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crim-bat · 1 day ago
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Star Wars Rant: The Jedi Dogma Lie You Fell For
The older I get and the more of a movie centric perspective I take in star wars (books and comics and games are good, but they either tell stories that aren't relevant or fill in the gaps), the more I've come to believe that the writers lacked the media literacy as much as the fans in regards to how dogmatic the jedi actually were
Palpatine said the order had a narrow and dogmatic view of the force once and the fanbase and writers immediately went "YEAH HE WAS RIGHT" without understanding what was going on and 20 years of telephone later it's become accepted as fact so much that it's permanently poisoned the well.
In the prequel trilogy list of things "explaining" jedi dogma, we have...
The jedi did not want to train Anakin as he was a ball of Trauma. This is fair when your magic system runs on being able to not need let your emotions control you. Anakin needed help, not jedi training.
The jedi not believing Qui Gon when he said there was a sith afoot. The sith have been gone for a thousand years, or so they think. That, enough, is reason to not be sure about it. In the EU/Legends, Dark Jedi cropped up every couple of years so it could have easily been one of those instead. One of them was Qui's former student. AND the jedi didn't just say "that's not a problem, ignore it". They very pointedly say to go investigate the problem. And Qui is good enough at his job that they kept him on the case
The jedi don't allow marriage. It's a monastic order and they are free to leave. There is literally no penalty for just bouncing as long as you don't burn the bridges yourself
In AOTC, we see Obi Wan being especially down on Anakin the whole movie and the other jedi in the scenes, Mace and Yoda, express concern and try to defend Anakin from his own master. Genuinely, Obi Wan is the bigger problem here than any other jedi. He's my favorite, but he's an asshole in AOTC
On Dooku, Mace doesn't think Dooku would do assassination because that is, at that time, super out of how the jedi operate. Dooku was a jedi so it should not have been in his character.
In Revenge of the Sith, Anakin goes to Yoda for advise about Padme but is vague as fuck so he gets vague jedi advise about detaching yourself from the situation and being happy they're going to jedi heaven. He Cannot Give Better Advise because Anakin is being Anakin.
Same movie, Mace says he doesn't trust Anakin with spying on Palpatine because he doesn't think he can handle it. And Anakin is only treated like a shitheal in the film when he acts like one. Yes, there's the undercurrent of him trying to save Padme but the movie doesn't at all explain that he's trying to get into the archives. No one can help him because he's not letting them.
Same movie, Palpatine points out the Dogmatic and Narrow view of the jedi according to the force.
There is really no part of the prequels that doesn't make sense and doesn't exonerate the "dogma" of the jedi in some way unless you're looking at what writers did after the fact.
Do the jedi have issues within the films?
Yes
Are they too beholden to the state?
Probably
But those are different issues and the official writers and the fans have both permanently poisoned the well because they took the big bad of 9 films at face value without criticism
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padmeanddorme · 3 months ago
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I’m watching the Zygerria arc rn and it’s making me so angry 😒
It’s not Anakin, it’s an imposter. Like come on, this man would not flirt with anyone but Padmé (she’s literally the love of his life he would not dis her like that), he can’t flirt that well in the first place, and even if he’d flirt for the sake of a mission- he would NEVER flirt with a SLAVER. And like joking about the role of master coming easily to you???? I mean I know people use humour to cope with their pain but the way he says that is so Chad-like and I’m not here for it.
Anyway if you have a different opinion, I respect that!
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illustratingari · 8 months ago
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STAR WARS RANT
Subject: REPRESENTATION ❤️
As an East Asian person, it is so refreshing to finally see an Asian Jedi in a leading role. How I’ve WAITED for this moment. Star Wars has taken loads of inspiration from Asian culture so it’s really nice to see actual Asian people in the franchise recently like Lee Jung Jae, Ming Na Wen, Paul Sun-Hyung Lee and Natasha Liu Bordizzo.
The Acolyte features a very diverse cast and it’s so wonderful to see people from different communities being represented and celebrated in such a huge franchise like Star Wars.
Also, I’m very much enjoying the show right now. It’s original, it’s expansive and it’s thought provoking. We’re finally getting an original tale, in an era which we’ve never seen before that is giving us a “why-dun it?” mystery. And the fan boys are mad about it??? Like what???
Lee Jung Jae is a legendary actor and I’m so glad he’s apart of Star Wars. This man has made me shed tears as Master Sol and I’m looking forward to the rest of the Acolyte series.
My uncle made a comment about how he can finally cosplay as an Asian Jedi cause he looks like Sol! Representation doesn’t stop at children, it extends to older adults as well.
In conclusion: to be represented in media, means you exist.
Representation allows us to see ourselves as heroes, villains and everything in between. Without representation, how could we ever dream of being more?
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darth-prequelist · 6 months ago
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The acolyte is cancelled?!?
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Excuse my french, but WTF. Honestly.
I suppose the whiny idiots on the internet won. Why can we not have nice things? Why can't you just let people enjoy a show?
It felt like Star Wars to me. And we rarely get any Sith shit at all and once we've got it...Boom its gone. Evil twin trope and seduction to the dark side (very literally)? Amazing. Wonderful fight scenes, compelling characters. I must say I was so invested in Sol and Osha's relationship, the twins, and Qimir and Osha's.
We were going to have Plagueis (maybe?)! And now he's gone. Osha's lightsaber turned crimson??? And we're simply left with THAT! No conclusion. NO NOTHING!
And the author, Headland, had a plan. A whole overarching storyline and now we're left with one season and more than a handful of unanswered questions.
This is why we can't have nice things. Because of those pesky whiny, loud fools on the internet. It disgusts me that they're cheering over the fact that its cancelled. If you don't want to watch it, don't. Let everyone else enjoy it who does want to watch it.
Don't shit on what other people like. Its disrespectful, its immature and its unbelievably uncool.
I'll admit it. I love everything Star Wars. Sequels and all. Flaws and all. The Acolyte had its flaws but even the Original Trilogy had its own. Example: Luke became attached to Obi-Wan within a day and become a Jedi within a few days. The end result: no one cares. But the second its a new show, everyone cares about every little mistake.
And I was rather excited to explore a world set in the High Republic. Now its gone. GONE GONE GONE! We've only seen it through books and through other media. I cannot tell you, I followed this show the second it was mentioned and announced. And the fact that its ending like this is so unbelievably frustrating.
Season 1 was for sure just a setup and I don't mind that but now that's its cancelled. Just...why. The children storyline was a bit annoying and there was for sure more to the story. Why did Torbin kill himself? There had to be more. There was so much guilt and I don't believe that's it. Something to be explored in Season 2 which will never happen.
One last thing. For the folks that like guys, we've lost Qimir. Right when Star Wars is beginning to consider people who like men, they pull it right out from under us. We had Leia in a bikini in the Originals which I could care less about. Plenty of Padme in the Prequels. A bit of Kylo Ren. And now, Qimir. The pinnacle of perfection, those arms were just...hot. I'll admit it.
And now because of the haters, there will be no more. No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans. I'm going to end this rant now before it gets far too long. All in all: I can't believe it.
I truly wish I could do anything. Something to bring it back.
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foundfamilynonsense · 1 year ago
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I’m gonna just throw this out before it happens:
Even if Sabine somehow “unlocks” the force through hard work, the Jedi were STILL RIGHT to only recruit force sensitive children.
There has only been one episode of Sabine learning to be a jedi so far. Look at how terrible of a time she’s having. She’s making zero progress, and we know she spent a long time with Ahsoka before quitting because she was making no process.
Why is she putting herself through all this grief with no reward? No idea. That’s another post.
But the point is Ahsoka isn’t even teaching Sabine what younglings were usually taught. She’s not trying to get Sabine to deflect blaster shots (bc she’d never be able to) and she’s not trying to teach Sabine how to move things with her mind (bc she’d never be able to). It’s just lightsaber lessons. Something Kanan taught Sabine already just as a Mandalorian wielding the dark saber. Sabine would be doing so much worse if she was in a normal youngling group.
Sabine has only gotten this far because she is a natural warrior. And she still already quit once. Ahsoka’s really not helping at all. She’s just telling Sabine to “feel it”
And sure! The other jedi masters did that. But they did that knowing that their students actually had a natural ability to feel the force!! Their students knew what they were trying to feel.
For someone who went through the public school system with dyslexia I honestly felt so frustrated and bad for Sabine last episode. Ahsoka and Huyang are telling her to do things she just has no ability to do. At least Huyang is being honest with her about why.
There is nothing more frustrating when you’re struggling and someone tells you to just. Do it better. Huyang and Ahsoka are not giving her any real instruction. Bc there is no instruction. There is no shortcut like there was with reading.
But unlike me and reading, Sabine does not have to be a jedi. She does not have to learn how to use the force. So why is Ahsoka putting her through this? Why is she putting herself through this?
Imagine if the Jedi order did that with little kids? Kids who may not have the option to quit like Sabine did? That would so so terrible for them. It’s already terrible for Sabine. How long did Sabine try the first time around? How terrible did it get, not making any improvement for so long, before she quit the first time? She doesn’t have to be a jedi. If you’re not force sensitive there’s no reason to force it. (Hehe, get it? Force it?)
If Ahsoka wanted a padawan she should have found someone force sensitive and trained them. Honestly this whole thing feels like a cruel joke on Sabine: someone who works hard and is naturally talented at many other things.
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elena-loves-starwars · 10 months ago
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RANT WARNING
I kind of feel like everyone is like "I love crosshair now" or "ever since the outpost I've liked crosshair" or "crosshair is finally a good character." And thats so cool! I'm so happy that more people like him now. But... who else has loved crosshair from episode one?
Crosshair has been my favorite member of the bad batch since the very beginning. I was like something is up with this guy and I'm not resting until I find out more. He's such a good character. The whole plot line about how he couldn't help turning on his brothers because of the chip broke my heart. Then he had his chip removed but he stayed with the empire because "loyalty meant something to me," which also broke my heart. He never had a choice. He loved his brothers, but he was loyal. And then he finally turned on the empire because they weren't loyal to him and not only did that break my heart, it also broke him. Through it all, he still loved his brothers. The whole time. And his sister, I think, though he didn't really know it. Yes, he had his inhibiter chip removed. But he never had a choice. Not really.
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wookieefan · 6 months ago
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This is a bad angle it makes Harrison look really wide. Carrie looks like she about to fall backwards and the only support she has is holding Harrison's hand. Mark's face expression looks like a rat and the way he's holding his blaster lol. You can't even see Chewie's face kinda scary.
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river-from-alderaan · 10 months ago
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Headcanon: Leia has curly hair, she just doesn't know it.
It sounds dumb, but it does happen. People will think they just have really frizzy, hard to tame hair, only to find out years down the line that they've been taking care of it wrong.
The one time we see Leia with her hair down, in Endor, she has some soft waves, right? Now, these waves do not look like natural hair texture, but rather what straight hair typically looks like after being braided for several hours. Which makes sense. Leia's hair is always braided.
But what if it's not that? What if that's actually the look of very neglected natural curls? Is it not in character for Leia Organa, the girl who joined a rebellion at 16, who was a senator by 19, who was physically and mentally tortured and didn't even get to complain, who lost her family and everything she knew and immediately supressed her feelings because there was still a battle ahead, who still worried about the loss of a boy she'd just met, who constantly refused to let herself be loved, to neglect not only her human and emotional needs, but also her very body?
Yes, you could argue that she still dedicates the time to put up these fancy hairdos to begin with, but I'd argue back that those she's been doing since very little. They remind her of home — of course she'd want to continue doing them, especially now. They're all she has left of it.
How would Leia know how to take care of curls? Both Bail and Breha have pin straight hair.
In my own personal headcanon, Leia realizes in her mid twenties that her hair needs a different type of care and starts giving it it. In time, it becomes bright, soft and full of life.
And when she finds out through Obi-Wan that Padmé had curls as well, she starts to observe hers more. She's always used her hair as a way of honoring the home and family she had, but now she sees it too shows her ties with the home and family she could've had.
She still does her signature hairstyles. But she also lets it down, now.
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clqoo · 19 days ago
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star wars characters as music but it’s my music taste bc im obsessed w equating characters & music pt.3
padme “I can fix him” amidala :) prev |
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hear me out it makes sense ok
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amandamadeathing · 9 months ago
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I got the Black Series Tech. My thoughts about the action figure are below the cut, as well as the same rant I've been commenting and re-blogging are below the cut, if anyone cares.
I want Crosshair to join his Chaos Twin on adventures, but all that's available is at a reasonable price is in Imperial armor.
He looks confused or annoyed (did he get a leak of the season 3 script?). His hairline is even further receded. His features look more like Jango's than the cartoon character, but he is further white-washed. 🙄 He was not bank-breakingly exponsive, not as cheap as that loose die-cast K2-SO up there. I am tempted to double his cost to buy a 3D printed head off Etsy to give him goggles and darker skin, since he's never seen without them in the show. Why did this and the helmet-less Funko have him without goggles? (More season 3 foreshadowing).
Disney didn't care about The Clone Wars or The Bad Batch. I firmly believe the creators thought they'd get 4 seasons of 30 minute episodes, which would have neatly resolved things at a comfortable pace. It's not Disney's full IP, unlike Rebels- The Mandalorian and sequels. And it doesn't have the tested legacy of the Original Trilogy. It's animated, which everyone knows is not the very serious storytelling medium live action is (Ahsoka is a very serious show) . Part of my evidence is how many Black Seies Ahsokas and Reys are there? Why can't I meet Wrecker or Rex in SWGE?
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kid-az · 1 year ago
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Star Wars AU/alternate timeline where Jakku isn’t Just Tatooine 2 but has a different aesthetic to it, aka Scavenger-punk where the native cultures all emphasize the scavenging and recycling of the wrecks of spaceships and vehicles from various wars and making use of them in their daily life, kinda like how Rey resided inside an At-At.
The planet being utterly filled with the wrecks of Imperial, Rebel, Clone Wars, and even older ships, and half of the inhabitants of Jakku are sapient droids (Many being CIS battle droids who live peacefully with the residents) who coexist equally and alongside the organic inhabitants.
Not only do sapient organics and droids benefit from these wrecks but the wildlife does too. Water from coolant systems and waste alike, food supplies and shade provided by these ships creating oasis’s filled with bountiful life and plants, the warships that were once utilized to kill instead nourishing new life on the planet.
While definitely cold in exterior and distrustful of outsiders, (Since these outsiders were usually criminal groups or corporations wanting to exploit the resources of Jakku) Jakku’s people emphasized cooperation and supporting one-another in their daily life and struggles.
The galaxy may have treated them as nobodies and their planet as a dumping ground for trash, but for the people of Jakku their planet was a home that had everything they needed, a world that was theirs to be free, to run amok the so-called “useless” wrecks and make something new and beautiful out of them.
Sorry for not sounding normal I just think Jakku had potential to not be a discount Tatooine and instead be a unique planet with its own identity and culture emphasizing cooperation and the recycling of old technology and treas to make tools and works of beauty, where organics and droids lived together in harmony.
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kyber-collector · 2 years ago
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I’m very curious about the Bad Batch’s relationship with the regs. How did all the animosity start? We see regs insulting them and acting generally disdainful towards them in the mess hall on Kamino, but this seems odd to me. Clones, generally, value individuality and brotherhood. Differences are what make them unique, and they embrace those differences with alterations to their appearances and armor. We also see that many regs cared about 99, a “defective” clone just like the members of the Bad Batch. So why is there hostility towards them (apparently) for being different?
The Bad Batch also holds clear resentment towards the regs. They generally seem to believe that their genetic alterations and enhanced abilities make them better than the typical clone, with Crosshair even blatantly saying that they’re superior to the regs and implying the regs are expendable. Did they develop this attitude because the regs were bullying them, as a kind of defense mechanism? Or did the regs start to resent them and act hostile towards them because of their superiority complex? I’m very curious which came first, who “started” this feud. I hope we get more information on this in the future, possibly in the next season or in the upcoming issue of Hyperspace Stories.
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staycalmandhugaclone · 1 year ago
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Star Wars Rant - Take 2!
Guys. Guys, I’m sorry. I had a thought on the way to work today… and now I’m going to force it upon all of you, too, so that at least I won’t suffer alone.
Kaminoans do not value emotion. They value perfection. In fact, the social demand for genetic perfection is what led them to cloning and thus gave us our lovely copy/ paste cornucopia of delicious potential for OCs, wartime angst, and brotherly shenanigans. We know each clone ended up developing a unique personality even as cadets, but imagine the first batches. They didn’t have older clones to look up to, to learn that becoming their own person was okay. They had asshole mercenaries, the legendary original source for their DNA, and, most abundantly, the Kaminoans to raise them.
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Children learn through mimicry. They see their guardians interact with the world, and that’s the initial outline for who they become. If they spent most of their time around the Kaminoans, that means they would likely view emotions as a detriment, with some interplay offsetting that from Jango and the mercs.
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Fast-forward a couple generations to the discovery and implementation of said clones, during which time the Kaminoans have likely done away with anyone who strayed too far from their ideal soldier, furthering the general understanding that emotions are dangerous and something to be stifled. Then, suddenly, here are these Jedi Generals who fall all over the emotional spectrum! Shaak Ti shows them compassion. Yoda shows them acceptance (and chaos, let’s be real). Anakin shows them fun (also chaos. So much chaos). Obi Wan, the biggest flirt in the damn galaxy, just completely upends whatever textbook definition of romance may have been briefly taught to “prepare” them as cadets.
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What I’m really getting at, though, is that clones were brought up without love. They were created by a race that pretty much bred out any tendency toward affection, trained by a man who regarded them as lesser copies of himself, and *decommissioned* if they displayed too much independence (I know there are caveats to this, such as Alpha-17 and the CCs, but they had much less patience for the CTs). And here are these Jedi who love in such a blindingly open and overwhelming way. How do they cope with that? How do they not become insanely loyal to these kind, generous beings that don’t treat them like numbers for the first time in their lives??
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And then there’s the other side: the squads that have the misfortune of being paired with Jedi less prone to  that innate goodness, the squads trapped with Krell and Ki-Adi-Mundi. They never get the chance to feel valued as anything other than a tool. They may have heard the word “love” but would never be allowed to experience it, platonic or otherwise…
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I don’t have any grand ending thoughts here beyond the absolute tragedy that those men suffered, but I will say, it does tempt me with some utterly angsty and beautiful thoughts for emotionally crippled clone OCs and emotionally traumatized reader OCs accidentally find each other through various whumpee ways… be a shame if someone was inspired by this and tagged me in whatever may or may no come of it...
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themistymountainscold · 2 years ago
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i don't know about you guys but i'm mad hexx and veetch were faceless. and don't give me the "they're clones we know what they look like" alright i know that. but they just... died. it didn't mean anything for anyone.
but i guess thats the point isn't it.
the clones aren't anything anymore. nothing to the empire, and barely anything to themselves. their continues deaths are for nothing. like for fucks sake they died protecting fucking stormtrooper armour.
thats how pathetic the empire is.
and how nolan fucking stood and watched as mayday died, ignoring crosshair's plea to get him help.
and how that scene contradicts "we're clones sir, we're mean't to be expendable." "not to me" scene.
the clones mean nothing and is pisses me off.
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anakinlives · 10 months ago
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sitting here thinking that so many factors could have prevented anis fall
- saving his mom
- never meeting padmae
- quigon not dying
- Jedi council be a lil more understanding and humble
- ik damn well anis emotions betrayed him 9/10 times there’s no way the Jedi didn’t know about him and padmae, maybe not that they were married but that something was up
- STOP JUST ASSUMING HES GONNA FIGURE IT OUT AND DO THE RIGHT THING PLZ GUIDE HIM HES STUPID, GETTING HIS EGO BLOWN UP AND EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE
- idk maybe finding out palps was evil A LOT SOONER
- not letting ani get close to palps, especially at a young age like tf . Actually like not allow palps to access ani like ???
- stop treating him like an outsider like yk half of this was a self fulfilling prophecy. They saw danger/darkness in his future and idk instead of accepting him and understanding he’s a special case. They just aided his fall. Especially since they say the future is always in motion
- ultimately ofc ani making better choices and not thinking it was too late when he made bad ones bc he still had multiple chances to do the right thing and did not :(
-also obi maybe could have tried talking with ani a bit more during mustafar. I saw this what if video & i think it could have worked.
I truly believe he was still able to comeback up until he was left to die. Yes he was never 100% dark bc he came back to the light at the end but Vader really did a lot of bad things and it still breaks my heart to see what Anakin became. Yes now he’s a force ghost helping others again but I wish we had gotten FULL POTENTIAL ANAKIN not Vader ( still would be cool to see but Vader and ani looking the same would probably make me no bueno) .
Ofc sw would be different and things happened to fit the story and it did an amazing job. I just want happy ending for my prequel babes 🙂‍↕️
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roguestarr · 6 months ago
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You know what's been missing from Star Wars television and movies? Romance!! I'm hardly shipping anything! Where are the good canon ships??? We had Han and Leia, Anakin and Padmé, Obi-Wan and Satine, Kanan and Hera! There's no romance in Star Wars anymore except a little bit in The Last Jedi, but where are the couples???
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