
âItâs not,â he said definitively. âItâs not what I want.â
Stefan almost faltered at the betrayal on Elenaâs face.Â
âYouâre lying,â she whispered.
âItâs not what I want,â he said again. âI mean it.âÂ
He left and when he was sure he was out of earshot, fell apart."
LOL klaus was SO petty this fic.
THIS HURTS. like⊠this hurts ME as a reader. cant even imagine how elena must feel hearing this. not only is she a new vamp with heightened emotions but shes also sired to this man. hes basically pulling the rug out from under her feet
which is also why i was like she also has to get angry and indignant, it's not just bewildered and sad, it would make sense for her to be like are you fucking kidding me but i didn't want it to have the steroline feel in season 8
i wanted it more like a very heightened 3x05
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FIC REC FRIDAY!!!
week #1
The Girls Born Wrong by turningofflights
Bamon/Stelena/Klaroline soulmate AU. Everyone is born with a soulmate. Whatever is written in ink on one is written on the other. While everyone around them talks to their soulmate innocently from childhood, Bonnie, Elena, and Caroline are forbidden from talking to theirs. Why? They were born marked.
 this fic is an absolute work of art! i still remember the way my eyes were absolutely glued to the screen while i devoured it. itâs not focused singularly on klaroline, but i only consider that a strength: the true strength of this work is the friendship between elena, bonnie and caroline, and it is truly masterfully done. It even provides a fascinating little look into caroline and klausâs relationship with their mothers, which yâall know iâm feral for.
the klaroline section will stun you into speechlessness. itâs a study in grief and surviving it, in learning to forgive yourself. itâs a relationship built in quiet moments of stillness, in small shows of affection rather than grand, dramatic gestures.
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Tvd 5x19
Stelena flirting and studying together is so cute.
Ian try and do something different for no humanity Damon.
Stelena hugs still own any other pairing.
Keeping Enzoâs death a secret is stupid but it puts Elena and Stefan together, so I donât hate it.
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a.) Iâll always wonder whether they wouldâve reintroduced the cure/use it to revert Elenaâs vampirism if Dobrev hadnât decided to leave the show. it wasnât until 6x01 that Elena started to once again complain about the downsides; in fact, in season five she enjoyed the advantages on multiple occasions, revelling in it (cutting herself painlessly in Qetsiyahâs doppel ritual while Amara and Katherine complained, praising it to Jesse, etc.). which happened because the show had shifted to Klausieâs perspective that Vampirism Rules, something Damon/Delena were closer to than Stefan/Stelena.
b.) the fact that knowing Damon intended to withhold the cureâs existence from her after all the sneak interrogating and talk about children and shit, she still takes him back (not exactly the worst line heâs crossed but.)... this girl shouldâve studied more and read about the sunk-cost fallacy, istg xDD
#stackediaries#talking to the void#my thoughts#plecverse thoughts#tvd 6x19#elena gilbert#my schrödinger fave#antidelena for ts#the vampire diaries#plecverse
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this exam season is rly out to get me!!! i was hoping to be here a little but with all this last minute studying while looking for a new place to live i am knackered at the end of the day. started rewatching tvd though to wind down and i am absolutely reverting back into my adolescent stelena stan. hope ur all doing well!
#only thing getting me through may is the thought of the two weeks i'll be spending in greece in july. pray i make it through#⎠ââË Ë â đŠđł. â° Â ooc.  emotionally unstable yeehaw.
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Had to follow for these impeccable points. The not choosing to follow on the sexiness of them being Italian men is ridiculous-they could have at least had a few times of them saying Italian words. I was doing film studies of the vampire myth, and it is rooted in a metaphor for slavery. there is a parallel there, If you notice, they discuss the union being equated with vampires (which actually happened in history âsucking up our lifeblood-our slaves keep our wealthâ) and the burning of the building kat was in because they said they were union but really vampires. Damon choosing desertion of the confederacy after being drafted because he doesnât believe in slavery, and then the mirror with him being one of the vampires enslaved and farmed for physical prowess in his blood and tortured for years, historically mirrors the time slaves were tortured and their blood was experimented on with the syphillis virus. This is research-backed vampire mythology. So I think thatâs what they were trying to do, but weâre also too scared to make it that obvious so people could pick up on it. So I think this is very important to notice to understand why they chose America as the place they grew up in- but itâs still likely the Salvatore family was Italian immigrants. About people simping klaus and kai-completely derails any virtue-signaling arguments they have against Damon, and that Caroline had against Damon. Klaus abused Caroline as well. Stefan abused women as well. Kai is literally a psychopath. The virtue signaling is to cover up that they simply like who they like- it IS truly just personality favoring, and anger over their ship stelena not working out- but they try to prop their argument with virtue signaling. Just be real, people. Stefan is my least favorite character, and I could write dissertations about how toxic and abusive he is, but I know I canât say that he is âworseâ than Damon or klaus or Kai- they are all bad. I simply feel worse towards him because of my own personality and experiences with men like him. Be real, people. Your psychology of denial is showing.
My Possible Unpopular TVD Opinions
DISCLAIMER: This is MY fucking opinions, lets be for real. If you donât agree, then good. If you do, then great.
This fandom doesnât realize everyoneâs horrible. One thing Iâve noticed about this fanodm is that people really like to pick and choose whoâs the worst or the âleast worseâ character. Idk, I just find it weird that someone favors Klaus Mikaelson, but HATES Damon Salvatore. As if Klaus isnât terribly worse. Almost every single character in this series has done a multidue of horrible things, especially the vampires, so it doesnât make sense to people do that. I understand if it was based on personalities, but the way people express their likings, it doesnât seem like it is. For example, the whole Damon versus Stefan debate. Some people hate Damon because what heâs done, but turn around and love Stefan even though heâs done the same shit, and even worse.
Damon didnât need to be labeled as the âbetter manâ. Look, Damon is my FAVORITE character. I love that man with all of my heart, but truthfully, I donât think he shouldâve been the âbetter manâ. All Damonâs life he has been coming second to Stefan. With their parents, Katherine, Elena, and damn near everyone else. And honestly, I think it got worse with Elena because deep down, she wanted him to be âDamon with Stefan-like qualitiesâ. But heâll never be Stefan. And thatâs okay. I think Damonâs arc shouldâve concluded with him accepting the fact that heâll never be the better man, and him being okay with being imperfect. Not everyone has to be the hero.
Bamon shouldâve fucking happened! If Bamon has one fan, itâs me. If Bamon has no fans, Iâm no longer on Earth. I just really, REALLY, love this ship, I donât think you guys understand. Honestly, it mightâve been better than Delena. Damon and Bonnie have some underrated chemistry and tension since day one. And they had a great set up. Damon sworn to protect the Bennet bloodline and now he has this girl who pushes his buttons alot, while heâs constantly pushing her buttonsâUGH, I love it. True enemies to friends to lovers. They shouldâve ended up together, atleast once. But we all know why it didnât happen *cough* julie *cough*.
Carolineâs such a fucking hypocrite. I love Caroline, but she also annoys the fuck outta me. And I think itâs just her natural personality. Sheâs just so judgemental that it drives me crazy, and personally, I can never be friends with someone who always has ann opinion on the shit I do. What really bothered me about her is her drilling down on Elena during the first part of season 4 about Damon. Which I wouldâve understood considering her abusive past with Damon, however, she never mentioned or brought up that as a reason why she hates Damon or why Elena shouldnât love him. Instead, she came off really fucking hypocritcial because not even five second after basically calling Elena an idiot for picking Damon, sheâs LAUGHING WITH KLAUS?!?!? Aka the most evil mf in the entire series, like letâs be so fucking fr. Klaus is ten times worse than Damon and this bitch is laughing it up with him over champagne. And not to mention she sleeps with him later on.
Bonnie wouldâve made a better protagonist. Bonnieâs storyline had so much potential to be stretched out. Like she came from a very powerful coven that dated back to the first creation of an immortal being AND the other side. Her ancestoral history with the Salvatore brothers. The way she became one of the most powerful witchesâlike she fucking stopped hell fire, bffr. And Bonnieâs fine asf, sheâs that girl. I think her character arc is good, and wouldâve been great if racism didnât occur with Kat Graham.
Elena is not as bad as yâall say she is. Can she a be a little self-centered? Yeah. But itâs not hard to understand why. During the first few seasons, EVERYONE made everything about Elenaâespecially Damon and Stefan. Like Bonnie was about to die for her during season 2. Everyone has risked everything for her. Shit, if people treated me like that, I would think everythingâs about me, too! And no, Elenaâs not a crybaby. If I was going through everything she was going through, I would cry every day and night. Girl lost two sets of parents, her brother at one point, and both of her guardians (Jenna and Alaric). And at one point, lost the love of her life (Damon in S6). Not to mention, someone was always trying to kill her, and then she had to deal with an evil doppleganger. Shehas every reason to cry. And the weird thing about that is, everyone calls Elena a crybaby but not Klaus? Every damn picture I see of that man, heâs crying his eyes out. Itâs always that same damn crying face too. I love Klaus but yâall really be pickin and choosin who to pick on.
Damon and Stefanâs background shouldâve been talked about more. I still donât know why the producers, or whoever, changed their origins from the books (as far as I know they were from the 1500s in Italy) but I think changing it was so unnecessary. I donât know why people have such an obsession with 1800s, but itâs WEIRD how we collectively decided to treat that time as an aesthetic while this country was treating people like animals, but hey, thatâs just me. ANYWAYS, I think they shouldâve brought up the brothersâ history and background earlier in the series, instead of waiting till the end where the rest of the story was falling flat. Because if weâre being honest, in the early seasons, we donât know much about them. Hell, I donât even think we know their birthdays. Like weâre aware of their troubled past, but we donât know their family backgrounds, and I feel like knowing someoneâs familia backgrounds helps understanding their core.
âWhen I kill someone, theyâre supposed to stay dead!â. Alaric shouldâve stayed dead. Jeremy shouldâve stayed dead. End of story.
Kaiâs actions are not justified. This fandom and hundreds of others have a tendecy of babying these grown ass people. So what Kaiâs family treated him differently. That literally happens to damn near everyone in this world. It does not give you anexcuse to kill your entire family, INCLUDING CHILDREN?? Bitch you deserve to get locked up. They shouldâve killed his ass but thatâs just me. But Kaiâs fun, I suppose. I just donât like it when people baby him trying to justify him killing innocent children just because his father didnât love him enough. Who cares? Go to fucking therapy like the rest of us. And then yâall tried to ship him with BONNIE?? OUR PRECIOUS BONNIE?? Itâs like yâall forgot how he made her life a living hell in that prison world, which led her to almost killing herself. Bonkai could burn, donât ever bring up that garbage ass shit ever again in my presence.
Might do a part two
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If Stefan Salvatore was my boyfriend, I simply would not leave him for his brother.
RIP to Elena Gilbert but Iâm different :/
#caroline forbes probably#bitches being rewatching random episodes of tvd instead of studying#it's me i'm bitches#steroline#stelena#tvd#team stefan
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â this story was never going to end how we wanted | letters of a lost love.//t.c
#stelenaedit#tvdedit#stelena#stefan x elena#stelena shippers club#mine#gif#the vampire diaries#this summer i plan to post at least a few gifsets#and then i'll probably stop#bc i start uni in October and I want to do my best which equals more studying and less computer#but we'll see
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It pisses me off that Vicki gets more hate for dating Jeremy from hypocritical Stefan fans cause of their age difference and her being a senior but they make so many excuses for Stefan. They say things like Vicki wasn't a vampire when she started dating Jeremy so she can't be held to the same standards in a fantasy show as Stefan. They say that Stefan dating Elena is fine even though he's 163 years old at the start of the show because he turned a few months before his 18th birthday even though Stefan has referred to himself as 163 years old or more multiple times in the show, especially when he celebrates his birthday. He may be physically 17, though he definitely looks older than that, but he is mentally older based on his life experiences. He's been in love and slept with more people than Elena did before and after dating him, has held numerous jobs, studied at Ivy League schools, traveled the world, lived independently for a long time, served in the military, etc. His best friend Lexi turned in her 20s. Some of their conversations show the gap in the eras they were born in so why can't they ever hold Stefan accountable for anything. When Stelena were making out in bed an episode before Elena found out Stefan was a vampire they couldn't escalate things further because of Stefan's bloodlust. I've also seen people argue that Stefan hiding his vampirism from Elena, Ivy, and the other women he's been physically involved with in some way or another isn't a big deal and they compare it to cheaters hiding their martial status which is a dumb argument since he's inherently a predator as a vampire regardless of his beliefs but nonethless he personally has two extreme personalities as one. I feel so bad for Ivy and how he preyed on her for a long time to make himself feel human and once she turned into a vampire due to his negligence and found out about his truth too late he basically toss her aside and Caroline had to try cleaning up his mess. Many Stefan stans infantilize Stefan and say Katherine was 400 years old and preyed on a 17 year old even though she was about 19 when she turned but don't hold him accountable for him sleeping with Elena and other high school girls. Stefan stans say shit like stan Stefan for staking Vicki, though most of them completely blame Damon for it. I've started stanning Vicki out of spite.
Fans are really ignorant to the truth of the matter. I don't know where Mystic Falls is supposed to be located according to the show, but if it's in Virginia, the age of consent is 15 and Vicki is still in high school.
Age isn't just a number. It's about how that number differentiates two people. Stefan isn't 17, his body is. As far as I'm concerned, a mere shell holding everything within. Knowledge and experience in EVERY aspect of life. A common question older people are asked. "If you could give your younger self advice, what would it be?" That's what age gives. Not your body, but your actual life experience. Stefan has an insane amount as you've stated. He's 163 years old, not 17. I have a son with autism, so I speak from a parent's perspective. Age works both ways, so while a 16 year old could act like they're 30, a 30 year old could act like they're 16. I'm gonna tell you the one thing Stefan has that his 163 years gave him. Power over Elena. His education alone, like a teacher dating his student. Worse (by far) for Stefan to date Elena than for Vicki to date Jeremy. Fans like to act as if Stefan was 12 when he paired with Katherine, but no. He was older than Jeremy when he met her.
Damon and Stefan have a lot of shared blame. Vicki's death is one of them and they do it on purpose. Stefan starved Damon. I don't think fans realize just how close he was to being a living corpse. He was so weak that he collapsed in Vicki's arms. Damon tells it like it is. Stefan wanted to stop Elena from learning their truth, and because Damon was locked in the cellar and couldn't give her that, she got it from other characters like Logan and the old man. That's why Damon flat-out said, "Stefan finally fessed up." Their vampirism wasn't a truth that Elena deserved to know, but actually needed to know because their secret literally kills. The writers have done everything they can to hammer in the fact that vampires are predators. They're never truly safe for humans. I honestly don't know what I feel about Vicki, but I do know she has a huge parallel with Elena that I plan to put together sometime soon. And you're right, Stefan didn't have to kill her. I believe he chose to because he was afraid she'd be a ripper like him, and he didn't wanna deal with that.
Fans comparing Stefan hiding his vampirism to hiding his marital status is absurd, and only goes to show how inexperienced they are. The real truth of Stefan hiding his vampirism from Elena is shown in the show itself. He might as well have compelled her into a relationship with him, and he was gaslighting her while he did it. Unknowingly inviting a blood junkie ripper vampire into her bed is a million times more dangerous to Elena than unknowingly inviting a married man into her bed. Stefan's secret is like a deadly plague. He put Elena at extreme physical and emotional risk, put it that way. Ivy was an insanely gorgeous repeat of the truth. As Cade kindly pointed out, never meeting her was protecting her. That would be Damon, and the reason I point out his every action in the pilot episode.
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