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Blessed feast of St. Marinos!
#I’m heading to a pride festival with my mom so it’s fitting :)#st. marinos#st. marina the monk#multiple modern and ancient sources use both names and a variety of pronouns#in my mind marinos fits best but I’ll have to ask them when I meet them#ora pro nobis
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Saint Marinos the Monk. He's a trans man and a monk so everyone should know about him.
another vote recorded for St Marina/St Marinos the Monk!
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Hi everyone,
In honor of my TOG fic “Their souls were knit together (and he loved him as himself)” reaching 10k (thank you readers!!) I wanted to compile my (80+) resource links I used during the plotting stage and throughout the fic - divided by category as best as I could manage.
In case you’d like additional resources, please check out @actualmermaid historical resource upload here, and/or the The Old Guard Character Resource Hub. Here’s a list of books as well:
Genoa & the Genoese 958-1528 ( x )
The Crusade Indulgence: Spiritual Rewards and the Theology of the Crusades, c. 1095-1216 ( x ) - a post with excerpts linked below
Housing the Stranger in the Mediterranean World: Lodging, Trade, and Travel in Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages ( x )
The rest under the cut in case you’d like to avoid potential spoilers (nothing descriptive)
For Genoa
San Siro ( x )
San Lorenzo ( x ) & St. John the Baptist ( x )
The Mahdia Campaign of 1087 ( x )
Nicolò as a Genovese crossbowman ( x ) ( x )
For Mahdia
Yusuf’s potential backstory with Mahdia ( x ) ( x ) and the Zirid dynasty ( x )
And his family’s intergenerational trauma in relation to the Battle of Haydaran in 1052 ( x )
For the Crusades
Some other ways a non noble Nicolò might have found himself in the Crusades ( x ) ( x ) ( x )
General timeline of the first crusade ( x )
The Siege of Antioch ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x )
The Siege of Jerusalem ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x )
Visual maps of the city of Jerusalem and surrounding area ( x ) and general climate ( x )
For Constantinople
Daily life in the city ( x ) ( x ) ( x )
Procession of the Theotokos icon ( x )
Maps of the city from that time ( x ) ( x )
Their apartment and general housing ( x )
Little Hagia Sophia ( x )
Church of Sts Sergius and Bacchus ( x ) - and why that would have been meaningful to Nicolò ( x ) as the setting for their Adelphopoiesis ( x ) & here are the Byzantine instructions for it ( x )
For Islamic spiritual practices
Barzakh ( x ) & Jinn ( x ) (both referred to in a blink and you’d miss it sort of way)
Qur’an scroll ( x ) - technically a 19th century copy, but was using it as a visual reference
Islamic calendar for that year ( x ) & the significance of Yusuf’s first death of rajab ( x )
The verse Yusuf reflects on when he internally refers to Nicolò as his dearest ( x )
The verse Nicolò inscribed on Yusuf’s wedding present ( x )
For Catholic spiritual practices
Lay Orders (what used to be called Third Order) for Nicolò to be an oblate ( x )
Eleusa icon (a gift he received from Brother Gabriel) ( x ) - here’s a 12th century version ( x )
The cross necklace gift Nicolò received before leaving Genoa ( x )
Excerpts from the book linked above about how indulgences played a part in the Crusades ( x )
Lenten practices in the middle ages ( x )
Some Bible verses Nicolò reflects on during his love confession ( x ) ( x )
For some interfaith dialogue moments
The Canticle of Zechariah in the Liturgy of Hours ( x ) & Verse 95 for corresponding references to the dawn ( x )
Why Zechariah is important in both faiths ( x )
Encouragement for open dialogue and friendliness ( x ) the rights of Non-Muslims as laid out in the Constitution of Medina ( x ) and protection via the Testament of Muhammed ( x ) though there are some doubts to the authenticity
Lent & Ramadan similarities ( x ) ( x )
Interfaith marriage rights between Christians and Muslims from Muhammed ( x )
For some other historical context
Context for same sex attraction in the middle ages ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x ) ( x )
Some LGTB+ historical figures and Saints Nicolò might have been aware of ( x ) ( x )
Brother Gabriel from chapter two was based on Marina the Monk ( x )
Wiki about illiterate popes ( x )
11th-12th century trade maps ( x )
Tunisian Arabic ( x )
The Great Schism of 1054 ( x )
The Seljuk Empire ( x )
The Byzantine-Venetian treaty of 1082 ( x )
A poem by Abu Nawas that Yusuf reflects on before the love confession ( x )
For the Biblical references and significance to Nicolò of Gortyn/Crete ( x ) and some visual references ( x )
Why Chandax as a honeymoon site would have been comfortable for them both ( x ) & ruled by the Byzantine Empire at the time of their visit ( x )
The book Yusuf gave to Nicolò as a wedding present ( x ) & some context ( x )
#thank you readers!#their souls were knit together fic#tog fic#tog#the old guard#the old guard fic#tog resource#the old guard resource#immortal husbands#joe x nicky#yusuf x nicolo#tog joe#tog nicky#yusuf al kaysani#nicolò di genova#for queue
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Hello! Apologies if this has come up before, I'm still catching up on the show, but I was curious if you've read Byzantine Intersectionality by Roland Betancourt. It's a great book that I discovered through another favourite podcast (@queerasfact) when they interviewed the author. In particular, there's some really cool stuff about saints that Betancourt interprets as being transgender, and if you guys are ever looking for a pride month/trans day of visibility etc. topic, I would highly recommend anyone from the "Transgender Lives" chapter, like St. Marinos (Mary/Marina the Monk) and St. Dorotheos (Apollinaris Syncletica). Also, there's some fun stuff about Thomas being gay for Jesus.
Hello! I haven't read that book and I would never presume to answer for Chris but I would guess he hasn't either. It sounds great and definitely along the lines of the kind of thing we like to cover.
Marinos/Marina has only come up tangentially on the show because they get confused with Pelagia of Antioch, who we covered on our Holy Harlots episode.
I'll definitely look into the book, thanks for the rec!
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Hi ! I don't know about words for trans men, but I do know that there is a catholic and orthodox patron saint that was AFAB and lived as a man. Look up St Marine/Marina. Popular girl name in East Europe. Lived as a monk and was only discovered to be AFAB after death. Marina ostensibly changed his name, pronouns and appearance to become a monk and thus be able to care for his elderly father, so we'll never know wether he identified as a man or woman or did so only out of filial devotion. Became a symbol of filial devotion and a saint, even if it was as a woman. I think there are probably many other religious figures through out history that would be considered trans men today, but that were recorded as their assigned gender at birth/as women. What I like about St Marina is that it's specifically the fact that an AFAB lived as a monk/man that made him into a Saint in the eyes of the church. Not a big fan of remembering him as a woman or of picturing living as another gender as this huge sacrifice, but definitely a big fan of the Church seeing a trans man and going "wow, so pious, so virtuous, a saint, should be emulated" instead of "crossdressing freak"
Anyway. Thought you might like this story 🤷🏻♀️
I love this story, thank you for sharing it with me
#transgender#the t is not for token#transmasculine#transmasculinity#transmasculine pride#queer history
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ST. MARINA THE MONK-St. Marina Roman Catholic Virgin- She flourished in Bithynia in the eighth century, and served God under the habit of a monk, with extraordinary fervor. Her wonderful humility, meekness, and patience are celebrated in the lives of the fathers of the desert. Feastday: June 18
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5 saints that reveal the surprising history of transgender acceptance in early Christianity
The past year has seen a shocking rise in attacks on the LGBTQ+ community, and transgender Americans have been a particular focus of conservatives and far-right extremists. Coverage in mainstream media outlets has only exacerbated what has become a veritable moral panic by pointing to a supposed rise in the number of young people identifying as trans or nonbinary. But the truth, as anyone with even a casual knowledge of history will recognize, is that transgender people have always existed, across centuries and cultures. And that apparently includes a surprising and underacknowledged number of early Christian saints. In a 2020 essay for The Advocate, University of California, Irvine, professor of art history Roland Betancourt writes that “from the fifth to the ninth century, a number of saints’ lives composed across the Greek-speaking Mediterranean detail the lives of individuals assigned female at birth who for a host of different reasons chose to live out their adult lives as men in monasteries.” In his effort to “pull back the curtain on the neglected history of transgender stories and literatures in early Christianity,” Betancourt name-checks several of these saints. These are a few of their stories: Saint Perpetua Betancourt writes that “the night before her execution, the early-third century Christian martyr Perpetua had a dream about her impending death” in which she saw herself transformed into a man. The account comes from Passio sanctarum Perpetuae et Felicitatis (The Passion of Saints Perpetua and Felicity), believed to be written by Perpetua herself. “My clothes were stripped off, and suddenly I was a man,” Perpetua writes of the vision. Betancourt questions the notion that this is simply an indication of “a misogynist pattern of thought that understood the betterment of the feminine through a transformation into the qualities of the masculine when discussing spiritual ascent.” Hilarion Betancourt also points to the Legend of Hilaria. Considered a work of fiction, the tale nonetheless led to Hilaria being recognized as a saint. As the story goes, Hilaria was born the daughter of the Roman emperor Zeno. At 18, she disguises herself as a man and travels to Egypt where she lives out the rest of her life as a monk known as Hilarion. Marinos Similar to the Legend of Hilaria, the story of “Marina the Monk” tells of a young woman who lives her life as a monk. Rather than be married off, Marina convinces her wealthy father to allow her to join him when he gives away all his money and joins a monastery. She shaves her head and takes the name Marinos. Marinos was later falsely accused of fathering a child with an innkeeper’s daughter. Forced to leave the monastery, Marinos raised the child. Marinos and the child were later accepted back into the monastery, where they endured harsh penalties. It was only after Marinos’s death that it was discovered that he could not have fathered the child. Smaragdus This story parallels that of “Marina the Monk.” Euphrosyne of Alexandria was born the daughter of a wealthy family but rejected marriage in favor of the monastic life. At about the age of 13, Euphrosyne’s family was visited by a monk who advised her to disguise herself as a man in order to lead a life of celibacy and asceticism. Euphrosyne later shaved her head and was accepted into a monastery, claiming to be a eunuch. Taking the name Smaragdus, she lived the rest of her days as a monk. Athanasius The sixth-century saint Athanasia was married to another saint, Andronicus. After the deaths of their two children, Athanasia dreamed of St. Justin Martyr who told her to dress as a monk. The couple then gave away their wealth and set out for Alexandria, where they parted ways. They met again 12 years later, but Andronicus did not recognize his spouse, who was dressed as a man and had taken the name Athanasius. They continued to travel together as monks and later shared a cell in a monastery, where they died within days of each other. http://dlvr.it/Sg1fLv
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Ooh! Saint marina the monk & st joan of arc
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The Shrine of St. Marina in Mtiuleti
Marina the Monk
Marina probably lived in the 5th century, and the first biographical account was probably written sometime between 525 and 650; it is preserved in several manuscripts, including one from the tenth century.
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St Marina the Monk plzzzzz
Another vote for St Marina/Marinos! IDK if St Marinos will make the bracket, not enough votes!!
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List of books I read this year
Persuasion by Jane Austen
Red Dragon by Thomas Harris
A Streetcar Named Desire by Tennessee Williams
Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
Morirás Lejos by José Emilio Pacheco
Devotions by Mary Oliver
Imaginary Friend by Stephen Chbosky
Mrs. Dolloway by Virginia Woolf
The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
Collected Poems by Edna St. Vincent Millay
My Cousin Rachel by Daphne Du Maurier
Sputnik Sweetheart by Haruki Murakami
Twelve Moons by Mary Oliver
The Hunchback of Notre-Dame by Victor Hugo
At Swim-Two-Birds by Flann O’Brien
New Selected Poems 1966-1987 by Seamus Heaney
Ulysses by James Joyce
The Celtic Twilight: Faerie and Folklore by W. B. Yeats
Normal People by Sally Rooney
The Dark by John McGahern
The Yellow Wallpaper by Charlotte Perkins Gilman
Une sirène à Paris by Mathias Malzieu
Atonement by Ian McEwan
The Shipping News by Annie Proulx
After the Quake by Haruki Murakami
Far From the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy
Breakfast at Tiffany’s by Truman Capote
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms by George R. R. Martin
The Silence of the Lambs by Thomas Harris
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
A Room with a View by E. M. Forster
Les Fleurs du Mal by Charles Baudelaire
E. E. Cummings: Complete Poems 1904-1962 by E. E. Cummings
No me preguntes cómo pasa el tiempo: Poemas 1964-1968 by José Emilio Pacheco
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
Mrs. Caliban by Rachel Ingalls
The Importance of Being Earnest by Oscar Wilde
The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes by Suzanne Collins
Beloved by Toni Morrison
After Dark by Haruki Murakami
The Collected Poems of W. B. Yeats by W. B. Yeats
The Collected Poems of Oscar Wilde by Oscar Wilde
Breath, Eyes, Memory of Edwidge Danticat
Marina by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
El Aleph by Jorge Luis Borges
Selected Poems by Marina Tsvetaeva
The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides
Kiss Kiss by Roald Dahl
Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood
Adonis by Adonis
If Not, Winter by Sappho
Mexican Gothic by Silvia Moreno-García
The Trial by Franz Kafka
The Iliad by Homer
Collected Poems, 1909-1962 by T.S. Eliot
The Selected Poetry of Rainer Maria Rilke by Rainer Maria Rilke
The Odyssey by Homer
The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
A Room of One’s Own by Virginia Woolf
Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson by Emily Dickinson
The Painted Bird by Jerzy Kosinski
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer by Patrick Süskind
Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine by Gail Honeyman
The Tattoist of Auschwitz by Heather Morris
Fire & Blood by George R.R. Martin
Arráncame la vida by Ángeles Mastretta
The Wonder by Emma Donoghue
32 Candles by Ernessa T. Carter
Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman by Haruki Murakami
Collected Poems, 1912-1944 by H.D.
I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith
Hannibal by Thomas Harris
The Tell-Tale Heart and Other Writings by Edgar Allan Poe
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving
The Shining by Stephen King
The Complete Poems by John Keats
The Monk by Matthew Gregory Lewis
The Birds and Other Stories by Daphne du Maurier
Fingersmith by Sarah Waters
Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides
Picnic at Hanging Rock by Joan Lindsay
The Hour of the Star by Clarice Lispector
La ciudad de vapor by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
The Collected Poems of Audre Lorde by Audre Lorde
Hiroshima by John Hersey
Selected Poems: 1965-1975 by Margaret Atwood
Selected Poems II: 1976-1986 by Margaret Atwood
Dearly: New Poems by Margaret Atwood
Uncollected Poems by Rainer Maria Rilke
My Dark Vanessa by Kate Elizabeth Russell
The Book of Disquiet by Fernando Pessoa
Circe by Madeline Miller
The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran
The End of Everything (Astrophysically Speaking) by Katie Mack
Before We Were Yours by Lisa Wingate
The Road by Cormac McCarthy
Poems: 1962-2012 by Louise Glück
Lady Windermere’s Fan by Oscar Wilde
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vibes/aesthetic i adore: the spooky background artwork from the original Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? cartoon, foggy deep coniferous woods, flowy floral dresses, combat fashion boots, overflowing libraries, large mugs of hot tea, Animal Crossing & Legend of Zelda games, clear starry nights, lavender fields, chunky sweaters, overcast days, Agatha Christie adaptations & books, Jane Austen adaptations & books, my birthstone peridot, doilies & lace trimming, A Christmas Carol re-read in December, original Dracula re-read in October, walks in tree-filled parks, the smell of a campfire, the Pacific Northwest, ghost stories, happy endings, Hades & Persephone, Beauty & the Beast, historical & contemporary romance books, Studio Ghibli films & movie soundtracks, cats basking in the sun, the planet Jupiter, the yearning of the romantic leading characters in period dramas, marking off accomplished tasks on a checklist, dogs happy to see you, quoting classic Monty Python lines, watching all three extended Lord of the Rings films, Spock being his endearingly logical self on Star Trek TOS, Enya music, ballet flats, the Anne of Green Gables series & The Winternight Trilogy, the autumn season, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow games, the show Foyle's War, witch hats, stacks of books all over your home, the smell of the Oregon coast beaches, mermaid & bronze octopus decor, a slice or two of strawberry shortcake, piles of cozy blankets, gilded hardcover books with ribbon bookmarks, thunderstorms, cottonwood trees along a gently flowing river, butterflies & bees in a wild garden, Converse sneakers, small chubby birds, snowy mountaintops, making your partner belly laugh, The Golden Girls, the Ocean Eyes album by Owl City, Masterpiece Theatre & Mystery!, being entirely silly & definitely not stopping, playing Lord Huron & Foals & CHVRCHES & AURORA & Lights & First Aid Kit & MARINA music on repeat, coffee table books featuring flowers & astrophotography, old photos of lost family you've never met but you just know would love & be proud of you, Robert Stack-era Unsolved Myteries, beautiful cursive writing in old letters from decades long past, reading the Sebastian St Cyr & William Monk & Her Royal Spyness & the Gaslight Mystery book series, getting the next book in a series you've been collecting for a while, The Mummy (1999) & The Mummy Rreturns (2001) movies, the Star Wars prequel trilogy, the Jurassic Park original 3 films, collecting pretty & cute stickers & never sticking them on anything because it's too much pressure & heartbreakingly final, collecting pretty notebooks & never writing in them because it never seems worthy enough, lilac trees, blood red roses, learning that one of your great-grandfathers' favorite flower was the forget-me-not, learning that another one was named Cornelius, plague doctor-themed accessories & decor, buying yet another plushie or 5, Tiffany lamps, witchy music like Florence + the Machine & Hozier, small telescopes & binoculars to spy on the Galilean moons, Bigfoot decor, a cat's activation chirp/meow when they wake up, synthwave music, Murder She Wrote, Garak & Martok on DS9, wearing nerdy hoodies, very specific pins & stickers, macarons & tea while watching Sherlock
#spooky yet soft#aesthetic#Jane Austen#Agatha Christie#Lord of the Rings#Anne of Green Gables#starry nights#Scooby Doo Where Are You#cozy#foggy woods#camping#Pacific Northwest#autumn#fall#fashion combat boots and floral dresses#delicate pretty things#Studio Ghibli#Hades & Persephone#outer space#cats#dogs#libraries#books#Nintendo#Animal Crossing#historical and contemporary romance#period dramas#so much yearning#I crave it#Lord Huron
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Hi! So which lesser known saints you would choose for those hidden shrines? Because I’m kind of in love with that idea
I'm speaking from an American context so some of the "lesser known" saints would actually be known elsewhere. Honestly I love to put up little shrines of St. Thecla, Little Gilles Bouhours, St. Marina the Monk, St. Gertrude of Nivelles, and St. Maurice of Aganaum.
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SAINTS OF THE DAY FOR June 18
St. Aquilina, Roman Catholic Virgin and Martyr beheaded at Byblos. She was only twelve years old. Feastday: June 18
ST. GREGORY BARBARIGO, BISHOP OF PADUA AND CARDINAL
ST. MARINA THE MONK-St. Marina Roman Catholic Virgin- She flourished in Bithynia in the eighth century, and served God under the habit of a monk, with extraordinary fervor. Her wonderful humility, meekness, and patience are celebrated in the lives of the fathers of the desert. Feastday: June 18
June 18th - Servant of God Edward Billotet & 5Companions, SJ https://www.jesuit.org.sg/june-edward-billotet-5-companions-sj/ The Druses then began from June 1860 to massacre Maronite Christians. Within three weeks they killed 7750 Christians, destroyed 560 churches, burned 360 villages, razed 42 convents and left 28 schools in ruins. Zahle was the worst casualty because of its concentration of Catholics.
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Day 37, 26th Sept, Venice
Today we fiddled around, did a bit of shopping and Judy and I went to see the Scala Contarini del Bovolo which was close to our apartment. Unfortunately, we couldn’t go up as they had a private function happening.
We then saw Judy and Maggie off on the airport vaporetto from St Angelo wharf. It certainly makes it easy to get to the airport. Judy was flying back to London and Maggie was staying near the airport as she had a very early morning flight to Split tomorrow where she is going on a cruise around the islands.
Glenice and I hopped on another vaporetto and headed to the island of San Giorgio Maggiore which is across from San Marco’s Square.
Looking towards San Marco’s Square.
The Chiesa di San Giorgio Maggiore. The weather was brilliant and very few people around.
In the Chiesa the Benedictine monks had commissioned an exhibition by Irish artist Sean Scully. We have seen very little art in Venice as we have been too busy doing other things so this was a nice surprise to see this art work in the church. In the middle of the church was a monumental site specific sculpture ‘Opulent Ascension’ inspired by the biblical story of Jacob’s Ladder.
Explanations and other works were also displayed in the cloister area behind the church.
The artists thought process during the creation of his work.
Sometimes when you see abstract art it’s difficult to understand what it is about but reading all the artists notes you could understand where he was coming from.
I wouldn’t mind one of these in my new unit.
There were three of these and were the artists children on holidays. I liked these ones as well. The more you wandered the more involved you became with his work.
The monks seats behind the altar.
The curving on the timber was impressive and each figure and scene was different.
Around the monestry were other takes on ‘Jacobs’s Ladder’. This one made of metal.
On one side of the island was a big marina. Glenice was in seventh heaven as she used to own a sailing boat which was moored off her Harbourside home in Manly.
A bit of money here. A perfect area for sailing.
The green at the side is the end of Venice’s main area and the buildings on the horizon is Lido where were were going later.
On another part of the island were also exhibits from the American artist Marino Barovier who works with Murano glass. This piece was very beautiful with the light behind.
Each block had been individually made. Very beautiful.
Having lunch at a lovely cafe next to the boats. We have had many many cafe stops on this trip.
The gardens in the cloisters.
Me. You never get sick of that background.
We left the island and caught the vaporetto to Lido about 19 minutes from San Marcos Square but a mile away in atmosphere. The Lido is very modern and a beach resort. Venice from a distance.
Arriving on Lido
We walked from the ferry to the beach. A bit like Manly. This area was new and more modern. Chalk and cheese compared to a ten minute vaporetto ride to Venice.
Colourful old hotel along the Main Street.
Visitors probably are excited about this beach but compared to ours it doesn’t make the cut.
Nice bar area right on the beach.
Last view of San Marco’s Square.
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