#spn universe discourse

[soullessjack]

high as shit thinking about how steven universe fans would never survive supernatural . The discourse would be insane

[laurelwinchester]

imagine being one of those weirdly bitter and permanently miserable anti jensen dean stans right now. you guys are really missing out. today was a blast.

[dotthings]

There's a lot of content to go through but definitely check out Jensen, Danneel, and Robbie's commentary in this interview with Nerds and Beyond about making the SPN universe more inclusive.

Some bullet points to note:

Jensen acknowledging the era SPN started in and the limits the mothership had. "And I also want to say too just to touch on that because you mentioned Supernatural and the mothership, we did have a lot of older white, straight men. That was just the nature of the show and how it was built and laid out. Everyone was always well aware that it was that and we needed to make an effort not to do that and to diversify." Jensen went on to talk about bridging the eras and drawing on the knowledge of the old guard while opening the universe up to new voices. "we’re looking at things more from a 'let’s make sure we’re getting this right, let’s make sure we’re bringing in people who can do that' but then 'let’s also make sure we’re using every chance we get to broaden our horizons.'"

Danneel talked about the importance of inclusion but also, emphasized that it's accurate for the 1970's: "Yeah, it was a goal, but it’s a reflection of what society truly is and truly was in the 70s. It’s just that television never was an accurate representation of us as people."

Robbie about the inclusiveness on The Winchesters discussed the importance of found family: "Diversity is great, inclusion is better. So we had an opportunity from the jump to really differentiate ourselves by having more than just the two hander. Obviously, this is John and Mary’s supernatural love story, but within that it was who are the people with them? The thing that I really, truly loved about Supernatural whether it was season 1 or season 15 was that family don’t end in blood is really about, to me, is about the family that you find. There’s the family that you’re born into, and for some people like myself they are blessed, it’s a wonderful thing. For others they’re not as blessed, it’s a terrible thing. But then there’s the family that you make and that was really important to be as inclusive in that family as possible from the beginning."

Robbie also mentions that his father is Mexican and his wife is latine. Something to keep in mind.

Robbie differentiating between "diversity" and "inclusion" is also really interesting. To me, that is a reflection on how diversity can sometimes winds up being checking off ticky boxes to fend of accusations of not being diverse enough. Inclusion is far deeper and more thorough. It means the characters are given sustained pov and are crucial parts of the story, not tacked on to say "look how diverse we are."

The link between family don't end with blood and these inclusion issues with SPN has always been fraught, and it's at the point where the anti-found family discourse is very tangled with narrow-minded thinking that wants things to stay stuck in the past and stick to just 2 brothers in the car.

Robbie's acknowledged elsewhere how SPN started out with a small cast, and then grew, so it's not even right wrt the mothership to say it was "only" one thing. But The Winchesters has an opportunity to go much farther and everyone at CMP is taking it. Supernatural is for everybody and that should be reflected on the screen and behind the scenes. I'm really happy about what they want to accomplish here.

[hataketobi]

be respectful in the tags pls! i’m not rly interested in discourse i just like stats so this will probably be the only one i do of these

[blacknidstang]

2, 9, 12, 17 💓💓

Hiii hellooo <33

Alright here we gooo

2) overall worst season

OH BOY WHERE DO I START. Ok i think s15 is a very easy answer to this and it is the objective answer but the show being burdened by corona and if I'm not wrong, number of new writers, i cannot take it seriously. However for me, very personally s12 was the most unwatchable one. Like yes s13 is also wretched with all the fucking dinosaurs and just overall terrible everything but i got more soft spot for it. S12 does not land on his feet because i think the writers in that very specific season forgot how to write Sam & Dean's dynamic & this entire show has its golden moments because of them so if you mess that up you lose everything . Plus i think bmol were worst than dinosaurs & empty & apocalyptic world & dean/lucifer mid air fight. The only unexpectedly amazing scene there was Dean's speech in Mary's head and if it wasn't for that, i'd find a way to wipe this season from face of the universe.

9) best season finale

CAN I EVER GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER? NO. i am always very very torn betwen ahbl and swan song. I think both are unforgettable masterpieces and both hold different values to me. I often end up voting for swan song myself bc it felt like SUCH a conclusion to a big story. And because of the "Impala Story" that literally ruined me but there's something about Swan Song that was very overall perfect.

With ahbl i dare to say, it holds probably some of my favorite moments in the entire tv show history. The same way swan song was the conclusion to the story, ahbl was a conclusion to a very emotional build up that blew me away. I think story-wise tho the second part especially was less impactful for me. In the entirety of the episode it"s the beginning aka. Dean's speech and the ending witj Sam's "did i die dean?" THOSE where the ones that stayed with me. Much more than the whole deal with closing the hell's gate. So when i rewatch i'm watching thes3 selected scenes: Sam's death, dean selling his soul & them facing this decision at the end. It was life altering for me but swan song as an episode on a whole level remained more with me.

Then there's also Sacrifice. That finale remains the best episode ever after Kripke. I can't put above the other two but it also is so amazing on every single level that i cannot NOT mention it

12) favorite sam season

I love sam in every episode and every season but if i gotta pick, I think sam in s5 is my upmost favorite one bc of how beaten and ruined he is. I can go forever and ever peeling off layers of his self hatred, self doubts, wish to grow, to make up for everything, all leading to his big sacrifice. This makes my heart ache over and over and over. And after that it would be s10, i love when is just fucking unhinged doing messiest thing, trial era and s9 just because he is so fucking pretty in s9. Prettiest malewife ever.

17) favorite villain

Without a shadow of doubt it would be Azazel for me. Everything about this character was perfect. The actor's delivery, the way he ruined lives, the danger he posed that i never felt the felt repeating in the series ever again.

Except for one.

See i love characters like Crowley and Lucifer (pre-Dabb especially) but i like them more as characters than villains, but beside Azazel there's one imo underrated villain that really fucked me up and it's Zachariah. I think there was something so vile about an angel being that manipulative and vicious. The scene in dark side of the moon with Mary still makes my skin crawl & i think just like Azazel's actor, this guy delivered every scene with such brilliant wretchedness that i cannot help but be in love with.

Spn discourse asks

[castielnova]

i log off from my genetics class on university dot edu and log on to tumblr dot edu to see a fucking punnett square of dean’s hair colour on my dash. im killing everyone 

[stevegasnsip]

I am firmly standing on my "it should have gone semi canon in Lebanon" hill, it was romantic and they all knew it was romantic, but Dean makes the wish on the pearl and it's not John coming back because by season 14 he has shown multiple times that he knows John wasn't always a good parent, and I think he feels guilty that a part of him his relieved his dad is dead but I don't think he feels guilty enough to want his dad to come back especially not after Mary come back and it wasn't the perfect fantasy he had imagined all those years

I just think that at that point we know he's tired, he's admitted it before so we know that he has this sliver of hope that he gets to have a peaceful life one day, and through the leans of them being in love despite not being together, Lebanon could have been about Dean coming home to Cas, it could have been the reveal that Dean's greatest wish was to get to a point where things were calm enough that he could retire, or take a Bobby-like role where he helps out and only actually hunts when absolutely necessary, but outside of that he has a life, a little house in town with Cas and Jack, and Sam has a room there because he didn't stop hunting but Dean hates the though of being somewhere he doesn't have space for Sam if he wants it or needs it, but mostly it's all casual stuff, Cas wakes him up in the morning because Dean works at the mechanic in town, just like he wanted to when he was 16, and Jack calls him dad over breakfast, and when he's leaving Cas gives him a kiss on the cheek, and Dean spends the day working with other people and having fun, he pretends to be some FBI guy on the phone to help Claire out, and he gets caught up the normalcy of it all, in getting to just be and not worry that Cas is going to die in front of him again, in not having to worry about Jack dying, and in trusting Sam enough to let him go, to let him use the bunker by himself and lead the hunters the way they showed us he's good at, and by the end of the day Dean comes home and Sam found them and he sits and they all have dinner together, and Dean kisses Cas, he really kisses him, and he says "I love you" and Cas says it back, and then Dean takes Sam outside and tells him they have to break the pearl, because this is good but this doesn't defeat Michael, and when they do and Sam tries to bring up that being with Cas is Dean's greatest wish, Dean tells him the same thing he told him about Ben and Lisa, and Sam doesn't bring it up, and he doesn't point out that Cas very clearly loves Dean back because the world is ending, it's always ending, and they never catch a break, and it's not like Sam can talk to Cas about it because Cas made the deal with the empty 5 episodes before, so he's not about to entertain conversations about his feelings for Dean

I just think it was the perfect place to drop it and never mention it again

[kalashtars]

surviving in the supernatural fandom really just consists of hanging out in your own corner because i went to go look at the supernatural tag and saw one of the worst takes i've seen in like, a week.

[glitterinlowgravity]

the existence of the spn books still fucks me up so much like. what do the google results of the Winchesters even look like? news stories about them having committed various crimes, true crime forums, and fanfic of the books? do the true crime and book communities have discourse about whether or not fic is rpf?

[onlyonekenobi]

Has 'you and i' by 1d been discussed or no because: 'you and I, we don't wanna be like them / we can make it 'til the end / nothing can come between you and I / not even the Gods above / can separate the two of us / no, nothing can come between you and I'

it is ALWAYS a good time to talk about “you and I” re: deancas

that line!! and also the line “I know how it goes / I know how it goes from wrong and right / Silence and sound / Did they ever hold each other tight like us? / Did they ever fight like us?” in particular GETS to me for them. (anything about silence, really. a one hit knockout)

also midnight memories came out 25 november 2013, plausibly making it written in the wake of season gr8, and last minute edited in the wake of “heaven can’t wait,” I will be taking no questions at this time

[starplatinumnun]

the discourse in the in-universe spn fandom must be fucking wild

- one one hand we have the "supernatural is real" truthers (it's a poorly kept secret and an inside joke)

- then the "if supernatural is real then we shouldn't be glorifying murderers" camp of people (it's called murdergate and every once in a while it gets a massive resurgence)

- the "i think they're real and murderers but i've decided the crimes are funny" group. (they argue with the murdergate group a lot)

- the "god is carver edlund" truthers (about 90% of the fandom, to varying degrees of belief)

- "if supernatural is real then is shipping spn characters RPF?" (no one can agree on this)

- the "carver edlund is a prophet" theorists (they argue with god chuck truthers a lot)

- people just straight up start praying to castiel (and a few get their prayers answered)

- people straight up attempt rituals from the books to see what'll happen (gone incredibly wrong)

- there is a non-zero group of people who know that the winchesters are real for certain (and have probably met them)

- a popular supernatural fan-theorist is revealed to be a prophet or some shit

- the percentage of people who pick up hunting skills from supernatural and keep salt around their houses is surprisingly large

[dotthings]

Some thoughts:

The characters and events we’re seeing on TW are not an alternate timeline from what we saw on spn prime.

John could have had all the growth we’re seeing, and been a better human, and had a close knit group of hunter friends, and still fall the way he did. The differences between TW and spn prime are the results of unreliable narrators, how memory works, and assumptions made based on the bits and pieces of the puzzle we saw.

Dean didn’t have the whole story before. We didn’t have the whole story before.

This is the path that will to the John we know in the mothership. A lot of the spec and discourse around this relies on fully dehumanizing John, where he has to be always all terrible, and there can be no good and he can’t have had loving supportive friends and still fall.

Without the love and support John has in TW, things would have gone even worse. For him, for everyone.

Without this specific timeline of events we’re seeing on TW, this family would have been even more broken with increased generational trauma and whatever worse outcomes you can imagine.

Because Sam and Dean weren’t the Sam and Dean we know.

Also no Sam and Dean as they are, no Cas. No Cas, world is lost. The only Cas in all the worlds who refused to follow orders. Who fell in love.

And John and Mary fell even farther. Because the good parts were lessened even further. Don’t dehumanize them. This isn’t an apologia. On the mothership, John and Mary were never evil and we did see the loving parts of them, buried or damaged but still alive.

On TW we’re learning just how much their capacity for love really is. Their hope and their love that becomes damaged and buried, but it’s never burned out. They are not fully lost.

The monster club of 1972 is what leads to Team Free Will being who they are.

This is it.

It’s what “really happened.”

Not a “better timeline” — this is the path that leads to the events of spn prime.

The EP’s expressly told us they aren’t changing the mothership events, that TW isn’t alteration to mothership events, and that there’s no polaroid fade effect.

This timeline isn’t getting wiped out. Maybe the temptation arises. In hopes of an even happier outcome, but the loss of this particular timeline dooms everyone.

Recontextualizing and filling in blanks and giving the fuller version of history. Telling the spn universe through a kinder, warmer lens.

Dean gave John the letter. Dean sent John to Mary and Mary led John to Carlos and Lata.

The rebar death isn’t being undone. And I want it undone. But that’s not how this is going to work, but, listen, the rebar death is going to get its comeuppance. It’s going to be overshadowed by what’s next for Dean’s continuing story. That rebar is going to pay.

Dean’s legacy and his ongoing story is going to melt it down and the story engine will roar on beyond it.

Dean, who has been the biggest heart center of the spn mothership, with his big way of loving, not only the author of this story in the sense that he is telling it, he is actually the spark who set of these specific events, he pushed over that domino. He picked the music.

And with an opportunity to stop himself, he’s going to stay his hand, let it play out how it did, and be good with who he is.

[incarnateirony]

I've been generally... impressed with growth I've seen in the base line of the SPN fandom's dialogue, despite my complaints at certain groups and flares.

When I first hopped off the fence I had watched SPN fandom on for years, even THAT was many years ago.

Back then, this fandom denied a great many things. They refused some things you might laugh at now. The global decline of ratings, for example. Jared stans denied that loudly when they tried to blame Misha for "low ratings", but the second their show crash they tried to use it (incorrectly in a nonapplicable way). Scripts I leaked. Endings I uh. Specced. Maybe even again got mocked for speccing by would be ITKers like Pat, until Dabb confirmed it.

Like. My life is a cycle of posting things and some asshole arguing with me and brushing the results under the rug but

Fandom mostly--MOSTLY--seems to get it. Discourse is opening about corporate structures and trades and potential influences. People are sending good asks, and one not driven purely by a single ship, though sometimes how that ship interplays with this grander media universe.

Which was always kinda the whole point.

I think Tess said it best. (For those that don't know, she was a professional reviewer assigned an episode 300 review so power watched the show for research for the article while livetweeting)

...and it's true.

And I look to the current crowds.

From Amazon, an inbound flow of mature viewership simply discussing the canon that is, laughing off the anti takes this fandom let itself get sucked into for years. They're used to adult storytelling. Whats's canon is canon. Not what personally fulfills our representational wants is canon. Just like. What's canon is canon. Many things it is, but queerbait it isn't.

SPN and CW fandom arguments exist in a bubble, often with young audiences convinced of what "queerbait" means divorced from actual academia, and even more criminal older people with their own agendas, sometimes even dog whistles, sending them out and blinding them so deeply that a clutch of largely 20 year old women feel entitled to even harass, attack, or wish failure on middle aged queer men for not writing middle aged queer men the way 20 year old women wanted, and didn't fight "hard enough" for them, the 20 year old women scream as they crack the whip at creators in shit situations.

But then to act SO GODDAMN SMUG because all your twitter friends believe the same thing with equally shallow effort, convincing yourselves it's progressive, and just LECTURING people looking up from like. Their actual LGBTQ histories, discussions, communities, going "genuinely, what the fuck is wrong with you, shut up"

But I think this flare of QUEERBAIT is a sort of culture shock response. These people are VERY CONFUSED. SPN fandom has let these poor definitions, poor applications, and absolutely terrible academic or historic lgbtq media knowledge be normalized in a sort of "all opinions about how media should work are equal", and it's not. Because like [gestures at my wall trying to keep people from getting lost in the WBD merger]

They want to put that point back in. SPN's audience is suddenly maturing, and being TREATED by this new Amazon audience LIKE The Boys or Mad Men in discussion. And soon, eventually, HBO too.

It seems to be MOSTLY, but not exclusively, younger people, that deeply crave a simple point or objective to fight towards, something you can take a hammer to or throw a molotov through a window and fix, and I'm sorry, part of growing up in the LGBTQ community is realizing it's never, ever that simple, and figuring out sometimes abstract or bizarre compensation methods to fight against our marginalized status without stepping on each other's feet.

So let's make sure we're not cracking the whip on people for, say, performing their own representation demographic well for us while snapped in shackles with a shock collar. Jesus christ.

And yeah, if you missed it, another Queerbait Scholar came out. Trotted out the normal fandom talking points. Tried to declare about degrees and education, pasted a citation

...gave away they've never done research in their life, as the academic paper they cited was a small piece that mapped out argued definitions and, ultimately, disassembled her argument piece by piece about the damages that come with bad faith readings like hers, with a fairly strong conclusion that in no upside down world could be conveyed as even lightly compatible with her point. Like literally, it's very clear she googled keywords trying to force a biased result, read a google truncation, and hit Ctrl+F without reading any surrounding content, because it was like a dissertation DESIGNED to end her.

And we've let this kind of bullshit drive us a while.

I'm glad. I'm glad a lot of people have turned around, but I'm also quite sad that there's others just seeming to double down and increase their violence against LGBTQ content and creators to compensate, screaming "I'M FIGHTING FOR YOU" while mentally pummeling the fuck out of those creators for trying.

I can't emphasize this enough. For all the pomp of her, the people she was trying to downtalk at in huge Dunning-Kruger in a neon lit exhibit display--everyone else read what she cited. She didn't, as was evident by her citing it.

The labor of YOUR ignorance already isn't OURS to deal with to begin with, but to attach that to INTENTIONAL ignorance, the REFUSAL to listen even when redirected to READ ONES OWN CITATION as actually being COUNTER to your argument--that's BEYOND the pall. That's not even just like, anti-intellectual. It's just being a dishonest piece of shit trying to pitch your personal wants beyond active warriors IN the community. Jesus what the fuck? If your best attempted google fu of no doubt suggestive string words only found a paper telling you that you're wrong, maybe you should listen to the elders that have been telling you to STOP ATTACKING QUEER CREATORS STUCK IN LIMITED SITUATIONS FOR YEARS. But of course, they double down instead, because that avoids having to face the impact of their PAST behavior then. (Or maybe it's just addiction to those sweet, sweet likes and trying to grab them before the claim's popularity goes entirely extinct.)

There's a desire for simplicity, but it's not there guys. Let me emphasize. Almost any single scholarly piece on this that ISN'T a self published piece of nonsense someone points at their own work on? Is gonna say the same thing. The same thing has been said for decades. Berens argued the same in 2003. This isn't new. Yall backwards

Whatever this impregnable wall of bitterness impervious to realities from public common knowledge to their own citations is, it's not progress. It looks alien from the outside, even in actual academic LGBTQ media discussions. You normalized it in a bubble.

The fight for progress is hard and complex and probably kind of disorienting and scary when you're new. There's oppression from above and limitations from within and DECADES of complicated discourse of where moral responsibility lies in support of the content despite shortcomings

None of this, I mean absolutely NONE OF THIS is new. It's a highly explored, delicate and nuanced conversation held for decades--less with changed popular opinion, and more with importance of new scopes like the internet or social media.

But somehow we have one cluster of like a dozen people in each CW teen scifish fandom that absolutely trained themselves into believing their unbridled unforgiving scorched earth bitter hell is "THE" LGBTQ way. Rather than one the community has called destructive or limiting to us in some form, for decades.

You don't get to redefine things and change how it works when you don't even UNDERSTAND how it works. You definitely don't get to pretend it's all the other decades more immersed activists in and WELL BEYOND SPN FANDOM that have it fucked up and YOU TEN are the right ones. Jesus

I'm tired of these perpetual aggressions against queer content and creators from SUPPOSED supporters that are VERY SRS ABOUT REP but can't even read the ABSTRACT or scroll to the CONCLUSION before deciding to cite a piece from a google truncation.

I'm genuinely starting to think there's some terfy ass radfem dogwhistling going on consciously from that corner at this point. There's a level of shamelessness that, even when confronted with their own source telling them they were wrong, they double down.

Because if a bunch of 20 year old women decide to tell a bunch of 40 year old queer men how to write 40 year old queer men to the point of encouraging SPITE AND HARASSMENT, that's it. You're not fighting for the 40 year old queer men. Stop pretending you are. If you wanna say you hate gay men or got issues with them then like, get out and go until you take care of that shit. Because this is looking like a very gay creative room, and we don't need bad faith actors tearing them apart pretending it's as an Ally.

If your wish ultimately boils down to wishing failures on a predominantly LGBTQ creative team, I don't care what you gift wrap it in, it's still shit. You're not an ally or friend in this fight.

Can't believe this fandom hears shit like "real activism takes education and nuanced engagement, not quick responses and hammers, not all moments are portland riots resisting the cops, we wouldn't be here that way; use words correctly, so we can actually address the issues we're facing, actually identifying queerbait, or other issues in the system, because if we know what the problems are each to their own we can start addressing them--to support creatives while fighting back against abusive corporations without hurting those creatives. We can't if we just throw 'everything I don't like or wasn't enough for me' in the same fucking bin. And nobody can even pretend the demand for the right to do so services any action. Their intent isn't action. It's noise.'" and pretends these are irrational or unfair statements.

They're ripping apart the people actually taking action.

For the last SEVERAL years whatever Supernatural fandom has had hasn't even remotely looked like real world activism in representation expansion discussions. It looks like a bunch of people who grew up trained in a normalized thunderdome of bad fandom talking points they don't know better than which have moved the entire fucking talking centers off into another fucking solar system from most of the world. It's bloodsport posing as activism, addiction to conflict rather than discussion of advancement, progress, tactics, or celebrating the content they DO manage to make in a warped system.

[clandestinegardenias]

please enjoy the following powerpoint brought to you by the judith butler spn tumblr discourse, my realization that Marx would be the ulitmate heller, my obviously extremely useful phd in sociology, Misha Collins’ B.A. in social theory from University of Chicago, and my pathological need to cope with this damn show SOMEHOW

...if you all are (un)lucky I’ll do contemporary theorists next

[seanwinchester]

imagine gen z monster kids in the spn universe reading the supernatural books because rumors say they're the most accurate description of monsters out there to the extent that they think this was even written by a monster, so they're excited to see themselves represented in the books but then reading it they realize it's obviously biased and like in cop shows the bad guys are the heroes and they (monsters) are always type-cast as bloodthirsty killers (so 90s) and there are not enough nice monsters in the story to make up for it :/ but then some of them still like sam and dean as villains in the same way we people like hannibal so like thinking they're hot for being evil and writing fanfic about them and then monsters are discussing between them and some going like nooooo stop you're romanticizing harmful behavior you literally support the oppressor, and there's discourse in the very niche monster fandom of spn and disturbing fanart and young naive female monsters actually seeking out hunters in the same way some twilight girls did irl with vampires because in the books sam hooks up with madison so they think they have a shot and and–

[mxmollusca]

How not to queerbait in zero easy steps: SPN, OFMD, and my angry gay ass

If you are at all acquainted with the SPN fandom, you're probably aware of the absolute dumptruck full of clown shoes that destiel shippers, myself included, have found themselves buried in since the show ended. SPN has played an important role in my life for many reasons, and I (like the countless other queers that kept the show relevant for as long as it was) just wanted to see our Gay Angel Mascot find a happy ending, one that is sadly frequently elusive for members of the queer community.

What we got was so much worse than I could have imagined. There is no string theory universe in which the writers and showrunners didn't know the damage they were causing, specifically because the discourse surrounding it was so intense. The queerbaiting was rampant, for YEARS, and culminated in the gay lead being fridged, sent to turbohell for his admission of queerness, and then just not mentioned again for the rest of the show. It's not just queerbaiting, it's erasure. I literally could not finish the show because of it.

All of this is to say: Representation doesn't have to be hard! On the daily I am awed by the contrast between the willful and blatant harm enacted on the queer community by SPN with the position and tact taken by David Jenkins, showrunner for Our Flag Means Death. Jenkins is not even a queer man, though the writer's room for the show is well and diversely staffed. That being said, Jenkins' responses to questions about queerbaiting just floor me in their sincere naivete.

David. Fucking. Jenkins. Made this whole show with admittedly little to no understanding of queerbaiting and how deeply damaging it is to the queer community. He rolled up in camper trailer filled with weird kiwis and whatever the fuck a Con O'Neill is and cooked up pure gay crack. It's both a miracle and gift simultaneously.

Here's where I'm chaffing: I KNEW there were canon gay leads in OFMD before watching the show and STILL I waited for the other shoe to drop in the form or some sort of queer-related trauma, or for the narrative to devolve into queerness-as-conflict, or for a good ol' fashioned bury-your-gays...

SPN, YOU DID THAT TO ME. I literally couldn't enjoy this beautiful gift at face value because of the actual fucking trauma you caused. I was trapped in an actual, real-life abusive marriage for many years where I was gaslit every single day, and at the risk of sounding diminishing I must confess that watching OFMD caused in me a severe emotional reaction that I struggle to quantify. I suppose this essay is an attempt at making sense of it -- SPN made me feel unsafe, but I kept coming back to it again and again. OFMD is like the first normal relationship after breaking up with the toxic ex, dating someone who validates you, reflects back to you the good you put into the world, tells you that you deserve fine things and wear them well.

All David Jenkins did was treat us like humans. While I shouldn't have to be grateful for that, I am all the same.

Now let us pray that HBO gives us at least two more seasons of rainbow glitter pirate meth post-haste because I can only reblog the same gifset over and over before I start to get a little twitchy. While it won't undo the 12 year hate-crime of destiel, it will certainly go a long way toward making us all feel a lot safer and well-loved.