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happy pride to people with ‘contradicting’ identities i love you and you’re doing it right
#[a]#it is probably evident enough but for the sake of clarity obviously this post does not mean there aren’t other ‘right’ ways to identify#specifically i made this because i was thinking of mspec lesbians and gays but it is for anyone#edit this breached containment about 900 notes ago hello everyone in the whole world#edit 2 very emotional reading the tags people are leaving on this. i love you#pride
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There's this intuitive feeling around mpsec orientations that are like, "but that's just not what the word means!", but if you really dig in the issue is that orientations don't really make a lot of sense conceptually because they're inherently tied to binary sex.
For instance, I'm a trans woman. Yet, until I get my tits, anyway, if I'm not wearing a big red bow like Ms. Pac-Man it would be completely impossible to guess that just from looking at me. Because trans women are women, a lesbian could date me and keep her lesbian card, at least among trans positive crowds.
For TERFs, this sounds like a win at first, like I'm pointing out a way in which being trans doesn't make sense because if a lesbian is into someone who looks exactly like a cis man she can't be a lesbian, right? Except...cis lesbians have been made fun of, harassed, and terrorized for their masculinity as far back as can be remembered. Even straight women have been put through the ringer if they don't look feminine enough - I will, for the millionth time, point to Chyna - but among lesbians specifically there have been countless women who could plausibly pass for men if they put just a little bit of effort into it, and many did because being butch as hell is something to be celebrated even if they didn't frame their far-end-of-the-scale butchness as wanting to "pass for men". They could have.
So in both cases, trans or cis, being attracted to a woman who is identical to society's idea of a man is not a disqualifier from being a lesbian. "Political" or "mspec" lesbianism, identifying with lesbianism for a reason other than definitionally being attracted solely to people who identify as women, is the only way the idea of being a lesbian makes sense. It's the only way being gay or straight makes sense. Because gender is so arbitrary, there's no way to make it work unless you're willing to enforce a strict binary that very few queer people want.
Like if you think girls can/should only have soft delicate features and wear lipstick and dresses, fine, I guess it's logically consistent to say being a lesbian is physical attraction to a fixed, limited set of features. But if you're willing to broaden your horizons to any extent, what being attracted to a woman means quickly breaks down. A TERF would say it's physical sex that matters and something something AMAB vaginas aren't the same but I'd like to take a Kinsey Detector and scan a lesbian who loves getting strapped by a hyper-masculine butch to see where she lands.
So there are all these situations where we say "still a lesbian", even though logically the people who are into those girls should be plenty capable of being attracted other people. To bring it back to the trans point of view, I don't really understand how a lesbian could be attracted to me and then turn around and say lesbianism is based purely on what gender you're attracted to, while some would be viciously mean to her and accuse her of transphobia (which I would hate) if she weren't into me. Because what if, hypothetically, I woke up tomorrow and said "you know, I think I'm feeling more comfortable thinking of myself as a man these days " - that changes everything over night? That lesbian is no longer attracted to me when I change my pronouns? What if I had already been thinking that and I just didn't say anything about it, was she attracted to a man for a brief period of time?
Gender and how we classify attraction is just very, very arbitrary. Gender abolitionists see trans people as reinforcing gender, but I've always said that if they thought about it for two seconds they'd realize trans people are a deathblow to everything they hate about gender. They can't separate gender from sex so they see it as trans people wanting every girl who's not traditionally feminine to be boys and every boy who's not traditionally masculine to be women.
And, well, that's one reason I hate egg shit because yeah that is actually kinna doing that. It's at least reinforcing pink=girl mentality. Like to be clear, I'm not saying you can't associate girlhood with the color pink, I just think that when a cis man likes the color pink and you go "have you tried estrogen?" you're not just associating the two concepts but actively backing up the societal expectation that to like pink is to be a girl. It's like the difference between associating candy canes with Christmas and being convinced it's somehow already December again when you see peppermints being sold in the middle of March.
But other than that, which I've gone on the record against over and over, trans people are smashing society's concept of gender into pieces. "Orientation" as traditionally thought of must naturally also come down because it rests atop that foundation.
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Hi! Do you know of a term that is a umbrella term for *all* identities considered “contradictory”(like mspec lesbians, lesboys, etc), and if not, could you potentially make one? Thanks!
i couldn't find one, so here's one!
subtliden: an umbrella term for identities such as mspec lesbian/veldian/gay/straight/etc., gaybian/velaurian, lesboy/turigirl, mesque, cistrans/transcis, transmasculine girl/transfeminine boy, and more; essentially a replacement/alternate term for 'contradictory labels'
[pt: subtliden: an umbrella term for identities such as mspec lesbian/veldian/gay/straight/etc., gaybian/velaurian, lesboy/turigirl, mesque, cistrans/transcis, transmasculine girl/transfeminine boy, and more; essentially a replacement/alternate term for 'contradictory labels'. end pt]
the term comes from 'subtle' and 'identity', since these terms all describe identities that have subtleties that not everyone will understand.
as a community we adopted the word 'contradictory' for our identities, which (to my knowledge) was first used for us by exclusionists, but not all of us feel that our identities oppose one another. for example, i'm attracted to men and various nonbinary genders as a genderqueer man, and i choose to acknowledge both my veldian identity and my mspec identity - i don't feel my identity is contradictory, it's just specific and subtle!
(quick addition: this term is still 100% inclusive of those who do feel their identities contradict, it's just meant to be a more general term that doesn't alienate those who don't!)
i didn't make a flag because i honestly don't know how to encapsulate all subtlidens in one flag; i think someone else made a contradictory labels flag that one could use, but i can't find it at the moment
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I made a post about labels being as useful/important as you make them and I want to branch off of that to specifically talk about the m-spec umbrella.
A lot of discourse exists over this but aside from that, I know a lot of people have struggled with not knowing exactly where they sit on that spectrum, when they have imposter syndrome with the label(s) they have chosen, dealing with being invalidated, etc. so heres some validation:
You're not inherently transphobic/enbyphobic for identifying as bisexual. Maybe it's just the term that's felt comfortable for so long and that's chill. Maybe you like it because it's a bit more vague than some other labels, maybe you use one of the lesser "known" definitions of bi even if it's a long standing one (i.e. attraction to the same gender as yourself and other genders), or maybe it's just the label you vibe with and the specific reason doesn't really matter!
Pansexuality doesn't mean you can't occasionally crave interactions (romantic/sexual/sensual) with people of specific genders! If your version of pansexuality is attraction regardless of gender, that doesn't mean that occasional drifts from your norm/usual magically means you have to change your label.
Omnisexuality isn't the exact same as pansexual and I know a lot of y'all are tired of hearing that it is. Overlap certainly exists and many people could identify as one or the other, but that's true for so many labels on different spectrums.
To my polysexuals, I too am frustrated with the constant correlation to polyamory (people think they're the same thing). I don't even identify as polysexual and I feel that pain.
You're still homo/heteroflexible even if you're dating one of your exceptions/rare cases of attraction to someone of that gender. You don't have to drop this label if it makes you happy and brings you comfort. Your sexuality is not invalidated by the person(s) you are dating.
M-spec gays/lesbians are so valid and boiling sexuality down to 100% strict AF labels is harmful. There's so many reasons one may identify as such, and regardless of your reasons, it's not any stranger's business.
Abrosexuals (who consider themselves/their label mspec) aren't confused. You're not doing anything wrong by acknowledging your sexuality is fluid and embracing that.
The multisexual umbrella is such a diverse and expensive spectrum that trying to reduce people down to one strict definition of being attracted to multiple genders is silly. Sexuality as a whole is a very complicated thing and can be experienced in so many ways. Sometimes something is just too vague for you personally, or even too specific, and that's chill. Whatever label or lackthereof makes you happy is the right choice.
#no discourse ffs#lgbtqia#lgbtq+#mspec#multisexual#bisexual#polyseuxal#pansexual#Omnisexual#mspec lesbian#mspec gay#heteroflexible#homoflexible
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what are all the flags in your intro? :D /genq
I LOVE ANSWERING THESE TY FOR ASKING I will go in order for u and go in as much depth as I can!!
good faith 4 good faith
made by @stainedlenses! I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that it is for people who support good faith identities and would prefer to be partners with somebody else who is also a good faith supporter :3c (as in supporting all good faith identities such as mspec lesbians)
masculine-identified feminine-aligned cross-aligned flag
I made this one! it's for anybody who identifies as cross aligned and identifies as a masculine gender, but aligns with a feminine gender. for example im transfemmasc intersex and I identify as a man, but im aligned with any fiaspec genders (I think that's the right term).
transfem flag
also made by me! originally this was just supposed to be an "intersex transfem" flag but because the transfem community doesn't ENTIRELY have a flag we have agreed on (same with the transmasc community) I wanted to make it for just anybody who is transfem of any variant. I was also really exclusionary when I made it and decided on the flag with votes so I want to repurpose it for people who aren't exclusionary.
I know we have the pink and blue transfem and transmasc flags but as an intersex person I just wanted to stay away from them bc of all the discourse and potential false information cuz idk who to trust atp.
turigirl flag
idk who made this but basically for any turian/veldian/gay person who identifies as a girl in some way! it's the counterpart for lesboy!
inclusive dawn lesbian flag
made by @redtail-lol! imo it's really pretty, but basically I'm using it in place of the mainstream/sunset lesbian flag bc 1.) it was made by a bi lesbian 2.) it was made by somebody who is inclusive 3.) it isn't 2 flags smashed together so it has originality (which taking inspo is fine, u can have originality while taking inspo but the sunset flag didn't have that), and more! these are all reasons to use the dawn flag over using the sunset flag, in my personal preference. u don't have to use it!
lesboy flag
counterpart to turigirl, for anybody who identifies as a lesbian and a boy in some way!
lunian lesbian flag (idk why this one is smaller)
for lesbians who want to specify they're mspec without an mspec label/for lesbians who want to include lesbians of all genders!
intertransfluid
for anybody who is intersex and cannot specifically pinpoint what their gender is due to having a unique connection to gender/feels like no current terms completely match their gender or one of their genders/is fluid around what terms they use due to not knowing which one fits best. I also made this flag and coined the term!
7 stripe Sappho lesbian flag
made by @thepokedexisgay! for anybody who is a lesbian and wants to use the Sappho flag or this one I believe!! I use it instead of the mainstream one as well bc it's more inclusive and doesn't have connections to any sort of bigotry or racism. nor does it include any part of the lipstick flag which I am uncomfortable with
I think that's all of them! I hope this helps you!
#bi lesbian#lesbian#mspec lesbian#mspec safe#bi lesboy#gay#lesboy#lgbt#lgbtq+#mspec lesboy#mogai coining#mogai#mogai flag#mogai term#mogai gender#trans#transfem#transgender#transmasc#cross aligned#queer#gender#bisexual#pansexual#bi#pan#bi/pan lesbian#bi/pan#aroace#asexual
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idk i thought the reason ppl identified as bi lesbians or mspec lesbians was due to the fact that they didnt see it as lesbian to date nonbinary people
this is the first anon and sorry for my weird takes im just confused
bc it honestly just feels like instead of bi/pan/omni folks using sapphic/queer/neptunic/etc to describe themselves, they're using something that has at least at *some* point i think meant an exclusive attraction to women/nonbinary ppl/etc. but if not you can correct me ofc
i guess the issue i have is that there are no other terms i know of to describe exclusive liking of women or nb peeps
Honestly here's my thing. The sooner you can accept that labels for sexual identities hold no intrinsic power and are much more like names or clothing or haircuts in that they are ways to express and define yourself then the sooner you will understand why people who have lived outside the cishet binary understanding of sexuality and gender want to play with the intrinsically more flexible nature of being queer. Any and all queer discourse over labels immediately becomes redundant when you understand that 99% of the time the labels will have literally zero affect on how you interact with someone irl. If some people want lesbian to mean exclusively women attracted to women, I get it. But the thing is you're gonna run into lesbians who don't define it that way and there's no way to decide what's the "definitive" take on the word because the end goal of all self-made identities is to label yourself in a way that makes you happy. If it makes you unhappy to identify exclusively as a lesbian, why do it? If it makes you unhappy to identify as bisexual, why do it? If it makes you HAPPY to identify as a bi lesbian and it is literally hurting no one? Why NOT do it? The English language is only trying to get decent approximations of the idea expressed by queerness and these labels were never going to be rigidly defined terms. After all, if we wanted to put all queer people in little clearly defined boxes, we'd just be making CisHet 2. Let yourself live free and realize that fretting over the specifics of how people identify is unneeded stress and jam out with some cool gay people ���️
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" Usually I ignore hate like this but this is so fucking funny to me
Nowhere in my bio does it say I'm a woman you dumbass LMFAO, it says I'm female, which is different than a woman
Saying I'm just gay and trans does not explain the entirety of my experience, I can use whatever fucking labels I want to describe myself whether you like it or not you wet sock
"That's not real it's made up", yeah all words are you fucking idiot
The fact that you would stone people based on an identity that literally doesn't affect your tiny brain at all says a lot about you
YOU'RE the one who's disrespecting the trans people who have died to transphobia by caring so much about the fact that this is how I experience my transness
I think they'd be proud of the fact that me and so many others are reclaiming slurs that have been used against us
Have you ever even heard of cistrans people? Probably not considering your brain implodes at the thought of male lesbians
Also where the fuck are the "fetishes" in my bio you're speaking of? Those are just my dating preferences fuckface, what? Are you mad that you don't fit those preferences? You're just mad you can't be with me because I'm so great
You are actually so fucking stupid it's funny, you think I actually care about your opinion?
Mspec gays, lesbians and straights will and have always existed, no matter what your tiny brain thinks
Lesboys and turigirls still exist too you idiot
Oh boo hoo a butch lesbian is calling themselves a lesboy, and you're getting offended over that? That's really fucking pathetic
Gay and trans people died for my and other weird queer people's rights, and the rights for us to identify however we want
R you rlly gonna support xenogenders but not other niche queer identities? Stupid ass
Nobody ever said all lesbians like men or that lesbians have to like men, lesbians only like men if they're attracted to men while also calling themselves a lesbian you dumbass
Irl literally nobody cares if you identify as an mspec gay or lesboy, it's people like you who keep pulling this stupid discourse back up WHEN LITERALLY NOBODY CARES
It's not affecting you assfuck
I'm pro stoning people who are like you, specifically with big boulders "
" Have you ever even heard of cistrans people? Probably not considering your brain implodes at the thought of male lesbians " neither of those exist take your meds,
"R you rlly gonna support xenogenders but not other niche queer identities? Stupid ass" yeah lol :3
" Nobody ever said all lesbians like men or that lesbians have to like men, lesbians only like men if they're attracted to men while also calling themselves a lesbian you dumbass" so theyre not lesbian got it ^_^
" It's not affecting you assfuck " have you ever thought about maybe the ideology that lesbians can like men is literally what gets most of them raped
anyway all the swearing from ur post makes me giggle bc youre actually so mad, maybe ask mommy to change your diaper or something
" Also where the fuck are the "fetishes" in my bio you're speaking of? Those are just my dating preferences fuckface, what? Are you mad that you don't fit those preferences? You're just mad you can't be with me because I'm so great " im actually so happy i dont fit those bc i dont date 500lbs people LMAOO maybe try listening to other people than your divorced mom who got beaten by all her past partners who says "youre so beautiful" because all shes doing is lying to you, it would b better for you to know now that ur double chin aint doing any good for you. you just gotta know youre really below average before someone tells you and you end up killing yourself over it
" Saying I'm just gay and trans does not explain the entirety of my experience, I can use whatever fucking labels I want to describe myself whether you like it or not you wet sock " how about you use the labels the term "delusional, obese, and extremely ugly"
I literally do not care
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Siema I'm Feliks and you're on my blog. He/him or it/its if you really want to refer to me. Very queer, disabled, disordered and plural. I post mdarc icons on here. Anyone can use any of them, credit appreciated but not required, I'll know you when I see you.
I default to square icons, so let me know if you want a circular one. Can safely put a max of 6 flags in one icon, you can ask for more if you want but it'll probably look weird. I'll probably finish your request faster if you ask for 3 characters or less within one ask, if you want you can spread these out across multiple asks it will make my sad sad life easier.
Oh and also note. Please clarify if you mean "gay" as in the rainbow flag or the blue-green gay flag, if you won't then I'll just default to the blue-and-green flag. If there are multiple versions of the same flag then I'll just default to the one I think is most common, if you want a specific one in that case then please specify or link it / mention the coiner if it's a very obscure one that I won't be able to easily find.
Request rules or something:
What I'll do:
Most pride flags, all good faith identities including ones you feel are "contradictory" like mspec monos (ex. bi lesbians, or pan gays), straight lesbians/gays as well as gaybians/lesbigays, lesboys and turigirls, honeybee transfems and coffee bean transmascs, as well as xenogenders (though if it's lesser known, then either specify who made the flag or link it to me cause I'm probably gonna have a hard time finding it otherwise) and neopronoun flags;
Tertiary attraction and atertiary flags;
Otherkin and alterhuman flags (including transspecies), but if it's more specific than just the general ones, then you'll probably have to specify just like with xenogenders;
Disability and neurodivergency (including plurality) flags, advised to also specify or else I'll just use the one I see the most;
Rabies pride, because this is what it actually means;
Objectum flags;
If you aren't sure if I'd do anything that's currently listed on here then you can always send in an ask.
What I won't do:
Kink and/or NSFW flags;
Agere flags;
Country flags;
Sapio/morosexual flags;
Paraphilia flags, I want to specify I have nothing against any paraphiles as I don't believe in thought crimes, I just don't really feel like doing them just like the ones listed above;
Radqueer flags (please grow and change as a person);
Any bad faith and/or deliberately exclusionary flags.
No DNI, no bringing up any discourse (queer discourse especially, but applies to shipcourse or syscourse as well), no arguining and being rude to anybody, being nice to me is mandatory. Don't ask me to tag queer as ''q slur''.
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Proper Blog Introduction
Hello, and welcome to Redtail's ramblings and occasional coinings! Enjoy your stay.
Free Help for Palestine - A communal document created by me and editable by everyone for finding free ways to help Palestine! Mostly composed of petitions at the moment. If you can't donate or just want more ways to help Palestine it's very helpful.
About Me and the Blog:
I mostly will be coining orientations instead of genders because there are so many genders and the orientation market is low, and will mostly be coining labels that apply to me. However, I am willing to coin labels that don't apply to me. Please feel free to ask, and if I'm uncomfortable, I will just deny it.
Some posts aren't centered around me coining so sorry for any clutter
I am a perisex bigendermeld girl + enby and I use she/they pronouns
I have a label collection/hoard of 300+ that I loving named The Boxfort Palace. I may start a third blog just for my hoard. Or I may just keep it on the doc
Some of my important identities are asexual (fully, absolutely no sexual attraction), cupiosexual, demiromantic, lunian/mspec lesbian, bi lesbian, poly lesbian, and omni lesbian, and I specifically use full-moon springtide versions of all these labels. I do not identify as an mspec mono because there is nothing monoromantic about my lesbian attraction. I don't have an issue with the mspec mono label existing but I don't think it applies to me.
This blog supports aspec people, xenogenders, mspec gays/lesbians, gaybians, mspec hets, gayhets/straightbians and lesboys/turigirls. I am an mspec lesbian and ace.
This blog is NOT anti-paraphilia. I believe people with genuinely harmful and nonconsensual paras need access to help and support, and aren't inherently evil. I also believe paraphilias that are strange but not harmful or nonconsensual are fine. Do what makes you happy. Pro-contact harmful paraphilias, this is NOT about you. Please seek help and do not abuse.
I am Crit-Inclus and seek to understand people before I fully accept them. If I ask you questions about your identity, I mean no disrespect
I am predominantly white and am not comfortable with making things specifically for any POC because it does not feel like my place. If my blog grows big and people want to use my blog for visibility, post on your own blog and I will reblog it.
Because I am perisex I will not coin intersex specific terms, though you may ask for flag design help and reblogs for visibility
I am autistic and self diagnosed, I haven't updated this in a while but I've given up on not saying I'm autistic without diagnosis a long time ago, lmao. I got 153 on my most recent RAADS-R taking I def have autism
Still anti ABA and anti autism speaks fuck those guys
This blog is anti Boeing we hate Boeing in this household (if you're confused ask me about the 737 MAX I'll go on for hours)
I am a singlet so I'm not gonna do system specific labels. I will reblog system labels upon request
I do NOT coin radqueer identities. Radqueers can request non-radqueer identities because there's no reason to say you can't request something because of a belief. Even if it's harmful it's none of my business I'm the coiner. But I am anti-rq so you choose if you want me making the term
You may ask me to coin anything you would like if it isn't on here. It is my decision if I do it.
I am an adult, but the blog is safe for older minors
People in my DNI are allowed to use my flags and labels. I don't believe in gatekeeping who's allowed to use a term based on personal beliefs and opinions. I just don't wish to have personal interactions with you guys. It's up to you if you want to use flags made by an mspec lesbian who accepts xenogenders, lesboys/turigirls and the like, gaybians, and other complex contradictory identities.
I would appreciate if everyone who follows me can like, reblog, or comment on a post before or shortly after following. This is to make sure I don't follow back porn accounts that won't read this. I might block people who do not follow this rule because I will assume you are a porn account that just wants to send me spam links, especially if you're a blank blog.
Free Palestine. Fuck Isreal.
DNI:
Pedophiles (I'm not calling you MAPs.) Whether you're non-offending or not, please just don't interact with me. I support you guys getting the help you need but as a minor I think it's best we don't interact beyond maybe some likes and a request or two. I'm still too close to being a kid
Anyone who is going to start discourse. I don't care if you're proship, antiship, exclus, radinclus, radqueer, or anything. Don't start discourse. You can only continue discourse that I start. You can use my terms if they apply to you, like my stuff, reblog it, and comment, as long as you aren't starting an argument.
Solicitors looking to promote any sexual services. I am asexual, leave me alone. I don't want your porn. I will bodyshame you.
Anybody looking to e-date. I'm arospec, specifically demiromantic, so approaching me with romantic intent means you'll have to wait for something that'll never happen.
DO NOT FOLLOW:
Queerphobic people
Racists/ALM/Anti-BLM.
Sexists/anti feminists
Radfems (you aren't real feminists, you're misandrists, AND you're misogynists, all at once)
Zionists/Pro-Israel
People who believe in transmisogyny but not transmisandry/transandrophobia
People who believe trans men hold any significant power over cis women or over trans women
Idiots who think only transfems can use the tr slur
People who think femboy is a slur or is about transfems. There is a 0% difference between calling a transfem a femboy and calling a transfem a boy. Femboy is an identity. It's entitled to think trans women can dictate what men identify as based on the bigotrd actions of others weaponizing gnc men's identities to misgender others.
Exclusionists (including mspec lesbian/gay/enbian exclus, lesboy and turigirl exclus, and gaybian exclus.)
Incels of any type. This doesn't refer to anybody who just hasn't lost their virginity yet, but specifically the kind of people who hold it against the people they're attracted to. This is usually straight men and incels are often a misogynistic hate group.
Radqueer/transx/transid and supporters
Pro-contact or Comp-contact Big 3 Paras
Anti-contact non-harmful, consensual paras
Pro-AI art
Proship/profic
NSFW blogs
Anyone in the DNI
I follow people back blindly so please don't follow me if I'm going to have to see gross things on the feed.
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Hello! I'm panda, check out my gender. I use they/xe/þei primarily and if you want to only use one set that's okay. I am very, very aro. I'm not cis but I'm not trans either. I'm very normal about Omori, Star Trek, Mathematics and trains (lying).
Mutuals if you consistently reblog/post shipping content, please that tag it as #shipping
My incredible boyfriend is @tesco-finest-aromantics <2
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Header image is from here
I got these from here
I kindly ask NSFW/18+ blogs, discourse heavy blogs, and shipping centred blogs to not interact
Please don't refer to me with words like "bro" or "dude". Whilst they may be "gender neutral" in your vernacular, they aren't really in mine.
https://www.tumblr.com/klavierpanda/741935276808617984
Opinions/stances:
Gender dysphoria is not a necessary condition to be transgender
I support all "weird" and "contradictory" queer identities of good faith, e.g. mspec gays/lesbians, lesboys/turigirls, xenogenders, queerhets, etc
Sex and romance are not intrinsically bad. Whilst the way that society at large interacts with them is flawed, completely getting rid of them is not the solution
Trans men face a unique form of oppression and "transandrophobia" is a good term to describe it
"Narc abuse" isn't real. There are ways of describing your abuse and abuser which do not demonise personality disorders
I'm both anti-monarchy and anti-unionist (not against trade unions, but the UK being united)
I support informed self-diagnosis
Alterhumanity, nonhumanity, and therianthropy are real
Tone tags are not useless just because you personally don't find them helpful
Making fun of British people is not the progressive win you think it is. You are just playing into the deeply rooted classism. You are not funny (that includes saying "Bri'ish")
The previous point goes doubly if you're making fun of non-English Brits
Sex repulsion/aversion is not an excuse for sex negativity
I hope you enjoy your say!
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If you would like me to tag any triggers, please ask and I will try my best
Tagging my aro specific posts with ace tags or otherwise talking over said posts will result in you being blocked immediately
Don't hesitate to tag me in a post you think I'd enjoy/send me asks as I enjoy recieving both! (anon is currently on)
Anyone can reblog my yearning posts if they would like to, just be mindful that if they are tagged with nblm I am yearning over a guy
This blog (and all of my blogs) is endo safe
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i wish more people who support the concept or bi or m-spec lesbians would stop and consider just for a moment WHY lesbians might be so upset about people implying or outright saying that we can like men. these people (and people in general tbh) seem to think we're only oppressed for liking women, when, personally, i've faced way more hostility, aggression, and weaponized "ignorance" over the fact that i do not like men. (before anyone twists my words, i'm NOT saying lesbians have it worse than bi women/nonbinary people, because they also experience a unique axis of oppression that lesbians don't by being attracted to all genders. our experiences overlap, but they are different, and it's okay for both parties to talk about that)
growing up, i was terrified of the concepts of marriage, sex, romance, and love since everyone around me only spoke of my future experiences with these things under the rigid assumption that my partner would be a man. i tried telling them i'd rather be single forever (i had yet to realize i was "allowed" to be gay), and they always insisted that i would grow up and change my mind, which made me even more terrified. they presented partnership with a man as something that was an inevitable, unavoidable part of my future. i'm lucky to have had a (mostly) supportive environment when i finally discovered that i felt this way because i'm a lesbian, and i can happily say i'm no longer afraid of those things since i now know i can have them without a man, but holy shit, do people not get how traumatizing that is? to be a young person only able to concieve of love as a weapon to be wielded against you?
lesbophobia from cishet people is one thing, but when it's coming from my fellow lgbt people, who i come to for love, support, protection, and companionship after being isolated in my daily life as a result of my lesbianism (and being autistic and gnc), it's just ... unspeakably cruel. i don't think most or them fully realize what they're doing - i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say most of them are just young people that believe they're doing the right thing - but that doesn't excuse this level of violence, especially with how quickly the notion has become popular. they should know better.
also like. not to mention how fast they'll throw trans women and trans lesbians under the bus to dunk on "mono" lesbians but that's another conversation.
A lot of them don’t want to think for a few seconds why we’re so upset about it. They don’t want to recognize and accept our lack of attraction to men because a lot of them are misogynistic, they don’t think there’s people out there who are not attracted to men. It’s not a coincidence that “mspec lesbian” supporters are most likely the same ones saying everyone is bi.
This is what happens with every type of prejudice. People who don’t experience certain thing are less likely to sympathize with people who do face that. Therefore they think we’re exaggerating or that it’s not real because they don’t face it. The saddest thing is that other marginalized people should be able to sympathize with other prejudices because they face oppression.
And lesbians suffer a very unique type of oppression because it’s directly connected to both homophobia and misogyny. Just like you said: we’re not trying to say we have it worse than other sapphics, we’re just trying to make people listen to us and take lesbophobia seriously. And what I say might be controversial but from my experience observing other people it does feel like lesbophobia is taken less seriously than other prejudices related to the LGBTQ+ community. Especially because it’s a very ignored and erased oppression since people immediately box us with gays by calling what we face homophobia when sometimes is a way more specific oppression than that.
It’s frustrating because most of queer lesbophobes are also fighting other kinds of oppression, but they’re actively silencing and promoting lesbophobia. A lot of people might not agree with me but I think they deserve all the hate and oppression they get, very hypocritical wanting to stop [insert phobia] while promoting others.
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hii can i get an inbox check? cause i submitted something and i wanna know if tumblr ate it or if you just hadn't gotten to it /lh /nm
sure thing :33
a gender that feels like a kitty dragon made of stars
neotransmasc aroace catgender veldian flag
Gender related to sleep, being in a daze, and goats / sheep
fwu/fwus flag
a flag combo with Intersex, MtM, Abinary, Transemphatic, and Plenialic flags
a combo starlamasc + starlafemme flag
a gender related to astronomy and astrology, planets, and zodiac signs
Hacker lesboy flag
Autigender that is connected to special interest in mysteries, detective work and finding answers!
a gender that is kinda connected to mockingbirds and heavily connected to mimicking other people's or characters' quirks, interests or style automatically or intentionally // changing yourself to appear more like the person/character you're interested in
A gender that is strongly connected to fluidity, changing and instability, but it is solid/partially solid/blurred and cannot be called solid or fluid (examples: connection to changing interests; unstable relationships with internet friends; unstable and quirky personality which user fruitlessly tries to grasp) Mainly for neurodivergent(mainly adhd) folks, but not exclusively
Gender related to shades of blue, the moon, and rainy nights
a gender that’s described as being as full and vast as the sea
gender connected to sunflowers, sunlight, joy and brightness like the sun, a dogs unfiltered happiness, a childs laughter
a gender related to stitting in a sunflowerfield and drawing the sunflowers that are standing in the warm summer sunshine
a gender relted to stargazing in a field of flowers while making up your own constellations based of of flowers
ephemeral lexic gender
a femme apollanox
lexegenders for chemical and test
a flag combo of hexboy, voidthing, and agender
an aroace/gaybian/violenatian/genderqueer/agender flag combo
a gender related to being a gaybian, and leaning/fluctuating more into gay or lesbian depending on the specific situation
a gender related to space, flowers, and being a gaybian
a gender about being a demon but don't think of yourself as evil because of memory loss and identity changes
A gender related to Eldritch beings and being a lesboy
A gender related to Eldritch beings and being a turigirl
transfem lesbimasc and transfem turifem flags
a genderfuck dyke flag
a term for having pronouns/names that should only be used by other inclus; a term where you are comfortable being referred to with certain names/pronouns, but only by other inclus
a bigender flag that is lesboy+turigirl
sunflower loveless/loveless omniaspec flag
a flag for non-mspec gaybians
a gender that is related to eldritch ghosts, eldritch vampires, eldritch mummies, eldritch werewolves, and eldritch Frankenstein monsters
a gender related to two images of two tumblr post memes (can’t attach them here)
multi gaybian flag
bigender (pangender + agender) flag
an allion related to fanfiction
xenogender related to knitted cat beanies
a gender related to nighttime and darkness, warm but breezy weather, cities and tall buildings in cities, late night walks, and generally feels like a solitary thoughtful walk out in the city at night, in a masculine way
an omniplypan flag
a Transmasc + omnigender+ Genderfluid + nonbinary & an aroace + omni-oriantated + lesboy combo flags
a pupgender + lesbian combo flag
abroromantic +lesbian + Cupioromantic combo flag
a semi- version of teratosexual
sun and moon themed omniaspec flags
#🌌written in the stars ; asks 🌌#welp I just realized how many requests I have-#actually excited fkdkdkdkd I love y’all
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Hi, Welcome to our system, disorders, and extra stuff blog. our fun awesome blog where we have pawblems and issues and hold more personal things tied to our identity as parts and a whole. We like to keep this blog super nice and tidy and organized, so if the amount of tags we have and use is a bit overwhelming, I do apologize! It's so nice and tidy...
We do experience Delusional Attachments/Overlaps, also ig known as being an IRL and it effects the system in various ways.
Try to harrass us for literally anything and you get blocked. Try to be weird about us being a system, having overlaps, having disorders, etc and you get blocked. We don't have time nor energy to waste on stupid shit anymore. We WILL Thrive.
Stay Hydrated, Fed, Vitamined, make sure you Rest, take your Meds, and keep yourself and those around you that you care for safe. High, Low, No or Fluxating Empathy, your feelings still matter.
Freq Fronter Intros, Links, Tags we use, DNI, and Creds Under the Cut for Convenience ♡
Freq Fronters
Host
⇦ Maxwell
⇧ 21
⇨ Something[s]!
⇩ It/She/He/Co/Code/
⇦ Xenoflux
⇧ Idemromantic Aspec Omni
⇨ Made of a LOT of things, we don't even know !!!
⇩ Regresses! She has a blog for this
Co-Host+Caretaker
⇦ Doug Eiffel
⇧ 34
⇨ Human
⇩ He/Him
⇦ Cis Man
⇧ Bi?
⇨ Prefers people he isnt close to to call him Eiffel
⇩ We call him a horse because of a joke made about his source
Frontkeeper
⇦ Mikhail
⇧ 26 [?]
⇨ Mostly Human-Looking Demon
⇩ He/It/Cri/Crime/Pun/Punishment/Bun/Bunself/Nib/Nibble/Bi/Bite
⇦ Genderunholy, Bungender, Rabbitgender
⇧ Arospec+Aspec Gay
⇨ His area is right outside of front, easy to get into front. He has a guy who stays with him
⇩ Has prosthetics that line up with some parts of the body the brain has weird feelings about [Wants To Remove Them]
Gatekeeper
⇦ Chicago
⇧ None
⇨ Mechanical+Computer Dragon
⇩ It/He/She [doesnt care]
⇦ ???
⇧ ???
⇨ Technically always in front
⇩ Is Up !
Blog Links + Credits
Main Blog
Maxwell's Regression Blog
Divider Masks made by azure-recesses
NPD Flag made by npdflag
BPD Flag made by dragoneating
Icon Mask made by azure-recesses
BPD System Flag in icon made by sadowife
NPD System Flag in icon made by outergodly
System Tags
-blurry : Signed off as blurry. for when we are ! Blurry
-[name] : used for headmates without a specific tag
LOLCAT Pawgrammer : Maxwell posts
Comms Horse : Eiffel Post
Daemonic Rabbit : Mikhail Posts
Mechanical Dragon : Chicago Posts
Caps Folder : General System's Favs
Maxwell Folder : Maxwell's favs
Eiffel Folder : Eiffel's favs
Mikhail Folder : Mikhail's favs
Chicago folder : Chicago's favs
General Organization Tags
booting up : our posts
rebooting : reblogs
.txt : posts with text
.png : posts with image[s]
.gif : posts with gif[s]
.mp4 : posts with video[s]
.mp3 : posts with audio[s]
.jar : posts with poll[s]
.bat : posts with link[s], only for saving 'important' ones
Tarot Desk : important system to us
Mosiac Symphony : important system to us
Specific Kinds of Posts Tags
Userboxes : Posts with Userboxes we align with
Disorder Flags : Flags based on Disorders
System Flags : Flags based on Systems
Role Flags : Flags based on Roles
Headmate Flags : Flags based on types of Headmates
Gender Flags : Flags based on Genders
Orientation Flags : Flags Based on Orientation
Attraction Flags : Flags based on Attraction
Other Flags : Flags based on Other Things :D A Catch-All
DNI List
Zoos/Pedos/MAPs/NoMAPS + Pro contact harmful paraphilias
Zionists, Racists, Israel Supporters
Believe in Personality Disorder Abuse [Narc Abuse, Borderline Abuse, Histrionic Abuse, ETC]
Transphobes, Transmeds, Terfs, Radfems
Homohobes, Queerphobes
Anti-Mogai, Anti-Xenogenders, Anti-Neopronouns
anti-mspec gays+lesbians, anti contradictory labels
Com+Proshippers
TransID, Radqueer
Nontraumagenics [Mixed Origins Included], Endos, Tulpamancers, Endo Positives/Supporters [We dont think anyones really faking, just dont wanna interact]
Pro Harrassment or Doxxing of Anyone
We also block based on vibes and sometimes just not liking something👍
I can and will add to this list. I also have the forget disorder so things may be missing
Our earlier message about selfcare applies for people on the dni as well. You can grow no matter what. Wether you want to or not. Its pawsible. Shit gets better. ♡
#keybord caps#and now the tags for organizing purposes#-blurry#-[name]#LOLCAT Pawgrammer#Comms Horse#Daemonic Rabbit#Mechanical Dragon#caps folder#maxwell folder#eiffel folder#mikhail folder#chicago folder#booting up#rebooting#.txt#.png#.bat
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I've talked about it at length in this post before, but I do want to bring up two specific instances of this new policy being actively harmful to trans and mspec people re: warnings which makes me view it more harshly
( EDIT ) Also regarding the "slippery slope" of adding in things like "voting history", that shouldn't be an issue as long as there's a simple guideline about keeping things relevant. You could even use those exact examples as guidelines for what isn't acceptable or needed in a warning.
Putting it under the cut but tw for transmisogyny/transphobia/queerphobia/exclusionism and examples/discussion of these things
I was trying to make an edit to the pages featuring a certain Gay Man's flag (specifically the Uranian page first), made by one Val/entin Bely/aev, to potentially warn others (but especially other transfems) that Valentin is Transmisogynistic/Transphobic and his accounts are not safe for Transfems/Trans gays. This edit was rejected under this new policy.
I specifically cited his twitter accounts and certain tweets. He has other accounts and has made similar statements on those. It's not very hard to find
(the last one is a little less clear out of the context of his whole account but he genuinely seems to insist that all of the the trans-inclusive gay men flags are "trans-exclusive/exclude cis gays" and frequently bashes on them.)
I hope I don't have to explain why his narrative of "GNC men are wrongfully transitioning/becoming transfem because people hate men" is Transmisogynistic and why "there's no point in being proud of being queer" is Queerphobia.
(Plus, having a flag exclusively for "homosexual men" as The Uranian Flag on the wiki is misrepresentative of the history and scope of Uranians/Urnings. Despite how Valentin uses it, it does describe a a varying set of gender and sexual identities. I'd really think the LGBTA page needs to be closer to the Nonbinary Wiki's Uranian page in scope. Not to mention that there's no page or even mention of Urningin/Urninde which is a shame.)
The second example is a rejected edit to the Junian (Exclusive) page. Junian is a sibling term to Oshian and Erosian, both of which were coined by exclusionists to be exclusionary terms (this is cited on both pages with sources) and are explicitly anti-mspec Lesbians/Gays. These accounts are also not safe to browse for those trying to avoid exclusionist/queerphobic content.
Junian was coined by the same person who made Erosian and is equally exclusionary, yet my edit to the Junian page that simply added the same information that was present on the Erosian page was rejected under this new policy.
Erosian info and it's cited resource
Junian info (there are no cited resources on the page + even less context about why the term was made)
Citeable exclusionism being ignored aside, this also just makes the Junian page terrible in contrast with the Erosian and Oshian pages. I should not have to go to a different, older page for it's sibling term made by the same person to get the actual background for why they were made (and if those reasons were even correct).
Sorry for rambling. I'm not sure how to wrap up my thoughts on this other than repeating the tags on my original post about it
"I cannot tell you how much LESS USEFUL this makes the wiki... and actually if someone is citing a person saying openly 'i hate this marginalized group' it's not 'personal interpretation'. it's just exclusionism and bigotry'"
Let's talk about term sourcing.
So a few months ago, the LGBTA wiki announced a revision of its policy on declaring an author's personal biases in its references. This..... didn't go down well, and I went ahead and brought it up with Jeb the same day to figure out exactly what xe was thinking and why this policy was announced. The conversation summarises to something like this:
We don't want to call people exclusionist on the wiki because it means we're making the wiki biased
Exclusionist could be used to mean lots of different things so we don't want to use it at all
Slippery slope: If we say a creator didn't like trans people, we could end up adding warnings about a creator's political alignment, voting history and favourite colour of underwear.
At that point it was gone midnight with a pretty stressful day lined up for me the next day, so I decided to leave it there and get back to it later. In very typical fashion I then forgot to get back to it later, until now, when I can actually talk to the users of tumblr about this.
So, I'd like to discuss a possible different solution for this policy. I understand the community on Tumblr doesn't like it, and quite frankly, I'm not a fan either. There are a lot of pros and cons with this policy, so lemme list them out, starting with the pros:
The wiki is supposed to be a source of information, not a source of personal opinion
Different users have different views and understandings of of phobia
As a wiki, it shouldn't be biased
There's probably a few more, but I can't think of too many currently. On the other hand, the cons:
If a user wants to read more about the term, they don't know if (eg.) the tumblr blog they're about to open is phobic. So any further reading from the wiki is a big leap of faith.
We literally have a list of identities that we recognise as good faith, and so it shouldn't be too hard to warn if a source is against these.
We also have a ban on queerphobia, ableism, racism, exclusionism and abuse on the wiki itself.
And I'll leave that at three as well, just to be fair.
So what do we make of this over here? I'd be curious to hear Tumblr's feedback, and anything that I think is really good (from either side of the debate) I'll probably bring up with Jeb in a couple days.
#bug.rb#sorry for going off about this but it's really pushed me into using and working more with both the Nonbinary Wiki and the Miraheze MOGAI-#wiki which is a shame because the LGBTA wiki has been a great resource in the past. I just no longer feel like it's safe for me#or something I want to contribute too or recommend to others for identity/flag/term research#(also the wiki is clearly already 'biased' because it has pages on Mspec Lesbians/Gays and many other LGBT wikis don't even let you mention#that they exist- aside from maybe a 'those aren't real' comment- let alone host actual historical information on them)#some biases (such as being pro-gay and trans rights and anti-homophobe and transphobe) are actually good and positive biases#having a bias isn't inherently negative or bad or unhealthy. there's already an LGBT wiki that's biased in a bad way and that's the FANDOM
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lunar | solar
eclipse lesbian flags!!
flags I made exclusively to piss off a specific tiktok user who wont even see this, but ended up putting way too much effort on anyway lmao I love them and will use them for oc and hc stuff >:) free to use by anyone btw!!
the different versions have the same meaning, just with a different palette and order, theyre both heavily inspired by the sun and moon lesbian flag so I thought "what happenes when moon and sun aligns?? boom!! an eclipse" and thats where the names come from
[image ID: two flags of 7 horizontal stripes, the first one's colors are from top to bottom, cherry, deep blue, purple, lavender, off-white, tan, copper. the second one's colors are from top to bottom, deep blue, cherry, dead rose, salmon, off white, teal, dark teal. end ID]
tagging: @mogai-sunflowers because I think youd be interested >:)
color meanings:
for lunar
cherry: femme lesbians, fem presenting lesbians
deep blue: butch lesbians, masc presenting lesbians
purple: transmasc lesbians, pnc lesbians, mspec lesbians
lavender: intersectionality, trust within the rest of the queer community and minorities
off-white: rejecting purism, shame, and guilt within the community, dykes, and futches
tan: family, trust within lesbian communities, acceptance towards eachother
copper: transfem lesbians, multigender lesbians, aspec lesbians
for solar
deep blue: butch lesbians, masc presenting lesbians
cherry: femme lesbians, fem presenting lesbians
dead rose: transfem lesbians, multigender lesbians, aspec lesbians
salmon: family, trust within lesbian communities, acceptance towards eachother
off-white: rejecting purism, shame, and guilt within the community, dykes, and futches
teal: intersectionality, trust within the rest of the queer community and minorities
dark teal: transmasc lesbians, pnc lesbians, mspec lesbians
obligatory (/j) sunset lesbian inspired stripe order versions
too tired to make IDs for these ones rn, sorry!!
also I probably wont make gay man versions for this, only because I have no idea what it would look like, if you have any ideas though feel free to make one and tag me in it!!
[image description: a black banner with a white outline, theres smiley faces with their tongues sticking out in every corner, also in white. theres also a small pink splatter from the bottom right corner. the banner reads "please do not reupload unless credited and informed". end ID]
#kirucoins#if u see this I had to use chrome to edit this bc tumblr glitches like hell on firefox lmao fuck you tumblr#mogai#mogai blog#mogai community#mogai friendly#lgbt#lgbtq community#lgbt representation#lgbtqia#lgbtq#lgbt flag#lesbian#wlw#wlnb#nblw#lesbianism#lesbian community#sun lesbian#moon lesbian#eclipse lesbian#solar eclipse lesbian#lunar eclipse lesbian#sapphic
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After snoozing, I wanted to take a minute to be astonished at the amount of followers I have now
But also to talk about the downside to this brightside.
Because with the people who have followed me, it makes me hope that they are people who have seen at least some of my posts and liked what they see. I mostly post for myself, but also for the groups of people my posts focus on.
I post positivity and awareness for mspec lesbians, mspec gays, and their supporters. I post critiques and thinkpieces regarding the ways trans men are treated in society and the community. I post funny stories and jokes about being a furry for my fellow furry followers. Every post I make, I hope to either enlighten someone on an issue, or bring them some sense of been seen, heard, and/or cared for.
This blog, and I, the person who runs it, is full of good intentions. Anyone who looks at this blog for more than 30-60 seconds will see that.
And so that is why it's actively malicious to take a person like myself - and MANY of the other people on that list, who post about similar things - and put them on this "transandrophobia truther blocklist"
It takes everything I have ever done, everything unrelated to speaking out against transandrophobia, and erases it. Just to push some agenda to isolate and leave transmascs and trens men open to more harassment, smear campaigns, and general abuse.
It takes away my trans positivity posts, my queer positivity, my psa/awareness on exclusionist fuckery posts, and more. It reduces me and everyone else on that list to a fraction of who we fully are, all for the sake of a sick and twisted argumemt. It takes the opportunity away from us to clear our names, as well, because not only were most if not all of us blocked by OP, but we've been given a stigma to our names. People have been given a contorted, falsified reason to doubt us.
The fact it is only "TMEs" who are being put on this list, as well, despite there being numerous "TMAs" out there who support, use, and talk about transandrophobia, also goes to show you that this is a deliberate attack on transmascs and trans men. This isn't just transandrophobia anymore - this is transphobia, full stop.
Even if you don't BELIEVE in or support transandrophobia, at least think about for a second how fucked up it is that so many transmasc, non-binary, and trans men are being targeted specifically. If trans men and transmascs "only" experience transphobia, then you should be able to see that this IS a moment of transphobia. It's a directed attack, and a messy one at that.
I've seen at least two "edits/updates" made to that blocklist, with OP saying that shey mistakingly added some people who "no longer associate with these circles". This just shows that this person put little to no actual research into this blocklist. Chances are that shey just stalked through the transandrophobia tag, blogs, AND notes, and just slapped people's names on the list without a second thought.
Shey has also gotten an anon that not only brought into questioning the identity of a trans woman blogger, but also insinuated that she is secretly and ACTUALLY just a sock puppet of another transmasc blogger. The anon's proof? "They talk to each other a lot and type similarly"
This whole situation is just blatant transphobia, specifically transandrophobia, but also with some hints of transmisogyny too! This blocklist wasn't made to help or protect anyone. This blocklist was made to hurt, isolate, and hinder people.
Listen to us. Listen to transmascs and trans men. ACTUALLY listen to us, even if you feel our words and lived experiences go against your own beliefs or expectations. Stop blindly following blocklists and call out posts like this, because all it does is enable abusers, and silence the victims.
Do your own research. Think for yourself. Do not be guilted or pressured into blind obedience.
And to anyone seeing this who is new and has started to accept transandrophobia as a term and an experience: thank you. Thank you for believing in us. Thank you for allowing us a word to have this. Thank you for listening to us. Just...thank you.
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