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moontheoretist · 2 years ago
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Red Siths and Yoda’s race
When I started watching Mandalorian I was already pretty deep into SWTOR and I read a bit too many articles on Wookiepedia about the times even farther in the past than The Old Republic.
That knowledge obviously had later went into use when I saw Grogu and started thinking about the race Yoda, Yaddle and Grogu come from. The natural conclusion to which I came is that they must be an ancient species as there are not many of them in the Movie Era, and they have naturally very long lifespan (which the existence of Grogu put into perspective if he is 50yo, and he is still considered a toddler and can't yet speak, only able to communicate telepathically via the Force with other force users - which may imply that Yoda species is only able to communicate this way when young and at the same time establish them as majorly force-sensitive species just like Red Siths). Their natural strength in the Force was then established by the fact that all 3 representatives were forcesensitive and the fact that Yoda's midichlorian count was supposedly the highest until Anakin - artificialy made child - came into the picture and kicked him off his pedestal when it comes to the count alone.
It's also very interesting that Yoda, Yaddle and Grogu are all more prone to be drawn to the Light Side, though Grogu showed some signs of being tempted, but in this case even Yoda once said that he felt the pull of the Dark Side, so it's probably just a normal thing. Still, the preference for the Light may imply that they are one of the few races in the SW lore that are born attuned to the specific Side of the Force. Which brings me all the way back to the Red Siths and their natural affiliation to the Dark Side, because they are born attuned to it.
Attunement doesn't mean you can't use the other side obviously, but it definitely affects how you view the side you are attuned to - it’s natural for you to view one rather than the other as normal as it's part of you, your whole genome and your whole species. It also may imply some way of natural resistance to the negative effects of the Force like Dark Side corruption. I barely ever saw any Red Sith that could be considered "fallen" by the Jedi standards. Hell, we mostly met former Jedi who had "fallen", which brings me to the conclusion that if you are born attuned to the Dark Side, there must be some benefit to it. Siths also don't tend to shut down their emotions, which greatly influences their relation to the Dark Side, as bottled up emotions and unresolved traumas can affect the person in such a way that they will fall into the Dark Side with no control over it. Lana Beniko is my favorite example of a Sith to give here, because she is simply pragmatic, not evil. She considers killing in some situations just more beneficial than not. She is reasonable, she doesn't cackle like fallen Jedi, and she in general can be seen as sane and even caring.
Anyway, what brought me here is the idea that Red Siths are scarce or nonexistent in the Movie Era, which is understandable considering that they were 1% of the Empire's population already during The Old Republic Era. Still, they may have been aware of the existence of the species that Yoda is from, due to both being ancient species attuned to the Force. Maybe even both of them were the first species to study the Force on tython when those weird high-tech pyramids descended upon their worlds and then took them straight there?
Tenebrae's birth on Medriaas also implies that Red Siths existed not only on ancient Korriban, but also on different planets like Medriaas and Ziost that establishes their access to space travel as far as 5000BBY or farther. That means that knowing Yoda's species personally may have been very easy for them, especially if they met during some wars. I just like to think that if our Pureblood Siths ever met someone from Yoda’s species, they would be like “oh, it’s you!”
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viscanpikamine · 5 months ago
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THEYRE DONE!! young jango got his brand new beskar'gam, ready to fight for his new buir
alt caption "hey guys look at this stray i found lol i'm gonna adopt him, he can shoot"
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shellshooked · 11 months ago
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there’s enough brainrot abt this au to write like a book series so I thought i would finally introduce it properly,, so here goes NOTHING !!
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jedi knight (botw) zelda conversating with padawan ahsoka tano strolling through the jedi temple on coruscant
there’s a firm reason the jedi council never allow commander link (botw) and general anakin skywalker on the same missions during the clone wars
general zelda and link (tp) of the rebel cell referred to as the twilight squadron debriefing their next attack towards the empire
jedi padawan link (ww) and his pirate best friend tetra have no idea what they’re about to face up against when his clone captain suddenly aims his blaster in their direction, claiming to execute the unknown directive of order 66..
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hickeygender · 11 months ago
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sorry, he's allergic to SOUP? no wonder he thinks he's destined for infinite sadness, i'd believe that too if my immune system thwarted me from slurpin down a nice hearty bowl of soup 😭
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marmota-b · 8 months ago
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Glitch IS meant to be Force sensitive, here's why
Clone Trooper Glitch Who Is Definitely Force Sensitive.
As far as I can tell, everyone has fallen in love with that idea and everyone is now saying "Glitch is Force sensitive and you can't convince me otherwise."
Listen, what if I can actually convince you he is, with literary analysis?
I don't think I've ever seen this particular angle discussed (not that I have looked too hard, but no one ever brings it up when talking about Glitch). Everyone just loves the idea that he's Force sensitive because it's a lovely / exciting idea. And, okay, it's never stated outright in the source material, so there's some room for doubt. (And it was obviously intentionally left open-ended.)
BUT
I think the subtext, for those who know what it is, is so thick it might as well be an open admission of authorial intent. You see, Glitch's comic, Defenders of the Lost Temple, is drawing heavily on the Knights of the Old Republic comics in its lore. The Gauntlet they're sent to recover comes from that series. The moon where it resides is named after one of the characters from the series and likely is the moon he moved to at the end of his arc, and there's a statue of him there. There are all these deliberate, easily proven links to the series.
And there's also the less direct but still present parallel of questioning whether Jedi should be fighting in a war at all - Knights of the Old Republic (comics) takes place at the beginning of the Mandalorian Wars when some Jedi went to fight and others argued that wasn't their place, and some people get caught in the conflict without ever wanting to. That's a more dubious connection, and may not have been deliberate, but...
That is - the writer knew what he was doing here, in relation to previously published material.
The main protagonist of that series is Zayne Carrick.
Zayne is a sort of off-beat Jedi (well, almost-Jedi). He is just about Force sensitive enough to be admitted to the Jedi Order. He has "a special relationship with the Force." His special relationship with the Force mainly manifests in him being very clumsy and having the worst sort of luck. No one really thinks he'll make it as a Jedi. His own fellow padawan friends don't think he'll make it as a Jedi. But he's so good and caring and trying. And in the long run, he learns to work with his bad luck, and it turns out it's not so much a bad luck as the Force working... as a sort of swing, around him, with a balance of good and bad events. Things rarely work out as expected, but he learns to expect the unexpected. And once he does, and learns to ride the waves instead of trying to swim against the current, it actually works mainly in the heroes' favour.
Does that remind you of anyone?
Yep.
I'm pretty sure Glitch is a deliberate callback to Zayne Carrick and his special relationship with the Force.
I don't know if he started out that way from the start, or if the idea of "what if a clone was Force sensitive" came first and this theme just slotted into place later (honestly, the latter is probably likelier). But it's undeniably there; with all the other references to KOTOR, it's unlikely the author would have missed the main protagonist's character arc re: Force sensitivity.
Glitch has a special relationship with the Force exactly like Zayne's. He just has, unlike Zayne, also the bad luck of never having been tested for Force sensitivity. (This is all EU/Legends. Don't expect New Canon to stick to any of the above.)
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kcrabb88 · 6 months ago
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Sitting here at the end of my work day thinking about how much I love Quinlan Vos and how fucken cool he is. Also thinking about how it is a crime that QuinObi is not a bigger ship because they are truly! Iconic together! I heard "Quinlan was here?" in OWK and instantly wanted to know EVERYTHING. They know each other so well and I'm just. Upset about it.
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dathomirdumpsterfire · 4 months ago
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^ Darth Maul 002 (2017) drawn by Luke Ross & Nolan Woodard.
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adrian-shepard · 10 months ago
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You know how in a new hope there's a Y-wing that survives the death star i now head cannon that it's omega flying it
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cjvarte · 10 months ago
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Alien Factoids! (Legends)
Source: "Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic 6.7" is the seventh issue of the sixth volume of Star Wars Comic UK, published by Titan Magazines and released on April 1, 2010.
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casp1an-sea · 14 days ago
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So we’re learning family vocabulary in French so I decided to do an overly detailed list of Hux’s entire family tree if he was married to Kylo. In French to practice. I guess I’ll post the English translation here cause what else am I gonna do with it? It does include Han’s legends background bc that’s just canon to me. And I made Rey Kylo’s cousin,
anyway here it is- (I’ll put the French under the English but there are prob mistakes, if you speak French and want to correct me feel free)
Hux is from Arkanis 
His father is Brendol Hux 
His mother doesn’t have a name 
He is a bastard child 
His step-mother is Maratelle Hux, Brendol’s wife 
He does not have any brothers or sisters
But Hux has a cat
The name of the cat is Millicent 
Hux’s husband is Kylo Ren (or Ben Solo)
Hux’s mother in-law is Leia Organa Solo
Hux’s father in-law is Han Solo
Kylo has an unnamed half sibling
therefore they are Hux’s half sibling
Kylo is the nephew of Luke Skywalker 
Therefore he is the uncle of Hux by marriage 
Rey is the adopted cousin of Kylo, 
Therefore she is the cousin of Hux by marriage 
Anakin Skywalker (or Darth Vader) and Padmé Amidala are Kylo’s Grandparents (they are his mom’s parents) and Jaina and Jonash solo are also (they are his dad’s parents) 
Therefore, they are the grandparents of Hux by marriage 
Bail Prestor Organa and Brenda Organa are the adoptive parents of Leia 
So they are the grand-parents of Kylo, 
Therefore they are the grand-parents of Hux by marriage 
Thrackan Sal-Solo, and Niano Organa are the first cousins once removed of Kylo, 
Therefore they are the cousins Hux by marriage 
(Niano is not blood related) 
Threkin Horm is the half-first cousin once removed of Kylo, 
Therefore he is the cousin of Hux by marriage 
Tiion Sal-Solo and Randil Sal, the unnamed illegitimate half sister of Tiion and Jonash, Owen and Beru Lars, and Celly and Kayo Organa, are the great uncles and great aunts of Kylo,
Therefor they are the great uncles and aunts of Hux by marriage 
(Randil and Beru are related by marriage. Owen is Anakin’s step-brother. Celly and Kayo are not blood related. Celly is Breha’s sister)
Shmi Skywalker Lars and Clieg Lars, and Denn Solo (or Dalla Solo, Dalla Suul, or Dalla the black) are the great grand parents of kylo, 
therefore, they are the great grandparents of Hux by marriage 
(Clieg is related by marriage. He is Anakin’s step father) 
Korol Solo is the great great grand father of kylo, 
therefore he is the great great grand father of Hux by marriage
Also Kylo is the descendant of King Berethron e Solo, ALLEGEDLY. so, that’s cool
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French
Hux es du Arkanis 
Son Père est Brendol Hux
Sa Mère n’a pas du nom
Hux est un enfant naturel 
Sa Belle-Mère est Maratelle Hux la femme de Brendol 
Il n’a pas des frère ou des soeurs 
Mais Hux a une chattte 
La nom de la chatte est Millicent 
Le mari de Hux est Kylo Ren (ou Ben Solo)
Le Belle-Mère de Hux est Leia Organa Solo
Le Belle-Père de Hux est Han Solo 
Kylo a un demi-frère ou demi-sœur sans nom
donc, il est le demi-frère ou demi-sœur de Hux
Kylo est le neveu de Luke Skywalker 
donc, il est l’oncle de Hux par la mariage 
Rey est la cousine adoptive de Kylo
donc, elle est la cousine de Hux par la mariage 
Anakin Skywalker (ou Darth Vader) et Padmé Amidala est les grands-parents de Kylo (ce sont les parents ou sa mère) et Jaina et Jonash Solo le sont aussi (ce sont les parents ou son père)
donc, ils sont les grands-parents de Hux par la mariage 
Bail Prestor Organa et Breha Organa sont les parents adoptifs du Leia 
Donc ils sont les grands-parents de Kylo,
donc ils sont les grands-parents de Hux par la mariage 
Thrackan Sal-Solo et Niano Organa est les cousins germains de Kylo une fois enlevés,
donc, ils sont les cousins de Hux par la mariage 
(Niano n’a aucun lien de sang)
Threkin Horm est le demi-cousin germains de Kylo une fois enlevés,
donc, ils sont le cousin de Hux par la mariage 
Tiion Sal-Solo et Randil Sal, la demi-sœur illégitime sans nom de Tiion et Jonash, Owen et Beru Lars, et Celly Organa et Kayo Organa, est les grands oncles et les grands tantes de Kylo,
donc, ils sont les grands oncles et les grands tantes de Hux par la mariage 
(Randil et Beru est lié par le mariage. Owen est le beau-frère de Anakin. Celly et Kayo n’a aucun lein de sang. Celly est la soeur de Breha)
Shmi Skywalker Lars et Clieg Lars, et Denn Solo (Ou Dalla Solo, Dalla Suul, ou Dalla le noir) est les arrière-grands-parents de Kylo,
donc, ils sont les arrière-grands-parents de Hux par la mariage
(Clieg est lié par la mariage. Il est le beau-père de Anakin)
Korol Solo est le arrière-arrière-grand-père de Kylo,
donc, il son le arrière-arrière-grand-père de Hux par la mariage 
aussi Kylo est le descendant du roi Berethron e Solo, PRÉTENDUMEN. donc, c’est cool 
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knight-of-aether · 29 days ago
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SWEU Fanon Codex: Red Zabrak in the Sith Empire
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Thousands of years before the first Zabrak colonists crash landed on Dathomir, when the Nightbrothers and their kin had yet to exist, Force-sensitive Zabrak with bright red or orange skin could be found throughout the galaxy. These Zabrak owed their similar traits to their relationship with the Tsis, or ancestral Sith species, and their destinies were linked with the Sith Empire's long and bloody history.
I. Origins
During the early days of the Sith Empire, as it expanded within the isolated Stygian Caldera region, the Sith attempted to conquer and enslave worlds that had previously been settled by Iridonian Zabrak explorers, but they didn’t expect the local resistance - which was largely Force-blind - to put up as much of a fight as it did. In this clash between two warrior cultures, the Zabraks’ tenacity eventually earned the grudging respect of the larger Imperial army.
The Sith lords eventually decided that they were wasting resources on the war, and would be better off taking the locals as their servants and their lands as fiefdom than bombarding them into oblivion. Thus the first treaties were drawn up, with their terms leaning greatly in the Empire's favor. Most Zabrak clans, unwilling to admit defeat but exhausted by the war, agreed to join the Empire after several revisions to their terms. Those who refused were enslaved or executed, their lands confiscated and divided among the Sith and their new vassals.
Many Zabrak followed their new lords to the Sith homeworlds, including Korriban, Ziost, and the Dromund system. During the ages of the Great Hyperspace War and the Empire's fall and reconstitution, its Zabrak diaspora continued to grow. By the time of the Cold War, they had thoroughly intermingled with the last remaining Tsis and their Human-hybrid Red Sith successors, becoming their own hybrid people, the Red Zabrak.
II. Biology
While they share many traits with their Iridonian cousins, the Red Zabrak population has inherited notable Tsis features that are expressed to varying degrees in each individual.
Iridonian-inherited traits:
near-human height and generally fit build
vestigial horns that appear in the first few years of life, and grow in symmetrical patterns on the crown of the head
less hair than most mammalian species; no eyebrows or facial hair, often naturally bald
two hearts and resilient cardiovascular and nervous systems, resulting in greater stamina and a slightly higher pain threshold than many other near-human species
pronounced canine teeth and a metabolism optimized for a carnivorous diet
darkened camouflage striping or inkblot patterns that fade during adolescence, upon which tattoos are traditionally based
Tsis-inherited traits:
skin colors varying from burgundy through red, orange, and peach, similar to Red Sith in complexion and always more ruddy than Iridonian Zabrak
“bleeding” effect of a bright red ring around the iris, a partial expression of the Tsis species’ characteristic glowing eyes
heightened midichlorian levels and increased chance of Force sensitivity
Occasionally, Red Zabrak will display subtle, angular ridges across their skin. Though generally less noticeable than in Red Sith, these ridges have influenced their iconic face and body tattoos, which are a fusion of traditional Iridonian and Sith ritual tattoos that incorporate various symbols to convey clan affiliation and personal stories, and are often designed to outline and enhance any observable Tsis traits.
Bone spurs and cartilaginous tendrils, however, are recessive traits that were lost in most of the Red Zabrak population after first-generation hybrids. These traits, like the aforementioned ridges, appear with more frequency in Human-hybrid Red Sith due to both the selectiveness of the Sith elite, and the quirks of Tsis genetics.
III. Society
While Red Zabrak citizens are nominally equal with all free beings in the Empire, in practice they are second-class citizens compared to Red Sith and Humans, though with societal privilege above other nonhuman species, including Iridonian Zabrak. Scholarly opinion on the merit of their Sith blood weighed against their nonhuman heritage is mixed. Their treatment is comparable to that of the Chiss, but as ancient dependencies of the Empire rather than newfound foreign allies. Meanwhile, in Republic space, they are often viewed with distrust, if not outright detested by Iridonians as traitors to their species. Due to vows of fealty that were sworn when their clans first joined the Empire, many are bound to the ancient Red Sith aristocracy as vassals, with all that entails.
Family ties are vital in both Zabrak and Sith cultures, and the two have become inextricably entangled over their centuries together. The Zabrak openly regard their accomplishments in the Sith Empire as a point of pride and their allegiance as a concession that made both peoples stronger; according to their officially sanctioned history, the Sith definitively proved their superiority in the arena of war, and have remained worthy of following in their exploits to the present day.
Despite the Empire's tendencies towards forced assimilation, the clans have held onto some of their autonomy as agreed upon in their treaties - particularly to organize for cultural events, such as the yearly coming-of-age ceremony in which teenagers traditionally receive their first tattoos, after several days of combat sports, storytelling, and feasting. Large clan gatherings are required to be open to the public, and are routinely monitored by Imperial security forces, but are among the freest cultural expressions in the Empire outside Mandalorians.
Most young Red Zabrak end up in careers that will further the agendas of their affiliated Sith Houses - often the same ones their ancestors swore fealty to when the first treaties divided them among the Sith. Choosing a marriage or career that one’s clan or House disapproves of, or siding with a rival, is to become a social outcast at best. Since the Sith hold the strings of the Empire, they can and will obstruct and manipulate the paths of their servants, and sweep impromptu executions under the rug, in the name of preserving their power bases. Systemic xenophobia in the Empire at large makes social mobility for Red Zabrak even more challenging without Sith aid.
Stereotyped as violent, stubborn, and simple-minded but ultimately honorable aliens, Red Zabrak often end up in military positions within the Empire, and frequently serve as enforcers and assassins to their affiliated Sith houses. Despite the setbacks they face, this tenacious people can be found throughout the Empire in higher positions and greater numbers than any other non-Human or Sith species.
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shellshooked · 2 years ago
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rebel generals of the twilight squadron
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spaceyjessa · 25 days ago
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Just started reading Order 66 last night and I'm already doomed. I may or may not have stayed up until like 5:30am when I finally convinced myself it was time to sleep rambles under the cut (Repcomm spoilers in case you're as not up to date as I am) I am like only 12% into this book but yeah, doomed already.
AHHHHHHHH! Okay first off I love how Bard'ika has completely adopted the Mando way, the lines about him only knowing how to completely surrender to a lifestyle were so resonant and his outlook makes so much sense. Not being able to change the bigger picture but changing your part in it, he's so good.
Loved the insight into Kal's upbringing and backstory. I honestly don't know if there is a character in these books I don't like. (Though after the ending of True Colors I'm still so mad about Etain not telling Darman, I feel so bad for her but am also so frustrated. I love her still)
FI AND PARJA!!! FINALLY ITS HERE!!! The scene that convinced me to read this book was from a post (which I will find later and link) where he is waiting for Parja in the market place and it talks about the mark on his helmet that denotes him as a veteran with a brain injury. I'm so weak for any sort of disability rep so I finally decided to dive into it. The way she is with him is so kind but also so respectful, like she doesn't treat him like he's incapable but helps him meet and exceed his own limitations little by little.
Then we have Ordo and Besany. I've really liked Besany since her first introduction and something about Ordo just absolutely gets me hes so awkward and adorable while also being the knife that Kal described and I like how natural Besany's reactions are?? Like this is the life she's chosen but she almost can't believe it and the way she looks at Ordo, seeing what he's been made into and how unfair it is. Also highly relatable that clearly Ordo knows her response to any stress is caf as he makes that pot INSTANTLY when they get back to her apartment. Even the way he proposes is so Ordo and when she's not sure if he wants to arm wrestle or not I almost cackled. The scene does such a good job identifying her expectations vs her reality and how she's doing her best to adapt.
I stopped right when I read Darman's name in his first appearance in the book cause I am just not ready....maybe tonight
PLEASE I JUST WANT ONE COUPLE TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE AND LIVE AND BE HAPPY AND DOMESTIC BUT THIS IS STAR WARS WHY DID I CHOOSE THIS T^T
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walkawaytall · 9 months ago
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I'm sorry. What?
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sinisterexaggerator · 4 months ago
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One thing that is funny about Weequay religion I can't get over:
"Some Weequay took to worshiping a child's toy which generated random answers to questions posed to it, simply on the grounds that it was small, round and white and bore a passing resemblance to the moon. They believed that Quay inhabited each sphere and was replying to their questions."
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They worshiped a magic 8-ball, guys.
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katzs-current-obsession · 1 year ago
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I need some very specific and in-depth help.
I need a full timeline of what happens before, during, and after Order 66.
This includes:
Ahsoka and Maul on Mandalore
Obi-Wan and Grievous on Utapau
The clones. I mean all of them. Where is the Star Corps, where is the 212th, where is the 501st, where is the 41st (they're with the Batch, right?), where is the Wolfpack
How long does Anakin have visions of Padme dying?? Is this, like, once, or does it plague him for a while
Where does Mace Windu come in before all this
uhhh what else am i forgetting
How long before the Order did Tup's chip malfunction?
And also:
where is Delta Squad? I don't think we ever see them during the Order in the books or the game, but I could be mistaken
and Aiwha Squad. As far as I know, they executed the Order, but I don't remember if it was at the end of their comics or if it is just implied off-screen.
If you're a loremonger, I would really appreciate some help. I'm writing a fic, and I need to make everything as canon-accurate as possible for my own sanity.
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