#specifically i made this because i was thinking of mspec lesbians and gays but it is for anyone

[andromedasea]

happy pride to people with ‘contradicting’ identities i love you and you’re doing it right

[neopronouns]

Hi! Do you know of a term that is a umbrella term for *all* identities considered “contradictory”(like mspec lesbians, lesboys, etc), and if not, could you potentially make one? Thanks!

i couldn't find one, so here's one!

subtliden: an umbrella term for identities such as mspec lesbian/veldian/gay/straight/etc., gaybian/velaurian, lesboy/turigirl, mesque, cistrans/transcis, transmasculine girl/transfeminine boy, and more; essentially a replacement/alternate term for 'contradictory labels'

[pt: subtliden: an umbrella term for identities such as mspec lesbian/veldian/gay/straight/etc., gaybian/velaurian, lesboy/turigirl, mesque, cistrans/transcis, transmasculine girl/transfeminine boy, and more; essentially a replacement/alternate term for 'contradictory labels'. end pt]

the term comes from 'subtle' and 'identity', since these terms all describe identities that have subtleties that not everyone will understand.

as a community we adopted the word 'contradictory' for our identities, which (to my knowledge) was first used for us by exclusionists, but not all of us feel that our identities oppose one another. for example, i'm attracted to men and various nonbinary genders as a genderqueer man, and i choose to acknowledge both my veldian identity and my mspec identity - i don't feel my identity is contradictory, it's just specific and subtle!

(quick addition: this term is still 100% inclusive of those who do feel their identities contradict, it's just meant to be a more general term that doesn't alienate those who don't!)

i didn't make a flag because i honestly don't know how to encapsulate all subtlidens in one flag; i think someone else made a contradictory labels flag that one could use, but i can't find it at the moment

[velvetvexations]

There's this intuitive feeling around mpsec orientations that are like, "but that's just not what the word means!", but if you really dig in the issue is that orientations don't really make a lot of sense conceptually because they're inherently tied to binary sex.

For instance, I'm a trans woman. Yet, until I get my tits, anyway, if I'm not wearing a big red bow like Ms. Pac-Man it would be completely impossible to guess that just from looking at me. Because trans women are women, a lesbian could date me and keep her lesbian card, at least among trans positive crowds.

For TERFs, this sounds like a win at first, like I'm pointing out a way in which being trans doesn't make sense because if a lesbian is into someone who looks exactly like a cis man she can't be a lesbian, right? Except...cis lesbians have been made fun of, harassed, and terrorized for their masculinity as far back as can be remembered. Even straight women have been put through the ringer if they don't look feminine enough - I will, for the millionth time, point to Chyna - but among lesbians specifically there have been countless women who could plausibly pass for men if they put just a little bit of effort into it, and many did because being butch as hell is something to be celebrated even if they didn't frame their far-end-of-the-scale butchness as wanting to "pass for men". They could have.

So in both cases, trans or cis, being attracted to a woman who is identical to society's idea of a man is not a disqualifier from being a lesbian. "Political" or "mspec" lesbianism, identifying with lesbianism for a reason other than definitionally being attracted solely to people who identify as women, is the only way the idea of being a lesbian makes sense. It's the only way being gay or straight makes sense. Because gender is so arbitrary, there's no way to make it work unless you're willing to enforce a strict binary that very few queer people want.

Like if you think girls can/should only have soft delicate features and wear lipstick and dresses, fine, I guess it's logically consistent to say being a lesbian is physical attraction to a fixed, limited set of features. But if you're willing to broaden your horizons to any extent, what being attracted to a woman means quickly breaks down. A TERF would say it's physical sex that matters and something something AMAB vaginas aren't the same but I'd like to take a Kinsey Detector and scan a lesbian who loves getting strapped by a hyper-masculine butch to see where she lands.

So there are all these situations where we say "still a lesbian", even though logically the people who are into those girls should be plenty capable of being attracted other people. To bring it back to the trans point of view, I don't really understand how a lesbian could be attracted to me and then turn around and say lesbianism is based purely on what gender you're attracted to, while some would be viciously mean to her and accuse her of transphobia (which I would hate) if she weren't into me. Because what if, hypothetically, I woke up tomorrow and said "you know, I think I'm feeling more comfortable thinking of myself as a man these days " - that changes everything over night? That lesbian is no longer attracted to me when I change my pronouns? What if I had already been thinking that and I just didn't say anything about it, was she attracted to a man for a brief period of time?

Gender and how we classify attraction is just very, very arbitrary. Gender abolitionists see trans people as reinforcing gender, but I've always said that if they thought about it for two seconds they'd realize trans people are a deathblow to everything they hate about gender. They can't separate gender from sex so they see it as trans people wanting every girl who's not traditionally feminine to be boys and every boy who's not traditionally masculine to be women.

And, well, that's one reason I hate egg shit because yeah that is actually kinna doing that. It's at least reinforcing pink=girl mentality. Like to be clear, I'm not saying you can't associate girlhood with the color pink, I just think that when a cis man likes the color pink and you go "have you tried estrogen?" you're not just associating the two concepts but actively backing up the societal expectation that to like pink is to be a girl. It's like the difference between associating candy canes with Christmas and being convinced it's somehow already December again when you see peppermints being sold in the middle of March.

But other than that, which I've gone on the record against over and over, trans people are smashing society's concept of gender into pieces. "Orientation" as traditionally thought of must naturally also come down because it rests atop that foundation.

[midnight-fox-boy]

I made a post about labels being as useful/important as you make them and I want to branch off of that to specifically talk about the m-spec umbrella.

A lot of discourse exists over this but aside from that, I know a lot of people have struggled with not knowing exactly where they sit on that spectrum, when they have imposter syndrome with the label(s) they have chosen, dealing with being invalidated, etc. so heres some validation:

You're not inherently transphobic/enbyphobic for identifying as bisexual. Maybe it's just the term that's felt comfortable for so long and that's chill. Maybe you like it because it's a bit more vague than some other labels, maybe you use one of the lesser "known" definitions of bi even if it's a long standing one (i.e. attraction to the same gender as yourself and other genders), or maybe it's just the label you vibe with and the specific reason doesn't really matter!

Pansexuality doesn't mean you can't occasionally crave interactions (romantic/sexual/sensual) with people of specific genders! If your version of pansexuality is attraction regardless of gender, that doesn't mean that occasional drifts from your norm/usual magically means you have to change your label.

Omnisexuality isn't the exact same as pansexual and I know a lot of y'all are tired of hearing that it is. Overlap certainly exists and many people could identify as one or the other, but that's true for so many labels on different spectrums.

To my polysexuals, I too am frustrated with the constant correlation to polyamory (people think they're the same thing). I don't even identify as polysexual and I feel that pain.

You're still homo/heteroflexible even if you're dating one of your exceptions/rare cases of attraction to someone of that gender. You don't have to drop this label if it makes you happy and brings you comfort. Your sexuality is not invalidated by the person(s) you are dating.

M-spec gays/lesbians are so valid and boiling sexuality down to 100% strict AF labels is harmful. There's so many reasons one may identify as such, and regardless of your reasons, it's not any stranger's business.

Abrosexuals (who consider themselves/their label mspec) aren't confused. You're not doing anything wrong by acknowledging your sexuality is fluid and embracing that.

The multisexual umbrella is such a diverse and expensive spectrum that trying to reduce people down to one strict definition of being attracted to multiple genders is silly. Sexuality as a whole is a very complicated thing and can be experienced in so many ways. Sometimes something is just too vague for you personally, or even too specific, and that's chill. Whatever label or lackthereof makes you happy is the right choice.

[batpoisonz]

what are all the flags in your intro? :D /genq

I LOVE ANSWERING THESE TY FOR ASKING I will go in order for u and go in as much depth as I can!!

good faith 4 good faith

made by @stainedlenses! I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that it is for people who support good faith identities and would prefer to be partners with somebody else who is also a good faith supporter :3c (as in supporting all good faith identities such as mspec lesbians)

masculine-identified feminine-aligned cross-aligned flag

I made this one! it's for anybody who identifies as cross aligned and identifies as a masculine gender, but aligns with a feminine gender. for example im transfemmasc intersex and I identify as a man, but im aligned with any fiaspec genders (I think that's the right term).

transfem flag

also made by me! originally this was just supposed to be an "intersex transfem" flag but because the transfem community doesn't ENTIRELY have a flag we have agreed on (same with the transmasc community) I wanted to make it for just anybody who is transfem of any variant. I was also really exclusionary when I made it and decided on the flag with votes so I want to repurpose it for people who aren't exclusionary.

I know we have the pink and blue transfem and transmasc flags but as an intersex person I just wanted to stay away from them bc of all the discourse and potential false information cuz idk who to trust atp.

turigirl flag

idk who made this but basically for any turian/veldian/gay person who identifies as a girl in some way! it's the counterpart for lesboy!

inclusive dawn lesbian flag

made by @redtail-lol! imo it's really pretty, but basically I'm using it in place of the mainstream/sunset lesbian flag bc 1.) it was made by a bi lesbian 2.) it was made by somebody who is inclusive 3.) it isn't 2 flags smashed together so it has originality (which taking inspo is fine, u can have originality while taking inspo but the sunset flag didn't have that), and more! these are all reasons to use the dawn flag over using the sunset flag, in my personal preference. u don't have to use it!

lesboy flag

counterpart to turigirl, for anybody who identifies as a lesbian and a boy in some way!

lunian lesbian flag (idk why this one is smaller)

for lesbians who want to specify they're mspec without an mspec label/for lesbians who want to include lesbians of all genders!

intertransfluid

for anybody who is intersex and cannot specifically pinpoint what their gender is due to having a unique connection to gender/feels like no current terms completely match their gender or one of their genders/is fluid around what terms they use due to not knowing which one fits best. I also made this flag and coined the term!

7 stripe Sappho lesbian flag

made by @thepokedexisgay! for anybody who is a lesbian and wants to use the Sappho flag or this one I believe!! I use it instead of the mainstream one as well bc it's more inclusive and doesn't have connections to any sort of bigotry or racism. nor does it include any part of the lipstick flag which I am uncomfortable with

I think that's all of them! I hope this helps you!

[amaterasu-corporation]

Amaterasu Corporation Rainbow Capitalism (Heartwarming)

Siema I'm Feliks and you're on my blog. He/him or it/its if you really want to refer to me. Very queer, disabled, disordered and plural. I post mdarc icons on here. Anyone can use any of them, credit appreciated but not required, I'll know you when I see you.

I default to square icons, so let me know if you want a circular one. Can safely put a max of 6 flags in one icon, you can ask for more if you want but it'll probably look weird. I'll probably finish your request faster if you ask for 3 characters or less within one ask, if you want you can spread these out across multiple asks it will make my sad sad life easier.

Oh and also note. Please clarify if you mean "gay" as in the rainbow flag or the blue-green gay flag, if you won't then I'll just default to the blue-and-green flag. If there are multiple versions of the same flag then I'll just default to the one I think is most common, if you want a specific one in that case then please specify or link it / mention the coiner if it's a very obscure one that I won't be able to easily find.

Request rules or something:

What I'll do:

Most pride flags, all good faith identities including ones you feel are "contradictory" like mspec monos (ex. bi lesbians, or pan gays), straight lesbians/gays as well as gaybians/lesbigays, lesboys and turigirls, honeybee transfems and coffee bean transmascs, as well as xenogenders (though if it's lesser known, then either specify who made the flag or link it to me cause I'm probably gonna have a hard time finding it otherwise) and neopronoun flags;

Tertiary attraction and atertiary flags;

Otherkin and alterhuman flags (including transspecies), but if it's more specific than just the general ones, then you'll probably have to specify just like with xenogenders;

Disability and neurodivergency (including plurality) flags, advised to also specify or else I'll just use the one I see the most;

Rabies pride, because this is what it actually means;

Objectum flags;

If you aren't sure if I'd do anything that's currently listed on here then you can always send in an ask.

What I won't do:

Kink and/or NSFW flags;

Agere flags;

Country flags;

Sapio/morosexual flags;

Paraphilia flags, I want to specify I have nothing against any paraphiles as I don't believe in thought crimes, I just don't really feel like doing them just like the ones listed above;

Radqueer flags (please grow and change as a person);

Any bad faith and/or deliberately exclusionary flags.

No DNI, no bringing up any discourse (queer discourse especially, but applies to shipcourse or syscourse as well), no arguining and being rude to anybody, being nice to me is mandatory. Don't ask me to tag queer as ''q slur''.

[redtail-coins]

Hi guys I'm redtail

You probably know me from my main @redtail-lol where I used to coin

Well things got messy so I made a new blog! I am sorta moving my terms and creating new ones here too.

Sometimes I create terms and sometimes I will do requests. If you want to request, here are the request rules:

I WILL do:

- Genders

- Including xenogenders, regardless of how hyperspecific

- Orientations

- Aspec terms

- Combo terms

- Terms with relation to neurological conditions like autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, personality disorders, etc.

GRAY AREA!! I will not coin these, but on request I will SHARE them or provide help with a flag. The reason I don't do these is mostly because it's groups I'm not part of (or culturally reconnected to in context of indigenous terms). Not because I have any opposition to them.

- POC specific terms

- Cultural terms

- Indigenous specific terms

- Intersex terms

- System terms

- Slurs that I can't reclaim

- Physical disability terms

I WILL NOT COIN THESE OR SHARE THEM

- MUDs. Disorders are not labels you can coin. There is research that goes into them.

- Radqueer terms. Fuck PRATs.

- TransIDs. While some might be nonharmful, I don't want any association with the radqueer community

- Arissomei, dissodic, or desirdae terms. Some have delved into being just as bad as transids, and while I support some arisso terms, I don't like the direction they go in and I would rather not.

- Paraphilia flags. Even if you're non offending or non harmful I would just rather not. No offense.

- Kink flags. Personal discomfort.

- Hate flags. No "anti 'mspec lesbians' lesbian flag" or "anti turigirl gay" or even stuff I agree with, "anti radqueer xenogender." I do not do hate flags.

- Anything relating to syscourse. Not only am I a singlet but watching it from the outside is like watching 2 trains derail into each other.

- neoAGABs. I don't know enough to really take a side on if they're good faith ways to dodge telling people your AGAB, good faith terms for systems, or bad faith and treating an event like an identity.

- Terms I personally disagree with. I'll privately answer any requests I disagree with, with "no I will not be doing that."

- Replacement flags for creators I think are in the right (think pan and aroace flag discourse)

If you coin anything that relates to my coins, that's okay but TAG ME!!! I wanna see it. And if I have a tag for the system I created (like the infra ultra series) I'd appreciate you use it too!!

[isobug]

I've talked about it at length in this post before, but I do want to bring up two specific instances of this new policy being actively harmful to trans and mspec people re: warnings which makes me view it more harshly

( EDIT ) Also regarding the "slippery slope" of adding in things like "voting history", that shouldn't be an issue as long as there's a simple guideline about keeping things relevant. You could even use those exact examples as guidelines for what isn't acceptable or needed in a warning.

Putting it under the cut but tw for transmisogyny/transphobia/queerphobia/exclusionism and examples/discussion of these things

I was trying to make an edit to the pages featuring a certain Gay Man's flag (specifically the Uranian page first), made by one Val/entin Bely/aev, to potentially warn others (but especially other transfems) that Valentin is Transmisogynistic/Transphobic and his accounts are not safe for Transfems/Trans gays. This edit was rejected under this new policy.

I specifically cited his twitter accounts and certain tweets. He has other accounts and has made similar statements on those. It's not very hard to find

(the last one is a little less clear out of the context of his whole account but he genuinely seems to insist that all of the the trans-inclusive gay men flags are "trans-exclusive/exclude cis gays" and frequently bashes on them.)

I hope I don't have to explain why his narrative of "GNC men are wrongfully transitioning/becoming transfem because people hate men" is Transmisogynistic and why "there's no point in being proud of being queer" is Queerphobia.

(Plus, having a flag exclusively for "homosexual men" as The Uranian Flag on the wiki is misrepresentative of the history and scope of Uranians/Urnings. Despite how Valentin uses it, it does describe a a varying set of gender and sexual identities. I'd really think the LGBTA page needs to be closer to the Nonbinary Wiki's Uranian page in scope. Not to mention that there's no page or even mention of Urningin/Urninde which is a shame.)

The second example is a rejected edit to the Junian (Exclusive) page. Junian is a sibling term to Oshian and Erosian, both of which were coined by exclusionists to be exclusionary terms (this is cited on both pages with sources) and are explicitly anti-mspec Lesbians/Gays. These accounts are also not safe to browse for those trying to avoid exclusionist/queerphobic content.

Junian was coined by the same person who made Erosian and is equally exclusionary, yet my edit to the Junian page that simply added the same information that was present on the Erosian page was rejected under this new policy.

Erosian info and it's cited resource

Junian info (there are no cited resources on the page + even less context about why the term was made)

Citeable exclusionism being ignored aside, this also just makes the Junian page terrible in contrast with the Erosian and Oshian pages. I should not have to go to a different, older page for it's sibling term made by the same person to get the actual background for why they were made (and if those reasons were even correct).

Sorry for rambling. I'm not sure how to wrap up my thoughts on this other than repeating the tags on my original post about it

"I cannot tell you how much LESS USEFUL this makes the wiki... and actually if someone is citing a person saying openly 'i hate this marginalized group' it's not 'personal interpretation'. it's just exclusionism and bigotry'"

Let's talk about term sourcing.

So a few months ago, the LGBTA wiki announced a revision of its policy on declaring an author's personal biases in its references. This..... didn't go down well, and I went ahead and brought it up with Jeb the same day to figure out exactly what xe was thinking and why this policy was announced. The conversation summarises to something like this:

We don't want to call people exclusionist on the wiki because it means we're making the wiki biased

Exclusionist could be used to mean lots of different things so we don't want to use it at all

Slippery slope: If we say a creator didn't like trans people, we could end up adding warnings about a creator's political alignment, voting history and favourite colour of underwear.

At that point it was gone midnight with a pretty stressful day lined up for me the next day, so I decided to leave it there and get back to it later. In very typical fashion I then forgot to get back to it later, until now, when I can actually talk to the users of tumblr about this.

So, I'd like to discuss a possible different solution for this policy. I understand the community on Tumblr doesn't like it, and quite frankly, I'm not a fan either. There are a lot of pros and cons with this policy, so lemme list them out, starting with the pros:

The wiki is supposed to be a source of information, not a source of personal opinion

Different users have different views and understandings of of phobia

As a wiki, it shouldn't be biased

There's probably a few more, but I can't think of too many currently. On the other hand, the cons:

If a user wants to read more about the term, they don't know if (eg.) the tumblr blog they're about to open is phobic. So any further reading from the wiki is a big leap of faith.

We literally have a list of identities that we recognise as good faith, and so it shouldn't be too hard to warn if a source is against these.

We also have a ban on queerphobia, ableism, racism, exclusionism and abuse on the wiki itself.

And I'll leave that at three as well, just to be fair.

So what do we make of this over here? I'd be curious to hear Tumblr's feedback, and anything that I think is really good (from either side of the debate) I'll probably bring up with Jeb in a couple days.

[punkitt-is-here]

idk i thought the reason ppl identified as bi lesbians or mspec lesbians was due to the fact that they didnt see it as lesbian to date nonbinary people

this is the first anon and sorry for my weird takes im just confused

bc it honestly just feels like instead of bi/pan/omni folks using sapphic/queer/neptunic/etc to describe themselves, they're using something that has at least at *some* point i think meant an exclusive attraction to women/nonbinary ppl/etc. but if not you can correct me ofc

i guess the issue i have is that there are no other terms i know of to describe exclusive liking of women or nb peeps

Honestly here's my thing. The sooner you can accept that labels for sexual identities hold no intrinsic power and are much more like names or clothing or haircuts in that they are ways to express and define yourself then the sooner you will understand why people who have lived outside the cishet binary understanding of sexuality and gender want to play with the intrinsically more flexible nature of being queer. Any and all queer discourse over labels immediately becomes redundant when you understand that 99% of the time the labels will have literally zero affect on how you interact with someone irl. If some people want lesbian to mean exclusively women attracted to women, I get it. But the thing is you're gonna run into lesbians who don't define it that way and there's no way to decide what's the "definitive" take on the word because the end goal of all self-made identities is to label yourself in a way that makes you happy. If it makes you unhappy to identify exclusively as a lesbian, why do it? If it makes you unhappy to identify as bisexual, why do it? If it makes you HAPPY to identify as a bi lesbian and it is literally hurting no one? Why NOT do it? The English language is only trying to get decent approximations of the idea expressed by queerness and these labels were never going to be rigidly defined terms. After all, if we wanted to put all queer people in little clearly defined boxes, we'd just be making CisHet 2. Let yourself live free and realize that fretting over the specifics of how people identify is unneeded stress and jam out with some cool gay people ❤️

[kiruliom]

lunar | solar

eclipse lesbian flags!!

flags I made exclusively to piss off a specific tiktok user who wont even see this, but ended up putting way too much effort on anyway lmao I love them and will use them for oc and hc stuff >:) free to use by anyone btw!!

the different versions have the same meaning, just with a different palette and order, theyre both heavily inspired by the sun and moon lesbian flag so I thought "what happenes when moon and sun aligns?? boom!! an eclipse" and thats where the names come from

[image ID: two flags of 7 horizontal stripes, the first one's colors are from top to bottom, cherry, deep blue, purple, lavender, off-white, tan, copper. the second one's colors are from top to bottom, deep blue, cherry, dead rose, salmon, off white, teal, dark teal. end ID]

tagging: @mogai-sunflowers because I think youd be interested >:)

color meanings:

for lunar

cherry: femme lesbians, fem presenting lesbians

deep blue: butch lesbians, masc presenting lesbians

purple: transmasc lesbians, pnc lesbians, mspec lesbians

lavender: intersectionality, trust within the rest of the queer community and minorities

off-white: rejecting purism, shame, and guilt within the community, dykes, and futches

tan: family, trust within lesbian communities, acceptance towards eachother

copper: transfem lesbians, multigender lesbians, aspec lesbians

for solar

deep blue: butch lesbians, masc presenting lesbians

cherry: femme lesbians, fem presenting lesbians

dead rose: transfem lesbians, multigender lesbians, aspec lesbians

salmon: family, trust within lesbian communities, acceptance towards eachother

off-white: rejecting purism, shame, and guilt within the community, dykes, and futches

teal: intersectionality, trust within the rest of the queer community and minorities

dark teal: transmasc lesbians, pnc lesbians, mspec lesbians

obligatory (/j) sunset lesbian inspired stripe order versions

too tired to make IDs for these ones rn, sorry!!

also I probably wont make gay man versions for this, only because I have no idea what it would look like, if you have any ideas though feel free to make one and tag me in it!!

[image description: a black banner with a white outline, theres smiley faces with their tongues sticking out in every corner, also in white. theres also a small pink splatter from the bottom right corner. the banner reads "please do not reupload unless credited and informed". end ID]

[redtail-lol]

Proper Blog Introduction

Hello, and welcome to Redtail's ramblings and occasional coinings! Enjoy your stay.

Free Help for Palestine - A communal document created by me and editable by everyone for finding free ways to help Palestine! Mostly composed of petitions at the moment. If you can't donate or just want more ways to help Palestine it's very helpful.

About Me and the Blog:

I mostly will be coining orientations instead of genders because there are so many genders and the orientation market is low, and will mostly be coining labels that apply to me. However, I am willing to coin labels that don't apply to me. Please feel free to ask, and if I'm uncomfortable, I will just deny it.

Some posts aren't centered around me coining so sorry for any clutter

I am a perisex bigendermeld girl + enby and I use she/they pronouns

I have a label collection/hoard of 300+ that I loving named The Boxfort Palace. I may start a third blog just for my hoard. Or I may just keep it on the doc

Some of my important identities are asexual (fully, absolutely no sexual attraction), cupiosexual, demiromantic, lunian/mspec lesbian, bi lesbian, poly lesbian, and omni lesbian, and I specifically use full-moon springtide versions of all these labels. I do not identify as an mspec mono because there is nothing monoromantic about my lesbian attraction. I don't have an issue with the mspec mono label existing but I don't think it applies to me.

This blog supports aspec people, xenogenders, mspec gays/lesbians, gaybians, mspec hets, gayhets/straightbians and lesboys/turigirls. I am an mspec lesbian and ace.

This blog is NOT anti-paraphilia. I believe people with genuinely harmful and nonconsensual paras need access to help and support, and aren't inherently evil. I also believe paraphilias that are strange but not harmful or nonconsensual are fine. Do what makes you happy. Pro-contact harmful paraphilias, this is NOT about you. Please seek help and do not abuse.

I am Crit-Inclus and seek to understand people before I fully accept them. If I ask you questions about your identity, I mean no disrespect

I am predominantly white and am not comfortable with making things specifically for any POC because it does not feel like my place. If my blog grows big and people want to use my blog for visibility, post on your own blog and I will reblog it.

Because I am perisex I will not coin intersex specific terms, though you may ask for flag design help and reblogs for visibility

I am autistic and self diagnosed, I haven't updated this in a while but I've given up on not saying I'm autistic without diagnosis a long time ago, lmao. I got 153 on my most recent RAADS-R taking I def have autism

Still anti ABA and anti autism speaks fuck those guys

This blog is anti Boeing we hate Boeing in this household (if you're confused ask me about the 737 MAX I'll go on for hours)

I am a singlet so I'm not gonna do system specific labels. I will reblog system labels upon request

I do NOT coin radqueer identities. Radqueers can request non-radqueer identities because there's no reason to say you can't request something because of a belief. Even if it's harmful it's none of my business I'm the coiner. But I am anti-rq so you choose if you want me making the term

You may ask me to coin anything you would like if it isn't on here. It is my decision if I do it.

I am an adult, but the blog is safe for older minors

People in my DNI are allowed to use my flags and labels. I don't believe in gatekeeping who's allowed to use a term based on personal beliefs and opinions. I just don't wish to have personal interactions with you guys. It's up to you if you want to use flags made by an mspec lesbian who accepts xenogenders, lesboys/turigirls and the like, gaybians, and other complex contradictory identities.

I would appreciate if everyone who follows me can like, reblog, or comment on a post before or shortly after following. This is to make sure I don't follow back porn accounts that won't read this. I might block people who do not follow this rule because I will assume you are a porn account that just wants to send me spam links, especially if you're a blank blog.

Free Palestine. Fuck Isreal.

DNI:

Pedophiles (I'm not calling you MAPs.) Whether you're non-offending or not, please just don't interact with me. I support you guys getting the help you need but as a minor I think it's best we don't interact beyond maybe some likes and a request or two. I'm still too close to being a kid

Anyone who is going to start discourse. I don't care if you're proship, antiship, exclus, radinclus, radqueer, or anything. Don't start discourse. You can only continue discourse that I start. You can use my terms if they apply to you, like my stuff, reblog it, and comment, as long as you aren't starting an argument.

Solicitors looking to promote any sexual services. I am asexual, leave me alone. I don't want your porn. I will bodyshame you.

Anybody looking to e-date. I'm arospec, specifically demiromantic, so approaching me with romantic intent means you'll have to wait for something that'll never happen.

DO NOT FOLLOW:

Queerphobic people

Racists/ALM/Anti-BLM.

Sexists/anti feminists

Radfems (you aren't real feminists, you're misandrists, AND you're misogynists, all at once)

Zionists/Pro-Israel

People who believe in transmisogyny but not transmisandry/transandrophobia

People who believe trans men hold any significant power over cis women or over trans women

Idiots who think only transfems can use the tr slur

People who think femboy is a slur or is about transfems. There is a 0% difference between calling a transfem a femboy and calling a transfem a boy. Femboy is an identity. It's entitled to think trans women can dictate what men identify as based on the bigotrd actions of others weaponizing gnc men's identities to misgender others.

Exclusionists (including mspec lesbian/gay/enbian exclus, lesboy and turigirl exclus, and gaybian exclus.)

Incels of any type. This doesn't refer to anybody who just hasn't lost their virginity yet, but specifically the kind of people who hold it against the people they're attracted to. This is usually straight men and incels are often a misogynistic hate group.

Radqueer/transx/transid and supporters

Pro-contact or Comp-contact Big 3 Paras

Anti-contact non-harmful, consensual paras

Pro-AI art

Proship/profic

NSFW blogs

Anyone in the DNI

I follow people back blindly so please don't follow me if I'm going to have to see gross things on the feed.

[redheadbigshoes]

i wish more people who support the concept or bi or m-spec lesbians would stop and consider just for a moment WHY lesbians might be so upset about people implying or outright saying that we can like men. these people (and people in general tbh) seem to think we're only oppressed for liking women, when, personally, i've faced way more hostility, aggression, and weaponized "ignorance" over the fact that i do not like men. (before anyone twists my words, i'm NOT saying lesbians have it worse than bi women/nonbinary people, because they also experience a unique axis of oppression that lesbians don't by being attracted to all genders. our experiences overlap, but they are different, and it's okay for both parties to talk about that)

growing up, i was terrified of the concepts of marriage, sex, romance, and love since everyone around me only spoke of my future experiences with these things under the rigid assumption that my partner would be a man. i tried telling them i'd rather be single forever (i had yet to realize i was "allowed" to be gay), and they always insisted that i would grow up and change my mind, which made me even more terrified. they presented partnership with a man as something that was an inevitable, unavoidable part of my future. i'm lucky to have had a (mostly) supportive environment when i finally discovered that i felt this way because i'm a lesbian, and i can happily say i'm no longer afraid of those things since i now know i can have them without a man, but holy shit, do people not get how traumatizing that is? to be a young person only able to concieve of love as a weapon to be wielded against you?

lesbophobia from cishet people is one thing, but when it's coming from my fellow lgbt people, who i come to for love, support, protection, and companionship after being isolated in my daily life as a result of my lesbianism (and being autistic and gnc), it's just ... unspeakably cruel. i don't think most or them fully realize what they're doing - i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say most of them are just young people that believe they're doing the right thing - but that doesn't excuse this level of violence, especially with how quickly the notion has become popular. they should know better.

also like. not to mention how fast they'll throw trans women and trans lesbians under the bus to dunk on "mono" lesbians but that's another conversation.

A lot of them don’t want to think for a few seconds why we’re so upset about it. They don’t want to recognize and accept our lack of attraction to men because a lot of them are misogynistic, they don’t think there’s people out there who are not attracted to men. It’s not a coincidence that “mspec lesbian” supporters are most likely the same ones saying everyone is bi.

This is what happens with every type of prejudice. People who don’t experience certain thing are less likely to sympathize with people who do face that. Therefore they think we’re exaggerating or that it’s not real because they don’t face it. The saddest thing is that other marginalized people should be able to sympathize with other prejudices because they face oppression.

And lesbians suffer a very unique type of oppression because it’s directly connected to both homophobia and misogyny. Just like you said: we’re not trying to say we have it worse than other sapphics, we’re just trying to make people listen to us and take lesbophobia seriously. And what I say might be controversial but from my experience observing other people it does feel like lesbophobia is taken less seriously than other prejudices related to the LGBTQ+ community. Especially because it’s a very ignored and erased oppression since people immediately box us with gays by calling what we face homophobia when sometimes is a way more specific oppression than that.

It’s frustrating because most of queer lesbophobes are also fighting other kinds of oppression, but they’re actively silencing and promoting lesbophobia. A lot of people might not agree with me but I think they deserve all the hate and oppression they get, very hypocritical wanting to stop [insert phobia] while promoting others.

[mogai-sunflowers]

hii can i get an inbox check? cause i submitted something and i wanna know if tumblr ate it or if you just hadn't gotten to it /lh /nm

sure thing :33

a gender that feels like a kitty dragon made of stars

neotransmasc aroace catgender veldian flag

Gender related to sleep, being in a daze, and goats / sheep

fwu/fwus flag

a flag combo with Intersex, MtM, Abinary, Transemphatic, and Plenialic flags

a combo starlamasc + starlafemme flag

a gender related to astronomy and astrology, planets, and zodiac signs

Hacker lesboy flag

Autigender that is connected to special interest in mysteries, detective work and finding answers!

a gender that is kinda connected to mockingbirds and heavily connected to mimicking other people's or characters' quirks, interests or style automatically or intentionally // changing yourself to appear more like the person/character you're interested in

A gender that is strongly connected to fluidity, changing and instability, but it is solid/partially solid/blurred and cannot be called solid or fluid (examples: connection to changing interests; unstable relationships with internet friends; unstable and quirky personality which user fruitlessly tries to grasp) Mainly for neurodivergent(mainly adhd) folks, but not exclusively

Gender related to shades of blue, the moon, and rainy nights

a gender that’s described as being as full and vast as the sea

gender connected to sunflowers, sunlight, joy and brightness like the sun, a dogs unfiltered happiness, a childs laughter

a gender related to stitting in a sunflowerfield and drawing the sunflowers that are standing in the warm summer sunshine

a gender relted to stargazing in a field of flowers while making up your own constellations based of of flowers

ephemeral lexic gender

a femme apollanox

lexegenders for chemical and test

a flag combo of hexboy, voidthing, and agender

an aroace/gaybian/violenatian/genderqueer/agender flag combo

a gender related to being a gaybian, and leaning/fluctuating more into gay or lesbian depending on the specific situation

a gender related to space, flowers, and being a gaybian

a gender about being a demon but don't think of yourself as evil because of memory loss and identity changes

A gender related to Eldritch beings and being a lesboy

A gender related to Eldritch beings and being a turigirl

transfem lesbimasc and transfem turifem flags

a genderfuck dyke flag

a term for having pronouns/names that should only be used by other inclus; a term where you are comfortable being referred to with certain names/pronouns, but only by other inclus

a bigender flag that is lesboy+turigirl

sunflower loveless/loveless omniaspec flag

a flag for non-mspec gaybians

a gender that is related to eldritch ghosts, eldritch vampires, eldritch mummies, eldritch werewolves, and eldritch Frankenstein monsters

a gender related to two images of two tumblr post memes (can’t attach them here)

multi gaybian flag

bigender (pangender + agender) flag

an allion related to fanfiction

xenogender related to knitted cat beanies

a gender related to nighttime and darkness, warm but breezy weather, cities and tall buildings in cities, late night walks, and generally feels like a solitary thoughtful walk out in the city at night, in a masculine way

an omniplypan flag

a Transmasc + omnigender+ Genderfluid + nonbinary & an aroace + omni-oriantated + lesboy combo flags

a pupgender + lesbian combo flag

abroromantic +lesbian + Cupioromantic combo flag

a semi- version of teratosexual

sun and moon themed omniaspec flags

[genderstarbucks]

i have a request

xenogender for ppl who r pro stoning mspec lesbian/gays or ppl who believe male lesbians exist, also dawg half of the stuff in ur intro isnt real and just made up so you can feel special just put "I am gay/queer and trans" nobody needs to know that you are an otter attracted to twinks and bears 500+ fetishes n shit , gay ppl didnt die just so you can sit around and say "guyyyyssss ughhh lesbians can be attracted to men!! they can they can!!!" and trans ppl didnt die just so you can say "guys dont see me as a girl pls it makes me sooo uncomfy but im a female ftm woman trans man pussy vagina cunt man BUT DONT CALL ME A WOMAN GIRL PLS PLS DONT USE SHE HER ON ME!!!!!!!! IM JUST A SHEHERWOMAN BOY!!!"

Usually I ignore hate like this but this is so fucking funny to me

Nowhere in my bio does it say I'm a woman you dumbass LMFAO, it says I'm female, which is different than a woman

Saying I'm just gay and trans does not explain the entirety of my experience, I can use whatever fucking labels I want to describe myself whether you like it or not you wet sock

"That's not real it's made up", yeah all words are you fucking idiot

The fact that you would stone people based on an identity that literally doesn't affect your tiny brain at all says a lot about you

YOU'RE the one who's disrespecting the trans people who have died to transphobia by caring so much about the fact that this is how I experience my transness

I think they'd be proud of the fact that me and so many others are reclaiming slurs that have been used against us

Have you ever even heard of cistrans people? Probably not considering your brain implodes at the thought of male lesbians

Also where the fuck are the "fetishes" in my bio you're speaking of? Those are just my dating preferences fuckface, what? Are you mad that you don't fit those preferences? You're just mad you can't be with me because I'm so great

You are actually so fucking stupid it's funny, you think I actually care about your opinion?

Mspec gays, lesbians and straights will and have always existed, no matter what your tiny brain thinks

Lesboys and turigirls still exist too you idiot

Oh boo hoo a butch lesbian is calling themselves a lesboy, and you're getting offended over that? That's really fucking pathetic

Gay and trans people died for my and other weird queer people's rights, and the rights for us to identify however we want

R you rlly gonna support xenogenders but not other niche queer identities? Stupid ass

Nobody ever said all lesbians like men or that lesbians have to like men, lesbians only like men if they're attracted to men while also calling themselves a lesbian you dumbass

Irl literally nobody cares if you identify as an mspec gay or lesboy, it's people like you who keep pulling this stupid discourse back up WHEN LITERALLY NOBODY CARES

It's not affecting you assfuck

I'm pro stoning people who are like you, specifically with big boulders

[a-quilted-milky-way]

hello and welcome to my gender blog!

[pt: hello and welcome to my gender blog! end pt.]

hi! we're the quilt collective and this is our gender coining blog! we are a polyfrag system of over a hundred, we collectively use they/them pronouns but if you're talking to someone in specific you should probably ask them. we're all mentally ill in a variety of ways + autistic + adhd-ey

request status: open

[pt: request status: open. end pt.]

tags:

-> a quilted starry sky ミ⛦ into the pile : terms/flags made by other people

-> hope you enjoy .✫*ﾟ✫*. quilt's coining : terms by me

-> other stars in the sky ⛧⌒⛦⌒⛧ saved for ___ : terms i am saving for a headmate (though as all terms are for a headmate somewhere down the line i might not always tag this)

-> in your eyes i see the stars ☆.⁠*⁠･⁠｡ icons: icon making

-> the heart of a supernova ✫⌒*･ﾟ✲ aldernic terms: for aldernic terms (see above, i might not always tag these)

-> thank you for asking ˚₊‧꒰ა ☆ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ requests: requests

note: i reserve the right reject requests without explanation, also if i don't get around to an ask, i might just be busy (i am just a busy guy)

dni and banner/edit credits and id under cut

please don’t interact if you’re:

- anti xenogender/mogai, obvs i am a xenogender blog so really. just don’t.

- against mspec lesbians/gays or lesboys/turigirls as many of our members are mspec monos and our host is a lesboy

- planning to start discourse in any way (telling me if something is unintentionally offensive or if i accidentally recoin something is not included under this btw)

- racist/transphobic/sexist/antisemetic/homophobic/ other basic dni stuff

- anti endo. i think that endogenic systems are valid and cool and even if i don't understand entirely everything i feel as though anti endo people tend to be very mean and all that

- nsfw account, as i am a minor (also like. if you have minors dni on your stuff? cause i am. a minor. like idk what to tell you)

- involved in shipcourse, ship incest or pedophilia, or whatever. idk. just leave me alone

- anti agere/petre

- transid

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[letterfromajax]

Please block @vaestra for being lesbophobic, biphobic, and transphobic

Please note that this person is neither a lesbian or bisexual from what I can tell based off their about. I am also assuming they are TME.

All of their sideblogs will be listed at the very end. All proof will be under the cut and will have the text transcribed to the best of my ability.

The biggest thing that made me make this post is that this person supports bi/pan lesbians and one of the posts he has floating around is literally just his quiet support for bi/pan lesbians. The post in question is the first one listed under the cut.

The bi/pan lesbian label is inherently transphobic because it excludes nonbinary identities from lesbianism, even though nonbinary lesbians exist. I am not a lesbian, so I don’t feel entirely comfortable discussing why it’s lesbophobic beyond the fact that lesbians cannot be bi/pan because they’re lesbians and vice versa.

I commented on this specific post telling him that the post could be taken out of context as support for Bi/Pan lesbians.

Transcribed Text

crescairis: i get that people are more comfortable with defined rules and structure but i also think q*eer people lost when they started resorting to dictionary definitions for what labels mean

crescairis: the q*eer umbrella is meant to deviate from the norm of rigid boxes and definitions and to decide that lesbian means Only this, bi means Only this, etc, is directly contradicting what q*eer means. each and every label is going to have a unique meaning to the person using it and that is how it’s supposed to be. if you’re not comfortable with that…sorry?

My aforementioned comment has since been deleted, but this was the response I received from him.

Transcribed Text

vaestra said: @childescatgirl actually it WAS my intention and you are the exact kind of person this post is talking about! go the fuck away!

Some more lesbophobia and transphobia taken from his about and DNI

Note: The first link provided was locked behind a paywall, the second link provided was written by a cis person, and the third one minimized transmisogony. The fourth link provided is a tumblr post…

Transcribed Text

We acknowledge that transmascs are affected by TERF ideology, as well as the existence of transmisandry. (Some very good articles on the subject: [#1.] [#2.] [#3.]

We acknowledge that the terms femme and butch are open to all q*eer people; [here’s why.]

Their DNI

I’m not a lesbian and I am TME, but TERF ideology mainly targets transwomen. Yes, other trans and even cis individuals can be impacted by TERFs and their ideology, but it’s specifically harmful towards transwomen and to detract from that and focus so heavily on transmascs individuals being harmed by TERF ideology is just a little weird imo. It’s up to you whether you think that’s a bad thing, but I included it because I myself am transmasc and it just feels weird.

The next transcription is only partial and I’m going to censor part of it because the words used make me uncomfortable. I will make the censored parts with brackets.

Transcribed Text

you use the “nonmen loving nonmen” definition of lesbianism, and/or you don’t believe in [lesbian boys]/gaygirls and or mspec lesbians/gays

you think q*eer is a slur that shouldn’t be reclaimed (any personal discomfort with being called q*eer will be respected)

you don’t think transmisandry exists, you don’t think transmascs are harmed by terf ideology, and/or you think the discussion of transmisandry is inherentky transmisogynistic

you think the terms butch and femme are for lesbians only (they aren’t)

This User’s Side Blogs Include

@/contaiuolo

@/crescairis (this was the side blog that the post was originally posted on)

@/fuckvriska

@/daylightsanctum

I’ll say it here again too, but I am trans and bisexual.

EDIT; I didn’t know butch and femme could be used by people other than lesbians. Thank you to everybody who corrected me. I’ll admit I didn’t bother reading the link attached to it because it was a tumblr post. I assumed this person genuinely meant like anybody could use them including like men. Which, unfortunately, is a take I’ve seen… 😬 my bad