#stark trek ds9

[geogrewife]

The Jem’Hardar are so interesting. Every time we linger on them it’s like we see the beginnings of a culture forming. Only to have it immediately crushed because all of them are killed.

The Jem’Hardar have so much potential. I hope more is done with their species than just being bad guys.

[jvlianbashir]

kira and odo are ketchup and mustard

[vaguely-concerned]

I feel like there's got to be a hairdresser somewhere on ds9 and they are constantly having the weirdest time anyone's ever had

[tesray]

I love the evil parallel universe in deep space nine. Everyone is different except Garak. He's just like that no matter what

[gossyreblogs]

I’ve been on a slow rewatch of Star Trek DS9; tonight I’m on S2 E23, “Crossover”

And, just. Damn. I’d almost started to think it was just part of Avery Brook’s acting style, but he absolutely can be mobile and expressive—even with subtle expressions—when he wants to be!

Which just… means that Sisko, as a character, isn’t. With very nearly the sole exception being when he’s interacting with Jake. Huh.

[sapphicpoetspost]

“I feel bad for the guy, his wife exploded.” - my authentic reaction to watching the very first episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine with my best bro @singingsawenthusiast

this is my second ever stark trek episode to ever watch. the first episode I watched was the unionization episode.

[evilghostfarmer]

there’s something so human about a Starship crew.

“i may be staring down the barrel of things i’ve never known, and do not understand, but i have you, and that makes it all just a little bit more reachable.”

i am floating in the empty, in the vast, in the dark, but i have these once strangers, this now family. i’d live and die by their word, because they are just, and kind, and moral. they are my friends. and i trust them completely.

[deep-aural-fixation]

Just finished the DS9 novel Enigma Tales. Loved it. The world building was a joy to read. Garak was the right combination of cunning, and a little pathetic (just visit Juilan already, instead of writing letters you'll never send, dammit).

And Pulaski was the best part, for me. I truly loved reading about her misadventures, and it made me want more. I would read a whole series of her calling bullshit wherever she finds it and causing interstellar incidents. Removing Doctor Pulaski from the context of her arc with Data does wonders for anyone's appreciation of her character.

The side characters were all great, and like a true enigma tale, there are a lot of guilty parties in a complex web. I can't help but think Lang was a red herring in the grander scheme, but who knows. Still hate Secrion 31, but like it or not, they're a part of canon. Might as well use them. Still, it's a 5/5 from me.

I've read about 9 DS9 novels and didn't finish two others. For the most part they've been really good to okay. Only a couple I didn't care for at all. But the post-canon stories have been really impressive.

[jimintomystery]

DS9: "The House of Quark"

A drunkard named Kozak gets himself killed in Quark's bar. After Quark claims to have killed the Klingon in self-defense, Kozak's widow Grilka marries him to solidify her control of the estate. Meanwhile, Chief O'Brien struggles to help his wife Keiko after she closes Deep Space Nine's school.

This is debatably a Ferengi episode, since so much of it is about Quark and Rom and their problems are played for laughs. But usually Ferengi episodes are all about problems caused by quirks of Ferengi culture, so the Klingon angle here just hits different. If you're looking for a distinction between a Quark episode and a Ferengi episode starring Quark, that'll have to do.

The gimmick here is that Quark doesn't understand anything about the Klingon rules and rituals that have dragged him into this mess, even after it's explained to him. Pulling that off in 1994 is no small feat. After seven years of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we're used to seeing this world through Lieutenant Worf's eyes, and he made it make sense to us. So making it feel confusing and inconsistent without contradicting the existing lore is pretty impressive. Of course, it helps that the Klingon code of honor is full of loopholes that give cover to Kozak's sinister brother D'Ghor.

The common theme between the A and B plots are that business on the station has dried up because everyone is afraid of a Dominion attack coming through the wormhole. It's an interesting change in direction from the previous two seasons, but there's no follow-up; the station is clearly bustling with activity within a few episodes. The only lasting development is that Keiko's school will never re-open.

Keiko started DS9's school in part to give herself something to do, since the station didn't need a botanist. On TNG she worked in the Enterprise aboretum, but now we're told that she could never be happy doing that same job on DS9. Plan B, then, is for Keiko to join a scientific expedition on Bajor, which is great, but why didn't anyone suggest that in the first place, before she even started the school? It's as if the O'Briens had to wait for the showrunners to get the school business out of their system.

[ineffablecabbage]

People in the comments trying to argue that this is a misrepresentation of Picard... but it's not.

Picard was willing to sit on the bridge of his ship and watch a planet die when he could have stopped it, because Prime Directive.

Anyway, before Sisko, there was Kirk, and there is a reason that Sikso canonically loved Kirk.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE DS9 OH GODDDDD

Jesus Christ it feels like a breath of fresh air after tng I SWEAR.

Like.. Picard is a centrist. That's it. For the most part he does things by the book, and like he cares about people but he stands on "welp I guess they're both bad so.." or "yeah I sympathize with them but I mean prime directive is prime directive so.."

And Sisko has none of it. He still operates within the system, yes, but you can also see how he's having none of that. If the rule is stupid he's not following it, because he's not a mindless soldier. He could and should've stopped O'brien from freeing this slave because of the prime directive but he didn't. He could and should've reported Kira for staying on the moon with this old man but he didn't!! He's still a star fleet officer but he will go out of his way to stop injustice or help people

I love him so muchhhh

[geogrewife]

Garak had no reason to look this good after murdering a bunch of Jem’Hardar.

[jvlianbashir]

What should be the first episode of Ds9 that I show my boyfriend?

He's agreed to watch one with me and I want it to be a really good one but not one that you need huge amounts of context to understand

Any ideas would be appreciated thank you!

hmmmm.... "far beyond the stars" is always one of the gold standards for me as far as ds9 episodes, but context about the show and its themes and characters certainly adds a lot to the experience of watching it so i'm not sure i would show it to him out of the gate.

"duet" was a gripping watch for me the first time i saw it and i think the episode gives you enough context within itself to understand the story without having watched the show in its entirety.

"past tense: parts i & ii" don't really require much ds9 or star trek knowledge at all to understand if i remember correctly and i do enjoy those episodes. they always feel relevant and with it now actually being 2024, especially so.

"whispers" was an episode that fucked me up a little - one of my more favorite "o'brien suffers" episodes - and if i remember, it was pretty self-contained as far as what info you needed to understand it

good luck and i hope he gets inspired to watch more!

[j3rrysblog]

Awesome Star Trek fact #1

Starships run on semen, called spirk in the future. They used to masturbate into receptacles named Jeffries tubes, but in modern Treks, it’s all automated via the holodecks.

[pagingdr-iverson]

Fucking BYE! NOW I can’t UNSEE IT! 😂

It's Sisko Wiggle Wednesday

[sineala]

Are there ANY stony/Star Trek AUs?

Okay. Um. I'm just going to assume this is a legitimate question and not actually a way to express frustration about my progress on the sequel I am writing (I stared at this ask for a while), so I will just conclude that you must have missed the Steve/Tony Star Trek AU I wrote, um, back in 2016:

Straight on till Morning (109848 words) by Sineala Chapters: 6/6 Fandom: Marvel (Comics), Marvel 616, Avengers (Comics) Rating: Explicit  Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply  Relationships: Steve Rogers/Tony Stark  Characters: Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, Carol Danvers, Janet Van Dyne, Hank Pym, Wanda Maximoff, Pietro Maximoff, James "Rhodey" Rhodes, Clint Barton, Donald Blake (Marvel), Jocasta (Marvel)  Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Star Trek Fusion, Action/Adventure, Romance, Hurt/Comfort, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Pining, Angst, Secret Identity, Identity Porn, Sex Pollen, Fuck Or Die, Caves, Sex In A Cave, Technobabble, Happy Ending, Cap_Ironman Big Bang 2016, Community: cap_ironman, Podfic Available  Summary: 

Tony Stark resigned his commission in Starfleet five years ago, after a disastrous away mission, and he swore he'd never go back. He just wants to be left alone to build warp engines in peace. But the universe has more in store for him than that, as he discovers when Admiral Fury comes to him with an offer he could never have expected and cannot possibly refuse: first officer and chief engineer aboard the all-new USS Avenger, a starship of Tony's own design. What's more, the Avenger's captain is Steve Rogers, hero of the Earth-Romulan War. Believed dead for over a century, Steve is miraculously alive... and very, very attractive. 

But nothing is ever easy for Tony. As he wrestles with his secret desire for his new captain and his not-so-dormant fears, another mission starts to go wrong, and Tony becomes aware that Steve has secrets of his own -- and the truth could change everything.

So, yeah, if you actually haven't read that one, that'll keep you busy for a while. It's a Trek fusion with comics Steve/Tony, set in the era of the later TOS movies. (This is important so that you can picture the correct uniforms, and also because it actually matters that the events of Star Trek II, III, and IV have happened.) It was a Big Bang fic, so it's got some great art by Ran and Phoenix -- embedded in the story -- and also M_Samro made a really amazing podfic of it, if you like podfics.

For a charity auction in 2017, I promised I would write a sequel, and I plotted the whole thing out and started writing this extremely epic sequel, which was unfortunately, about a plague threatening the galaxy, and I got about 120,000 words in and then 2020 happened and I decided I needed to not be writing it right now. So it went on an extended hiatus.

But the good news is that I've actually gotten back to it! I picked it up again last month and I've put 40,000 more words in it since then and at this exact moment I am currently working on the last scene of Chapter 4 (out of six total)! I swear it is happening! I've been putting in about a thousand words a day for the past month! It is really happening this time! The sequel is coming! I promise! I know it has been years but it's happening!

See? It's happening! (I would include a screencap of the part that is happening, but all of Chapter 4 is pretty spoilery.)

So that will exist! Someday! I mean that!

And if you're asking about Steve/Tony Star Trek AUs by people other than me, there are some! If you filter the AU - Star Trek Fusion tag by Steve/Tony, there are 25 matches. Several of them are related to my fic (remixes, art) but there is some stuff that isn't my fault! I haven't read a lot of them because I was trying not to read things that seemed like they might be similar to mine while I was plotting my series here, and also I have never finished watching DS9, so I skipped the DS9 ones.

Under Stars by vulcanscully: A fun fusion that I thought was interesting because Steve is an ensign and that's not how this usually goes.

Discovery of the Century by DepressingGreenie: More 616 in flavor than a lot of the Trek AUs, this is basically Finding Steve In The Ice but Make It Star Trek. As far as I am concerned, Finding Steve In The Ice is great every time.

and so we rebuild by raeldaza: I'm probably biased because this one was inspired by my fic, but I also really enjoyed this one for not being how these things usually go. A lot of Trek AUs in many fandoms are written through a TOS/AOS kind of lens and will often do a Kirk/Spock thing and make one of them a Vulcan or half-Vulcan. In this one that's Tony, but also he's a terrible Vulcan! He's found a new way to disappoint his father!

Stellar Love Affairs by AvengersNewB: I honestly had never imagined a Star Trek fusion that was also A/B/O but I think it really works here! It's like bringing pon farr full circle.

Xenophilia by Captain_Panda: Captain_Panda has several Trek AUs but I am reccing this one because it's the longest. And also the whumpiest. Everyone loves some good away-mission whump!

So there you go! Live long and prosper! I promise I am still writing this Star Trek AU sequel!

[anotheruserwithnoname]

Star Trek SNW finally settles decades-old canon issues (spoiler commentary for S02E03)

(Image credit: Startrek.com)

I say spoiler right in the headline, and I mean it. Read no further if you have yet to see Star Trek: Strange New World’s latest episode, Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. (The image above is a publicity image and is also in the trailer, so it’s not really a spoiler.)

The TL;DR is: one single line of dialogue fixed nearly 30 years of canon issues. I am not exaggerating. More under the break. And this will be a long one:

To “cross the streams” a moment, it is undeniable canon (not shipping wishful thinking) that not only did the Eleventh Doctor in Doctor Who have feelings for Clara Oswald, he even considered her not his companion, but his girlfriend. That was made undeniable canon in a couple lines in “Deep Breath” when the Twelfth Doctor said “Clara, I’m not your boyfriend,” Clara replied, “I never thought you were.” and Twelve said “I never said it was your mistake.” That was in stark fact. One line of canon dialogue confirmed what many speculated and the show hinted at. This is separate from what came after, any retcons later writers did, and all that. 

Well, one line of dialogue from a guest character in last night’s episode of Strange New Worlds put into canon something I and many others have felt not only about SNW, but the current breed of Trek shows and indeed there were signs of this going back to both Star Trek DS9 and Star Trek Voyager in the 1990s.

The Romulan time agent, Sera, played by Adelaide Kane who some may remember from playing Mary Queen of Scots in Reign, states that the Eugenics war involving Khan was supposed to happen in 1992, but was delayed 30 years due to temporal wars and other interference from the future. (To be precise she’s likely referring to Khan’s birth since he was in his 30s or 40s by the 1990s, the time TOS established the Eugenics Wars took place; here he’s a kid - possibly even a Canadian kid!  The war itself is still some years away.)

That explains a lot. Why since DS9 the Eugenics Wars were redated to the mid-21st century. Why SNW’s pilot episode last year confirmed the Eugenics Wars were part of WW3, not a separate conflict.  Why the Voyager episode where they go back to Earth on 1996 featured no mention of the Eugenics Wars. Why Kirk and everyone else already knows the name Noonien-Singh (even if La’an hadn’t introduced herself by name to “Prime” Kirk at the end, he would have seen her testimony about being Khan’s descendant at Una’s trial. There is no way in this timeline that Kirk, Spock or anyone else would not recognize Khan’s name instantly when the events of Space Seed happen. Heck, even the fact the SNW Enterprise doesn’t match up with the 1960s designs that were also featured in TNG, DS9 and Star Trek: Enterprise. Or even stuff like people like Uhura knowing who T’Pring was years before they were supposedly first introduced to her in “Amok Time”. It even gives wiggle room for the fact this time-travel episode actually breaks canon with the time-travel-based episodes of Picard Season 2! (Laris would have known about Sera and stopped her, right? Sean at TrekCulture had a gripe about this in his Youtube review)

Sera basically admitted that because of people farting around with time and the temporal wars (recall that it was strongly implied in Enterprise that the Romulans were involved if not responsible for that) that the timeline has been changed. 

It can’t be denied anymore and it’s such a liberating thing. Now, SNW is free to truly tell reimagined stories (like the retelling of Balance of Terror last season, albeit that was another alternate timeline), to make T’Pring a vital character and build her, to accelerate the Spock-Chapel romance that was only hinted at in TOS. To truly let Paul Wesley develop his own version of Kirk, not to mention Ethan Peck’s Spock and whoever next plays McCoy (you know they will bring him in eventually and if SNW avoids the fate of Prodigy and lasts a few years, they’re going to have to start getting lined up for a new TOS-era series). Hell, the door is now open for Kirk and La’an to establish a “prime-era” romance - imagine a retelling of Space Seed with La’an in the picture (or at least Kirk remembering her).

This will be a hot take for some. But my rebuttal comes from Doctor Who: “Time can be rewritten.” Finally, nearly 30 years after what was thought to be an erroneous dating of the Eugenics Wars in a throwaway line in an episode of DS9 (I believe the producers even said it was a goof back then), and 22 years of people griping about how the prequel series were not lining up with what came before, either esthetically or storyline-wise (Enterprise, Discovery, SNW, and Picard S2 to a degree), we have a firm, canonical explanation. People will still gripe about politics, general quality, casting, whatever, of shows - that’s a separate argument - but at least in terms of canon, this has changed everything. In a good way.

I only wish they hadn’t killed off Sera. I got very strong Sela vibes from her (Sela/Sera? Coincidence?) and I would have liked to see her become a recurring nemesis. Then again, as I just said, time can be rewritten.